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  • Опубликовано: 26 ноя 2024

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  • @EposVox
    @EposVox 3 года назад +29

    This has been affecting my skin tones on my Ursa Mini Pro for YEARS. I thought it was weird since the camera has a IR Cut filter

  • @ColorfieldMedia
    @ColorfieldMedia 3 года назад +6

    Those ICE filters are the best! Inexpensive and they actually work. Comic Sans font for the win.

  • @EugeniaLoli
    @EugeniaLoli 3 года назад +41

    I aways have that same ICE filter on my bmpcc4k at all times. I knew about the IR pollution since day 1 on these cameras (all their models), so I always have it strapped in no matter if I use an ND or not. Here's another tip for you: for night city scenes, consider the ICE 82mm Lipo Light Pollution Filter ($45 on B&H), strapped in right after the ICE IR CUT filter at night (yep, both of them). You will get a clear view of night scenes, similar to what you would get from film. Remember film-shot movies, how "neutral" the night scenes always were, while with modern digital cameras, you get this extreme yellowness on everything (particularly with Sony sensors, like the BMPCC is using). Canon is the only camera that has both neutral night scenes and it does not ever require an IR CUT (even better reduction of IR than the Alexa).

    • @hauntedbytheliving1175
      @hauntedbytheliving1175 3 года назад +7

      Eugenia, it seems like everywhere I find content that gets one closer to the best image possible, you’re there posting the best damn advice on getting filmic results… from Gen 5 color science to “thick details” it’s incredibly valuable!
      I scaled by your film texture settings to be a bit more subtle to a point where it LIVES on my timeline rather than special occasions. It’s the secret sauce that imparts filmic definition and makes everything less digital/sterile looking.
      Thanks SO much for continuing to share your unique and powerful insights!
      The knowledge you sage in the comments sections on RUclips each deserve their own dedicated video on your channel.

    • @EugeniaLoli
      @EugeniaLoli 3 года назад

      @@hauntedbytheliving1175 Thank you so much, appreciated! :)

    • @milanjani
      @milanjani Год назад

      @@EugeniaLoli so this means, if we have EOS M50 or M6 Mark ii or any Canon DSLR/DSLM new or old, we don't need the IR filter? somehow footage from Canon always looks good no matter what. But lately I have EOS M50 and sometimes I see funky output. Funky means banding in the sky which is next to impossible to get. But I still see it.

    • @nathancasey7712
      @nathancasey7712 Год назад +2

      @@hauntedbytheliving1175 film texture settings?

  • @RyanKao
    @RyanKao 3 года назад +18

    Ordering this rn.. love the blank sign off at the end. Gold haha

  • @DavidsOldChannel
    @DavidsOldChannel 3 года назад +4

    Thanks for making this video, when I was getting my pocket 4K, there was little to no information out there. I've tested the HOYA IR Cut filter on Pocket 6K and 4K and for sure, the 6K needs much more IR cut then 4K. Still nowhere near enough as URSA cameras.
    My biggest issue is with wide angle lenses. Once you go wider than +/- 24mm, you start to see a lot of green vignetting. Because of that, I stopped using it all together. Getting rid of the very slight cast on my 4K is so much more easier than dealing with green vignetting.

  • @BryceDearden
    @BryceDearden 3 года назад +1

    I haven’t had to film myself very often but it’s nice to know that I’m not the only one who just stops talking and let’s the camera roll while my eyes dart around my notes

  • @monomagnus8738
    @monomagnus8738 3 года назад +4

    I use NiSi Cinefilters in a mattebox, and they are as clean as you can, almost no color shift.
    Also, vari ND will mess up your footage if you need to polarize, as it's just stacked pola's.
    I recommend static IRNDs and static pola, a bit more hassle, but looks so good :)

    • @bluefilmsltd
      @bluefilmsltd Год назад

      It's weird how people don't know this about vari NDs.

  • @karliemorris7318
    @karliemorris7318 3 года назад +3

    i have that filter, it works wonderfully ,it doesn't drop the quality

  • @GavinWandersee
    @GavinWandersee 3 года назад +3

    I mean for only $40 along with shipping, that really does sound like a good deal just to have it around whether it’s absolutely needed or not

  • @NickBB
    @NickBB 3 года назад +2

    I have a HOYA SOLAS ND PRO IRND 0.9 that works pretty well for the IR issue

  • @quirinthalhammer8566
    @quirinthalhammer8566 3 года назад +2

    I have the rawlite filter. I'm not 100% convinced. The IR filtration and the Low pass filter ist great (Did you ever notice, how much moire sometimes is in the bmpcc4k image?), but it adds a magenta ghosting in some light situations.

  • @TheDavidcallahan
    @TheDavidcallahan Год назад

    Thanks, Spenser! Glad you have time to test and share your results!!

  • @saviwaves5337
    @saviwaves5337 3 года назад

    yoooo i thought it was me??? like i was just constantly making stupid mistakes and hoped no one would notice... but this explains so much. i’ll have to add this to my filter collection.

  • @mir3724
    @mir3724 3 года назад +2

    wow, that is a huge difference, love what you're doing man..

  • @jonpaultucker
    @jonpaultucker Год назад

    I bought the ICE IR Cut filter partly due to this recommendation and under 5 stops of ND there was a tonne of IR pollution. Talent was wearing a black jacket that went completely magenta and noisy and there was magenta cast across the whole frame. Colours were just straight up weird. It seems to have worked for many so I can only put this down to bad quality control or something. I will never buy a cheap filter again.

  • @NigelBarros
    @NigelBarros 3 года назад +5

    hyped on the podcast news!

  •  3 года назад +2

    I don't know why, but I didn't had IR pollution once. I'm using my P4K with some aliexpress ND filter and my UMPG1 with internal ND, not even one single trace of IR. Maybe it has to do with the part of the world where you live. I honestly don't know.

  • @BrendanGill
    @BrendanGill 3 года назад +1

    yeah best ending to a camera vid I've seen in years!

  • @risingempireentertainment
    @risingempireentertainment 3 года назад +1

    I've never seen this with my Ursa mini pro. All my colors have matched well.

  • @tubeman1983
    @tubeman1983 10 месяцев назад

    I want to see an ir-cut and olpf filter installed on the new micro 4k g2 studio camera by Blackmagic. Thanks

  • @biawa849
    @biawa849 3 года назад

    I use 77mm HOYA IR-cut filter and 77mm HAIDA IR-cut filter, I can add another variable 82mm ND filter in front of these IR-cut filters. And I also use Fujifilm IR-cut filter for my matte box, they have IR78, IR80, IR82, IR84, IR86... .... to IR 94 square filters.

  • @AxTechs
    @AxTechs 3 года назад +3

    After the IR filter it straight up looks like an alexa

  • @bigfu
    @bigfu 3 года назад +2

    Man I haven't ran into this problem..and i have the pocket 4k and 6k

  • @IndianKD
    @IndianKD 3 года назад +3

    Thanks! What about the "HOYA UV IR cut" filter? It works the same? Is it better/worse/same in comparison with "ICE 77mm UV IR Cut Filter "?

    • @UbiquitousBooks
      @UbiquitousBooks 2 года назад +1

      Just for anyone who comes here with the same question: I use the HOYA 77mm UV IR Cut on my p4k and it seems to do the job just fine. I bought the filter after an entire shoot got ruined by insane IR pollution that was so bad I couldn't grade it out.

  • @tarsieradagency1360
    @tarsieradagency1360 3 года назад +1

    I have had the ICE IR cut filter for almost 2 years now and never shoot without it.

  • @jas_bataille
    @jas_bataille 3 года назад

    I was fortunate enough to get told by a pro VFX artist from Hollywood to always put infrared on Black Magic and RED cameras. I have an Haida myself, it's 200 bucks but worth it!

  • @VivaMediaInc
    @VivaMediaInc 3 года назад +1

    Ouuu very interesting! We use 2 6K Pro's and the previous 6K pocket cameras. We should download this and test it out!

    • @JacobVossFilms
      @JacobVossFilms 3 года назад +1

      Im wondering about my 6K Pro as well 🤔

  • @jdsmedia
    @jdsmedia 3 года назад +1

    I have one, i can confirm it works well.

  • @tobiasmyers3505
    @tobiasmyers3505 3 года назад

    Thanks. I knew this was a thing, but hadn't found a cheap solution. I saw an older cinematography workshop video where the DP, Roberto Schafer, said he didn't like how grass had red in it on digital vs. film. Maybe he had Infrared pollution and even professionals were less aware of it at the time.

  • @jorgemonteiro5379
    @jorgemonteiro5379 6 месяцев назад

    Do you remove the internal filter of your Bmpcc4k, and use only the ICE filter in front of the lens? Because if it works well without te internal IR cut I ´ll remove mine immediately and buy one Ice Filter.

  • @bnkproductions100
    @bnkproductions100 3 года назад

    Thank you for useful info. I am ordering this filter for my BMPCC 4k.

  • @chriseyrewalker
    @chriseyrewalker 3 года назад +1

    Great info! I added a RawLite filter to my G2. but not my 6K yet. Might look into the filters, thanks! Also, that sign off was gold haha

  • @aarondavidlewis
    @aarondavidlewis 3 года назад

    The amazing thing is that this goes all the way back to my version 1 BMCC.... and the first gen BMPCC's as well. Another thing you can use is a Tiffen T1 filter, but I found with those you end up with a great image, but have to grade out variable amounts of magenta or green in post... which is time consuming. The end image if I was using a T1 always came out great though. But I stopped using Black Magic cameras after owning 6 or 7 of them going all the way back to their first cameras.... and the IR pollution and associated hassles was one of the biggest reasons. Another was never putting a good articulating screen on them. Ugh!

  • @ekphotography
    @ekphotography 3 года назад

    Just got rid of all my P6K stuff and got the FX3 and very happy. Although the Blackmagic file IS "better" the FX3 is just so much easier in all other aspects.

  •  3 года назад

    When I was younger I used a Canon 600D with a Mosaic Engineering 1080p OLPF rammed under the mirror.
    It seems those days are back haha

  • @scarpelliproductions
    @scarpelliproductions 3 года назад +1

    Do you know if the ZCam e2-m4 has an IR cut filter?

  • @jake2eproductions
    @jake2eproductions 3 года назад

    I bought the same one a few months back and just keep it threaded to my variable ND

  • @sergioknuf
    @sergioknuf Год назад

    Will it work on the micro cinema?
    What about the olpf

  • @bobtronic73
    @bobtronic73 3 года назад +2

    Hi Spenser, I finally got the Ice filter from your video. It really seems to help quite a bit with removing IR pollution. Thanks for sharing your finding. What's your opinion on it now after a few months?

  • @PedroHofmann
    @PedroHofmann 3 года назад

    great tipp - thanks, but item not available for now on Amazon Germany. Do you have another link?

  • @Aaron_Smith_OM
    @Aaron_Smith_OM 3 года назад

    Quick question. Hot mirrors and IR cut are essentially the same thing, except hot mirrors reflect IR pollution AWAY from the sensor and should be stacked on the front/top of the filter stack or furthest away from the sensor. IR cut have materials in the glass that ABSORB the IR pollution and should be stacked at the back/bottom of the stack closest to the sensor. Or is this wrong? I bought the IR cut filters you mentioned, but then realized, that I use matte boxes from PolarPro and Redrock Mirco. There's no way to stack in front of the ND on the PolarPro and, well, 4x5.56 glass of any type especially IR cut/mirrors are ex-pen-sive! lol. Thanks for the tips!

  • @fourth1000
    @fourth1000 3 года назад

    they have that auto focus adapter to use with mos lenses and it works really well.

  • @GabrielAlbaAudioVisual
    @GabrielAlbaAudioVisual 2 года назад

    Compré el filtro lo uso en una bmpcc 4k + viltrox speed booster + Sigma 18-35 mm + adaptador a 77 mm + filtro infrarrojo de 77 mm, al adicionarle el filtro ND variable se forma una viñeta en 18 mm, puedes ayudarme que filtro debo comprar?

  • @clyntondanielguzman
    @clyntondanielguzman 2 года назад

    my ir filter - thatt one that is already in the camera, is broke, i have no IR filter, can i use only this one? because i've been looking for a seller of thise little blue ir filter but couldnt find anyone on my country, is this enough for use?

  • @JaredOlsen
    @JaredOlsen 3 года назад +1

    Hey Spenser! Just found your channel and subscribed. I’m a fellow Pocket 6K shooter. I definitely noticed this red cast on a recent shoot but I didn’t consider IR. Thanks for the suggestions.

  • @JaredSpink
    @JaredSpink 3 года назад +2

    when stacking your filters is the IR in front or behind the ND?

  • @alexantony7681
    @alexantony7681 10 месяцев назад

    I purchased ice ir filter Should i remove the internal ir glass in my bmpcc6k 1 Gen. ?Or use both ir filters?? Please reply .Thank you

  • @PascalPayantfilms
    @PascalPayantfilms 3 года назад +1

    please compare the pocket 6k to the sony fx3. i have the pocket but I'm really curious if you can have the same quality, dynamic range , color etc.. if so i might switch cause the sony have a lot of good stuff that makes it easier than the pocket

    • @lukebriz6253
      @lukebriz6253 2 года назад

      If you're still deciding, I compared my pocket 6k to my mate's fx3, the fx3 is definitely an amazing camera and is crazy good in low light. I personally would have gotten the fx3 if I had the budget for it as I'm already a Sony shooter and it's definitely easier to use, however, it does not beat the pocket 6k in image quality.

  • @nino-simp
    @nino-simp 3 года назад +1

    What about the 6k pro?

  • @WellRfilms
    @WellRfilms 3 года назад

    Nice video! I don't understand why BM doesn't install an IR cut filter in front of their camera sensors. Does anybody know why they don't do that? I knwo that the RED sensors also don't have an IR cut filter, but they have 3 versions of IR cut filters you can buy for their RED cameras. That's a big difference for me. Is it too expensive for BM to build an IR cut filter in front of a sensor?

  • @RuhkcusTV
    @RuhkcusTV 3 года назад +1

    @Spenser Sakurai do pnasoinc S series cameras need this?

  • @dna8269
    @dna8269 3 года назад

    ICE filters have horrible threads fyi. Just picked one up and what a pain to screw on to the lens, and then it gets stuck fairly easily. Image-wise its great, though.

  • @quiztasiarocks
    @quiztasiarocks Год назад

    Hey Spenser, I have a UV/IR cut filter already, but if I want to use an IRND as well, would the cut filter go on first (closest to sensor), then IRND and then pro mist?

  • @jorgemonteiro5379
    @jorgemonteiro5379 6 месяцев назад

    Congrats for your channel! I have one question I have a blackmagic pocket cinema camera 4 k and I have a problem with the IR filter (the one between the lens and the sensor) it gets fungus very quickly and my footage is ruin, and that’s a pain in the ass to make the change of it for a new one. I see your video and I thought maybe i can remove the Ir cut for good and use the one you talk on your video using it on every shoot, put first the other filter ND and Pro mist and then at last put the ICE filter. Is this gonna work, is it that you do? Thanks in advance for your response

    • @spensersakurai
      @spensersakurai  6 месяцев назад

      are you removing the one built into the camera or using an aftermarket one? ive never had those issues. I only use filters in front of the lens.

    • @jorgemonteiro5379
      @jorgemonteiro5379 6 месяцев назад

      @@spensersakurai I was asking if I could remove the one built in ? (I already have to change it two times because of fungus on the filter and it start having the same issue again 🙁 So can I remove it and use only the IR Cut in front of the lens (like the one you talk in your video)

  • @nathancasey7712
    @nathancasey7712 Год назад

    Why does the right image look so blurry at 7:25?

  • @YusiDJordan
    @YusiDJordan 3 года назад

    I was fully prepared for this video to be some clickbait crap about nothing.
    I was wrong. I'm getting this for my Ursa Mini Pro G1 ASAP.

  • @timelessamor
    @timelessamor 2 года назад

    Do you have a link to a filter that works best on the 6k pro?

  • @firstmile
    @firstmile 3 года назад

    Do you need to use an IR filter on the FX3 camera?

  • @yosoyalquan
    @yosoyalquan 3 года назад

    So is this why my blacks look burgundy in sunlight?! But it’s only certain blacks

  • @CSAFilm
    @CSAFilm 3 года назад

    How about Nisi circular irnd filters?

  • @sotocine99
    @sotocine99 3 года назад +1

    I have no IR Pollution on my BM thanks to the B+W IR Filter.

    • @voradorlinux
      @voradorlinux 3 года назад +1

      ...but what about moiré? I also bought the B+W IR Cut and definitely works balancing image's color by filtering IR pollution but moiré is definitely an issue that plagues the camera with or without the IR Cut filter. Wondering if this Rawlite product really delivers as advertised, pretty expensive, costs as much as what my BMPCC currently would appraise for...

    • @sotocine99
      @sotocine99 3 года назад

      @@voradorlinux I have neber seen this moiré issue.

  • @ganapati6672
    @ganapati6672 3 года назад

    Funny how some people do not recommend Sony cameras, while never use them before :)

  • @JonasStuart
    @JonasStuart 2 года назад

    Love the awkward ending °¬)

  • @thenightowl_22
    @thenightowl_22 3 года назад

    does the order of the filters go IR->ND->lens?

  • @SAAGEWAY
    @SAAGEWAY 3 года назад +2

    the end killed me😂😂😂

  • @zecchinon
    @zecchinon 3 года назад

    Thanks for sharing! 🙌🏻

  • @patrickcazer
    @patrickcazer 3 года назад

    how do you feel about the GH5s ?

  • @xeveserpere5509
    @xeveserpere5509 3 года назад

    Hey man would your roger that lut still work correctly with the gen 5 update? I'm sure it does I just wanted to check.

  • @mrhobs
    @mrhobs 3 года назад

    I recently ordered a "B+W 86mm UV Haze SC 010 Filter" on BHPhoto and its advertised as being pretty much clear, but absorbing ultraviolet light and reducing the blue cast of daylight. Would this help the IR situation at least a little bit? I don't want both filters, so should I lose this one and slap on an IR filter? I plan on using NDs in my matte box, so I'm just throwing something on the lens for protection basically. I know UV is supposed to be pretty much pointless, just got it because it was cheaper than the plain clear one (I can see a vary tiny bit of pink coating on this one, but mostly looks clear), BUT... maybe I need to just use an IR filter for protection instead... just not sure its THAT much more functional than a blue cast removing UV filter that I already have (plus a bit of tweaking in post).
    But if it needs to be done... ugh, maybe I'll cancel the second UV filter I just ordered before watching this video, and sell the one I just picked up from FedEx today. (Or keep on as a back up... the new one I got was only 20, originally 89. Bought both used.)

    • @mrhobs
      @mrhobs 3 года назад

      That could have been worded much better, but I'm in a bit of a rush and also tired, heh.

  • @jassirhere9631
    @jassirhere9631 3 года назад

    Thank you!!

  • @swivel84
    @swivel84 2 года назад

    should i keep the IR filter even for indoor filming as well? does it affect much indoor? :)

    • @spensersakurai
      @spensersakurai  2 года назад +1

      Not as big of an issue but might as well

    • @swivel84
      @swivel84 2 года назад

      @@spensersakurai great! Just bought one to give it a try!!!

  • @jonjoygaba
    @jonjoygaba 3 года назад +1

    I don't have a BM camera but still follow all your stuff. Looking forward to your other content! Also, not sure of your recording setup but your mic is introducing a little bit of delay and is a touch out of sync.

    • @spensersakurai
      @spensersakurai  3 года назад

      Yeah it is. Was a big pain. Couldn’t totally fix it.

    • @fluffybuht
      @fluffybuht 3 года назад

      @@spensersakurai yea i totally understand!

  • @bybenoit5593
    @bybenoit5593 3 года назад

    If you dont mind me asking, what mic are you trying and what did you use before? I'm looking to upgrade from video mics but not sure where to go from here. Thanks!

  • @fulloffame
    @fulloffame 3 года назад

    you announced you launching a podcast so subtle lol

  • @brentdelacruzmusic
    @brentdelacruzmusic 2 года назад

    Hey I just purchased this for myself, wondering if you were getting a green vignette on yours/if there’s a fix to this in post. It’s pretty noticeable for me on my 6k pro

    • @spensersakurai
      @spensersakurai  2 года назад

      never had any vignetting problems

    • @brentdelacruzmusic
      @brentdelacruzmusic 2 года назад

      @@spensersakurai Think I figured it out actually. Simply too wide of a lens I believe, I’m using a tokina 11-16. Vignetting is only happening from 11-13ish though. Not sure if there’s a solution (btw using a step up from a 78-86). Wondering if I get one specifically for this lens thread size if it will help? Might just be too wide though…

  • @Plentyistheway
    @Plentyistheway 3 года назад

    Sound outta sync? Good info bro

  • @HallOfFootball
    @HallOfFootball Год назад

    The moment you realize the Christmas colors are the same…color…

  • @nikolozgabedava6934
    @nikolozgabedava6934 22 дня назад

    informative.

  • @darrenorange2982
    @darrenorange2982 3 года назад

    Fyi this video seems like your audio is out of sync a bit.

  • @Mexploitation
    @Mexploitation 3 года назад

    Does anybody have the link to get this?

  • @marcelomusso7685
    @marcelomusso7685 3 года назад

    Now i see all my footage magenta :( Buying this now

  • @PortkeysMonitor
    @PortkeysMonitor 3 года назад

    Hello, I am Harry from Portkeys. We are looking for some influencer to help us promote our new product monitor WR, great to know you are a good influencer on RUclips.
    Are you interested in doing a product review for Portkeys monitor - Camera Control for RED Komodo, BMPCC 4K/6K/6K Pro wirelessly, wired control of Canon, Sony, Z Cam, and Panasonics' cinema camera.

  • @docrela
    @docrela 3 года назад

    This just changed my perspective about that pesky “tint” and I’m starting to think is not only happening in BM

  • @EDWARDTHEEAUTHOR
    @EDWARDTHEEAUTHOR 3 года назад

    Yall better get one before the price goes up lol

  • @smalldeekgeorge
    @smalldeekgeorge 3 года назад

    Let me gues without watching..
    IR cut filter....

  • @xxwistfulguyxx3270
    @xxwistfulguyxx3270 3 года назад

    First comment👼

  • @jayalterEgoz
    @jayalterEgoz 3 года назад

    Lol end awkwardly

  • @olly5896
    @olly5896 3 года назад

    Love the BM colour and look, theyre very tempting, but does seem a lot of niggles to work around, not least the lack of tracking AF which as a solo shooter is the biggest. If BM released a camera with e/rf mount, PDAF, a proper filter stack, i wouldn't care if they doubled the price, i'd buy them.