@@angelcelest I thought about the Canon R6 as well, but found another reviewer who had a horrible experience (CineD): ruclips.net/video/nt7ZbvqWfdY/видео.html
Any professional film maker that buys an R5 is dumb... just as dumb as any pro photographer buying a 12 MP crippled A7SIII. Cinema cameras exist for a reason.
@@77dris maybe the point is not every professional thinks the same, I'm a wedding photographer and I shoot photos with a Sony A7iii, I used to do it with an A7r2 but the raw sizes were just too big, so didn't go for the r3 or r4 cause the prints I do really don't need anything beyond 24mpxs, that could happen with video: shooting raw video is a nightmare and most progressionals only do that if necessary
Have you used the ninja on a gimbal? Just curious, cuz I shoot all day on a gimbal and I never bought a ninja because it seems like it would be too heavy and throw off the balance. Just curios if anyone has experience with it on gimbal?
Davin Phelps what I do is put a cheese plate on the side of the gimbal or have a handle attached with the gimbal that has places where I can mount anything that has a 1/4 screw. I put the ninja on that side rather that ever putting it on the top of the camera.
As soon as watched your prediction/review video on the R5- I canceled my pre-order because of the overheating and now watching this video- I am so glad I did. Thank you so much Matt!
Thank you for this video. I shoot with Canon, Sony and BlackMagic for weddings, music videos, real estate, TV and much more, and have been obsessing over upgrading from the R to the R5 or A7Siii, the latter of which I have a ton of experience with. This has basically confirmed for me that I'll be buying the A7Siii to pair with my Canon glass and Tilta wireless follow focus. Thank you, again!
You really nailed this review. Great work! I would NEVER film an entire wedding ceremony in 8K, but I would definitely use 8K for a few specialty moments, either with the bride and groom or epic landscapes as you described. But without access to 4K 60 or 4KHQ 24 fps I find it unusable.
Thank you for your test, Matt! I know you got some criticism for releasing yet another overheating video, but yours is very unique to specific professionals, like me. Your conclusion especially sums it up for me and was very helpful. You went very in-depth and showed me how this camera would operate in a wedding environment. I already decided against using this camera in those scenarios, but this shows me exactly what to expect from this camera at a wedding and I can NOT afford to have it fail on me. Had that happen to me once with a Nikon rental and I'm glad I had other cameras recording the ceremony. Thanks, again!
You prolly dont care but if you're stoned like me atm then you can stream all the latest series on InstaFlixxer. I've been binge watching with my girlfriend these days xD
Yours is simply the best, most practical, and down to earth perspective. I live in the California desert- it’s 118 degrees today. I have two EOS R’s that have never let me down 😬
Matt, thank you so much! This is the exact question I was asking myself all the time. "If I buy this for stills, can it pull off enough video shoots for me to create a 5-to-10-minute clip about the wedding day for my clients?" Well, it seems the awnser is no.
Man, I feel like these camera companies send out the cameras early to give a good boost to the sales. This model definitely backfired on Canon for sure. Also, appreciate you doing the review for a camera you actually paid for
@@Davitor1 They also didn't roll out as much as they were planning to because I feel they're probably hoping that by late fall they have a solution. I hope so too. The R5 and R6 deserve better
Actually, the R5 is the best selling Canon pro camera to date, they have exceeded expectations and made an announcment about this. R5 is a pro PHOTO camera, NOT a video camera. Anybody who buys it for video only has only themselves to blame. As a pro photographer, if I'd spent $5000 on an A7SIII and then tried to give my clients 12 MP photos, I'd get laughed at, then fired. Should I blame Sony? Sorry, Matt made the mistake, nobody else.
@@77dris how did he make a "mistake"? The R5 was marketed by Canon as a high end production camera. He literally screen capped the marketing material wherein Canon states this. Canon chose the bed they are lying on. The overheating issue is a crippling situation, especially because it affects the camera even for just shooting photos. If you rationalize that this is an amazing photo camera that Canon overhyped as a video camera... if you are a professional, you still have to ask yourself... can I rely on this item for a full day shoot? The answer seems to be no.
Your honesty is highly appreciated. As you mentioned, it renders the R5 useless for professional purposes because the last thing you want to think about while shooting is overheating, which stops the creative process immediately. And even as an amateur or enthusiast, you never want to deal with a camera that stops working while filming an event or a precious moment in time.
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 I dunno how some dudes on Facebook talking about filming with the EOS R5 the whole wedding day 4k60 without overheating. I think even if you could... You are literally stepping on eggshells and babying the camera all day and instead of concentrating on capturing the best footage, you are concentrating on not overheating your camera. No thanks ! Great review of real world use of this camera, Matt. I can't wait until Sept. 24. 👀
Uh, so how were you able to shoot 8k and 4K 120 last month then? Oh yeah, you didn't. You shot 1080 or 4K 30, which you can do with the R5 unlimited. People are so dumb.
@@whoismatt you should clarify unless you want to pay xtra and do external recording. But yeah 120 above. Not going to happen. Which is cheaper for the 4k hq file sizes, internal card or 1 to 2 tb external drives, so files that big. 800$ for ninja v and 2 1tb drives is cheap in space compared to internal card, right? If I was going to record hours of hq. Going to use external recorder anyway. It is practical from space. Cost perspective. Only thing, you lose from a professional vid camera here is 120 slowmo.
One of the best honest reviews I have seen regarding this camera and it's overheating issues. Very well done. Thank you for your efforts and clear explanation.
As a Canon shooter I agree 100% with your review and conclusions... My feelings are not hurt as I am only interested in facts... Of course I wish it was different but it is what it is. This is NOT a wedding filmmaker camera because of the recovery times required to film. I have a R5 and I am keeping it because I also got it for stills (outstanding) and for occasional video. Not for weddings for sure. I also have the luxury of having a cinema camera for "real" video work,,, So from a Canon fanboy thanks for the honest real time review
Anybody who buys a mirrorless camera that's photocentric like the R5 to shoot wedding videos must be nuts. With that said, I personally know 2 wedding photogs who have so far shot 4 weddings combined with the R5 and have had no issues doing photos and a LOT of video as well.
@@reneecker116 I'd say at least 25% of the Vietnamese aboriginals have the Nguyen last name. Legend has it that the people of the Nguyen dynasty changed their surname to that of the King's.
S1H is the best. I shoot 4K 60p non stop for a complete wedding without a problem :). Thanks for the video! I was really thinking about moving back to Canon before...
Thanks Matt for putting it right! It's either Canon just comes clean that it's a photo cam and people stop with all the hype ! Quite frankly the advertisers should be fired for false advertising if u ask me... 😢
What a great review - thanks for making it, because the type of b-roll shooting you talk about is exactly how I film for my RUclips channel. I wanted so badly for it to work for me, but I think I would only be frustrated by it. Instead, I'm heavily leaning towards the Sony A7siii when it comes out!
The entire problem seems to be the CF Express card heavily bottlenecks this camera's capabilities. And i'm sure the software is designed to be conservative in protecting against overheating the CF cards as to not damage them. I plan on doing my own test to see if switching cards frequently or if directing airflow towards the card slots when its off boosts recovery time.
There are videos of test done - in which removing the cards and plugging into an external recorder eliminates ALL heating problems even in 8K. So your hunch in on the money!
Exactly. The C300mkIII (which also shoots on CFexpress cards) constantly emits hot air from its cooling vents and the cards also get extremely hot after use. Although they're very different cameras, they're not that far off in terms of processing (codecs & frame rates) so I fail to see how Canon opted for the R5's build without a proper cooling system in place rather than something closer to the S1H.
Fortunately when we ordered our R5 the intended use was a gimbal camera. We always use a monitor when shooting on a gimbal, so we switch out the smallHD for a Ninja V, and voila. 4K60p all day, no issues!
Would you recommend the R5 as a Professional Photography Camera that also will be great for a RUclipsr over the R6? I think Canons Idea It was to use the R5 video capabilities for things like RUclips.
Wow. This is the absolute best review of this camera’s actual capabilities. I’ve been looking for a good camera to film short clips of my hikes. I use the iPhone now but want something with higher quality and good IBIS. Some of my hikes can last 3-4 hours (and also in the hot Texas sun sometimes!) so I definitely want something that will last and not overheat. It’s unbelievable to me that a camera company would release a camera boasting about it’s 4k and 8k abilities, and then basically make those settings unusable for most professionals due to overheating. It sounds like they weren’t really ready to release a camera with those options yet after all - at least until they can resolve the overheating issues. So disappointing. Thanks again for this very detailed real-world review! (New subscriber. 🙂)
For a RUclips with more real world reviews - that are actually real world reviews - like this. I live in Brazil and I do a lot of external photo and video, at temperatures above 45 Celsius. I do it with no problems using my 1dxmk2, but I had my doubts on the R5. Not anymore thanks to you. Thanks for the content! * are you keeping the camera?
Been waiting for this one from you! Honestly the Canons seemed so appealing because of their Ibis, IS in the lenses, super 35 mode and good photo abilities, but you'd literally be focused on how much you can shoot without overheating and worrying about it all day, which is not good. All in all, glad I pre ordered the A7siii! Cheers for the video Matt.
Perfect! This is the best review I have seen on the R5 just for the answer to the main question that NOBODY else has answered, but which is seemingly the most important question to so many people: When does this camera overheat from normal run-n-gun and/or hybrid shooting (even cinema usages)? It is crazy that nobody else has tried to answer this question. But you have, and I am grateful! I've never seen any of your videos, but this one presentation has made me a fan. I look forward to seeing more of your work! P.S. I'm also grateful you saved me $4,000 :)
But should you have to when buying a $4000 camera. With a good set of lenses, cfexpress cards and the ninja I would most definitely just go with something else with all that money
@@brandoncharleswhite7893 it's the replacement for the 5dline and same price range of original 5dmaKIV whose video capabilities does even come close to this. For 4000$ the hybrid capabilities are well worth the price. Hmm any 5dmarkiv wedding shooters out there? The marketing around this camera sucks but people claiming this cannot be a professional video camera, well, it is plain and simple b.s. only if you have to have 120 slomo would that be true. Add a 600 ninja v 4500 and this camera is fantastic. Most definitely beats other previous camera setups. It may not be the BEST professional video camera but it definitely can be a good one. If your need is photo and video candy do without 120 then this would be one of the best with the ninja added. Glorified eos r, compare 4k24 non hq and all other stats, photons video. Sorry matt but that is complete bs statement, R cannot compare to R5
That is a practical workaround yes. If a photographer wants to use his R5 for video, then they could invest in an Atomos. I've seen a former collegue do that for vlog/bts work, and it works. He also has a C300III for when he's really doing video.
This is just so disappointing... i have been waiting so long for the R6 and R5... I will wait for the new R cinema small form camera... but I really wanted something full frame 4k HQ for film making with my RF glass...Guess I will be left waiting for another year or so
Hi Matt, this is way indepth and as close to a real shoot as in real life. Thanks for taking the time to do this and I must commend the detail you so gracefully used that answered all questions I had instantly
Matt thank you so much for making this video!! I’m so done watching overheating test only about long shot! These are the kind of testing that people should do it because if a camera can offer a feature it must be done 100%. This is the reality no excuse! I really hope that Canon address these issues and fix it! Finger crossed!
Thank you! I hope you can do a similar review on the A7S3 since it does seem to be effected by outside temps. As a Florida wedding videographer, it's a huge consideration.
Don't use 8k and limit 4k. 1080p is more than enough. Doing high quality video in camera is extensively expensive venture when you can just bump up the resolution in post.
Appreciate this - but I have several issues with the findings and commentary of this video. (Note: I got all my RF gear and expect to get my R5 in the next couple of days). 1. "Who buys this camera to shoot photos?" - Are you kidding me?!? It's got amazing face and animal tracking, fantastic IBIS (adding at least 3 stops), 40 MPs, and an amazing set of advanced lenses. Why would you NOT buy this to shoot still photos? It's sharpness, color fidelity and ease of operation are unbeatable. 2. "You shouldn't rely on this camera to shoot a full-day wedding". Agree, but no one would. If you want to shoot a full days video, why would you get a photo camera to the game? Rent a Canon XA50 or something like that. This is a photo camera with the added ability to shoot amazing quality bursts of video, or extended video in HD/30. Works fine for me.
Nice review as always Matt. Although the conclusion: "You can not rely on they video as a professional filmmaker" completely leaves out professional hybrid shooters who want to shoot excellent stills at 45mpx and 1080p 24p and 1080p 120fps at high mb/s. The R5 is a best of video production camera at those specs AND a beast of photography camera. Its just not an 8K RAW/4K HQ/4K60p production camera, and frankly, I don't know what kind of wedding videographer would be interested in shooting a wedding ceremony entirely in 8K Raw unless they were shooting with the C500mk ii before and felt there wasn't enough resolution! LOL! The 8K is a novelty for that special shot you really need to zoom in on. That's few and far in between. Best would be to dedicate one of the custom modes to 8K RAW, one to 4K60P, and the rest of the time stay at 4K 24 and 1080 120p. That's how I see it... but what do I know... I preordered two A7siii 's! LOL!
Really good review of this topic! As a big canon fan, I am honestly very disappointed with the company. I always compared it to an Iphone, which most if time had lower specs than it's competition but worked most of the times better overall. It seems like canon decided to change this strategy and they really totally messed up. Also after seeing the improved Sony a7s3 colors and menue there are really less and less reasons to stay with canon after 10 years.
I'm still shooting weddings in 1920 by 1080. Honestly what attracts me more to the R5 or R6 is not the 4k or 8k modes, it's the IBIS! But I'm still going to wait a bit before getting the R6, which is the camera I'm looking into.
Very good testing, thank you. I wonder if you had the chance to try the s35-mode, which is oversampled 4K and not supposed to overheat. I know everybody is panning the R5 as a video tool, but if you think of it as a very good stills camera with a small c200 inside, I think it makes quite a lot o f sense (lack of reliable slo-mo notwithstanding). If the s35 4k turns out to be as reliable as the non HQ 4k, that is.
Nothing beats skill and talent. There are many wedding videos on RUclips now. Kinda short sited to think that EVERY wedding photographer shoots in the same exact way. A more accurate way of stating it, would be to say, YOU don't know how to use the camera without it overheating. Simple. Other people do however. Suggest conversing with your peers and see how they are doing it. The warning doesn't mean it's overheated at or past it's 104 F threshold. Get a FLIR or equal temp measuring device and stay within you published tolerances.
You need to make a video on why you are against using external recorders for shooting weddings (especially when you can’t have any memory cards in the camera as a back up). Also discuss why micro HDMI ports are super fragile and can break easily, especially in hectic wedding shoot days. People need to hear this.
I love that you get straight to the point. That settles it I'll wish I had enough money for an a7siii or something else instead of wishing I had it for an R5 :p
Yes at last! A test on cumulative shooting, where the shooter start/stops all the time. Your reviews are always top-notch and have integrity. Thanks for the clear heads up.....now what's Canon going to do about it?
I wouldn't go to a wedding with only the R5 because of this issue. Having a backup (ideally identical to the main camera) is a must. The insulation and weather sealing probably traps heat. WHat happens when you leave the battery door and jack covers open? DO you think they should offer a detachable external heat sink? - Or expose some metal. Amplifiers and speakers have those. Come on! Is it a crazy idea?
Matt.... at 9:52 that's exactly the point.... this is a Photography Camera 95% with some cool video specs..... that's it.... In the other hand we have the Sony A7Siii, which is a VIDEO camera 95% and photo 5%
Hey Pablo, I agree this is a great photography camera! Bit confused as to why Canon marketed this camera as a great choice for filmmakers as well. 8K isn't exactly for hobbyists....
@@whoismatt I absolutely agree with you, this is a huge marketing failure from Canon, they got carried away with the video hype that is dominating RUclips these days I think?.... maybe its because in the Photography side we have reached a certain level in which is harder to get massive improvements.... so its harder to sell a new "photography" camera.
Can you run around filming a wedding day with an external recorder? Honest question. I shoot all day on a gimbal and it just seems like it would way it down and throw off the balance. And just be a lot of weight and wires for all the quick shots you need to get on a wedding day
This was a much needed test! Exceptionally comprehensive as always, Matt. It also makes me sad as someone who has invested so much in Canon (both in glass and in the 7D and 1D X Mark II). Now I’m looking at how to best adapt EF glass to the A7s III, and still retain AF performance in video 😔.
If you have Sigma lenses you can get them rehoused for relatively cheap. Otherwise I would look into selling your EF lenses and moving to native Sony if you want comparable AF in video.
Matt WhoisMatt Johnson thanks for the reply! I was afraid it would come to that haha.. perhaps it’s time. I was thinking of possibly going for a C200, but with the crazy amount of value the A7s III offers in that compact size, I don’t know if I can pass that up.
excellent video Matt!!!!! thanks for sharing. I am a SONY user, but i have seen that FOR PHOTO this camera is GREAT to be fair. Thanks for an extensive review!!!!! God bless
There are two ways to make it work. In both cases, you will have to have at least two of them. First way is to have one shooting always in 4K non HQ 30fps or lower and the other one only shooting the occasional 4K60p or 4K120p and then turned off immediately to cool down. The other way is to have both cameras recording to an Atomos Ninja V, and switching cameras every two hours.
I could see swapping bodies, but then you would still need even more bodies for the wedding ceremony, because once you film even in 4K non HQ they will lose their ability to record any of the wedding reception in high frame rates. If you go the Atomos route, you're looking at $10K for 2 bodies with recorders. 😅
@@whoismatt In scenario 1, you can shoot with camera a continuously at non HQ mode and the camera b will be switched on only to shoot the occasional shot at 60p or 120p only when it is necessary and then put to rest. I believe that unless you constantly shoot at 60p and 120p on camera b, you will be able to shoot a few 60p/120p shots and then have the camera rest for 15-20min before you touch it again so in practice you will be able to shoot for quite a while. With scenario 2, you can get away with 2 bodies, and one recorder.Just swap the recorder from camera 1 to camera 2 when you have a long enough break. Still an expensive way to do things but on the other hand, working with two bodies for redundancy was always a standard for unrepeatable events like weddings.
Welp this video was the final nail in the coffin. I just cancelled my order and I died a little inside. I’m a wedding videographer on Maui and the R5 just won’t work. I wanted this camera to be good so bad, I know I should just switch to Sony but I have invested way too much in canon glass to make the switch. Thanks for the video though Matt it was exactly what I needed to hear even though it made me cry.
5:27 Ah, the old reliable FS700- 240 fps @ 1080, internal NDs, 2 XLR ports, battery life for hours, no record limit, great compression/file sizes, no overheating in any circumstance all packed into a reliable nearly indestructible body. I still run mine at every wedding as a static unmanned cam. Drastically underrated for the features.
Ever since the 8k was announced on this camera, my thought was "I'm never going to use this, but I'm looking forward to what that means for the 4k capabilities!"
Well that made my mind up. I will not be buying this camera. I think I may go with the C70, even though it’s a couple thousand more. The cinema line cameras don’t over heat and I have filmed a few weddings already with the c100 mark ii that I rented over and over again. I’m really looking forward to OWNING(for the first time) a camera that’s not too heavy, has built in ND filters, can film in 4K 60 and not over heat! You are probs my favorite reviewer Matt! Thank you!
Wow! I was looking at the Canon R5 and then I noticed that we live in the same city! So wild to know there is someone in Kyle doing such great work. Definitely going to sub.
Since my tripod doesn't pan as smoothly as I like, I leave the stabilization on. It at least eliminates the jerks and allows me to gently carry the tripod and move while ensuring continuous recording. This overheating issue seems to be endless! Just film in 1080p LOL.
Hi matt, interesting test, i just got an r5 to test - new firmware - and i have 4k 60 all-i only available on cfexpress card , and same but IPB on sd card. tomorrow i'll get a Cfexpress and i'm curious to test the time to overheat 4k120 and 4k 60 HQ, beside 8k wich is less relevant anyway. thanks. keep going
The overheating issue on the R5 has been recently solved by recording to an external recorder (i.e. Ninja V) instead directly to the internal SD cards. Apparently this gives you around 4 hours of continuous 4k HQ mode and faster recovery time as well.
@@Westwardeast even if u tack on another $1k for an external recorder, what other camera will give u what the R5 can for both stills and video? Sony As7iii? Only good for video Panasonic GH5 or S1H? Autofocus sucks
@@jtdiddy3160 if you are buying this camera and setting it up with an external recorder then there is a super slim chance that you are an entry-level creator or you do just as much photo as you do video. If you actually need the 4K 120 or HQ and a 45MP censor you hands down have a stills centric camera and a film-centric rig.
@@Westwardeast i'm stepping up from a Canon M50 and I consider myself a beginner still. But I have the Ninja V bc i wanted to maximize the features of the R5 or As7iii. I haven't decided yet which one I'm getting
@@jtdiddy3160 Man the best advice I can give you as someone who is a professional and self-taught is to not waste your money on either of those cameras!!! I say that with serious care for you. Spend your money on something like the GH5, the X-T4, or A7III. Specs and numbers do little for you in the real commercial world if you don't have the experience to use them. I'm sure you are a talented person but invest in glass and learning the craft. No R5 or A7SIII is going to get you paid or make you a better filmmaker or photographer. Invest in yourself, not a camera body! I run an inhouse media dept with two A7III and have written $10k contracts with very happy clients at the end, all with an A7III and a sigma 35.
Fantastic review as always and straight to the point. As a Wedding photographer does the R5 overheat just taking photos???. 2 to 3 thousand images and more on a typical day.
Hey Matt WhoisMatt Johnson! I just bought the Canon R6 and did some 1080p and 4K testing.. No overheating with firmware 1.2.0. None. I ran out of memory before I could get it to overheat. LOL Need more memory -- which 170mb/s can handle anything out of the R6. Also I'm able to use both card slots for video -- someone told me that was 'locked' in the previous firmware versions?
So is this pretty much the case with all hybrid cameras to date? I'd like to shoot a wedding this way with my xt4, but I also know that's probably asking for trouble, unless I go down to 1080p. I'd still be curious to see how it compares heat wise. Seems like we need a big breakthrough in either heat dissipation or having the cameras produce less heat. It has to happen eventually, right?
Thanks for the honest and to the point spot on review. Albeit it’s a great camera, great ecosystem, this answers questions I had. Sony A7Siii for me but not knocking the R5 either👍
Awesome video, thank you Matt! This is exactly the sort of comprehensive review of the overheating issue I wanted to see and you delivered! I look forward to your review of the Sony a7siii when it comes out :)
No question that Canon went about the marketing for this camera poorly but as a professional in my business having at least two of everything has always been my motto. Nothing else in this form factor will do the high quality options the R5 does. Either get two R5’s or the A7Siii for its 4k30/60/120 and to save having to buy Sony lenses use an EF adaptor for canon glass and use the R5 for stills, 4K HQ with an external recorder and 8K internal for video with option of 35MP still frame grabs. Not to mention incredible IBIS. Realistically nobody needs all this but why not offer what it can do. Minus lens costs your in 9 grand for both bodies. It’s not chump change but it’s your business and you can bill appropriately for offering the best quality images (skill aside:) This is a pro piece of gear doing things others can’t at the moment with obvious limitations based on spec. If we want the best for our clients these are the limitations of our time. We are either a professional or we are not.
For me, overheating isn't the biggest issue, but rather the downtime and inability to use the camera. That clock quietly counting down in the background would give me great anxiety, and require scheduling my time around what the camera may or may not do. Yuck.
best review! I'm in a great dilemma: I have a 5D Mark 4 and a 6D Mark 1. I need and upgrade for a camera capable of 4K 60fps (120 would be ideal, but 60 can solve my needs). As a long time canon user, I'm been thinking about the R6 or R5, but the overheating problem made me stop and take the time to think about my options. Sony would be the obviously choice, but all my lenses are Canon and I intent to keep the 5d Mark 4 as my main photo camera and second video camera, so more money for glass. Blackmagic 6k Pro would be my other option, but it lacks a good autofocus and pictures. Dilemmas, dilemmas...
Matt!! Can we get a video of you talking about the R5C? It seems to be the camera that fixed all the issues you describe in this video. But I would love to see it actually put to the test!
I feel like Canon can take off this internal timer and film way longer than advertised. It seems like it can handle a lot more than it lets you. I pray that with an update it fixes it and unlocks its full potential.
We can hope that is the case. I will say the camera does warm up to around 100F when overheating. It's warm to hold, and I can see Canon not wanting it to get much warmer before shutting it off.
My concern would be that even if the limits are taken off, what would all that overheating do to the sensor and other internal components over time? I imagine it would significantly shorten the lifespan of this camera. Can you imagine the camera just going completely dead on you during an event? 1 year into purchasing? 2 years? I would be crushed. I've been using a GH5 for years now and it's still going very strong. Reliability, to me, is way more important that top end specs.
If you've been considering buying the R5 for wedding filmmaking, I hope this video helps with your decision!
Glad we didn't buy them, still loving our S1 and A7iii's here and will most likely stick with them for a couple more years.
Thank you Matt! Super helpful! We all appreciate your real world test for weddings using this camera. I’m going to wait for the Sony a7sIII : )
Ps... I hope you can get your money back and return it. Lol.
Thank you Matt. Breaks my heart, being fully invested in Canon glass myself.. Hopefully the R6 will be wedding capable.
@@angelcelest I thought about the Canon R6 as well, but found another reviewer who had a horrible experience (CineD): ruclips.net/video/nt7ZbvqWfdY/видео.html
Matt, nobody would watch this video and get the feeling you’ve been sponsored by Canon for this one.. you don’t have to worry 🤣🤣🤣
That was a good one
No, clearly this is canons idea of reverse psychology. You can't pay him to say good things, that would be too obvious. You gotta trick people.
@@gmcubed Matt is a nice guy, he is angry. Never seen Matt like that about a camera. It could be reverse psychology overload
Haha for sure.
Maybe he is sponsored by Sony :)
Matt: “Professional film makers should NOT rely on this camera”
Canon: 👁💧👄💧👁
Any professional film maker that buys an R5 is dumb... just as dumb as any pro photographer buying a 12 MP crippled A7SIII.
Cinema cameras exist for a reason.
@@77dris maybe the point is not every professional thinks the same, I'm a wedding photographer and I shoot photos with a Sony A7iii, I used to do it with an A7r2 but the raw sizes were just too big, so didn't go for the r3 or r4 cause the prints I do really don't need anything beyond 24mpxs, that could happen with video: shooting raw video is a nightmare and most progressionals only do that if necessary
@@77dris try to spend a whole wedding day with a professional camera mounted on a gimbal. Good luck with that ;-)
@@badmoonPL did it for 35 weddings last year. This year I don't use a gimbal unless I have too. My back got so fucked up. 😅
Yes, though he's assuming that you don't have six R5 bodies in rotation and an S1H for everything long form ;)
"Most filmmakers I know shoot in UHD"
*Nods and strokes chin* "Of course..."
*Googles "UHD vs DCI"*
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Corey Koon 😂😂😂
LOL!!!! 😂😂😂
haha as a just new to video that is SO me about every other big technical word lol
My mind was blown when I first heard there were two types of 4k. I died.
The most straight answered video on the overheating of this camera, THANK YOU!
Have you used the ninja on a gimbal? Just curious, cuz I shoot all day on a gimbal and I never bought a ninja because it seems like it would be too heavy and throw off the balance. Just curios if anyone has experience with it on gimbal?
Davin Phelps what I do is put a cheese plate on the side of the gimbal or have a handle attached with the gimbal that has places where I can mount anything that has a 1/4 screw. I put the ninja on that side rather that ever putting it on the top of the camera.
ANM Productions - All Things Film thanks for your response!
As soon as watched your prediction/review video on the R5- I canceled my pre-order because of the overheating and now watching this video- I am so glad I did. Thank you so much Matt!
You should have... Cause Matt's keeping his R5.
Thank you for this video. I shoot with Canon, Sony and BlackMagic for weddings, music videos, real estate, TV and much more, and have been obsessing over upgrading from the R to the R5 or A7Siii, the latter of which I have a ton of experience with. This has basically confirmed for me that I'll be buying the A7Siii to pair with my Canon glass and Tilta wireless follow focus. Thank you, again!
You really nailed this review. Great work! I would NEVER film an entire wedding ceremony in 8K, but I would definitely use 8K for a few specialty moments, either with the bride and groom or epic landscapes as you described. But without access to 4K 60 or 4KHQ 24 fps I find it unusable.
Thank you for your test, Matt! I know you got some criticism for releasing yet another overheating video, but yours is very unique to specific professionals, like me. Your conclusion especially sums it up for me and was very helpful. You went very in-depth and showed me how this camera would operate in a wedding environment. I already decided against using this camera in those scenarios, but this shows me exactly what to expect from this camera at a wedding and I can NOT afford to have it fail on me. Had that happen to me once with a Nikon rental and I'm glad I had other cameras recording the ceremony. Thanks, again!
Thanks Andrew! Glad my video was specific and helpful. :)
I am getting stomach ache listening and imagine
Well done Matt, very good video. You’ve got across those really important points that people just don’t realise!
Thanks Philip! I only wish I had the chance to test the camera in Skiathos 😂
Matt WhoisMatt Johnson Sorry! Americans are banned from all Europe. Probably forever! 🤣
You prolly dont care but if you're stoned like me atm then you can stream all the latest series on InstaFlixxer. I've been binge watching with my girlfriend these days xD
@Nicolas Korbyn Yea, I've been watching on InstaFlixxer for years myself :)
Yours is simply the best, most practical, and down to earth perspective. I live in the California desert- it’s 118 degrees today. I have two EOS R’s that have never let me down 😬
Matt, thank you so much! This is the exact question I was asking myself all the time. "If I buy this for stills, can it pull off enough video shoots for me to create a 5-to-10-minute clip about the wedding day for my clients?" Well, it seems the awnser is no.
That's not true. It certainly can. If you're able to do it with your current configuration, you can certainly do it with the R5.
@@tayo5302 that's not true. 4k crop doesn't overheat. Just stop the pandering. And doesn't overheat with an Atomos
Man, I feel like these camera companies send out the cameras early to give a good boost to the sales. This model definitely backfired on Canon for sure. Also, appreciate you doing the review for a camera you actually paid for
So far it’s selling fast backorder now till December.
@@Davitor1 They also didn't roll out as much as they were planning to because I feel they're probably hoping that by late fall they have a solution. I hope so too. The R5 and R6 deserve better
Actually, the R5 is the best selling Canon pro camera to date, they have exceeded expectations and made an announcment about this. R5 is a pro PHOTO camera, NOT a video camera. Anybody who buys it for video only has only themselves to blame.
As a pro photographer, if I'd spent $5000 on an A7SIII and then tried to give my clients 12 MP photos, I'd get laughed at, then fired. Should I blame Sony?
Sorry, Matt made the mistake, nobody else.
@@77dris how did he make a "mistake"? The R5 was marketed by Canon as a high end production camera. He literally screen capped the marketing material wherein Canon states this. Canon chose the bed they are lying on. The overheating issue is a crippling situation, especially because it affects the camera even for just shooting photos. If you rationalize that this is an amazing photo camera that Canon overhyped as a video camera... if you are a professional, you still have to ask yourself... can I rely on this item for a full day shoot? The answer seems to be no.
I'm one of the suckers who bought a 6D Mark ii. I cant sell it. Nobody will buy it... I've been trying for 2 years on craigslist
Your honesty is highly appreciated. As you mentioned, it renders the R5 useless for professional purposes because the last thing you want to think about while shooting is overheating, which stops the creative process immediately. And even as an amateur or enthusiast, you never want to deal with a camera that stops working while filming an event or a precious moment in time.
Yes! This is the kind of real-life review I've been waiting for. Would to pick this up as a B-cam and keeping my BMPCC6k as my main cam.
This is by FAR the best video on the practicality (or lack there-of) of the R5, and it’s not even close. Incredible work, thorough tests.
Thanks Joe!
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 I dunno how some dudes on Facebook talking about filming with the EOS R5 the whole wedding day 4k60 without overheating.
I think even if you could... You are literally stepping on eggshells and babying the camera all day and instead of concentrating on capturing the best footage, you are concentrating on not overheating your camera. No thanks !
Great review of real world use of this camera, Matt. I can't wait until Sept. 24. 👀
Thanks Vu! Agreed that this camera has me thinking more about overheating than actual storytelling.
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Exactly. That's no way to work.
@@loudandclearmedia yup
I hate those clickbait posts/videos. External recording via a thin hdmi or internal without redundancy are also deal breakers in run & gun situations.
WoW so it would have totally failed me with that 2 hour Catholic wedding ceremony I shot last month.
I think it would have recorded the entire ceremony in 4K non HQ, but you could kiss filming the rest of the reception at anything higher than 30fps.
Uh, so how were you able to shoot 8k and 4K 120 last month then? Oh yeah, you didn't. You shot 1080 or 4K 30, which you can do with the R5 unlimited. People are so dumb.
@@77dris I used to love cannon too man... It's okay sometimes you just got to let it go.
@@whoismatt you should clarify unless you want to pay xtra and do external recording. But yeah 120 above. Not going to happen. Which is cheaper for the 4k hq file sizes, internal card or 1 to 2 tb external drives, so files that big. 800$ for ninja v and 2 1tb drives is cheap in space compared to internal card, right? If I was going to record hours of hq. Going to use external recorder anyway. It is practical from space. Cost perspective. Only thing, you lose from a professional vid camera here is 120 slowmo.
One of the best honest reviews I have seen regarding this camera and it's overheating issues. Very well done. Thank you for your efforts and clear explanation.
As a Canon shooter I agree 100% with your review and conclusions... My feelings are not hurt as I am only interested in facts... Of course I wish it was different but it is what it is. This is NOT a wedding filmmaker camera because of the recovery times required to film. I have a R5 and I am keeping it because I also got it for stills (outstanding) and for occasional video. Not for weddings for sure. I also have the luxury of having a cinema camera for "real" video work,,, So from a Canon fanboy thanks for the honest real time review
Thanks Bryan!
Anybody who buys a mirrorless camera that's photocentric like the R5 to shoot wedding videos must be nuts. With that said, I personally know 2 wedding photogs who have so far shot 4 weddings combined with the R5 and have had no issues doing photos and a LOT of video as well.
Finally a videographer who asked all the right Qs and answered all my concerns, Matt ur a legend!
Matt is the only guy I would listen to for real world reviews of video gear
This is a much, much clearer review than other youtubers especially from a wedding videographer like you. Cheers!
The most honest review we will ever have. Thanks Matt. A7siii here we come!
Canon fans be like "oh but that color science."
@@reneecker116 Racist or at the very least highly insensitive comment.
Steves Vanderpool hm was more of a question, didnt want to offend anyone. But a lot of ppl of Asia are called Nguyen right?
@@reneecker116 I'd say at least 25% of the Vietnamese aboriginals have the Nguyen last name. Legend has it that the people of the Nguyen dynasty changed their surname to that of the King's.
Henry Nguyen thanks for the answer! Once more: I didn’t want to offend you
@@reneecker116 Nah, im not easily offended.
Yall member getting pumped for this camera?
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I LOVE DETAILS and Specs! Thanks for getting in depth about this camera. You and Gerald are my GO TO channels for the details to remove doubts 👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽
Thank you!
I've never seen Matt so mad! Glad he is being honest.
Finally a review that talks about real situations with the overheating issue and not just gear heads talking about specs!...
S1H is the best. I shoot 4K 60p non stop for a complete wedding without a problem :). Thanks for the video! I was really thinking about moving back to Canon before...
Thanks Matt for putting it right! It's either Canon just comes clean that it's a photo cam and people stop with all the hype ! Quite frankly the advertisers should be fired for false advertising if u ask me... 😢
What a great review - thanks for making it, because the type of b-roll shooting you talk about is exactly how I film for my RUclips channel. I wanted so badly for it to work for me, but I think I would only be frustrated by it. Instead, I'm heavily leaning towards the Sony A7siii when it comes out!
one of the best explanations on RUclips, and I've seen just about every r5 video. let's hope Canon drastically improves this for both r5 and r6.
The entire problem seems to be the CF Express card heavily bottlenecks this camera's capabilities. And i'm sure the software is designed to be conservative in protecting against overheating the CF cards as to not damage them. I plan on doing my own test to see if switching cards frequently or if directing airflow towards the card slots when its off boosts recovery time.
There are videos of test done - in which removing the cards and plugging into an external recorder eliminates ALL heating problems even in 8K. So your hunch in on the money!
Exactly. The C300mkIII (which also shoots on CFexpress cards) constantly emits hot air from its cooling vents and the cards also get extremely hot after use. Although they're very different cameras, they're not that far off in terms of processing (codecs & frame rates) so I fail to see how Canon opted for the R5's build without a proper cooling system in place rather than something closer to the S1H.
Such a legend. Well done for an honest review.
Fortunately when we ordered our R5 the intended use was a gimbal camera. We always use a monitor when shooting on a gimbal, so we switch out the smallHD for a Ninja V, and voila. 4K60p all day, no issues!
Would you recommend the R5 as a Professional Photography Camera that also will be great for a RUclipsr over the R6? I think Canons Idea It was to use the R5 video capabilities for things like RUclips.
Thanks for crushing all of my hopes and dreams.
C200 is still good at least! 😂😭
Wow. This is the absolute best review of this camera’s actual capabilities. I’ve been looking for a good camera to film short clips of my hikes. I use the iPhone now but want something with higher quality and good IBIS. Some of my hikes can last 3-4 hours (and also in the hot Texas sun sometimes!) so I definitely want something that will last and not overheat. It’s unbelievable to me that a camera company would release a camera boasting about it’s 4k and 8k abilities, and then basically make those settings unusable for most professionals due to overheating. It sounds like they weren’t really ready to release a camera with those options yet after all - at least until they can resolve the overheating issues. So disappointing. Thanks again for this very detailed real-world review! (New subscriber. 🙂)
For a RUclips with more real world reviews - that are actually real world reviews - like this.
I live in Brazil and I do a lot of external photo and video, at temperatures above 45 Celsius. I do it with no problems using my 1dxmk2, but I had my doubts on the R5. Not anymore thanks to you.
Thanks for the content!
* are you keeping the camera?
Been waiting for this one from you! Honestly the Canons seemed so appealing because of their Ibis, IS in the lenses, super 35 mode and good photo abilities, but you'd literally be focused on how much you can shoot without overheating and worrying about it all day, which is not good.
All in all, glad I pre ordered the A7siii! Cheers for the video Matt.
Agreed Chris, it's incredibly appealing, which makes it all the worse that it overheats so badly.
Perfect! This is the best review I have seen on the R5 just for the answer to the main question that NOBODY else has answered, but which is seemingly the most important question to so many people: When does this camera overheat from normal run-n-gun and/or hybrid shooting (even cinema usages)? It is crazy that nobody else has tried to answer this question. But you have, and I am grateful! I've never seen any of your videos, but this one presentation has made me a fan. I look forward to seeing more of your work! P.S. I'm also grateful you saved me $4,000 :)
You can record to an atomos and get over 4+ hours of continuous recording with no overheating, and only 5-10 minute recovery time.
But should you have to when buying a $4000 camera. With a good set of lenses, cfexpress cards and the ninja I would most definitely just go with something else with all that money
@@brandoncharleswhite7893 it's the replacement for the 5dline and same price range of original 5dmaKIV whose video capabilities does even come close to this. For 4000$ the hybrid capabilities are well worth the price. Hmm any 5dmarkiv wedding shooters out there? The marketing around this camera sucks but people claiming this cannot be a professional video camera, well, it is plain and simple b.s. only if you have to have 120 slomo would that be true. Add a 600 ninja v 4500 and this camera is fantastic. Most definitely beats other previous camera setups. It may not be the BEST professional video camera but it definitely can be a good one. If your need is photo and video candy do without 120 then this would be one of the best with the ninja added. Glorified eos r, compare 4k24 non hq and all other stats, photons video. Sorry matt but that is complete bs statement, R cannot compare to R5
That is a practical workaround yes. If a photographer wants to use his R5 for video, then they could invest in an Atomos. I've seen a former collegue do that for vlog/bts work, and it works. He also has a C300III for when he's really doing video.
This is just so disappointing... i have been waiting so long for the R6 and R5... I will wait for the new R cinema small form camera... but I really wanted something full frame 4k HQ for film making with my RF glass...Guess I will be left waiting for another year or so
I'm interested to see what Canon does with their RF cinema cameras, but I doubt they will have things like IBIS unfortunately.
Hi Matt, this is way indepth and as close to a real shoot as in real life. Thanks for taking the time to do this and I must commend the detail you so gracefully used that answered all questions I had instantly
Useful real-world tests, thanks!
Matt thank you so much for making this video!! I’m so done watching overheating test only about long shot! These are the kind of testing that people should do it because if a camera can offer a feature it must be done 100%. This is the reality no excuse! I really hope that Canon address these issues and fix it! Finger crossed!
Thank you! I hope you can do a similar review on the A7S3 since it does seem to be effected by outside temps. As a Florida wedding videographer, it's a huge consideration.
Planning on it! Texas weather is very similar to Florida's :)
Don't use 8k and limit 4k. 1080p is more than enough. Doing high quality video in camera is extensively expensive venture when you can just bump up the resolution in post.
Why not just shoot 1080p?
Couldn’t help it 😂 but your painting of you on the wall caught my eye! that is an awesome piece of art!
Best video on R5 and overheating that I've seen. Well done Matt.
Appreciate this - but I have several issues with the findings and commentary of this video. (Note: I got all my RF gear and expect to get my R5 in the next couple of days). 1. "Who buys this camera to shoot photos?" - Are you kidding me?!? It's got amazing face and animal tracking, fantastic IBIS (adding at least 3 stops), 40 MPs, and an amazing set of advanced lenses. Why would you NOT buy this to shoot still photos? It's sharpness, color fidelity and ease of operation are unbeatable. 2. "You shouldn't rely on this camera to shoot a full-day wedding". Agree, but no one would. If you want to shoot a full days video, why would you get a photo camera to the game? Rent a Canon XA50 or something like that. This is a photo camera with the added ability to shoot amazing quality bursts of video, or extended video in HD/30. Works fine for me.
Nice review as always Matt. Although the conclusion: "You can not rely on they video as a professional filmmaker" completely leaves out professional hybrid shooters who want to shoot excellent stills at 45mpx and 1080p 24p and 1080p 120fps at high mb/s. The R5 is a best of video production camera at those specs AND a beast of photography camera. Its just not an 8K RAW/4K HQ/4K60p production camera, and frankly, I don't know what kind of wedding videographer would be interested in shooting a wedding ceremony entirely in 8K Raw unless they were shooting with the C500mk ii before and felt there wasn't enough resolution! LOL! The 8K is a novelty for that special shot you really need to zoom in on. That's few and far in between. Best would be to dedicate one of the custom modes to 8K RAW, one to 4K60P, and the rest of the time stay at 4K 24 and 1080 120p. That's how I see it... but what do I know... I preordered two A7siii 's! LOL!
Really good review of this topic! As a big canon fan, I am honestly very disappointed with the company. I always compared it to an Iphone, which most if time had lower specs than it's competition but worked most of the times better overall. It seems like canon decided to change this strategy and they really totally messed up. Also after seeing the improved Sony a7s3 colors and menue there are really less and less reasons to stay with canon after 10 years.
Excellent perspective and explanation. I hope people get the practical view on this now and don't deceive themselves.
A wedding is one of the most demanding video filming task. Also remember tests you am have to do before the shoots
I'm still shooting weddings in 1920 by 1080. Honestly what attracts me more to the R5 or R6 is not the 4k or 8k modes, it's the IBIS! But I'm still going to wait a bit before getting the R6, which is the camera I'm looking into.
Very good testing, thank you. I wonder if you had the chance to try the s35-mode, which is oversampled 4K and not supposed to overheat. I know everybody is panning the R5 as a video tool, but if you think of it as a very good stills camera with a small c200 inside, I think it makes quite a lot o f sense (lack of reliable slo-mo notwithstanding). If the s35 4k turns out to be as reliable as the non HQ 4k, that is.
Nothing beats skill and talent. There are many wedding videos on RUclips now. Kinda short sited to think that EVERY wedding photographer shoots in the same exact way. A more accurate way of stating it, would be to say, YOU don't know how to use the camera without it overheating. Simple. Other people do however. Suggest conversing with your peers and see how they are doing it. The warning doesn't mean it's overheated at or past it's 104 F threshold. Get a FLIR or equal temp measuring device and stay within you published tolerances.
You need to make a video on why you are against using external recorders for shooting weddings (especially when you can’t have any memory cards in the camera as a back up). Also discuss why micro HDMI ports are super fragile and can break easily, especially in hectic wedding shoot days. People need to hear this.
I love that you get straight to the point. That settles it I'll wish I had enough money for an a7siii or something else instead of wishing I had it for an R5 :p
Yes at last! A test on cumulative shooting, where the shooter start/stops all the time. Your reviews are always top-notch and have integrity. Thanks for the clear heads up.....now what's Canon going to do about it?
brutally honest video.... glad i subscribed to this channel... btw m a canon fanboy and I dont think this video will trigger canon fanboy..
I wouldn't go to a wedding with only the R5 because of this issue. Having a backup (ideally identical to the main camera) is a must. The insulation and weather sealing probably traps heat. WHat happens when you leave the battery door and jack covers open? DO you think they should offer a detachable external heat sink? - Or expose some metal. Amplifiers and speakers have those. Come on! Is it a crazy idea?
Loving the R5 videos you’ve been putting out. This one earned my subscription. Thanks for sharing!
Matt.... at 9:52 that's exactly the point.... this is a Photography Camera 95% with some cool video specs..... that's it.... In the other hand we have the Sony A7Siii, which is a VIDEO camera 95% and photo 5%
Hey Pablo, I agree this is a great photography camera! Bit confused as to why Canon marketed this camera as a great choice for filmmakers as well. 8K isn't exactly for hobbyists....
@@whoismatt I absolutely agree with you, this is a huge marketing failure from Canon, they got carried away with the video hype that is dominating RUclips these days I think?.... maybe its because in the Photography side we have reached a certain level in which is harder to get massive improvements.... so its harder to sell a new "photography" camera.
Interesting addition:
- 4k60 works limitless with an external recorder.
- 4k30 HQ works limitless with an external recorder. :
Can you run around filming a wedding day with an external recorder? Honest question. I shoot all day on a gimbal and it just seems like it would way it down and throw off the balance. And just be a lot of weight and wires for all the quick shots you need to get on a wedding day
@@davindotcom just master the art of handheld 🤷♂️
This was a much needed test! Exceptionally comprehensive as always, Matt. It also makes me sad as someone who has invested so much in Canon (both in glass and in the 7D and 1D X Mark II). Now I’m looking at how to best adapt EF glass to the A7s III, and still retain AF performance in video 😔.
If you have Sigma lenses you can get them rehoused for relatively cheap. Otherwise I would look into selling your EF lenses and moving to native Sony if you want comparable AF in video.
Matt WhoisMatt Johnson thanks for the reply! I was afraid it would come to that haha.. perhaps it’s time. I was thinking of possibly going for a C200, but with the crazy amount of value the A7s III offers in that compact size, I don’t know if I can pass that up.
excellent video Matt!!!!! thanks for sharing. I am a SONY user, but i have seen that FOR PHOTO this camera is GREAT to be fair. Thanks for an extensive review!!!!! God bless
Best video on this camera, Canon should be ashamed of putting out a product like this! Go for the A7S Mark 3
All the Lumix users in the room smiling to themselves maliciously... insert Mr Burns voice... Excellent...
I hope Panasonic users are enjoying their popcorn 😂
@@whoismatt Oh we are! And hoping for a GH6 to be announced at some point? Time will tell. Awesome review, as always, Matt!
Christian Wilson which S1 do you use? The S1H is a beast!
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There are two ways to make it work.
In both cases, you will have to have at least two of them.
First way is to have one shooting always in 4K non HQ 30fps or lower and the other one only shooting the occasional 4K60p or 4K120p and then turned off immediately to cool down.
The other way is to have both cameras recording to an Atomos Ninja V, and switching cameras every two hours.
I could see swapping bodies, but then you would still need even more bodies for the wedding ceremony, because once you film even in 4K non HQ they will lose their ability to record any of the wedding reception in high frame rates.
If you go the Atomos route, you're looking at $10K for 2 bodies with recorders. 😅
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In scenario 1, you can shoot with camera a continuously at non HQ mode and the camera b will be switched on only to shoot the occasional shot at 60p or 120p only when it is necessary and then put to rest. I believe that unless you constantly shoot at 60p and 120p on camera b, you will be able to shoot a few 60p/120p shots and then have the camera rest for 15-20min before you touch it again so in practice you will be able to shoot for quite a while.
With scenario 2, you can get away with 2 bodies, and one recorder.Just swap the recorder from camera 1 to camera 2 when you have a long enough break.
Still an expensive way to do things but on the other hand, working with two bodies for redundancy was always a standard for unrepeatable events like weddings.
Welp this video was the final nail in the coffin. I just cancelled my order and I died a little inside. I’m a wedding videographer on Maui and the R5 just won’t work. I wanted this camera to be good so bad, I know I should just switch to Sony but I have invested way too much in canon glass to make the switch. Thanks for the video though Matt it was exactly what I needed to hear even though it made me cry.
5:27 Ah, the old reliable FS700- 240 fps @ 1080, internal NDs, 2 XLR ports, battery life for hours, no record limit, great compression/file sizes, no overheating in any circumstance all packed into a reliable nearly indestructible body. I still run mine at every wedding as a static unmanned cam. Drastically underrated for the features.
Actually, on closer inspection it appears to be the 100. But the same still applies except for 240 and NDs.
Haha yup just the fs100. I bought it before the fs700 came out. They are both great cameras. Weird to think the a7siii now shoots 240fps
Ever since the 8k was announced on this camera, my thought was "I'm never going to use this, but I'm looking forward to what that means for the 4k capabilities!"
Well that made my mind up. I will not be buying this camera. I think I may go with the C70, even though it’s a couple thousand more. The cinema line cameras don’t over heat and I have filmed a few weddings already with the c100 mark ii that I rented over and over again. I’m really looking forward to OWNING(for the first time) a camera that’s not too heavy, has built in ND filters, can film in 4K 60 and not over heat! You are probs my favorite reviewer Matt! Thank you!
Wow! I was looking at the Canon R5 and then I noticed that we live in the same city! So wild to know there is someone in Kyle doing such great work. Definitely going to sub.
Since my tripod doesn't pan as smoothly as I like, I leave the stabilization on. It at least eliminates the jerks and allows me to gently carry the tripod and move while ensuring continuous recording. This overheating issue seems to be endless! Just film in 1080p LOL.
Thank you, Matt! This is the real life test of the R5 we needed!
Holy crap! This was a fantastic test and video. Thanks man. Love the channel.
Hi matt, interesting test, i just got an r5 to test - new firmware - and i have 4k 60 all-i only available on cfexpress card , and same but IPB on sd card. tomorrow i'll get a Cfexpress and i'm curious to test the time to overheat 4k120 and 4k 60 HQ, beside 8k wich is less relevant anyway. thanks. keep going
The overheating issue on the R5 has been recently solved by recording to an external recorder (i.e. Ninja V) instead directly to the internal SD cards. Apparently this gives you around 4 hours of continuous 4k HQ mode and faster recovery time as well.
So When I spend $4k on a camera I still have to spend another grand just to get it to work? Why wouldn't I just buy a different camera?
@@Westwardeast even if u tack on another $1k for an external recorder, what other camera will give u what the R5 can for both stills and video?
Sony As7iii? Only good for video
Panasonic GH5 or S1H? Autofocus sucks
@@jtdiddy3160 if you are buying this camera and setting it up with an external recorder then there is a super slim chance that you are an entry-level creator or you do just as much photo as you do video. If you actually need the 4K 120 or HQ and a 45MP censor you hands down have a stills centric camera and a film-centric rig.
@@Westwardeast i'm stepping up from a Canon M50 and I consider myself a beginner still. But I have the Ninja V bc i wanted to maximize the features of the R5 or As7iii. I haven't decided yet which one I'm getting
@@jtdiddy3160 Man the best advice I can give you as someone who is a professional and self-taught is to not waste your money on either of those cameras!!! I say that with serious care for you. Spend your money on something like the GH5, the X-T4, or A7III. Specs and numbers do little for you in the real commercial world if you don't have the experience to use them. I'm sure you are a talented person but invest in glass and learning the craft. No R5 or A7SIII is going to get you paid or make you a better filmmaker or photographer.
Invest in yourself, not a camera body! I run an inhouse media dept with two A7III and have written $10k contracts with very happy clients at the end, all with an A7III and a sigma 35.
thank you. had been wondering how it would do in short bursts. and this is pretty much what i expected. keep up the good work!
Thanks Jason!
Fantastic review as always and straight to the point. As a Wedding photographer does the R5 overheat just taking photos???.
2 to 3 thousand images and more on a typical day.
Great testing! Another problem is the inability to record video to both cards at the same time, which can be a big deal for a wedding.
Finally the review I've been waiting for. Thank you
Great Video i have a wedding coming up. You spoke all facts!!! but I def love 8k its all I've been shooting lol
Hey Matt WhoisMatt Johnson! I just bought the Canon R6 and did some 1080p and 4K testing.. No overheating with firmware 1.2.0. None. I ran out of memory before I could get it to overheat. LOL Need more memory -- which 170mb/s can handle anything out of the R6. Also I'm able to use both card slots for video -- someone told me that was 'locked' in the previous firmware versions?
So is this pretty much the case with all hybrid cameras to date? I'd like to shoot a wedding this way with my xt4, but I also know that's probably asking for trouble, unless I go down to 1080p. I'd still be curious to see how it compares heat wise. Seems like we need a big breakthrough in either heat dissipation or having the cameras produce less heat. It has to happen eventually, right?
Thanks for the honest and to the point spot on review. Albeit it’s a great camera, great ecosystem, this answers questions I had. Sony A7Siii for me but not knocking the R5 either👍
Awesome video, thank you Matt! This is exactly the sort of comprehensive review of the overheating issue I wanted to see and you delivered! I look forward to your review of the Sony a7siii when it comes out :)
No question that Canon went about the marketing for this camera poorly but as a professional in my business having at least two of everything has always been my motto. Nothing else in this form factor will do the high quality options the R5 does. Either get two R5’s or the A7Siii for its 4k30/60/120 and to save having to buy Sony lenses use an EF adaptor for canon glass and use the R5 for stills, 4K HQ with an external recorder and 8K internal for video with option of 35MP still frame grabs. Not to mention incredible IBIS. Realistically nobody needs all this but why not offer what it can do. Minus lens costs your in 9 grand for both bodies. It’s not chump change but it’s your business and you can bill appropriately for offering the best quality images (skill aside:) This is a pro piece of gear doing things others can’t at the moment with obvious limitations based on spec. If we want the best for our clients these are the limitations of our time. We are either a professional or we are not.
Thanks for testing and sharing the results
For me, overheating isn't the biggest issue, but rather the downtime and inability to use the camera. That clock quietly counting down in the background would give me great anxiety, and require scheduling my time around what the camera may or may not do. Yuck.
Exactly Todd, the recovery time is the real killer here.
best review!
I'm in a great dilemma: I have a 5D Mark 4 and a 6D Mark 1. I need and upgrade for a camera capable of 4K 60fps (120 would be ideal, but 60 can solve my needs). As a long time canon user, I'm been thinking about the R6 or R5, but the overheating problem made me stop and take the time to think about my options. Sony would be the obviously choice, but all my lenses are Canon and I intent to keep the 5d Mark 4 as my main photo camera and second video camera, so more money for glass. Blackmagic 6k Pro would be my other option, but it lacks a good autofocus and pictures. Dilemmas, dilemmas...
Love getting crucial answers within 45 seconds. Thanks!
Thanks for your honesty sometimes that's hard to find
Matt!! Can we get a video of you talking about the R5C? It seems to be the camera that fixed all the issues you describe in this video. But I would love to see it actually put to the test!
In a wedding the only think in control can be your gear and when you mind is all over it , good luck with the wedding
I feel like Canon can take off this internal timer and film way longer than advertised. It seems like it can handle a lot more than it lets you. I pray that with an update it fixes it and unlocks its full potential.
We can hope that is the case. I will say the camera does warm up to around 100F when overheating. It's warm to hold, and I can see Canon not wanting it to get much warmer before shutting it off.
My concern would be that even if the limits are taken off, what would all that overheating do to the sensor and other internal components over time? I imagine it would significantly shorten the lifespan of this camera. Can you imagine the camera just going completely dead on you during an event? 1 year into purchasing? 2 years? I would be crushed. I've been using a GH5 for years now and it's still going very strong. Reliability, to me, is way more important that top end specs.
They know more than us. Perhaps they are avoiding long term sensor damage
@@philipbloom but sony has no long term damage when recording blazing hot , right 😁
The temp range I’ve witnessed every time on both of my R5’s is 112 degrees Fahrenheit, then it shuts off.