Boarding up Open Risers on Stairs | The Carpenter's Daughter
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- Опубликовано: 8 июн 2019
- This week, I show you how I boarded (or blocked) up the open risers on our staircase. The plan is to fit carpet to make it more homely, but I also need to then plan revising the handrails.
Here's what I used (*As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases made through links.
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Titebond 2 (as I already had it): geni.us/9pTt2U [Amazon]
Irwin clamps geni.us/4SaJ2HV [Amazon]
Nail plates from Selco bit.ly/2In0SuQ
Bosch combi drill geni.us/p72wo53 [Amazon]
Tape measure geni.us/XPttbb [Amazon]
Spirit level (as a straight edge) geni.us/w9v7AC [Amazon]
Erbauer circular saw *GIFTED: bit.ly/2XgrT9s
Sawhorses: • Making Strong & Cheap ...
Drill bits geni.us/4qc2 [Amazon]
Stanley combi drill (Mine's an older version) geni.us/YQuXs [Amazon]
Countersunk bit geni.us/OpUSTm [Amazon]
Wood glue (I used a sample bottle from Makers Central geni.us/dRhMB8w [Amazon]
ear defenders geni.us/FHBoeo [Amazon]
dickies fogbuster goggles (gifted): geni.us/PIv2X [Amazon]
dust mask geni.us/vyRCLox [Amazon]
combination square geni.us/elfacW [Amazon]
painters mate geni.us/mAmmB5l [Amazon]
bevel gauge geni.us/BHB99 [Amazon]
connector block (aka modesty blocks) geni.us/WbAqbA [Amazon]
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Hi Vikkie.This Video was the best I've seen.I too have a horrible open Staircase and I want carpet as well.Been racking my Brain for weeks as to how I could do this job and then I found you.Excellent Thank you so much Paul
I really do love the end result ! looks so fresh and neat x
Thank you Claire :)
Love these videos. Whilst some of the tasks are time consuming you make it look so easy!!! :) keep inspiring us all!
Thanks! This one was definitely easy :) Just needed to take my time to measure accurately for the bevel cuts 😊
Looking good! That staircase will probably feel even more sturdy now. Well done! 😊
Thank you. It's so much more sturdy :)
You made this look so straightforward! Thank you for the video
Thank you the steps to my basement are open , dirt, laundry and occasionally my foot has gone through because I am unstable on my feet due to cerebral palsy.. So it's a safety thing and my dog is a small boy he's scared of the open risers. You explain things beautifully. Thank You for your help I am had I found your channel! From Michigan USA
That looks amazing now. We have moved into a dorma bungalow which we are renovating and these are the exact stairs we have that need risers put in.
Another stellar project. Excellent job. Thanks for sharing this video.
Thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed 😊
Randomly came across your video. Very informative. Great presentation. Well done! I started watching all of your videos.
I’ve only just seen this video and seeing how easy you have made it look I’ve started on mine, thanks for the video
That looks a lot better than before. Great video again! well done!
Thank you :) So happy it's much more robust now! :)
@@TheCarpentersDaughterUK You are welcome. It looks indeed more robust now. You did a great job!
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Your husband is very lucky to have you do the DIY ☺️
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Great advice look forward to trying this on my own stairs keep up the great work
Good idea of filling in all the gaps. You could carry on by then having one flat panel on the back of the starts so it is just one slope.
Great video as usual.
Ooh... I have wondered about that but my husband said leave it. The stairs are much more sturdy and feel safer in general. Can't wait to sort the hand rails out and get it carpeted 😊
You are an advanced diyer. You have tonnes of energy which is something very important.
Excellent job! Exactly what I needed!
I'e been following you since December 2014, and with your videos i'm always inspired by you skills and knowledge; I'm suprised your not teaching people yet. Great work :)
Haha, thank you! I have mentioned to a couple of PR companies the idea where I teach other other bloggers (at press days) some basic things to get started with DIY. I've often been to foodie ones where they get a RUclipsr to cook a recipe using a certain kind of meat they're trying to promote, then we all have to follow along.
I think it'll happen, but DIY brands working with bloggers/youtubers here in the UK is still very young.
excellent video, clearly explained and demonstrated, will attempt this on the stairs in my garage
Great job! Next time pre-paint the bottom board, let it dry well, then fix using a thin plastic sheet between carpet and painted board. After fixing, slip said plastic out between carpet and fixed board and hey presto no need to cut in and possibly mess your carpet.
Another great video, Vikkie! A very popular banister style here in the US now is metal uprights and wood handrail. I've noticed in the UK, glass panels are a popular choice to replace the 'uprights' - in your case, the horizontals. 😜😎 I don't know what your budget is, but perhaps you could repurpose (add some character to the existing handrail) and add some new uprights. The reason banisters are so expensive is not the cost of the materials, but the time in figuring-out the angles, making everything, and installation. Whatever you decide, I'm sure it will be stellar! Good luck!
Thank you! I've always fancied glass instead of spindles, but assumed it's really expensive (and I hate cleaning lol).
However, I'll look in to it, but also love the idea of chrome spindles since researching last night. I've seen some easy looking installation ones where you just angle the attachment, then screw them in to place. I think they're called Fusion. Whether they're sturdy, I don't know yet.
I have those blue painted pants too!
Good job. Now I know how to do this.
Great, looks good! A succulent back!
Thanks! :)
We have the same 4” gap in the railing rule here in the US. Of course, railing posts usually have curves on them so it’s 4” maximum between the narrowest space between the posts.
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Thanks for the tips!! Very instructive for a novice!!
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That is a great job you really are flying. If I'm doing a fair bit of chalking what I normally do is bring a bucket of water along with me and a rag gun the chalk on wet the finger and rub the excess chalk off and into the bucket wash the hand off great for keeping clean and leaves a nice clean finish dont worry if the timber and wall gets a little wet. Super job you've done on the stairs very impressed 🤩
Thank you! Unfortunately I tried with a damp rag on another room and it seemed to leave texture.. but I *think* it may have been was a wet microfibre cloth. I had a washing up bowl of water on the floor, but so annoying to keep going up and down the stairs lol
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Old t-shirts are good but the rag is only for keeping the place dry and hands but carrying a bucket around can get annoying 🙄
Yes, very true! 😂
Great video! My stairs are pretty like this. Very out of date. However I didn’t know they’re where regulations for stairs in the UK. My stairs also have a gap between the wall of about 15cm. Any ideas on how I could close this gap?
That's a lovely spirit level.
Cheers 😄 It's a Wickes one... my parents found a kit of them with different sizes, brand new on a car boot. It also comes in a handy zip compartment pouch. Never seen them in Wickes though, so wonder if they're discontinued.
Excellent video. I have a mahogany staircase going into the loft and thinking of doing the same due to dirt constantly falling behind
My dream woman , fantastic job 👌
Haha, thanks so much!
another great job well done id recommend glass panels looks great clean and neat stairs will look good maybe buy a thinner handrail aswell theres loads of glass companys that have glass they dont want or just go with modern wooden pins inbetween the rail and stairs
Thanks for the tips! I've always liked the look of glass, but thought it looks tricky, so haven't looked further. However, I think I'll do more research on them :
Thank you for this video. This is exactly what i was looking for. i have stairs made with beech wood, what type of wood should i use for the risers? also if you can advise the width i should use. thank you
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Awesome job
Top job ! Carpet fitters will thank you for using a decent thickness of mdf, they’ll get a nice solid fixing in that.
Very true! 😄 Can't wait for a carpet and the mahogany looked dark and dated and the now painted surface forever needs cleaning 😂
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How's the MDF holding up? I'm trying to decide if I should use MDF, regular plywood or go for something a little better (some pine or oak).
Randomly came across your channel & this video! & we're in the process of buying a home that has those awkward stairs. Would love to see what else you do with them
Thanks and hope my journey will help :) Part of me wants to go the DIY method with spindles, but glass installed may just make it look more professional over all :)
I think u and the dog should build a house! Another very accomplished episode! P.S camper vlogs!!!!
My Dad has offered to show me how, so might take him up on the offer 😊 Will definitely be doing a camper vlog this Summer 😍
Time saver, instead of marking the 18mm mdf just set the square +9mm for centre for your screws. As for the handrail you can do what adrian said or install a glass balustrade. Good vids keep them comin
Thanks for the tip :)
Looks good! My only tip would be that a strip or block of wood behind the new bits - at the sides and top - will provide mechanical strength and will take the pressure of the screws.
Thanks for the tip :)
@@TheCarpentersDaughterUK You're welome. Hey, I see from another vid that your pooch is a border collie - or border collie cross. Me too. I've made a few doggy bed spaces for my boy. He'd be using that little nook under the corner steps ...
... and the reason I am getting back to you is that Lidl is currently doing memory foam bathmats for about £8 - and they are dog sized. My pup has one in his doggy den under my bed and seems to like it!
That's actually his favourite hiding space 😂😂 We used to have one of his beds in there until I built a kennel is he wants a time out. But I quite fancy revamping his space under here so if I'm passing a Lidl, I'll take a look :)
Really enjoyed this video but have to ask what the paint brand and shade is on your wall under the stairs???
Very helpful video!
This is really good thanks
Hi! Love your video. However I wonder if this way of doing it will prevent it from creaking? Seem a couple of videos where there has been left 3 mm allowing the step to move as it is wood. Or have I misunderstood it?
Thanks again!
Brgds Miki
Great job, I have just made a staircase and used a handrail top with 2 spindles into each step end..
Spot on
Thanks for the idea! :)
thanks, this video save my time
Nice work Vikkie 👍
Thank you :)
Just stumbled across your site after just painting our stairs!! you have now given me the idea to block ours in, thanks! Did you get round to changing the rail as ours are the same.
Glad to have inspired :) No, I didn't do it in the end, but I would've just gone with more strips to match the rest.
Great stuff! You're a pro with that skil saw now!! How's about toughened glass panels up the stairs so the maximum amount of light comes down the stairs. I bet filling in the risers has made the space darker. Just a suggestion!?
Thanks! I really do like the idea of glass :) Yes, it's a bit darker underneath, so don't want to panel it up. If not glass, I might do more research on spindles. Although I've now seen some easy chrome ones to install, but do wonder if they're robust. Might have to order one to see :)
The Carpenter's Daughter they are as robust as timber and less painting! Spindles are a nightmare to paint. If you do go for timber, paint before fitting. Or get square stock timber and router a detail yourself such as a stopped chamfer. I know you love your router now! And if you got the timber from your dads yard you could incorporate a quick tour too. His yard reminds me of where I served my time 😁
Sounds like prison 😂 And I really like the idea of another router challenge! Although I can see it driving me a bit mad trying to get everything to match but I do like challenging myself where I can :) I'm not keen on painting spindles either lol
You have a good eye for detail and very meticulous in measuring and getting it right it’s a shame you don’t live in the Midlands I could offer you a job tiling fitting kitchens bathrooms
Ha... I do live in the Midlands now 😂 But am happy pottering around on my own house... much less stressful I think than trying to please customers 😄
I do stairs at work you thought about hand rail bottom rail and spindles , some nice caps oak maybe with knewls staying white would look nice
Thank you for the ideas :)
Hi, great demo videos. What kind of home drills/impact drivers would you recommend?
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Excellent job. I wondered if you jade to measure each riser separately, as I imagine they are seldom the same.
I also think you ought to reintroduce the little jig at the end (that's the dance and not a guide for a router!).
I measured them all to start off and they seemed to be the same. There were some minor discrepancies, but filled them with the painters mate :)
Nice work, I bet they are a lot more sturdy now as well.
Regarding the handrails, if you are happy with them as they are you don't have to bring them up to current regs. We don't have any rails at all on our stairs, been that way since the 50's, much prefer the open space it gives.
Thanks! Yes, so much sturdier! I'd feel safer with more rails. Hans has fallen down the bottom steps s couple of times while barking at things outside :(
@@TheCarpentersDaughterUK Ah fair enough, gotta keep him safe!
Couldn't help but laugh as he didn't hurt himself, but when he's focused, nothing else exists 🙈🙈
That bracing underneath the broken step was absolutely essentially. A glued crack like that is not a safe repair for something load bearing. Personally I would have replaced the step. Just who thought it a good idea to join two pieces of wood with a butt join with only one end supported, I've not idea, but it's bad practice. At the very least it should have had dowels fitted along the joint.
Thanks for the video, easy to follow and going to try and tackle ours very soon! Just wondered if you ever did the railings as we have the same problem on our stairs. After being quoted £7k for new stairs we thought we would do it ourselves! Thanks! :)
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any idea how to put risers in place if the back of the stairs is not accessible?
Hi Does anyone know what wood these stairs are made of?
How best to paint white? Sand by hand, sander or can i strip the varnish off with a heat gun or paint stripper?
Wow you really are keeping busy, looks fantastic someone said glass panels you can get the same effect with acrylic sheets or Perspex they’re lighter than glass and doesn’t shatter if you knock it with the Hoover ...... but anyhow keep it up
Thank you :) Now I have a circular saw, I feel like I can make projects in better time 😊 I will look for glass prices and see how much it could cost for someone to install and compare to spindles. The only thing I'd dread is glass looking dirty too quickly as Hans likes to sit on the stairs and look out the window 😂
The Carpenter's Daughter ..... oh yes that is a point, but then again saying that there is nothing wrong with a bit of nose art lolol
Hahaha, he'd totally agree with that 😂😂
B&q sell decent spindles etc but dont get the primed white mdf ones, the prime is a soft sheen finish that i found needed a full rub down before i painted it! Hard work on turned spindles!
I believe Tim from the restoration couple has also had trouble with the same pre primed spindles in one of his videos.
Thank you for the tip! Will watch Tim's video today :) Also curious what he thought of the metal spindles I've seen online which look much easier!
good work, the only advice i can give on the banister is have a look at what Tim has done over on the restoration couple`s channel if you haven`t already.
Thanks so much! I'll watch it fully today for inspiration... had to watch with no sound last night as the TV was on 😂 But his stairs runner really inspired me when I found it last week. I may not use that route, but he made it looks fairly easy, providing I gave it time and patience :)
You stated as a reason why you wanted to close your open treads exactly the reason why I wish to close mine: dirt! It's made even worse by the fact that I share my house with a black cat that could shed fur for England. However, while you wish to carpet your stairs, I'd like to remove my carpet, strip the paint, varnish and lacquer (if that's the correct word for the stuff that seals the wood and makes it wipe clean) the wood.
Nice one 😎👍
Thanks! :)
Good job 😊😊
Thanks! :)
What is the add on on your saw called? I've been looking for something like that to cut straight in an easy manner but can't seem to find it anywhere.
Another good task , would just paint it , won't effect your house . All these new regs only apply to new builds. Spose you could buy the cheap spindles if you wanted or box it in and plasterboard it 😜😉👍 cheers.
Thanks! :) I quite fancy a spindle challenge now 😂 Even if I just buy chrome ones and cheat 😄
Stainless steel wire? Just need a couple of anchors and a load of screw eyes. Either horizontally or vertically orientated. Nice modern look to match the white stairs and relatively simple to fit (just a lot of drilling and some good marking up to make sure everything is in the right place).
That's an interesting idea! :) I've seen someone fix rope which looked cool :)
The Carpenter's Daughter once you fit a load of screw eyes you can fit whatever you like between them- steel wire, rope, could get some thick electrical wire and strip the plastic off so you just have thick copper wire, could even use leather rope or paracord (rope but nice and thin although I'm sure you weren't thinking of anchor grade stuff when you said rope! Although.....)
what a women! my partener wouldnt know how to use the drill! haha good job!!!!
😂 thanks :)
looks good. You could put more rails in to take up the gap. Or put in a new handrail and spindles. The spindles would sit on the steps (2 spindle to a step looks about right.) This is an open ended stairs. But would be harder to do. keep up the good work.
Thanks! I've since been looking in to the chrome spindles which looks fun and then seen wooden ones after someone suggested the restoration couple. I feel more confident to try now, but glass sounds very bright too (I just don't like the idea of needing to clean it all the time lol
@@TheCarpentersDaughterUK Hi I look forward in seeing the handrail video keep up the good work.
Thank you :) It might be a few weeks until I get round to doing something, but up for a challenge!
Great job
Cheers!
Thanks so much :)
@@TheCarpentersDaughterUK you're most welcome
the steps on my stairs somewhat is a combination of metal and a slab. any idea on what kind of approach to do? Forgive me for being silly and I don't seem to have any idea on what are the technical names.
most of the videos I found are stairs made of wood and no metal stairs. Hope anyone can help me with this.
Regarding the hand rails . . . one option would be to insert one or two additional rails to reduce the gap, and then paint them a contrasting color, like the wall below the staircase. The rails wouldn't necessarily need to be exactly the same width, as the contrasting color would intentionally highlight the difference. Grey and white really go well with each other.
I like the idea of them intentionally not matching!! :)
*the other banisters
@@TheCarpentersDaughterUK - You already have the beginnings of an all-horizontal rail system, with the two wide rails below the top rail. Possible options . . . wide-narrow-narrow, wide-narrow-narrow. Or simply wide-narrow-wide-narrow.
Will get planning for this soon :)
Just run some some steel cable / wire rope the length of the handrail. It will only require 3 runs and will maintain the simplistic look of it. Love your channel! New subscriber.
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Another great video. Have you found since adding the risers that the stairs noticeable flex less or not so much? Keep up the great work cant wait for more videos :)
Thanks! We've noticed they are so much more solid now! :)
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What type of wood did you you to enclose with
Another cracking job 👌decorative panels would be nice down the handrail side but want it open maybe toughened glass panels fitted. When can you start mine?? 🤔🤔😂😂😂
Thanks! I love the idea of decorative panels now you've said that! :)
3:27 You know that you had a whole staircase full of shelves in front on you?
But in all seriousness I have a fabric bag for life where one handle fell off. I use it for jobs like this. I leave one screw partly out and hook the bag on the screw. When I need to move further up, move the bag to a higher screw and drive the sticking out screw home.
what a great idea!! Also kicking myself I didn't hook a bag on the end of each step's lip lol.
I did use the steps as shelves, but did't film the one I was referring to at the very top when I had no shelves left ☺️
Nice job
Thanks :)
Did you cover the back of the stair with a panel? I'm going to closes the open risers but I want to also put a panel on the back of the stair but don't know what kind of panel to use. Any tips or recommendations?
No, I've left it as it is. If you have space, I would stud it out, then board it up.
The Carpenter's Daughter I have un used space under the stairs and I would like to build some shelves to store some things and organized more in the house.
Brilliant! now I know this can be done it will not put me off buying a new home with these scary stairs and I will just find a super carpenter instead!!! Vxx
what a curious staircase!
Lol... and they're in a really stupid place! If the owners partitioned a wall in the living room and not this small box room, it would be a 3 bedroom bungalow. We were originally going to move them, but I'm a long way off anything like that :)
you're doing great!
so weird the things people do to their houses but hey it gives you content undoing it all!
I'm not a fan of open stairs, what were they thinking?! Is it a 1960's house? It looks great now, good luck with the rest of it.
Thanks! You're very close.. it's a 1952 build, but we think the stairs were put in in the 70s. But they would've been best placed in the living room with a partition as the previous owners sacrificed a small bedroom. So it's technically still a 2 bedroom bungalow, when they could've made it a 3 bed.
Thanks, interesting. Going from 2 to 3 beds adds a massive jump in value so an odd choice by owners past!
We thought so too! We've been talking about moving the staircase for years, but would rather learn myself and it looks very very scary, so would need my Dad to help (at this stage at least) who doesn't have time. Although replacing floor joists looks like so much fun 😄
crazy combo, mahogany and MDF .
How much weight can a 2x4 hold?
nice.. i can apply for my house
How you liking the Erbauer circular saw Vicki ?
I love my circular saw! :) I don't think I'd be disappointed with a cabled one. But unfortunately have misplaced the port adapter, so have ordered one to attach to my Hoover as it's been raining hard this week :(
you are so awesome
Thanks ☺️
What kind of boards did you use ?
Mdf
Great video but I was curious why you didn't use pocket holes for the top screws? That way you wouldn't have to drill holes in the treads as the backs would be secured from the bottom.
Thanks. I don't think I owned one. It wasn't until I built my coffee table until I bought one.
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when you were drawing the lines for the screws I probably would have set the square to half the width of the board and drawn the line where the screw is going rather than the boundary, gets the same result.
How on earth paints mahogany?. It is such a lovely wood it should be varnished to show off the wood. As for building regs, they only apply to new builds, so unless someone changed your stair rails after the house was built you don't need to do anything to them. However, if you are intending to start a family then I would suggest sorting them out ASAP.
Thank you :) Unfortunately it was me who painted it to brighten the room yo a few years ago 😂 The room was very dark and we were on a budget. As for the banisters, I'd feel safer shrinking the gaps :)
Copper pipe or chrome on the stairs would look fab 🍀🌈
Thanks for the ideas :) I do like the look of the chrome ones 😍
You do know you can buy drill counter sink combined now ?
Yes, I bought some on Friday for the future :)
Whats the name of the "Wood-like" material used?
Mdf , i was wanting to know as well and she answered below
Hi you all! I need an easy way to boarding up my open risers (no hard dangerous tools required). Can someone help me? A video or a homedepot solution item?
Just use a hand saw and clamp to a workbench. Sand your cuts smooth if needed.
Was there a reason you were screwing the screws in with Hammer action on the drill, or accidental?
It wasn't accidental. My screwdriver wasn't powerful enough, even after predrilling, although did ruin a few screwdriver bits :(
@@TheCarpentersDaughterUK Oh cool, I've never thought of that to help!
It just got the job done quicker. It's not the most cost effective way though and others have suggested I get an impact driver :)
Top job. :-)
Thanks very much :)
I have installed a beautiful balastrades from Richard burbage on my stairs. Maybe you could do a similar project on your stairs and get rid of that ranch stile hand rail.
I've been looking at them and love how incredibly easy they look! Can you adjust the angle on the top of the mounting pieces?
Yes all angle connections are adjustable. Instructions are provided when you buy😆
Brilliant!! Now the battle is to convince my husband 😂😂
Very nice job beaut ,I'm a bit concerned with how loud your drill is with all that ppe tho lol. How about spindles on the stairs and show your wood turning skills. Keep the great vids coming x
Ah.. I just couldn't be bothered to take the eardefenders off most of the time. It's a toss up between glass or spindles, but wouldn't have time to learn how to make all spindles equal.
@@TheCarpentersDaughterUK glass would be cool but pricey, what about mdf with some fancy router work? Whatever you decide it will be a top job x
Very nice job you are very handy 😊👍🏻
Thank you :)
Perhaps not to everyone's taste, but you could measure up some eyes on the under side of the bottom rail and the top of the steps to creative a zigzag of white nylon rope from the top to the bottom ensuring there is no gap larger than the 100mm. Just a thought.
www.ropeservicesuk.com/20mm-Polished-Chrome-Eye-Plate---Rope-Fitting?language=en¤cy=GBP&gclid=CNuVusfr3-ICFcPhUQod1bkAag plus www.ropeservicesuk.com/ropes/10mm-white-8-strand-nylon-rope-50-metre-reel ... as an example.
mdf shouldn't be used for this purpose. If it gets wet, it will warp and lose integrity. Also, rather than screwing in from the top of the stairs, it's more seamless to use pocket screws from behind, screwing up into the tread.
MDF is fine for risers if it’s going to be painted. You wouldn’t expect water to be sat on them like you might a kitchen floor. Agree about pocket screws though.
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