Am I the only one that thought the series was amazing, and displayed Punisher exactly how he should be? I loved the slow burn building up to the intense moments later on.. Wow, I'm kind of shocked to read many simply didn't enjoy it, and found it boring.. In my opinion, The Punisher is the best Marvel series thus far.
But the problem was there wasn’t enough punisher . I hated the side characters beside micro . The cop was dumb , the psycho vet was kind of pointless , the villain was one sided . It’s just super slow
I’d have to say they got it right with the downtime, it’s far deeper than just a mindless “shootemup”, the low points served to help you get to know the main characters and care for them, so each major moment had the correct emotional weight to it (especially the scene where frank was talking about his son painting a marine on their wall to protect “their girls”, which to me gave a glimpse into how he was as a father, which helped understand his grief over their murders, and his rage towards those involved), not to mention Russo’s eventual betrayal even though they were basically brothers, so in all, I’d say they did a damn good job of trying to make the viewers feel the emotions Frank felt.
It's because he's rage-driven.There's actually a scientific explanation about this called "hysterical strength",it's when basically you're so fuckin mad/hysterical that your body just ignore all the pain and your strength is doubled or sometimes even tripled,like when he killed schoonover and fights billy we literally see clips of him with his family,he's literally screaming when he killed schoonover and instead of killing billy he just tortures him.
I get the whole super solider aspect, I just wish the Punisher in this show did not take so much unnecessary damage. I was hoping to see him dominate more. Kind of negates the whole tactics to outsmart your opponents thing if you are constantly taking hits.
Erik Bentley I was kinda worried at first because they got another “pretty boy” but he was actually very good. He was manipulative, cunning and dangerous.
I think I'm satisfied with the series having a slow burn start. If there was anymore punishment from the punisher the whole thing would just be too grotesque. The slow burn gave the series humanity and kept it grounded - it was highly necessary in my opinion.
My favourite character along with Frank. Great antagonist and played brilliantly - Barnes was able to play him so cool and smooth and yet brutally efficient and violent when necessary too.
I feel bad for screenwriters because it seems that when they take time to try to fully establish a world and its characters people complain that it's slow but if they don't take that time people complain about the people being one dimensional. I'm not singling out the Punisher or this specific review with that comment. It just seems to be a trend I've noticed more and more this decade. As someone who writes fictions stories I have to admit I'd probably screw up an adaptation of my own stories when I had to decide which parts of them which are focused on character development and tying the theme of the book had to be cut in order to keep the pacing perfect.
Brian Wagner it's not impossible to establish characters whilst having an enthralling pace. Daredevil had the perfect balance. Punisher was a little more one sided towards a character study. Still thoroughly enjoyed it and found myself binge watching but I did want a little more gore.
This series could have been 10 to 9 episode easily without cutting out any character development, some of the stuff could have been told in less mins with same amount of info given, but i dont mind it sometimes as long as its not soap opera and good quality storytelling
Im honestly glad Punisher didn't do much punishing in the series. The side characters were pretty compelling and really helped the themes it was trying to tackle. Wouldve gotten boring if it was nonstop gratuitous violence.
I think it helped add empathy for the character and added more of reasoning, seeing his constant problems, rather than just him killing people, also allowing as to see the slow times as well as the fast helped us relate because, idk about you but nonstop killing isn’t a usual practice for me
What they should have done was have the police be the one's who are doing the reasoning and moral back and forth, like in Luke Cage. The Punisher know's he isn't the good guy. Take the quote from Deadpool: "I'm not the good guy. I'm just a bad guy, who fucks up worse guys." This mentality applies to the Punisher. He knows what he is doing is wrong on some level. But the mentality that he has is that if he does not do what he does, then the criminals will continue to do what they due, hurting innocent people. And that could be the reasoning that the police could have been going back and forth with in the show. Instead we got a bs conspiracy story, the show literally dragged on, a Punisher who wouldn't kill a white slaving arms dealer because... Actually, I still don't know that answer. Characters who honestly are kinda creepy supposedly being good guys. I mean seriously, what kinda guy spies on his entire family for years? And the Punisher killing innocent people in Afghanistan because he was following orders? Seriously? And then the whole my war is over, and I'm scared. That's not the Punisher...
Yes character is important but but give us some kind of fight in the other Marvel Netflix shows we get a fight way more often but other than that it's just so dull and so boring that is something Punisher should never be how can those words go together it was a literally a physical challenge to for me to watch the entire season that's not to say there aren't good moments or things that I actually do like but I won't lie Punisher was better in Dare Devil.
@@SympatheticNightmare you're the kind of guy who only needs action and get borrd with the character development well i understand that but that's your own problem
I’m look at all there comments and it’s really confusing. 13 episodes a season isn’t long at all, why are people begging for less content and less character development. This is a type of show where we all knew what was going to happen: the punisher was going to get the guys.but that finale is only satisfying if we care about what happens to the supporting characters just as much as the main character ,that could not be done in a shorter season.
Cameren Ceniceros Daredevil Season 1 Jessica Jones Season 1 Daredevil Season 2 The Punisher Season 1 Luke Cage Season 1 The Defenders Season 1 Jessica Jones Season 2 Iron Fist Season 1 That's how I rank them DD1 and JJ1 are masterpieces, DD2, P1, and LC1 are great, D1 and JJ2 are enjoyable, and IF1 is mediocre. I honestly don't find Irom Fist terrible like the critics did, I still found enjoyment out of it especially during the last few episodes but as a whole its a mess.
Honestly, to me, everything melded together perfectly. The slowness of the first half fit quite well. To me this season is easily an A+. It's the only Marvel show that felt like more than your everyday superhero story. This was art.
To be fair, two things can have the same rating but can also be placed higher than the other. For example, he gave don jon and the dark knight an A+, but he also says that because he gave don jon an A+ it doesn’t mean they are equal in quality
HAHAHA I usually agree with most of your reviews Chris, but I feel that The Punisher was waaaay better than the Defenders. The Defenders was just very slow and the characters didn't feel compelling at all, eventhough most of them are awesome in their own shows. The Punisher had heart, good motivations for both Frank and the villain and just better writing and plot overall. It's just my opinion though.
I honestly loved this show more than any of the other Marvel Netflix shows, even more because it was slow, and it was so annoying to see people giving it terrible reviews just because it came out right after that mass shooting. I never think something should be reviewed based on what was happening during the time it came out, but should be critiqued on its merits and drawbacks. Thank you for staying a critique!
I think the quiet, smaller moments are what make the big action scenes so satisfying and almost cathartic. We've watched this all build up and get pushed further and further. Those little moments are also what humanize a lot of who Frank is, and what makes him a fantastic morally complex character. I feel like if the show was nonstop action, it would get old and it would lack the emotional punches that the show gives.
Captain Ron " Sooooooo many better shows worth talking about!" Erm well that's your opinion and your entitled to that, but you are clearly in the minority. And in case you hadn't noticed, this is a REVIEW channel. That's the whole point of Stuckmans channel. He reviews tv and movies. No need to be a hipster and act like you don't care. You certainly cared enough to complain about people complaining.
I was waiting for the punisher to go full punisher for most of the series and when he did man what a good gory ending but as a whole this show was perfect also Billy russo was excellent in it and kinda rooted for him lol i love how the Netflix one's are darker and more dramatic. My favourite so are daredevil s1 daredevil s2 punisher defender's iron fist Jessica Jones luke cage. All brilliant TV action drama
I viewed this season as a slow character study on Frank's morality. They constantly test and question where he is willing to draw the line. Fundametally, he is the ultimate avenging angel, 'all oppressors beware' archetype. This is one of the most complex versions of this archetype I have seen, and the slower start really helps set that up.
My wife and I both really enjoyed the first season, slowdowns and all. It is by far our favorite of these so far, even better for us than Daredevil (which we thoroughly enjoyed as well.) I do not think the the down time detracted from the story at all, and I would have been considerably disappointed if the entire season would have been one long non-stop punish fest.
Yes to all of this! So much about how its shot and the build up it creates, so by mid season u are amped and ready to go! Then when shit really starts going down you feel it with him blow for blow. Love everything about this season and I too feel it is better than anything else like it.
It kept me through it with the promise of some damn good punishing, and it certainly delivered. I'd be pissed if it didn't. I think the start was too slow but it does show that they want to take time for the characters, which I really appreciate.
Couldn't have said it better. The time that was taken for character and plot development was not only necessary but really enjoyable. For this reason episode 1, for me, is one of my favourites in the show.
One thing I love about your videos is how soothing your voice is. Like, your videos aren't loud and clashing, it's just you speaking your honest beliefs on the show or movie. I can just sit and listen to you, while doing something on my laptop or writing something and not being distracted. Thanks Chris, keep doing what you're doing.
I personally don't need this character to "to punish people from the beginning". If you think that he is "the Punisher" from the start, you completely missed the message. He even burns his Punisher outfit in one of the earliest scenes to symbolise this. I expected some set up, any good show has some good build up and then good pay off. We got a taste of the Punisher in Daredevil, so I thought it was nice to see him try and have a normal life after those events were over. I thought the pacing of this show worked brilliantly, and by the final couple episodes the tension and the drama was exploding for me. Best Marvel show so far in my opinion.
I completely agree. You can tell that it was gonna be more of a slow burn just from watching the 1st episode. Some people can say that 13 eps is too much and that certainly can be the case with certain shows, but Punisher is NOT one of them. I was never bored and whenever there was action it felt like it was earned due to the story being told. Nothing felt like a shoe in. I respect Chris's opinion but B- is definitely too low. A- at the very least imo.
Yo Chris, there's this one scene where they use the exact same set as John Wick. Like it's the same exact room, completely untouched; and it's kinda the same scene plot as well. I made a short video on it, not to sound self promotional, but I just thought you'd find it interesting. I mean it's literally the same set as john wick, I don't know why it's so intriguing for me
Just watched your video, nice catch. When I was watching the Punisher I thought it was very similar to the John Wick scene, but I didn't realize it was the exact same set.
Chris, please review *Westworld* , and prepare for season 2. It is a perfect show, beyond aesthetic magnificence, mind-blowing plot twists and haunting acting! If you can, make it happen. Much love, bro!
Yeah 8 to 10 is the way to go. Recently watched Mr. Mercedes and Runaways and their 10 episodes are perfect to tell their stories. Only 3 episodes in Jessica Jones season 2 and 10 more to go is kind of a bummer considering half of the Marvel Netflix shows have run out of steam be around 7 or 8 eps. Not Iron Fist of course. That have no steam at any point.
8 episode format fucked up the Defenders. Nothing felt properly built up or meaningful in the long run. Guess the ratings and the cancelation reflected that.
it was about god damn time :v, could you still please review the greatest showman, the florida project, darkest hour, I Tonya and that recent movie called Thoroughbreds
Most of these Netflix Marvel shows have this stretching problem. They stretch 8 episode worth of story to 13. Same with Daredevil season 2, Luke Cage, and Jessica Jones season 2. That’s why I liked the Defenders better than a lot of people.
I love this show, the slow build up and all. I appreciate how the relationship between Frank ang Lieberman developed. Heck, I didn't even expect the Punisher to have a partner at all. Great season all in all. Can't wait to see S2 since I'm going thru the Defender saga series shows
Great review! you didn't talk much about your thoughts on the character Billy Russo, other than him being a total A-Hole. What did you think about Ben Barnes in the Role and his performance as Billy Russo?
THE STUFF OF LEGEND Movie / TV Discussion I know you asked him not me, but I just have to say my opinion him... Because I can. I remember learning to really like him during the show and regardless of the bad things he does I always kinda held hope that he would turn good, even until the last episode. That said, I think that talks volumes about how well the character was written/acted, so props to both the actor and the writer.
Mixu82 I totally felt the same way! I thought he was a great villain and a better character with a nice arc. The flashbacks serve to pull at our hearts while the later episodes in the present day serve to turn our stomachs against him. It was a blast
THE STUFF OF LEGEND Movie / TV Discussion I actually knew the character from the comics and who he would eventually become, so I never felt that way. I was just waiting for him to get his face torn up so he could become Jigsaw. And I was not disappointed. I saw him as a truly evil man putting on a nice guy act to get at Frank, and thought the acting really portrayed that. Either way, the actor put on a great performance.
Daniel Taylor honestly it wasnt good at all. I was like WOW is boring n it sucks. Comparing to season 1 ... S2 suck so much in pacing n the charactors whin so much.
Doesn't worth the time to watch it, most boring season of the marvel netflix shows, up until like the last 2 episodes all of it is useless cheap boring filler. And i really liked the first season.
One of the best moments IMO is when Karen hugs Frank and tells him to stay safe. On its own it shows that they have a connection, but if you’ve seen all the Marvel Netflix series it makes sense as Karen not wanting to lose anyone else to crime fighting. Side note- opening credits are awesome, especially with Tyler Bates’ music.
Nice review as always... But this "slow speed" you are complaining about the first half, I believe that it built up to the characters' depth and realism of the series. You wouldn 't have been so excited about what happens towards the end, if it hadn 't been for that "slow" first half. So "The Punisher" turned out to be 10 times better than I expected. Although I liked other Marvel-Netflix heroes more (with the exception of Jessica Jones), I think that as a series, Punisher may be my favourite of all so far!
Well, he is *finally* reviewing 2001: A Space Odyssey in April for his "classic movies" segment. (Seven Samurai is in March.) That's at least *one* Stanley Kubrick film, right? LOL
While I still havent watched the show, I, generally, disagree with a mindset that when a certain show, for which you as a viewer had a certain expectations by default, doesnt fullfil these expectations it means a flaw by default. I think its more important whether this "slower" start to the show payed off in the end, whether everything was made full circle. It doesnt matter whether its slower or faster, what matters is how its connected to the main story and character and how it pays off.
Chris Spada GOT is gay weiners and political talking. westworld is some drunk guy who watched wild wild west and blade runner in one sitting and mashed them up together.
BR 2049 failed and I Lost hope in Humanity what are you some 10 year old, literally any show could be put out in such silly words. You really need to stop watching avengers lmao
Hey Chris, you do a great job and I love your videos. DO what you need to do, build your body of work how and when you need to. Your fans will always appreciate you well-thought out reviews, rather than you rushing it. Congrats on the book sir!!
A fan of yours but I don't know. Between your lack of understanding of The Cloverfield Paradox and seemingly wanting a Punisher that's more Michael Bay-esque... just don't know. The Punisher at least in S01 was much about Castle punishing himself as it was others. That juxtaposition takes time to simmer bud. You wanted a microwaved Punisher meal but I'm so glad it was cooked in an oven.
Lihim Sidhe Mine was burnt on the edges. Just because someone says "it was too slow" doesn't mean they want Michael Bay. You know very well there is a middle ground.
I feel like, Lewis didn't have a good payoff in the end, great actor and amazing portrayal of PTSD, but for the whole, I don't really see the point of having him in the story, all he was is a contrast to Frank, and by the time he died, Frank's investigation will lead him to the same place anyways and place him in the same predicament, idk, someone enlighten me
The first half of the season is buildup for the 2nd half, and is definetly worth it, particularly the last 3 episodes. It gives a REASON to the violence. And that's what is different about this punisher than the killfest movies of the past
Jessica Jones season 2 was also disappointing. It was too slow, too boring overstretched. And the worst thing is that it had no good villain to care about. Really missed KIllgrave.
Hm, didn't feel disappointed at all by this season. I came in watching it without expectations, and for me it felt layered and relevant. Sure he didn't punish people at first, but the build up to it felt well paced imho. Thanks for the review! Good stuff!
Chris, I've been watching your reviews for years. I even watch your reviews (spoiler free) before I go and see a movie because I ALWAYS agree with your review after I see a movie and want to get someone else's opinion on it! You're super awesome, funny and make great videos! Thanks so much for the great content, keep up the good work my friend!
Chris, you _have_ to watch Punisher Season 2, I mean personally, I think it’s better than season one, way better paced for sure. No slow start in the slightest. Would love to see you review it!
I thought the pilot was really good. And besides they have to build the character of the punisher rather than just making him a killing machine with no substance
Punisher does not kill whoever stands in his way. He got a moral code that he will never kill innocents and that's separates him from being a complete psychopath
That’s what I thought. He may in fact be a psychopath but he’s turning it into a positive. I always though “terrorist” was someone who attacks “the government” (even though they kill non governmental citizens) for an ideology.
I actually felt really sorry for Lewis and Billy Russo. Such tragic backstories, even if they make some poor decisions into villany. And both were very well performed.
As the guy who spammed some videos asking for this, thank you for reviewing it and I'm so sorry for the reason that kept you from watching it... Your dogs do deserve your attention!
The problem I have with the Netflix marvel tv shows is that they’re always 13 episodes when it could be easily be 10 episodes if you cut out the filler and the stupid subplots, I find that these shows tend to drag near the end.
glad to see this from you to tell the truth out of my small group of you tubers that I specifically watch to hear their reviews, you are the first so to me your ahead of the curve
Throughout the season, Castle gives people the opportunity to step down. It just helps reinforce the difference(s) between Castle, Jigsaw and Lewis and for a show to convey that murky message as good as it did, it deserves a lot of praise.
I liked the pacing personally think it gave castle more depth as a character and his ideologies where able to sink in with the audience. My all time favourite marvel show but daredevil is a easy second place
Legit thought something horrible happened in the first 1 mins
Victor Chang my heart almost sunk.
Victor Chang so did i
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I thought he was gonna talk about the recent mass shootings thats been happening
Am I the only one that thought the series was amazing, and displayed Punisher exactly how he should be?
I loved the slow burn building up to the intense moments later on..
Wow, I'm kind of shocked to read many simply didn't enjoy it, and found it boring..
In my opinion, The Punisher is the best Marvel series thus far.
Same!
It's good but it's not Daredevil level at all.
I 100% agree with you. I think it’s the best marvel Netflix show.
Liam Gannon it's easily in the top 4 but the latest season of Daredevil kind of puts it to shame. I did really like Punisher though.
But the problem was there wasn’t enough punisher . I hated the side characters beside micro . The cop was dumb , the psycho vet was kind of pointless , the villain was one sided . It’s just super slow
The story was stretched a little thin, but the final four episodes were so much more satisfying because of it.
I’d have to say they got it right with the downtime, it’s far deeper than just a mindless “shootemup”, the low points served to help you get to know the main characters and care for them, so each major moment had the correct emotional weight to it (especially the scene where frank was talking about his son painting a marine on their wall to protect “their girls”, which to me gave a glimpse into how he was as a father, which helped understand his grief over their murders, and his rage towards those involved), not to mention Russo’s eventual betrayal even though they were basically brothers, so in all, I’d say they did a damn good job of trying to make the viewers feel the emotions Frank felt.
agreed the last four episodes were even better as a result of the build up.
That doesn't change the fact that the story was stretched thin, that the final 4 episodes are good doesn't mean it doesn't have flaws.
@@emilengen7825 No where does it say anything you mentioned in your comment
Who ever said punisher isn’t a superhero show is wrong this dude has super healing
Darold Williams yeah, his healing factor can put Wolverine to shame
Bruh how did Russo get disfigured by a guy who was just tortured to the brink of death?
Actually... you are right: this was in fact the only non-realistic element of the series!
It's because he's rage-driven.There's actually a scientific explanation about this called "hysterical strength",it's when basically you're so fuckin mad/hysterical that your body just ignore all the pain and your strength is doubled or sometimes even tripled,like when he killed schoonover and fights billy we literally see clips of him with his family,he's literally screaming when he killed schoonover and instead of killing billy he just tortures him.
I get the whole super solider aspect, I just wish the Punisher in this show did not take so much unnecessary damage. I was hoping to see him dominate more. Kind of negates the whole tactics to outsmart your opponents thing if you are constantly taking hits.
I’m surprised you didn’t go into more detail with Billy Russo. He was a pretty damn good villain.
Thunder Goku I agree. Ben Barnes did a fantastic job
Erik Bentley I was kinda worried at first because they got another “pretty boy” but he was actually very good. He was manipulative, cunning and dangerous.
Billy is really going to come into his own in season two I think. I can’t wait!
his assassin creed blade was awesome
*SPOILERS*
When he becomes Jigsaw it is fucking brutal. I cringed at the sound of glass scraping his pretty boy cheek bones lol.
I think I'm satisfied with the series having a slow burn start. If there was anymore punishment from the punisher the whole thing would just be too grotesque. The slow burn gave the series humanity and kept it grounded - it was highly necessary in my opinion.
jak longshot i think the slow burn got me more invested
It can be a slow burn with 10 eps just fine
People just want to see the punisher killing nonsensically,for 13 hours with no story or any humanity instilled in the punisher
I completely agree. It got me to appreciate the brutality of the violence more rather than me saying “for gods sake another fight scene?”
Are you sure your a punisher fan ??
Hardly any mention of Billy Russo? His characterisation was astounding and the acting was near flawless
Alex Townsend Yeah I was expecting Chris to love him in this. I can’t wait to see what they do with Russo in the second season as Jigsaw
Ben Barnes is awesome. Billy Russo was one of the best additions to the Marvel Netflix series
Alex Townsend he was probably my favourite character
I agree
My favourite character along with Frank. Great antagonist and played brilliantly - Barnes was able to play him so cool and smooth and yet brutally efficient and violent when necessary too.
I feel bad for screenwriters because it seems that when they take time to try to fully establish a world and its characters people complain that it's slow but if they don't take that time people complain about the people being one dimensional. I'm not singling out the Punisher or this specific review with that comment. It just seems to be a trend I've noticed more and more this decade. As someone who writes fictions stories I have to admit I'd probably screw up an adaptation of my own stories when I had to decide which parts of them which are focused on character development and tying the theme of the book had to be cut in order to keep the pacing perfect.
Brian Wagner it's not impossible to establish characters whilst having an enthralling pace. Daredevil had the perfect balance. Punisher was a little more one sided towards a character study. Still thoroughly enjoyed it and found myself binge watching but I did want a little more gore.
This series could have been 10 to 9 episode easily without cutting out any character development, some of the stuff could have been told in less mins with same amount of info given, but i dont mind it sometimes as long as its not soap opera and good quality storytelling
When The Punisher finally had his revenge, I literally got out of my chair and shouted in joy!! It was AMAZING.
I like the slowburn and the development of the relationship between him and Micro. Really good.
Chris, there is still a show out there that you MUST review...
Mindhunter!
Seriously Chris you are Fincher fan right so this shouldn’t be hard.
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Mindhunter is great.
Mindhunter and Legion
Manhunt is another very good show.
Binged it in one day, such a damn good show
Im honestly glad Punisher didn't do much punishing in the series. The side characters were pretty compelling and really helped the themes it was trying to tackle. Wouldve gotten boring if it was nonstop gratuitous violence.
Patrick Murphy Season 1 was boring as fucked. Would of prefered of Frank going after mob bosses.
I think it helped add empathy for the character and added more of reasoning, seeing his constant problems, rather than just him killing people, also allowing as to see the slow times as well as the fast helped us relate because, idk about you but nonstop killing isn’t a usual practice for me
What they should have done was have the police be the one's who are doing the reasoning and moral back and forth, like in Luke Cage. The Punisher know's he isn't the good guy. Take the quote from Deadpool: "I'm not the good guy. I'm just a bad guy, who fucks up worse guys." This mentality applies to the Punisher. He knows what he is doing is wrong on some level. But the mentality that he has is that if he does not do what he does, then the criminals will continue to do what they due, hurting innocent people. And that could be the reasoning that the police could have been going back and forth with in the show. Instead we got a bs conspiracy story, the show literally dragged on, a Punisher who wouldn't kill a white slaving arms dealer because... Actually, I still don't know that answer. Characters who honestly are kinda creepy supposedly being good guys. I mean seriously, what kinda guy spies on his entire family for years? And the Punisher killing innocent people in Afghanistan because he was following orders? Seriously? And then the whole my war is over, and I'm scared. That's not the Punisher...
Yes character is important but but give us some kind of fight in the other Marvel Netflix shows we get a fight way more often but other than that it's just so dull and so boring that is something Punisher should never be how can those words go together it was a literally a physical challenge to for me to watch the entire season that's not to say there aren't good moments or things that I actually do like but I won't lie Punisher was better in Dare Devil.
@@SympatheticNightmare you're the kind of guy who only needs action and get borrd with the character development well i understand that but that's your own problem
Chris grew up punished.
Good ole growing up memes
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You grew up with growing up memes...
...how disappointing.
*rawr*
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I’m look at all there comments and it’s really confusing. 13 episodes a season isn’t long at all, why are people begging for less content and less character development. This is a type of show where we all knew what was going to happen: the punisher was going to get the guys.but that finale is only satisfying if we care about what happens to the supporting characters just as much as the main character ,that could not be done in a shorter season.
Best marvel series since Daredevil Season 1
Cameren Ceniceros I like Jessica jones season 1 more than punisher but that's just me
Better than them all.
Cameren Ceniceros ur fucked! SJW punisher
Daredevil Season 2 is the best superhero season so far. IMO
Cameren Ceniceros
Daredevil Season 1
Jessica Jones Season 1
Daredevil Season 2
The Punisher Season 1
Luke Cage Season 1
The Defenders Season 1
Jessica Jones Season 2
Iron Fist Season 1
That's how I rank them
DD1 and JJ1 are masterpieces, DD2, P1, and LC1 are great, D1 and JJ2 are enjoyable, and IF1 is mediocre. I honestly don't find Irom Fist terrible like the critics did, I still found enjoyment out of it especially during the last few episodes but as a whole its a mess.
Honestly, to me, everything melded together perfectly. The slowness of the first half fit quite well. To me this season is easily an A+. It's the only Marvel show that felt like more than your everyday superhero story. This was art.
Right on time with the release of the show Great job Chris😊
Nice profile pic... I miss my vibrator too
He gave this the same rating as justice league... just finish me now.
Really? Justice league is total rubbish :X
To be fair, two things can have the same rating but can also be placed higher than the other. For example, he gave don jon and the dark knight an A+, but he also says that because he gave don jon an A+ it doesn’t mean they are equal in quality
@@crimsonfuse2727 Then why give them the same rating? :D What's the purpose of the whole rating ...
This is very late but review Mindhunter season 1
DEADLINE SOUL
YES! BEST NETFLIX SHOW, PERIOD.
DEADLINE SOUL oh this show is definitely an a+
I'm excited for season 2
HAHAHA I usually agree with most of your reviews Chris, but I feel that The Punisher was waaaay better than the Defenders. The Defenders was just very slow and the characters didn't feel compelling at all, eventhough most of them are awesome in their own shows. The Punisher had heart, good motivations for both Frank and the villain and just better writing and plot overall. It's just my opinion though.
I honestly loved this show more than any of the other Marvel Netflix shows, even more because it was slow, and it was so annoying to see people giving it terrible reviews just because it came out right after that mass shooting. I never think something should be reviewed based on what was happening during the time it came out, but should be critiqued on its merits and drawbacks. Thank you for staying a critique!
I'd argue this series is better than anything else ever made within the Marvel universe tbh. (Serious movie/ film / show or series wise).
@@Jake-nt3tg daredevil stomps. punisher is really good tho
I think the quiet, smaller moments are what make the big action scenes so satisfying and almost cathartic. We've watched this all build up and get pushed further and further. Those little moments are also what humanize a lot of who Frank is, and what makes him a fantastic morally complex character. I feel like if the show was nonstop action, it would get old and it would lack the emotional punches that the show gives.
It’s about time!
Wasp, is that you?
Captain Ron
Neither of us have complained. WTF are you talking about?
Captain Ron
" Sooooooo many better shows worth talking about!" Erm well that's your opinion and your entitled to that, but you are clearly in the minority. And in case you hadn't noticed, this is a REVIEW channel. That's the whole point of Stuckmans channel. He reviews tv and movies. No need to be a hipster and act like you don't care. You certainly cared enough to complain about people complaining.
I was waiting for the punisher to go full punisher for most of the series and when he did man what a good gory ending but as a whole this show was perfect also Billy russo was excellent in it and kinda rooted for him lol i love how the Netflix one's are darker and more dramatic. My favourite so are daredevil s1 daredevil s2 punisher defender's iron fist Jessica Jones luke cage. All brilliant TV action drama
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Tommy Townsend lmao
Haha, you are right xd
After he reviewed Black Panther, his life changed lool
I viewed this season as a slow character study on Frank's morality. They constantly test and question where he is willing to draw the line. Fundametally, he is the ultimate avenging angel, 'all oppressors beware' archetype. This is one of the most complex versions of this archetype I have seen, and the slower start really helps set that up.
My wife and I both really enjoyed the first season, slowdowns and all. It is by far our favorite of these so far, even better for us than Daredevil (which we thoroughly enjoyed as well.) I do not think the the down time detracted from the story at all, and I would have been considerably disappointed if the entire season would have been one long non-stop punish fest.
Exactly how I felt. Everything has ADHD now so the simmering was a welcome change. Made the violence mean more because of all the tension built.
Yes to all of this! So much about how its shot and the build up it creates, so by mid season u are amped and ready to go! Then when shit really starts going down you feel it with him blow for blow. Love everything about this season and I too feel it is better than anything else like it.
It kept me through it with the promise of some damn good punishing, and it certainly delivered. I'd be pissed if it didn't. I think the start was too slow but it does show that they want to take time for the characters, which I really appreciate.
The Hippie Geeks Totally agree
Couldn't have said it better. The time that was taken for character and plot development was not only necessary but really enjoyable. For this reason episode 1, for me, is one of my favourites in the show.
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Oh hi Mark.
One thing I love about your videos is how soothing your voice is. Like, your videos aren't loud and clashing, it's just you speaking your honest beliefs on the show or movie. I can just sit and listen to you, while doing something on my laptop or writing something and not being distracted. Thanks Chris, keep doing what you're doing.
I personally don't need this character to "to punish people from the beginning". If you think that he is "the Punisher" from the start, you completely missed the message.
He even burns his Punisher outfit in one of the earliest scenes to symbolise this.
I expected some set up, any good show has some good build up and then good pay off.
We got a taste of the Punisher in Daredevil, so I thought it was nice to see him try and have a normal life after those events were over.
I thought the pacing of this show worked brilliantly, and by the final couple episodes the tension and the drama was exploding for me.
Best Marvel show so far in my opinion.
Maxificent yes couldn’t had said it better, best marvel tv show so far
Yes! This show needs a lot more love that it has gotten. It's not only my favourite Marvel show, it's up there with my best shows of all time.
I completely agree. You can tell that it was gonna be more of a slow burn just from watching the 1st episode. Some people can say that 13 eps is too much and that certainly can be the case with certain shows, but Punisher is NOT one of them. I was never bored and whenever there was action it felt like it was earned due to the story being told. Nothing felt like a shoe in. I respect Chris's opinion but B- is definitely too low. A- at the very least imo.
Papadoc1981 I totally agree.
+1
Even with the slow parts I really loved this first season of The Punisher... it kept me interested the entire time
Yo Chris, there's this one scene where they use the exact same set as John Wick. Like it's the same exact room, completely untouched; and it's kinda the same scene plot as well. I made a short video on it, not to sound self promotional, but I just thought you'd find it interesting. I mean it's literally the same set as john wick, I don't know why it's so intriguing for me
24 Frames Of Nick wow I’m gonna have to watch ur vid that’s true
Just watched your video, nice catch. When I was watching the Punisher I thought it was very similar to the John Wick scene, but I didn't realize it was the exact same set.
Yeah the Nick
which scene are you guys talking about?
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thank you so much for reviewing this show Chris I know you saw my request and everyone else's requests
Took you long enough. Thank you for finally reviewing this show.
he gave DAMN. a 7 but this a B-?
No don’t I agree
What is a 10 for you,spongebob?
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I love the tshirt xD
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i bet there is "me apart Lisa" on the bottom of it
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heretic124 yeee
Personally this is my favorite MCU show so far. I felt like the performances in here are so strong and once the show gets going it goes.
You're right about Frank not being a good guy. But he's definitely not a bad guy either. Not everything is Black and White.
The Troll Killer Hes an anti hero
Nickolaus Turbide Yeah, I know. But I just felt like that needed to be said.
He’s not a good guy. He’s not a bad guy. He’s the guy.
(For those who get that reference)
The Troll Killer ironically he sees the world in black and white
Biggie Cheese Damn, I never thought about it that way, but you're right.
Chris, please review *Westworld* , and prepare for season 2. It is a perfect show, beyond aesthetic magnificence, mind-blowing plot twists and haunting acting! If you can, make it happen. Much love, bro!
The problem with all these shows is that they're stretched out too long. They should be 10 episodes and not 13.
Zach Gerrity even less I'd say
Lawrence Davis yup, 8 would be enough
Make that 8.
Yeah 8 to 10 is the way to go. Recently watched Mr. Mercedes and Runaways and their 10 episodes are perfect to tell their stories. Only 3 episodes in Jessica Jones season 2 and 10 more to go is kind of a bummer considering half of the Marvel Netflix shows have run out of steam be around 7 or 8 eps. Not Iron Fist of course. That have no steam at any point.
8 episode format fucked up the Defenders. Nothing felt properly built up or meaningful in the long run. Guess the ratings and the cancelation reflected that.
Jon bernthal is the best punisher ever.
it was about god damn time :v, could you still please review the greatest showman, the florida project, darkest hour, I Tonya and that recent movie called Thoroughbreds
I agree, where's the Darkest Hour review?
Alejandro Nava Agreed!
He's probably not gonna review any of them, sadly.
FINAAAALLLY! I’ve beeeeen waiting for you to review this!
Most of these Netflix Marvel shows have this stretching problem. They stretch 8 episode worth of story to 13.
Same with Daredevil season 2, Luke Cage, and Jessica Jones season 2.
That’s why I liked the Defenders better than a lot of people.
I love this show, the slow build up and all. I appreciate how the relationship between Frank ang Lieberman developed. Heck, I didn't even expect the Punisher to have a partner at all. Great season all in all. Can't wait to see S2 since I'm going thru the Defender saga series shows
Great review! you didn't talk much about your thoughts on the character Billy Russo, other than him being a total A-Hole. What did you think about Ben Barnes in the Role and his performance as Billy Russo?
THE STUFF OF LEGEND Movie / TV Discussion I know you asked him not me, but I just have to say my opinion him... Because I can.
I remember learning to really like him during the show and regardless of the bad things he does I always kinda held hope that he would turn good, even until the last episode.
That said, I think that talks volumes about how well the character was written/acted, so props to both the actor and the writer.
Mixu82 I totally felt the same way! I thought he was a great villain and a better character with a nice arc. The flashbacks serve to pull at our hearts while the later episodes in the present day serve to turn our stomachs against him. It was a blast
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I actually knew the character from the comics and who he would eventually become, so I never felt that way. I was just waiting for him to get his face torn up so he could become Jigsaw. And I was not disappointed. I saw him as a truly evil man putting on a nice guy act to get at Frank, and thought the acting really portrayed that. Either way, the actor put on a great performance.
Prince Caspian went off the RAILS!!! I loved it
This show is way better than “a man who kills criminals”, it’s also the most gruesome show I think I’ve ever seen.
Same man
Review Jessica Jones Season 2 Next!
Daniel Taylor just started episode 11. Very different direction from season 1. I like this a lot.
Daniel Taylor
Season 1 was a million times better!
Did you not watch the end of the review where he said he's starting it now...
Daniel Taylor honestly it wasnt good at all. I was like WOW is boring n it sucks. Comparing to season 1 ... S2 suck so much in pacing n the charactors whin so much.
Doesn't worth the time to watch it, most boring season of the marvel netflix shows, up until like the last 2 episodes all of it is useless cheap boring filler. And i really liked the first season.
Chris - Can you please review the Expanse? Every season, and then...Battlestar Galactica - every season?
u should watch "The End Of The Fucken World"
Pretty impressed with your acting at the beginning there, you had me convinced haha
Can you review Oldboy? (2003 version)
I like how Frank seemed mortal and wasn’t immune to the violence he is surrounded in.
One of the best moments IMO is when Karen hugs Frank and tells him to stay safe. On its own it shows that they have a connection, but if you’ve seen all the Marvel Netflix series it makes sense as Karen not wanting to lose anyone else to crime fighting. Side note- opening credits are awesome, especially with Tyler Bates’ music.
Meh nothing but pandering fanservice. Karen didn't need to be in The Punisher season 1 at all.
How did she not? She is the last thing that shows Frank's leftover human side
Nice review as always... But this "slow speed" you are complaining about the first half, I believe that it built up to the characters' depth and realism of the series. You wouldn 't have been so excited about what happens towards the end, if it hadn 't been for that "slow" first half.
So "The Punisher" turned out to be 10 times better than I expected. Although I liked other Marvel-Netflix heroes more (with the exception of Jessica Jones), I think that as a series, Punisher may be my favourite of all so far!
Could you review the Dr Strangelove?
Huey killed her by locking her in the AI pod.
Oh wait...
GrayFox370 aww come on!
Matt Kid YOU CAN'T FIGHT IN HERE, THIS IS THE WAR ROOM
Matt Kid Time to protect our “precious bodily fluids.”
Well, he is *finally* reviewing 2001: A Space Odyssey in April for his "classic movies" segment. (Seven Samurai is in March.) That's at least *one* Stanley Kubrick film, right? LOL
While I still havent watched the show, I, generally, disagree with a mindset that when a certain show, for which you as a viewer had a certain expectations by default, doesnt fullfil these expectations it means a flaw by default. I think its more important whether this "slower" start to the show payed off in the end, whether everything was made full circle. It doesnt matter whether its slower or faster, what matters is how its connected to the main story and character and how it pays off.
Chris review Game of Thrones and Westworld please!!!
Chris Spada Especially Westworld since it’s only one season and about to come out.
Jake Mitchell yeah I’m rewatching the season to remember what happened and it’s amazing
Chris Spada GOT is gay weiners and political talking.
westworld is some drunk guy who watched wild wild west and blade runner in one sitting and mashed them up together.
BR 2049 failed and I Lost hope in Humanity what are you some 10 year old, literally any show could be put out in such silly words.
You really need to stop watching avengers lmao
The Crypter I hate the avengers
Hey Chris, you do a great job and I love your videos. DO what you need to do, build your body of work how and when you need to. Your fans will always appreciate you well-thought out reviews, rather than you rushing it. Congrats on the book sir!!
A fan of yours but I don't know. Between your lack of understanding of The Cloverfield Paradox and seemingly wanting a Punisher that's more Michael Bay-esque... just don't know. The Punisher at least in S01 was much about Castle punishing himself as it was others. That juxtaposition takes time to simmer bud. You wanted a microwaved Punisher meal but I'm so glad it was cooked in an oven.
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Mine was burnt on the edges. Just because someone says "it was too slow" doesn't mean they want Michael Bay. You know very well there is a middle ground.
People will complain whatever. It wasn't boring in my opinion even in the first half of the series
Fuck off this season was boring as hell and anyone that says otherwise is fucking lying to themselves.
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I feel like, Lewis didn't have a good payoff in the end, great actor and amazing portrayal of PTSD, but for the whole, I don't really see the point of having him in the story, all he was is a contrast to Frank, and by the time he died, Frank's investigation will lead him to the same place anyways and place him in the same predicament, idk, someone enlighten me
10/10 SHOW in my opinion. Best out of all the Marvel netflix shows. Love Daredevil and Jessica Jones aswell and I kinda like Luke Cage aswell.
I'd love to hear your thoughts on Altered Carbon, Chris. Despite the mixed reviews, I thought it was a really interesting series.
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His moments of rage were so awesome.
Completely disagree. I loved the season from episode 1 on. I never felt like it dragged at any time. I give it a solid A.
That scene where Russo washes the blood off of Madani was insane
the last 2 ep alone made me unable to watch any of CW shows anymore
arrow and flash fights look like kids fights now
C Vox ?????? Arrow and Flash aren't gritty, ultra violent characters. Your comparison makes no sense.
C Vox they are on different networks. Netflix allows pretty much anything
C Vox yeah because the flash is just going to gouge someone's eyes out...
Harrison Workman but the flash could easily win a fist fight of use the speed lighting or his tornado hands which of he Barley uses
phantom if he beat up everyone so easily then the show would just be boring. Besides I'm on about why the flash isn't a violent show
Season 2, they fixed most of the problems you talked about, exciting from the beginning, etc.
Everytime I see Billy Russo on screen it makes me laugh because he legit looks like Chris lol.
That freaking Shirt man. It's just amazing.
Well....
It really IS about time you made this review.
Still....
The dogs do need a lot of attention..
The first half of the season is buildup for the 2nd half, and is definetly worth it, particularly the last 3 episodes. It gives a REASON to the violence. And that's what is different about this punisher than the killfest movies of the past
Jessica Jones season 2 was also disappointing. It was too slow, too boring overstretched.
And the worst thing is that it had no good villain to care about. Really missed KIllgrave.
I can't wait for his ready player one review
Hm, didn't feel disappointed at all by this season. I came in watching it without expectations, and for me it felt layered and relevant. Sure he didn't punish people at first, but the build up to it felt well paced imho.
Thanks for the review! Good stuff!
Chris, I've been watching your reviews for years. I even watch your reviews (spoiler free) before I go and see a movie because I ALWAYS agree with your review after I see a movie and want to get someone else's opinion on it! You're super awesome, funny and make great videos! Thanks so much for the great content, keep up the good work my friend!
I thought you said you were going to review Samurai Jack season 5. Do you still plan to do that?
Chris, you _have_ to watch Punisher Season 2, I mean personally, I think it’s better than season one, way better paced for sure. No slow start in the slightest. Would love to see you review it!
Jessica Jones season 2! Very curios on your opinion
zsombor szekely horrible
So I guess that by your constant smile, thumbnail after thumbnail, that you like EVERYTHING now, Chris?
Do a review on the Netflix movie, The Ritual! I personally loved it!
Elias Larssen Weird ass, crazy ass, scary ass movie.
I think the ritual actually might have been the best horror movie I've watched in a while. It actually creeped me out.
It was a good movie but looked like a copy of the blair witch project to me.
Elias Larssen great lead up, terrible final 15 minutes.
It had so much going for it!... until the ending
So much better show than Jessica Jones, Iron Fist or Luke cage. Those were almost unbearable to sit thru but the Defenders was just OK
Don't punish yourself with late reviews.
I adored the first season of The Punisher. Seriously one of the best small screen Marvel adaptations I have ever seen. 10/10 all the way through imo.
I thought the pilot was really good. And besides they have to build the character of the punisher rather than just making him a killing machine with no substance
Erik Bentley Not really. He works best as machine, a monster.
Tyler Eschberger Not really, he can be a machine but we have to know why he is like that. Without context we wouldn't care.
That's fine if you're familiar with the character already. But for a general audience there needs to be development.
Punisher does not kill whoever stands in his way. He got a moral code that he will never kill innocents and that's separates him from being a complete psychopath
That’s what I thought. He may in fact be a psychopath but he’s turning it into a positive. I always though “terrorist” was someone who attacks “the government” (even though they kill non governmental citizens) for an ideology.
I actually felt really sorry for Lewis and Billy Russo. Such tragic backstories, even if they make some poor decisions into villany. And both were very well performed.
As the guy who spammed some videos asking for this, thank you for reviewing it and I'm so sorry for the reason that kept you from watching it... Your dogs do deserve your attention!
You should review Apocalypse now, the original version.
IM pissed off the fact this amazing show was cancelled after 2 great seasons😑
It was cancelled bcuz it was shit n real punisher fans werent watching that shit
Wow, I can't wait to watch this *new* show.
Excellent review Chris! Great as always!
The problem I have with the Netflix marvel tv shows is that they’re always 13 episodes when it could be easily be 10 episodes if you cut out the filler and the stupid subplots, I find that these shows tend to drag near the end.
Ur dog looks like it's about to give the Punisher a 10/10 lol
Love the t-shirt Chris! Is that Peter or Eddie?
glad to see this from you to tell the truth out of my small group of you tubers that I specifically watch to hear their reviews, you are the first so to me your ahead of the curve
Throughout the season, Castle gives people the opportunity to step down. It just helps reinforce the difference(s) between Castle, Jigsaw and Lewis and for a show to convey that murky message as good as it did, it deserves a lot of praise.
I liked the pacing personally think it gave castle more depth as a character and his ideologies where able to sink in with the audience.
My all time favourite marvel show but daredevil is a easy second place