@@dissonanceparadiddle Even before she went vegetarian, Lisa was always the wisest, most compassionate and smartest person on the show. Quitting meat was only logical for her. The only thing that didn't make sense is that she settled for being vegetarian, when going vegan is the only ethical option for those who can do it. Hmm...maybe Apu was the wisest!
1:40 I want to notice that in several episodes Lisa is shown eating non-meat things such as mashed potatoes or spaghetti along with meat products on the same plate such as meatballs or steak or drumsticks, but she’s not shown eating the meat, but rather eating the non-meat food. The meat may be on her plate, but that doesn’t mean she has to eat it. On the other hand, Lisa also ate meat (specifically, chicken) in a Church’s Chicken ad from 1996. “Lisa the (Supposed) Vegetarian” came out in _1995._
Well, Marge doesn't like to change her cooking habits. There was an episode where Homer was away from home for a long time for some reason, and she still cooked the same amount of food as if he was there. Bart asks if she couldn't just make less food, and she says "I don't do things that way. You'll just have to learn to eat your father's share". (Edit: just noticed that the scene I'm talking about is shown at 1:54) So it would make sense that she would still serve Lisa the usual plate regardless if she eats everything on it.
What is the show is still on the air after Paul McCartney dies? Then what? And what if he gives up vegetarianism before that point? Would they still be beholden to the agreement from when he appeared on the show? That episode has Apu in it, so that’s also going to ricochet back in its direction like the bullet off his chest in the James Woods episode.
Fox/Disney/Whoever would argue that any of those things she was shown eating were not made of real meat, but were vegetarian substitutes like Beyond Meat™ or tofu or whatever.
I agree. Paul McCartney will see you in court, Groening! I think Matt Groening lied to Paul and Linda McCartney just so he can get them on his show. Paul said he would lend his voice on the show if they would keep Lisa a vegetarian for the entire series, not just one episode.
As a vegetarian myself I can tell you, it's not easy to become vegetarian, if people cook for you, especially your family. Most non-vegetarian people don't know, how to cook without meat. So we often go for the less "harmfull" choice in our eyes. Like when Lisa had the spaghetti with meatballs and sauce on her plate, we would eat the sauce and spaghetti, or you could starve yourself... Alot of household don't let their children to cook for themselves and not everyone is so well off to afford throwing out food.
Lisa's always been a "humanitarian" - but did you really think about what that meant??! And that wasn't really a cake! - Perhaps it was like a creamed hobo pie, getting creative in preparing cuisine. But how will they celebrate Arbor Day now??...
I find it quite hypocritical how Lisa was (temporarily) okay with eating arthropods (such as insects and arachnids) despite the fact that they are still animals. The worst part about this is that episode also has Lisa making an insect farm for the sole purpose of killing and eating them (which goes beyond just eating dead insects and arachnids). If Lisa only became a vegetarian just because she didn’t want to eat animals, why would she be perfectly fine with not only eating insects, but even directly farming and killing them?
Lunchlady Doris showed her how to work the system. Lisa: I promised Paul McCartney that I would never eat animals... Doris: So what, I promised Paul that I would never sleep with John.
1:47 I looked it up and even in production order that episode was produced after Lisa supposedly became a vegetarian. The production code of "Lisa the Vegetarian" is 3F03 and "Homer the Smithers" is 3F14. But like you said before, it's possible the team that worked on "Homer the Smithers" didn't know about "Lisa the Vegetarian" despite coming from the same season and production cycle.
How about a "what if" series? Theories about what could of been? Like what if Smithers shot Mr burns? Or what if Maggie could talk? Idk but I'm sure many of your followers would have numerous ideas with the subject. What do you think?
"meat juice" I have forgotten that detail and it makes sense of why Lisa would eat meat sometimes. sooo it's her own mother's fault. but than again the doctor told lisa the less meat she eats the less iron she has in her body. even animals in real life were smart enough to realize that. that's why every once in awhile plant eaters would eat bones and a few other things.
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in those episodes where she seemed to be eating the spaghetti and meatballs, the drumstick and the steak, she only seems to be eating the mashed potatoes and not the meat which in my theory means she just leaves the meat leftovers to her dad to eat
And she always holds a spoon to eat and not a fork because you can’t eat steak, spaghetti and meatballs or drumsticks with a spoon. so that could also mean that I’m right but I might not be
It all started in the sensory deprivation tank, when she saw Homer's four-meat sandwich (bacon, Canadian bacon, Mexican bacon, and a mouthwatering veal chop) through his eyes. After that she was hooked.
I did a experiment on myself with a all vegetable and fruit diet. No meat or carbs for five days. I was going insane especially with my job at a fast food restaurant. At least I lost five pounds in the process.
1:51 exhibit b can be explained. You said it yourself it was only 12 episodes after Lisa became vegetarian. It's 12 episodes after in Canon 12 episodes released after, However it's very possible that these episodes were meant to be released before she became vegetarian. When an animation releases a full season in the style that The Simpsons does where they are pretty much working on the whole season in advance and trying to get all episodes done, some episodes end up being released earlier or later than the order that they actually finished making the episodes. A prime example that actually a lot of Simpsons fans know of is season 1. Yes the first episode ever released was when they got Santa's Little helper, but it's been proven that the first episode that they ever finished was actually the one with the babysitter who was a criminal but instead that episode was like the 6th to be released or something.
Haha absolutely, i know different teams work on different episodes at the same time too, so it's possible the animators didn't know about the other episode currently being worked on.
@@soursimpsons 1:47 I looked it up and even in production order that episode was produced after Lisa supposedly became a vegetarian. The production code of "Lisa the Vegetarian" is 3F03 and "Homer the Smithers" is 3F14. But like you said before, it's possible the team that worked on "Homer the Smithers" didn't know about "Lisa the Vegetarian" despite coming from the same season and production cycle.
You know, I know what I said back when the channel changed formats… but I have to say, this was very entertaining. I'm glad this was somehow recommended to me.
I was working on something unrelated when a possible idea for another mystery popped into my head, I decided I would drop what I was doing and pose it to you for consideration: In an earlier episode ( might have been the one where Burns sells the plant to the Germans ) Lenny blows his stock earnings on plastic surgery and can be seen grinning from ear to ear due to the Botox and such. It fades to commercial break with Lenny lamenting "This is the worse day of my life" still grinning through the supposed Botox. In the very next scene that fades in from commercial, the usual crew is sitting around Moe's lamenting about how they can't be replaced due to the importance of their roles at the plant, and in this scene Lenny is back to his usual ( bearded ) and emotive self. A 1 off joke? Or was he faking getting the services performed? We see contradictory instances where Lenny is depicted in expensive suits, living in squalor ( please don't tell anyone how I live ) and being a loser barfly who also has on 1 account been shaving a woman's leg while on the phone with Homer. And for that matter, what's up with him and Carl, Carl having mentioned having a family once before? Either way, there seems to be an awful lot of buzz around Lenny...
5:39 is that book that Bart snatched the pages from with his friends Really the same book as Lisa's diary in the other scene before it when Bart is actually reading it?
As a Vegan, I love meat too, but left the addiction because I love animals more. Also, I also eat false- meatballs and peperoni because you can buy Vegan/vegeterian versions of them.
i want to bring to attention the episode where homer adopts a lobster. lisa states she's still a vegetarian, but she's completely okay with pinchy being cooked because she likes the smell. someone who really WAS vegetarian for the animals would've sided with homer!
I will also point out she hasn't totally divorced herself from many other things ultra strict vegetarians/vegans often do. She still seem okay wearing leather (her day to day shoes are plastic, but I assume the ones she wears with her sunday church clothes aren't, ditto a lot of the other pairs she has worn from time to time throughout the show. She still will eat conventional sugar (many vegetarians won't as it might be refined with bone charcoal.) It's no so different from the fact that, while she is a committed Buddhist now, she still consumes onions, garlic and other things really observant Buddhists won't.
@@soursimpsons It's called "The Doctrine of the Five Angry Vegetables.". Many Buddhists will also not eat mangoes, due to some incident where a village fought over the supply. Orthodox Buddhist cooking is sort of complicated. One tenet is that any food should be considered no better than any other food (usually as "The is no difference between a watery soup and a creamy soup.) Since Early Buddhist view on refraining from harming other living things extended to disturbing the soil, for a while they prohibited farming or using anything that would require farming. A lot of these laws have loosened up quite a bit (especially in places where Buddhism became the dominant religion, as strict observance basically would set communities up for inevitable starvation.), but, at times, they got a bit tricky.
B can be dismissed as Marge put it on her plate (because Marge is notoriously pushy on others if they don't abide by her religious, dietary or social beliefs) without actually eating it. C can be dismissed because GELATIN is notoriously from bones but vegetarian jello exists and jello style desserts can be made with agar agar.
sugestion: investigate Selmas lack of smell. she mentions it in the episode where she marries Selma and she can't smell the gas. im sure i see scenes where the twin sistrs complain about smell
I know this video is facetious and I want to let you know that I love this video and I appreciate the effort you put into it. You're awesome. (Also in the references when meat was on Lisa's plate, she never actually ate it.)
Most of the evidence shown shows her with meat on her plate but never directly eats it. Even the pizza slice earlier on only shows her eating the cheese part.
@2:04 - Good point. @2:42 - On the other hand... @5:48 - The people of Springfield don't really care about what Lisa was doing, they feel she's "cleaning up" the town. But, y'know, it is against the law, and we gotta take her in for this, we'd look bad if we didn't. @6:13 - Not surprising, either.
People love to hate on Lisa because of what she’s like in the later seasons, but she was so good in the earlier ones and it sucks that people forget that. The show needed a voice of reason that called out how ignorant the rest were, how people don’t listen to the informed and do what they want to do and believe what they want to believe, which is an important part of the satirization of society at the time. The show made strong points about environmentalism, veganism, feminism, faith and religion through her. She was a strong and consistent character that didn’t care about what others thought of her, she only cared about speaking her truth. This is a bit long, it’s just that I care because I looked up to Lisa so much as a kid and I believe much of my critical thought was influenced by the simpsons and especially her storylines.
What if both Homer AND Lisa are cannibalistic serial killers and the police believed it was just one single murderer because they both use the same method to get rid of the bones?
you can get mock meats I suspect it's lazy animators but with newer Eps of Lisa she is more sus about her values. Though by only season 10 she was seemed annoyed Homer didn't boil alive his pet Lobster because she "likes the smell" which is sus for somebody who thinks eating animals is wrong .
I can’t thank you enough 😂 ! I knew something was up with her being vegetarian 🥗 wasn’t right. Twelve episodes later she’s eating spaghetti and meatballs, then she’s eating a drumstick in another episode, and I lost it when you said just look at fat juicy steak 🥩. 😂 and yes , nobody can resist pepperoni pizza 🍕 😁 ! And like father, like daughter. Like homer can’t give up his drinking habits, I’m pretty sure Lisa can’t give up her meat 🥩 eating habits too . The poor mail box 📦 man 👨🏽 had me too . 😁😊❤️💕
I have one: an explination to the floating timeline, let's explore the fan theory of treehouse of horror 4, when homer traveled in time and this caused a simpson multiverse
I've seen a lot of shows where a family eats meat, but there's that one child that's is or becomes a vegetarian/vegan. But what do you do if it's the reverse? What if you're a family that's mostly vegetarian/vegan, but your child likes to eat meat and has no intentions of conforming? Just curious 🤔
@@soursimpsons Really Lisa didn't eat eggs like avians thanksgiving with tofu and some insects because still need 80% proteins because Lisa no longer iron blood cause be seizures
This is kind of irrelevant, but some vegans believe that eating mussels, clams, and oysters is acceptable; even though they are animals, their nervous systems are too primitive to facilitate anything like conscious thought, so they can't feel pain in any meaningful way.
Some "vegetarians" might (similarly with insects, remember that episode with Lunchlady Doris?), but "vegans" wouldn't eat anything that comes from or exploits animals.
@@matthewwelch4305 But if the argument against eating meat is that it causes pain and suffering, then an animal that is too simple to feel pain should slip through. After all, how is eating such an animal any morally different than eating a plant of fungus that is also too simple to feel pain in any meaningful way?
@@micahbush5397 Vegans also don't "exploit" or consume animals in any way. A vegetarian may eat honey, but vegans don't because that's keeping and exploiting bees. So eating (or wearing) any actual animal tissue would be right out for them. Wiser vegans point out that there's no way to completely avoid killing animals - eating only vegetable products when countless small animals are always killed when growing and harvesting crops, or even just when walking around. So their goal should be better stated as not "eliminating" all killing and exploitation of animals, but minimizing it by not taking actions that directly harm animals.
But the part where Bart shares a Diary with his friends isn't Lisa's, it's a diary he found in an abandoned psych ward/mental hospital but for the sake of entertainment I'll let it slide and pretend it's her's.
The book how to cook humans is actually from a episode with The aliens kong and the other one. She blows dust off the cover and they discover what is under the dust . The cook book is kongs.
Its obvious how she does it - she lures the homeless back to her room where she feeds them those green drinks from troll 2 that turn people into lisas favorite food - half man, half plant goo that she eats in secret The simpsons should never have taken that summer trip to nilbog
This explains so much like where Lisa gets her sadistic streak On another note I still have questions about the time Homer visited the steel mill and became traumatized by hotdogs
Brilliant work as always... but as for Exhibit C at 2:18, it gives me no pleasure to say... your DEDUCTION, was FAULTY! There exists a kind of algae from which a gelatin-like substance called agar-agar (or just agar in the West) can be produced, and which is predominantly used in South East Asia to make jelly and assorted gelatinous desserts. You might also be able to produce a jello with fruit pectin, but I don't know if that could create a product as stable as Ella Fitz-Jello. So Lisa probably used one of those to hide her cannibalism from prying eyes.
How dare you question Springfield's greatest detective?! 🤣🤣🤣 Lol of course you can explain it away, there's also fake meat, but where's the fun in that hahaha
@@soursimpsonsHaha I mean, a drumstick is pretty difficult and pointless to fake, I'd have thought. But honestly the reason I wrote the comment is that I'd just read another comment here, about someone who felt like they had seen the matrix because they had never realized gelatin is made from animals, and I felt bad for that person. Maybe all the jello they ate was alga-y and not carcass-y.
Gonna risk being piled on here, but I don't like pepperoni pizza. Like, it's...fine. But I would never, ever choose it. I'd always get something nicer, which is most pizzas.
Yeah I see your point, for example I like cheese pizza. I don't hate pepperoni, it's just that cheese pizza is the first that comes to mind when I order pizza
@@wilsonweiseng6485 Oh God, are pizzas in America that boring that pepperoni and margherita are your only options? So many wonderful combinations on offer, I'd never go for one of the "normal" ones.
@@MuchWhittering i mean i could, i tried once, but then the damn cashier asked me if i wanted pineapple... that is why i never picked anything beyond the normal ones
It was later revealed that Marge spikes Lisa's food with the juices from various meat products. Technically, not eating meat does not prohibit her from partaking in the numerous bounties of the sea, as those are fish and crustaceans.
technically, fish and crustaceans are meat/flesh. people choose to overlook this for various reasons, the two most common being 1) to obtain proper protein and 2) they have less or no objections (typically moral or environmental) to eating fish.
Counterpoint to Exhibit C, the Jello: You can make Jello with vegan alternatives to animal-based gelatin, such as cornstarch, agar agar, and xanthum gum... to name a few. You quite literally CAN have vegan Jello.
Blue Truth: It was never said or implied that it plant-based jello. While it can be argued that the real source of that jello in in limbo, her secretive meat-consumption points it to being meat-based. Also we have never seen her handling plants to process it. Based on the video alone, she is handling meat which can argued that some of it was made in jello!
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Simpsons fans:
Did you see that itchy and scracthy episode where itchy played scratchys ribscage like a xylophone and the sound was all off?!
@@soursimpsons boy, I hope someone got fired for that blunder
If he got fired, it probably wasn’t for that.
This was Not a accident...
Paul McCartney really should have sang a song for Lisa that would have prevented this video from ever happening
Paul: dont eat pork, not even with a fork... cant touch this!
@@nousukas U Can’t Touch This!
Paul McCartney ruined Lisa
@@dissonanceparadiddleyes he did
@@dissonanceparadiddle Even before she went vegetarian, Lisa was always the wisest, most compassionate and smartest person on the show. Quitting meat was only logical for her. The only thing that didn't make sense is that she settled for being vegetarian, when going vegan is the only ethical option for those who can do it. Hmm...maybe Apu was the wisest!
Well... this certainly casts Bart's "You ate meat, you ate meat!" taunt in a different light, and I love it.
Those who live with glass "hot dogs" shouldn't throw stones...
Haha i tried to use that clip too! But it didn't fit the narrative
Also, there's a scene where she was anxious for Homer to cook his pet lobster because she said and I quote:
"I just like the smell."
which is sus for somebody who thinks eating animals is wrong and that was an 90s ep (classic lisa)
"No, but I enjoy the smell."
@@aprioriontoast704 not to mention most of her campaign involves finger pointing and lecturing people about how awful they are for cooking animals.
Haha, she enjoys animal suffering but won't eat them... that's like hunting for sport
@@soursimpsons Like Elmer Fudd.
1:40 I want to notice that in several episodes Lisa is shown eating non-meat things such as mashed potatoes or spaghetti along with meat products on the same plate such as meatballs or steak or drumsticks, but she’s not shown eating the meat, but rather eating the non-meat food. The meat may be on her plate, but that doesn’t mean she has to eat it. On the other hand, Lisa also ate meat (specifically, chicken) in a Church’s Chicken ad from 1996. “Lisa the (Supposed) Vegetarian” came out in _1995._
Ooo, that's interesting, that chicken ad would've been great!
Well, Marge doesn't like to change her cooking habits. There was an episode where Homer was away from home for a long time for some reason, and she still cooked the same amount of food as if he was there. Bart asks if she couldn't just make less food, and she says "I don't do things that way. You'll just have to learn to eat your father's share". (Edit: just noticed that the scene I'm talking about is shown at 1:54)
So it would make sense that she would still serve Lisa the usual plate regardless if she eats everything on it.
It doesn’t count if it is church’s
What is the show is still on the air after Paul McCartney dies? Then what? And what if he gives up vegetarianism before that point? Would they still be beholden to the agreement from when he appeared on the show? That episode has Apu in it, so that’s also going to ricochet back in its direction like the bullet off his chest in the James Woods episode.
@@Attmay Paul McCarthy been dead for a while?
It was in plain sight.
Just ask Bart and his poor hot dog.
She sure likes hotdogs... and cake now too
Paul McCartney surely has grounds to sue the show for not keeping Lisa vegetarian.
Lol, i wonder what he thought of the bug eating episode
Thanks for proving Paul Joseph Watson right.
Fox/Disney/Whoever would argue that any of those things she was shown eating were not made of real meat, but were vegetarian substitutes like Beyond Meat™ or tofu or whatever.
I agree. Paul McCartney will see you in court, Groening!
I think Matt Groening lied to Paul and Linda McCartney just so he can get them on his show. Paul said he would lend his voice on the show if they would keep Lisa a vegetarian for the entire series, not just one episode.
@@carltheshivan Or McCartney signed up for a free trial of Disney+ and thus agreed to binding arbitration in any future dealings with Disney.
As a vegetarian myself I can tell you, it's not easy to become vegetarian, if people cook for you, especially your family. Most non-vegetarian people don't know, how to cook without meat. So we often go for the less "harmfull" choice in our eyes. Like when Lisa had the spaghetti with meatballs and sauce on her plate, we would eat the sauce and spaghetti, or you could starve yourself... Alot of household don't let their children to cook for themselves and not everyone is so well off to afford throwing out food.
I hear ya, I tested going vegetarian before and i found the hardest part was just knowing what to cook.
Try Indian food. it has many vegetarian options.
@@soursimpsonsthe hardest part is people, not food.
I couldn't quit meat I was craving it so bad to where it drove me crazy
@@Aquafan998 same, i couldnt stop eating my wife, she was hitting my nerves too much it drove me crazy
Same with the kids
Lisa's always been a "humanitarian" - but did you really think about what that meant??!
And that wasn't really a cake! - Perhaps it was like a creamed hobo pie, getting creative in preparing cuisine. But how will they celebrate Arbor Day now??...
Definitely not cake lol
Lisa starts with the best part...the neck!
I was always suspicious that Lisa was up to something bad, but I never thought she went this far. It's a good thing you cracked the case on this one!
Damn right, no more innocent vegetables will have to suffer because of her
@@soursimpsons *damned vegetables
I find it quite hypocritical how Lisa was (temporarily) okay with eating arthropods (such as insects and arachnids) despite the fact that they are still animals. The worst part about this is that episode also has Lisa making an insect farm for the sole purpose of killing and eating them (which goes beyond just eating dead insects and arachnids). If Lisa only became a vegetarian just because she didn’t want to eat animals, why would she be perfectly fine with not only eating insects, but even directly farming and killing them?
There was a joke in an episode where bart shot a sausage into lisas mouth, i thought that crossed a line
@@soursimpsons Sweet Home Alabama
Vegetarians eat fish 🤷
@@quit-rt4vzI thought that was a presbetarian.
Lunchlady Doris showed her how to work the system. Lisa: I promised Paul McCartney that I would never eat animals... Doris: So what, I promised Paul that I would never sleep with John.
Boy,I hope someone got fired for that blunder
You bet! Lol
1:47 I looked it up and even in production order that episode was produced after Lisa supposedly became a vegetarian. The production code of "Lisa the Vegetarian" is 3F03 and "Homer the Smithers" is 3F14. But like you said before, it's possible the team that worked on "Homer the Smithers" didn't know about "Lisa the Vegetarian" despite coming from the same season and production cycle.
Yeah haha, its quite interesting finding these minor blunders
How about a "what if" series? Theories about what could of been? Like what if Smithers shot Mr burns? Or what if Maggie could talk? Idk but I'm sure many of your followers would have numerous ideas with the subject. What do you think?
How would Maggie, a baby, be able to talk? By using some kind of a scifi machine?
@@patu8010 that's why it's called "WHAT IF" 🙄 and she has talked before.
That's interesting, but not sure how I'd make a video of it. Let me write it down, maybe some ideas will come to me in the future.
@@technerdgaming9259 I'm just making a joke because they have such a machine in one episode
@patu8010 oh my mistake 😅 damn I should have caught that
"meat juice" I have forgotten that detail and it makes sense of why Lisa would eat meat sometimes. sooo it's her own mother's fault. but than again the doctor told lisa the less meat she eats the less iron she has in her body. even animals in real life were smart enough to realize that. that's why every once in awhile plant eaters would eat bones and a few other things.
Indeed. Marge sabotaged her efforts all this time.
That's why she enjoys Bart's hotdog so much.
I like footlongs
@@soursimpsons So does Juicy Sommelier.
STOP IT, STOP IT, PLEASE I BEG YOU!!!
Bro called me dirty minded in 400 universal languages..💀
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A huge thank you for taking the time to create them!
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Did Apu learn her dark secret? Is that what really happened to him?
Oh jeez! It totally makes sense!
I thought Apu went into hiding after Sour Simpsons found out he killed his twin brother
"Dramatization. May not have happened." beautiful soundbite
Haha it works so well!
I'm always curious about the real location of Moe's. It was next to the church, next to the Simpsons house, and next to King Toot's Music Store.
Thats an interesting one, springfield changes quite a bit, I'll add it to the notebook
Hilarious! Such an awesome use of clips! I love it!
Thanks for watching!
in those episodes where she seemed to be eating the spaghetti and meatballs, the drumstick and the steak, she only seems to be eating the mashed potatoes and not the meat which in my theory means she just leaves the meat leftovers to her dad to eat
And she always holds a spoon to eat and not a fork because you can’t eat steak, spaghetti and meatballs or drumsticks with a spoon. so that could also mean that I’m right but I might not be
I hear what you're saying, but there's no reason to have meat on your plate, especially while having dinner at home.
I was waiting for the clip of Mr. Burns saying that gelatin is made from hooves.
Dang! Forgot about that one
@@soursimpsons Also "You won't eat our meat, but you'll glue with our feet"
0:51 Another classic Graggle episode! Wish we saw more of him in the new episodes :(
Yeah, they did him dirty cutting him out of the show!
It all started in the sensory deprivation tank, when she saw Homer's four-meat sandwich (bacon, Canadian bacon, Mexican bacon, and a mouthwatering veal chop) through his eyes. After that she was hooked.
That did look pretty good... lol
So ruining her dad's BBQ was all for nothing.... that poor pig. Legend says its still flying. 😂😂😂
Will you be donating that million dollars now sir?
@soursimpsons No I still prefer not...
I did a experiment on myself with a all vegetable and fruit diet. No meat or carbs for five days. I was going insane especially with my job at a fast food restaurant. At least I lost five pounds in the process.
I did that for a week too! I found the hardest part was just finding good recipes.
I'm glad you seemingly Mey your goal.
I would never do that, I'd always want to implement legumes, nuts, seeds etc...
1:51 exhibit b can be explained. You said it yourself it was only 12 episodes after Lisa became vegetarian. It's 12 episodes after in Canon 12 episodes released after, However it's very possible that these episodes were meant to be released before she became vegetarian. When an animation releases a full season in the style that The Simpsons does where they are pretty much working on the whole season in advance and trying to get all episodes done, some episodes end up being released earlier or later than the order that they actually finished making the episodes.
A prime example that actually a lot of Simpsons fans know of is season 1. Yes the first episode ever released was when they got Santa's Little helper, but it's been proven that the first episode that they ever finished was actually the one with the babysitter who was a criminal but instead that episode was like the 6th to be released or something.
Haha absolutely, i know different teams work on different episodes at the same time too, so it's possible the animators didn't know about the other episode currently being worked on.
@@soursimpsons 1:47 I looked it up and even in production order that episode was produced after Lisa supposedly became a vegetarian. The production code of "Lisa the Vegetarian" is 3F03 and "Homer the Smithers" is 3F14. But like you said before, it's possible the team that worked on "Homer the Smithers" didn't know about "Lisa the Vegetarian" despite coming from the same season and production cycle.
0:51 Graggle makes another cameo
😜👍
I haven't watched enough Simpsons to know the context, but there's something really sweet about Bart bribing Chief Wiggum to get Lisa a nice cell.
Haha, that's just a random joke, no real context behind that.
Also that Bart already knows where the nicer cells are! And that bribery works for Wiggum!
You know, I know what I said back when the channel changed formats… but I have to say, this was very entertaining. I'm glad this was somehow recommended to me.
Thanls for being on board! It'll only get better from here!
Keep up the good work!
Thanks for watching!
I guess lisa may not be as self righteous as she thought
Nobody could turn down bacon.
@@soursimpsons It's true, but it's one thing to always look down on others for eating it.
I was working on something unrelated when a possible idea for another mystery popped into my head, I decided I would drop what I was doing and pose it to you for consideration: In an earlier episode ( might have been the one where Burns sells the plant to the Germans ) Lenny blows his stock earnings on plastic surgery and can be seen grinning from ear to ear due to the Botox and such. It fades to commercial break with Lenny lamenting "This is the worse day of my life" still grinning through the supposed Botox. In the very next scene that fades in from commercial, the usual crew is sitting around Moe's lamenting about how they can't be replaced due to the importance of their roles at the plant, and in this scene Lenny is back to his usual ( bearded ) and emotive self. A 1 off joke? Or was he faking getting the services performed? We see contradictory instances where Lenny is depicted in expensive suits, living in squalor ( please don't tell anyone how I live ) and being a loser barfly who also has on 1 account been shaving a woman's leg while on the phone with Homer. And for that matter, what's up with him and Carl, Carl having mentioned having a family once before? Either way, there seems to be an awful lot of buzz around Lenny...
Haha interesting... a lenny centric mystery sounds like a great idea. I'll add it to the list
I wonder if she killed and ate Graggle.
Is that where he went?!
@@soursimpsons Couldn't you say there's a little bit of Graggle in all of us?
5:39 is that book that Bart snatched the pages from with his friends Really the same book as Lisa's diary in the other scene before it when Bart is actually reading it?
No haha, the second diary is the diary of a mental patient
As a Vegan, I love meat too, but left the addiction because I love animals more. Also, I also eat false- meatballs and peperoni because you can buy Vegan/vegeterian versions of them.
Those do sound tasty... i wouldnt mind trying them
As a non vegetarian I see her non vegetarian choices as a positive
I fully support her wish to eat humans
why? just because you eat meat doesn’t mean others have to
@@bl0odtea yes they do
0:49 is that graggle Simpson ?
You found him!
You don't win friends with Salad!
You don't win friends with Salad!
You don't win friends with Salad!
Mom!
This chananel is under rated, another great video.
Thank you! It's still young. Hope to build it up over the next few years
Agreed.
i want to bring to attention the episode where homer adopts a lobster. lisa states she's still a vegetarian, but she's completely okay with pinchy being cooked because she likes the smell. someone who really WAS vegetarian for the animals would've sided with homer!
Yes! Totally shouldve included that
I love your work. Excellent 😊
Thanks for watching!
I will also point out she hasn't totally divorced herself from many other things ultra strict vegetarians/vegans often do. She still seem okay wearing leather (her day to day shoes are plastic, but I assume the ones she wears with her sunday church clothes aren't, ditto a lot of the other pairs she has worn from time to time throughout the show. She still will eat conventional sugar (many vegetarians won't as it might be refined with bone charcoal.)
It's no so different from the fact that, while she is a committed Buddhist now, she still consumes onions, garlic and other things really observant Buddhists won't.
Did know know that about the buddhists. Learnt something new!
@@soursimpsons It's called "The Doctrine of the Five Angry Vegetables.". Many Buddhists will also not eat mangoes, due to some incident where a village fought over the supply.
Orthodox Buddhist cooking is sort of complicated. One tenet is that any food should be considered no better than any other food (usually as "The is no difference between a watery soup and a creamy soup.) Since Early Buddhist view on refraining from harming other living things extended to disturbing the soil, for a while they prohibited farming or using anything that would require farming. A lot of these laws have loosened up quite a bit (especially in places where Buddhism became the dominant religion, as strict observance basically would set communities up for inevitable starvation.), but, at times, they got a bit tricky.
B can be dismissed as Marge put it on her plate (because Marge is notoriously pushy on others if they don't abide by her religious, dietary or social beliefs) without actually eating it. C can be dismissed because GELATIN is notoriously from bones but vegetarian jello exists and jello style desserts can be made with agar agar.
Oh, I see! Then I guess everything's wrapped up in a neat little package!
How do you explain all of the new friends then>?!
What you’ve essentially done is recapped the French-Belgian horror film Raw and imposed the story beats of that film onto Lisa
Sounds like i have another movie to watch
1:32 Hello, Homer. My name’s Patback!
sugestion: investigate Selmas lack of smell. she mentions it in the episode where she marries Selma and she can't smell the gas. im sure i see scenes where the twin sistrs complain about smell
Oh interesting, I'll have to keep my eye open for them smelling things!
they both gasps for air one episode where Homer forced them to smell his armpits
Great video dude keep it up 🤘🏽💯
Thank you! A new video will be out on Friday
It could be worse. She could have become a me-gan like Homer. At least this way, she's turned her problem into a positive for the community.
Lol, there's a solution! Release the cannibals!
"We're only gonna focus on episodes after s7e5"
"Anyways here's an episode from 14 years later"
I know this video is facetious and I want to let you know that I love this video and I appreciate the effort you put into it. You're awesome. (Also in the references when meat was on Lisa's plate, she never actually ate it.)
Thanks, glad you enjyoed it!
Yoooo she pushed a vagebond under a trolley that explains a lot this theoroy actually seems plausible
There's no limit to her madness!
0:49 is that Graggle??!???!
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I can't believe it that lisa keeping her secret and lying to being vegetarian for her family, her brother, and her friends!
All vegetarians do!
Most of the evidence shown shows her with meat on her plate but never directly eats it. Even the pizza slice earlier on only shows her eating the cheese part.
What about the cannibalism? No issues with that? Lol
now that is one deep cut, I'm impressed.
Glad you enjoyed it!
@2:04 - Good point.
@2:42 - On the other hand...
@5:48 - The people of Springfield don't really care about what Lisa was doing, they feel she's "cleaning up" the town.
But, y'know, it is against the law, and we gotta take her in for this, we'd look bad if we didn't.
@6:13 - Not surprising, either.
Haha, yeah springfields stance on crime is pretty soft
Thank goodness, for a second I thought it was that dog with the shifty eyes, but it was Lisa all along
That dog is up to no good, i'll have to find out what
Don't forget those skeletons that have been seen in between the first and second floor of the house
Ooo thats interesting, i'll look into those
People love to hate on Lisa because of what she’s like in the later seasons, but she was so good in the earlier ones and it sucks that people forget that. The show needed a voice of reason that called out how ignorant the rest were, how people don’t listen to the informed and do what they want to do and believe what they want to believe, which is an important part of the satirization of society at the time. The show made strong points about environmentalism, veganism, feminism, faith and religion through her. She was a strong and consistent character that didn’t care about what others thought of her, she only cared about speaking her truth.
This is a bit long, it’s just that I care because I looked up to Lisa so much as a kid and I believe much of my critical thought was influenced by the simpsons and especially her storylines.
I hear ya. Definitely mistreated by the fans.
I agree
This honestly would be a great THOH short!
Glad you enjoyed it!
What if both Homer AND Lisa are cannibalistic serial killers and the police believed it was just one single murderer because they both use the same method to get rid of the bones?
Of course! All the signs are there!
The case of the two headed cannibal.
you can get mock meats I suspect it's lazy animators but with newer Eps of Lisa she is more sus about her values.
Though by only season 10 she was seemed annoyed Homer didn't boil alive his pet Lobster because she "likes the smell" which is sus for somebody who thinks eating animals is wrong .
Mock meats don't taste anything like the real thing, and I doubt Marge would buy them.
Haha yeah it can definitely be mock meat, but that seems like a lazy excuse.
4:03
Look, another bizarre Simpsons front-face for the next compilation.
Lol, lots more of that to come
A funny part about this is that I’m vegetarian. I have no idea about the Jell-O.
Yeah be careful!
Be careful, a lot of sweets have animal gelatine.
I can’t thank you enough 😂 ! I knew something was up with her being vegetarian 🥗 wasn’t right. Twelve episodes later she’s eating spaghetti and meatballs, then she’s eating a drumstick in another episode, and I lost it when you said just look at fat juicy steak 🥩. 😂 and yes , nobody can resist pepperoni pizza 🍕 😁 ! And like father, like daughter. Like homer can’t give up his drinking habits, I’m pretty sure Lisa can’t give up her meat 🥩 eating habits too . The poor mail box 📦 man 👨🏽 had me too . 😁😊❤️💕
Haha so glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for watching
@@soursimpsons your welcome , friend ! 😁😇😊❤️💕
I have one: an explination to the floating timeline, let's explore the fan theory of treehouse of horror 4, when homer traveled in time and this caused a simpson multiverse
Damn them time traveling toasters! They created alternate timelines!
I've seen a lot of shows where a family eats meat, but there's that one child that's is or becomes a vegetarian/vegan. But what do you do if it's the reverse? What if you're a family that's mostly vegetarian/vegan, but your child likes to eat meat and has no intentions of conforming? Just curious 🤔
I have friends who are vegetarians. They still cook meat for their kids and don't pressure them to be vegetarians.
She’s also seen eating chicken wings in an 1996 advert for Church’s Chicken (now known as Church’s Texas Chicken).
Haha I'll have to look that up. But i assume that was before she became a vegetarian.
Missing Lisa eat egg was cooking by Marge
(S12E16)
Some vegetarians eat eggs, different rules for different people. Like apu doesnt eat cheese.
@@soursimpsons Really Lisa didn't eat eggs like avians thanksgiving with tofu and some insects because still need 80% proteins because Lisa no longer iron blood cause be seizures
So what if she ate eggs? She's vegetarian not vegan.
People say it's just Storyboard inconsistencies, but theorists say otherwise.
I say it's a massive conspiracy!
0:50 hi Graggle
😉👍
0:54 episode name?
Well, Lisa Simpson did eat Bart's hot dog...
And Ned's footlong...
@@soursimpsons The evidence just keeps piling up against Lisa the Cannibal
I really hope they get a guest star whose requirement is she become a carnivore.
Lol that would be crazy!
This is kind of irrelevant, but some vegans believe that eating mussels, clams, and oysters is acceptable; even though they are animals, their nervous systems are too primitive to facilitate anything like conscious thought, so they can't feel pain in any meaningful way.
Some "vegetarians" might (similarly with insects, remember that episode with Lunchlady Doris?), but "vegans" wouldn't eat anything that comes from or exploits animals.
@@matthewwelch4305 But if the argument against eating meat is that it causes pain and suffering, then an animal that is too simple to feel pain should slip through. After all, how is eating such an animal any morally different than eating a plant of fungus that is also too simple to feel pain in any meaningful way?
There was actually an episode about that, except with bugs!
@@micahbush5397 Vegans also don't "exploit" or consume animals in any way. A vegetarian may eat honey, but vegans don't because that's keeping and exploiting bees. So eating (or wearing) any actual animal tissue would be right out for them.
Wiser vegans point out that there's no way to completely avoid killing animals - eating only vegetable products when countless small animals are always killed when growing and harvesting crops, or even just when walking around. So their goal should be better stated as not "eliminating" all killing and exploitation of animals, but minimizing it by not taking actions that directly harm animals.
Then technically they have to drink 100 percent purified water, so the poor microorganisms don't get swallowed
probably the animators forget about lisa
Everybody does 😅
But the part where Bart shares a Diary with his friends isn't Lisa's, it's a diary he found in an abandoned psych ward/mental hospital but for the sake of entertainment I'll let it slide and pretend it's her's.
Dramatization. May not have happened lol
Lisa is done, exposed
The truth is out there!
The book how to cook humans is actually from a episode with The aliens kong and the other one. She blows dust off the cover and they discover what is under the dust . The cook book is kongs.
Bingo!
Its obvious how she does it - she lures the homeless back to her room where she feeds them those green drinks from troll 2 that turn people into lisas favorite food - half man, half plant goo that she eats in secret
The simpsons should never have taken that summer trip to nilbog
Damn, that sounds horrific!
You could say there's a bit of "homeless person" in all of us, especially Lisa! *snicker* You could even say Lisa ate them vagabonds! *laugh*
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Remember the Halloween episode with the extra bart in the attic?
Bart's twin was never seen again
Lol thats a strange topic because it is non cannon
@@soursimpsons lol true 😅 idk why RUclips didn't notify me sooner
Wasn’t she seen eating meat too with the Halloween special with dr Hibert making folks into animals and notice the nerd is the bird.
But It's a Halloween episode. It's considered non-canon.
Thats interesting, i'll have to rewatch that episode
This explains so much like where Lisa gets her sadistic streak
On another note I still have questions about the time Homer visited the steel mill and became traumatized by hotdogs
Darn that gay steel mill!
@@soursimpsons still have some questions that haven't been answered
5:13 Noooo, not the Labor Day cake for Lenny!!!
Not Lenny's!... cake!
I think Lisa was a vegetarian because she was paranoid of food poisoning
Lol food poisoning is no laughing matter
It a shame that being vegan became half of her personality
Like real life vegans, you mean?
@na-ky8ou yes
It's true you don't make friends with salad, you got to have some meat.
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One can make friends with me with salad. :)
@@suklapaksa8643 It says "you don't make friendS with salad." We're allowed one.
Nobody: .................
Lisa: I'am Vegetarian!!!
I never knew!
Brilliant work as always... but as for Exhibit C at 2:18, it gives me no pleasure to say... your DEDUCTION, was FAULTY! There exists a kind of algae from which a gelatin-like substance called agar-agar (or just agar in the West) can be produced, and which is predominantly used in South East Asia to make jelly and assorted gelatinous desserts. You might also be able to produce a jello with fruit pectin, but I don't know if that could create a product as stable as Ella Fitz-Jello. So Lisa probably used one of those to hide her cannibalism from prying eyes.
How dare you question Springfield's greatest detective?! 🤣🤣🤣 Lol of course you can explain it away, there's also fake meat, but where's the fun in that hahaha
@@soursimpsonsHaha I mean, a drumstick is pretty difficult and pointless to fake, I'd have thought. But honestly the reason I wrote the comment is that I'd just read another comment here, about someone who felt like they had seen the matrix because they had never realized gelatin is made from animals, and I felt bad for that person. Maybe all the jello they ate was alga-y and not carcass-y.
Lisa is literally the old crazy lady vegeterian from tiktok.
Gonna risk being piled on here, but I don't like pepperoni pizza. Like, it's...fine. But I would never, ever choose it. I'd always get something nicer, which is most pizzas.
You've just made an enemy for life! Lol
Yeah I see your point, for example I like cheese pizza. I don't hate pepperoni, it's just that cheese pizza is the first that comes to mind when I order pizza
@@wilsonweiseng6485 Oh God, are pizzas in America that boring that pepperoni and margherita are your only options? So many wonderful combinations on offer, I'd never go for one of the "normal" ones.
@@MuchWhittering i mean i could, i tried once, but then the damn cashier asked me if i wanted pineapple... that is why i never picked anything beyond the normal ones
well like Pink Floyd said you can't have any pudding if you don't eat your meat
Mmmm... meat pudding
It was later revealed that Marge spikes Lisa's food with the juices from various meat products.
Technically, not eating meat does not prohibit her from partaking in the numerous bounties of the sea, as those are fish and crustaceans.
The word you're looking for is pescatarian
technically, fish and crustaceans are meat/flesh. people choose to overlook this for various reasons, the two most common being 1) to obtain proper protein and 2) they have less or no objections (typically moral or environmental) to eating fish.
My sister tried that in college, but still couldn’t resist the allure of discount chicken wings on Tuesday.
@@reggiefields6551Not if you are going by Catholic logic.
Dose this mean lisa will be in season 3 of yellowjackets as the izzard queen I hope soo
I need to watch that show lol
Finally, the streets of Springfield are safe again. No more cannibal lurking the night.
Yeah, but the homeless run the nights!
I never knew a Simpsons version of bikini bottom mysterys was what I needed
Haha yes!
Counterpoint to Exhibit C, the Jello:
You can make Jello with vegan alternatives to animal-based gelatin, such as cornstarch, agar agar, and xanthum gum... to name a few.
You quite literally CAN have vegan Jello.
Lisa did not specify, nice try
Blue Truth:
It was never said or implied that it plant-based jello. While it can be argued that the real source of that jello in in limbo, her secretive meat-consumption points it to being meat-based.
Also we have never seen her handling plants to process it. Based on the video alone, she is handling meat which can argued that some of it was made in jello!
But how do you explain all her new friends?!
She would watch that vegan teacher thats for sure
Vegans taste better 😅
@@soursimpsons they're grass fed