Harry Potter Character Tier List (Ranking Video)- HOT TAKE ALERT
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At 10:05 I meant it's based on the books not the films, but I'm sure you figured that out on your own
TDG #1 FULLSUPPORT HARRY POTTER EVERYTHING BIG FAX
Id name myself the idiot arthur
if this is still a thing when im 18 im getting it
Do the life story of avatar aang please
So we meet again, Morgan Lord?
Not being the boring good grandpa is exactly what makes dumbledore such an interesting character for me
He ain't Gandalf tho
@@LazyOldFusspot_3428 gandalf is th best in lord of the rings and harry potter expect for legalls
@@lyd4610 Legolas is a great LoTR character, but he's just ok when compared to Gandalf
@@LazyOldFusspot_3428 i know he is just lord of the rings but leglass is life
He's such a interesting character because of all the secrets he had in his life and his incredible knowlegde
Suprised at the take on Dumbledore. He’s a very complex character.
Agree, after hearing the profesi he had no choice but to make sure Harry could defeed Voldemort
Exactly he’s so well written, and my favourite
@@rnsw4572 ME TOO! :) great character!
Dumbledore’s still a character 🖤 I love he’s backstory is my favorite 😍 I find his complex relationship with Grindelwald 💙
Dumbledore made harry feel safe. And the readers!
Honestly Draco fans took “hate the character, respect the actor” to ANOTHER LEVEL
No, they love the character as if he was the actor.
Snape fans as well.
@@sirboredom1012 totally disagree. It has nothing to do with the actor. It has to do with the fact that Draco's parents literally INDOCTRINATED him with the idea that pure-blood families (such as theirs) are superior and the others must be treated as skum. They even had a say in his choice of friends: He was only allowed to befriend pure-bloods such as Crabbe and Goyle. They influenced every aspect of his life. Still think he's a genuine bad guy? I sure don't.
I kinda love him
@@Emily-jd1exthe character or Tom Felton?
Snape is the most complex and well written character in the series, definitely not a good person but we all have to accept that Rowling did an amazing job with Snape’s character.
Funny this sentence can be read two ways.
True for Dumbledore as well, his flaws make him far more interesting than just "wise old wizard"
Yea he is my favourite
Snape is my favorite Character because of his complexity
Nah, I don't see it. Alan Rickman was great, Snape is a hateful incel beginning to end. People talk about his redemption arc, but I don't think there is one. He was basically a neo-nazi that got manipulated by using his stalker target into being a double agent.
Book Ginny: Fierce, loyal, great character development
Movie Ginny: “sHoElAcE”
lol
OpEn uP YoU 👉🏻👈🏻
@@elliot4837 Ron was the best part of that particular scene
@@ashhabimran239 saved it for me 😂😂
I didn’t care for book Ginny, but movie Ginny definitely gave me more of an appreciation for the book version
I think one of the reasons that the trio are not in the top tiers is just because we have closely read about most of their actions or emotions, we have seen the good and the bas sides (which is the case for most people, well, except umbridge) I feel. Characters like ginny and others are truly side characters so we mostly see figments of their personalities (plus given that the book is from Harry's POV, ginny is obviously gonna look better).
Yes this perfectly explains this
Not really, a lot of boys fancied her at Hogwarts, even Slytherin Blaise Zabini, who is mocked for this by malfoy and others near the start of HBP.
Harry’s POV about Ginny is genuinely how she is, if even someone friendly with malfoy can fancy her.
Yeah I know right. Imagine Ginny getting mad at her friends the same reason Ron was, we'd never know.
Dudley’s redemption is honestly one of my favourite things in the franchise, the way he just says “I don’t think you’re a waste of space” is so sweet, and is one of the most amazing moments
Real
Dudley was never bad, he was just nurtured to mistreat harry and was spoilt ontop of probuably being jealous that harry was a wizard and he wasnt
@@mozalucasi don't think that Dudley is jealous on Harry because he being a wizard. Dudley hate magic and won't even dere to said word,, wizard "
Thanks for not forgetting about Snape’s bullying of his students! Yeah he ended up saving Harry’s life and all but that still doesn’t justify the bullying, especially for Neville who didn’t even do anything to justify it.
Ikr
I feel like what's so great about Harry as a character is that he feels like such real character. Where he annoys me is where I annoy myself in life.
yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@jennipark6107 people just don't understand Harry
@@nunoneves5809
Especially in the fifth book
The boy suffered from trauma after Cedric was killed and he tortured in that graveyard alone, and the Ministry did not believe him and Dumbledore sent him to the house of his relatives who hate him and told Ron and Hermione not to tell Harry anything , and Harry showed in the same book symptoms of PTSD, the only one who understood Harry was Sirius and he died too, Harry is really a tragic character
but people sympathize with underdogs like Draco and Snape 🙄
@@Sj_9885 couldnt agree more.
When i read the fifth book, i completly understood Harrys burst of rage against his friends. No one had any idea what he had ben through, and anything but rage and anger would have been unrealistic.
Harrys character arc in the fifth book is probently the reason its My favorite.
That’s interesting every time I’ve read the books I’m always baffled by a lot of Harry’s decisions and reactions because they are so different than how I would react to those situations, but people handle things differently I guess
This is my hot take… but I think Ron was in the right when it comes the the whole scabbers and crookshanks thing, like yeah because we found it scabbers was Peter pettigrew then it was fine but they didn’t know that. And Hermione to me was being careless and didn’t bother about making sure crookshanks was away from scabbers and wouldn’t listen to Ron when he was concerned about his pet being killed. Yeah Ron might have took it too far, but I think he wasn’t in the wrong if you don’t think of him as Peter pettigrew, it’s normal to be upset.
I completely agree. The worst part is Hermione is perfectly aware that cats chase rats and so is perfectly aware of what she’s doing when she has Crookshanks around when Scabbers is also around and dismisses any sort of near murder of Scabbers as natural. If that’s the case, why the fuck would she bring crookshanks around.
@@joeyjerry1586 exactly… like Ron has his moments of being mean for stupid reasons because he’s an angsty jealous teenager. But his feelings with the scabbers situation are completely justified, and if it was the other way around and it was Hermione’s pet and Ron was being dismissive about it. I 100% bet people would be on Hermione’s side and Ron will be seen as the bad guy. Like didn’t Hermione also bring crookshanks to the boys dormitory? And all Ron wanted was Hermione to apologise or actually do something about crookshanks to stop him going for his pet. The fact that scabbers was Peter pettigrew makes people go like ‘well Ron was in the wrong!’ But that doesn’t change anything for the actual argument. Hermione didn’t know anything like that she was just allowing her cat to do what he wants without consequences and didn’t care about Ron’s feelings. Plus Hermione that same book put down lavender’s pets death just because she doesn’t like divination. She’s a grey character but she wasn’t the nicest in that book either.
Yeah honestly I disliked Hermione for quite a lot of that book, specifically for this reason. Ron took it too far but Hermione was totally callous towards him.
I completely agree with you
That's what I felt while reading the books
True, Hermione willfully endangered her friend's pet and ignored all of his concerns about it and then couldn't even apologize when it looked like her cat had killed her friend's pet. Not good on Hermione
“Malfoy sucks and the only reason people like him is because Malfoy is hot” 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 I love this
Sirius Black is the best character. Basing off of how well they were portrayed in the books and movies, this is true. He was so impactful with Snape a hatred and everything, I just loved him as a character. Kinda like how Voldemort was so well portrayed as a villain, Sirius, was well portrayed as a villain and a hero.
Snape was also written so well. I love Snape as a character.
I agree with the snape part but Sirius was kinda reckless with like everything
Sirius is just an arse in the books, he spends some much time complaining and being mean to everyone, doesn’t even seem to like Harry. It doesn’t make you care about him much when he dies. I think the films did a better job with some of the scenes between Sirius and Harry. Those heartfelt moments between the two made his untimely death so much more tragic.
yes i think your right how he say that sirius black is bad so that why he is the worst and say that vodemort is good even that he the badass but he is the best , did not he say that he is not based of the evil and the good ??
Same for both
FOR REAL!
I love how you always use that image whenever you're talking about Vernon
It's funny because Umbridge irritates me so much that it literally makes me not want to read the 5th book sometimes
Same and I am currently reading the 5 book for the millionth time and every time that Harry gets detention and umbridge just being mentioned 😂
Umbridge caused to never read the 5th book again
i’m in the middle of the 5th rn and it’s SOOO FRUSTRATING but im just waiting for her to get that good karma
@@1020mikki it's worth it at the end lmao. she really gets it
yeah me too I hate Umbrige I made a meme about her but I didn't put it on youtube
Umbridge evoking so much hate towards her is exactly what makes her a great character. And her actress in the movie just nails it perfectly.
Amanda Staunton’s portrayal of Umbridge is the reason I’ve never seen the OOTP film again since watching it for the first time.
I was very satisfied with Malfoy's character. I feel like he was able to move on from his past, which I do think he deserved to be able to do, but I also don't feel like he was over reawarded.
Like, he didn't get this big, grand redemption arc and become one of the hero's.
He was just able to mature past his ways and live a relatively normal life, where he hopefully didn't pass on any of his previous beleifs to Scorpius.
It feela very realistic. Sometimes bad people change, and are just able to live. Some people may think it's unfair, some think they deserve more; the point is, it happens, and all we can really do is accept it.
I'm glad Draco didn't go full evil, and I'm glad he didn't die in some noble sacrifice that was meant to magically redeem all the shitty things he ever did ( Or else we would've ended up with Albus Severus Draco Potter 🙄). I'm glad he just lived normally.
Yeah, Alot of people like Draco in teh films because of Tom Felton but another reason is that Draco's just more redeemable in the films in my opinion. They cut out a lot of awful things he did such as laughing at Cedrics death and instead made him look sad while Dumbledore was acknowledging Cedric. They also show him being depressed from the start of the 6th film while in the start fo the 6th book he was bragging about his task and he was rarely shown bullying other students. The movies make him seem more sympathetic to me.
I love Draco’s character simply because he had so much potential. I was kind of upset with the way JK Rowling wrote such an interesting character that could’ve played either such a redeeming guy or a horrible villain, but she stuck to basically throwing all of his interesting aspects out.
She very much under utilized Draco.
@@PhysicallyAwake I agree, she could've done a lot with him in the end but instead he just continued to be a coward and didnt really end on either side.
@@69hehefunny What also angers me is how not only the show runners but JK Rowling herself wanted to give Draco this big redemption arch, but on both occasions they just completely yoinked all of the progress they had made with his character and gave him the most pathetic end to any character in the show. Not to mention how little screen time AND book time he got.
I like Draco
@PhysicallyAwake true. I know not every character needs a redemption but I think his character had so much potential for a great redemption and everyone obviously wanted him to have one
I usually side with the books but there are times when I have to admit the movies did something better. In particular from watching this video, I think Sirius Black is an example. In the movie he was a better godfather to Harry, and I was pretty happy with his line, "You're *not* a bad person. You're a good person that bad things have happened to."
I disagree, I get movie Sirius was more like a godfather but it makes less sense for his character. Book Sirius was traumatised and more realistic and his flaws made sense. A man spending all those years since his early 20’s locked up in prison after losing his best friend being surrounded by dementors… I don’t think he’s going to suddenly be better and more wise and mature afterwards
Severus was fellow survivor of child abuse,, telling Harry what he himself discovered when his redemption arc began.
I also liked movie Snape better
@@jayaisnthere Yeah cus he was less of a bully, but thats mainly because there rnt nearly as many chances for him to be portrayed as one
@@jayaisnthere Agreed, book Snape was infuriating, movie Snape is actually rather charismatic. My theory on that is that Alan Rickman knew his character's backstory and fate, so he ended up making Snape more likeable than in the books. Because in the films, it actually feels like he's looking out for Harry
I don't get this list: Are you ranking how entertainment good these characters are or how morally good the characters are? 'Cause you put a lot of people in lower tiers for being morally bad yet your favorite character is one you've ranked as second on most evil (Voldemort as #1 most entertaining character is very valid) I'm just confused. Is it likability?
its how much he likes them
Honest and hopefully constructive comment: Some characters were evaluated on their depth, literary nuance, and personal arc. Others were evaluated on their subjective morality. Would love to see a revised tier list for each of these categories! IE, best WRITTEN/most interesting characters, versus most likeable characters.
yeah true, I feel like different characters were judged on a different basis
Cedric diggory :- My death was for nothing?
Fleur , bill , Charlie Weasley:- We are forgotten
Lucius and narcissca :- same , these filthy muggles
The absolute Dobby, Hedwig and Moaning Myrtle erasure smh
regulus too
Fleur: Nous sommes oubliés...
Don't worry, part 2 will come soon
@@HuskerNinja Fawkes: looks like I got turned into ashes and can’t come back to life
Well the Harry one is ridiculous for me because the department of mysteries one, he clearly said he didn’t want all of his friends to come with him, and the tri wizard one he was only trying to help and was scared that they might die
This is very true. He tells people on many occasions not to come with him, starting when he intended to go through the trapdoor on his own, and even tried a second time to persuade Ron and Hermione to turn back just before they went down there.
He tried to tell Neville, Luna and Ginny not to come with him to the Department of Mysteries, and he tried to tell Ron and Hermione not to join him on the horcrux hunt.
He even successfully stopped Lupin from joining in on the horcrux hunt too.
If anything, these people only got themselves in danger because they forced themselves into it.
I know that’s what I was thinking and like when at in the 2nd task he wanted to save Hermione and ron like ho could he chose
he was the only one who didn't want to let the girl die and had some common sense...
But it was obviously part of the games set up for the tournament, so they wouldn't have actually died.
@@folarin_ahe didn't knew that so
Young Voldemort is so eerie and cool I’m totally with you on him
ikr
I will never understand how Peter Pettigrew was a Gryffindor. He was such a coward that the sorting hat should've forbid him to join Gryffindor, even if he begs for it.
I think part of why Harry is just an "okay" character is because he is also the audience surrogate. He knows as much about the Wizarding world as we do. So he's in since ways forced into the hero role, but also the info sponge for us. He's not as void of character or personality as many "every man" types can be, but he is definitely surrounded by bigger personalities - like Slughorn or Luna
I am so happy you brought up how awful Malfoy is. I hate how he is pretty privileged by almost the whole fandom. He was racist and people will always pass it off as his dad being mean to him. When there were other kids who had it much worse and weren’t total jerks
he was VERY racist in the books
Facts
@@Levy957 which book
@@c10713a From the book, "Chamber of Secrets" like that other time when Draco called Hermione a "mudblood."
How did u make it or if anyone knows tell me plz (I put it here cos it’s top comment and I want ppl to see it)
“But as i said this video is based on the books not the novels”
-Morgan, 2022
My favourite character is Dobby. I cried so much when he died.😢
It made me so happy when you said that Neville was your second favorite character. Not only was his character arch underrated, it was one of the best in the series. He does come second to Voldemort, though
well according to me Albus dumbledore was not bad he did what he had to do to save all the other witches, wizards and muggles and somewhere i always feel that he knew that voldemort could never be able to kill harry and yes he did use snape but that was necessary he was trying to save everyone so that does not make him bad, he just did the right thing even though it was hard to do.
He sucks
@@purpleclaws202 on what grounds exactly?
Also don’t comment if you haven’t read the books.
Snapes "obsession" is a Headcanon.
He truly loved Lily.
This is Canon.
Snape is a prick, but I don’t understand why people think he’s a stalker. Unrequited love is a totally normal thing, people.
@@vonfriedland
I do not understand it either.
Severus truly loved Lily and this is confirmed by JKR.
@@vonfriedland he did bully kids
@@Burg7. That had nothing to do with the point I made.
the thing is jk rowling said many things so that people dont criticise the movies and cursed child like saying harry and hermione belong together which they never did snape love is one sided and toxic to the point that he dont care about anything else except her if voldemort asked him to bring him harry and he will spare lily he would have done so without a second thought. ron and hermione really belong together it can be noticed even from the first book the way they interect and the way both were protective of each other inspite bickering and contradicting each other most of the series is what brings them together
Sadly, I had to agree with you about Tom Riddle's mom. Even though she was a victim of abuse by her family, her victimhood was ruined because of what she did to Tom Riddle Sr. for years.
Also one of the true identifiers of Harry maturing is realizing his dad and his friends were Malfoy and his friends of their day. Harry neglected to tell his friends he learned of his dad being a bully through Snape's mind, from the occlumency lessons Snape botched so greatly, rather saying Lupin had let slip that his father had used the Levi Corpus charm.
Harry doesn't like to humiliate anyone, meaning that if someone other than Harry (draco > the perfect example ) had known about this embarrassing memory of snape he will spread it in the whole school.
Snape is supposed to find out that Harry is a sympathetic and a little different from
James From the moment he learned that the students don't talk about this memory
But no, he still sticks to his opinion that Harry is James junior
even that Harry was so panic about the way Snape was killed by Voldemort that he came close to him and stayed with him when he was dying , no student would do this to a bully teacher like Snape, Harry really has a great capacity for compassion
Harry must have hated to know his dad is just like Draco ❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥
@@francheskajulien8799
Let's be honest, James was not racist even though he was pure blood
He befriended the outcasts like Remus and Peter and the white sheep of the Black family (Sirius)
He married a muggle born and supported Remus with money when the latter could not
find a job and he opened his house to Sirius.
The ideologies between James and Draco are completely different.
Just because they're spoiled and rich doesn't mean they're the same, James is still a better person than Draco
James is loyal to his friends and has had a bunch of outcasts as friends, that's nothing like Draco
The movies made James much worse than the books and made Draco the poor who had no choice and Tom Felton played this role which Make this character misunderstood
Absolutely love your list, we share a lot of feelings on certain characters lmao yk I love when you get to roasting/being upfront with your opinion 😌
I love how you ranked the "good" characters bades on how bad they are and the "bad" characters based on how you enjoyed theyr chaotic evil acts, i can respect that.
Something that I would add regarding Lockhart is that his mess ups are so satisfying. Like how he underestimated Snape’s knowledge on dueling, only to be humiliated. And especially when all the teachers throw back his words and tell him to fight the monster of Slytherin.
He's the reason Chamber of Secret is my favorite, yeah, most of the Weasleys are funny, but comic relief don't get no better that Lockhart 😅😅😅
Dumbledore is not bad, he knew Harry would survive once Voldermort took Harry's blood, hence the flash of triumph when he heard about it. he just had to convince Harry that he would die, in order for Harry to do what he needed to do.
YES
Dumbledore’s not all bad no one’s a saint we’re all human and make mistakes but Dumbledore’s love ❤️ for Grindelwald was the best choice albus made he made him who he was 🖤🖤🖤
What pissed me off about Dumbledore was how secretive he was about everything up until the end. Why? did he think noone except him would understand or what? The fact that everything happened to work out in the end was pretty lucky. Like imagine if Snape died before Harry took the memory and never learnt that he had to sacrifice himself, or literally anything in 7th book failed during their quest to uncover what the hell Dumbledore wanted. Harry, Snape and most of his other friends proved themselves as capable and loyal time and time again and Dumbledore still acted like they just met him, and didnt deserve any meaningful insight. I would understand if maybe he was betrayed somehow before. But I dont recall anything of the sort. Pettigrew betrayal was betrayal of his friend group, not Dumbledore. Other people like Grindelwald seemed more like a value disagreement than betrayal. So if he didnt have any experience with big betrayals and his supporters proved to be loyal and competent, then only other option is a god complex to me. That he really just naturally felt like he had a big plan and people around just wouldnt understand, they could only get some pieces and be slowly lead to correct actions.
On the other hand, he was a great character. I wouldnt place him to bad tier either, but I agree that he had flaws that were just frustrating to read. Like jesus, when I read the 5th book. Why not explain to Harry why he needs to learn oclumancy at the beginning.
"You see Harry, when you had a vision with Mr Weasley, that was actually view of Voldemort possessing a snake, so you saw into his mind. We fear that this is a 2 way tunnel. For now he is probably not aware of this connection but soon he might try accessing your mind, or give you visions that are not real, torturing someone else you like, to trick you. So please, you have to learn to close your mind, and any time you have a vision just bring it up to me or any other order member like Professor Snape or McGonagal"
There. It would save tons of mental problems that Harry had and maybe even Sirius.
That’s right @francisgrizzlysmit4715 professor Albus Dumbledore is that good character
But not bad character in my opinion
@@francheskajulien8799 he sucks
I’m genuinely curious what you think of the other characters. You should definitely make a part 2, I know most may not have background like other characters but expanding where you share your opinion on the other of the Weasleys: Bill and Charlie
Malfoys, Hogwarts professors, and other Death Eaters. I know they might not have huge background but it would be cool to hear your thoughts on these characters
Honestly I think with Lily, the reason why she smirked and laughed wasn’t necessarily her true colors. She was just incredibly hurt by Snape, and I think it might’ve been her reaction and emotions to the situation influencing her.
Her laughing at Snape being sexually harassed was before he called her a mudblood.
Nah, that was before he called her a mudblood. She had no real excuse.
I think that in the first few movies, Emma Watson did a good job at protraying Hermione, especially for her age, but as she grew up she became a model, and that just ruined Hermione's looks and made people think Hermione is a confident, beauty queen when really, she was an insecure, self pressured girl who wanted to protect her friends
I don’t think it’s so bad. The way I understood it was that she was overlooked and not that popular in the early books, but following the 4th has I suppose what you could call a “glow up”, at the Ball for example. Which is basically what happens in the movies. I never really got the impression she was supposed to be ugly, so I think Emma Watson didn’t really break the characters dynamic too much.
You should do a tier list based on how well written they are, this list seems based on how much you personally like them instead of how well written they are.
The whole point of this list is to show Morgans personal preference.
@@mundanenames9752 that's because it's a personal preference tier list, his reasoning will be different for every character.
@@mundanenames9752 it's mostly about how much he enjoys reading them. So yeah no matter how good or evil they are
I think it was more about his personal preference on how much he enjoyed the character and not about how well they are written. If you liked how a character was written and enjoys reading about them, then they get a higher rating in his mind. He did say that there would be some hot takes based on what characters he really liked reading about.
No, this is good, he's talked about how characters are written countless times, he's not really gone into what he thinks about all of the main characters.
book vernon:BOY!!!!
movie: eating a whole jar of ice cream
Oh well according to me ron is the best character i felt he was so underrated in the movies
I feel like Umbridge and Dumbledore deserve to be in higher tiers because they were well-written characters. If you are angry with Dumbledore and consider him to flawed than that writer was successfully in making her point about this character. Dumbledore was the biggest example of how a wise adult is what he is because he made several mistakes. Also, it's not easy to be a leader. When you have to chose between well-being of entire wizarding world and life of single boy then it will always be the entire wizarding world. Umbridge was meant to be infuriating. I feel she has been the most successful villain because entire Potterhead fanbase unites in hating her. Mission successful!!!
Umbridge can be compared to a villain like Danzo from Naruto as in the are so damn well written in terms of being a character to hate
Umbridge, Danzo and Douma (from demon slayer) are incredibly evil characters and while I do absolutely hate umbridge, Danzo isn’t that bad. I’d put him in the Ok/Good tier. Douma is my favourite character in demon slayer, even though he is the most hated character in demon slayer, yet he is so evil you just have to love him.
Completely agree.
Totally agree, I thought this would be a list on how well written the characters were, not just how much he liked or disliked them personally.
@@ChromaWRLD999I can't wait to see douma in the next season
Harry’s recklessness is the whole point of the films
he said many times hes going off of the books not the films...
Do you not know how to listen??
Imagine how different this tier list would be if it was based on the movies
Man you genuinely have such an entertaining channel. Tyvm
ngl Harry was slowly becoming a badass in the books, in the half blood prince, he was literally criticizing the minister of magic like hes so much better and in the last book, he broke into the ministry of magic full of death eaters, stunned a death eater and Umbridge, and commanded ministry officials to do what he said and when someone spoke up to him Harry kinda bullied him making them all start opening the fire places. I loved seeing him grow which is why I would put him in really good or just good. Also Hagrid at best, idc what bad things he has done, hes the best.
I can't believe I'm saying this but Kevin Conroy has passed away. He was my childhood hero and I only wish that he is resting in peace.
Awww
Rest in peace, Kevin, he was definitely Batman to a lot of us 90's kids.
That sucks. Loved him in the Arkham games. Guy will never be replaced.
@@br5073 true, rest in peace, G.O.A.T🤟🤟
@lucy horgan he's batman. THE Batman
Speaking of Merope, love potions are one of those aspects of the HP universe where you step back and wonder "How is this legal?" It's literally a date rape drug, and it's also basically the Imperius curse in bottled form (and it's a bit more limited to what you can make the victim do with it). It's legitimately insane that people are allowed to have it, make it, and sell it openly.
I would have put Harry in the "good" tier but, yeah. Ron and Hermione stay in the "okay" tier.
"He's just a freaking psychopath....and I love it"
Morgan described in 1 line ☝️
This is actually the reason Umbridge is in my A tier
@@michaelbfdiiwong523 oh hell nooo. Ok as much as I like someone like Lord Voldemort and other psychotic characters but Umbrige being in A tier is wrong… like really wrong.
Something I've always loved about Dumbledore is that he's not exactly a good person but he's on the good side. It's a character type I've always loved
Dumbledore’s not a saint but he’s not great either 💙💙💙
Personally; I find James attacking Severus and holding his safety for ransom so that Lily would date him, and continued attacking him despite the fact that she told him to stop, showing he had little respect for her, more disturbing than Severus having an unrequited crush on her. "Unrequited" is an important word here because Lily never knew Severus had feelings for her and they were "friends" for six years. Severus was not a shy person, if he wanted someone to know how he felt about them they didn't stay oblivious for long, the fact that he never spoke to her about his feeling shows that he valued their friendship more than any romantic tryst.
Yes, agree.
I have a feeling he'd get a lot less flak for how he felt about Lily if he were good-looking.
Everyone sorta forgets about the bad stuff James did bc hes Harry's father
I too don't get how he was an obsessed stalker. To continue loving someone isn't stalking and frankly isn't anyone's business, regardless of your opinion of one-sided love. As long as the person isn't bothering anybody. Found the guy's take utterly stupid.
I think partly what made Luna so enjoyable was how perfectly cast she was. If you read the book, and didn't see the move you'd picture one thing. But if you watched the movie THEN read the book.... you'd see Evanna Lynch, the actress who played her so well.
After reading the books so much later than they came out, there are a few casting decisions that are just flat out genius. Hagrid, Fred & George, Draco surprisingly (tho long term I think that was more luck than anything), Snape (Just don't go to Nakatomi Towers on xmas eve...). HP is not one of those series where the movies surpass the source materials..... but there are some roll choices that rally shined beyond expectation.
There are lots of missing people here. Various Blacks, various Weasleys, some Malfoys, various Dumbledores, Various Hogwarts teachers and students, any non humans, and the entire Fantastic Beasts crew, among others. There should be a 2nd part. Maybe there should be many videos building up the tier list.
I'm surprised he didn't cover Bill, Dean, Seamus, Fleur, Cedric and Quirrell. I think he'd definitely place Cedric in really good since I've only ever seen him praise his character (outside of cursed child for obvious reasons)
very interesting ranking. Will you do a part 2? Im curious to see where you'd put characters like Lucius, Filch, Harry and Draco's sons, Narcissa, dobby, fluer, Regulus, andromeda and Slughorn
also Cedric, Xenophilius, Peeves, Aragog, Griphook, Barty Crouch Sr. and Lavender.
Screw Draco's son.
@@DavidRay39 He's actually the only character I like in the cursed child
@@69hehefunny SAME
I read “Harry and Draco’s sons,” SO WRONG BRO I-💀💀
I love how you’re breaking my marauder obsessed heart lol
Luna goes in the best: Harry even named his daughter Lily Luna Potter. He named her after Luna because:
In Order of the Phoenix, Luna is one of only a small handful of people who support Harry and believe Harry when he tells the truth about Voldemort’s return.
Luna fought with Harry and his friends in the Department of Mysteries, showing her bravery and loyalty.
After Sirius dies, Luna is calm and comfort Harry at least a bit when even Hermione can’t. Harry learns Luna lost her mom when she was 9 and at this point Harry and Luna become kindred spirits who can understand and relate to each other because of their common experience of loss. Harry actually remembers now that Luna can also see thestrals.
In Half Blood Prince, Luna is of the very few D.A. members who actually responds to Hermione’s summons on the night Dumbledore dies, again showing her loyalty.
In Deathly Hallows, for as long she can, restarts the D.A. with Ginny and Neville and becomes one of it’s leaders,
Luna gives a very moving speech in tribute to Dobby after Dobby dies. Here, Luna shows her sense of respect.
Harry sees the portraits of himself of his friends that Luna has hanging in her bedroom with the words friends that she had painted. Harry would have been very moved by that.
After the end of the war, when Harry was tired and unwanting of attention, Luna created a distraction long enough for Harry to get his invisibility cloak so that he can move freely and peacefully. In this moment, Luna understands what Harry really needs and helps him get it.
Holistically, Harry views Luna as loyal, kind, respectful, and understanding.
Harry and Luna never had a fight or falling out, this proves how strong, meaningful and genuine their friendship is.
Woah can we just appreciate this comment😮
Lemme guess, your favorite character is Luna
Damn hop off she don’t want you lil bro
To be fair Sirius did confess to Harry that he regretted bullying Snape at school. You never find out if James had any regrets of his own.
He didn’t regret or apologised! He said he ashamed himself! That’s told you a lot that’s he didn’t want Harry to find out about their bully behaviour!
@@MMD_16-95 isn’t being ashamed and regretted the same thing ?
Lily didn't date James until he stopped attacking people for fun, (Snape was a special case because he never missed an opportunity to attack James) Besides, people mature in a different way from each other, meaning that James at the age of 21 may have become much more mature than Sirius especially since he became a father and had to hide for the safety of his family
@@MMD_16-95
Sirius has been away from civilization for 12 years. He's been imprisoned in a place known to cause madness. How is his behavior and personality supposed to mature
Anyway , I still see him as more mature than someone who works in a comfortable job and was acquitted of working for Voldemort which means he saved his neck from Azkaban yet still bullies a kid because he has the face of his father + plays the game of prejudices against anyone who isn't a Slytherin
@@maiosh6969
Wouldn’t you stopped to take justices from sexual assaulter like James?
Umbridge is my least favorite character, but my favorite well-written character. Reading book 5 stirred up so many feelings because of her presence and that’s a testament to Rowling’s talent
23:03 Snape hated Neville so much because if Voldemort had chosen to go after Neville rather than Harry, Lily would still be alive.
snap didn't know neville could've been the chosen one because he only heard part of the prophecy I think
@@romangalli2176 if he didn’t know that part of the prophecy how would he know to alert dumbledore to protect lily
That’s still no excuse though. It was completely beyond Neville’s control
Nah Snape is just an asshole... and he is probably proud of that facr :D
@@joeyjerry1586 that's the point, snape held an unreasonable grudge against neville because of events out of his control (similar to him hating harry because of james' treatment of snape)
Dumbledore lowkey knew that the only way for the Horcrux in Harry to be destroyed is by making voldemort kill Harry, but he took that risk knowing fully that Harry may either survive this or will die but he was definitely counting on Harry to live after the Horcrux was destroyed! And bout the hallows he definitely wanted Harry to find the hallows the right way and for the right reasons so I feel Dumbledore knew what he was doing and also he really cared and loved Harry.
I can’t lie I don’t think I’ve ever disagreed so much with a tier list lol, just weird to me that you consistently said you weren’t ranking based on how evil a character is but then would throw them in the bottom tier because you said they were evil? But hey to each their own.
16:31 a cycle of abuse you could say.
17:23 they gave unsafe, improperly tested magical chemicals to 1st years as a get out of class free card. Molly had justifiable concerns.
Snape is my personal favorite. He's fascinating, complex, entertaining, and the entirety of The Prince's Tale is a perfect plot twist that recontextualizes everything that's come before and makes you really think about Snape's actions throughout the series. He's not exactly a good person, and his pure hatred of Harry just because he looks like James(and probably reminds him of the loss of Lily) is absurd, but he's nonetheless an intriguing character to read about and watch. Alan Rickman's performance is equally phenomenal, and elevates the character.
Yeah, Wormtail is pretty terrible. I don't like evaluating characters based on the morality of their actions, but Wormtail kind of drops out of the story after he helps Voldemort return. He was bound to be eclipsed by more powerful people once Voldemort's army grew, but he only makes a few appearances between Goblet of Fire and Deathly Hallows.
I feel the same way Snape’s bullying of children is absolutely horrible but his character is complex and his backstory is especially intriguing and Alan Rickman’s portrayal of Snape was beautifully done.
@@justaweirdo3951 Agreed.
This is such a weird tier list. How is umbridge in the trash tier? That's like putting Grindelwald in trash tier cause he is evil.
The whole point of the character is to be hated by. In that sense it's a very good character
When it comes to who helped Harry the most between Dudley and Draco, Draco actually had the bigger sacrifice when it came to coming to Harry's aid in Malfoy Manor when he lied to Bellatrix while being surrounded by Death Eaters to prevent them from summoning Voldemort. Totally different levels of character redemption.
I agree he shafted Malfoy but M was definitely showing signs of turning at the end, but not able to get out.
Draco to me did more for Harry and in the end they made amends also Draco and Harry’s sons become best friends which made Draco and Harry come to see eye to eye for the first time they came to understand and respect ✊ each other in the end
I wouldn’t say it was a “sacrifice” what Draco did, yeah he didn’t say yes but he also didn’t say no. He was just scared to make a decision, so he didn’t make one. It was more of a “he helped by doing nothing” kinda thing.
Like Morgan said, he did it out of being a coward. He didn't do it to save Harry.
FINALLY, someone else who's favourite character is Voldermort. The half blood Prince is my favourite book because of the memories! I want a dedicated book about the entire life of voldermort, maybe even from his point of view
Tbh, even tho Voldemort is the main villain of the story, I just never really find myself hating him. 😂
Im not much of a movie geek, Im a gamer, but for the most part, I always hate villains in games… for their actions and behaviors (never the actor behind the character, and I also like how well written these villains are). Sort of a love hate relationship 😂
But when it comes to Voldemort, I never hated him the way I probably should for his oure evilness.
Same bruh I ❤Voldemort SO MUCH DEPT plus I finished half blood prince in like an hour
I just like his dark ways.
my favourite charater is Tom Riddel/Lord Voldemort
@@findingmyself32 makes sense based of your pfp
Man, you started strong lol I had to pause for a little bit to gather my bearings lmao
Honestly with the trio I couldn’t agree more though they had some very good qualities there were things that I didn’t like about them as well. But something I could not understand about them was their lack of honesty with each other and other characters like for instance how many times could they have told Hagrid if for his reckless behavior with dangerous creatures but never did? Sure Hagrid had that flaw but they often enabled it just cause they like him
If you plan on doing a second installment of this, some possible reccomendations:
- Cedric
- Dobby
- Kreature
- Founders of Hogwarts
- Sybil
- Firenze
- Antonin Dolohov
- Bill Weasley
- Charlie Weasley
- Filch
- Mundungus
- Griphook
- Fleur Delacour
- Igor Karkaroff
Side note: Would be cool to see this tier list idea applied to other series you frequently discuss (I.E. Hunger Games or Avatar)
You forgot a few
Headwig
Crookshanks
Mrs fig
Narssisa malfoy
Lusius malfoy
Mr olivnader
@@your-localcat.and.wolf.therian those too
@@IkeFanBoy64 viktor krum, seamus finnigan, dean thomas, kingsley shacklebolt, patil twins, lavender brown, crabbe and goyle, rufus, slughorn, xenophelius lovegood, flitwick, quirrel, barty crouch senior, aberforth, carro twins
Yeah
@@nathanfracasse6645 and regulus black
Dumbledore is my favorite character.
It's just that he is so flawed and he knows it. He set up Harry to battle Voldemort and you can say it's manipulative, but I thought more of it that he didn't have a choice and he felt that he alone would take the burden to send a boy to his death. He always made the hard choices even if he didn't want to do it (and I believe he felt terrible for Harry and hated himself for it).
Dumbledore feels like a tragic character to me, he thinks he deserves to be punished and would always burden himself and letting others out, and when someone found out they would hate Dumbledore, just as Dumbledore himself thinks he deserves.
Oh and btw...... I really don't like Neville, always founded him annoying..... Truly my least favorite character (next to Snape if I think about it).
for the harry one, didnt you make an entire video that was an anti argument to another video saying this exact argument
Honestly, even though Morgan was right about who Dumbledore was, it's why he's one of my top 5 characters in the Wizarding World.
He has a story that's full of regret, mistakes and trying to make up for them while also using his brain to pull the strings to ensure victory over Grindelwald and eventually Voldemort, even after he died.
Also, it's been clear to me now that Snape is one of my least favourite characters. I mean, a grown man who bullies and embarrasses children, especially Harry, as well as holding onto past grudges and never letting go of his stalker love for Lily is just too much. Yes, he's brave, but that doesn't automatically mean he's good, any awful person can be brave.
With Hermione, she can get really annoying. I know that if I went to a school with her, I wouldn't be friends with her. The most annoying part for me is her unhealthy desire to be the best and to be always right about everything.
With Minerva, she'll always be my number 1 favourite character, even when she does things like take away an absurd amount of House Points. Her moments demonstrating her care and affection more than make up for that for me.
I can say that it definitely changes your opinions on the characters when you see the movies and love the actors who play them
I couldn’t agree more about Neville. He’s actually MY personal favorite character in the series, because of his backstory, and his gradual development throughout the books, especially the final book.
I always hate when people say he should be in Hufflepuff. Yes, he is extremely loyal, but he is also one of the bravest characters, all the way back to the first book, when he was willing to fight his classmates to keep them safe and to keep them from getting in trouble.
Exactly! He’s so developed and we get to see a lot of personal struggles about him. We know him, our boy 😢
@@dmidkif I think he asked to be placed in Hufflepuff at a point
He deserves so much better
So happy the twins are in the top category! They are much needed characters and deserve all the love ❤️
16:56 to me, her being pretty harsh on the trio is what I think is great about her. I love the sassyness
For me there feels like a disconnect between tom riddle's genius and a crazy rageholic Voldemort
The horcruxes probably played a big role there. I’ve always found it interesting that Tom Riddle, who was supposed to be ridiculously intelligent, descended to a raving lunatic who made a bunch of questionable decisions.
@@AP0PT0SIS Yeah, I feel the same. The implications of creating a Horcrux were never really explained in depth, only that it kept you tethered to life. But I could imagine that creating even only one might make the creator mentally unstable, let alone seven. This is all just guesswork, of course, I don't think this has ever been confirmed.
@@brad5111 Yeah it’s a shame there’s no confirmed explanation, but I could never in a million years imagine young Tom riddle making all the same mistakes as Voldemort and losing to Harry Potter that easily. It’s like he was more competent as a teenager.
How can you say you base the ratings on how fun they are to read and then put dumbledore so low because he is manipulative and pulls strings? He's super interesting to read about imo
Love this video, even when I dont agree with you ;-) but your arguments are valid for sure.
I love Slughorns character. Would be fun to hear your opinion on him some day.
I agree with you on so much of this! Luna is my fav. Ron is my second and Ginny is my 3rd! (I like Ron because I’ve always thought he was funny, and I am also terrified of spiders)
Even in the movies for Cho, it wasn't her fault. She did that because of a truth serum. She had no choice. I always thought Harry overreacted to that and should have apologized for shunning her just because of that.
If you think about it, it makes a lot of sense that the trio are all in the mid tier.
they are essentially the three main characters, so they cant be as perfect as some of the other side characters. the story is focused on them so they need realistic flaws that balance out with the things that make us love them. its how main characters should be written, as much as JK pisses me off she was a damn good writer.
kinda cool you automatically recognize their flaws and dont put them as perfect just because they are the main characters, I really respect that.
During merope’s section when he said “she was still an awful person, let me explain “ I immediately got an ad for spectrum
You have Fred and George in the top, that’s all I needed thank you.
THANK YOU FOR THAT MALFOY HOT TAKE!!! No one else agrees with me
Malfoy is a tragic character. He put up a facade that he was a bada$$ and evil and would kill for the cause, but in the end he was just a product of his environment. He was made to believe he was better than everyone by his parents. As for his prejudice, he had that drilled into him since birth. You can't fault him for believing it. He was just a child. But when it came down to it he showed his true colours. He could've turned to the dark side but he didn't because that's not who or what he truly was. He wasn't evil, he was just scared for himself and his mother and father.
He talked the talk but didnt had the balls to walk the walk
@@PoolKid75 his parents werent that bad btw. they didnt beat him, they did not yell at him. in fact, they gave him everything he wanted.
Draco’s still my favorite 😍 bad boy along with Grindelwald 💙💙💙 they’re awesome to me
@@francheskajulien8799 draco almost killed three people trying to kill dumbledore
Poppy Pomfrey is one of my absolute favorites. So adorably stubborn, like that one fussy, wholesome aunt. Love it.
Why can't people listen when he says this tier list is his opinion and how he personally feels about the characters???
I also think Sirius is not given enough slack. He was tormented by dementors in Azkaban for 12 years and labeled as one of the worst people in the wizarding world. He was framed for murdering his 2 best friends and their child, something he would never do. Sirius has so many great qualities. He was fiercely loyal, willing to kill or die to save the people he loved, and he willingly risked himself multiple times for Harry in only a 2 year span. He escaped Azkaban just to find Harry and be a godfather to him!
As for his treatment of Snape (he didn’t really bully anyone else in the books), remember that Sirius came from a family of dark wizards and defied all of them. He was therefore very much biased against dark wizards, which Snape showed signs of being. Is that really such a bad thing? Think about how many other kids were raised by dark wizards and took their prejudiced beliefs! Sirius actively defied them as a child and bullied dark wizards in retaliation instead. He’s rebellious in the best possible ways.
He’s one of my favorite characters for sure, even if I understand the gripes Molly and Hermione have about him. I also understand the movies portrayed him in a far more positive light, particularly the fifth movie where he was such a great role model for Harry. One of the areas where I think the films beat the books.
"Is that such a bad thing"
Dont forget to close his zip when done, nigga
Also, what’s wrong with being a good listener and learner? Harry is sometimes sassy and has a bit too much hero complex, but without listening to others and having deep self-reflection, he stands out to be the chosen one and finished a tyrant once and for all.
After all the years I honestly think Snape wasn't obsessed, if he was then he must try to get to her somehow but he didn't neither he tried anything before or after she marry James, but he sure requested Volde not to kill Lili, and in her concern he went to Dumbledore to ensure her safety, not to get her for himself but to get her and her family to safety....
I personally wouldn't call it obsession......
What would you call it then? Cuz it certainly is weird. Like, when a girl get MARRIED to someone else, it is already overdue for you to start looking for others. He was a bit obsessed. He was too smart to do anything about it, and I assure you he wanted to get her back, but he knew that there was no way. Perhaps he had given up on her being with him. That still makes it pathetic. Look, he was not sad in the slightest for setting a death sentence on a child, it was only when it affected THE ONE person to ever show him kindness (because he was a terrible person), that he actually cared. Even then, it was ONLY about her.
Everything he did in his life, he did for this girl, that didn't actually like him in any way after an incident when they were 15 years old.
If it wasn't obsession, then I don't know what it was.
@@filip_aleksander_moen In my opinion, I personally think that's the purest shows of love and actually more sweet when you've worded it the way you did: Snape did everything he did, because he loved Lily.
Not because he wanted her to be with him.
Because he wanted her to live.
Literally, what benefit was there to saving Lily *and her family* if he wanted her to himself - nothing.
I don't see why doing an act of love, and not accepting anything in return, should be viewed as a terrible thing.
It's literally the one selfless act this terrible, terrible man commits.
I mean, what would you rather want him to do, “Oh? Lily Potter? Nah, it's cool, fam. She rejected me, and as a completely healthy individual that's able to move on, I'm totally capable of smiling as you slaughter her. Make sure to teabag the husband on your way out. Really just pants his corpse to be found later.”
Obviously, that's an extreme strawman, but essentially, that's what it sounds like you're arguing for, letting Snape's most defining act to either come out of nowhere or for him to do nothing at all. The former would still have fandom painting Snape as an incel simp, the latter would have deprived Snape of his depth.
@@filip_aleksander_moenYou do know that she was the only friend that was good to him without expecting anything in return, right? Long before he developed any feelings, she was his friend since 9 years old.
And since when loving someone is weird? It’s not like people can wipe away their feelings or something. As long as he didn’t act on them, who cares? Not to mention he was later responsible for her death. I highly doubt anyone would be able get over that guilt and regret. Sirius and Dumbledore are other examples within the story.
@@MichaelisBLee
It is sweet, don't get me wrong.
I just think that the fact that he has this ONE person in the world, as basically his only reason to live, is really weird.
I admit I worded it kind of harshly in the last comment. I am just tired of people redeeming his character because of that.
Love, in and of itself is a beautiful thing. But just because somebody's love life is so limited, it literally stretches to ONE person, does not necessarily mean it is some inhuman levels of love.
With that said, I think the misunderstanding is with my definition of obsession. In my opinion, he is obsessed with Lily. That does not mean it is hurtful to the people around him, but it is kind of destructive for someone to only care about 1 person.
If living for ONE person even after their dead is not an obsession, then I might have misunderstood the word :)
The "pathetic" thing, is not the love for Lily. It's just his incapability of loving others, to the extent of him only actually wanting to save Lily to begin with. Harry, and James are useless to him. He was full set on having Voldemort kill a baby, until he found out that the baby's mother incidentally was THE ONE person he was capable of caring for (maybe except Dumbledore).
As long as we can agree Snape is not a good person, and DEFINITELY did NOT deserve Harry naming his child after him, I don't think we really disagree :D
@@Cat_tiee well, if a girl you love from the depth of your heart marries a boy you hate from the depth of your heart. You probably couldn't imagine what that feels like.
I'm not saying Snape is a good man. He loved Lili not James, on contrary he hated him and Harry bcoz he looked like James and also had his personality a bit.
And his redemption is more than enough for Snape, he was a dick to Lili when she was alive, after her death he protected Harry bcoz he's her son. That's unconditional love, but one can say it's a border-line obsession.
I like how you reminded us how awful James is, he was the first generation’s Draco; a wealthy asshole who enjoys bullying mentally broken kids and ended up with someone who made them a better person
"He's a freaking psychopath and I love it"
I'm dying 😂😂
Neville getting the recognition he deserves! Yeeeeees! ❤ 😍
Bellatrix is a very entertaining character. Glad Helena got to play her, she brought the character to the screen perfectly.
Hot take: I think I’m bridge should be in the good tier, because she does a good job at being a bad character. There isn’t another character that I can think of that is worse than umbridge. She’s a bad person, but JK did a good job at making her character
And Madame Imelda Staunton did a brilliant job bringing her to life.
@@ChibiProwl True
I don't really think he based it on how well he thinks the characters are designed, instead how fun they were to read
@@lucanubis4119 Fair
This is what he feels about her character though. So it makes sense Umbridge is in the bottom tier.
This isn’t based on evil, but how good of a read they are? Dumbledore is a great read. But you rated him on his past evilness so that makes no sense lol
'Yeah, Voldemort it's with Dumbledore, go get it' 😂