Big's brain is overheating from reaching levels the human brain wasn't designed to properly accommodate for. Big is pushing the limits and he needs to chill the fuck down if he wants to continue his fishing days.
I realized something while watching this review. I, like you, thought Chris' attachment to Sonic was unnaturally strong given how little time he and Sonic spent together, and I thought he should've felt more attached to Tails, Amy, and Cream since he spent more time with them. But then I realized that's exactly why he felt more attached to Sonic. Chris views his mother and father as his parents, even though his grandpa and maid (and also kinda his butler) are the ones parenting him. There's a deleted/trimmed flashback scene from the Japanese version where Chris was waiting for his mother and father to come home for Christmas, and when the door opens, it's not them, but Ella with two presents they sent because they weren't coming after all. I think all that was left of that scene in the dub is him looking sadly at the trainset they sent him, which makes him look spoiled and ungrateful. His natural, biological longing for attention from his mother and father, aggravated by their broken promises, shaped his attachment style so that he craves the attention of whoever pays him the least mind. Just like he wishes his mother and father could be around while feeling like his grandpa and maid aren't his official parents, he wants Sonic to stay and values him as a best friend more than Tails and the girls. Him kidnapping Sonic was him trying to take control in his life. He's never been able to get his parents to stay, so he wants to get someone to stay.
The hatred for Chris is often due to people misunderstanding the character because of the dub. You put it better than I could. I think people give Chris too much flack.
Good comment, but he didn't "kidnap" Sonic. Sonic was free to leave whenever he wanted. Grabbing someone's hand and running with them isn't kidnapping.
12:38 "And whenever Rouge comes on screen, a saxophone has a seizure...like...eVerY sIngLe TimE." As a musician and saxophonist, I find this line extremely hilarious. The saxophone riff does get annoying. But I get why they do it. Rouge is a sexy character.
A bit of trivia: Season 3 was commissioned by 4kids and a French company due to the success of the show in those territories. The third season never even aired on Japanese television until very recently, it went straight to video there.
Season 3 was not commissioned by 4kids. That is a fan myth started by BlazeHedgehog and has no Sonic Team/Sega credibility behind it (Just like his incorrect assertion that Sonic 06 was ever a reboot).
@@jonahstein3034 Do you know how many times I hear the same shit being said about anime? It gets pretty damn aggravating and borderline disrespectful when people shit on English VA’s as if they aren’t trying their best as well.
@@-Gwa Yeah, 4kids' opinion on death never made any sense to me, with emphasis on Yu-Gi-Oh. Instead of straight-up killing someone, the loser gets sent to an inescapable realm of endless torment. "But at least they're not dead!"
I hate how the dub handled Chris’s episode, making it all like “oh but you’re my best friend, Sonic!” It’s different in Japanese: Chris asks Sonic why he’s been by his side all this time, and why Sonic went along with him instead of going back to his world, and Sonic replies “because you saved my life” Chris gets upset and asks if Sonic has only been with him because he feels like he owes Chris, and questions if they are friends, and Sonic says “friendship is free will” like you can’t force friendship, dude. Chris realises how he’s been holding Sonic back, and notes how in the past few days Sonic hasn’t even been able to run free because of him, and realises that he is a “bad friend” But in the dub he only lets Sonic go because Sonic is like “yOu’eR mY fRieNd, aNd we’Ll sEe eAch otHEr aGAiN”
@@EWOODJ Oh yeah, OP didn't even cover how manipulative Eng Chris was in the episode. He straight up tells Sonic he's (Sonic) gonna forget about him (Chris), cause he's always forgetful. Or on multiple occasions tells Sonic he'll go back to being lonely once he leaves. Chris only relents once Sonic went "okay I'll stay if that's what you want," and THEN Sonic says that "we'll see each other again" line. There's absolutely no coverage on *why* Sonic's friends with him or even went with him. He just rolls with it.
Not gonna lie: Sonic X is what brought me into the Sonic fandom! I enjoyed this show a lot and fell in love with the characters and wanted to know more about them. And before I knew, I was actually a fan of this franchise! :D
Me too! This show was my entire childhood. I don't think it will ever be tarnished for me, even with all it's flaws. Except the part where sonic and shadow are mistaken for eachother. Hated that, how stupid must everyone be??
Ngl, even in the english dub, this show had some SERIOUS emotional moments. The top 3 I remember are when Shadow remember Maria and you see tears in his eyes, when Sonic leave Chris and you see his tears splash against Chris's face, and when Cosmo sacrificed herself. I don't remember if I cried in these episodes, I do remember getting pretty dang close.
I cried during ep 25 despite knowing that cosmo was going to die before even watching season 2's finale. yes, season 2. If I didn't have a soft spot for animals tho I would've been fine. screw tails, if it weren't for him (my second most favorite character in the series) I wouldn't of cried.
Molly's death in season 3 was even sadder. Rouge was screaming on top of her lungs. Eggman had a disappointing face and shadow was just silent. He had no reactions he already lost his old friend maria and had to deal with a similar situation, he just took off his inhibitors and destroyed the flying fleets without mentioning a word. Even at the end of season 3 he was standing towards her grave with a flower on his hand.
people think , humans mystaking Sonic for shadow is dumb, I can totally see why but imo it isn' this far stretched, the only thing humans know about Sonic is that he's fast and can change colour(Super Sonic) so giving the fact that during Shadow stealing the emeralds the only thing humans knew was that it was stole by a hedgehog going at high speed at night, it is not dumb of them at all to assume it's sonic and he maybe changed colour, For amy it's way more difficult to defend because she "knows" Sonic but even for her it's debatable
@@dragonmaster3030 the idiot honestly thinks that the main thing everyone knew about sonic was that he was fast and changed color because he went super?? That kind of statement is only something that fans would think of; no character within the show would take that into consideration!
@@voiceacticon667 what you said makes no sense. No character would take WHAT into consideration, the fact that they know Sonic is fast and can change color, And that eye witnesses said that they saw a fast hedgehog, thus assuming this black hedgehog similar in shape to Sonic is sonic actualy isn't that far of a stretch? please come up with actual arguments or logic before opening your stinky ass mouth, moreso if it's for calling people idiots
The peak of Sonic X for me is in the Adventure game arcs. They do a better job at explaining Maria, and the Shadow line “Don’t talk to me about fair! NOT AFTER WHAT HAPPENED HERE!” gets me every time.
Tails: ThomasCapella asks "To everyone except Shadow because he already answered: What's your favorite anime?" Eggman: Mine's a bit dark. You might not like it. Involes ghouls and the like. Sonic: Heh, mine's easy. *_Sonic X!_* Not that I'm bias or anything. How bout you, Tails? Tails: I like the one where the kid becomes a hero, One for All! Shadow: Mine's still the one with the girl and the Scissor Blade. It's the greatest anime of all time and none of you will ever change my mind. -Sonic Twitter Takeover 4, 2019
Eggman threatened to blow up the earth he wasn’t going to actually do it because he wouldn’t have an empire to rule if he did. So when he tells the Metarex that hurting innocent people is not expectable is actually in character.
Didn’t Eggman murder (or at least injure) a bunch of cops who surrendered in like episode 5? And he injured Amy a number of times. So yeah. That line doesn’t fit.
@Nigel Stoney Eggman deserved to be hit by a Piko-Piko Hammer more than Sonic. He was much worse than him (save for Sonic Adventure 2, especially the ending that got people to think he is, at heart, a good guy after all), especially in the infamous Meta Era where everyone was out of character and the Archie Comics where he sold Mobians as slaves yet everyone hates Sonic more for his woman troubles.
Cosmo is really underrated. Unlike other original characters in Sonic X, Cosmo was actually useful, as she translated the Metarex language and supported the group, in fact, without her, Sonic and his friends wouldn't be able to stop the Metarex. She is also adorable with an shy and clumsy personality who has air sickness and doubts herself. Her friendship with Tails is the highlight of her character, making the ending heartbreaking. Tails also was kind of an badass when Shadow chased Cosmo to kill her. I do like Sonic X a lot, but the flaws keep it from getting any better for me.
Oh right, she also with held that same information, went out to the meteor and almost got herself and Chris killed because of an obvious trap, and on several occasions, has almost gotten everyone killed. Did you watch the season or no? Her one redeeming quality is that she gets offed, because that was her purpose. You could cut out all the shit with her in it, and nothing changes.
@@mariomaster4568 I did. I'm aware she's not perfect and can be seen as useless. Well, even with those flaws, I still like Cosmo as a character. Don't forget that without her, nobody would know what the Metarex language says and helped others out. You obviously dislike her to an extend. We have our different opinions and we leave it at that.
@@charleyrodijk1675 well…did it help? I don’t think it did in the end. Tails was also able to decode the language in that same episode, even without her help. Plus, it was used once and never really again.
Flaws: Sonic (especially) and Knuckles are treated like male-chauvinistic pigs because female characters like Amy Rose and Rouge the Bat are treated like the good guys every time they hit S&K with Piko-Piko Hammers and Screw Kicks Pros: I shall wait and see after what felt like a long time since I last saw Sonic X. But I’n sure it has its moments, especially in season 3!
@@charleyrodijk1675 Who wants to see a Sonic Boom version of Cosmo? While meant to be a serious/tragic character, it would likely work seeing an older, sillier interpretation of our favourite Seedrian!
I just hate how tails was treated in this and the games,like he’s a helpless little kid. I was happy when tails found someone to attach to and love(cosmo being that someone of course). To this day it irritates me how Sega treats tails as a character and keeps him in the role of the helpless little kid.
Probably best it stays as a relic of the past, with the attitude SEGA has with sonic we’ll end up with another overly self aware, self-deprecating show like Sonic Boom. I can already see them making Chris even more annoying and being like “LUL ISN’T THIS GUY ANNOYING WE’RE SO TRENDY AMIRITE?”
Exactly it's not a bad anime but there are some decisions that hold it back. I like Chris Thorndyke but I think his charachter development was mishandled for instance and I think that's why so many people don't like him. Because his arc is started at the end of season 1, then dropped until the last three episodes of season 2 and it shows cause it's definetly rushed. Good and I get what they were going for but it really should've been spaced out more.
It’s an old show what do u expect? I hope there is a new season so they can fix the old personalities and animation and other stuff so everyone can see what a great show it is, in my opinion I enjoyed it ginormously that I (truly actually) fell in love with sonic
The reason Shadow's character arc didn't feel finished was because 4kids (who ordered the 3rd Season get made back when they had the ability to do that) intended for their to be a 4th Season which the company teased until they went bankrupt. 4kids used to be able to get things made which led to Yugioh Capsule Monsters & the Pyramid of Light Movie in addition to everything relating to Viva Pinata. There are actually some fans of Sonic X who believe that 4kids actually had full storyboards for Season 4 Episodes locked inside some vault. I remember the days when people tried to pass off drawings of Metal Sonic in the X Style as being real leaked screenshots. 4kids going bankrupt in 2011 was officially the end of Sonic X.
One thing I really don’t like is how undermined and sidelined some characters were. For example, Tails is EXTREMELY nerfed. We barely get to see his friendship with Sonic, he almost never fights (even though we all know he can), and he BARELY EVEN FLIES. It’s really unfortunate because games at that times were giving a completely different image of him. Amy is also extremely weakened (I mean come on they seriously nerfed her hammer and her overall skills) and Cream is shown to be capable of fighting, yet rarely ever does. These characters are sometimes only there to be there, or to end up in trouble and be rescued by Sonic. The only main animal characters who actually get to “show off” in that sense are Sonic and Knuckles. While yes, we all know they’re accomplished fighters, but the show treats the others like they’re nothing and can’t handle anything on their own. And yeah, Chris is an extremely annoying character who mostly stole Tails and (sometimes) Amy’s roles. Edit: also remember all of Tails’ fights in Sonic Adventure? He doesn’t fight any of them in the show. He mostly literally stands there and watches as Sonic fights Eggman and Chaos 4. It’s really sad honestly, since these games were trying to develop Tails as an independent hero on his own. Same applies to Amy in this game and Cream in other character-building moments in Advance and Heroes.
Okay this is coming from a guy who is not that deep in to Sonic yet but while I experienced Tails being a bad ass fighter in Sonic Mania, where he is my favorit character to play as, I found his depiction in Sonic X interesting. Its been a while since I watched the show but I remember a decend amount from season 3 and Tails is redicilioues in season 3. Yes he has little to no combat capebilities in this show to the point that even Metarex grunts are a threat to him but in return his tech geniues thing is brought up to 11. He build a giant space ship, with warp function, an energy shield, a security system, a hangar with multipple space jets, laser guns and that giant Sonic power canon. And Tails serves as both enginer and capt of that ship. What did mania Tails ever do in the tech departmeant? Build a plane? Hack one of Eggmans traps? Its as if Tails rearanged his skill points and put everything in his tech skills. Also the fact that he is not much of a fighter kinda makes it cooler that he still has the guts to fight to his last breath if he is cornered. Its been a while but I remember Tails being pretty dam awsome in Sonic X.
I think it's safe to say that the writers of this show had little to no idea how to write for a majority of Sonic characters. I also have a hunch that they thought kids simply wouldn't relate to them, hence why most of the story seems to be told through Chris Thorndyke's eyes. Putting so much focus of this human kid character was such a big mistake in my opinion! Imagine making a Batman show where most of the focus is not on Batman, but on some kid who goes to school! Then when something bad happens to him Batman just pops out of nowhere, saves the day, and we focus on the kid looking wide eyed and going "Wow!"
And I think the adventure 1 2 and battle adaptation could have been better if they just make chris a background character or they just don't make him involved with the adventure and fighters stuff and yey that's it becuase those arcs should only be sonic characters for these arcs not chris
I'll be honest, the biggest favtor of me joining the Sonic fandom, was looking over at what my brother was watching on the TV, and hearing Sonic say, "Kids, don't use formula one race cars to chase Hedgehogs."
I liked the scene where, after going home, Eggman and crew are making loads of noise at night demanding they tell him where sonic is and annoys Amy to the point where she throws her hammer at his "unbreakable" ship and dents it, horrified that she was able to make a dent in their super strong ship but relieved she only has one hammer, they taunt her with that "fact". She gets angry and in a blaze of fire her hammer spawns in her hand and they get scared, she throws it repeatedly at them and they run away basicly begging for mercy. That's what I remember anyway. Made me laugh.
Oh yeah, that scene was funny. I also liked the bit where one of Eggman’s robots shouts at Amy that the reason Sonic hasn’t come home yet is because he couldn’t stand to be around her anymore. That was brutal, dear god.
I really wish Sega brought cosmo back. It would be a pleasure to have a very great character like her back, she's pretty much my second favorite sonic character of all time while tails is my first. Cosmo needs more love! #Bringcosmoback
Yes and not only Cosmo, but I'd like to see Emerl, and Tikal. Sure people can say that their stories are done or that they're dead but come on now. There's those Sport/Party/Race games that could have them as playable characters!
@@Alex-oc1fu Emerl is sorta back as Gemerl. If you played Advance 3 it makes sense. He hasn't been used in the games at all since - and that's saddening. Tikal has shown up at least. I got nothin for Cosmo - unless the plant in Tails workshop in Chronicles counts
Yes, let’s bring back the character who did nothing but almost get everyone on the blue typhoon killed multiple times. Oh and also was a god, that too. Never explained when she gained that weird ass form, if she’s had it for a while or not. Her character was made only to die and so tails could go right back to being the Vegeta of Sonic media.
Sonic X is unironically one of my favorite animes, despite its cheesy dub and other stuff. My favorite episode is episode 19, Sonic’s Scream Test! The haunted castle is my favorite original location in Sonic X, and the Japanese version even has a unique soundtrack! I always wondered why the ghosts took almost everyone hostage and trapped them within some kind of demonic pocket dimension, and why the captives became unconscious upon being pulled into it. The scene where the ghosts begin kidnapping the castle visitors is my favorite for that reason. Maybe the hostages would turn into ghosts themselves if they were kept in that realm long enough? Maybe the ghosts were gonna eat them? It sounds silly, but thinking about things like that is why that episode is my favorite. It’s also got my favorite English dub line in the series: *”It grabbed Tails!!”*
9:38 Season 2's ending was also the ending to Sonic X's Netflix release. It stinks that Season 3 wasn't added, but I'm also glad that there are no loose ends.
Honestly this show was a big part of my childhood. I wasn’t around in 2003 to see it, in fact I didn’t know it even existed for a while. I remember watching this show on RUclips when I was 7, 3 years later I find out it’s on Netflix and I watch it there, 3 years later, I’m currently rewatching the show. I love this show. Me and my older brother watched this show and it brought us a lot of good memories of re-enacting it at the playground.
I think the episode with Helen is my favorite one from season 1. I remember laughing my butt off at the comedy but still feeling warm and fuzzy inside because of Sonic and Helen's interactions.
Ok so, other than Chris and a handful of characters that have really high pitched voices(Cream in particular,) my favorite thing about the show will always be the voice cast. I really, REALLY miss J Griff as Sonic and Shadow, and Lisa Ortiz as Amy. For what it’s worth Jason probably can’t really voice Sonic any more, but I’d love so much to see him come back as Shadow. Anyways, for the show itself, minus FUCKING CHRIS, I really liked watching through it. Amy was my favorite character of everyone on the show, and the episodes where she got a lot of screen time ended up being my favorite, Sonic’s Scream Test(yes the nightmare fuel episode), standing out to me as probably my favorite episode of the whole show. Oh and, once again, fuck Chris.
Yeah the 4Kids voice cast is superb. Unfortunate that only Mike As Eggman has stayed on, though of all the voices to keep I’m glad it was him. Really sucks that Amy got turned into Minnie Mouse though. Heck I even like Tails’ voice, I don’t like the direction they took his voice colours onwards personally and I think it was the right balance between being too deep and too child-like.
Jason can still do the voice of sonic and shadow to this day even Lisa Ortiz as Amy. There’s a youtuber that invites those voice actors for skits and to play as their role they used to have in the past.
If I'm being honest, I feel the scenes between Shadow and Chris worked fairly well. I think it has more of an impact if it's a human trying to convince him not to destroy Earth and the only reason Chris is able to convince him is thanks to the resemblance he has with Maria. I think the root of the issues people have with Chris is due to the way the writers mishandled his character. The serious problems he faces are told but not shown or are contradicted a short time later. It's explained to us that his unhealthy attachment to Sonic is the result of his parent's unintentional emotional neglect and because he doesn't have any friends his own age. The latter is almost immediately contradicted by introducing a trio of kids who appear to have been close to him for a while and the former situation is screwed up by the way his parents are portrayed that leaves Chris looking like an unreasonable, spoilt child who doesn't appreciate the efforts of his parents. It's true that he's extremely rich but that brings its own set of problems, one of which is potentially alienating him from his peers and another is that his parents think they can make up for their absence with gifts and toys. Concerning Chuck and the servants, another commenter (ILoveJesusMySavior) explains it better but what it boils down to is that they aren't his parents, and no matter how much they love and try, they just can't fill that void.
Thank you for this! I really hope they reboot Sonic X one day, with a bigger budget, better writers, and a more reliable dubbing company, if only for Chris' sake. He was done so dirty.
One of the dark moments in Season 3 was the space mission Shadow and Rouge went on, showing the meta-Rex and the what happened to the humans becoming part of a tree( if I remembered that episode correctly).
You should've watched the Japanese version, the voice acting, lines and music is better. They even played Live and Learn when Sonic and Shadow fought Finalhazard. Also it is uncensored, the censorship really affects some episodes that involve death.
16:00 oooooh I love this episode. I call it the “Shadow goes full Terminator mode episode”. He basically is the T-1000 from the terminator series. Slowly walking down hallways menacingly to catch his target. Even though he can run as fast as Sonic he chooses not to. He’s just that confident he’ll catch his target and it’s terrifying.
The sub and dub are truly such a case of “same name, different show.” If I wanted to get a kid invested into sonic lore and characters through a TV show, I’d show them English Sonic X. If I wanted to get literally anyone else on board, Or if I wanted to change the opinion of any person who only saw the English version, I’d show them Japanese sonic X. It truly is superior in every way. Chris is better (like, obscenely so - the way his dialogue is written makes his character a lot more palatable, among other improvements), the jokes are funnier, the serious moments land better, and the emotions are more authentic. The English dub also made a lot of changes/cuts that make things way more confusing and non-sensical than it should be. Overall, let me be another broken record to say that the Japanese cut is the way to go. It’s definitely still a show that’s fun to laugh at than to genuinely adore, but it’s still a “good” anime in its own right
Any time I learn that a show was first made in Japan, then dubbed in English, I assume the Japanese version is better by default, unless we're talking about Ghost Stories.
What I found interesting is that in the last episode where cosmo talks to sonic and let’s him know things are fine and she’s with her family that doesn’t happen in the sub but instead dark oat talks to sonic and asks him if he’s willing to accept the fact people will suffer, die, and there will be war. Sonic basically says “yes” because it’s better to have the freedom to make your own choices and the possibility of suffering than for there to be peace and no freedom at all… especially when we get to see what dark oats idea of “peace” meant.. guy was space hitler
I agree with you that Helen should have been part of the main cast and not Chris. Not only is she far more relateble than Chris due to the fact that she isn't rich, but she also provides a nice contras between herself and Sonic. Sonic is all about speed and running fast. Helen on the other hand can't do those things, because she's stuck to her wheelchair. Sure, swaping out Chris for Helen would require a lot rewrites, but I'm sure that would have been a far better end product than the 1 we got in the end.
don't make me copy and paste someone elses comment which is longer then those essays they make you write in high school. But yeah, chris is bascially only like that in the 4KIDS DUB, because if 4kids is dubbing, what do you expect.
@@jed1458Did I ever discuss Chris's voice acting? NOPE. It doesn't matter if Chris's voice work was good or not regardless of what dub I watched it on (I watched the Dutch dub and I didn't have any issues with it aside from the the fact that The Netherlands doesn't have that many VAs compaired to other English speaking countries). The reason why I view Helen as superior is because she.... OK, wait. Now I'm just repeating myself. Go re-read my originel comment if wanna know I view Helen as superior over Chris.
An idea for a drinking game: take a shot every time a character says "roger" or announced what they're doing while they're doing it. ("Fireing missiles", "activating Sonic Cannon").
2:46 i just realized sonic mania referenced EggTV in studiopolis zone it even has a similar eggman animation on the screen when you start act 2. That zone is filled to the brim with a bunch of obscure references and fan service.
There's also the line in the first episode where the dub mistranslates Knuckles as saying "It used to be Chaos Control" instead of just "It's Chaos Control".
So it turns out that this was the FIRST series I had ever binge watched. I'm starting to recall that first time I experienced finishing a series, that hollow feeling I've grown all too familiar with 😂
I have two main issues with season 3. One was their decision to kill Cosmo and Sega's subsequent decision to never use her again, even though she is by far the most requested character in the history of the franchise (especially now with bronies latching onto her). Her death didn't do anything for Tails' character development, instead regressing it and bringing everything back to the status quo. Tails' character arc peaked when he protected Cosmo from Shadow in episode 73, so him having to kill her isn't going to do anything for his character, except maybe put him off ever wanting to make a weapon like the Sonic Driver again. The second issue, and the biggest by far is that this was basically Sonic's fault. It never would have come to Tails having to kill Cosmo in the first place if Sonic had just taken the initial fight against Dark Oak seriously. In the final fight, they had all of the heads except for Dark Oak's destroyed. Had Sonic taken the first fight seriously, that would've been the end of the war. But instead, he played around in his Super form until it wore off, and then had to scatter the Emeralds to stop the Metarex from getting them. Even Dark Oak observed that if Sonic had taken the fight seriously and gone all-out, he would've likely been destroyed by the Hedgehog. Sonic never once acknowledges that he is responsible for many of the deaths that result from his inaction in the first battle. In fact, in the final episode, he is largely absent until Eggman shows up. And then he just shows up to take his place in the fight. I hate to say, but this felt really out of character for him. Even in the games, he probably would've acknowledged that all of this could've been avoided if it wasn't for his arrogance. This whole arc was indeed Sonic's greatest failure.
20:30 it is really smart how the handeld it, making Sonic so mad that he would kill and destroy everything and the only one who can stop him is is archenemy, and even eggman says he needs to calm the heck down, I think that says alot about sonics underlying anger and hatred Sorry if there are grammar errors, I am Dutch
In the french dub, we had Live and Learn. Actually, some censorship from the english never make it into french. No police "lasergun", but actual fire arm and live amo.
0:12 Sonic-X, 2003, 4-Kids 1:13 So Bad It’s Good 1:54 Eggman, what happened? 2:38 What an idea mess 3:03 Episode Forumla, Season 1 5:40 Season 2, Sonic Adventure 6:58 Sonic Adventure 2 8:20 ML Robot 8:45 Go Back Home Arc 9:43 Chris Thorndike 11:45 Voice Cast ROCKS, music 13:10 Crush 40 13:45 Season 3 Melodrama Adventure Cyborgs Taking Over The World Planet Jumping Cosmo-Tails Romance Shadow-Side Episodes 15:42 Darker Truths Revealed 17:23 Tree CyBorgs 18:05 Chris, Animal Characters Fully Fleshed-Out Character Arc 20:10 Dark Sonic 22:20 4-minute Summary/Conclusion
Boy, this was a huge time-consumer for you (might be the longest video on your channel yet). As for my opinions on the show, I've already re-watched the first two seasons (dubbed), and the second season is my favorite so far with my favorite episodes being That's What Friends Are For and Showdown in Space. It was my favorite Sonic show until Mania Adventures came, but even I have to admit it has some flaws here and there. Glad you could cover this show now, and I await the next review!
12:50 bro when he says this doesn’t leave your head, he’s right… I watched this as a very young little boy and find myself singing that shit randomly and I haven’t heard it since
If you've yet to see the Sonic The Hedgehog show in its entirety, you MUST do so! It's so freaking good! One of the best cartoons of that era for sure, and one of the best pieces of Sonic media, full stop.
What I Think It's Least Great About Sonic X 1. It’s my best favorite and just first ever watched Sonic TV show not long after when I just fore the first time both knew about and played Sonic. 2. Anime adaptation of the modern Sonic games, especially just the first modern and my best favorite Sonic game Sonic Adventure. 3. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles cliché. 4. Showing flashback how Sonic and Tails met adapted the same flashback from the Sonic Adventure game. 5. There were least some CGI effects, forexsample the Spin Attack move, Egg Carrier vessel in few scenes, X Tornado in few scenes, Blue Typhone, Eclipse Cannon, the water, some explosions and blowing leaves in episode 13. 6. Sonic and his friends designs look almost like their 2D modern artworks, most human characters are both realistic and were less off-modeled and Cosmo’s species had great design just designed as humanoid plant alien species who seems they were regular plants evolved into humanoid plants and could be seen as an opposite or a counterpart to the anthropomorphic animals. 7. The english intro and the Gotta Go Fast song. 8. The Sonic head silhouette icon on the title logo. 9. The live action movie probably have been inspirated by Sonic X since both just have most similarities I love. 10. Although I do not like season 3, Dark Oak was least a great and darker and edgier villain who I want also to appear in the main canon game series and there are organic life evolve to robots and robots take over the world cliché plot. What I Think Sucks About Sonic X 1. Most episodes are boring, especially the whole season 3 is boring and only focusing on only one saga, both focusing less on and were rarely funny moments with the protagonist Sonic, not focusing on Sonic’s world, scenes and other anthropomorphic animals in the pilot weren't also in Sonic X and last only three seasons. 2. The series had low budget unlike most other anime. There were lot animation bump, there were little CGI effects, were only few soft-shaded visible and animated objects, the sky have better quality only in season 3, the simplified non-human characters were often off-modeled than the realistic and less simplified characters and both Sonic and Shadow didn’t have six quills even when both Sonic in Super Sonic form and OVA anime Sonic have six quills. 3. Sonic X is the only anime adaptation of the modern Sonic games. 4 It's never revealed how Doctor Eggman ended up on Sonic’s world and why he also have to go back to Sonic's world because of destruction and freezing of time when he's from Earth. 5. Still missing some Sonic Adventure 1 & 2 and other Sonic game elements and sources, characters like Metal Sonic and E-123 Omega, all the main character's backstories, Action Stage locations, level up items and soundtracks. 6. Little anime-esque expressions, effects and feelings. 7. No Christmas episode. 8. Amy is more annoying and even selfish fan girl especially in season 3, although she at the same time still seems kind and caring as her video game counterpart. 9. Sonic’s world and Cosmo’s species’ names are never mentioned. 10. The title name simply just named "Sonic X" and not have same name as the Sonic main canon game series. 11. There’s no“Gotta Go Fast” long song version. 12. The English censored version isn’t as much good as the original Japanese version.
To be fair. In s3 Chris is technically almost an adult. So it makes sense why he's seems more mature compared to s1 and 2. But yeah s3 Chris is still way better than s1 and 2
(My current opinion) and also there might be mistakes on some sentences so beware. I like the characters in Chris mansion and Chris himself isn’t all that bad until like Ep 26 (Super Sonic introduction). Chris is family is okay at best, his mom is fine and is oblivious, his father is caring and I like that one episode were Chuck (I think that’s his dad’s name?) yells at him for leaving work to see Chris who had like a flu or just a cold and Sam is cool and I like how he’s like Sonic in some way. For Chris friends (one I forgot the one Sonic took to see flowers) I like her character, as for the others I feel like they should appear more so. I’m fine with Tails, Cream & Cheese and Vinilla is fine I guess, Amy is the worst since she’s annoying and she never develops, The Chaotix are fun but wish they appeared more, Cosmo is good but personally I don’t care. Sonic is good but he’s more calmer and imo it’s kind of boring but I do like most of his personality as at his best as when he took one of Chris friend to see flowers, Ep51 (I think that’s the episode before Sonic came back to his world). Also the boat episode but I feel like Sonic being calmer and focused (or something) was pointless as Ella (how’d you spell her mame?) smashed Eggman’s ship using the X Tornado (I think that’s the ship). Season 1 was fine I enjoyed it with it’s comedy, Season 2 also but personally not as much and Season 3 idk why but I felt like it was ehh cool but ehh idk why I don’t really care. 4Kids voice acting is alright, censor weakens the story and impact on the characters like Molly.
Wow, pretty solid review you got here. I watched this show as a kid and came back to rewatch the sa1 and 2 arcs and season 3. The show isn't good, but man does it have a special place in my heart, and I agree with mostly everything you said. The transitions were also very sweet and I loved them
I was watching the show on hulu and I looked at the next episode on episode 72 and um, well it only showed the to first three letters of the word assassin so Hulu accidentally insulted shadow lol. I'm pretty sure shadow is a hedgehog and not a donkey.
When I watched Sonic X as a kid, I was SO DISAPPOINTED with how they handled *both* my favorite robots. E-102γ was made to be a nothing character here when he _originally_ had such an emotionally moving story. As you said, he came and left way too quickly... He also had the *WORST VOICE EVER.* Why was his voice _HIGH_ here??? He has the deepest voice out of the whole cast! Emerl was ALSO made to be a no one because, lo and behold, the Sonic Battle section was *over too quickly.* He was one the best written characters in Sonic game history with *ANOTHER* really sad ending. Now, _his_ voice was a travesty... Because _he didn't have one._ *WHY DIDN'T HE HAVE ONE?* He talks throughout almost the ENTIRE GAME, adapting parts of the personalities of everyone he bonded with... Yet they forgo giving him a voice. They honestly could have incorporated him into an entire season if they had followed the game a *lot* closer. That was a *long* game. A side note, Sonic named him ML *why?* What's wrong with _Emerl?_ Anyway, that's my first internet rant of my life, so yeah. Lol
You should have watched it in Japanese... There are entire scenes cut out. Seems kind of unfair to review it in English KNOWING about these differences but I won't go off about that anymore.
I have, its certainly better - reminds me somewhat of the difference between the english and japanese script in SA2. However, its still not a good anime. Plus it still has Chris Thorndyke. No way to fix that.
@@Ergeniz Ok that's fine. I don't consider it great myself , I just like when things are reviewed as honestly as possible. Sonic as a series especially could really use less misinformation going around :/ All that said I really liked the video, I hope they make another Sonic series similar to Sonic X one day just without some of its issues like shitty animation or Chris.
@@starstorm4077 I agree the uploader shoots himself in the foot by insisting on watching dubs. BTW, you can easily find subs of almost any anime free online if you know where to look, but I suspect he's one of those types that just can't bear to read subtitles.
when in doubt abandoned the dubbed version of the show in season 3 and just watch the sub in order to die mentally thanks to episode 25. Also let me talk about how dark episode 25 ended in japan. Instead of getting a happy outro song you'd get a sad song for a sad moment because the credits are basically cosmo gets killed, tails becomes sort of depressed, the end, although I still cried during the 4kids dub
11:47 that’s only for 4kids because there are a lot of if not so much good dubbed anime like dragon ball and full metal alchemist. Not to mention death note, black lagoon, and cowboy bebop. You should watch the ghost stories English dub
I love all 3 seasons of Sonic X; it’s one of my favorite shows of all time. What really saves the show are the character development, and the story of all 3 seasons, even the first 2 seasons. It has some heart between one character and the other, and has good moral lessons in it. Chris doesn’t bother me that much because he sometimes helpful, but I could careless. I don’t like when he talks about Sonic not wanting him to leave Earth. I would rank Chris a 5/10. Everything else is great, and I would give this anime a 9/10.
Sonic X is my favorite Sonic show. Sonic Boom is funny, but I prefer the more serialized story of X better. One of my biggest complaints about the show is how characters *never* stay on model. If you're looking for it, you realize just how much the characters proportions change in every shot. Sometimes Eggman's mustaches barely covers his face, and other times it's as wide as his shoulders. Knuckles' fists are either huge or strangely tiny. Amy's head seems inflated sometimes, and Tails' tails are either bigger than him or barely visible. The show is good, but it has a lot of issues that could be considered deal breakers for other people.
I’ll just say my piece: I like the dub for this show a lot. The characters sound like how I think they would, and the scripts remain more or less the same as in Japanese. However, 4kids butchered the dialogue (and thus the context) so much that I much prefer listening in Japanese with subtitles because that actually conveys what’s going on. That said, this was only really an issue in Season 3, where they basically shafted the Tails and Cosmo romance despite it being flat out stated in that one literal matchmaker episode. Tl;dr, I like both sub and dub, and I have my reasons for each one.
I thought the scripts were similar to how they were Japanese? Were they similar or different? I watched both but it was so long ago I don’t remember the differences.
@@wannabehistorian371 In season 3, the scripts and censored scenes change a bit from the English version to the Japanese in some episodes, much more in the last 10-15 episodes. Dunno the other seasons, because I watched them all in English but then rewatched the last season in Japanese with eng subtitles, and the final ones were much better in Japanese.
Ironically, Chris actually dies at the end? I remember watching the Japanese version as a kid and that Eggman fucking kills Chris in the end of season 3 when he “Went home” the capsule explodes if I’m not wrong
20:39 Eggman on full display showing everyone how hypocritical he is with that one line. I remember watching this back in my teens. I may watch this series in it's entirety because I've only watched most of season 1, only bits of season 2 and rare episodes of season 3. It was made from a different time so it'll obviously have it's cheesy moments of screenplay, dialogue and overused cutscene gimmicks like how they do most of the one screen fight scenes like it's a slideshow. As long as it's appealing to me with comedy and emotion done right I'll give it a watch. You can't forget Eggman ways doing the noblewoman's laugh though every chance he got.
You lost me with "im going with the dub" at the start of the video. I really want to see a review from someone who sees the japanese version thoroughly, its so different i dont think falls into the "so bad its good" category
I watched both the dub and sub and I agree. It's two different experiences. If the dub is so bad it's good then the sub is actually decent bordering good.
Coming from someone who watched the sub, I agree. Everyone was just so much more interesting, especially the humans. Like how in the dub, Sam just goes by Sam Speed, but he gets a new name every time he shows up in the sub. It made me more excited to see the character. Plus, Mr. Tamara kicked butt in the sub. Even Chris gets character development in the third season. (Maybe this happened in the dub as well, but I only watched season 3 in sub.) Watching him be mature and actually useful made every time I had to see him mess everything up actually worthwhile. (Also I liked the relationship between Tanaka and Topaz more in the sub. It felt so sudden in the dub.)
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Gotta Go Fast
Can you do a review on the woody wood pecker movie
3:30 so 4kids censored most violence and yet they will have Amy kick a small child? They are really confusing
nice 24 frames of nick reference 0:51
Did you watch the original Japanese?
Actually, in the Japanese dub, Shadow is revealed to still be alive in the final episode.
"My name's Big, because I'm big. And this is Froggy, because he's a frog"
This made me crack xD
#oscarworthy
Big's brain is overheating from reaching levels the human brain wasn't designed to properly accommodate for. Big is pushing the limits and he needs to chill the fuck down if he wants to continue his fishing days.
Big had better character in the Dreamcast game than in the english dubbed version of Sonic X.
"My name is Big cuz I'm FAT"
He’s actually a genius
I realized something while watching this review. I, like you, thought Chris' attachment to Sonic was unnaturally strong given how little time he and Sonic spent together, and I thought he should've felt more attached to Tails, Amy, and Cream since he spent more time with them. But then I realized that's exactly why he felt more attached to Sonic. Chris views his mother and father as his parents, even though his grandpa and maid (and also kinda his butler) are the ones parenting him. There's a deleted/trimmed flashback scene from the Japanese version where Chris was waiting for his mother and father to come home for Christmas, and when the door opens, it's not them, but Ella with two presents they sent because they weren't coming after all. I think all that was left of that scene in the dub is him looking sadly at the trainset they sent him, which makes him look spoiled and ungrateful. His natural, biological longing for attention from his mother and father, aggravated by their broken promises, shaped his attachment style so that he craves the attention of whoever pays him the least mind. Just like he wishes his mother and father could be around while feeling like his grandpa and maid aren't his official parents, he wants Sonic to stay and values him as a best friend more than Tails and the girls. Him kidnapping Sonic was him trying to take control in his life. He's never been able to get his parents to stay, so he wants to get someone to stay.
Lol, people may hate Chris even when he’s the most three-dimensional with a real story arc and backstory.
That is interesting!! I never knew that detail about him got cut out! This makes me appreciate the character WAY clearer. Thank you!
The hatred for Chris is often due to people misunderstanding the character because of the dub.
You put it better than I could. I think people give Chris too much flack.
Good comment, but he didn't "kidnap" Sonic. Sonic was free to leave whenever he wanted. Grabbing someone's hand and running with them isn't kidnapping.
I loved the way you explained that!
This was my favorite show as a kid. I always loved how’d they connected the Adventure games to the show.
I really want a show like sonic x but with the modern games. Imagine a riders episode??
Same! Best season by far!
💯💯💯💯💯
Two years later, and didn't even fix it? Sad
12:38 "And whenever Rouge comes on screen, a saxophone has a seizure...like...eVerY sIngLe TimE." As a musician and saxophonist, I find this line extremely hilarious. The saxophone riff does get annoying. But I get why they do it. Rouge is a sexy character.
The instrument is nicknamed the sexophone for a reason.
I believe in one version of the soundtrack (Either the JP or European version idk) her theme is titled "the sexy bat thief" or something like that.
@@eternalreality3260 japanese
Oh my gosh I thought the same thing when watching the series I found it hilarious
Thanks for the replay button
A bit of trivia: Season 3 was commissioned by 4kids and a French company due to the success of the show in those territories. The third season never even aired on Japanese television until very recently, it went straight to video there.
Season 3 is greatly better honestly. Recently re-watch it
@@komlat253 Would be even better without Chris Thorndyke
French dub is better than the English one too
Chris is good in season 3 though
Season 3 was not commissioned by 4kids. That is a fan myth started by BlazeHedgehog and has no Sonic Team/Sega credibility behind it (Just like his incorrect assertion that Sonic 06 was ever a reboot).
If you haven't watched S3 in Japanese, do it, or at least the last several episodes. It gets REALLY good.
Fuck no. Why would I watch words
@@dgcrash8830 the pros outweigh the cons, trust me.
@@jonahstein3034 Do you know how many times I hear the same shit being said about anime? It gets pretty damn aggravating and borderline disrespectful when people shit on English VA’s as if they aren’t trying their best as well.
@@dgcrash8830 it has more emotion
*_trollface_*
@@dgcrash8830 it's because 4Kids edited out many important scenes
Damn, Shadow made a friend and lost her all over again and it was cut out of the dub. Well, she just jetted off instead of died.
She did die
she was human... so indeed needed air. so..
@@-Gwa Yeah, 4kids' opinion on death never made any sense to me, with emphasis on Yu-Gi-Oh. Instead of straight-up killing someone, the loser gets sent to an inescapable realm of endless torment. "But at least they're not dead!"
When I red the first two words of your comment I immediately thought "WHERE IS THAT 4TH CHAOS EMERALD"
Shadow is like detective Conan and Jessica Fletcher. He carries bad luck.
I hate how the dub handled Chris’s episode, making it all like “oh but you’re my best friend, Sonic!” It’s different in Japanese: Chris asks Sonic why he’s been by his side all this time, and why Sonic went along with him instead of going back to his world, and Sonic replies “because you saved my life” Chris gets upset and asks if Sonic has only been with him because he feels like he owes Chris, and questions if they are friends, and Sonic says “friendship is free will” like you can’t force friendship, dude. Chris realises how he’s been holding Sonic back, and notes how in the past few days Sonic hasn’t even been able to run free because of him, and realises that he is a “bad friend”
But in the dub he only lets Sonic go because Sonic is like “yOu’eR mY fRieNd, aNd we’Ll sEe eAch otHEr aGAiN”
There is clearly a lot more to the english episode than you're claiming.
Thats why i recommend watching the subs before dubs
@@EWOODJ Oh yeah, OP didn't even cover how manipulative Eng Chris was in the episode.
He straight up tells Sonic he's (Sonic) gonna forget about him (Chris), cause he's always forgetful.
Or on multiple occasions tells Sonic he'll go back to being lonely once he leaves.
Chris only relents once Sonic went "okay I'll stay if that's what you want," and THEN Sonic says that "we'll see each other again" line.
There's absolutely no coverage on *why* Sonic's friends with him or even went with him. He just rolls with it.
@austria-hungary7680 wait but isn't it better to watch the dub first if the sub is better?
Not gonna lie: Sonic X is what brought me into the Sonic fandom! I enjoyed this show a lot and fell in love with the characters and wanted to know more about them. And before I knew, I was actually a fan of this franchise! :D
Agreed, it was this show & Sonic Heroes for me
Me too! This show was my entire childhood. I don't think it will ever be tarnished for me, even with all it's flaws.
Except the part where sonic and shadow are mistaken for eachother. Hated that, how stupid must everyone be??
Ngl, even in the english dub, this show had some SERIOUS emotional moments. The top 3 I remember are when Shadow remember Maria and you see tears in his eyes, when Sonic leave Chris and you see his tears splash against Chris's face, and when Cosmo sacrificed herself.
I don't remember if I cried in these episodes, I do remember getting pretty dang close.
I cried during ep 25 despite knowing that cosmo was going to die before even watching season 2's finale. yes, season 2. If I didn't have a soft spot for animals tho I would've been fine. screw tails, if it weren't for him (my second most favorite character in the series) I wouldn't of cried.
Molly's death in season 3 was even sadder. Rouge was screaming on top of her lungs. Eggman had a disappointing face and shadow was just silent. He had no reactions he already lost his old friend maria and had to deal with a similar situation, he just took off his inhibitors and destroyed the flying fleets without mentioning a word. Even at the end of season 3 he was standing towards her grave with a flower on his hand.
people think , humans mystaking Sonic for shadow is dumb, I can totally see why but imo it isn' this far stretched,
the only thing humans know about Sonic is that he's fast and can change colour(Super Sonic) so giving the fact that during Shadow stealing the emeralds the only thing humans knew was that it was stole by a hedgehog going at high speed at night, it is not dumb of them at all to assume it's sonic and he maybe changed colour,
For amy it's way more difficult to defend because she "knows" Sonic but even for her it's debatable
That kind of logic you have right there is bullshit!!!!
@@voiceacticon667 if it's bullshit than you better explain why if you want any credibiity
@@dragonmaster3030 the idiot honestly thinks that the main thing everyone knew about sonic was that he was fast and changed color because he went super?? That kind of statement is only something that fans would think of; no character within the show would take that into consideration!
@@voiceacticon667 what you said makes no sense. No character would take WHAT into consideration, the fact that they know Sonic is fast and can change color, And that eye witnesses said that they saw a fast hedgehog, thus assuming this black hedgehog similar in shape to Sonic is sonic actualy isn't that far of a stretch?
please come up with actual arguments or logic before opening your stinky ass mouth, moreso if it's for calling people idiots
thank you, I think I'll print screen your comment and reference it whenever someone says mistaking Shadow for Sonic is dumb
I can't explain how happy the fact that he's seen Snapcube's fandubs makes me.
You already made this comment
@@brenisis2772 it's just RUclips being drunk again
Pissing on the moon~
"Hot Topic Mascot Shadow"
Express. All emotions are hard to explain.
The peak of Sonic X for me is in the Adventure game arcs. They do a better job at explaining Maria, and the Shadow line “Don’t talk to me about fair! NOT AFTER WHAT HAPPENED HERE!” gets me every time.
Tails: ThomasCapella asks "To everyone except Shadow because he already answered: What's your favorite anime?"
Eggman: Mine's a bit dark. You might not like it. Involes ghouls and the like.
Sonic: Heh, mine's easy. *_Sonic X!_* Not that I'm bias or anything. How bout you, Tails?
Tails: I like the one where the kid becomes a hero, One for All!
Shadow: Mine's still the one with the girl and the Scissor Blade. It's the greatest anime of all time and none of you will ever change my mind.
-Sonic Twitter Takeover 4, 2019
I remember that! But In my opinion, Code: Geass might change Shadow’s mind.
Reading that comment, it fills me with cringe
Eggman threatened to blow up the earth he wasn’t going to actually do it because he wouldn’t have an empire to rule if he did. So when he tells the Metarex that hurting innocent people is not expectable is actually in character.
Exactly.
Otherwise, where would he be building it. Plus no one would even bother going there, because they are all dead.
So Sonic and all his friends weren't innocent in the countless times he tried to kill them?
Exactly. Even in Shadow he suddenly became protector of Earth. Also, Eggman is known to lie. Just because he says something doesn't mean he means it.
Didn’t Eggman murder (or at least injure) a bunch of cops who surrendered in like episode 5? And he injured Amy a number of times.
So yeah. That line doesn’t fit.
@Nigel Stoney Eggman deserved to be hit by a Piko-Piko Hammer more than Sonic. He was much worse than him (save for Sonic Adventure 2, especially the ending that got people to think he is, at heart, a good guy after all), especially in the infamous Meta Era where everyone was out of character and the Archie Comics where he sold Mobians as slaves yet everyone hates Sonic more for his woman troubles.
Cosmo is really underrated. Unlike other original characters in Sonic X, Cosmo was actually useful, as she translated the Metarex language and supported the group, in fact, without her, Sonic and his friends wouldn't be able to stop the Metarex. She is also adorable with an shy and clumsy personality who has air sickness and doubts herself. Her friendship with Tails is the highlight of her character, making the ending heartbreaking. Tails also was kind of an badass when Shadow chased Cosmo to kill her. I do like Sonic X a lot, but the flaws keep it from getting any better for me.
Oh right, she also with held that same information, went out to the meteor and almost got herself and Chris killed because of an obvious trap, and on several occasions, has almost gotten everyone killed. Did you watch the season or no? Her one redeeming quality is that she gets offed, because that was her purpose. You could cut out all the shit with her in it, and nothing changes.
@@mariomaster4568 I did. I'm aware she's not perfect and can be seen as useless. Well, even with those flaws, I still like Cosmo as a character. Don't forget that without her, nobody would know what the Metarex language says and helped others out. You obviously dislike her to an extend. We have our different opinions and we leave it at that.
@@charleyrodijk1675 well…did it help? I don’t think it did in the end. Tails was also able to decode the language in that same episode, even without her help. Plus, it was used once and never really again.
Flaws: Sonic (especially) and Knuckles are treated like male-chauvinistic pigs because female characters like Amy Rose and Rouge the Bat are treated like the good guys every time they hit S&K with Piko-Piko Hammers and Screw Kicks
Pros: I shall wait and see after what felt like a long time since I last saw Sonic X. But I’n sure it has its moments, especially in season 3!
@@charleyrodijk1675 Who wants to see a Sonic Boom version of Cosmo? While meant to be a serious/tragic character, it would likely work seeing an older, sillier interpretation of our favourite Seedrian!
I just hate how tails was treated in this and the games,like he’s a helpless little kid. I was happy when tails found someone to attach to and love(cosmo being that someone of course). To this day it irritates me how Sega treats tails as a character and keeps him in the role of the helpless little kid.
I mean, yes, but at least Sonic X was kind enough to give Tails his moment of fame during the bomb defusal episode.
When tails is first brought into the show all you see is the leftover remains of dead robots he destroyed
@@andrewthomasprism9388 you can’t really give Sonic X credit for that since that whole portion of the show was just the events of Sonic Adventure 1.
We need sa1 tails
Tails pilots a giant fucking mech and blows up shit. His true nature is realized here even more so than SA2.
Season 3 was always my favorite i want to watch the Japanese version just to relive it all.
Omg same, I’m not sure if I should or shouldn’t
Yes do it
@@yesartz Absolutely worth it to watch the Japanese version, it’s the complete experience.
Sonic X is great, but there are a lot of issues. The potential is there, so I _really_ hope they'll reboot it someday.
Probably best it stays as a relic of the past, with the attitude SEGA has with sonic we’ll end up with another overly self aware, self-deprecating show like Sonic Boom. I can already see them making Chris even more annoying and being like “LUL ISN’T THIS GUY ANNOYING WE’RE SO TRENDY AMIRITE?”
@@bigfennec season 2 was pretty good of boom
Exactly it's not a bad anime but there are some decisions that hold it back. I like Chris Thorndyke but I think his charachter development was mishandled for instance and I think that's why so many people don't like him. Because his arc is started at the end of season 1, then dropped until the last three episodes of season 2 and it shows cause it's definetly rushed. Good and I get what they were going for but it really should've been spaced out more.
It’s an old show what do u expect? I hope there is a new season so they can fix the old personalities and animation and other stuff so everyone can see what a great show it is, in my opinion I enjoyed it ginormously that I (truly actually) fell in love with sonic
@@CosmicToad5000 Bruh, Sonic Boom's season 2 was amazing!
The episode where Sonic takes Helen to see the flowers is also one of the most memorable things in the entire show for me.
The reason Shadow's character arc didn't feel finished was because 4kids (who ordered the 3rd Season get made back when they had the ability to do that) intended for their to be a 4th Season which the company teased until they went bankrupt. 4kids used to be able to get things made which led to Yugioh Capsule Monsters & the Pyramid of Light Movie in addition to everything relating to Viva Pinata. There are actually some fans of Sonic X who believe that 4kids actually had full storyboards for Season 4 Episodes locked inside some vault. I remember the days when people tried to pass off drawings of Metal Sonic in the X Style as being real leaked screenshots. 4kids going bankrupt in 2011 was officially the end of Sonic X.
One thing I really don’t like is how undermined and sidelined some characters were. For example, Tails is EXTREMELY nerfed. We barely get to see his friendship with Sonic, he almost never fights (even though we all know he can), and he BARELY EVEN FLIES. It’s really unfortunate because games at that times were giving a completely different image of him. Amy is also extremely weakened (I mean come on they seriously nerfed her hammer and her overall skills) and Cream is shown to be capable of fighting, yet rarely ever does. These characters are sometimes only there to be there, or to end up in trouble and be rescued by Sonic. The only main animal characters who actually get to “show off” in that sense are Sonic and Knuckles. While yes, we all know they’re accomplished fighters, but the show treats the others like they’re nothing and can’t handle anything on their own. And yeah, Chris is an extremely annoying character who mostly stole Tails and (sometimes) Amy’s roles.
Edit: also remember all of Tails’ fights in Sonic Adventure? He doesn’t fight any of them in the show. He mostly literally stands there and watches as Sonic fights Eggman and Chaos 4. It’s really sad honestly, since these games were trying to develop Tails as an independent hero on his own. Same applies to Amy in this game and Cream in other character-building moments in Advance and Heroes.
i hate how it carried over into the games
Okay this is coming from a guy who is not that deep in to Sonic yet but while I experienced Tails being a bad ass fighter in Sonic Mania, where he is my favorit character to play as, I found his depiction in Sonic X interesting. Its been a while since I watched the show but I remember a decend amount from season 3 and Tails is redicilioues in season 3. Yes he has little to no combat capebilities in this show to the point that even Metarex grunts are a threat to him but in return his tech geniues thing is brought up to 11. He build a giant space ship, with warp function, an energy shield, a security system, a hangar with multipple space jets, laser guns and that giant Sonic power canon. And Tails serves as both enginer and capt of that ship. What did mania Tails ever do in the tech departmeant? Build a plane? Hack one of Eggmans traps? Its as if Tails rearanged his skill points and put everything in his tech skills. Also the fact that he is not much of a fighter kinda makes it cooler that he still has the guts to fight to his last breath if he is cornered. Its been a while but I remember Tails being pretty dam awsome in Sonic X.
I think it's safe to say that the writers of this show had little to no idea how to write for a majority of Sonic characters. I also have a hunch that they thought kids simply wouldn't relate to them, hence why most of the story seems to be told through Chris Thorndyke's eyes.
Putting so much focus of this human kid character was such a big mistake in my opinion! Imagine making a Batman show where most of the focus is not on Batman, but on some kid who goes to school! Then when something bad happens to him Batman just pops out of nowhere, saves the day, and we focus on the kid looking wide eyed and going "Wow!"
And then Sonic Forces came out
chris literally stole amy's speach to shadow from SA2.
Excellent overview! Season 3 was really where this show shines. And I like the idea of Tails and Chris becoming a duo better than Sonic and Chris.
i agree with all his points on that topic. i even remember thinking something similar during its original run.
And I think the adventure 1 2 and battle adaptation could have been better if they just make chris a background character or they just don't make him involved with the adventure and fighters stuff and yey that's it becuase those arcs should only be sonic characters for these arcs not chris
I can imagine that Tails and Chris would be like the Ted and Dougel of Sonic the hedgehog
I see Cosmo as more of an in-between stage of Ralts and Kirlia tbh.
man, and i thought it was only me T∆T
"There will be spoilers" Oh yeah, it's been out for a quite a bit hasn't it?
"but it's 17 years old, so don't sweat it."
I've become decrepit.
A decade and a half later and I still love Cosmo.
I'll be honest, the biggest favtor of me joining the Sonic fandom, was looking over at what my brother was watching on the TV, and hearing Sonic say, "Kids, don't use formula one race cars to chase Hedgehogs."
I liked the scene where, after going home, Eggman and crew are making loads of noise at night demanding they tell him where sonic is and annoys Amy to the point where she throws her hammer at his "unbreakable" ship and dents it, horrified that she was able to make a dent in their super strong ship but relieved she only has one hammer, they taunt her with that "fact".
She gets angry and in a blaze of fire her hammer spawns in her hand and they get scared, she throws it repeatedly at them and they run away basicly begging for mercy.
That's what I remember anyway.
Made me laugh.
Oh yeah, that scene was funny. I also liked the bit where one of Eggman’s robots shouts at Amy that the reason Sonic hasn’t come home yet is because he couldn’t stand to be around her anymore. That was brutal, dear god.
@@gordonfreeman5735 That was what made her throw the hammer. Bokkun told Amy that Sonic was standing her up again.
I really wish Sega brought cosmo back. It would be a pleasure to have a very great character like her back, she's pretty much my second favorite sonic character of all time while tails is my first. Cosmo needs more love!
#Bringcosmoback
Yes and not only Cosmo, but I'd like to see Emerl, and Tikal. Sure people can say that their stories are done or that they're dead but come on now. There's those Sport/Party/Race games that could have them as playable characters!
@@Alex-oc1fu Emerl is sorta back as Gemerl. If you played Advance 3 it makes sense. He hasn't been used in the games at all since - and that's saddening. Tikal has shown up at least. I got nothin for Cosmo - unless the plant in Tails workshop in Chronicles counts
Well put a tails pfp 😂
@@theinktician Gemerl's a recurring character in the IDW comics at least
Yes, let’s bring back the character who did nothing but almost get everyone on the blue typhoon killed multiple times. Oh and also was a god, that too. Never explained when she gained that weird ass form, if she’s had it for a while or not. Her character was made only to die and so tails could go right back to being the Vegeta of Sonic media.
I detail I love was how calm Sonic was when Chris basically kidnapped him
Sonic X is unironically one of my favorite animes, despite its cheesy dub and other stuff. My favorite episode is episode 19, Sonic’s Scream Test! The haunted castle is my favorite original location in Sonic X, and the Japanese version even has a unique soundtrack! I always wondered why the ghosts took almost everyone hostage and trapped them within some kind of demonic pocket dimension, and why the captives became unconscious upon being pulled into it. The scene where the ghosts begin kidnapping the castle visitors is my favorite for that reason. Maybe the hostages would turn into ghosts themselves if they were kept in that realm long enough? Maybe the ghosts were gonna eat them?
It sounds silly, but thinking about things like that is why that episode is my favorite. It’s also got my favorite English dub line in the series:
*”It grabbed Tails!!”*
9:38 Season 2's ending was also the ending to Sonic X's Netflix release. It stinks that Season 3 wasn't added, but I'm also glad that there are no loose ends.
7:16 Thank you for making that reference. "I'M PISSING ON THE MOOOOON!!!"
Honestly this show was a big part of my childhood. I wasn’t around in 2003 to see it, in fact I didn’t know it even existed for a while. I remember watching this show on RUclips when I was 7, 3 years later I find out it’s on Netflix and I watch it there, 3 years later, I’m currently rewatching the show. I love this show. Me and my older brother watched this show and it brought us a lot of good memories of re-enacting it at the playground.
This was a show I watched MANY years back. I liked Season 1 and 2, but not Season 3. Then again, this was many years back.
I also agread about Season 1 and 2 ad not Season 3.
I think the episode with Helen is my favorite one from season 1. I remember laughing my butt off at the comedy but still feeling warm and fuzzy inside because of Sonic and Helen's interactions.
Ok so, other than Chris and a handful of characters that have really high pitched voices(Cream in particular,) my favorite thing about the show will always be the voice cast. I really, REALLY miss J Griff as Sonic and Shadow, and Lisa Ortiz as Amy. For what it’s worth Jason probably can’t really voice Sonic any more, but I’d love so much to see him come back as Shadow.
Anyways, for the show itself, minus FUCKING CHRIS, I really liked watching through it. Amy was my favorite character of everyone on the show, and the episodes where she got a lot of screen time ended up being my favorite, Sonic’s Scream Test(yes the nightmare fuel episode), standing out to me as probably my favorite episode of the whole show.
Oh and, once again, fuck Chris.
Yeah the 4Kids voice cast is superb. Unfortunate that only Mike As Eggman has stayed on, though of all the voices to keep I’m glad it was him. Really sucks that Amy got turned into Minnie Mouse though.
Heck I even like Tails’ voice, I don’t like the direction they took his voice colours onwards personally and I think it was the right balance between being too deep and too child-like.
Jason can still do the voice of sonic and shadow to this day even Lisa Ortiz as Amy. There’s a youtuber that invites those voice actors for skits and to play as their role they used to have in the past.
If I'm being honest, I feel the scenes between Shadow and Chris worked fairly well. I think it has more of an impact if it's a human trying to convince him not to destroy Earth and the only reason Chris is able to convince him is thanks to the resemblance he has with Maria.
I think the root of the issues people have with Chris is due to the way the writers mishandled his character. The serious problems he faces are told but not shown or are contradicted a short time later. It's explained to us that his unhealthy attachment to Sonic is the result of his parent's unintentional emotional neglect and because he doesn't have any friends his own age. The latter is almost immediately contradicted by introducing a trio of kids who appear to have been close to him for a while and the former situation is screwed up by the way his parents are portrayed that leaves Chris looking like an unreasonable, spoilt child who doesn't appreciate the efforts of his parents.
It's true that he's extremely rich but that brings its own set of problems, one of which is potentially alienating him from his peers and another is that his parents think they can make up for their absence with gifts and toys. Concerning Chuck and the servants, another commenter (ILoveJesusMySavior) explains it better but what it boils down to is that they aren't his parents, and no matter how much they love and try, they just can't fill that void.
Thank you for this! I really hope they reboot Sonic X one day, with a bigger budget, better writers, and a more reliable dubbing company, if only for Chris' sake. He was done so dirty.
One of the dark moments in Season 3 was the space mission Shadow and Rouge went on, showing the meta-Rex and the what happened to the humans becoming part of a tree( if I remembered that episode correctly).
You should've watched the Japanese version, the voice acting, lines and music is better. They even played Live and Learn when Sonic and Shadow fought Finalhazard. Also it is uncensored, the censorship really affects some episodes that involve death.
16:00 oooooh I love this episode. I call it the “Shadow goes full Terminator mode episode”.
He basically is the T-1000 from the terminator series. Slowly walking down hallways menacingly to catch his target. Even though he can run as fast as Sonic he chooses not to. He’s just that confident he’ll catch his target and it’s terrifying.
7:32 Eggman pisses on the moon. nail armstrong leaves the chat
NAAAIIIIL.
TAKE HIS COAT
sir I believe this is the one that blew up half the moon
NAAIL?
DONT. TAKE HIS COAT
The sub and dub are truly such a case of “same name, different show.” If I wanted to get a kid invested into sonic lore and characters through a TV show, I’d show them English Sonic X. If I wanted to get literally anyone else on board, Or if I wanted to change the opinion of any person who only saw the English version, I’d show them Japanese sonic X. It truly is superior in every way. Chris is better (like, obscenely so - the way his dialogue is written makes his character a lot more palatable, among other improvements), the jokes are funnier, the serious moments land better, and the emotions are more authentic. The English dub also made a lot of changes/cuts that make things way more confusing and non-sensical than it should be.
Overall, let me be another broken record to say that the Japanese cut is the way to go. It’s definitely still a show that’s fun to laugh at than to genuinely adore, but it’s still a “good” anime in its own right
Meh
Any time I learn that a show was first made in Japan, then dubbed in English, I assume the Japanese version is better by default, unless we're talking about Ghost Stories.
Nostalgia hit me like a pile of bricks watching this video. I grew up with this show.
What I found interesting is that in the last episode where cosmo talks to sonic and let’s him know things are fine and she’s with her family that doesn’t happen in the sub but instead dark oat talks to sonic and asks him if he’s willing to accept the fact people will suffer, die, and there will be war. Sonic basically says “yes” because it’s better to have the freedom to make your own choices and the possibility of suffering than for there to be peace and no freedom at all… especially when we get to see what dark oats idea of “peace” meant.. guy was space hitler
Lover of green, your channel is very underrated honestly
I see no lies here, carry on
Shadow: Literly black and red
Sonic: Literly blue and peach
Everyone: Yeah this black and red hedghog is sonic
I agree with you that Helen should have been part of the main cast and not Chris. Not only is she far more relateble than Chris due to the fact that she isn't rich, but she also provides a nice contras between herself and Sonic. Sonic is all about speed and running fast. Helen on the other hand can't do those things, because she's stuck to her wheelchair. Sure, swaping out Chris for Helen would require a lot rewrites, but I'm sure that would have been a far better end product than the 1 we got in the end.
don't make me copy and paste someone elses comment which is longer then those essays they make you write in high school. But yeah, chris is bascially only like that in the 4KIDS DUB, because if 4kids is dubbing, what do you expect.
@@jed1458Did I ever discuss Chris's voice acting? NOPE. It doesn't matter if Chris's voice work was good or not regardless of what dub I watched it on (I watched the Dutch dub and I didn't have any issues with it aside from the the fact that The Netherlands doesn't have that many VAs compaired to other English speaking countries). The reason why I view Helen as superior is because she.... OK, wait. Now I'm just repeating myself. Go re-read my originel comment if wanna know I view Helen as superior over Chris.
@@spouwnerring but, I wasn't talking about the voice acting
@@jed1458 but you were talking about the dub
@@spouwnerring I know, but I do not mean the voice acting, I mean other things. The voice acting is fine to me.
An idea for a drinking game: take a shot every time a character says "roger" or announced what they're doing while they're doing it. ("Fireing missiles", "activating Sonic Cannon").
You can watch only season 3 and lose nothing of value and honestly its probably a better show if you only watch the third season
Where can I watch season 3?
@@civilprotectionunit8145 RUclips, it's free too.
2:46 i just realized sonic mania referenced EggTV in studiopolis zone it even has a similar eggman animation on the screen when you start act 2. That zone is filled to the brim with a bunch of obscure references and fan service.
Sometimes, English dub results in mistranslations and mispronunciations. Example: Emerl's name is supposed to be pronounced "Em-Er-L", not "Em-El".
White Fire The Dragon true
There's also the line in the first episode where the dub mistranslates Knuckles as saying "It used to be Chaos Control" instead of just "It's Chaos Control".
19:27 team chaotix owning a space bar was the highlight of the anime.
So it turns out that this was the FIRST series I had ever binge watched. I'm starting to recall that first time I experienced finishing a series, that hollow feeling I've grown all too familiar with 😂
Cosmo is my second fave!
You can tell how I felt when she died.
rip, nothing but pure rip.
I have two main issues with season 3. One was their decision to kill Cosmo and Sega's subsequent decision to never use her again, even though she is by far the most requested character in the history of the franchise (especially now with bronies latching onto her). Her death didn't do anything for Tails' character development, instead regressing it and bringing everything back to the status quo. Tails' character arc peaked when he protected Cosmo from Shadow in episode 73, so him having to kill her isn't going to do anything for his character, except maybe put him off ever wanting to make a weapon like the Sonic Driver again.
The second issue, and the biggest by far is that this was basically Sonic's fault. It never would have come to Tails having to kill Cosmo in the first place if Sonic had just taken the initial fight against Dark Oak seriously. In the final fight, they had all of the heads except for Dark Oak's destroyed. Had Sonic taken the first fight seriously, that would've been the end of the war. But instead, he played around in his Super form until it wore off, and then had to scatter the Emeralds to stop the Metarex from getting them. Even Dark Oak observed that if Sonic had taken the fight seriously and gone all-out, he would've likely been destroyed by the Hedgehog.
Sonic never once acknowledges that he is responsible for many of the deaths that result from his inaction in the first battle. In fact, in the final episode, he is largely absent until Eggman shows up. And then he just shows up to take his place in the fight. I hate to say, but this felt really out of character for him. Even in the games, he probably would've acknowledged that all of this could've been avoided if it wasn't for his arrogance.
This whole arc was indeed Sonic's greatest failure.
20:30 it is really smart how the handeld it, making Sonic so mad that he would kill and destroy everything and the only one who can stop him is is archenemy, and even eggman says he needs to calm the heck down, I think that says alot about sonics underlying anger and hatred
Sorry if there are grammar errors, I am Dutch
22:52 *_IM HERE, REACHING FAR ACROSS THESE NEW FRONTIERS!_*
In the french dub, we had Live and Learn. Actually, some censorship from the english never make it into french. No police "lasergun", but actual fire arm and live amo.
0:12 Sonic-X, 2003, 4-Kids
1:13 So Bad It’s Good
1:54 Eggman, what happened?
2:38 What an idea mess
3:03 Episode Forumla, Season 1
5:40 Season 2, Sonic Adventure
6:58 Sonic Adventure 2
8:20 ML Robot
8:45 Go Back Home Arc
9:43 Chris Thorndike
11:45 Voice Cast ROCKS, music
13:10 Crush 40
13:45 Season 3 Melodrama Adventure
Cyborgs Taking Over The World
Planet Jumping
Cosmo-Tails Romance
Shadow-Side Episodes
15:42 Darker Truths Revealed
17:23 Tree CyBorgs
18:05 Chris, Animal Characters
Fully Fleshed-Out Character Arc
20:10 Dark Sonic
22:20 4-minute Summary/Conclusion
Boy, this was a huge time-consumer for you (might be the longest video on your channel yet). As for my opinions on the show, I've already re-watched the first two seasons (dubbed), and the second season is my favorite so far with my favorite episodes being That's What Friends Are For and Showdown in Space. It was my favorite Sonic show until Mania Adventures came, but even I have to admit it has some flaws here and there. Glad you could cover this show now, and I await the next review!
12:50 bro when he says this doesn’t leave your head, he’s right… I watched this as a very young little boy and find myself singing that shit randomly and I haven’t heard it since
When he said ''how does the last season hold up?" a heaven and hell ad played and someone fell into hell
If you've yet to see the Sonic The Hedgehog show in its entirety, you MUST do so! It's so freaking good! One of the best cartoons of that era for sure, and one of the best pieces of Sonic media, full stop.
when i was a kid i cried in the chosmo sacrifice so fucking hard that the only thing of the show i remember is i crying in this scene
I thought the “Jhonny Test Prequel” was a joke tf. I checked, it really is technically same universe and prequel.
@Liam Que *Mission Complete!*
What I Think It's Least Great About Sonic X
1. It’s my best favorite and just first ever watched Sonic TV show not long after when I just fore the first time both knew about and played Sonic.
2. Anime adaptation of the modern Sonic games, especially just the first modern and my best favorite Sonic game Sonic Adventure.
3. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles cliché.
4. Showing flashback how Sonic and Tails met adapted the same flashback from the Sonic Adventure game.
5. There were least some CGI effects, forexsample the Spin Attack move, Egg Carrier vessel in few scenes, X Tornado in few scenes, Blue Typhone, Eclipse Cannon, the water, some explosions and blowing leaves in episode 13.
6. Sonic and his friends designs look almost like their 2D modern artworks, most human characters are both realistic and were less off-modeled and Cosmo’s species had great design just designed as humanoid plant alien species who seems they were regular plants evolved into humanoid plants and could be seen as an opposite or a counterpart to the anthropomorphic animals.
7. The english intro and the Gotta Go Fast song.
8. The Sonic head silhouette icon on the title logo.
9. The live action movie probably have been inspirated by Sonic X since both just have most similarities I love.
10. Although I do not like season 3, Dark Oak was least a great and darker and edgier villain who I want also to appear in the main canon game series and there are organic life evolve to robots and robots take over the world cliché plot.
What I Think Sucks About Sonic X
1. Most episodes are boring, especially the whole season 3 is boring and only focusing on only one saga, both focusing less on and were rarely funny moments with the protagonist Sonic, not focusing on Sonic’s world, scenes and other anthropomorphic animals in the pilot weren't also in Sonic X and last only three seasons.
2. The series had low budget unlike most other anime. There were lot animation bump, there were little CGI effects, were only few soft-shaded visible and animated objects, the sky have better quality only in season 3, the simplified non-human characters were often off-modeled than the realistic and less simplified characters and both Sonic and Shadow didn’t have six quills even when both Sonic in Super Sonic form and OVA anime Sonic have six quills.
3. Sonic X is the only anime adaptation of the modern Sonic games.
4 It's never revealed how Doctor Eggman ended up on Sonic’s world and why he also have to go back to Sonic's world because of destruction and freezing of time when he's from Earth.
5. Still missing some Sonic Adventure 1 & 2 and other Sonic game elements and sources, characters like Metal Sonic and E-123 Omega, all the main character's backstories, Action Stage locations, level up items and soundtracks.
6. Little anime-esque expressions, effects and feelings.
7. No Christmas episode.
8. Amy is more annoying and even selfish fan girl especially in season 3, although she at the same time still seems kind and caring as her video game counterpart.
9. Sonic’s world and Cosmo’s species’ names are never mentioned.
10. The title name simply just named "Sonic X" and not have same name as the Sonic main canon game series.
11. There’s no“Gotta Go Fast” long song version.
12. The English censored version isn’t as much good as the original Japanese version.
I remember watching it after coming home from middle school. So many memories...
To be fair. In s3 Chris is technically almost an adult. So it makes sense why he's seems more mature compared to s1 and 2. But yeah s3 Chris is still way better than s1 and 2
@Paul Bell yeah. Almost an adult
@Paul Bell ok then he's an adult. I donf understand the issue
For the definitive experience, I highly recommend the original Japanese version with English subtitles.
(My current opinion) and also there might be mistakes on some sentences so beware.
I like the characters in Chris mansion and Chris himself isn’t all that bad until like Ep 26 (Super Sonic introduction).
Chris is family is okay at best, his mom is fine and is oblivious, his father is caring and I like that one episode were Chuck (I think that’s his dad’s name?) yells at him for leaving work to see Chris who had like a flu or just a cold and Sam is cool and I like how he’s like Sonic in some way.
For Chris friends (one I forgot the one Sonic took to see flowers) I like her character, as for the others I feel like they should appear more so.
I’m fine with Tails, Cream & Cheese and Vinilla is fine I guess, Amy is the worst since she’s annoying and she never develops, The Chaotix are fun but wish they appeared more, Cosmo is good but personally I don’t care.
Sonic is good but he’s more calmer and imo it’s kind of boring but I do like most of his personality as at his best as when he took one of Chris friend to see flowers, Ep51 (I think that’s the episode before Sonic came back to his world).
Also the boat episode but I feel like Sonic being calmer and focused (or something) was pointless as Ella (how’d you spell her mame?) smashed Eggman’s ship using the X Tornado (I think that’s the ship).
Season 1 was fine I enjoyed it with it’s comedy, Season 2 also but personally not as much and Season 3 idk why but I felt like it was ehh cool but ehh idk why I don’t really care.
4Kids voice acting is alright, censor weakens the story and impact on the characters like Molly.
Wow, pretty solid review you got here. I watched this show as a kid and came back to rewatch the sa1 and 2 arcs and season 3. The show isn't good, but man does it have a special place in my heart, and I agree with mostly everything you said. The transitions were also very sweet and I loved them
Episode 73 of Sonic X is fucking awesome.
I was watching the show on hulu and I looked at the next episode on episode 72 and um, well it only showed the to first three letters of the word assassin so Hulu accidentally insulted shadow lol. I'm pretty sure shadow is a hedgehog and not a donkey.
11:00 Sonic had a much better connection with Chris in the sub but it still isn't enough to tell you you didn't give him justice
When I watched Sonic X as a kid, I was SO DISAPPOINTED with how they handled *both* my favorite robots.
E-102γ was made to be a nothing character here when he _originally_ had such an emotionally moving story. As you said, he came and left way too quickly... He also had the *WORST VOICE EVER.* Why was his voice _HIGH_ here??? He has the deepest voice out of the whole cast!
Emerl was ALSO made to be a no one because, lo and behold, the Sonic Battle section was *over too quickly.* He was one the best written characters in Sonic game history with *ANOTHER* really sad ending. Now, _his_ voice was a travesty... Because _he didn't have one._ *WHY DIDN'T HE HAVE ONE?* He talks throughout almost the ENTIRE GAME, adapting parts of the personalities of everyone he bonded with... Yet they forgo giving him a voice. They honestly could have incorporated him into an entire season if they had followed the game a *lot* closer. That was a *long* game.
A side note, Sonic named him ML *why?* What's wrong with _Emerl?_
Anyway, that's my first internet rant of my life, so yeah. Lol
I'm so happy you mentioned episode 14 that episode was so sweet and likeable and shows the absolute best side of Sonic in my opinion
I hate/love the fact that you remade the Sonic trailer with Sonic X
“Gamas death in the game was emotional” no kidding it was the only time I cried from a sonic game
It's even more depressing when you realize beta knew he had to shoot gamma before exploding to free him too
@@sethisevilone02 and then the sad music plays
13:35 WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO TAILS VEXTOR!?!?!?!?
You should have watched it in Japanese... There are entire scenes cut out. Seems kind of unfair to review it in English KNOWING about these differences but I won't go off about that anymore.
I have, its certainly better - reminds me somewhat of the difference between the english and japanese script in SA2. However, its still not a good anime. Plus it still has Chris Thorndyke. No way to fix that.
@@Ergeniz Ok that's fine. I don't consider it great myself , I just like when things are reviewed as honestly as possible. Sonic as a series especially could really use less misinformation going around :/
All that said I really liked the video, I hope they make another Sonic series similar to Sonic X one day just without some of its issues like shitty animation or Chris.
@@starstorm4077 I agree the uploader shoots himself in the foot by insisting on watching dubs. BTW, you can easily find subs of almost any anime free online if you know where to look, but I suspect he's one of those types that just can't bear to read subtitles.
when in doubt abandoned the dubbed version of the show in season 3 and just watch the sub in order to die mentally thanks to episode 25. Also let me talk about how dark episode 25 ended in japan. Instead of getting a happy outro song you'd get a sad song for a sad moment because the credits are basically cosmo gets killed, tails becomes sort of depressed, the end, although I still cried during the 4kids dub
This is so nostalgic! I watched sonic x on RUclips when I was younger, and I absolutely love it
"He sends Hot Topic into space"
Pfffffttttt 😂😂
(Also, the episode in season 3 with Molly was a very touching episode. Especially subbed)
11:47 that’s only for 4kids because there are a lot of if not so much good dubbed anime like dragon ball and full metal alchemist. Not to mention death note, black lagoon, and cowboy bebop. You should watch the ghost stories English dub
I love your use of the snapcube dub
The Japanese sub is genuinely good; I’d recommend giving that a watch instead!
Never get tired of Alfred, "I'm pissing on the moon you idiot!" 😂
I love all 3 seasons of Sonic X; it’s one of my favorite shows of all time. What really saves the show are the character development, and the story of all 3 seasons, even the first 2 seasons. It has some heart between one character and the other, and has good moral lessons in it. Chris doesn’t bother me that much because he sometimes helpful, but I could careless. I don’t like when he talks about Sonic not wanting him to leave Earth. I would rank Chris a 5/10. Everything else is great, and I would give this anime a 9/10.
Dang
U should re-watch the 1st 2 lol then say it again
Sonic X is my favorite Sonic show. Sonic Boom is funny, but I prefer the more serialized story of X better.
One of my biggest complaints about the show is how characters *never* stay on model. If you're looking for it, you realize just how much the characters proportions change in every shot. Sometimes Eggman's mustaches barely covers his face, and other times it's as wide as his shoulders. Knuckles' fists are either huge or strangely tiny. Amy's head seems inflated sometimes, and Tails' tails are either bigger than him or barely visible.
The show is good, but it has a lot of issues that could be considered deal breakers for other people.
I’ll just say my piece: I like the dub for this show a lot. The characters sound like how I think they would, and the scripts remain more or less the same as in Japanese. However, 4kids butchered the dialogue (and thus the context) so much that I much prefer listening in Japanese with subtitles because that actually conveys what’s going on.
That said, this was only really an issue in Season 3, where they basically shafted the Tails and Cosmo romance despite it being flat out stated in that one literal matchmaker episode.
Tl;dr, I like both sub and dub, and I have my reasons for each one.
I will watch the dub for S1 and S2 since Im kinda lazy to read everything and then sub for S3 since a lotta ppl say the S3 Sonic X dub sux
I thought the scripts were similar to how they were Japanese? Were they similar or different?
I watched both but it was so long ago I don’t remember the differences.
@@wannabehistorian371 In season 3, the scripts and censored scenes change a bit from the English version to the Japanese in some episodes, much more in the last 10-15 episodes. Dunno the other seasons, because I watched them all in English but then rewatched the last season in Japanese with eng subtitles, and the final ones were much better in Japanese.
So what I got from this was...
Season 1: Oops
Season 2: Sonic Adventure
Season 3: Mass Effect in reverse
Ironically, Chris actually dies at the end? I remember watching the Japanese version as a kid and that Eggman fucking kills Chris in the end of season 3 when he “Went home” the capsule explodes if I’m not wrong
Really? let me check.
If it's not, then I'll consider it my headcanon!
Eggman is doing the world a favour. Bless him
Holy shit, that's awesome if its true.
No it doesn't explode lmao we just see a last second clip of it zooming off in space (which 4kids censored out in the dub for god knows why)
Personally I love this show and don't care what other people say. Also, I love how this shows Sonic was like an antihero.
20:39 Eggman on full display showing everyone how hypocritical he is with that one line.
I remember watching this back in my teens. I may watch this series in it's entirety because I've only watched most of season 1, only bits of season 2 and rare episodes of season 3. It was made from a different time so it'll obviously have it's cheesy moments of screenplay, dialogue and overused cutscene gimmicks like how they do most of the one screen fight scenes like it's a slideshow. As long as it's appealing to me with comedy and emotion done right I'll give it a watch. You can't forget Eggman ways doing the noblewoman's laugh though every chance he got.
I have the feeling that the Helen Episode, is like everyones favourite.😂
true
"My boy, Shadow"
Ah, a man of culture, I see...
I love how this man uses terms from the snapcube fandubs
You lost me with "im going with the dub" at the start of the video. I really want to see a review from someone who sees the japanese version thoroughly, its so different i dont think falls into the "so bad its good" category
Agreed.
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I watched both the dub and sub and I agree. It's two different experiences. If the dub is so bad it's good then the sub is actually decent bordering good.
Give me about a month or two and I'll do it since no one else will!
Coming from someone who watched the sub, I agree. Everyone was just so much more interesting, especially the humans. Like how in the dub, Sam just goes by Sam Speed, but he gets a new name every time he shows up in the sub. It made me more excited to see the character. Plus, Mr. Tamara kicked butt in the sub. Even Chris gets character development in the third season. (Maybe this happened in the dub as well, but I only watched season 3 in sub.) Watching him be mature and actually useful made every time I had to see him mess everything up actually worthwhile. (Also I liked the relationship between Tanaka and Topaz more in the sub. It felt so sudden in the dub.)
Why everybody forget that Sonic franchise originally not on Earth(?) Even humans world is not Earth.
1:10 say does it look like billoite from the old godzilla films on the left side?