@@korihor9161 If you ever catch his stream (or watch his RUclips videos) you can see why he plays like that. He intentionally avoids spreading creep because he "doesn't like it" and often picks purposely sub-optimal strategies to play before the game starts just for the challenge / memes. He sets rules for himself that he can only build specific units, etc. He's just having fun, winning is secondary.
Ive been watching uThermy’s youtube channel and all his builds and cheese challenges are so fun to watch - and he does that while commentating live. One of the top players out there for sure!
19:38 correction. Uthermal infact has a decent economy, so much better than the opponent. You need to change observer layout. Uthermal has 3 base. The gold can mine double a fully saturated base with only 12 drones. Protoss has 52 probes that mines 1 and half base. That's like 5 boys trying to finish a cake with 2 table teaspoon.
Clearly the trick to beat a super grand master starcraft player would be to use bluetooth beads. The kinda beads that only a cavity search would reveal.
i love how lowko calls it a roach hydra army when it was just two leftover roaches with a mass hydra army lol. also the roaches to trick mape into switching off of adepts, and then switch to hydras to anticipate the stalkers was beautiful. you could see mape going for immortals to counter roaches at the end, but then throw down a robotics bay for collosus but it was too late
Uthermal in the first game seemed like he had the build down but wasn't really sure how to execute fully lol. Lings in the base, kinda sat there. Six mutas at minute six, didn't get much damage in. Rip.
I seem to distinctly remember you telling us recently that every Zerg unit that comes out of a cocoon will be healed to full. The dropperlord that transformed itself here did not. @3:10 do we know why?
the strategies and especially the economy that Uthermal plays makes me feel very uncomfy ( probably just out of comfort zone ) which ilove a lot, it is indeed experimental and super cool
lowko i know u use the term "lowko blindness" allot but this went even further then that fair that u miss seeing the upgrade finish but we had multiple times seeing the adeps fight using RED GLAIVES which are the upgraded version o_O
Even if you didn't know anything about uthermal, you can tell easily he isn't a zerg main. No spreading creep, but more importantly tries to play on equal bases, that might work vs randoms on the ladder when smurf account, but it doesn't work vs competent players.
I'm confused as to why you chose this particular series of uThermal's to cast. He makes so many unconventional strategies work, and he's even made mass hydras work on other occasions, but you casted the one series where it didn't really work all that well.
I will never understand why “pros” don’t get spine / spore or canons etc in bases AND no upgrades. Uthermal almost never gets upgrades. Why? 15 hydras with 0/0 that’s just stupid. Even just do 1/1
Hes been playing more of his offrace recently. In this tournament he really wanted to use his hydralisk build, even though he know he will get blind countered hard. Which is why he made those weird transition on the 2nd and 3rd game
Maybe I'm wrong, and I'm happy to admit it if i am. But you seem to be have a sort of bias against zerg these days, seemingly to avoid bias towards them, since theyre your race. But What do I know? I'm just some asshole, lol.
the proper timing of hydra allins is on 50 workers. Considering hydras cost vs adept cost, is 25 cheaper, hydras outscale them the later the game goes. (50 workers gives you crit mass vs everything at that timing) also considering upgrades and (not seen in this game) creep spread. going any lower is just straight up bad. (especially considering teching to vipers is also much easier with higher econ) Also not having double queens is terrible, 0 base defense is terrible, if you lose more then 5 workers vs early unupgraded adepts, you are playing the game wrong. Also very sloppy play of uthermal not having overlords at all spread in that last game. He basically chose to not get the maphacks via pillars. (seeing there was no stargate) The reall reason why hydra allins work vs protoss, is because stargate openers are really really bad versus it, and its basically a mandatory unit in a macro game, how else are you going to get your 3rd up vs mass ling or scout what your opponent does, when everything gets denied by proper unit positioning? Just because adepts are a timing that counters hydra, does not mean hydra allins automatically are forfit. They basically carry anyone who opens stargate. Even going 1 oracle delays your tech by 300 gas intotal. (you do the math how long it takes to get 300 gas with 2 saturated gasses) Added to that, going for a roach timing destroys any adept timing, so if you see someone play adept timings over and over again, all you need to do is cut workers and go mass roach, before the push hits, and your basically guaranteed a free win. You can try to pretend zerg doesnt have broken timings by showing off how good adepts are versus hydras. But if your gonna cast this type of game, your not supposed to be biased and also cast games where ppl cut workers at 50 and go mass roach. (also actually having someone play zerg who mains zerg is basically a must aswell if you want to be unbiased). But i guess this was just a video proving adepts kill hydras?
Omfg the guy winning didnt end the game, so now I'll make a 47 min video over a match that is decided within 4 mins, but yakniw, i need views and shit games with darks name in hit hardddd. Even if theresbtrash with me yelling these games suck over the top
After all those grand-grand-master games for the past few days, the grand master game here feels like a viewer submitted game
UThermal spreads creep like a true Terran main
Yes! I love watching uThermal. He's so entertaining in his play style.
The best part of this replay was if you watch it from uThermal's POV he's intentionally doing a Hydralisk cheese all 3 games against Maple
Uthermal Is Just a seal clubbing clown... 2 bases by minute 10 with no creep spread?!
He's originally a Terran main from what I can remember. So you cant expect someone who doesnt really main Zerg to be perfect with everything.
@@korihor9161 If you ever catch his stream (or watch his RUclips videos) you can see why he plays like that. He intentionally avoids spreading creep because he "doesn't like it" and often picks purposely sub-optimal strategies to play before the game starts just for the challenge / memes. He sets rules for himself that he can only build specific units, etc. He's just having fun, winning is secondary.
@@korihor9161 🤡
16:20 Actually, uThermal did voice that a dark Templar attack was likely, thus he he made an overseer. It was no accident.
Ive been watching uThermy’s youtube channel and all his builds and cheese challenges are so fun to watch - and he does that while commentating live. One of the top players out there for sure!
Oops, he DID indeed get Glaives in game 1. I missed it somehow.
i also missed (because i skiped the part where he researched it) but i knew he had it bcz the adepts had orange balls instead of the blue balls
8:52 he did the research a few minutes earlier.
Another Lowko replay casting while on stream? :P
Lowko fake caster confirmed
Aaah I missed it!
You need 10k more games to cast to make sure you never make a mistake again
Was going to post this case of Lowko blindness. :)@@LowkoTV
My favorite 2 sc RUclipsr crossover? Lowko and uthermal ❤
8:34 glaives was the first upgrade he did, must have missed that
5:20 - I think he did make the glaives research..? Haven't played in a while, but are there more than one glaive upgrades?
Nope, that’s the one.
19:38 correction. Uthermal infact has a decent economy, so much better than the opponent. You need to change observer layout.
Uthermal has 3 base. The gold can mine double a fully saturated base with only 12 drones.
Protoss has 52 probes that mines 1 and half base. That's like 5 boys trying to finish a cake with 2 table teaspoon.
Clearly the trick to beat a super grand master starcraft player would be to use bluetooth beads. The kinda beads that only a cavity search would reveal.
It's a cross-sport meme, but it checks out.
Sending signals at 500 APM 😮💨
It just buzzes "spread creep"
Did they ever actually prove that though?
24:09 STALKER DOING WHAT?
Love watching my favorite sc2 caster cast Uthermal!
12:53 That micro was beautiful. Maplez lost no units in that entire exchange.
resonating glaves in game one were actually already researched at ~ 5:15 well before of "Mape!" at ~ 8:20
I was searching the video cause i was sure i saw it one time ... lokow did propably not :D
i love how lowko calls it a roach hydra army when it was just two leftover roaches with a mass hydra army lol. also the roaches to trick mape into switching off of adepts, and then switch to hydras to anticipate the stalkers was beautiful. you could see mape going for immortals to counter roaches at the end, but then throw down a robotics bay for collosus but it was too late
Thanks for casting. ^^
What a silly goose
Game 1 maples had glaves complete at 5:20 before charge (at game end). 👍
uThermal: "Alright, I'll just play Brood War instead."
Me: There's no way it's gonna-
My two favorite RUclipsrs in one video
"You can tell the style MapeTheApe likes to play by his name" No Lowko, I cannot tell, is it the Protoss units most like an ape?
I hope you'll enjoy the Formula 1 race today, Lowko!
Flawless "that's what she said" game. 10/10.
Uthermal just vibing out
8:55 i feel like he did glaives much earlier didn't he?
Much like uThermal's mmr, I'm sure you could pass as a Hobbit if you put your mind to it, Lowko! 😁
Uthermal in the first game seemed like he had the build down but wasn't really sure how to execute fully lol. Lings in the base, kinda sat there. Six mutas at minute six, didn't get much damage in. Rip.
I seem to distinctly remember you telling us recently that every Zerg unit that comes out of a cocoon will be healed to full.
The dropperlord that transformed itself here did not. @3:10
do we know why?
26:00 imagine this attack with roaches instead. That could've actually been close
Oh boy more Hydralisks!
Interesting games. Well called LOWKO!
the strategies and especially the economy that Uthermal plays makes me feel very uncomfy ( probably just out of comfort zone ) which ilove a lot, it is indeed experimental and super cool
Maples already finished the glaive upgrade at 5:15
uThermal turning into Bly
We need an sc2 server Olympics the top 10 from each server compete
Needs more 🐧 brothers
He DID have glaves
all this time and Lowko is still calling the queen Brenda
great game!
Me: :(
Lowko: uploads
Me: :)
why not a match You vs uThermal? :) don't know about the chances, but would definitely be a banger :))
anyone know the origin of the "Brenda" gag?
LOVE ME THERMY.
ya... playing sc2 4 fun is reaaaally Tier 1.
I never really recovered from my ladder anxiety
silver now.
Not with that attitude, you won't Lowko 😜
lowko i know u use the term "lowko blindness" allot but this went even further then that fair that u miss seeing the upgrade finish but we had multiple times seeing the adeps fight using RED GLAIVES which are the upgraded version o_O
Even if you didn't know anything about uthermal, you can tell easily he isn't a zerg main. No spreading creep, but more importantly tries to play on equal bases, that might work vs randoms on the ladder when smurf account, but it doesn't work vs competent players.
Can we get a uThermal vs Lowko Bo5?
Hydras do shit ? Other than turning into lurkers !?
Tha Best !!!
Hello Lowko :)
Lowko is colorblind xD
I'm confused as to why you chose this particular series of uThermal's to cast. He makes so many unconventional strategies work, and he's even made mass hydras work on other occasions, but you casted the one series where it didn't really work all that well.
I will never understand why “pros” don’t get spine / spore or canons etc in bases AND no upgrades. Uthermal almost never gets upgrades. Why? 15 hydras with 0/0 that’s just stupid. Even just do 1/1
Parece que tanto jugar contra pobres GM ha hablado a utermal
a zerg player that wasn’t Serral won 1 match of 3
better nerf zerg
But... Genshin & HSR when?
uThermal not Terran?
As a pro yes, but as content creator, there is more content to be had if you play all races.
Hes been playing more of his offrace recently. In this tournament he really wanted to use his hydralisk build, even though he know he will get blind countered hard. Which is why he made those weird transition on the 2nd and 3rd game
@@Jay__B1990 Thanks
@@bakajanai. Thanks
I don't know about uthermal being number 1. Special beat him really bad in tvt in a tournament.
solo
In the Native American Navajo indigenous language, uThermal translates to “Dead Drone”
Never been the first to watch a video before 😅
that was painful to watch all around
not really a great game, UTHERMAL played like a diamond league player at times
Maybe I'm wrong, and I'm happy to admit it if i am. But you seem to be have a sort of bias against zerg these days, seemingly to avoid bias towards them, since theyre your race. But What do I know? I'm just some asshole, lol.
Playing Starcraft 2 for fun? Disgusting behavior, ban em both.
Why do you always make fun of people trying to have fun with SC2 ? :-)
the proper timing of hydra allins is on 50 workers. Considering hydras cost vs adept cost, is 25 cheaper, hydras outscale them the later the game goes. (50 workers gives you crit mass vs everything at that timing) also considering upgrades and (not seen in this game) creep spread. going any lower is just straight up bad. (especially considering teching to vipers is also much easier with higher econ)
Also not having double queens is terrible, 0 base defense is terrible, if you lose more then 5 workers vs early unupgraded adepts, you are playing the game wrong.
Also very sloppy play of uthermal not having overlords at all spread in that last game. He basically chose to not get the maphacks via pillars. (seeing there was no stargate)
The reall reason why hydra allins work vs protoss, is because stargate openers are really really bad versus it, and its basically a mandatory unit in a macro game, how else are you going to get your 3rd up vs mass ling or scout what your opponent does, when everything gets denied by proper unit positioning?
Just because adepts are a timing that counters hydra, does not mean hydra allins automatically are forfit. They basically carry anyone who opens stargate. Even going 1 oracle delays your tech by 300 gas intotal. (you do the math how long it takes to get 300 gas with 2 saturated gasses)
Added to that, going for a roach timing destroys any adept timing, so if you see someone play adept timings over and over again, all you need to do is cut workers and go mass roach, before the push hits, and your basically guaranteed a free win.
You can try to pretend zerg doesnt have broken timings by showing off how good adepts are versus hydras. But if your gonna cast this type of game, your not supposed to be biased and also cast games where ppl cut workers at 50 and go mass roach. (also actually having someone play zerg who mains zerg is basically a must aswell if you want to be unbiased).
But i guess this was just a video proving adepts kill hydras?
609th
i bet this comment wont get pinned and also i have never been pinned before
Omfg the guy winning didnt end the game, so now I'll make a 47 min video over a match that is decided within 4 mins, but yakniw, i need views and shit games with darks name in hit hardddd. Even if theresbtrash with me yelling these games suck over the top