the issue is it is always going to be subjective. If the community votes, community favourites like Uthermal have the advantage, if judges vote, people may disagree with the decision
@@sevenpolar3483 I mean that's true of lots of sports, such as gymnastics, figure skating, diving, and fencing (for tied hits), doesn't make the addition a bad idea just means that some of the time people won't agree with the results.
Yeah I think he needed one overlord and one dropperlord. Get a queen and a few drones in there to spread creep and build spine crawlers. Get the dropperlord to go back and pick up a few more drones and some units. His biggest issue was the creep spread once spine crawlsers needed to move. I like the idea.
The biggest advantage of the nydus network is being able to move units super quickly across the map. What should have been done is that the nydus should be behind the crawlers, so that you can swarm out any zerg units at the base into the opponent's while any unit trying to kill said nydus will just end up dying due to being focus fired by the crawlers. My opinion at least
@@olegoleg258 I agree I had no idea why he didn't place the nydus way sooner, and further back. For some unknown reason he let all those spines finish and then chucked the nydus wayy far ahead so the other guy could see it
I love how quickly Mixu noped out of the second match. I mean, a less stubborn player would have probably quit by the time he got swarmed by 7 or 8 Firebats, but the MILISSECOND he saw the BC, he just GG'd and quit.
That's what I was thinking. Lowko made it sound like the vision of the nidus was a feature, not a bug, but if Mixu got even a single transfuse on the nidus, that game may have gone completely differently. The double Thor 100% shut down the barely-made-it-out-the-nidus queen play.
The biggest advantage of the nydus network is being able to move units super quickly across the map. What should have been done is that the nydus should be behind the crawlers, so that you can swarm out any zerg units at the base into the opponent's while any unit trying to kill said nydus will just end up dying due to being focus fired by the crawlers. My opinion at least It almosz worked though! The thrors were unfortunate and shoudlve been scoutet tho
@Tracchofyre It’s a blind counter because thors are great at wrecking those spine crawlers AND they happen to be at HOME ready to defend right when the attack happened. The positioning of units also needs to be taken into consideration, because he blindly defending with those thors AT home.
I'm still laughing my butt off at the first game. You really can't beat uThermal with cheese. It's pretty much ALL he plays these days -- various flavors of cheese challenges on the ladder. One thing you will learn about Thermy when you watch him is he REALLY loves his Planetary Fortress rushes and he absolutely ADORES Thors because both can be repaired very effectively with SCVs. I've never seen any other Terran player who makes as good use of SCVs to perform in-combat repairs as uThermal!
where are your stream highlights? that was my favorite type of videos to watch on youtube. sorry i cant catch your streams but i really did look forward to your highlights here
Mixu could have dropped creep with his overlords while the CC was still in the air. Overloards were in position and lair was done… would have completely blocked the PF
I think a zergling drop would have likely killed uThermal in game1. Alternatively, taking a queen with you during the spine drop would have also been betgter, even though it would have delayed the whole thing a little bit.
I think its so awesome that Lowko keeps mentioning this gold league player Serral or is he Platinum i forget. But he is indeed quite okay at the game, one might even say pretty average.
Mixu built the nydus slightly too far within marcj's vision and he got noticed, so thors had time to destroy it fast. I think he would have won if he had time to bring in more queens.
The idea is very creative. It would hit different if he brings a queen with 6 drones for faster creep or deploys the nydus behind the spines. But I hope Marc picks it up and refines the build in a new "stupid stuff to GM" series :D
@@hivetech4903 I mean, everyone agrees the double Thor 100% shut down queen play, but imagine if the nidus was just a little bit further back, maybe Marc even pulls the army further forward searching for it, and then Mixu nails him right in the main base.
@@hivetech4903 That's another thing I hate about Terrans. Other units are good against what they counter, terrible against everything else. Terrans' are terrific against what they counter, potent against everything else.
Yea let's not pretend zerglings are the answer vs Hellbats that are in their face after dancing a zergling at the factory once it's scouted as it finished.
I love when lowko casts uthermal
I would love to hear uthermal voice from this game... "Oh man this guy is even crazier than me" lol
aaww cmon uThermal we all know that its you , you cheeky bastard xD
@@marcospat91 psycho , he would say psycho xD
We're all just here for the extra Uthermal video
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PF rush into Thor. We don’t need nametags, we know who is playing.
The 500$ bounty for best cheese is the best thing a tournament has added in a while, so many amazing games. Also love to the thermy!
the issue is it is always going to be subjective. If the community votes, community favourites like Uthermal have the advantage, if judges vote, people may disagree with the decision
@@sevenpolar3483 I mean that's true of lots of sports, such as gymnastics, figure skating, diving, and fencing (for tied hits), doesn't make the addition a bad idea just means that some of the time people won't agree with the results.
@@sevenpolar3483 true but as long as the reward is low, it does not matter so much. What matters is the result : a better show to watch !
@@sevenpolar3483true but it's not like it's for the whole tournament. Players and fans will just treat it as a fun thing and nothing more.
Even the preimage of a BC can strike fear into the hearts of Terran's enemies.
I mean, when you have 0 anti-air atm even preimage is scary enough to gg out.
We need halucinated BCs!
That drone drop was incredibly but awkward moving them up
Yeah I think he needed one overlord and one dropperlord. Get a queen and a few drones in there to spread creep and build spine crawlers. Get the dropperlord to go back and pick up a few more drones and some units. His biggest issue was the creep spread once spine crawlsers needed to move.
I like the idea.
Definitely should have taken a queen with him for a creep tumor, even if it was put down a bit later, to provide reliable creep.
Honestly he accidentally had the PERFECT defense. No chance he held that with hellbats.
The biggest advantage of the nydus network is being able to move units super quickly across the map. What should have been done is that the nydus should be behind the crawlers, so that you can swarm out any zerg units at the base into the opponent's while any unit trying to kill said nydus will just end up dying due to being focus fired by the crawlers. My opinion at least
@@olegoleg258 I agree I had no idea why he didn't place the nydus way sooner, and further back. For some unknown reason he let all those spines finish and then chucked the nydus wayy far ahead so the other guy could see it
I officially Like Mixu, that Zergling dance and Lowko's reaction was amazing 😂🎉🤣 That made me literally smile😂
I love how quickly Mixu noped out of the second match.
I mean, a less stubborn player would have probably quit by the time he got swarmed by 7 or 8 Firebats, but the MILISSECOND he saw the BC, he just GG'd and quit.
Lowko casting Uthermal in these tournament settings is simply the most entertaining SC2 out there.
If Mixu brought one queen to make a creep and didn't unborrow those spines, that would of maybe gone sooo much better!
Weighing up the psychological damage of the zergling dance compared to killing the SCV.
7:30 if that nydus was out of vision of the terran it might have gone different for the zerg
That's what I was thinking. Lowko made it sound like the vision of the nidus was a feature, not a bug, but if Mixu got even a single transfuse on the nidus, that game may have gone completely differently. The double Thor 100% shut down the barely-made-it-out-the-nidus queen play.
Ah yes, using OV with spines cheese to counter HB+PF cheese to be countered by Thor cheese, the cheeser out cheeses the other cheeser.
15:05 lmao it was instant 🎉 uthermal is so good
The biggest advantage of the nydus network is being able to move units super quickly across the map. What should have been done is that the nydus should be behind the crawlers, so that you can swarm out any zerg units at the base into the opponent's while any unit trying to kill said nydus will just end up dying due to being focus fired by the crawlers. My opinion at least
It almosz worked though! The thrors were unfortunate and shoudlve been scoutet tho
uThermal games are so intertaining
I see lowko, I see uthermal, I watch
Damn that thumbnail was the most bestest thumbnail that ever did thumbnail!
More Uthermal YEAHHHHHH !!
Lowko casting Uthermal is the ultimate entertainment for me 🥰🥰
Always got time for a uThermal game. The man is the Emperor of Cheese.
Man I want to get Uthermal's reaction to the 8 spine drop
The thor blind counter was something else
it is not blind counter, he always build thor if you watch all the video mark posted on his channel
@@loks117 that's still a blind counter
@Tracchofyre
It’s a blind counter because thors are great at wrecking those spine crawlers AND they happen to be at HOME ready to defend right when the attack happened. The positioning of units also needs to be taken into consideration, because he blindly defending with those thors AT home.
uthermal and lowko are the SC2 youtubers I love to watch
That moment uThermal has done so much cheese he can defend the cheese by instinct xD
Didn't expect those queens to be killed by Thors so fast.
Florencio cast?
One of my favourite sc2 videos I've ever seen
Uthermal you dirty dog. I just finished binging his planetary to gm series and I felt like I could hear his thoughts there even tho I couldn't
I see new video from Lowko - I watch!
Lol, that BC jump in that right GG moment.
Lowko, please do keep your streak of casting the most ridunculous games!
That last move is just like a checkmate with a Queen in Chess
being a huge thermal fan and watcher i knew thermal was comfortable doing his rush but the counter cheese lmao that was neat
I love hearing uThermal games casted
thats the quickest lowko video i think ive ever seen lol
that 1st game omg, SC2 cant get any better😂
I would LOVE to see matches uThermal vs Serral and Byun :)
Ahh the Planetary! Classic uThermal 😂
people are so traumatized after playing uThermal , they are having ptsd symptoms when they are playing him again
What we didn't see in the end: Tanks don't fly, hellions ain't gonna fly, but the factory can fly.
Now I find myself really wanting to buy a Cattlebruiser, lol!
Uthermal is basically just morphing into Has at this point
proxy hellbat into cattlebruiser LOL.
lowko forgot to put the link in the description, althought i've already watched that match
This went so sideways that Thors won a game. Thors! Never thought I'd see the day
What year is it? Spine crawler rush?
The only correct response to a BC at that stage of the game.
That spinecrawlers vs thors looked cursed to me.
Lowthermal or uThowko casting duo when?
"I know, crazy concept!". Laughed out loud! Thanks for your commenting)
BC => instant scoop, warmed my Terran heart
Oh, that was a cool series!! Eager to watch again and hear your comments!! 💣
6:20 *Big daddy thor* 💀
oh its uThermal, ofc its gonna be good!
Bring back "hello everyone my name is Lowko!" intro i miss it😢
that spine rush was about as dumb as hell, i like it, lol
uThermal so funny, I think his on challange mode for fun, but I'm his subscriber lol
I'm still laughing my butt off at the first game.
You really can't beat uThermal with cheese. It's pretty much ALL he plays these days -- various flavors of cheese challenges on the ladder.
One thing you will learn about Thermy when you watch him is he REALLY loves his Planetary Fortress rushes and he absolutely ADORES Thors because both can be repaired very effectively with SCVs. I've never seen any other Terran player who makes as good use of SCVs to perform in-combat repairs as uThermal!
where are your stream highlights? that was my favorite type of videos to watch on youtube. sorry i cant catch your streams but i really did look forward to your highlights here
Mixu could have dropped creep with his overlords while the CC was still in the air. Overloards were in position and lair was done… would have completely blocked the PF
Day17 of begging lowko to cast some Florencio games
Should have brought queen instead of two drones...
When in doubt build a cattelcruiser .
New strategy Drone Drop lol
Great games
I think a zergling drop would have likely killed uThermal in game1. Alternatively, taking a queen with you during the spine drop would have also been betgter, even though it would have delayed the whole thing a little bit.
Dude. No. A couple thors MELT a handful of lings, especially with scv repair lmao. His only chance was mass roach nydus
I think its so awesome that Lowko keeps mentioning this gold league player Serral or is he Platinum i forget. But he is indeed quite okay at the game, one might even say pretty average.
Uthermal, de gekste 💪
Yo he did the newer intro!! Rejoice! I quite like it as well🤪
Day 21 of asking lowko to review/play Dune Spice wars
could terran literally grab their CC at the start of the game to move it elsewhere, confusing their opponent.
uthermal the legend
You cast these uthermal games in the wrong order cuz he already lost in the last video that means he wins this as long as this is not double bracket
Should have loaded a queen in game 1 and drop tumors faster
Do the Uthermal vs players
Spoiler
That instant gg when the cattle bruiser warped in was pretty godamn funny
Mixu saw that bc in the second game and decided to say: nah I ain't got enough firepower to deal with that
Best Cheese is STARCRAFT CHEESE.
cattlebruiser?
What of sick bastard is that?
Come on Lowko! Give us some 60 min videos!!!! :-P
A dub 20min video?! Wtf?! This is gonna be helllllla cheesy!!!
of all people why would you ever try to out cheese uThermal...
Mixu built the nydus slightly too far within marcj's vision and he got noticed, so thors had time to destroy it fast. I think he would have won if he had time to bring in more queens.
The idea is very creative. It would hit different if he brings a queen with 6 drones for faster creep or deploys the nydus behind the spines.
But I hope Marc picks it up and refines the build in a new "stupid stuff to GM" series :D
@@mirastor1796 queens are incredibly powerful but if there's one unit they literally suck against, it's Thors
A Thor can kill a Queen in under 4 seconds. It takes a Queen over a minute to kill a Thor :/
@@hivetech4903 I mean, everyone agrees the double Thor 100% shut down queen play, but imagine if the nidus was just a little bit further back, maybe Marc even pulls the army further forward searching for it, and then Mixu nails him right in the main base.
@@hivetech4903 That's another thing I hate about Terrans. Other units are good against what they counter, terrible against everything else. Terrans' are terrific against what they counter, potent against everything else.
is it me or is mixu the kind of friend who will do something thatll cost him something that could change his life just because its funny
I love uthermal
II'm disappointed @lowko! this is Best of 3 and I only see 2 rounds🙃
f*ck build orders ... thats the starcraft i wanna see !
Marc thrives on the unconventional build order. He's has a very Florencio vibe, but with more tight micro.
thumbs up if youre from uThermal gang 🤘🤘
Mixu won my heart
Terran op ;)
Thermy OP!
BC not really operational l.
Apparently operational enough.
Let's go
Yet again the title signifies the loser
Too one-sided so underwhelming
The 4D chess is too much for this one.
Terran wins the game with the harass push, what a joke of an op race
Yea let's not pretend zerglings are the answer vs Hellbats that are in their face after dancing a zergling at the factory once it's scouted as it finished.
madcuzbad
cheeser geting cheesed lol, never see that coming, 8 drone drop into spine crawler rush lol