THANK YOU for talking about the OK KO crossover. Sonic was an horribly narcissistic jerk in this episode, and made it seem like he never cared about Tails at all. Sonic constantly gloating about how great he is, replacing his best friend for a random kid he just met… it’s by far the worst Sonic portrayal ever and is so disrespectful to his character. This is meta era Sonic at his worst.
@Kian IDK, OK KO seems to be a show where the personalities are pretty exaggerated for the sake of comedy rather than sonic being unironically a jerk fleetway sonic is my least favorite interpretation of sonic by far
@Kian Nigga it's just a crossover episode, he doesn't have to be in character when it's really just to throw nods at the series, that's like complaining about robot chicken because it does the same thing.
@@cozmactudioz9924 It’s because it’s a crossover episode that he should be in character. Crossover episodes are made to please fans of either party and expose people to the new character possibly for the first time
I totally agree, the people who characterised sonic in this episode must've only ever seen him talking to the villains as opposed to moments he's with his friends, that's only a small fraction of his character
@Kian Even Satam Sonic wasn't as narcissistic as OK KO Sonic, and while he was pretty immature, he was arguably one of the most emotionally open interpretations of the character and knew when to cut loose or get serious.
@@Zaylio It's almost like this is a random crossover episode that's really just made to have references, that isn't connected to the actual series that exaggerates things for comedy even if it isn't funny.
@@cozmactudioz9924 I understand that Ok Ko Sonic is exaggerated but that doesn’t excuse his bad characterization, even if it is a crossover episode. That’s literally the whole point of the video.
@@cozmactudioz9924 You can have random crossover episodes that's only really made to have references and isn't connected to the actual series with exaggerated aspects and STILL not mischaracterize the characters from the series you are drawing them from. Crossovers of this nature have happened for years, it isn't hard to do
That's an extremely fair opinion on the Crossover. One could argue it's not meant to be taken entirely as fact and super seriously since it was a one off crossover special for an otherwise unrelated cartoon. I mean, Sonic here is caricatured and has some traits pushed to 11 mostly for comedic effect and cool action. However, I do completely understand the frustration that comes with Sonic not being portrayed as he's supposed to be, as he has been portrayed incorrectly more and more often as the Meta Era continues. To some degree, I feel the same way. I completely prefer the Heart that Sonic and his stories had during the 2000s and most recent media, including this, has essentially forgotten about that. Of course, I still loved the episode myself, but a little part of me was kinda sad they went with the Meta Era characterization. I wouldn't go as far as saying it's his Worst Portrayal, but it sure isn't the best. Great video.
Having only seen it twice right when it came out, I couldn't think of why his portrayal could be so bad. But after this I 100% agree. Kinda reminds me of how he acts towards Tails in the Fleetway comics.
Ngl I like Fleetway Sonic. He’s a jerk but there’s something about him that I like. He still a hero, he’s still cares about his friends and is selfless but seems more like a hormonal moody I’ll tempered teenager than a narcissistic douche who only cares about fame and glory
@@fnaf2isthegoat75 same here. I enjoy Fleetway Sonic way more. He’s a jerk no doubt and kinda pushes the line at times but he’s still a heroic person. He just doesn’t have a good personality
Fleetway sonic literally attempted to murder his friends multiple times, burnt down a mansion with sonic protected so he could kill him personally and destroyed an entire bar in the special zone. I don't think he acts like a modern fleetway AT ALL💀
A big issue I have with this episode is Tails’ conflict. The show seems to believe that Tails being Sonic’s sidekick is an actual job (even though it isn’t). Tails being extremely insecure and clingy about it is extra insulting, because Tails shouldn’t care about it in the first place. Tails is Sonic’s friend, who shares heroic attributes. In purpose, he is a sidekick, but in-lore, he is as much of a sidekick to Sonic as Bucky is to MCU Captain America during the Infinity Saga; a tag-along with his own trials who helps out a friend where it’s necessary, and not because he SHOULD. I think it would just be nice to see an independent Tails who helps Sonic because it’s the right thing to do, and not because of an arbitrary sidekick label.
I still like the part where tails taught k.o. the spin dash. I heard that tails was the one who invented the spin dash or I believe that the sonic 2 manual states that tails came up with it. Either way the show kinda shifted tails characterization in lost world and made him start off as a jealous sidekick to a relatable/approachable mentor figure to k.o. Sonic even compliments tails later on and he didn't end up being an egotistical jerk like in lost world. So I wouldn't say it's the worst portrayal of tails. Just solid as the show's canon.
@@crimsonzone8984 Exactly. Honestly, there’s WAY worse than this show’s treatment. This show doesn’t even scratch the surface because hell, at least it had some nice moments. Stuff like Lost World and Forces especially comes to mind as worse candidates.
I seriously question how writers can get Sonic’s character so very wrong! When it comes to Tails, Sonic is often the guy that praises him the most, Roger knows that well to the point where Roger’s Sonic constantly praises Tails in the Twitter Takeovers, not to mention the fact that this is supposed to be an adaptation of the same character who “doesn’t need a reason to help a friend” (sure that is an Unleashed quote but it IS still canon). If this had been Boom Sonic, then sure whatever… he’s an over exaggerated version of the more egotistical side of Sonic’s character… but they used actual Sonic in this show. Heck, even Sonic X was more accurate than that, and even gave him some attitude without being an ass. All in all, I hate how they handled Sonic in this episode.
@Kian Yet, I’d argue that Boom Sonic still has more moments of caring about his friends than OK KO Sonic does with Tails… that could be because Boom Sonic had a whole series, admittedly, but Boom Sonic isn’t usually as toxic towards Tails… although neither is a very accurate depiction of the mainline Sonic.
@Kian sonic is egotistical what? That's literally a part of his cockiness do you even know the character? He's a wiseass who like complimenting himself as well. He is about freedom but he's just more than just a hero
At least 2010 game sonic cared for others. Like in Lost World, Tails gets captured and Sonic starts feeling really bad that he just bopped his little dude into a trap.
It's a comedy show where they intentionally over exaggerates issues for the sake of a corney lesson I really dont see them stepping up Sonic's jerkiness in this episode as a huge issue definitely given that everytime he is a jerk it's played as a joke and not as some kind of real issue where he doesn't want to help anyone. When he yawns when tails is praising tails it him joking about being jealous to make tails feel a but better knowing that he managed to make him jealous Basically all I'm saying is how are u just gonna skip the Fleetway Comics as Sonic's worst interpretation he is literally just a cruel mean bully during the entire comic run like down right unbearable while in OK KO he is still the likable goofy cool dude who likes to crack jokes and boast about himself but never as a overbearing jerk but just because it's who he is
Somebody that understand fleetway is definitely worst he barley cares about anyone if where being serious I feel like fleetway sonic would actually let tails die and would barley care
Fleetway Sonic isn’t the worse portrayal, you have to actually read and understand it. He is an asshole but he isn’t gonna let someone get kidnapped like at the beginning of the episode. Fleetway is a one of “nice characters with a very horrible way to express himself” kinda guy in my opinion.
Honestly I never actually knew about this until this video. I think he was a jerk in this episode. He isn't like this in the games, he might be arrogant but as you said it depends on how much it is. Also he didn't even care about tails
1:19 Imma be honest, i actually think sonic was portrayed well in forces. Hes confident in mocking the villains, but also building his friends hope and confidence. Hes supportive, and despite all the crazy things that happened to him over the game, he never shows an ounce of fear or doubt, constantly shining a light, a light of hope💪🏾
No he was not portrayed well at all. Even when he makes fun of eggman for not having friends is very out of character. There is a reason why the Japanese script made changes to the dialogue in their version, because the story and characters don't make any sense in the English dub.
@@SuzukiCabs "He was not portrayed well at all" Alright then, fill me in, what is the criteria for a well portrayed sonic? What are the traits he must have and actions he must do? Please include 5 points on both traits and actions. "Its very out of character" What is "in" character for sonic?
@@SuzukiCabshow is it out of character for him to make fun of Eggman? He was doing it from the start. Heck, in Adventure 1 he called him a loser. And of course he doesn't have any friends he was almost going to destroy the planet with the sun. I can't see people hanging out with a person like that
What also really bugged me about this episode was how they brushed off Knuckles giving the Master Emerald to the villain as a “Yep, that’s Knuckles” moment when that is something this character has literally never done in the canon of the games. He never even handed over any Chaos Emeralds in any of the games he was tricked in despite him getting his hands on them quite easily. Not to mention Angel Island literally falls out of the sky and starts sinking into to the ocean when the Master Emerald is removed, there is no way he would just risk that for a museum exhibit. I’d argue this is almost worse than Sonic’s portrayal considering Knuckles didn’t even have to show up to get his character assassinated.
Even at his worst in the Meta Era, Sonic was teaching the Avatar how to be brave, pay attention and attack when fighting Metal Sonic in Sonic Forces unlike OK KO Sonic. Also we have to remember this is a crossover that always mess the characters personality up for entertainment
Jason Griffith era Sonic is probably the peak of Sonic's personality. He was much more than just an arrogant jerk. He actually loved and cared for his friends, and most of the time put others first.
@Kian Even as early as Sonic's conceptual days, he was made to have an attitude and cockiness. Which one could interpret as arrogance. I do agree though that he wasn't meant to be a jerk, yet many times Roger's Sonic has been portrayed as such. That's even my opinion coming from someone who likes Roger. Anyhow my statement about Jason was made to contrast other portrayals of Sonic.
@Kian True, once again it's certainly how someone might interpret it. Sonic when around his friends, is very kind and caring, and that's the problem with the more recent version of Sonic. They make him out like he is solely a sarcastic and arrogant individual who is only interested in inflating his ego. The fact that the newer Sonic has been known to ignore, and even downright doubt his friends at times is pretty sad. It's not too late to correct Sonic's current personality, but they need to stop investing all their chips into making Sonic overly confident, and make him go back to caring about his companions.
i disagree about the point about why sonic is arrogant during the sonic-eggman dynamic Mini analysis here but; Sonic does not always know he can beat Eggman. When the going gets tough, Sonic also knows when to throw on a game face (i.e Egg Beetle and Egg Dragoon). I feel like the real reason he’s cocky towards Eggman is because that arrogance and assuredness is how he deflects pressure, and how he alleviates the people around him. He’s a free-spirited guy who defines self-assuredness. Even when he isn’t sure if he’ll win, he tries his best and puts on a smile, because that’s what he can do. Even against Merlina, he smiled, with his legs shaking, because that determination is all he could do, and all he believed he should do. In tandem with the video essay, I believe that Sonic’s arrogance should be used in a way that alleviates others, and helps him directly challenge even the most terrifying odds. I definitely agree with you, but I wanted to throw my two cents about the Sonic-Eggman dynamic, because I feel like Sonic belittling Eggman like he does in Colours is not the right way to go about it.
At first I was going to disagree with you, but now I see what you mean. Sonic is indeed arrogant towards Eggman, cause well it's Eggman. And yeah, he may act a bit cocky around his friends but he would always keep their safety at heart and care for them. But at this show, he was indeed out of character.
This feels like the case of references for reference sake. Portraying Sonic nowadays now just feels like stuffing your face with references in hopes to please fans. References like these can feel very shallow, surface-level, and basically just a way to tickle the fanbase's nostalgia bones. I'm honestly afraid sonic will become this "Remember green hill? chemical plant? spindashing? the OVA?" no matter how obscure a reference may be, doesn't distract from the fact that the actual media itself needs to be able to hold its own.
Honestly it’s his personality I’m the universe of ok.ko it fits the show perfectly and he bounces off of ko really well. I can see why it’d bother some but to me it doesn’t. Cuz it’s not main line sonic, it’s ok.ko sonic
I LOVE OKKO let’s be heros, always was an underrated show in my eyes. The sonic episode was a great spotlight that shined, showing people the show existed, cuz CN wouldn’t lmao Now, for the idea of sonic not being the most fleshed out and interesting character, I mean, yeah. The show is a comedy show, so they aim to make stuff funny, and they only have a couple minutes to do so, not to mention this was a one time thing, so I’m not even upset about Sonics characterization in this episode. By the end he is really cool, and the big yawn was funny af bro. The only part that got me thinking was “huh, why is sonic just chillin sleeping? He’s not gonna try to help him out?” But you gotta remember, KO offered to go first to save his friends, and sonic tried to explain how to do a spin dash, but he isn’t too great at explaining, giving tails room to teach KO. I personally think you’re overthinking this one, no disrespect, but I understand why you might say this is the worst sonic. I simply don’t think it’s that big of a deal to even justify counting it as characterization that much, but that’s just me.
yes I will agree I mean the fleetway comics is the far worse interpretation of sonic even if this wasn't the best I is extremly clear that this was them making fun of sonic in the 2010's I mean sonic boom did it.
I totally agree, back when this episode was first released, I was acting just like K.O. I was super excited about the fact that Sonic was gonna crossover into a CN show. I never even cared about the show itself (still kinda don't tbh), but I only wanted to see this episode for Sonic and Tails, along with all the references. But seeing this episode now, I can see how Sonic is written poorly, having a bigger ego than normal and being douchey to everybody, instead of being that fun, lovable hero.
I remember getting HBO max to watch this episode but realized it was pretty mid. They didn’t feel like the characters from the games at all. Tails was hella jealous for whatever reason, Sonic was very arrogant and lazy.
Honestly, I really don’t mind Sonic in this episode. The whole point of OK KO is that it’s a fun, lighthearted, comedic cartoon, and the characters are meant to be very exaggerated. This is supposed to be a crossover episode, and that’s what’s important.
true though, like, why does he have to treat tails (this one 8 year old kid who LOOKS UP to him) like a complete A-hole sometimes? and also his other friends too, but i feel like it happens most often to the fox boy no wonder he's so insecure most of the time in some issues
I guess some Sonic fans will sacrifice actual likeable characters and good pacing just for meaningless Sonic references to be shoved down their throats
Holy cow! Thank you, Sonicsta! I knew that there was something off about Sonic in this OK KO crossover episode! I knew it! XD EEP! :) The thing here is I knew that Modern Sonic was far different compared to the Sonic from that episode yet there have been times where I would talk about how Sonic hadn't been portrayed right in the 2010's and people have said that Sonic has always been that way or that I wasn't used to his portrayal of him from back in the classic days since I became obsessed with him during his modern days. Heck I even hear this said about Sonic when it comes to Sonic Boom. It's because of that that I get so confused on whether or not Sonic is out of character or not. But yeah I love that OK KO crossover episode but everything that Sonicsta said in the video bugged me big time too like he would risk his life for KO before he got roboticized and he would be worried about KO's friends and love the praise that Tails gets and not make everything about himself. It especially hugely bugged me when KO is trying to do the rescuing himself to go over that hoop to save his friends yet Sonic does absolutely nothing and sits at that chaise and drinks that drink referencing Sonic OVA but then it's Tails who helps him out and not Sonic by telling him how to use a spin dash. While I also do love the scene where Sonic tells Tails that he is his best buddy and not KO a part of me can't help but feel like the episode didn't do well at building up to that no matter how entirely sweet I find that scene to be. I'm so glad that it's not just me so thank you, Sonicsta! I knew Sonic was awesome! Always have always will! EEP! :)
I remember when I first watched the episode and thought it was great but saw a lot of discourse on Sonic's potrayl. While I didn't understand it at first because of my love for OK KO and the Sonic references packed in but on a second viewing it became very clear. This Sonic embodies all the bad traits of the 2010's. Soley an egotistical attention hog who disregards any feelings his friends have.
It may not be the best portrayal, but I still think it's far from the worst when we have the Fleetway Sonic who pretty much always treats Tails like a pest, or the Colours/Lost World interpretations which can't even make the exaggerated personality traits work for the sake of a joke. OK K.O. Sonic may be arrogant, but he still has his moments of showing his heart's in the right place and telling Tails he could never be replaced in the end. I think K.O.'s fanboying just stroked Sonic's ego too much to the point where he got overly self important.
it's quite confusing cause ian jones-quartey and toby jones, core people working on the show, are genuine fans of sonic... i don't know how they let this writing get past them
No one ever said this was the sonic from the games to be fair. I like to consider this sonic, "K.O Sonic" And I will stick to this and his personality til the end of time
I dont like how the character portrayals are inconsistent especially with Sonic. Imo Sega should have kept portraying Sonic as a more mature character like Jason Griffith’s version.
I think for this crossover Sonic allowing Tails more of a chance to shine was the most selfless thing I've ever seen a Sonic portral do. and I actually think that was low ki amazing!
Honestly I was really bothered by the amount of references too. I know the creator of the show is a big sonic fan and this was him being able to show his love for the character. However the references feel they were there to distract from bad writing, something I just hate in general.
I actually liked most of the references. its so surreal it referenced the OVA and the adventures of sonic the hedgehog. never really seen the show but this was a fun episode
I really don't mind Sonic being jerky sometimes, I mean it's not the first portrayal that Sonic is a little bit of a jerk. This Sonic really reminds me of the OVA and the references to it, doesn't really help. I really don't think it's the worst portrayal but I see your frustration.
As a big time Sonic fan, I was very disappointed with the way how he is portrayed as a character, because what separated him from the lore in 2000s vs 2010s is that he's a drifter with an attitude and can be temperamental when injustice take place but part of the charm that makes him likable is he always come through to put others before himself, in this version however; he's Self-absorbed and arrogant beyond reasonable doubt and would constantly put others in harms way and benefit from it. I'm just glad the theatrical motion picture films help reiterate his development on the lime light, especially with his dynamic between Tails and Knuckles.
I wonder if the people who made this just saw the sonic ova And assumed that’s how his character was throughout the entire series (it would also explain all the sonic ova references)
Dude this reminds me of Sonic in the Fleetway comics😭he was so horrible to Tails back then; he would always call him “pixel-brain” and even though it was a joke, it never really sat right with me lol.
@@thestockimagequeen it kinda Does, considering fleetway is like one of the most interesting Sonic's, bc plp don't realize he loves his friends dearly but the way Sonic's rough and arrogant side comes in he really doesn't try to have time for live which I really appreciate.
@@pixilatedink.7920 That’s fair, and I respect your opinion and see where you’re coming from. You didn’t have to insult my name or how I write, though.
ngl OK KO's portrayal of Sonic seems like the writers just looked at a cutscene from one Sonic game and was like "oh, so we just have to make Sonic cocky. Ehh good enough" and just made him unbearable. He's a narcissist, he's self-centered, he's insensitive to how what he says and does hurts the people around him, but hey at least they put Sonic OVA cameos in the episode so all is well right? while I love Sonic OVA and love the references, it doesn't excuse what is quite literally character slander by quite honestly making Sonic a villain in an episode where he's supposed to be the hero
Turns Out The Whole Reason Why Sonic Was Acting This Way Is Because I Read Somewhat That Said That Due To OK K.O.'s Zanier and More Over-The-Top Humor This Is What Led To Sonic Being More Egotistical and Praising Himself A whole Lot
For your first point where you questioned why he let K.O. go first, keep in mind this is the main villain of the show who K.O. basically fights on a daily basis and i'm pretty sure this was later on in the series where he got better at fighting while sonic had never met the guy before so maybe he just assumed K.O. would be fine. Other than that yeah he was kind of a jerk but tbf it WAS a one off crossover episode in a mostly comedic show so it makes since they wouldn't have put too much effort into his writing. The show overall is very great and i highly recommend watching the whole thing if you haven't, the characters are all really charming aside from sonic and it's really funny at times, plus the action scenes are really cool for such a simple art style.
I have to agree with you on this one. As much as I enjoyed the episode and references, Sonic was a bit of a tad jerk in this crossover episode. Sonic would never treat Tails and his friends the way he did to Tails and KO.
honestly, even though I saw the thumbnail and I wasn't even familiar with the black sonic silhouette, I really thought you were gonna talk about Sonic from Sonic X
The way they draw the characters is enough to irritate me, I hate that style of cartoons. I like Sonic because he's cool and confident, I don't like a meme irritating prick version.
Sonic in ok ko was not a good iteration of the character he showed less in saving ko’s friends and the situation was then Tails. If anything Tails was more like himself then Sonic was. Tails was pretty good here. I hope in future iterations Sonic isn’t like this.
I am wondering if the writers even played a single Sonic game at all here? Sonic isnt an ego maniac with a self loving attitude. He has a good heart and will protect his friends even for the sake of his own life. Hell even in the 2010's SEGA still kept that part of his personality down.
Lowkey thought this was sonic lost world again. But yeah sonic wasn't fully sonic to me. Yeah "new little buddy" referring to k.o being one of sonics friends but his behavior was overwhelmingly enchanted than his normal amount of cockiness and pride he has. The references were very nice and the episode was fine but it's just the fact that sonic was the way he was made me wanna punch the rings outta him fr fr.
Well said dude, this also didn't help with Tails as in recent games, you see him as not prone to letting anyone else be sonic's number 2 at least for that specific circumstance (Aone great example of this is lost world where we see him getting feisty when sonic has to include Eggman to help out with the mission.)and the way sonic was being in this episode didn't make things a whole lot better.In a way, I see it as another example of how his character has been ruined by Sega other than him being more of coward who only relies more on sonic than himself
I didn't really have a problem with the episode but I remember sonic's characterisation feeling off but I didn't know where to place my finger on it. This video kinda cleared it up. OK.KO is still a good show it is a shame it was canned shortly after this episode aired
Yep, The OK KO Collaboration not only Sucks because of Character Writing, but also because of not all the Languages which Sonic Games get dubbed for not getting their Video Game VAs to voice
Dang, maybe it sounds like Sonic got the “Shadow the Hedgehog” treatment, to simply come off as arrogant and proud for no reason 🤔🤣 I bet Sonic even said something edgy didn’t he?
I always didn't care for his portrayal in Sonic X because of his aloof personality, but at least Sonic does show he cares about others, and willing to go out of his way to do what's right. But, then I watched this video, and realized The OK KO crossover episode has a very very flawed Sonic in it. 🤔 Sonic can be a jerk sometimes, but THIS much as the episode is conveying. 😅
You really are not supposed to take Sonic’s portrayal seriously here, because at the end of the day, this is a crossover episode, carried by the novelty factor and all the references to Sonic’s history.
Well here is the thing as this is a comedy show did Sonic writing take more so inspiration from the more comedic version of his Character rather than the more tender version one perhaps knows from games between SA1 to Unleashed. Like Sonic being a jerk and not paying to much attention until the very last moment are also very much present in the OVA and in AoStH. So yes while this is design wise based on Modern game Sonic is it writing wise more so the love child of OVA and AoStH Sonic.
I hope we get more depictions of Sonic like how the movies do him then the games have. Movie Sonic would never treat Tails or KO the way he did in OK KO
Glad to know I wasn't the only who though about this. It was kinda odd to see the most cocky yet gold of heart character acting like a egomaniac jerk (well, more than usual to the point of being annoying) Sonic can be jerk but he usually does it for fun not that he likes to ditch out his friends for a random kid he met next door. It's very weird lol Even so, I still loved the episode because of the references 😂💙
woww i didnt know how they portrayed him.. ive never watched the episode, only seen a few screenshots and though the animation looked nice. thats pretty sad
OK KO is a show that’s not meant to be taken seriously. It’s kind of like a parody of action cartoons. Thus, this episode is meant to be a parody of Sonic and Tails, while also honoring them. You have to understand there’s a big difference between spite and having fun.
This Sonic like a Boom Sonic but much more Jerk. Come to think of it,the crew maybe know Sonic but they just gave the character really bad especially when it's voice by Roger Craig Smith. I've seen his role on Video game which people we're hated how weird the dialogue that Sega gave Roger.
This is a pretty good analysis of the episode I haven’t thought of yet. Honestly, I feel that the portrayal of Sonic could’ve worked as a positive character arc if it was in a series of its own but in this context I can see how it doesn’t aline with how he is portrayed in 2000s era of Sonic media.
Sonic is always glorifying himself and how great he is and how great he can be? I have a feeling Sega got things too carried. They always ignored NiGHTS, Amigo, Billy Hatcher, and more Sega franchises.
I read some comments that fleetway Sonic is more worst and I agree Ok K.O is in 2nd place worst Sonic protrayal. There can't be always be one. I think Sonic X is a another one of the worst protrayal, Sonic sleep in each episode.... I think.
I wouldn't say Fleetway Sonic is the "worst". Yeah, he's a inaccurate potrayal but he's a very good one. Probably one of the best and most interesting versions of Sonic's
Hegot the DukeNukem Treatement, a character who is supouse to be taken as silly for his exagerated ego treated as a abnormally important person and getting his ego feed by the people arouhd him intead of playing around the silly ego.
The Sonic characters I knew and grew up with, were of the 2000's, and that I didn't like how things were for the 2010's. If anything, I have met other people that knew Sonic's character more then this. As in they knew how to write him how he's suppose to be.
I just loved the fact that they included him in the show! I didn’t mind the portrayal of Sonic since it really meshed with the comedic style of the show anyway 😅
In all honesty, even his portrayal in those crappy Yong Yong games were better. At least in those, you can feel Sonic's pain & suffering as he goes through levels upon levels of Hellish areas of awful programming & horrid level design alongside seizure-inducingly terrible color palettes.
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THANK YOU for talking about the OK KO crossover. Sonic was an horribly narcissistic jerk in this episode, and made it seem like he never cared about Tails at all. Sonic constantly gloating about how great he is, replacing his best friend for a random kid he just met… it’s by far the worst Sonic portrayal ever and is so disrespectful to his character. This is meta era Sonic at his worst.
even though y'know
the ok ko writers are sonic fans
@Kian IDK, OK KO seems to be a show where the personalities are pretty exaggerated for the sake of comedy rather than sonic being unironically a jerk
fleetway sonic is my least favorite interpretation of sonic by far
Rip I didn't hate him that much
@Kian Nigga it's just a crossover episode, he doesn't have to be in character when it's really just to throw nods at the series, that's like complaining about robot chicken because it does the same thing.
@@cozmactudioz9924 It’s because it’s a crossover episode that he should be in character. Crossover episodes are made to please fans of either party and expose people to the new character possibly for the first time
I totally agree, the people who characterised sonic in this episode must've only ever seen him talking to the villains as opposed to moments he's with his friends, that's only a small fraction of his character
@Kian Even Satam Sonic wasn't as narcissistic as OK KO Sonic, and while he was pretty immature, he was arguably one of the most emotionally open interpretations of the character and knew when to cut loose or get serious.
@@Zaylio It's almost like this is a random crossover episode that's really just made to have references, that isn't connected to the actual series that exaggerates things for comedy even if it isn't funny.
@@cozmactudioz9924 I understand that Ok Ko Sonic is exaggerated but that doesn’t excuse his bad characterization, even if it is a crossover episode. That’s literally the whole point of the video.
@@cozmactudioz9924 You can have random crossover episodes that's only really made to have references and isn't connected to the actual series with exaggerated aspects and STILL not mischaracterize the characters from the series you are drawing them from. Crossovers of this nature have happened for years, it isn't hard to do
That's modern sonic for ya
That's an extremely fair opinion on the Crossover. One could argue it's not meant to be taken entirely as fact and super seriously since it was a one off crossover special for an otherwise unrelated cartoon. I mean, Sonic here is caricatured and has some traits pushed to 11 mostly for comedic effect and cool action. However, I do completely understand the frustration that comes with Sonic not being portrayed as he's supposed to be, as he has been portrayed incorrectly more and more often as the Meta Era continues. To some degree, I feel the same way. I completely prefer the Heart that Sonic and his stories had during the 2000s and most recent media, including this, has essentially forgotten about that. Of course, I still loved the episode myself, but a little part of me was kinda sad they went with the Meta Era characterization. I wouldn't go as far as saying it's his Worst Portrayal, but it sure isn't the best.
Great video.
Having only seen it twice right when it came out, I couldn't think of why his portrayal could be so bad. But after this I 100% agree. Kinda reminds me of how he acts towards Tails in the Fleetway comics.
Ngl I like Fleetway Sonic. He’s a jerk but there’s something about him that I like. He still a hero, he’s still cares about his friends and is selfless but seems more like a hormonal moody I’ll tempered teenager than a narcissistic douche who only cares about fame and glory
Sonic is no where near as bad as he was in Fleetway
That is another level of meanness
This Sonic is literally just Modern Fleetway Sonic
but actively more shitty
Agreed
Nah I actually find Fleetway Sonic enjoyable plus he has a reason for the way he acts unlike this
@@fnaf2isthegoat75 same here. I enjoy Fleetway Sonic way more. He’s a jerk no doubt and kinda pushes the line at times but he’s still a heroic person. He just doesn’t have a good personality
No his more akin to sonic colors sonic and the bad jokes
Fleetway sonic literally attempted to murder his friends multiple times, burnt down a mansion with sonic protected so he could kill him personally and destroyed an entire bar in the special zone. I don't think he acts like a modern fleetway AT ALL💀
My favorite part of this episode is the part we’re sonic says
“He’s the wOreSt” also this line is referenced in the sonic movie 2
A big issue I have with this episode is Tails’ conflict.
The show seems to believe that Tails being Sonic’s sidekick is an actual job (even though it isn’t). Tails being extremely insecure and clingy about it is extra insulting, because Tails shouldn’t care about it in the first place.
Tails is Sonic’s friend, who shares heroic attributes. In purpose, he is a sidekick, but in-lore, he is as much of a sidekick to Sonic as Bucky is to MCU Captain America during the Infinity Saga; a tag-along with his own trials who helps out a friend where it’s necessary, and not because he SHOULD.
I think it would just be nice to see an independent Tails who helps Sonic because it’s the right thing to do, and not because of an arbitrary sidekick label.
you’ve been making some banger points today!! thanks for your insight!! and thanks for watching!
@@SONICSTA
thank you; keep up the good content
I still like the part where tails taught k.o. the spin dash. I heard that tails was the one who invented the spin dash or I believe that the sonic 2 manual states that tails came up with it. Either way the show kinda shifted tails characterization in lost world and made him start off as a jealous sidekick to a relatable/approachable mentor figure to k.o.
Sonic even compliments tails later on and he didn't end up being an egotistical jerk like in lost world. So I wouldn't say it's the worst portrayal of tails. Just solid as the show's canon.
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Exactly. Honestly, there’s WAY worse than this show’s treatment. This show doesn’t even scratch the surface because hell, at least it had some nice moments.
Stuff like Lost World and Forces especially comes to mind as worse candidates.
I seriously question how writers can get Sonic’s character so very wrong! When it comes to Tails, Sonic is often the guy that praises him the most, Roger knows that well to the point where Roger’s Sonic constantly praises Tails in the Twitter Takeovers, not to mention the fact that this is supposed to be an adaptation of the same character who “doesn’t need a reason to help a friend” (sure that is an Unleashed quote but it IS still canon). If this had been Boom Sonic, then sure whatever… he’s an over exaggerated version of the more egotistical side of Sonic’s character… but they used actual Sonic in this show. Heck, even Sonic X was more accurate than that, and even gave him some attitude without being an ass. All in all, I hate how they handled Sonic in this episode.
But boom Sonic is still a better take then this
@@wwalton Agreed.
Yeah but that take is boring as hell
@Kian Yet, I’d argue that Boom Sonic still has more moments of caring about his friends than OK KO Sonic does with Tails… that could be because Boom Sonic had a whole series, admittedly, but Boom Sonic isn’t usually as toxic towards Tails… although neither is a very accurate depiction of the mainline Sonic.
@Kian sonic is egotistical what? That's literally a part of his cockiness do you even know the character? He's a wiseass who like complimenting himself as well. He is about freedom but he's just more than just a hero
At least 2010 game sonic cared for others.
Like in Lost World, Tails gets captured and Sonic starts feeling really bad that he just bopped his little dude into a trap.
It's a comedy show where they intentionally over exaggerates issues for the sake of a corney lesson I really dont see them stepping up Sonic's jerkiness in this episode as a huge issue definitely given that everytime he is a jerk it's played as a joke and not as some kind of real issue where he doesn't want to help anyone. When he yawns when tails is praising tails it him joking about being jealous to make tails feel a but better knowing that he managed to make him jealous
Basically all I'm saying is how are u just gonna skip the Fleetway Comics as Sonic's worst interpretation he is literally just a cruel mean bully during the entire comic run like down right unbearable while in OK KO he is still the likable goofy cool dude who likes to crack jokes and boast about himself but never as a overbearing jerk but just because it's who he is
Somebody that understand fleetway is definitely worst he barley cares about anyone if where being serious I feel like fleetway sonic would actually let tails die and would barley care
What this guy said.
Fleetway Sonic isn’t the worse portrayal, you have to actually read and understand it. He is an asshole but he isn’t gonna let someone get kidnapped like at the beginning of the episode. Fleetway is a one of “nice characters with a very horrible way to express himself” kinda guy in my opinion.
@Kian i think they meant as a life lesson. Ok Ko is mainly children.
Fleetway Sonic is the worst protrayal of Sonic, Ok K.O Sonic is a another worst protrayal of Sonic. So those 2 Sonics are worst.
Honestly I never actually knew about this until this video.
I think he was a jerk in this episode. He isn't like this in the games, he might be arrogant but as you said it depends on how much it is. Also he didn't even care about tails
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Imma be honest, i actually think sonic was portrayed well in forces. Hes confident in mocking the villains, but also building his friends hope and confidence. Hes supportive, and despite all the crazy things that happened to him over the game, he never shows an ounce of fear or doubt, constantly shining a light, a light of hope💪🏾
No he was not portrayed well at all. Even when he makes fun of eggman for not having friends is very out of character. There is a reason why the Japanese script made changes to the dialogue in their version, because the story and characters don't make any sense in the English dub.
@@SuzukiCabs
"He was not portrayed well at all"
Alright then, fill me in, what is the criteria for a well portrayed sonic? What are the traits he must have and actions he must do?
Please include 5 points on both traits and actions.
"Its very out of character"
What is "in" character for sonic?
@@SuzukiCabshow is it out of character for him to make fun of Eggman? He was doing it from the start. Heck, in Adventure 1 he called him a loser. And of course he doesn't have any friends he was almost going to destroy the planet with the sun. I can't see people hanging out with a person like that
Sonic in this episode is the wooorst
What also really bugged me about this episode was how they brushed off Knuckles giving the Master Emerald to the villain as a “Yep, that’s Knuckles” moment when that is something this character has literally never done in the canon of the games. He never even handed over any Chaos Emeralds in any of the games he was tricked in despite him getting his hands on them quite easily. Not to mention Angel Island literally falls out of the sky and starts sinking into to the ocean when the Master Emerald is removed, there is no way he would just risk that for a museum exhibit. I’d argue this is almost worse than Sonic’s portrayal considering Knuckles didn’t even have to show up to get his character assassinated.
Sonic acts more like Dorkly Sonic than Canon Sonic here.
Even at his worst in the Meta Era, Sonic was teaching the Avatar how to be brave, pay attention and attack when fighting Metal Sonic in Sonic Forces unlike OK KO Sonic.
Also we have to remember this is a crossover that always mess the characters personality up for entertainment
This makes me think "maybe shadow was right you are a fake"
Jason Griffith era Sonic is probably the peak of Sonic's personality. He was much more than just an arrogant jerk. He actually loved and cared for his friends, and most of the time put others first.
@Kian Even as early as Sonic's conceptual days, he was made to have an attitude and cockiness. Which one could interpret as arrogance. I do agree though that he wasn't meant to be a jerk, yet many times Roger's Sonic has been portrayed as such. That's even my opinion coming from someone who likes Roger. Anyhow my statement about Jason was made to contrast other portrayals of Sonic.
@Kian True, once again it's certainly how someone might interpret it. Sonic when around his friends, is very kind and caring, and that's the problem with the more recent version of Sonic. They make him out like he is solely a sarcastic and arrogant individual who is only interested in inflating his ego. The fact that the newer Sonic has been known to ignore, and even downright doubt his friends at times is pretty sad. It's not too late to correct Sonic's current personality, but they need to stop investing all their chips into making Sonic overly confident, and make him go back to caring about his companions.
i disagree about the point about why sonic is arrogant during the sonic-eggman dynamic
Mini analysis here but;
Sonic does not always know he can beat Eggman. When the going gets tough, Sonic also knows when to throw on a game face (i.e Egg Beetle and Egg Dragoon).
I feel like the real reason he’s cocky towards Eggman is because that arrogance and assuredness is how he deflects pressure, and how he alleviates the people around him. He’s a free-spirited guy who defines self-assuredness. Even when he isn’t sure if he’ll win, he tries his best and puts on a smile, because that’s what he can do.
Even against Merlina, he smiled, with his legs shaking, because that determination is all he could do, and all he believed he should do.
In tandem with the video essay, I believe that Sonic’s arrogance should be used in a way that alleviates others, and helps him directly challenge even the most terrifying odds.
I definitely agree with you, but I wanted to throw my two cents about the Sonic-Eggman dynamic, because I feel like Sonic belittling Eggman like he does in Colours is not the right way to go about it.
At first I was going to disagree with you, but now I see what you mean. Sonic is indeed arrogant towards Eggman, cause well it's Eggman. And yeah, he may act a bit cocky around his friends but he would always keep their safety at heart and care for them. But at this show, he was indeed out of character.
Fleetway is still worst in my opinion
@@Chaoywowey Oh yeah, if I remember correctly, That Sonic was unbearable.
The best Sonic portrayal in the meta-era might be LEGO, at least the writing is better overall and actually respects the franchise
sonic is a laidback cocky guy but he loves his friends
This feels like the case of references for reference sake. Portraying Sonic nowadays now just feels like stuffing your face with references in hopes to please fans. References like these can feel very shallow, surface-level, and basically just a way to tickle the fanbase's nostalgia bones. I'm honestly afraid sonic will become this "Remember green hill? chemical plant? spindashing? the OVA?" no matter how obscure a reference may be, doesn't distract from the fact that the actual media itself needs to be able to hold its own.
Finally!! Thank you!! Someone finally said it!
Honestly it’s his personality I’m the universe of ok.ko it fits the show perfectly and he bounces off of ko really well. I can see why it’d bother some but to me it doesn’t. Cuz it’s not main line sonic, it’s ok.ko sonic
Its a crossover.
@@zestytriss5282 really? Never would have guessed ;0
Fleetway Sonic be like
I LOVE OKKO let’s be heros, always was an underrated show in my eyes. The sonic episode was a great spotlight that shined, showing people the show existed, cuz CN wouldn’t lmao
Now, for the idea of sonic not being the most fleshed out and interesting character, I mean, yeah. The show is a comedy show, so they aim to make stuff funny, and they only have a couple minutes to do so, not to mention this was a one time thing, so I’m not even upset about Sonics characterization in this episode. By the end he is really cool, and the big yawn was funny af bro.
The only part that got me thinking was “huh, why is sonic just chillin sleeping? He’s not gonna try to help him out?” But you gotta remember, KO offered to go first to save his friends, and sonic tried to explain how to do a spin dash, but he isn’t too great at explaining, giving tails room to teach KO.
I personally think you’re overthinking this one, no disrespect, but I understand why you might say this is the worst sonic. I simply don’t think it’s that big of a deal to even justify counting it as characterization that much, but that’s just me.
yes I will agree I mean the fleetway comics is the far worse interpretation of sonic even if this wasn't the best I is extremly clear that this was them making fun of sonic in the 2010's I mean sonic boom did it.
I couldn’t agree more. This episode is what exposed me to OK KO, and now I’m a fan of it!
I totally agree, back when this episode was first released, I was acting just like K.O. I was super excited about the fact that Sonic was gonna crossover into a CN show. I never even cared about the show itself (still kinda don't tbh), but I only wanted to see this episode for Sonic and Tails, along with all the references. But seeing this episode now, I can see how Sonic is written poorly, having a bigger ego than normal and being douchey to everybody, instead of being that fun, lovable hero.
I remember getting HBO max to watch this episode but realized it was pretty mid. They didn’t feel like the characters from the games at all. Tails was hella jealous for whatever reason, Sonic was very arrogant and lazy.
Unrelated but I think Roger's performance in this episode was very underrated.
Roger himself is underrated
@@requiem550 I agree but I was trying to say this was one of his best performances imo
Honestly, I really don’t mind Sonic in this episode. The whole point of OK KO is that it’s a fun, lighthearted, comedic cartoon, and the characters are meant to be very exaggerated. This is supposed to be a crossover episode, and that’s what’s important.
I still feel like fleetway sonic was worse for the same reason, but throughout an entire series rather than a cameo
Honestly, the Fleetway comics fucked up in many ways and their portrayal of Sonic was definitely one of them.
true though, like, why does he have to treat tails (this one 8 year old kid who LOOKS UP to him) like a complete A-hole sometimes? and also his other friends too, but i feel like it happens most often to the fox boy
no wonder he's so insecure most of the time in some issues
He's the best for me tbh
@@1992holycrap true, but atleast we got fleetway super sonic out of it which makes him a cool non-canon type of villain
@@1992holycrap and the others?
FR Tails got replaced for his best friend title and I hated it.Ut was so weird.They LITERALLY DRAINED HIS PERSONALITY.He has no personality there.Ty
Banger video bro! I actually never seen this episode but ima go watch it rn
I guess some Sonic fans will sacrifice actual likeable characters and good pacing just for meaningless Sonic references to be shoved down their throats
Pretty much 2010s Sonic in a nutshell lol!
Your editing has improved so much, it makes your videos 100 times more enjoyable
It’s weird that I never thought of that when I first saw it… You really made some great points Sonicsta.
Holy cow! Thank you, Sonicsta! I knew that there was something off about Sonic in this OK KO crossover episode! I knew it! XD EEP! :)
The thing here is I knew that Modern Sonic was far different compared to the Sonic from that episode yet there have been times where I would talk about how Sonic hadn't been portrayed right in the 2010's and people have said that Sonic has always been that way or that I wasn't used to his portrayal of him from back in the classic days since I became obsessed with him during his modern days. Heck I even hear this said about Sonic when it comes to Sonic Boom.
It's because of that that I get so confused on whether or not Sonic is out of character or not.
But yeah I love that OK KO crossover episode but everything that Sonicsta said in the video bugged me big time too like he would risk his life for KO before he got roboticized and he would be worried about KO's friends and love the praise that Tails gets and not make everything about himself.
It especially hugely bugged me when KO is trying to do the rescuing himself to go over that hoop to save his friends yet Sonic does absolutely nothing and sits at that chaise and drinks that drink referencing Sonic OVA but then it's Tails who helps him out and not Sonic by telling him how to use a spin dash.
While I also do love the scene where Sonic tells Tails that he is his best buddy and not KO a part of me can't help but feel like the episode didn't do well at building up to that no matter how entirely sweet I find that scene to be.
I'm so glad that it's not just me so thank you, Sonicsta! I knew Sonic was awesome! Always have always will! EEP! :)
I remember when I first watched the episode and thought it was great but saw a lot of discourse on Sonic's potrayl. While I didn't understand it at first because of my love for OK KO and the Sonic references packed in but on a second viewing it became very clear. This Sonic embodies all the bad traits of the 2010's. Soley an egotistical attention hog who disregards any feelings his friends have.
I always thought the creators of this show were parodying his personality here.
Granted it's flawed, but I think that might be the point.
It may not be the best portrayal, but I still think it's far from the worst when we have the Fleetway Sonic who pretty much always treats Tails like a pest, or the Colours/Lost World interpretations which can't even make the exaggerated personality traits work for the sake of a joke. OK K.O. Sonic may be arrogant, but he still has his moments of showing his heart's in the right place and telling Tails he could never be replaced in the end. I think K.O.'s fanboying just stroked Sonic's ego too much to the point where he got overly self important.
Nah it was a nice change of pace. Reminded me of SATAM's take on him.
it's quite confusing cause ian jones-quartey and toby jones, core people working on the show, are genuine fans of sonic... i don't know how they let this writing get past them
ok ko's writing does typically lean heavily into exaggeration, but not like THIS
No one ever said this was the sonic from the games to be fair.
I like to consider this sonic, "K.O Sonic"
And I will stick to this and his personality til the end of time
Looking at this again. Sonic in the art style makes him kinda look like an Amphibia character
I dont like how the character portrayals are inconsistent especially with Sonic. Imo Sega should have kept portraying Sonic as a more mature character like Jason Griffith’s version.
I think for this crossover Sonic allowing Tails
more of a chance to shine was the most selfless thing I've ever seen a Sonic portral do. and I actually think that was low ki amazing!
Honestly I was really bothered by the amount of references too. I know the creator of the show is a big sonic fan and this was him being able to show his love for the character. However the references feel they were there to distract from bad writing, something I just hate in general.
@Kian facts tho
Some of them felt *forced*
Get it?
@@Mewdo45 Get off the stage, man.
I actually liked most of the references. its so surreal it referenced the OVA and the adventures of sonic the hedgehog. never really seen the show but this was a fun episode
I really don't mind Sonic being jerky sometimes, I mean it's not the first portrayal that Sonic is a little bit of a jerk. This Sonic really reminds me of the OVA and the references to it, doesn't really help. I really don't think it's the worst portrayal but I see your frustration.
As a big time Sonic fan, I was very disappointed with the way how he is portrayed as a character, because what separated him from the lore in 2000s vs 2010s is that he's a drifter with an attitude and can be temperamental when injustice take place but part of the charm that makes him likable is he always come through to put others before himself, in this version however; he's Self-absorbed and arrogant beyond reasonable doubt and would constantly put others in harms way and benefit from it.
I'm just glad the theatrical motion picture films help reiterate his development on the lime light, especially with his dynamic between Tails and Knuckles.
I wonder if the people who made this just saw the sonic ova And assumed that’s how his character was throughout the entire series (it would also explain all the sonic ova references)
Yeah except that the creator is a sonic fan, but naw they just watched ova
Hmmm... Maybe this is why the MugiMikey parody didn't feel that off from the official version.
Dude this reminds me of Sonic in the Fleetway comics😭he was so horrible to Tails back then; he would always call him “pixel-brain” and even though it was a joke, it never really sat right with me lol.
It was better than boring ass game sonic lmao
And by your name and the way you write your comments I could tell you think the Sonic series is all cook cuttered so
@@pixilatedink.7920 nah I just don’t think Sonic has to be a complete jerk to be well-written/interesting.
@@thestockimagequeen it kinda Does, considering fleetway is like one of the most interesting Sonic's, bc plp don't realize he loves his friends dearly but the way Sonic's rough and arrogant side comes in he really doesn't try to have time for live which I really appreciate.
@@pixilatedink.7920 That’s fair, and I respect your opinion and see where you’re coming from. You didn’t have to insult my name or how I write, though.
ngl OK KO's portrayal of Sonic seems like the writers just looked at a cutscene from one Sonic game and was like "oh, so we just have to make Sonic cocky. Ehh good enough" and just made him unbearable. He's a narcissist, he's self-centered, he's insensitive to how what he says and does hurts the people around him, but hey at least they put Sonic OVA cameos in the episode so all is well right?
while I love Sonic OVA and love the references, it doesn't excuse what is quite literally character slander by quite honestly making Sonic a villain in an episode where he's supposed to be the hero
Turns Out The Whole Reason Why Sonic Was Acting This Way Is Because I Read Somewhat That Said That Due To OK K.O.'s Zanier and More Over-The-Top Humor This Is What Led To Sonic Being More Egotistical and Praising Himself A whole Lot
I feel like in sonic prime there could be crossovers one of them being with ok ko once again
For your first point where you questioned why he let K.O. go first, keep in mind this is the main villain of the show who K.O. basically fights on a daily basis and i'm pretty sure this was later on in the series where he got better at fighting while sonic had never met the guy before so maybe he just assumed K.O. would be fine. Other than that yeah he was kind of a jerk but tbf it WAS a one off crossover episode in a mostly comedic show so it makes since they wouldn't have put too much effort into his writing. The show overall is very great and i highly recommend watching the whole thing if you haven't, the characters are all really charming aside from sonic and it's really funny at times, plus the action scenes are really cool for such a simple art style.
I have to agree with you on this one. As much as I enjoyed the episode and references, Sonic was a bit of a tad jerk in this crossover episode. Sonic would never treat Tails and his friends the way he did to Tails and KO.
Great video, Sonicsta 💪🙏
honestly, even though I saw the thumbnail and I wasn't even familiar with the black sonic silhouette, I really thought you were gonna talk about Sonic from Sonic X
The way they draw the characters is enough to irritate me, I hate that style of cartoons. I like Sonic because he's cool and confident, I don't like a meme irritating prick version.
Sonic in ok ko was not a good iteration of the character he showed less in saving ko’s friends and the situation was then Tails. If anything Tails was more like himself then Sonic was. Tails was pretty good here. I hope in future iterations Sonic isn’t like this.
You made a video on a crossover episode in a comedy based show saying that's his "worst" potrayal when stuff like the Fleetway comics.
Imo. I didn't really pay attention. I just watched for the crossover.
I am wondering if the writers even played a single Sonic game at all here? Sonic isnt an ego maniac with a self loving attitude. He has a good heart and will protect his friends even for the sake of his own life. Hell even in the 2010's SEGA still kept that part of his personality down.
Lowkey thought this was sonic lost world again. But yeah sonic wasn't fully sonic to me. Yeah "new little buddy" referring to k.o being one of sonics friends but his behavior was overwhelmingly enchanted than his normal amount of cockiness and pride he has. The references were very nice and the episode was fine but it's just the fact that sonic was the way he was made me wanna punch the rings outta him fr fr.
I was nine when this game out and I actually got really excited when this first came out but I never realised sonic was kind of a jerk
This is Fleetway Sonic
post 2009 is the worst portrayal of all video game characters lol
There are other worst potrayals of Sonic : Sonic from the RUclips Channel "Sonic David", Sonic from BLU GLITCH 404, and finally, Sonic from MugiMikey.
Ironically I find Rogers performance here as Sonic as one of his best.
Well said dude, this also didn't help with Tails as in recent games, you see him as not prone to letting anyone else be sonic's number 2 at least for that specific circumstance (Aone great example of this is lost world where we see him getting feisty when sonic has to include Eggman to help out with the mission.)and the way sonic was being in this episode didn't make things a whole lot better.In a way, I see it as another example of how his character has been ruined by Sega other than him being more of coward who only relies more on sonic than himself
I honestly enjoyed this episode, it was mainly just fan-service
I didn't really have a problem with the episode but I remember sonic's characterisation feeling off but I didn't know where to place my finger on it. This video kinda cleared it up. OK.KO is still a good show it is a shame it was canned shortly after this episode aired
Yep, The OK KO Collaboration not only Sucks because of Character Writing, but also because of not all the Languages which Sonic Games get dubbed for not getting their Video Game VAs to voice
Dang, maybe it sounds like Sonic got the “Shadow the Hedgehog” treatment, to simply come off as arrogant and proud for no reason 🤔🤣 I bet Sonic even said something edgy didn’t he?
I always didn't care for his portrayal in Sonic X because of his aloof personality, but at least Sonic does show he cares about others, and willing to go out of his way to do what's right.
But, then I watched this video, and realized The OK KO crossover episode has a very very flawed Sonic in it.
🤔
Sonic can be a jerk sometimes, but THIS much as the episode is conveying. 😅
I will now refer to Roger's Sonic as "Asshole Sonic"
You really are not supposed to take Sonic’s portrayal seriously here, because at the end of the day, this is a crossover episode, carried by the novelty factor and all the references to Sonic’s history.
Well here is the thing as this is a comedy show did Sonic writing take more so inspiration from the more comedic version of his Character rather than the more tender version one perhaps knows from games between SA1 to Unleashed.
Like Sonic being a jerk and not paying to much attention until the very last moment are also very much present in the OVA and in AoStH.
So yes while this is design wise based on Modern game Sonic is it writing wise more so the love child of OVA and AoStH Sonic.
I hope we get more depictions of Sonic like how the movies do him then the games have. Movie Sonic would never treat Tails or KO the way he did in OK KO
Glad to know I wasn't the only who though about this. It was kinda odd to see the most cocky yet gold of heart character acting like a egomaniac jerk (well, more than usual to the point of being annoying) Sonic can be jerk but he usually does it for fun not that he likes to ditch out his friends for a random kid he met next door. It's very weird lol
Even so, I still loved the episode because of the references 😂💙
woww i didnt know how they portrayed him.. ive never watched the episode, only seen a few screenshots and though the animation looked nice. thats pretty sad
colors?
I disagree with, all of this. This isn't the worst portrayal of Sonic
OK KO is a show that’s not meant to be taken seriously. It’s kind of like a parody of action cartoons. Thus, this episode is meant to be a parody of Sonic and Tails, while also honoring them. You have to understand there’s a big difference between spite and having fun.
Honestly it would be funny if Sobic said the episode wasn't Canon, but I don't think that solves everything they got wrong.
This Sonic like a Boom Sonic but much more Jerk. Come to think of it,the crew maybe know Sonic but they just gave the character really bad especially when it's voice by Roger Craig Smith. I've seen his role on Video game which people we're hated how weird the dialogue that Sega gave Roger.
This is a pretty good analysis of the episode I haven’t thought of yet. Honestly, I feel that the portrayal of Sonic could’ve worked as a positive character arc if it was in a series of its own but in this context I can see how it doesn’t aline with how he is portrayed in 2000s era of Sonic media.
It kinda is like a flanderized version of sonic.
Sonic is always glorifying himself and how great he is and how great he can be? I have a feeling Sega got things too carried.
They always ignored NiGHTS, Amigo, Billy Hatcher, and more Sega franchises.
I read some comments that fleetway Sonic is more worst and I agree Ok K.O is in 2nd place worst Sonic protrayal. There can't be always be one. I think Sonic X is a another one of the worst protrayal, Sonic sleep in each episode.... I think.
I wouldn't say Fleetway Sonic is the "worst". Yeah, he's a inaccurate potrayal but he's a very good one. Probably one of the best and most interesting versions of Sonic's
Hegot the DukeNukem Treatement, a character who is supouse to be taken as silly for his exagerated ego treated as a abnormally important person and getting his ego feed by the people arouhd him intead of playing around the silly ego.
The Sonic characters I knew and grew up with, were of the 2000's, and that I didn't like how things were for the 2010's. If anything, I have met other people that knew Sonic's character more then this. As in they knew how to write him how he's suppose to be.
I just loved the fact that they included him in the show! I didn’t mind the portrayal of Sonic since it really meshed with the comedic style of the show anyway 😅
In all honesty, even his portrayal in those crappy Yong Yong games were better. At least in those, you can feel Sonic's pain & suffering as he goes through levels upon levels of Hellish areas of awful programming & horrid level design alongside seizure-inducingly terrible color palettes.
Sonic only got on my nerves at the end of the episode the rest was just this sonic is just a jerk
-Kinda reminds me of how much of a jerk Sonic could be in the Fleetway Comics-
Oh brother, talk about taking the piss out of a great episode.
This episode helped me realize I haven't liked Sonic as a character in years. Like, since Lost World - maybe even Sonic Colors
they gave tails his lost world personality and sonics his sonic x
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