READ THIS BEFORE COMMENTING: Due to a massive influx of many of the same questions and overall responses, this comment is towards most of them: 1. Why was I standing so close to the edge? Its not a straightforward answer I can give you but.. It does look like im very close however I know what im getting myself into. Though a majority of the times I use my tripod to do close whots while im at a distance but as seeing my first time doing this had the chance of a train separating right in front of me, it shook me up a bit that left me with a slight bit of paranoia to not do this again. 2. Was the separation intentional? No.. Seriously? Why are you thinking it would be, no offense but please use your brain. If you're thinking it was tampered the last time it went into emergency, no it wasn't, CN 148 ran a red signal even though they were cleared to pass it. As well, who the hell is going to travel to the middle of nowhere, potentially on a single track bridge just to mess the train up? It was simply either a defective car, or misaligned couplers known as "High/Low Couplers". As far as I know, they went into emergency again a few miles after they started up again, so it might just be a defective car. 3. Did I cause the separation? Again, use your brain and analyze the situation properly instead of immediately finalizing a narrative, you have brain so use it. Case in point, no I did not cause this, I was simply just out catching trains. I had no idea this would happen, let alone in front of me. 4. Why didn't you film more/Why did you not get more detail Oh for fucks sake.. I WAS SHAKEN UP, It didn't sound like I was but internally it did something. Also, I was initially ready to call it a day after CN 148 & CN 301 left, however this happened. 5. How did I know it went into emergency? My friend has a scanner and we heard from the crew of 148 about an hour earlier that they went into emergency. Its not a coincidence, we simply heard it from the scanner itself. 6. Am I on public or private property? Im on public property, im on the far west side of the station platform which gives the illusion that im on private property (CN property).
#1 change the title. the train didn't suffer a broken knuckle. the pin attached to the cut lever sheered off from excess bouncing and major in train forces, which is why it happened at the rear 3 cars, basically the came uncoupled. #2 don't worry about silly people who don't have a clue. as a railroader I immediately recognized this, and know that you didn't do it. Ignore the haters.. #3 don't get so close, it makes us nervous and we really don't want anyone getting hurt or killed.. otherwise it's a cool video
one more question which probably a few people are thinking... when the air-hose breaks that locks the breaks to maximum... right? if so, what do such that the train can move again? how long does the system take to refill...
You're lucky that busted knuckle didn't fly up and take your head off. Years ago, I was the second car stopped behind a truck camper at a UPRR level crossing in Manchaca, Texas as a hotshot intermodal roared through northbound. I suddenly heard the air dump followed by a godawful clanging and banging beneath the railcar approaching the crossing. Apparently the knuckle broke, fell under the leading truck set and was ricocheting between the track bed and the bottom of the car, accompanied by a shower of red sparks. Just as the rail car hit the crossing, the loose knuckle was struck by a wheel and popped out like a greased manhole cover, striking the side of the pickup truck ahead of me and leaving a basketball sized hole through both sides of the truck camper. Fortunately nobody was in it. Needless to say, I don't pull all the way up to the crossing gate anymore.
That was a freak, but still that sudden release of air pressure means bad shit is happening to the train so it is a good idea to have an escape already in mind and use it, making sure to look in the direction from which the train is coming.
Train separations happen all the time especially when dealing with long freight cars like autoracks that have long drawheads. Seeing that this happened at the rear of the train it most more than likely was a defective cut leaver that jerked or popped up when the slack ran in from the rear of the train which has the least amount of resentence.
No wrong all most never happens. Opening by it self. I has 3 in over 10 years. Broken knuckle 1 about every 3 month 99% had a previous partial cracking or brake. Had 1 draw bar pull out, old damage from years of hard service .
@@KaiHenningsen If Precision Railroading had been a to return to high service standards and scheduled operations, the railways would be hauling a lot more freight, profitably!
Back in the mid 70s, I was on a CN passenger train that came apart in the middle of nowhere, in Northern Ontario. The couplers didn't break, but the steam pipe did. We were on our way again shortly, but without heat in the middle of winter!
Back in the mid 70s, when I worked for CN Telecommunications in Northern Ontario, I would frequently hop on and off moving freights, as I was taking the train somewhere and the engineer didn't want to come to a full stop if he didn't have to.
DUE TO RECENT EVENTS: No I or my friend with me DID NOT cause the split, the train split way before it reached the platform, and also this train was travelling around 50 MPH, you seriously think I would attempt to derail the train at such speeds or even derail it at all? Lastly, as said in the video, the train had problems before it arrived through here.
Came here to make a silly comment about that. But that's a serious issue for the railfan community now - every time an incident is caught on camera now, sabotage by the one with the camera will be on everyone's mind.
Also, going to make this clear before more and more dummies come in and bash GR. It should make sense that there would be no way this was a setup. Train couplers are strong, but not strong as intended. As seen in the video, the "clamp" used to fully hook on to another coupler fully snapped off, possibly due to alot of wear and tear on the coupler. Also it also could be how rough the track may be as well, but no human activity was in this incident.
Did anyone else notice the cut lever has broken away from the bottom of the coupler and pin linkage is missing from under the coupler? Probably what caused the pin to get pulled and release the knuckle to open up. The car is clearly defective and should have been setout instead of having multiple separations.
Wow man. Talk about being in the right place at the right time for footage. I honestly would've lost my composure being that close to an emergency application. Tall tail sign of knowing a train is in emergency is that air dump you heard. If you hear that no need to wait for the scanner you will just know. I saw your comment from a couple months ago about what some are saying. All I have to say is well screw them. Again, great footage and great catch. Got a subsciption from me.
In the early 1970s, I heard the derailment as it occurred. By the time I reached a point where I could witness it, dust was still lingering in the air. This experience, coupled with knowing a Norfolk Southern brakeman who nearly lost an eye due to a "hot box" on a passing train, has taught me to keep a safe distance from moving trains. I'm even cautious about being near trains when stopped at a highway crossing.
It sounds like you could hear the air release of the emergency brakes engaging about three cars before the split got to your camera, so it really did happen just about right next to you. That had to have been something to experience! Convenient that 301 was right there to give the conductor a ride. :)
@@GamingRailfanner They where reallly lucky that this first attempt didn't caused a damage! The task of the guy watching the coupling should be slightly more than just looking. He should have seen that the couplings wheren't aligned and should let the train stopp before touching and then align the couplings. The coupling took place at a straight peace of the line, it should make no problems at this spot.
@@weylinwest9505 Might be referring to a similar incident with a CSX coal train, caught on video by 'Milleniumforce' about 11 years ago: ruclips.net/video/jB_pB7lDDpI/видео.htmlsi=7nrHLog4uqwApfuD It's got a bit over 3 million views in that time, so a decent number of railfans remember it.
Line of road failure, the operation lever on the orange car is missing, the knuckle is still there or the crew would have to of brought one from the engine or rapid responder would have to come out and fix it, without hands on inspection probably the lock lifter wore out and broke crossing the op lever to fall then get ripped off
Once I was on Kidderminster station UK waiting for a train to go work in Worcester. A passenger train pulled into the other platform heading to Birmingham, when it set off again it left two carriages behind. About 5 minutes later the front of the train came back to collect the lost carriages.
I had this happen literally as I was sitting at the crossing waiting. My gf looked at me and said "is that supposed to happen?" MY reply was "ummm, NO!"😅
I would say the odds are a little less than that. Just guessing this guy hasn't even seen a billion trains. Probably also guessing a billion trains haven't ran during the time he has been alive. 😂
@@ThePaulv12 Yeah, tell yourself that he was lucky enough to catch a one in a billion chance. 😂 You do realize how impossible that is, right? So, it wasn't one in a billion. That is like somebody rolling 10 six sided dice and having them all land on the same number, and when you see it go, wow there was a one in a billion chance of that happening. No, not even close to one in a billion. 😂😂 Just because you don't see something much doesn't automatically make it one in a billion.
@@DavidWalton-g8w You really do not understand how probability works. A one-in-a-billion chance is unlikely but not impossible. Our understanding of quantum physics tells us that it's possible your body could spontaneously just drop through the Earth. The odds are very high against that, but the chance of it happening is not zero. Nuclear decay is an excellent lesson on probability. Radioactive elements decay from one element to another. The moment any single atom decays is chaotic and impossible to predict, but the time it takes an entire sample to decay is known to be usually consistent. Just because a probability appears "smeared" does not mean it does not exist.
What are the odds that this would happen right in front of you as you're railfanning! 😅 Amazing luck, thanks for sharing it with us! And glad that it wasn't too much of an inconvenience for the railroad too.
An engineer can normally tell where emergency application came from. The rear pressure on EOT device reads on headend and if it goes to zero and takes a long time to blow up front then problem is in rear somewhere. Sudden air loss moves at 900ft per second.
The knuckle is a deliberate weak-link holding the cars together. Sometimes the entire coupler draw-bar comes out of the receptacle, what railroaders called "pulling the end out" of a car. If that happens at speed then there will not only be a derailment but a train wreck. When I worked for the railroad it wasn't that the train "split," but "broke-in two" or "parted." Be careful rail-fanning. Always have a plan of action should cars fall of the rails. Be aware that sometimes a load on a flat-car will shift, or a steel banding-strap come loose and be like a sword hanging off the side of a car.
The plan is to stay away from the tracks, especially from trains with a good amount of speed. If "cars fall off the rails" or debris gets thrown at you, you will not have the time to realize it, let alone duck or run away. Almost every railroad-related injury is preventable. So, you know, prevent it.
@BritishBeachcomber We don't have time for small trains when we need cargo from one end of the continent over 2,500 miles away. Well over 7000 of these 1-3 mile long trains run in the U.S and Canada daily without issue.
You got lucky that happening right next to you. Kinda strange the knuckle didn’t break, maybe the pin didn’t fully drop down when the train was being built and it just happened to open at that spot, who knows. Great catch👍🏼🇺🇸😎🪝
It does. You can actually hear that if you listen carefully about three cars before the split gets to his camera; there's a sound of a puff of air which I think is the brake mechanism on the car applying.
You can hear it happen at 0:59. It's a bit more complicated than this, but in simple terms *air pressure = released brakes* on a train. When the air line is disturbed, the brakes activate. When the air line pressure drops fast enough, "emergency brakes" activate.
Thanks to capitol city rail productions now every time a inconvenience happens on a train & when a railfan or a person records they are going to think the person recording did it.
how quickly does the engineer find out about an event like this on a train? Like if you see it in a place with a posted phone number like that dispatch number on RR crossings is this something a railfan or bystander should call the RR about? I would assume the end of train device at the back of the train sends a an "Oh Frack" signal to the cab.
Whether it's an end of train device, or a DPU you know immediately what happens. As soon as the brake pipe between the cars, aka air hose separate all air pressure is lost automatically applying emergency braking on both sections of the train. the only thing we don't is if the train derailed or just separated in two.. because in both cases the automatic brakes go into emergency
@@filanfyretracker there's an air line running the length of the train, keeping the brakes open. When a split happens, that line gets cut which dumps the air, causing all the brakes across the whole train to apply full braking force. So the engineer knows immediately.
The engineer knows immediately thanks to how the brakes on a train operate. Train brakes work basically the exact opposite of how the brakes of most road vehicles work. On the latter, the breaks aren't engaged as the standard, and you have to apply them via the use of a hydraulic mechanism. Train brakes are the exact opposite in that the brakes are always applies as the standard and in order to be able to move the train, you have to release the breaks via the use of a hydraulic mechanism, in most cases through the use of compressed air. Trains have an air hose that runs the entire length of the train and the engineer can see the air pressure, and in order to be able to release the brakes, he has to apply air pressure to release the brakes. If the hose gets separated for whatever reason, the air pressure will reach atmospheric pressure for obvious reasons and the brakes will be applied automatically since that's their standard setting. The engineer sees immediately that he's losing air pressure and that the brakes have been applied, so he knows that something has happened. In the video, you can hear a distinct "pffft" sound right after the train separated, that was the sound of the brakes being applied after losing air pressure.
@@filanfyretracker Of course they know. trains have a 90 psi brake pipe, aka rubber hose between cars running the length of the train. engineers will see all pressure readings on gauges or a screen in front of him. If for any reason the 90 psi goes to 0 psi.. the air loss of the brake pipe allows the reservoir tanks on all cars to dump air into brake pistons automatically putting the train into emergency..this includes the engines which need to be bailed off to avoid jacknifing
Doesn't anybody notice that as the train is pulling away from the so-called broken coupler that it has red flashing light on it, and 30 minutes seams all full quick to repair the coupler.
Looking at these knuckles... Such things barely exist anywhere across the world ESPECIALLY NOT on freight trains! I live in the Netherlands and the only place where I've seen such knuckles are on miniature model trains... American railroad standards are unbelievably low. If such a thing happened in western European countries, the track would have to be blocked entirely, inspection would have to come around and everything would have to be checked in extreme detail about how this could have happened. The train would have no allowance to drive on like this, the problem would be fixed temporary to clear the tracks but most likely entire types of cars would be taken out of service preventively to investigate their reliability.
Holy crap they sure do let you get up close in the USA. Where I live there'd be several additional marking lines on the platform to indicate a 'safe distance' from the platform where you wait for trains to prevent the wind caused by the moving train to make someone stumble and fall. Glad that didn't happen here. But yes, don't get too close to the trains. They're dangerous.
Crazy how people saying “did you cause this” like you could have just said “the hell with physics” but all jokes aside I can see why people are questioning the situation due to what happen with that one foamer
Now come all the stupid questions to the crew. What was your speed and throttle notch? Was your train ascending or descending? What color socks are you wearing? Management’s way to pin blame on the crew for EVERYTHING.
Well I could actually give the answer Their speed was about 50 MPH, the train was mainly descending with the back end still climbing a bit- Wait.. coloured socks?? 😂
@@GamingRailfanner Management doesn’t care about facts when they’re passing blame. They ask their questions and the crew waits for the Hearing and Investigation paperwork in the mail regardless of the facts.
READ THIS BEFORE COMMENTING: Due to a massive influx of many of the same questions and overall responses, this comment is towards most of them:
1. Why was I standing so close to the edge?
Its not a straightforward answer I can give you but.. It does look like im very close however I know what im getting myself into. Though a majority of the times I use my tripod to do close whots while im at a distance but as seeing my first time doing this had the chance of a train separating right in front of me, it shook me up a bit that left me with a slight bit of paranoia to not do this again.
2. Was the separation intentional?
No.. Seriously? Why are you thinking it would be, no offense but please use your brain. If you're thinking it was tampered the last time it went into emergency, no it wasn't, CN 148 ran a red signal even though they were cleared to pass it. As well, who the hell is going to travel to the middle of nowhere, potentially on a single track bridge just to mess the train up? It was simply either a defective car, or misaligned couplers known as "High/Low Couplers". As far as I know, they went into emergency again a few miles after they started up again, so it might just be a defective car.
3. Did I cause the separation?
Again, use your brain and analyze the situation properly instead of immediately finalizing a narrative, you have brain so use it. Case in point, no I did not cause this, I was simply just out catching trains. I had no idea this would happen, let alone in front of me.
4. Why didn't you film more/Why did you not get more detail
Oh for fucks sake.. I WAS SHAKEN UP, It didn't sound like I was but internally it did something. Also, I was initially ready to call it a day after CN 148 & CN 301 left, however this happened.
5. How did I know it went into emergency?
My friend has a scanner and we heard from the crew of 148 about an hour earlier that they went into emergency. Its not a coincidence, we simply heard it from the scanner itself.
6. Am I on public or private property?
Im on public property, im on the far west side of the station platform which gives the illusion that im on private property (CN property).
i formally accuse you of using the infinity gauntlet to summon a split in your vacinity 😸
Comments are stupid fr
How can you even decouple a train without being on it 💀
#1 change the title. the train didn't suffer a broken knuckle. the pin attached to the cut lever sheered off from excess bouncing and major in train forces, which is why it happened at the rear 3 cars, basically the came uncoupled. #2 don't worry about silly people who don't have a clue. as a railroader I immediately recognized this, and know that you didn't do it. Ignore the haters.. #3 don't get so close, it makes us nervous and we really don't want anyone getting hurt or killed.. otherwise it's a cool video
@@NS1221Productions You have to concentrate really hard and wish for it really hard.
one more question which probably a few people are thinking...
when the air-hose breaks that locks the breaks to maximum... right? if so, what do such that the train can move again? how long does the system take to refill...
Perfect demonstration of how the Westinghouse automatic brake works.
The automatic through-air brake did exactly what it is designed to do and has been the same for many years.
You're lucky that busted knuckle didn't fly up and take your head off. Years ago, I was the second car stopped behind a truck camper at a UPRR level crossing in Manchaca, Texas as a hotshot intermodal roared through northbound. I suddenly heard the air dump followed by a godawful clanging and banging beneath the railcar approaching the crossing. Apparently the knuckle broke, fell under the leading truck set and was ricocheting between the track bed and the bottom of the car, accompanied by a shower of red sparks. Just as the rail car hit the crossing, the loose knuckle was struck by a wheel and popped out like a greased manhole cover, striking the side of the pickup truck ahead of me and leaving a basketball sized hole through both sides of the truck camper. Fortunately nobody was in it. Needless to say, I don't pull all the way up to the crossing gate anymore.
Well this video wouldn't be made if I wasn't lucky, hell my latest video would probably bet my last. But notably it did shake me up a bit.
what busted knuckle?
That was a freak, but still that sudden release of air pressure means bad shit is happening to the train so it is a good idea to have an escape already in mind and use it, making sure to look in the direction from which the train is coming.
@@Franklin-jj4jz I thought the same thing
If a piece of metal flies off you are toast
😂😂😂DAM!!!
Train separations happen all the time especially when dealing with long freight cars like autoracks that have long drawheads. Seeing that this happened at the rear of the train it most more than likely was a defective cut leaver that jerked or popped up when the slack ran in from the rear of the train which has the least amount of resentence.
No wrong all most never happens. Opening by it self. I has 3 in over 10 years. Broken knuckle 1 about every 3 month 99% had a previous partial cracking or brake. Had 1 draw bar pull out, old damage from years of hard service .
This exact train broke a knuckle few hours later at Humber
@@kryptotransit Precision Railroading at it's best!
@@eatonjask I wish that term was about the railroading part, not about the marketing-to-customers part. And meant honestly.
@@KaiHenningsen If Precision Railroading had been a to return to high service standards and scheduled operations, the railways would be hauling a lot more freight, profitably!
@@KaiHenningsen It wasn't even marketing to customers - many of the customers left because of it. It was marketing to investors only
@@kryptotransit Two on the same train? Either they're way overloaded or those cars are not in road-worthy condition.
Talk about time and place, man that’s incredible! What a catch!
Great shooting angle. You really get the full effect of the speed. Fantastic catch of the coupler break.
Back in the mid 70s, I was on a CN passenger train that came apart in the middle of nowhere, in Northern Ontario. The couplers didn't break, but the steam pipe did. We were on our way again shortly, but without heat in the middle of winter!
I used to get paid to stand that close to a moving train when I worked on the CN. Now I maintain a good distance between a moving train and myself.
Back in the mid 70s, when I worked for CN Telecommunications in Northern Ontario, I would frequently hop on and off moving freights, as I was taking the train somewhere and the engineer didn't want to come to a full stop if he didn't have to.
@@jamesblunt942 they are literally on a platform for pedestrians , it's probably the camera on the tripod anyway
One crew member to replace a knuckle is asking for trouble, it's why RYs insist that new hires can lift a knuckle by themselves...
DUE TO RECENT EVENTS: No I or my friend with me DID NOT cause the split, the train split way before it reached the platform, and also this train was travelling around 50 MPH, you seriously think I would attempt to derail the train at such speeds or even derail it at all?
Lastly, as said in the video, the train had problems before it arrived through here.
@@GamingRailfanner keep in mind that the couplers were in marginal condition and could've fallen off at some point.
Unfortunately due to the situation in Nebraska involving a kid derailing a train, anyone can assume that I caused this, so I had to put this out.
Im so sory to here that
@@GamingRailfanneryeah don't be that guy
Came here to make a silly comment about that. But that's a serious issue for the railfan community now - every time an incident is caught on camera now, sabotage by the one with the camera will be on everyone's mind.
Also, going to make this clear before more and more dummies come in and bash GR.
It should make sense that there would be no way this was a setup. Train couplers are strong, but not strong as intended. As seen in the video, the "clamp" used to fully hook on to another coupler fully snapped off, possibly due to alot of wear and tear on the coupler. Also it also could be how rough the track may be as well, but no human activity was in this incident.
That’s Crazy How It Happened Right Here! Feel Bad For Crew. Awesome Catch btw. :D
So pleased you guys weren’t injured, but what a great close up catch too.
Awesome videoing and I loved the angles….
Did anyone else notice the cut lever has broken away from the bottom of the coupler and pin linkage is missing from under the coupler? Probably what caused the pin to get pulled and release the knuckle to open up. The car is clearly defective and should have been setout instead of having multiple separations.
Yep. My railroad eyes caught that.
They probably saw it as well and set it out when it arrived at its destination
Good catch, events like this don't happen too often and even less get caught on camera so it's pretty cool you got a video of it.
She is MOVING!!!! Great catch!
Sharp eye on that catch! Stay safe out there bud!✌️
Wow ! How lucky was that to have that happen right where you were ! Great capture !! James.
Wow man. Talk about being in the right place at the right time for footage. I honestly would've lost my composure being that close to an emergency application. Tall tail sign of knowing a train is in emergency is that air dump you heard. If you hear that no need to wait for the scanner you will just know. I saw your comment from a couple months ago about what some are saying. All I have to say is well screw them. Again, great footage and great catch. Got a subsciption from me.
Well, this was definitely very interesting. I’m glad I was with you to see it.
That train delivered some cargo in the space of the platform.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
In the early 1970s, I heard the derailment as it occurred. By the time I reached a point where I could witness it, dust was still lingering in the air. This experience, coupled with knowing a Norfolk Southern brakeman who nearly lost an eye due to a "hot box" on a passing train, has taught me to keep a safe distance from moving trains. I'm even cautious about being near trains when stopped at a highway crossing.
Back in 80's the rotorary draw heads would break using the automatic.
It sounds like you could hear the air release of the emergency brakes engaging about three cars before the split got to your camera, so it really did happen just about right next to you. That had to have been something to experience!
Convenient that 301 was right there to give the conductor a ride. :)
4:15 I see when they coupled the one car wobbled because it was a rough couple. So what is the max couple speed for freight trains?
On autoracks it’s 4 mph
The couplers were misaligned when they tried recouping the first time
@@cjstrainsandadventures2124 5 miles per hour
Thank you!
@@GamingRailfanner They where reallly lucky that this first attempt didn't caused a damage!
The task of the guy watching the coupling should be slightly more than just looking. He should have seen that the couplings wheren't aligned and should let the train stopp before touching and then align the couplings.
The coupling took place at a straight peace of the line, it should make no problems at this spot.
CSX coal knuckle break: Canadian Edition.
Oh shit..
knuckle break?
Source please.
@@weylinwest9505 Might be referring to a similar incident with a CSX coal train, caught on video by 'Milleniumforce' about 11 years ago: ruclips.net/video/jB_pB7lDDpI/видео.htmlsi=7nrHLog4uqwApfuD
It's got a bit over 3 million views in that time, so a decent number of railfans remember it.
man, i havent thought about that video in years
Line of road failure, the operation lever on the orange car is missing, the knuckle is still there or the crew would have to of brought one from the engine or rapid responder would have to come out and fix it, without hands on inspection probably the lock lifter wore out and broke crossing the op lever to fall then get ripped off
I wish I could pin this to get the conspiracy theorists pissed off because some of these people in the comments need to see the blue sky and sunshine.
Once I was on Kidderminster station UK waiting for a train to go work in Worcester. A passenger train pulled into the other platform heading to Birmingham, when it set off again it left two carriages behind. About 5 minutes later the front of the train came back to collect the lost carriages.
I had this happen literally as I was sitting at the crossing waiting. My gf looked at me and said "is that supposed to happen?" MY reply was "ummm, NO!"😅
Woah! Talk about Up Close and Personal!
Kinda cool you caught the track/tie? replacer in the last few moments of the video.
Of all the trains I love watching the maintenance ones.
3:09 Tanker cars are giggling...
The train splitting in 2 right in front of You, that's like a 1 in a billion chance! Great catch!
I would say the odds are a little less than that.
Just guessing this guy hasn't even seen a billion trains. Probably also guessing a billion trains haven't ran during the time he has been alive. 😂
@@DavidWalton-g8w He doesn't need to. That's not how probability works - it could happen anywhere in the 1 billion number set.
@@ThePaulv12 Yeah, tell yourself that he was lucky enough to catch a one in a billion chance. 😂
You do realize how impossible that is, right? So, it wasn't one in a billion.
That is like somebody rolling 10 six sided dice and having them all land on the same number, and when you see it go, wow there was a one in a billion chance of that happening. No, not even close to one in a billion. 😂😂 Just because you don't see something much doesn't automatically make it one in a billion.
@@DavidWalton-g8w You really do not understand how probability works. A one-in-a-billion chance is unlikely but not impossible. Our understanding of quantum physics tells us that it's possible your body could spontaneously just drop through the Earth. The odds are very high against that, but the chance of it happening is not zero.
Nuclear decay is an excellent lesson on probability. Radioactive elements decay from one element to another. The moment any single atom decays is chaotic and impossible to predict, but the time it takes an entire sample to decay is known to be usually consistent. Just because a probability appears "smeared" does not mean it does not exist.
That is terrifying being so so close to the train seeing cars off to a passenger stop on their own 🫣
What are the odds that this would happen right in front of you as you're railfanning! 😅 Amazing luck, thanks for sharing it with us! And glad that it wasn't too much of an inconvenience for the railroad too.
An engineer can normally tell where emergency application came from. The rear pressure on EOT device reads on headend and if it goes to zero and takes a long time to blow up front then problem is in rear somewhere. Sudden air loss moves at 900ft per second.
Bro wtf is wrong with people for thinking you caused it
You need to research how stupid and gullible people actually are.
The knuckle is a deliberate weak-link holding the cars together. Sometimes the entire coupler draw-bar comes out of the receptacle, what railroaders called "pulling the end out" of a car. If that happens at speed then there will not only be a derailment but a train wreck.
When I worked for the railroad it wasn't that the train "split," but "broke-in two" or "parted."
Be careful rail-fanning. Always have a plan of action should cars fall of the rails. Be aware that sometimes a load on a flat-car will shift, or a steel banding-strap come loose and be like a sword hanging off the side of a car.
The plan is to stay away from the tracks, especially from trains with a good amount of speed. If "cars fall off the rails" or debris gets thrown at you, you will not have the time to realize it, let alone duck or run away. Almost every railroad-related injury is preventable. So, you know, prevent it.
@@jovetj Good advice.
Nice Catch, you were in the right place
The joys of almost dying a few times in your 20's and burying friends in their 30's before you really begin to prioritize.
Great catch! I've only heard of that but never got to see it in action.
The UK taught the US how to build trains. But you just went ahead and pushed the limits. No surprise that they break.
@BritishBeachcomber We don't have time for small trains when we need cargo from one end of the continent over 2,500 miles away. Well over 7000 of these 1-3 mile long trains run in the U.S and Canada daily without issue.
You got lucky that happening right next to you. Kinda strange the knuckle didn’t break, maybe the pin didn’t fully drop down when the train was being built and it just happened to open at that spot, who knows. Great catch👍🏼🇺🇸😎🪝
This video is the epitome of "dumb luck and dumber camera angles"
When the air lines separate, doesn't that send an emergency brake signal to stop?
Yes
It does. You can actually hear that if you listen carefully about three cars before the split gets to his camera; there's a sound of a puff of air which I think is the brake mechanism on the car applying.
You can hear it happen at 0:59.
It's a bit more complicated than this, but in simple terms *air pressure = released brakes* on a train. When the air line is disturbed, the brakes activate. When the air line pressure drops fast enough, "emergency brakes" activate.
The intro of the horn scared me...
Right place at the right time. Nice...
I have seen trains go into emergency so many times
Yeah, but GR caught it on video.
What kind of a train and train bed was that at the very end?
Nice catch! Too bad you didn't have the scanner audio at the beginning of the incident as well.
Thanks to capitol city rail productions now every time a inconvenience happens on a train & when a railfan or a person records they are going to think the person recording did it.
And people think chocolate milk comes from brown cows. Don't worry about what stupid people think.
Exactly
The cow scenario is crazy 💀
Emergency brake application at 0:59. A close up of the coupler would have been very useful.
how quickly does the engineer find out about an event like this on a train? Like if you see it in a place with a posted phone number like that dispatch number on RR crossings is this something a railfan or bystander should call the RR about? I would assume the end of train device at the back of the train sends a an "Oh Frack" signal to the cab.
Whether it's an end of train device, or a DPU you know immediately what happens. As soon as the brake pipe between the cars, aka air hose separate all air pressure is lost automatically applying emergency braking on both sections of the train. the only thing we don't is if the train derailed or just separated in two.. because in both cases the automatic brakes go into emergency
@@filanfyretracker there's an air line running the length of the train, keeping the brakes open. When a split happens, that line gets cut which dumps the air, causing all the brakes across the whole train to apply full braking force. So the engineer knows immediately.
The engineer knows immediately thanks to how the brakes on a train operate. Train brakes work basically the exact opposite of how the brakes of most road vehicles work. On the latter, the breaks aren't engaged as the standard, and you have to apply them via the use of a hydraulic mechanism. Train brakes are the exact opposite in that the brakes are always applies as the standard and in order to be able to move the train, you have to release the breaks via the use of a hydraulic mechanism, in most cases through the use of compressed air. Trains have an air hose that runs the entire length of the train and the engineer can see the air pressure, and in order to be able to release the brakes, he has to apply air pressure to release the brakes. If the hose gets separated for whatever reason, the air pressure will reach atmospheric pressure for obvious reasons and the brakes will be applied automatically since that's their standard setting. The engineer sees immediately that he's losing air pressure and that the brakes have been applied, so he knows that something has happened.
In the video, you can hear a distinct "pffft" sound right after the train separated, that was the sound of the brakes being applied after losing air pressure.
@@filanfyretracker Of course they know. trains have a 90 psi brake pipe, aka rubber hose between cars running the length of the train. engineers will see all pressure readings on gauges or a screen in front of him. If for any reason the 90 psi goes to 0 psi.. the air loss of the brake pipe allows the reservoir tanks on all cars to dump air into brake pistons automatically putting the train into emergency..this includes the engines which need to be bailed off to avoid jacknifing
Consists don't split, they separate.
Wonder where I’ve seen something like this before. *cough* Millenniumforce *cough*
Amazing video dude
Hi kids , cool video and hello from Poland
Doesn't anybody notice that as the train is pulling away from the so-called broken coupler that it has red flashing light on it, and 30 minutes seams all full quick to repair the coupler.
Which GO station was this at?
Mount Pleasant GO
Thanks for this!
With rail cargo beeing so prwvelant why is the couppler not extwnd sith trwin integrity elcecronics?
What kind of cars were in there?
Awww that's sweet of cn 301
was that near one of the 4 inspection portals CNI uses from nasdaq listed DUOT ?
Nope, this is Mile 17.8 on CNs Halton sub
If only you had Superman strength and could push the train back together
Dang, saw the same train at Bramalea, not knowing what happened until now.
I heard it split AGAIN at Bramalea after my encounter with it
back cars wanted to take on some passengers. nice catch
Looking at these knuckles... Such things barely exist anywhere across the world ESPECIALLY NOT on freight trains! I live in the Netherlands and the only place where I've seen such knuckles are on miniature model trains... American railroad standards are unbelievably low. If such a thing happened in western European countries, the track would have to be blocked entirely, inspection would have to come around and everything would have to be checked in extreme detail about how this could have happened. The train would have no allowance to drive on like this, the problem would be fixed temporary to clear the tracks but most likely entire types of cars would be taken out of service preventively to investigate their reliability.
Holy crap they sure do let you get up close in the USA. Where I live there'd be several additional marking lines on the platform to indicate a 'safe distance' from the platform where you wait for trains to prevent the wind caused by the moving train to make someone stumble and fall. Glad that didn't happen here. But yes, don't get too close to the trains. They're dangerous.
Canada*
Why didn't they just glue it back together?
Great catch
3:10 they look like they’re singing
man, people are really stupid for blaming u abt that incident
Yeah
Capitol city rail productions put us on guard so say thanks to him i guess
@@monkeyanimationandgaming fr
@@monkeyanimationandgaming definitely so
The have I point some railfans in USA do that
Wow! Perfect timing!
Its a good thing it wasn't going down a hill otherwise it could have been a disaster
Theres one pigeon-toed cameraman !!
Idk why but i just have a weird feeling that the next time i go railfanning, a train will separate. (Btw im not saying i want it to happen)
Crazy how people saying “did you cause this” like you could have just said “the hell with physics” but all jokes aside I can see why people are questioning the situation due to what happen with that one foamer
He's trying to say hi to you over here
Hell of a catch!
looks like they had a broken uncoupling lever
Now come all the stupid questions to the crew. What was your speed and throttle notch? Was your train ascending or descending? What color socks are you wearing? Management’s way to pin blame on the crew for EVERYTHING.
Well I could actually give the answer
Their speed was about 50 MPH, the train was mainly descending with the back end still climbing a bit- Wait.. coloured socks?? 😂
@@GamingRailfanner Management doesn’t care about facts when they’re passing blame. They ask their questions and the crew waits for the Hearing and Investigation paperwork in the mail regardless of the facts.
No biggie if they were running Trip Optimizer.
@@redzmvt So you think the Carrier would report honestly? Sorry to burst your bubble but they submit false and misleading information intentionally.
Oh my goodness!
They are asking about the separation because of the derailment caused by a fan in Nebraska in April
Yea I know this
The knuckle didn't break, it just separeted. Air hose didn't break it just uncoupled.
look's like faulty coupler locking mechanism or bumping force is somehow kick the unlock lever
nice,un a train spotter from Croatia :D
Follow de Damn Train CJ !!!!
Like they say ---- "Move along now. Nothin' to see here." Could have been edited down to 1 minute or less of interesting material...
This was at a train station i witnessed the same thing over 2 years ago
What are the odds, a knuckle break before the strike/lockout. I call it a strikeout.
That wasn't a knuckle break
That wasn't a broken knuckle...
It's crazy how often this happens, would have though we would develop a better system
Guess those 2 cars were sent to the shop right after unloading had finished
Hmm... improper train handling?
faulty/damaged car hardware, based on comments by much smarter people than I.
Poor maintenance on BNSF’s end.
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@@smudgekitty19 what
@@gamingwithlukeJToH Kinda funny that the "Translate to English" button just turns the accented E's into even more E's.
Just curious, why does BNSF get the blame and not UP?
Is the trailing part of the coupler the one that is more likely to cause a failure?
@@DavidWalton-g8w Because kneejerk reactions are aimed at the party who's easiest to identify.
Wow what a catch good video
Well at least you didnt rig it to split.
Unlike some one
0:02 the title is so funny 😂
Wow, that's one cazy catch
Great safety there!