Should You Avoid The 737 MAX?!🫣
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- Опубликовано: 8 янв 2024
- Do you think the 737 MAX is safe in 2024 or not? #737max #boeing #alaskairlines #boeing737 #737 #united #airplanes #airlines #airtravel #aviation #safety #aviationsafety #aviationlovers
I generally prefer the 737ng over the MAX anyway
Agree, NG was one of the best variant
@@piyushkanthak1087 Maybe even the best version of the 737
I swear older 737 still safer than new variant today...😅
The 737 isn’t that bad,sure its had its fair share of mishaps but that’s normal
Why?? The ng is noisy and everything rattles. Max is at least quieter. Still both a POS when compared to solid and very quiet A320
At this point the MAX fleet has flown 20 million+ times which means even had they not made any fixes, you'd still be just as likely to die from a plane falling out of the sky and hitting you on the ground (10,000,000:1 odds) as you would flying in a MAX. The anxiety may have been justified but now it feels played out and overblown.
You have NO idea how much I needed to read this.
Meh, if Air Koryo can keep their obsolete Soviet junk flying, and their main liner, the tu154, was banned from use by such countries as Russia and Iran, even with the latest problems Boeing can be considered as reasonably safe.
Just had another incident with a max just yesterday. Seems to be just the max I keep hearing about.
@HatsuneM1ku01 I know. I take a max 8 in a few weeks 😭
@@HatsuneM1ku01 what accident ?
"That would be JetBlue and Delta"
737 max 10: I have other plans ☠️
☠️
The issue here is that last-minute equipment changes and cancellations by airlines may force people to fly on B737 MAX aircraft if there are no alternatives available.
Then I won't be flying.
Thats why you avoid the airlines who operate such garbage. It shows that the airline does not give sh.. about the safty of passangers anyway. 737MAX should all go to the scrapyard.
@@patrickw6628 Please read my comment again. Your flight could get cancelled and you could be forced to rebook on another airline that uses the aircraft.
Ive had a scare on board a 737max when the pilot pushed the nose down at 30 degrees and -4000ft/min without informing the passengers. According to the pilot it was a careful manuvoer and i joked to him about MCAS which got some laughs
A -30° pitch would not be a 4,000fpm decent. It would be more like 5-10° depending on speed
@@JayJayAviation oh our airspeed was low, around half of crusing speed
You were on the Southwest flight, right?
@@youseflatif796 no qatar airways
@@yunuscurrie3410 your flight was completely normal
People: **thinking that the 737 max is the most dangerous commercial plane ever made**
IL-76:
737 Classic:
MD-11:
DC-10:
MD-80:
Boeing 727:
TU-134:
DC-9:
A310 (mostly caused by pilot errors and hijackers):
Tu-154:
Classic Death Chambers
the hull loss rate (an incident damaging the plane so bad it's not worth repairing) of a 737 max is 1.48 per million take-offs.
For comparison A320, a direct competetor to 737 max has 0.12
I flew Alaska 737 max and American 737 Max plenty of times since the last 2 years I was traveling. I will tell you the worst thing that happened was, there was no WiFi on one of the flights, and I couldnt submit my report on time for work. Fly Safe everyone! dont let the media stop you from traveling the world.
And Ryanair never shows the specific type of aircraft but if it’s a MAX the seat map will show 35 rows whereas the -800 has 33.
Flew it today and it was quiet and comfortable
While I'm sure they're perfectly safe... I'll be avoiding it from here on out. 😌😌😌
If they were perfectly safe there wouldn’t be a grounding
@@coopa2002Ah yes. Like every aircraft manufacturer haven’t had an accident. Less planes are having accidents while the number of flights has gone up.
@@Chevelled you’re negating the fact that these accidents (the plug door and the MCAS related accidents) are results of a design flaw and manufacturing errors, whereas most accidents overall are generally due to a mix of weather and pilot error.
@@Chevelled”every aircraft”-every aircraft that crashed are 80% pilot error. The remaining 20% are accidental (like the JAL a350 collision), mechanical-if it’s engine-related, Boeing/Airbus doesn’t make the engines; if it’s structural, they’re mostly been because of improper repairs (cue JAL flight 123 for example); BUT this 737-Max issue is due to Boeing’s criminally lacking of quality control on itself.
It’s not even part of the statistics that planes crash due to the manufacturer’s QC issues. Boeing made an entirely stat exclusive for them because so far, Airbus, Embraer, and Bombardier has QC standards competently high enough.
@@coopa2002 I’m not trying to disagree with you. I’m saying that there is no such thing as perfectly safe in logistics.
Google flights is generally good. Though there can be last minute equipment changes. I have been avoiding the max but as I fly alot I know it would be likely i could end up on one and I did a couple of days ago, just after the Alaska 737M9 incident Norwegian put me on a 737M8. I almost didn't go. But that would have meant a lot of inconvenience and I am glad I went. I thought to myself, they have good pilots and if they are happy to fly then so am I. The flight was very smooth, on time and no issues. Will I be avoiding it..yeah probably for a bit. Having said that being on a max is still likey safer than driving and and many other day to day activities we don't think much of.
Max 8? Wow... I probably would be cancelling/reschedule even if it means inconvenience. I'm a bit traumatized cuz one of the two crashed Max 8 was a plane from an airline in my country. I followed the news closely back then and it angered me so much how complicit the boeings staffs were in those two crashes. They intentionally forgo pilot training of the new features in the aircraft as a measure to cut budget and maximize profit, lied to those pilots and claimed it was basically the same aircrafts as their previous model and they didn't need to update their training 😭 it was such a sad day for us Indonesian
Fly, you will live or die.
I took a 737 max last month and it was fine.
I, too, just flown on the 737 Max 9 plane just last week, May 13th through May 18th. All was well...no issues...and I felt safe....prayers sent up to the high heavens well in advance, though🙏🏾. And this is coming from one who doesn't like flying✈️ at all.
@@MsVanillaSugar How marvelous for you....
i took one 2 weeks ago
I just flew on fly Dubai’s 737 max 8 from Dubai to Tbilisi on 8th June and returning on 13th June and it was pretty good, though I was scared on 8th June on the 737 max, but as soon as the plane took off, it was very smooth.
I flew on FlyDubai last week from Zagreb to Dubai, half way through 6 hours flight there was very distinct vibrations in equal intervals for about 10min on the back of the plane. Then it went away. I could feel the plane vibrate..Very strange as i never experienced anything like it when flying. It wasnt a nice feeling and i will not fly on that plane any more. When we landed in Dubai, there was a maintenance tech inspecting something on a fuselage with a torch. Wander what actually happened during the flight.
Well I can’t avoid the 737 Max because I fly them 😅😂😂
The same people worried about the 737max most of them drive cars, which are orders of magnitude more dangerous
The MAX is an objectively good aircraft. Its problem is that it's built by modern day Boeing
The 737 Max 8 (Original unsafe one) was in the two that crashed which it’s safety has been improved since then. It also doesn’t have the door plug that this specific 737 max 9 had a blowout in. The 737 max 9 with a blowout was only a few months old which means that there is some present manufacturing issues which means an issue with quality control, not a design flaw
I feel like quality control issues is just as bad of a problem as a design flaw is when it comes to aviation
@@Junimeek Quality control can be fixed with better management, a design flaw would call for recalling every plane and scrapping them or severely redesigning them
There is clearly a design flaw hence why it crashed twice and they had to install the Mcas software as the max from the beginning had a tendency to lift its nose due to Boeing rushing the design process when they created the max and just sticking a new bigger engine on pretty much the same size body of the plane as the previous gen which was suited to the original smaller engine, so the mcas is there to compensate the poorly designed flaws in the Boeing 737 max. Worst plane in recent decades from Boeing and airbus. It should be completely banned but profits and reputation of Boeing comes first
@@curtisjackson7814 I wasn’t referring to the original MCAS crashes, just the Blowout recently and the issue on the manufacturing line
lol what did they do? release a software update? I don't trust the plane for sh*t. the original literally activated MCAS if EITHER AoA sensor detected a stall. That means the chance of a catastrophic false positive activation was DOUBLE what it would otherwise be if they configured the logic properly. Even if that's Boeing at its worst, that's really, really, really f-ing bad. The plane was flawed from the start. You can't rely on software to fix fundamental aerodynamic design flaws. They would have done better with a new airframe
As an avgeek I wouldn’t feel unsafe at all on a 737 max but it is a questionable aircraft and Boeing does have some explaining to do. But I still love Boeing.👍
@@ItsMoStuff111 I'm rn feeling unsafe ;-; Im taking a 737 max in 2 weeks and have seen many videos about it's story. I'm so terrified and comments make me feel anxious and dumb for taking this flight
@@paulac7165 I will fly on one in exactly one week. If I survive, you will too. If not, the aircraft will be most likely grounded. So you won't fly on it and thus survive in any way😁
Just so you know millions have flown the MAX, even i flew one 2 weeks ago with Ryanair - if your in Europe just know Ryanair have never had any sort of crash
A week ago I traveled on one of these and at first I was very nervous, but then the plane is so quiet, smooth and comfortable that I thought it was a fantastic flight .
I suppose they were consequences because before boarding the 737 MAX, I had a flight from South America on an A330 in which there was too much turbulence. Apart from the takeoff and landing phase, I felt a lot of headache. In the MAX I didn't even realize when the plane began to descend until I began to see the city below the turbine.
Ha or Fly Southwest, which despite flying them (737s), has a FAR better safety record than all of the others.
Southwest is bigger than all of them and has killed precisely one passenger in 50 years compared to thousands by any other big airline.
SWA hires the best of the best formal military pilots. They have the best maintenance staff in the industry.
There is no reason to be scared of a plane crash or anything of the sort. You’re more likely to die on the way to the airport than you are on the plane.
737-200 and 737-800 were the two best variants in its timeline.
Reccently they call it 737-8
That’s because that’s the new designation. Old gen 737s are numbered for a hundred, so 737-800 is the NG
They already called it the 737-8
i don't care about it at all, I'll fly wherever is the cheapest
Even though the 737 MAX 8 was the one responsible for the 2 crashes at the beginning of the 737 MAX Lineup's, it hasn't had any major issues since it was cleared to fly again by the FAA in November 2020. The MAX 7, 9, and 10 though aren't so lucky. I won't mind flying on a 737 MAX 8, but i'm gonna steer clear of the MAX 9 for now until Boeing gets their shit together (If they even can)
Had two major issues last year that are under investigation.
Flew on one Thursday, flying back tomorrow on one. No sweat.
I went on the 737 max today on a flight and it was an amazing flight don’t worry guys
Pretty alarming a major yt influencer is avoiding the Max...
Speaks volumes
“JetBlue and Delta”
*me seeing JetBlue and delta 737s everywhere ☠️
JetBlue and Delta 737max's not 737
Where are you seeing a JetBlue 737?? 😂😂😂
Jet Blue doesn't have a single Boeing in its fleet
I literally booked a flight specifically because I saw it was on the max lol
When suicidal ideas become a little too fascinating😂
Honestly this helped me feel better for my second upcoming solo flight to my home country. I was gonna go through Frontier but based on negative reviews, I cancelled and booked with JetBlue. With the incident with Alaska airlines, I was worried and getting anxiety already. But, thanks to your tips, I'm confident on this trip. I heard some airlines are grounding the model 737 MAX to do some maintenance but, let's hope they do a very thorough check up on the models.
Short answer "Yes". Teach Boeing a lesson. Lives over profit.
No
It doesn’t affect Boeing in the slightest
I think we should wait for the full investigation report to come out, before pointing fingers and throwing all the blame onto a single party. I enjoy the MAX passenger experience, so I wouldn’t go avoid it like the plague, unless problems and incidents pop up every other week. Then that’s reason to avoid.
2 downed planes, killing hundreds, loose bolts news even before Alaska incident, then Alaska incident, only by luck no killing anyone, then news after news about other quality issues… and you need an official investigation???…. right.
Like we did for MCAS?
Exactly my thought.
Boeing doesn’t have a very good track record with their 737s
Considering Alaska and United found numerous aircraft with lose bolts, and Boeing is being investigated by the FAA it’s pretty safe to say that Boeing is at fault here
Finally, less people on my Southwest flights and more room for me 🙏 thank you Boeing for the mass hysteria so i can ride more comfortably 🥳😂
If you're afraid: dont fly.
Simple as that
Nah man I’ll be the opposite “If it ain’t Boeing I ain’t going” Am I really in trouble?
Thanks for the tip Dan! Quite worrying to see news around the MAXs
If its Boeing, i aint going
777,787,767,747,757
Multiple of them ? Why F not ? 😅
Boeing is safe, just a few aircraft have faults like the 737 maxes
Good luck getting anywhere
@@JayJayAviation Most EU airlines have majority of Airbuses so you will be fine.
@@JayJayAviationLaughs in europe. 😂
Thank you for this. This plane has honestly been one of the reasons I haven’t wanted to fly much recently even though I really like flying (though I’m sure flying one would be perfectly safe, it’s just not exactly giving me a great sense of security)
I think we are safe here in South Africa. Airlines here doest fly the Boeing. It's either Airbus or Embraer
If it’s not an Airbus, I ain’t going
So if you have a regional flight on a crj900 or e190, for a connection, you wouldn't go?
It's doesn't matter max or no max, the factory is the problem, profit over safety, it's not the aircraft it's the people building them, and withholding important information from pilots on there systems
I flew with 737 MAX for 7 hours 💀
I avoid them like the plague
How so? Even if you follow the advice in the video, equipment changes and cancellations may force you to board these planes.
Why
😂 dawg you probably still caught covid.
*All Planes* have their flaws and design issues
As a passenger? Not necessarily, but up to you.
As an airline? Hell yeah.
I love the max, its genuinely wonderful to fly on and those winglets are just *chefs kiss*
As a cabin crew I can assure you guys this plane is 100% safe. Boeing is generally most trusted company and 737 is a reliable plane which got checked so many times as its the most popular plane in the world. 737 MAX is just their new variant with even more amendments closer to the perfection than 737 NG for example. Pilots are trained to operate on them and know exactly everything that can happen and how to react because how this plane acts is very predictable. Most of the crashes/incidents are caused by untrained staff and pilots so if you wanna avoid any problems I recommend you should choose a trusted airline.
😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂 🤡 = you
most trusted, is not hard when its hardly any other players.
People in the replies trolling them even though they’re completely correct?
Generally ain’t good enough. They should put 100 percent into safety which they haven’t been and cutting corners for years. The safety rating might be up after the 2 crashes but it’s still unnaceptable in my opinion. Safe or not you do not cut corners when building commercial planes…any plane infact.
We need more Boeing planes like the Max-9 or Max-8. Airliner is the safest mode of transportation.
Lol, ho much is Boeing PR-department paying you?
Also one of the most pouting one.
Well avoiding the Max is not the way to go. I think is best to continue to hold the company accountable, continue to criticize the management until they restore the confidence of the public about the capabilities of the once renowned aviation giant and improve the work ethics and safety culture. Else the company dies. Be mindful that is just a small group of greedy executives trying to please the wall Street. Just know this, if Boeing dies American commercial aviation dies
After watching the Boeing documentory on Netflix i am pretty disgusted by Boeing management and thus avoid them as much as possible.
mcdonnell douglas promised a better military footing when they merged, all they did was fuck up the passenger planes. how evil of them!
what is the documentary names? im interested to watch it. thanks
@@ignwillie downfall: the case against boeing
@@boeing747avpure evil and greed
So how come Airbus hasn’t had any documentaries about their issues? Or did _Sully_ do enough damage?
Michael O'leary announced that passengers can request to avoid if the ryanair plane is a 737 max for an older plane and Ryanair will change their ticket to the next available craft for free
airlines in my country don't even use boeing narrowbodies so there's really nothing to avoid for me other than scratched af plane windows.
It sucks. Only Alaska air services ak so I’m stuck with Boeing
They should rebrand the 737 max into the DC-10 max. At least that would sound more appropriate.
You mean one of the safest planes ever just like the DC 10 proved to be
Just flew on a Max-9 today (Corendon Dutch), they have a different config than the one of Alaska. It's an incredible plane, and whilst safety must come first ofc, I trust aviation authorities and their decisions. Would never avoid a flight just because of the airplane operating it. I'd even be happy to fly on a Ilyushin or some other Soviet relic.
How’s it incredible it’s the same old 737 with more problems
LOL, how did you come to the conclusion that it’s incredible?
I also flew on a United 737 Max9, two days before the incident on Alaska Airlines. I also flew home on a 737-900. No comparison, the Max9 was superior in every category, especially a quieter cabin. I think the youtuber is fear mongering to get clicks.
The max 8 is an incredible to fly on nowadays imo, hopefully the max 9 issues get to a fair resolution soon.
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183Just his opinion, maybe because he’s considering the comfort and great experience it provides for passengers on its own.
the max is great for its quite engines though, right???
Feel safer on realy old 737 when Boeing built quality planes
But i am actually ready to flown onboard the Boeing 737 MAX in the near future at anytime because i have never flown onboard the MAX in my life.
The window seat can get a bit breezy.
Ryanair has 737-800 but not the 737-MAX-8
Now they do.
The engines are noticeably bigger and the wingtips have a 'v' shape on the max. This is how i knew i was flying a max back in 2021 even though they had changed their naming (should be illegal). I wouldn't have booked the flight if i knew it was a max. I would fly a max again only after i hear that all the engineers are satisfied with the quality.
That said, you won’t technically be able TO avoid it😂. In all honesty, this is a one off until Boeing and even Alaskan, need to be aware of hugely now.
This shouldn’t have happened, however you could say the same for cars. Are you ACTUALLY going to avoid particular cars? Tesla has had its issues with the whole self driving thing (we are not quite there yet😅), therefore until both airlines and manufacturers can check EVERY SINGLE ANGLE on their aircrafts, don’t say how can you avoid. That’s not good advice.
Yes in Europe overall, only a few carriers operate the B7M8 and I dk if any operate the new one, I think that just the US only.👍🏾
You forgot, Middle East, all airlines, excluding Oman air, Iraqi Airways and Qatar Airways‘ Middle Eastern destinations.
I'm traveling with FlyDubai in february...And the only option is Boeing 737 MAX 😅
Just pray
Could be a max 8.
@@KensoranAV 99% chance because their Boeing 737 MAX 8 always flies to my city.
Good. It’s a comfortable, safe and modern airplane.
Few on it fews times . Very smooth
Philippines Airlines, Cebu Pacific, Air Asia, Eva Air, and Air Seoul is also options
Weird that a major aviation RUclipsr is spreading misinformation. The plug door issue doesn’t even affect all 737 MAX variants. It only affects the MAX 9, which is a minority of MAXs that are currently operating. Southwest Airlines, which operates the MAX 8, literally didn’t even ground their planes because what happened to Alaska’s plane can’t happen to theirs.
You’re right
He’s referring to the MAX issues as a whole, including production issues and the MAX 8 accidents
@@JayJayAviation The accidents are not relevant anymore though. Those problems were fixed.
@@triple7marc true
@VladPutin88 Why is that exactly?
Yes, absolutely. Far too many incidents including fatal with this plane. And I’d go even further… if possible, better to avoid any new make Boeing as clearly their safety issues have developed in the last 4-5 years.
How many is that?
Only 3 accidents happened. Although that's worse than the usual airliner in the late 2010s/early 2020s
Do you drive?
Sure do. Couldn’t switch my flight to Dallas to a non-737 Max so I cancel my trip instead.
I love it when u say if china says it cool
I woudl avoid it right now, simply because there may be further delays issues while the NTSB/FAA continue their investigations
What happened last week?
Mcas-Might Crash any second 💀
Wow thats so correct
Although I've been on the MAX several times, it's becoming very concerning. I wish UA chamges their equipment for flight UA268. Ugh it's MAX.
I’ve been avoiding it since those fatal accidents a few years ago and I tend to fly airbus mostly. Don’t trust Boeing to put safety before profits.
@Pilot_gear747now you are just making assumptions. No way of telling that the MAX 8 is safer than the A320.
Also, with quality control problems, the MAX 8 that was so scrutinized and yes, is a safe design, doesn’t mean that production aircraft are of the exact same quality.
Look at this incident, I’m sure the MAX 9 is also an extremely safe aircraft, until they forgot to install some bolts.
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183Well actually he is right, the A320 has had a lot of crashes, both pilot error and mechanical
@@Adumzzinthehouse please, list all the mechanical accidents that made the A320 or one of its derivatives, crash? I’d love to hear about these “lots of crashes”.
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183He would, but RUclips forbids putting hyperlinks into comments.
Max jets are chronically stuffy and hot. Multiple airlines and the crew often inform us it’s the aircraft and they try to make it cooler. Not loved.
Delta does fly the 737-900ERs though
Those aren't MAXs, it's part of the NG fleet which is one of the most renowned aircraft divisions to date
@@adamaviation6236 hence the "though"
@@bgamer251 the concerns aren't relevant to that plane tho
Because China say its safe you think it is because it's a rival? Not because China would be limited in what else it can fly?
Because they would stand to lose from a Boeing plane being called safe, especially as they try to build their COMAC planes.
I think many people will agree with me when I say the 737 Max is the new DC 10. From what I was reading the 737 Max should have been totally redesigned, instead of just placing the larger engines on it. I think the two plane crashes they had could have been easily been avoided.
Yes, the airline didn't do their job!
I’m totally avoiding Ryanair so means will have to use Bordeaux for easyJet rather than Bergerac
I wanted to fly on one when they first came out, not any more now!
Why? Boeing is being held to a higher standard now and has been ever since the first B737 MAX incident. Their aircraft are among the safest to fly.
I find that Google flights trick very useful
And it turns out Delta and Jet Blue are two highest rated airlines in their class in the U.S.
I think the 737 MAX 8 is fine but the 737 MAX 9 has problems. I flew the 737 MAX 8 with Air Canada multiple times and I’ve never had issues. I love AC’s 737’s, they are very modernly refurbished.
Go Greyhound. 👍
In Asia SIA only flies the MAX8 not the MAX9, without the same plug door as the one on Alaska Airlines, while its budget subsidiary Scoot flies A320s instead
lol delta has the max
Not currently, and they won’t for several more years
Don't worry the next flight I'm taking is on an a380
We will never ever sit on a MAX, no matter how many times Boeing and the FAA reiterate how safe this piece of junk is. I wasn‘t surprised that the door plug separated from a 9 weeks old MAX and not on some other kind of plane
Yes!
I Flew it
5 times
The day the largest operator stops operating the 737 MAX, that's when I know shits got real
I don’t know what you mean
Lol it’s a shame that in this century Boeing made such a devastating mistake.
*_Thank you for flying with Ryanair_*
I avoid airlines that operate this plane .
After the initial two accidents, all the aviation bros were saying it'll be the safest plane in the world when it returns.🤡🤪
🤡🤡🤡🙄🙄🙄 You don’t even know what you’re talking about. The 737 Max 8 (Original unsafe one) was in the two crashed which it’s safety has been improved since then. It also doesn’t have the door plug that this specific 737 max 9 had a blowout in. The 737 max 9 with a blowout was only a few months old which means that there is some present manufacturing issues which means an issue with quality control, not a design flaw
@@Adumzzinthehouse enjoy flying on a grounded plane mr know it all. 😂
I live in turkey we got Turkish Airlines and Pegasus and they uses it🥶🗿💀
If I have a reasonable choice between the 737 MAX and an A320, I go with Airbus.
The MAX is a flawed redesign with some patches.
It flies fine
In India. Spicejet, airindia express and alaska air flies 737 max. Better to avoid :)
Why is it better to avoid?
The 737 Max door flying out incident, the door is made in malaysia