I did at most, but got over it and kept that to myself. When I left my home with my mom and family, my best friend since 5th grade barely talked with me. But nowadays, we chit chat after I returned several weeks ago.
having followed this series for over a decade now i would like to officially predict that the chandelier will have a personification in a remake of a sequel of a spin off that comes out in 2050
and to think, if satoko and rika could have just communicated with each other in a healthy way, this could have been avoided. if satoko didn’t have such horrible abandonment issues (which make sense because of her brother and uncle of course) then she could cope with she and her friend growing up and going on separate paths. they spent their whole lives together, but people grow and change and it’s perfectly reasonable that rika doesn’t want to spend the rest of her life in a place that holds so much pain, suffering, and trauma for her. but no, they don’t talk. rika never truly understands how satoko feels, and satoko makes too many assumptions about rika’s character to actually reach out. nobody’s “right” in this scenario, but i’m still not on team satoko. satoko needs to heal from her trauma and realize that rika is her own person and that it’s okay to let her go live her life. hell, satoko should make her own choices and live her own life, too.
that might be it but Rika should have never made the promise to start with too. she even forgot about that promise. So most likely what im saying here is that there at fault.
THANK YOU! People are like ‘Oh Rika broke her promise.’ No, she didn’t. From the jump Rika reached out. Multiple times! What is she supposed to do? Follow Satoko around and beg her to study? Is Rika the most kind hearted? No! But I feel like a lot of people defending Satoko’s actions are projecting themselves into the scenerio instead of seeing it for what it is. Never once did Rika TRULY brush her off or speak ill of her. I’d be more understanding if Satoko said ‘Rika I need you.’ or something during school. (Not that ‘read between the lines’ thing she pulled after trying to sabotage her friend.) No! What did she do instead? Glare at Rika outside the tea club and only truly confront her when she’s decided on death. That’s not normal nor justified in by means! Neither one is truly ‘at fault’ because it really just boils down to miscommunication, but people need to stop acting like Rika caused Satoko to murder her. Satoko has been had problems (that’s very understandable) and it’s not on Rika to be a crutch for it. Friend or not.
@@zairefiore2393 oh god let's get this clear. Rika made a promise with Satoko that 'they' will have a great time with each other but ended up having the complete opposite TWICE. Satoko studied hard to enter the school with Rika only to get backstabbed TWICE. Rika did try to approach Satoko a few times already but in public. If only they communicated better it would have never happened. You see here a promise you make with a friend or a family is something you shouldn't break. The tiniest promises can be forgotten but not this one. I'm not trying to defend Satokos actions here your just missing out somethings here. You see Rika just broke one little promise SHE made and Satoko just can't get over the fact that she did. Rika said that 'they' were going to have a great time. It's not like Satoko would just go approach Rikas gang and Interrupt them to remind her that she made a promise. That's kinda dumb and childish to be honest. What Satoko meant with her spying on her on a tea party. Is that she looks so much happier and seemed like she forgot the promise herself, making it looks like Rika made mockery of Satoko What people are really saying here that their BOTH at fault not just either one. (To be fair) You here your defending Rikas right to break a promise and leave her friend in the mud just to enjoy her new life. that's very selfish tbh.. Life may have choices but If you choose to make a promise with someone and it would be advisable to not break it. and that's based on real life friendships or whatever else. I'm just here for the both of them especially Satoko.
This time around Satoko did actually tell Rika how going to St. Lucia was not what she wanted for herself but Rika insisted on going together, this led to another five long years of studying and preparing just to end up with the same outcome. Had Rika just stopped insisting on Satoko going with her, maybe they could both have finally gone on different paths.
@@zairefiore2393 Offering to help someone study isn't friendship. If you don't see the fact that Rika very deliberately avoids Satoko and makes the bare minimum contact with her idk what to tell you. She literally doesn't even say hello to Satoko until Satoko confronts her lol
Analyzing this scene - Rika’s death could have been avoided. We see Satoko standing at the designated spot right under the chandelier. She knows it will drop, she will take her life right there. Then Rika steps forward to talk face to face. Not satisfied with her answer, Satoko hugs her instead of making her leave. Satoko has chosen her own fate already, she wanted Rika to witness her death but ended up taking her with her. Rika’s life could have been spared.
I would hardly call this a proper conversation, Rika was giving Satoko's some dusty answers and that's all. She didn't even say hello to Satoko until confronted. Besides, you could say that whole nekodamashi-hen could've been avoided. Everything could've been avoided if Rika was more mindful. It's insane to expect Satoko to remain sane after, well, losing her sanity.
@@brennaterwilliger4219 I don't care what she used to be like. She is responsible for her own actions. She is a murderer and a torturer. End of discussion.
1. Somebody has to make a meme about this chandelier 2. Satoko is a really promising GM probably not as good as Beatrice but still i am very impressed by her
She is not a Grand Master. She is a player, like Rika was. The Grand Master here is Featherine or Lambda(the Grand Master controls absolutely everything on the board. If Satoko were the Grand Master it would be easy to generate a piece Rika that would stay in Hinamizawa)
@@RaquelleDeVil Yeah. Read the visual novel. Sorry I put Grand Master. It's very late where I live and I can't sleep. Beatrice was the Game Master of Games 1-4. Lambda number 5, Battler number 6 and both Battler and Bernkastel at number 8.
Well this is how higurashi should be. I like Rika isn't an innocent girl like the early episode. Well done for making Satoko as a reasonable villain in the rest of anime. Ofcourse i hate St. Lucia just like Shion and Satoko as well. Better next time or maybe the ending is all about how Satoko kills Rika's new friends instead of the teacher then they will live alone in that school until Umineko starts as Lambdadelta and Bernkastel. Just saying. :V
@@trfandom250 Satoko just started looping. Her mind is fragile. Imagine living 3 entire lives and your best friend betrays you in every one. It's a normal reaction if your mentally weak. Same goes for Rika, she's died so many times it's hard not to be selfish.
@@kvdrr My superficial morality? You're apparently a-okay with murder, torture, and manipulation. Satoko made Satoko go insane. She's old enough now that she is responsible for her own actions. Rika endured a hundred years of this crap trying to find a way for her friends and whole village to not be destroyed. If Rika hadn't gone through all those loops trying to find a good ending, Satoko wouldn't even be alive to resent her now.
@@ElvenRaptor You're jumping to conclusions, judgment of Satoko's and Rika's actions is outside the scope of my argument. You're having trouble understanding casuality - Satoko didn't knew about Rika's baggage as a looper, so she can't be said to lack empathy (or expected to have gratitude) for Rika. When she did learn that Rika is a looper, it was too late as she just had went insane. There lots of extenuating circumstances explaining Satoko's seemingly disappropriate behavior - abandonment issues, unfortunate accident resulting in Satoko believing that Rika threw her under the bus, not knowing she's a looper and so forth. Moral ambiguity portrayed here is, ironically, perfectly clear to me.
How weird...looks like them broken chandelier parts when they scattered around look like Chess pieces....yes very sly indeed...The theme of chess is very prevalent in Umineko. Interesting.
@@nlechoppafanpage1251 You better be black bro or you're getting canceled hard style. We are going to make you a subhuman because you said a word in the RUclips comment section, better be black and I hope you voted Biden. Or else
One think I wanna know On this chapter (Satokowashi-hen), Rika doesn't go through loop anymore. Now Satoko get that power (or maybe it's curse, for me it's literally curse). They both die. I believe Satoko will go looping, will Rika do it too? Maybe we can discuss it here
I think that they both exist in the fragment world. When Rika chooses a fragment, Satoko follows after her. That's why, she is able to control the events behind the scenes. * Rena's Paranoia * Shion killing Rika first, protect Keichi and die together with Satoko * Giving level 5 syndrome to a lot of people on the uncle arc and mini routes
I think Satako has been manipulating Rika's loops throughout the entirety of the show, and we're only NOW getting the answer as to how she's been able to do it. Remember that Rika herself felt like somebody else was rolling the dice instead of her, now all of the previous episodes where Satako was being sus makes sense. Conveniently interrupting conversations Rika was having with other key characters, her face being hidden throughout some scenes where other characters faces are visible, and of course, the big one, her knowing about the K.O. trap that Rika made before she even revealed it. It's literally been Satako vs. Rika the entire time and Rika had no clue.
@@enterthekyuubi I doubt it. Satoko's definately the culprit of the GOU season, but all previous arcs it was Takano. Satoko only became a looper after Rika finished the 100 year game.
@@onlybb3286 Wow you were actually really close if not spot on, newest episode explained what's going on and all I can say is OMG IM SO GLAD THIS ISN'T JUST A REMAKE, lovin'the way things are going
To be fair after reading the VN and watching the anime, seeing Rika act like a boring snob does piss me off. Maybe not enough for me to drop a chandelier on her but I’m not Satoko. Miracles gang btfo I’m on team certainty now
Uhh, I saw a post about the blue haired girl saying “It’s nothing! Nipaaaaa” I thought this was gonna be a good and fun anime.... I think I’m glad I didn’t start episode one
A part of me wants to Photoshop the falling chandelier on Rika and Satoko with a Thwomp for some reason. Or edit it with a scene from Lethal Weapon 2...
In the case of the latter, Riggs would be limping towards the switch, and when Satoko snaps her fingers while hugging Rika, that's the signal for Riggs to press the switch causing the chandelier to drop on Satoko and Rika. I should call that video, "Satoko hires Martin Riggs to kill herself and Rika".
I kinda like how neither are completely blameless in this. Don't get me wrong, killing herself and Rika and starting another murder cycle, that's ALL on Satoko. Major bitch points for that. But disproportionate retribution aside, I do get where's she's coming from. She like, "I only came here because you asked me to. All our other friends fucked off and you're all I've got left, and now you're ditching me for these rich snobs?" But at the same time, I totally agree with Rika. She's like, "Dude, if I'm leaving you behind, it's because you're not moving forward. You CHOSE to come here! You refuse to accept that this isn't our hometown and things work differently here. You refuse to change your behavior and adapt to your situation."
It wasnt really satokos choice to go there tho...... She trusted rika in staying by her side because rika said she would and that she wouldnt leave her yet the same thing happened satoko points it out rika is able to adapt to where theyre at and she would be an outcast
Put it like this you wanna be by your friends side forever and dont want to lose them and you put all your effort into helping their dream come true just for them to kinda drop you off in the end like you didnt do anything
@@godlyghost4927 Trusting someone is not the same as them forcing you to do it. If someone lies to you that someone you know said something rude about you, and then you go and hit that person, that's YOUR fault, because even though you were lied to, you chose how you reacted to that lie.
@@godlyghost4927 As Rika said, she TRIED to reach out to Satoko, but Satoko point blank refused. Could she have tried harder? Absolutely. She played a role in her and Satoko's crumbling friendship, but Satoko is not innocent either.
@@godlyghost4927 It WAS Satoko's choice though? Rika only persuaded her because she doesn't know anything of what is going to happen in the future only Satoko does, she was thinking that Satoko was just scared of the future and yes she "failed" at keeping the promise but its still Satoko's fault for not moving forward or just saying "No".
Hmmm just wondering do the girls at lucia think satako killed rika or think it was a accident they all scream when rika dies but no concern for satako I know she wasn't well liked but I doubt people would wish that on satako wondering what people's thoughts are also I know it's intended only satako knows the truth about what happened
was it just me that was frustrated with how satoko and rika acted? like if satoko accepted rikas help and rika was more gentle w her words then this wouldnt have happened. atleast in my opinion
You know it really makes me wonder what Satako is going to do if she achieves her goal of trapping rika in hinamizawa. Because Rika 100% will find out its her. So their friendship will be destroyed. Or maybe satako plans on making scars so rika decides to stay without remembering it all? If i was her, my plan would be rather than go back in time right away to convince rika, make it so any time she leaves hinamizawa every new thing she makes, is ruined or dies. One by one to make others around her think she's cursed and thus maintain friends forever with out her knowing. But hey, you do you Satako.
Wonder how they did the "finger snap to trigger the mechanism" in the manga. I guess a very thin string could be used, still tho a snap and a chandelier gets released? Rly...
I think Satoko was just paranoid due to the dormant hinamizawa syndrome which caused her to become a bitch and perceive Rika as leaving her behind when in reality Rika wasn't.
Because of small Mistakes Satoko go a bit...Aghr...Yandere...in my opinion...Very bad turn...,That why i think this never happened if the both of them talk about there own problems....,but is better to hate then talk...
I’d agree with satoko even though I know it’s wrong I feel that when my past best friend went to hang out with some other people I would’ve done the same if if not for the fact that I have no reset
@@ericluo520 You'd spend weeks, months, years, abusing time travel powers to murder and torture people? Wow, you're officially the worst people I've ever spoken to.
We have to keep in mind Satoko is a psychologically broken person. She was abused, rejected by her village, lost her family, and now her best friend rejects her. The dreadful feelings of void inside her must be atrocious
It's a bit deeper than that lol. You can't just tell someone with mental issues, who was a victim of abuse, and has dependency issues to "grow up". The problem from the start is that Satoko isn't a regular healthy individual
@@trfandom250 Considering she pressured Satoko to come with her and went so hard promising she would be there for her, I disagree. She does owe Satoko something lol. It's one thing if Satoko just choose to randomly go to that school, bur she only went because Rika kinda forced her to and made a bunch of promises she didn't keep.
she was coerced by someone who has years of experience on her, and is in a very important place in her heart, to that girl rika is her rock, the one who protected her when in hinamisawa, but lets remember, that that the cat is not above any sort of tricary, she knows how important she is to that mind broken blonde brat, and think she is just making a scene, but her own wishes should be respected, she had a happy timeline, one were she did not needed rika, in that timeline, rika killed her own mom just to have her happy hinamisawa life as she desired, now that she is against another looper she is just getting a taste of her own medicine, both witches are crazy, but i realy like both, i dont think that neither is rigth
@@brenokv Rika did everything she could to break the cycle. She didn't kill her mother because she wanted to, she killed her to spare her the same pain she suffered, and because it meant that the disease wasn't eradicated like in the good timeline. If not for Rika, everyone in Hinamizawa would have died one way or another. She didn't coerce anyone, she saved them. She's suffered greatly to save Hinamizawa and the people in it, and now that she's free she just wants to move on and live a normal life. Satoko is just being petty.
@@kirikakirikakirika i do not belive rika is evil, but in that whole looping malarki there are a lot of possibilities, while trying to make my point i did over vilefied rika but intend this as a joke, but still to me, she should at least had the tact to know her friend would need more of a support group than a acasional talk with her, rika fougth the cycle and as i see it she is correct in allmost all of it, but in all the worlds she knows how much she means to that lil blonde psycho, satoko went berserk because she could not break her friend resolve, rika however, can easely make a non looper satoko do as she wishes, just by being the miko that protected her in childhood, and while i recognise this as only a theory of mine, i do mantain that rika has a need for satoko, and sees her as a mixture of possible future lover ,and actual daugther stand in, lets remember that rika is a wise old bat, that was forced to grow callous and manipulative to win the game, also, she looped enougth to know what a psychotic break looks like even without hinamisawa syndrome, the whole "choose, me or the school" at least as i understand it ,is not "there is only a real choice ,me, and if ya choose those stuck up princecess i Will go yandere", but more of a "listen bich ya not the only one with resolve, and i will not be your plaything" i dont think satoko will do this, but i belive, if she let the ciclo go and just held still in hinamisawa, her friend would came looking for her, maybe even a lil bit pissed that she has does not have that lil girl who idolises her anymore, my whole outlook is this witches are biches and those two , are just it ,witches, they been broken enougth to accept that are incontable worlds, many of those not pretty, but tham they will go trogth a lot to have their own happy end, and i dont think rika will be fully satisfied abandoning hinamisawa, and not having satoko, but hey i migth be wrong, it is still fun to theorize and analise those two
You mean the first one?, or the next one?, or the next next one? Or the next next next one?, or the next next next next one?, or the next next next next next one?.
Both are in fault but still satoko's action is not right I don't sympathy satoko because satoko just doing those for her own will and it's selfish. Also I don't think it's hinamizawa syndrome that caused her to become insane (School Timeline) and somehow she can still managed to control syndrome (timeloop timeline) as you can see when satoko dismembovel rika during ep 16 even though she get into L5 and she still have self conscious .
i see a lot of things about the chair, betrail and such, i did not watched yet this season, but dident rika basicaly adopt satoko, even if she is bing a lil bit of a bitch, oyr lil trap master is realy forgetting everything that drunken loli baba did for her
Cause Rika is one of the heads of her village. She has pedigree. She is smart, she is soft talking, she is polite, and she is nice to everyone. She is the perfect lady that fit into the image of the school. Why do the girls DISLIKE Satoko? She's obnoxious, attacking them, insulting them, making fun of them, refusing to spend them with them. Satoko: Why am I alone?
Satoko and Rika were best friends ever since season 1. (Except for the 'Perfect World' in the Rei OVAs) and Satoko did learn a lot just to get accepted into Rika's dream school just so they can hang out together.
That world where Satoko bullies Rika is from a different world where no tragedy took place so it's not the same Satoko as this one. The Rika and Satoko here has been best friends since childhood.
Not only that, but Rika ignored Satoko for her new friends. Though, as stated here, Rika did make an attempt to help Satoko study that Satoko refused, so they’re both at fault.
@@SheWhoLikesAnime24 Thank you for the explanation! I still find it a bit extreme (because they both end up dying here), but I do comprehend the importance of the theme friendship in Higurashi, so I can see why Sakato took it to an extreme. Again, thank you!
@@manuelalbertoromero9528 well it was showing how stressed Satoko was and St.Lucia proves that you can never put a person from Himinizawa in that school for they will commit funny but deadly heinous crimes
@@latiaos11 Irie also said that even if she recovers from the syndrome, her brain is still conditioned to act in extreme ways. Just because she’s ‘cured’ doesn’t mean the syndrome doesn’t still have some kind of effect on her.
You guys remember when this was just a boy moving to a scary village?
Kinda forgot
who?
@@Nuclearburrit0 keiichi bro
@@ryry5663 never heard of him. Apparently the artists don't like drawing men
@@Nuclearburrit0
What are you talking about?
Keiichi was the main protagonist of season 1.
I think we've all been in satokos shoes at one point
Not the killing your friend part! but the feeling of being left behind by a friend
@Cryptic GothGeek im sorry :(
Yup!
Agree
I did at most, but got over it and kept that to myself. When I left my home with my mom and family, my best friend since 5th grade barely talked with me. But nowadays, we chit chat after I returned several weeks ago.
I've been in both of their positions.
This is payback for the chair, Rika!
I laughed way harder than I should have on this comment 💀💀💀
You nailed it with this comment bro
I thought the ritual disembowelment was payback for the chair.
@@VanguardSupreme payback paid in double
Wait, I forget, when did the chair happen?
Emiya Shirou:"people die when they are killed"
Satoko Houjo:"people die when they lie"
Yeah I mean. Look at what happened with Obi Wan and you.
They say that being an Emiya is suffering but Rika suffers much more than they do.
A trap master with the intend to kill
Inside Satoko's subconscious mind : ''That's for the painful chair''
Facts
that could ACTUALLY be canon
Satokos biggest enemy: THE CHAIR
Rikas biggest enemy: THE CHANDELIER
I swear to god, everyone in Gou has a higher blood volume than the average human being.
There are two people crushed, what did you expect?
Imagine liking anime 😂😂😂
@@nlechoppafanpage1251 imagine liking the boring news
@@dubby1567 wannabe Japanese Chinese girl
@@nlechoppafanpage1251 you call me a girl- 💀 you can tell im a boy in my user
Honestly, those girls that Rika hangs out with deserve a chair.
Damn their so annoying lol (moms acc oof)
having followed this series for over a decade now i would like to officially predict that the chandelier will have a personification in a remake of a sequel of a spin off that comes out in 2050
What!!!???
2050??!!!!
Chande-Beatrice
Nobody cares 😂😂😂
luck of satoko not having chairs around
3:25 Chandelier-kun sends his regards
A great pog day
I get this refrence
I hate to say this, because Rika is one of my favorite characters in this series, but...
This death was sooooo satisfying.
same
Same. I love her to death but she was fake💀
Edit: BRUH, Satoko girl, WTF🗿? That is so fucked up
I have to agree with you.
It's so dramatic and over the top, appropriate for a very theatrical episode, I loved it
Satoko is just showing “No Mercy!” (Reference to Cobra Kai)
Stfu and check my channel
@@nlechoppafanpage1251 No thank you but thank you for the offer.
Lol
@@grimpetals puzzy im hacking u
Even Darth Sidius say to Darth maul ( there is no mercy!)
Goddamn, Bernkastel!
Chandelier-kun said hi
chair has evolved.
Rika beats satoko with chair
Satoko kills rika with chandelier it's like rock paper scissors lol
@@bmccorrales well at least it was a quick death compared to when Satoko literally guts Rika alive while she was fully awake...
@@blckorb6322 and now we kinda know why she rip her guts still lil extra but it's higurashi not surprised anymore
Stairs-kun and Broken violin-chan approve
I like Satoko's green aura, lol. Now, its payback time!
Satoko is a on new whole level of Yandere
I was honestly expecting her to snap Rika's neck or something with that hug. But nevermind. 😧😵
I was actually expecting her to stab Rika like School Days style lol
@@crazy_pink_haired_bitch The suspense was getting to me and it was my first thought lol
Be quiet you always talking
@@nlechoppafanpage1251be quiet who asked you to speak🤨
and to think, if satoko and rika could have just communicated with each other in a healthy way, this could have been avoided. if satoko didn’t have such horrible abandonment issues (which make sense because of her brother and uncle of course) then she could cope with she and her friend growing up and going on separate paths. they spent their whole lives together, but people grow and change and it’s perfectly reasonable that rika doesn’t want to spend the rest of her life in a place that holds so much pain, suffering, and trauma for her. but no, they don’t talk. rika never truly understands how satoko feels, and satoko makes too many assumptions about rika’s character to actually reach out. nobody’s “right” in this scenario, but i’m still not on team satoko. satoko needs to heal from her trauma and realize that rika is her own person and that it’s okay to let her go live her life. hell, satoko should make her own choices and live her own life, too.
that might be it but Rika should have never made the promise to start with too.
she even forgot about that promise. So most likely what im saying here is that there at fault.
THANK YOU! People are like ‘Oh Rika broke her promise.’ No, she didn’t. From the jump Rika reached out. Multiple times! What is she supposed to do? Follow Satoko around and beg her to study? Is Rika the most kind hearted? No! But I feel like a lot of people defending Satoko’s actions are projecting themselves into the scenerio instead of seeing it for what it is. Never once did Rika TRULY brush her off or speak ill of her. I’d be more understanding if Satoko said ‘Rika I need you.’ or something during school. (Not that ‘read between the lines’ thing she pulled after trying to sabotage her friend.) No! What did she do instead? Glare at Rika outside the tea club and only truly confront her when she’s decided on death. That’s not normal nor justified in by means! Neither one is truly ‘at fault’ because it really just boils down to miscommunication, but people need to stop acting like Rika caused Satoko to murder her. Satoko has been had problems (that’s very understandable) and it’s not on Rika to be a crutch for it. Friend or not.
@@zairefiore2393 oh god let's get this clear.
Rika made a promise with Satoko that 'they' will have a great time with each other but ended up having the complete opposite TWICE.
Satoko studied hard to enter the school with Rika only to get backstabbed TWICE.
Rika did try to approach Satoko a few times already but in public.
If only they communicated better it would have never happened.
You see here a promise you make with a friend or a family is something you shouldn't break.
The tiniest promises can be forgotten but not this one.
I'm not trying to defend Satokos actions here your just missing out somethings here.
You see Rika just broke one little promise SHE made and Satoko just can't get over the fact that she did.
Rika said that 'they' were going to have a great time.
It's not like Satoko would just go approach Rikas gang and Interrupt them to remind her that she made a promise. That's kinda dumb and childish to be honest.
What Satoko meant with her spying on her on a tea party.
Is that she looks so much happier and seemed like she forgot the promise herself, making it looks like Rika made mockery of Satoko
What people are really saying here that their BOTH at fault not just either one. (To be fair)
You here your defending Rikas right to break a promise and leave her friend in the mud just to enjoy her new life. that's very selfish tbh.. Life may have choices but If you choose to make a promise with someone and it would be advisable to not break it. and that's based on real life friendships or whatever else.
I'm just here for the both of them especially Satoko.
This time around Satoko did actually tell Rika how going to St. Lucia was not what she wanted for herself but Rika insisted on going together, this led to another five long years of studying and preparing just to end up with the same outcome. Had Rika just stopped insisting on Satoko going with her, maybe they could both have finally gone on different paths.
@@zairefiore2393 Offering to help someone study isn't friendship. If you don't see the fact that Rika very deliberately avoids Satoko and makes the bare minimum contact with her idk what to tell you. She literally doesn't even say hello to Satoko until Satoko confronts her lol
And that, friends, is why we talk about our problems.
Analyzing this scene - Rika’s death could have been avoided. We see Satoko standing at the designated spot right under the chandelier. She knows it will drop, she will take her life right there. Then Rika steps forward to talk face to face. Not satisfied with her answer, Satoko hugs her instead of making her leave. Satoko has chosen her own fate already, she wanted Rika to witness her death but ended up taking her with her. Rika’s life could have been spared.
She wanted to kill Rika to make sure that she will never accomplish her dream in this timeline
I would hardly call this a proper conversation, Rika was giving Satoko's some dusty answers and that's all. She didn't even say hello to Satoko until confronted. Besides, you could say that whole nekodamashi-hen could've been avoided. Everything could've been avoided if Rika was more mindful. It's insane to expect Satoko to remain sane after, well, losing her sanity.
@@kvdrr i honestly didnt notice that part
@@kvdrr I think rika put healthy boundaries in the friendship it was satokos part to actually talk with her
@@mehmetalireyhan8436 "healthy"
The chandelier was the true mastermind the entire time!
Ill never forget the.... Gut episode.
yeah….
I watched that part at night uncencored and i cant sleep. Thats why i dont watch higurashi at night anymore
What satoko's last words were ment to be "NO MERCY RIKA!"
we're entering madoka territory with this shit and honestly? i kinda love it
Looks like Rika and Satoko will have to fix they're Shattered friendship in the next time line...ha ha get it?
I don't see how they can repair their friendship once all is said and done.
@@ElvenRaptor I mean to be fair both of them made mistakes for this to happen but I feel more bad for Satoko
@@brennaterwilliger4219 SHe's a murderer and a torturer at this point. She lost any rights to sympathy the instant she became those things.
@@ElvenRaptor Satoko wasn't always this way, she used to be a innocent child but in the end she became victim to the curse and circumstances overall.
@@brennaterwilliger4219 I don't care what she used to be like. She is responsible for her own actions. She is a murderer and a torturer. End of discussion.
1:06 The moment the camera focused on the chandelier, I knew it was gonna be a chekhov's gun moment.
1. Somebody has to make a meme about this chandelier
2. Satoko is a really promising GM probably not as good as Beatrice but still i am very impressed by her
She is not a Grand Master. She is a player, like Rika was. The Grand Master here is Featherine or Lambda(the Grand Master controls absolutely everything on the board. If Satoko were the Grand Master it would be easy to generate a piece Rika that would stay in Hinamizawa)
Rika and satoko are the players in the series and it's going to be effing epic
@@juanlaise1059 *Game Master
Have u read Umineko?
@@RaquelleDeVil
Yeah. Read the visual novel.
Sorry I put Grand Master. It's very late where I live and I can't sleep.
Beatrice was the Game Master of Games 1-4. Lambda number 5, Battler number 6 and both Battler and Bernkastel at number 8.
@@juanlaise1059 Featherine has no control over the game board tho. As always, she only is a spectator bcs she wants to be entertained.
It’s really complicated because they’re both have their own perspective
Well this is how higurashi should be. I like Rika isn't an innocent girl like the early episode. Well done for making Satoko as a reasonable villain in the rest of anime.
Ofcourse i hate St. Lucia just like Shion and Satoko as well. Better next time or maybe the ending is all about how Satoko kills Rika's new friends instead of the teacher then they will live alone in that school until Umineko starts as Lambdadelta and Bernkastel. Just saying. :V
@@trfandom250 Satoko just started looping. Her mind is fragile. Imagine living 3 entire lives and your best friend betrays you in every one. It's a normal reaction if your mentally weak. Same goes for Rika, she's died so many times it's hard not to be selfish.
Murder in the house
@@anomalous34 and so did the rest of her friends in loops they won't remember well
I love that this comes up when looking for the chair scene.
Good tidings to you, chandelier-kun
Then satoko becomes the witch of certaintly
I really feel for Satoko in this one. But for Rika wanting more shouldn't be a bad thing...
I stop feeling for people once they commit murder, and especially after they start abusing time travel powers to torture someone else.
@@ElvenRaptor Oh really? Let me remind you that it was Rika who caused Satoko to go insane, your superficial morality got it backwards, I guess.
@@kvdrr My superficial morality? You're apparently a-okay with murder, torture, and manipulation.
Satoko made Satoko go insane. She's old enough now that she is responsible for her own actions. Rika endured a hundred years of this crap trying to find a way for her friends and whole village to not be destroyed. If Rika hadn't gone through all those loops trying to find a good ending, Satoko wouldn't even be alive to resent her now.
@@ElvenRaptor You're jumping to conclusions, judgment of Satoko's and Rika's actions is outside the scope of my argument. You're having trouble understanding casuality - Satoko didn't knew about Rika's baggage as a looper, so she can't be said to lack empathy (or expected to have gratitude) for Rika. When she did learn that Rika is a looper, it was too late as she just had went insane. There lots of extenuating circumstances explaining Satoko's seemingly disappropriate behavior - abandonment issues, unfortunate accident resulting in Satoko believing that Rika threw her under the bus, not knowing she's a looper and so forth. Moral ambiguity portrayed here is, ironically, perfectly clear to me.
@@kvdrr The only thing I see here is someone who is totally okay with murder as a means to an end.
Witch of certainty has emerged ☺️
0:23 *I believed what you said,* YET THIS IS HOW YOU TREAT ME?!
Might be my all time favorite anime scene
How weird...looks like them broken chandelier parts when they scattered around look like Chess pieces....yes very sly indeed...The theme of chess is very prevalent in Umineko. Interesting.
hold your breath satoko we might get a chair scene in sotsu!
Guys guys, she just wanna die together with Rika like Romeo and Juliet
Nobody cares
Why did you comment then? Pfffffft lmao what a joke
@@poppy4207 i didn't ask nigga
Oh no a racist and an attention seeker, I feel pity
@@nlechoppafanpage1251 You better be black bro or you're getting canceled hard style. We are going to make you a subhuman because you said a word in the RUclips comment section, better be black and I hope you voted Biden. Or else
These will be the longest 3 months of my life, I can feel it
Me too
Rika has gotten her karma for attacking satoko
One think I wanna know
On this chapter (Satokowashi-hen), Rika doesn't go through loop anymore.
Now Satoko get that power (or maybe it's curse, for me it's literally curse).
They both die. I believe Satoko will go looping, will Rika do it too?
Maybe we can discuss it here
I think that they both exist in the fragment world. When Rika chooses a fragment, Satoko follows after her.
That's why, she is able to control the events behind the scenes.
* Rena's Paranoia
* Shion killing Rika first, protect Keichi and die together with Satoko
* Giving level 5 syndrome to a lot of people on the uncle arc and mini routes
@@onlybb3286 Shion ? It’s MION bro don’t be wrong
I think Satako has been manipulating Rika's loops throughout the entirety of the show, and we're only NOW getting the answer as to how she's been able to do it. Remember that Rika herself felt like somebody else was rolling the dice instead of her, now all of the previous episodes where Satako was being sus makes sense. Conveniently interrupting conversations Rika was having with other key characters, her face being hidden throughout some scenes where other characters faces are visible, and of course, the big one, her knowing about the K.O. trap that Rika made before she even revealed it. It's literally been Satako vs. Rika the entire time and Rika had no clue.
@@enterthekyuubi
I doubt it.
Satoko's definately the culprit of the GOU season, but all previous arcs it was Takano.
Satoko only became a looper after Rika finished the 100 year game.
@@onlybb3286 Wow you were actually really close if not spot on, newest episode explained what's going on and all I can say is OMG IM SO GLAD THIS ISN'T JUST A REMAKE, lovin'the way things are going
To be fair after reading the VN and watching the anime, seeing Rika act like a boring snob does piss me off. Maybe not enough for me to drop a chandelier on her but I’m not Satoko. Miracles gang btfo I’m on team certainty now
*Ｇｏｌｄｆｉｓｈ*
*ｔｕｒｄｓ*
Anyone else curious to what an English dub would be like
Uhh, I saw a post about the blue haired girl saying “It’s nothing! Nipaaaaa” I thought this was gonna be a good and fun anime.... I think I’m glad I didn’t start episode one
A part of me wants to Photoshop the falling chandelier on Rika and Satoko with a Thwomp for some reason. Or edit it with a scene from Lethal Weapon 2...
In the case of the latter, Riggs would be limping towards the switch, and when Satoko snaps her fingers while hugging Rika, that's the signal for Riggs to press the switch causing the chandelier to drop on Satoko and Rika. I should call that video, "Satoko hires Martin Riggs to kill herself and Rika".
3:29 when Rika dies
Friendship ended with truck-kun now chandelier-chan is my best friend
Sia Chandelier plays
I kinda like how neither are completely blameless in this. Don't get me wrong, killing herself and Rika and starting another murder cycle, that's ALL on Satoko. Major bitch points for that. But disproportionate retribution aside, I do get where's she's coming from. She like, "I only came here because you asked me to. All our other friends fucked off and you're all I've got left, and now you're ditching me for these rich snobs?"
But at the same time, I totally agree with Rika. She's like, "Dude, if I'm leaving you behind, it's because you're not moving forward. You CHOSE to come here! You refuse to accept that this isn't our hometown and things work differently here. You refuse to change your behavior and adapt to your situation."
It wasnt really satokos choice to go there tho...... She trusted rika in staying by her side because rika said she would and that she wouldnt leave her yet the same thing happened satoko points it out rika is able to adapt to where theyre at and she would be an outcast
Put it like this you wanna be by your friends side forever and dont want to lose them and you put all your effort into helping their dream come true just for them to kinda drop you off in the end like you didnt do anything
@@godlyghost4927 Trusting someone is not the same as them forcing you to do it. If someone lies to you that someone you know said something rude about you, and then you go and hit that person, that's YOUR fault, because even though you were lied to, you chose how you reacted to that lie.
@@godlyghost4927 As Rika said, she TRIED to reach out to Satoko, but Satoko point blank refused. Could she have tried harder? Absolutely. She played a role in her and Satoko's crumbling friendship, but Satoko is not innocent either.
@@godlyghost4927 It WAS Satoko's choice though? Rika only persuaded her because she doesn't know anything of what is going to happen in the future only Satoko does, she was thinking that Satoko was just scared of the future and yes she "failed" at keeping the promise but its still Satoko's fault for not moving forward or just saying "No".
the chandelier was a furniture!
Hmmm just wondering do the girls at lucia think satako killed rika or think it was a accident they all scream when rika dies but no concern for satako I know she wasn't well liked but I doubt people would wish that on satako wondering what people's thoughts are also I know it's intended only satako knows the truth about what happened
Yes , they think satoko kill rika because rika tell them about how good satoko trap are
was it just me that was frustrated with how satoko and rika acted? like if satoko accepted rikas help and rika was more gentle w her words then this wouldnt have happened. atleast in my opinion
They care about rika then satoko
the fact that she knew rika has been suffering for a hundred years to get what she wants and still did this shit… can’t you both just be happy-
She only learned that after multiple failed loops, but yeah, still a bitch move on her part for taking such an extreme approach.
The only thing I do not like about the scene is that there is no cicada sounds
This show is scary man
they really let Satoko's bubbly persona go from the original anime
Satoko pissed! 🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶
Props for the thumbnail
x3
The VA really nailed it too, incredible performance.
I don't blame her
satoko is a great character and a great villain
Hey so I haven’t watched the anime yet, but is it that every time they die, they meet again in another world?
Yeah pretty much
That's fucking Metal holy shit
Someone pls tell me where can uwatch this. I JAVE bren trying for DAYS i literally finished the whole series and it is telling me it has MORE???🤨
You know it really makes me wonder what Satako is going to do if she achieves her goal of trapping rika in hinamizawa. Because Rika 100% will find out its her. So their friendship will be destroyed. Or maybe satako plans on making scars so rika decides to stay without remembering it all? If i was her, my plan would be rather than go back in time right away to convince rika, make it so any time she leaves hinamizawa every new thing she makes, is ruined or dies. One by one to make others around her think she's cursed and thus maintain friends forever with out her knowing. But hey, you do you Satako.
Wonder how they did the "finger snap to trigger the mechanism" in the manga. I guess a very thin string could be used, still tho a snap and a chandelier gets released? Rly...
Double K.O.
I think Satoko was just paranoid due to the dormant hinamizawa syndrome which caused her to become a bitch and perceive Rika as leaving her behind when in reality Rika wasn't.
Because of small Mistakes Satoko go a bit...Aghr...Yandere...in my opinion...Very bad turn...,That why i think this never happened if the both of them talk about there own problems....,but is better to hate then talk...
I’d agree with satoko even though I know it’s wrong I feel that when my past best friend went to hang out with some other people I would’ve done the same if if not for the fact that I have no reset
@@ericluo520 You'd spend weeks, months, years, abusing time travel powers to murder and torture people? Wow, you're officially the worst people I've ever spoken to.
We have to keep in mind Satoko is a psychologically broken person. She was abused, rejected by her village, lost her family, and now her best friend rejects her. The dreadful feelings of void inside her must be atrocious
@@latiaos11 Even so, her scheme will blown up in her face and all the things she's afraid of happening will happen as the result of it.
ez get clapped
I know Satoko is unforgivable and blah blah blah I don't want to start an argument but I love her carnage lmao
I wish I didn't see the title before I watch the episode 💔
All this because satoko doesn't wanna grow up. Fucking unreal.
It's a bit deeper than that lol. You can't just tell someone with mental issues, who was a victim of abuse, and has dependency issues to "grow up". The problem from the start is that Satoko isn't a regular healthy individual
ikr
@@trfandom250 Considering she pressured Satoko to come with her and went so hard promising she would be there for her, I disagree. She does owe Satoko something lol. It's one thing if Satoko just choose to randomly go to that school, bur she only went because Rika kinda forced her to and made a bunch of promises she didn't keep.
@@trfandom250 really? I guess you’ve forgotten that Satoko was the one of Rika’s friends who helped her to get out of time loop, haven’t you?)))
*pumped up kicks playinh*
So Rika finally escaped her loops and moved on with her life, and because of that Satoko went off the deep end? That's honestly pretty pathetic.
she was coerced by someone who has years of experience on her, and is in a very important place in her heart, to that girl rika is her rock, the one who protected her when in hinamisawa, but lets remember, that that the cat is not above any sort of tricary, she knows how important she is to that mind broken blonde brat, and think she is just making a scene, but her own wishes should be respected, she had a happy timeline, one were she did not needed rika, in that timeline, rika killed her own mom just to have her happy hinamisawa life as she desired, now that she is against another looper she is just getting a taste of her own medicine, both witches are crazy, but i realy like both, i dont think that neither is rigth
@@brenokv
Rika did everything she could to break the cycle. She didn't kill her mother because she wanted to, she killed her to spare her the same pain she suffered, and because it meant that the disease wasn't eradicated like in the good timeline. If not for Rika, everyone in Hinamizawa would have died one way or another. She didn't coerce anyone, she saved them. She's suffered greatly to save Hinamizawa and the people in it, and now that she's free she just wants to move on and live a normal life. Satoko is just being petty.
@@kirikakirikakirika i do not belive rika is evil, but in that whole looping malarki there are a lot of possibilities, while trying to make my point i did over vilefied rika but intend this as a joke, but still to me, she should at least had the tact to know her friend would need more of a support group than a acasional talk with her, rika fougth the cycle and as i see it she is correct in allmost all of it, but in all the worlds she knows how much she means to that lil blonde psycho, satoko went berserk because she could not break her friend resolve, rika however, can easely make a non looper satoko do as she wishes, just by being the miko that protected her in childhood, and while i recognise this as only a theory of mine, i do mantain that rika has a need for satoko, and sees her as a mixture of possible future lover ,and actual daugther stand in, lets remember that rika is a wise old bat, that was forced to grow callous and manipulative to win the game, also, she looped enougth to know what a psychotic break looks like even without hinamisawa syndrome, the whole "choose, me or the school" at least as i understand it ,is not "there is only a real choice ,me, and if ya choose those stuck up princecess i Will go yandere", but more of a "listen bich ya not the only one with resolve, and i will not be your plaything" i dont think satoko will do this, but i belive, if she let the ciclo go and just held still in hinamisawa, her friend would came looking for her, maybe even a lil bit pissed that she has does not have that lil girl who idolises her anymore, my whole outlook is this witches are biches and those two , are just it ,witches, they been broken enougth to accept that are incontable worlds, many of those not pretty, but tham they will go trogth a lot to have their own happy end, and i dont think rika will be fully satisfied abandoning hinamisawa, and not having satoko, but hey i migth be wrong, it is still fun to theorize and analise those two
Satoko is responsable for all events in higurashi gou?
Yep. Masterminded the whole season really.
Holy crap
oh!
You mean the first one?, or the next one?, or the next next one? Or the next next next one?, or the next next next next one?, or the next next next next next one?.
So is this the remake..? It's been awhile since I've watched Higurashi, so I'm a bit lost.
It's a sequel haha.
The new Higurashi is not a remake it's actually a sequal you should definitely watch it
Get. The. Chair.
Holy shit...
Now together they are risato. Not risotto mindo you.
Satoko???? What happened?
Both are in fault but still satoko's action is not right I don't sympathy satoko because satoko just doing those for her own will and it's selfish.
Also I don't think it's hinamizawa syndrome that caused her to become insane (School Timeline) and somehow she can still managed to control syndrome (timeloop timeline) as you can see when satoko dismembovel rika during ep 16 even though she get into L5 and she still have self conscious .
i see a lot of things about the chair, betrail and such, i did not watched yet this season, but dident rika basicaly adopt satoko, even if she is bing a lil bit of a bitch, oyr lil trap master is realy forgetting everything that drunken loli baba did for her
百合心中
Is she THANOS?😂WTF?
So they are even from the chair now right
😈
Why do the girls WORSHIP Rika?
The school fits her perfectly and Rika loves it. Satoko doesn't fit at all but she still went with Rika.
Cause Rika is one of the heads of her village. She has pedigree. She is smart, she is soft talking, she is polite, and she is nice to everyone. She is the perfect lady that fit into the image of the school. Why do the girls DISLIKE Satoko? She's obnoxious, attacking them, insulting them, making fun of them, refusing to spend them with them. Satoko: Why am I alone?
Die!! Rika!!! 3:30
Wdf is this anime even about
Why are people saying Rika deserved it? I thought the blonde hair girl bullied her?
Satoko and Rika were best friends ever since season 1. (Except for the 'Perfect World' in the Rei OVAs) and Satoko did learn a lot just to get accepted into Rika's dream school just so they can hang out together.
That world where Satoko bullies Rika is from a different world where no tragedy took place so it's not the same Satoko as this one. The Rika and Satoko here has been best friends since childhood.
Mmmm :)
I haven't watched Gou yet, but, was this all due to... Satako's failing grades? Kinda a bit much 😅
lol watch Gou and you’ll understand that both are in the wrong.
More than that
@@moinmahmud6265 Sorry, I don't understand aside from this clip (which was recommended to me).
Not only that, but Rika ignored Satoko for her new friends. Though, as stated here, Rika did make an attempt to help Satoko study that Satoko refused, so they’re both at fault.
@@SheWhoLikesAnime24 Thank you for the explanation! I still find it a bit extreme (because they both end up dying here), but I do comprehend the importance of the theme friendship in Higurashi, so I can see why Sakato took it to an extreme. Again, thank you!
Satoko reach L5
No...That ain't it.
@@manuelalbertoromero9528 well it was showing how stressed Satoko was and St.Lucia proves that you can never put a person from Himinizawa in that school for they will commit funny but deadly heinous crimes
@@moinmahmud6265 No, no. You don't get it. This goes beyond just the syndrome.
Satoko is cured from the syndrome. She just went literally bat shit mad
@@latiaos11 Irie also said that even if she recovers from the syndrome, her brain is still conditioned to act in extreme ways. Just because she’s ‘cured’ doesn’t mean the syndrome doesn’t still have some kind of effect on her.
I can see both sides, but I hate Satoko lol
satoko is most definitely in the wrong. i hate her too man
This is the worst anime ever it’s like jackass on MTV but Japan
This anime is the worst i have ever seen