Well after 325 thumbs ups in just 10 hours, someone was bound to be upset and give the video a thumbs down. Maybe they had Lucky Titanium Bearings, and Theeve Trucks.
*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*! READ BELLOW *!*!*!*!* READ BELOW *!*!*!*!*!*!*!* As of today, May 6th (the launch of this video), Theeve Titanium Truck Company added the following to their website: "**TITANIUM ALLOY BLEND is a marketing term which is used to denote our Cast Alluminium Alloy. Each Cast hanger (CSX, TIAX & TIKING) carries 0.012% of titanium." What they are finally admitting is that their trucks are NOT a "Titanium Alloy", but still want to use it as a "marketing term", which is still FALSE ADVERTISING! Why not call it a "Laser Guided Missile That Is Propelled By The Tears Of A Dying Baby Unicorn, And Upon Impact A Giant Burst Of Hot Pockets Rains Down Feeding The Homeless And Subsequently Cures Breast Cancer" which is used to denote our Cast Aluminum Hanger. The form of False Advertising they are NOW admitting to is known as Angel Dusting. Read the following. Angel dusting is a process where an ingredient which would be beneficial, in a reasonable quantity, is instead added in an insignificant quantity which will have no consumer benefit, so they can make the claim that it contains that ingredient, and mislead the consumer into expecting that they will gain the benefit. For example, a cereal may claim it contains "12 essential vitamins and minerals," but the amounts of each may be only 1% or less of the Reference Daily Intake, providing virtually no benefit to nutrition. --Wikipedia Let's all see what they do next!
Rat Vision - Skateboard Tech This is one of the reasons I take great pride in being a lowly skaterat. There aren't many other demographics that look out for each other as much as we do. Thanks for telling the kids what's up. The more skaters we have "keepin' it real", the less corporate casualty's we'll have in our "wonderful, horrible", way of life.
In these dark times of olympics, bad tutorials and scooter kids we need this kind of channel more than ever. Come back Rat Vision! You had the coolest name ever.
Honestly, this channel throws out exactly the kind of videos that I've been looking everywhere for, with solid facts and information to back up its claims. I've always loved Lucky Bearings and was shocked upon hearing how they lie. Thanks for the quality information you guys post in your videos!
Dude this is amazing!! Some suggestions for future episodes: 1. Chinese boards Vs. US boards: So yeah, dwindle distribution and crailtap both manufactures their decks in china to save money. Their boards are the same $50+ prices as US boards, but they claim that they're just as good as the US boards. However, I constantly hear how Chinese decks chip more often or how the shape becomes inconsistent or 'soggy'. I would love to hear your take on this. 2. Blank decks Vs. Brand decks I know part of the money for pro decks go to the pros, and that's fine to support them and everything, but $20 is still $20. Is there any difference in quality if I were to buy a $25-$30 board as opposed to a $50 board? 3. Gimmick boards: P2, Pop Secret, the Impact series, low pro. Does any of this shit REALLY give you more pop and board control, or am I throwing away extra money on something that will amount to nothing. 4. Skate shoe insoles: Etcetera, remind, footprint. This seems to be the next trend. They advertise that they help you preform better and skate longer. They can be a bit pricey, but would you recommend them? Or is the normal stock insole of a shoe good enough? Thanks for the great insight you're providing to skateboarding!
Thank you for the long comment. We are certainly working on Everything you brought up. Since you asked a lot, I'll give you a quick answer for each. 1. There is a difference between decks from China and the US or Mexico. However, some decks even here in the USA are getting bad too. So it seems like the manufacturers are just trying to cut corners to save money, and make more. Yeah, it is pretty stupid to pay the same price for a board made in the USA when it's now made in China. 2. Blank decks and brand decks are the same thing. It's just a graphic that is printed on it. However, generic blank decks found online could be a lot worse. Some blank deck suppliers have good boards too. It really depends on the wood quality and the resin/glue used. The resin/glue is very important too. 3. We can't wait to test all these composite decks, because they really don't do anything or very little. 4. The shoe insole is another thing to get people to buy crap. Some insoles are not very good, that's obvious. These new insoles may be just as good or worse than insoles already in skate shoes. So what are you really getting? Maybe just peace of mind, so it's in your head. What's next- lighter hats?
nicholas saunders From what I can tell impacts are the only ones that make the biggest difference, they don't get as much pressure cracks for sure and they are better for going down bigger sets (skated 2 impacts for a while)
don't I repeat DON'T buy Impact boards unless you want to change your board within a month or 2, I bought one and at first you are happy that you finally don't have pressure cracks around your trucks, but what you didn't think of before buying is that instead of being around the trucks, the pressure cracks are on the tip of the nose and the tail. Basically, your tail and nose will chip REALLY easily, and it will be chips of around 1'' -1'' 1/2 by up to like 4 ''. These boards are great for pro who constantly change boards, but for us who keep the board until it really dies.
Yay! You're back! Thank you for this video, it made me more aware of how immersed I was in the pathetic marketing tactics. Please make more videos, I find them so interesting and entertaining.
Dude, there's no hype about the original 25+ years Bones Swiss. They are faster, shitload more duruable and i can run a set for 2 years until one or two break. I clean them every 3-4 months and oil them using Bones Speed Cream. I ride 54mm Spitfires F1 Parkburners wheels right with 'em and just finished another setup for pool runing 58mm Bones Slims SPF's with are MUCH faster wheels and with Reds, it felt slow as fuck! My 54's Spits and even 52 Bones 100 OG's felt faster. I changed everything to Swiss but cruisers and I never looked back since. $35-37 on eBay a no brainer. Good luck!
I've skated almost every type of bones bearings over the years dude. I cleaned them & kept them lubricated. They alll broke on me at some point, any of them last me around 5-8 months & they all skate just as fast as the other bones bearings. That's just you my dude.
As a physicist that has been skateboarding everyday as my primary mode of transportation in NYC for the last 18 years, one who also uses an SEM microscope from time to time, I cant thank you enough for the great information you are putting out there, and all the work you have done to gather data. Just like bicycling, skateboards operate like an extension of our bodies, and are a meaningful part of our daily lives. The physics behind them are important. Keep up the great work bro! Best regards, H
Hey, Thank you very much for the awesome and kind comment. We really appreciate it. We spend a lot of time and money making these videos. We enjoy educating people about skateboarding. People like you make it all worth it.
First time watching this channel and I must say the content is extremely informative. Many skaters tend to look over things like these and in the process, companies sell lemons to us, or at least sub par products. I especially like the scientific approach to the video content, instead of anecdotal evidence which seems to be what most other reviews utilize.
Dude thanks for your hard work on all your videos. Not many people like to put enough effort in to their videos. I encourage you to post more videos because you are very good at what you do. I feel that everyone not only skaters like me should have the right to understand what fraud marketing is on branding. I feel that you should keep doing what you are doing and never give up.
I usually take my time watching a channels videos before hitting that subscribe button. Your channel is the fastest subscription I've made so far. Excellent info and animations.
Kieran Marson saving us money! I'm thankful because I'll admit I am at least always curious out these so called hype false terms. And I'm sure like most of us, I don't have the ability to go test these things.
Hi I found these wheels called Shark Wheels, and looking up reviews none of them go really into depth, so I was wondering what your take was on them? I want to be sure before blowing 70 bucks on some wheels.
Its been SO long since you posted a video. Nice to see you up. You seem a little pissed off because of these false claims, really pissed. I think there is a back story to this lol But awesome to see you up and posting again! Love your videos :)
So glad to see a new video, great work! Could you do a video on deck tech, like P2, Double Impact, Pop Secret etc. I think that would be super interesting to the skateboarding society. :)
Yesss. Love your videos! :D I was thinking about trying an almost double impact but honestly, weight didn't make a noticeable difference to me unless it was like a 10 pound difference.. Haha. The size out your equipment is what makes the difference.. So I'll just get another basic almost deck. :)
You should make a video from fake skate companies like prestige skateboards who scam skaters to send their skate edits and information for them and then accepts the "sponsor me" vids and says they are fully on the team and they will send them product if they purchase 1 deck but really after the purchase they dont send anything back to the "sponsored skaters".
Well first you need to think about what you asked. What is the difference between Swiss metal, USA metal, Chinese metal, or South African metal? Iron is a chemical element. That means it's the same no matter where it comes from on the entire planet, or outer space. Steel is an alloy of iron and carbon, and other elements. There are many different grades of steel containing different chemical compositions. Is doesn't matter where the metal comes from, because it's all the same chemical. Bones Swiss is probably Swiss metal and made in Switzerland, but does not indicate any added value over bearings made in China. A bearing is a bearing. They could be ABEC 3 rated, with poor manufacturing and material quality, and everyone is suckered into believing they are special just because they are "Swiss".
Well that's because Reds are not the top of the line. They are the lowest Bones Bearings. The ONLY ONLY thing we can do as consumers is assume/hope that Swiss bearings are not only Swiss, but that they are made with better quality manufacturing and parts. Swiss are not a different type of bearing. That's the point.
Are you out of your mind? Switzerland has the most advanced space program, computer technology industry, and is world renowned for being a dominant global force, said no one EVER.
Thnx for the video. I'm new to skateboarding and long boarding and i'm learning a lot each day. i didn't realize so much goes into this sport. i always thought you just buy a skateboard and just ride it until it breaks.
Great vid, bro. You should do a video about decks that contain composite materials like Uber Light, P2, etc. I've had two of these so-called super decks (Element Fiberlight and Flip P2) and they were both crap. I broke the nose of the Fiberlight after doing a half-assed ollie up an embankment (none of my 7 ply maple decks broke that easily). The P2 had NO POP and the deck basically broke apart around the composite layer (it chipped a lot and had serious stress cracks even though I only skated a big gap once on this board).
I have another suggestion. A video about those wheels that says "anti flatspots" and stuff. Btw, thanks for the video really appreciated it . *share to my friends*
I did once have dark star wheels guaranteed not to flat spot and they didn't, but idk about other ppl, i always roll with bones tho and even if stf's get flat spots they go away which i like
Maybe there's a reason the company is called "Theeves!" Haha. Very cool video. Thanks. Sweet dt board in background. And I dig the engineering centered info. Props to my skaters who even know what Northrop Grumman is at 3:45 . And *Shame on Lucky* . What's up, Lucky? Strange bird distributing? More like strange metals. I hope videos like this help the young skaters put down the weed and take up science or even business classes.
Love your vids man, nice to see your still in the game ( vids and tips). Iv always had a suspicion, but not to that extent. Im really surprised at the fact that those trucks had that tiny amount of titanium, it really does show companies up and how false they are/can be. Ill stick to buying trucks that don't try to make large claims. Suggestion: Decks, (quality, types, advice and tips when getting a deck and the differences between a really expensive deck and a slightly more budget deck!)
You're showing a Theeve Tiax truck in the video; which claims to have an ALUMINUM hanger and baseplate, but a titanium AXEL! But you're saying in the video that it has a titanium hanger as well; which is not true. Only the expensive $100+ Theeve TiH truck has a solid (one piece) titanium hanger and axel; and it's much thinner than this Tiax truck you're showing in the video..
I am stoked you are calling out hucksters in our industry that will say anything or sell anything to make a buck. Speaking of Theeve Trucks, I will add that they originally made a deal with us to purchase Bones Bushings directly from us for some of their trucks. They purchased some, and then none for over a year, but were still advertising trucks with our bushings, so we checked their trucks to see what was up. What we found was that they were utilizing an unauthorized "copy" of our bushings, (which are patented) ... I was not pleased to see skaters mislead that way and will no longer sell them our Bushings or deal with them. So, be careful what you read in ads. Titanium balls, "blends", ABEC 7 and 9 bearings, "RIGHT". Brands that are based on greed, hype and the thought that skaters are stupid and will not figure out they are getting sold a pile of shit, called "recycled organic materials" don't deserve to be part of skateboarding. Do your stuff!
I've never actually heard of these companies before but I love the fact that you called them out for false advertising. Sure, the trucks and bearings might work the same, but they shouldn't be lying about what they are made of.
I have finally pushed the subscribe button again because i saw you posted a video. I really hope you will post more often and consistantly for a while, cause i really like these videos :)
Finally a new video! I'm not even that interested in skating now...but I still enjoy your videos. They take a much better approach to explaining things. Like from the perspective of an engineer :)
But hey, at least Theeve is helping out in Afghanistan with the skate NGO Skatistan by donating tons of trucks, helping build parks, teaching skateboarding and making kids feel safer. They're also helping provide an education as well as leadership skills to help the kids in the 3rd world become successful when they become older.
Holy shit. I just found your channel yesterday and noticed it was pretty dead, but also took notice the the videos you had were top quality and very useful, so i subbed anyway. Then you coincidentally upload today, lol. I am pretty shocked with those finding of yours. That's a bit unsettling. I guess you really can't take a company's word.
Absolutely love your vids. So much work and precision put into them, and they're super entertaining. I love geeking out on skate gear so these vids are always a good watch. I only wish you guys updated more. Looking forward to any future vids.
Hard to make a list like that, because there are only a few manufacturers and the differences even between them are little: Enjoi=Almost=Blind=Cliche, Alien Workshop=Habitat, Real=Krooked, Girl=Chocolate, Zero=Mystery=Threat, Toy Machine=Foundation
DefinitelyKarl Is this to do with distrubutions? Because I have had both an Almost and a Cliche and I thought they were totally different. Maybe Rat Vision - Skateboard Tech should do a video on this.
DaftFlux2 You can look this up on the web yourself. :) The boards are manufactured the same way, but every brand within the distribution spices it up with different shapes. I might be not be correct, but I have looked in to this out of curiosity.
Finally Rat Vision is back! Thank you for letting the public know what they're actually buying, this video and hopefully others in the near future will prove that skate companies will finally come to their senses and let the public know what they're actually distributing. A subject that's been bothering me is about skate shoes; Nike SB to be accurate. The "SB" stands for "skateboarding" but is Nike SB really making skate shoes? Are quickstrikes meant for skateboarding? Why release a product in the skateboarding industry ONLY for fashion when Nike can just release it themselves in other words not SB's.
Yes dude! This is my new favorite video, way to debunk these crappy brands! This video made me subscribe to your channel, and this was a genius idea to do
This channel is cool. you really have to do more of these. I just watch all your videos. Dude all the things i had questions about is knot theory anymore. By the way i also wanted to ask you if the red reds bearings good to use for a new?
Great video. As a skater who just recently starting skating again after about 25 years, there are a lot of new products out in the market that I have been unsure of. Back when I was a kid we never had so many choices. Thanks to your channel I have really learned a lot. Keep up the good work and keep the videos coming.
I am really happy to watch your video. I was just looking how to safely pop out the 2RS bearing seal and i loved your video. I must say that bearings are really important. I personally buy only Koyo bearings made in Japan. They coast more but you are sure about the the end product . Even SKF is not longer what it use to be . All the best and keep up the good work.
I believe you tested the Theeve TiKing truck not the TiHanger truck. As stated on the Theeve website, the TiKing truck has an aluminum hanger with a hollow steel kingpin and titanium axle. However the TiKing hanger is constructed of one solid piece of titanium with no seperate through axle rod. It can never get axle slip.
Just came across your channel, good content but one thing i did notice was that the bearings' container does say they have a steel shield on them, so yeah they'll stick to the magnet
Man I like yours videos because you make sense in so many ways and actually know what you are talking about since you have facts to back them up and aren't just your opinions , sure some are your opinions but the majority of what you say are facts and I like you (: and this channel is awesome
nice vid i always wondered about the materials that these part were made of. I'm also curious about the tensor magnesium trucks are they actually Mg hangers? Another good video would be one about what is P2 technology and the impact disks in almost boards.
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Is your skate shop on a hill?
lol
lmfao!
for real though even with the goofy camera angles this guy is very helpful and detailed with his skate tips
+Clorox Bleach I swear we watch the same videos because I always see you in the comments.
Whiskeytown Skateboarding bruh your spelling
funniest part of this whole video, "If these really are solid titanium balls, then the balls should not stick to the magnet...... WELL HOLY SHIT!!!"
His reaction to the balls sticking to the magnet 😂
lmao
Dudes high AF.. lol
Lol
But I want solid titanium balls. And put them in my ball bag.
Well after 325 thumbs ups in just 10 hours, someone was bound to be upset and give the video a thumbs down. Maybe they had Lucky Titanium Bearings, and Theeve Trucks.
haha two dislikes cough cough theeve and lucky..
Probably! LOL
Man you seriously are pissed. Whats the back story to all this? Looks like youve been mad for a while. Sup man?
Rat Vision - Skateboard Tech it was prob an accident
I used to be a fan of Lucky bearings. :P Not anymore I guess.
*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*! READ BELLOW *!*!*!*!* READ BELOW *!*!*!*!*!*!*!*
As of today, May 6th (the launch of this video), Theeve Titanium Truck Company added the following to their website:
"**TITANIUM ALLOY BLEND is a marketing term which is used to denote our Cast Alluminium Alloy. Each Cast hanger (CSX, TIAX & TIKING) carries 0.012% of titanium."
What they are finally admitting is that their trucks are NOT a "Titanium Alloy", but still want to use it as a "marketing term", which is still FALSE ADVERTISING!
Why not call it a "Laser Guided Missile That Is Propelled By The Tears Of A Dying Baby Unicorn, And Upon Impact A Giant Burst Of Hot Pockets Rains Down Feeding The Homeless And Subsequently Cures Breast Cancer" which is used to denote our Cast Aluminum Hanger.
The form of False Advertising they are NOW admitting to is known as Angel Dusting. Read the following.
Angel dusting is a process where an ingredient which would be beneficial, in a reasonable quantity, is instead added in an insignificant quantity which will have no consumer benefit, so they can make the claim that it contains that ingredient, and mislead the consumer into expecting that they will gain the benefit. For example, a cereal may claim it contains "12 essential vitamins and minerals," but the amounts of each may be only 1% or less of the Reference Daily Intake, providing virtually no benefit to nutrition. --Wikipedia
Let's all see what they do next!
Are bones reds fake
Omar Rod no
Omar Rod Ya I've taken them apart and tested them and they are made of steel rather than red bones. 0/10 would not buy again.
Rat Vision - Skateboard Tech This is one of the reasons I take great pride in being a lowly skaterat. There aren't many other demographics that look out for each other as much as we do. Thanks for telling the kids what's up. The more skaters we have "keepin' it real", the less corporate casualty's we'll have in our "wonderful, horrible", way of life.
i missed your username 'boosh'
In these dark times of olympics, bad tutorials and scooter kids we need this kind of channel more than ever. Come back Rat Vision! You had the coolest name ever.
Honestly, this channel throws out exactly the kind of videos that I've been looking everywhere for, with solid facts and information to back up its claims. I've always loved Lucky Bearings and was shocked upon hearing how they lie. Thanks for the quality information you guys post in your videos!
WHY ARE YOU SHOCKED?? THIS IS NOTHING NEW
Things I did not expect to find on a skating channel: solid investigative reporting. Really nicely done!
Dude this is amazing!! Some suggestions for future episodes:
1.
Chinese boards Vs. US boards:
So yeah, dwindle distribution and crailtap both manufactures their decks in china to save money. Their boards are the same $50+ prices as US boards, but they claim that they're just as good as the US boards. However, I constantly hear how Chinese decks chip more often or how the shape becomes inconsistent or 'soggy'.
I would love to hear your take on this.
2.
Blank decks Vs. Brand decks
I know part of the money for pro decks go to the pros, and that's fine to support them and everything, but $20 is still $20. Is there any difference in quality if I were to buy a $25-$30 board as opposed to a $50 board?
3.
Gimmick boards:
P2, Pop Secret, the Impact series, low pro. Does any of this shit REALLY give you more pop and board control, or am I throwing away extra money on something that will amount to nothing.
4.
Skate shoe insoles:
Etcetera, remind, footprint. This seems to be the next trend. They advertise that they help you preform better and skate longer. They can be a bit pricey, but would you recommend them? Or is the normal stock insole of a shoe good enough?
Thanks for the great insight you're providing to skateboarding!
Thank you for the long comment. We are certainly working on Everything you brought up. Since you asked a lot, I'll give you a quick answer for each.
1. There is a difference between decks from China and the US or Mexico. However, some decks even here in the USA are getting bad too. So it seems like the manufacturers are just trying to cut corners to save money, and make more. Yeah, it is pretty stupid to pay the same price for a board made in the USA when it's now made in China.
2. Blank decks and brand decks are the same thing. It's just a graphic that is printed on it. However, generic blank decks found online could be a lot worse. Some blank deck suppliers have good boards too. It really depends on the wood quality and the resin/glue used. The resin/glue is very important too.
3. We can't wait to test all these composite decks, because they really don't do anything or very little.
4. The shoe insole is another thing to get people to buy crap. Some insoles are not very good, that's obvious. These new insoles may be just as good or worse than insoles already in skate shoes. So what are you really getting? Maybe just peace of mind, so it's in your head. What's next- lighter hats?
Rat Vision - Skateboard Tech I remember I owned a almost impact support deck and I will say I did notice a difference in the pop.
nicholas saunders From what I can tell impacts are the only ones that make the biggest difference, they don't get as much pressure cracks for sure and they are better for going down bigger sets (skated 2 impacts for a while)
don't I repeat DON'T buy Impact boards unless you want to change your board within a month or 2, I bought one and at first you are happy that you finally don't have pressure cracks around your trucks, but what you didn't think of before buying is that instead of being around the trucks, the pressure cracks are on the tip of the nose and the tail. Basically, your tail and nose will chip REALLY easily, and it will be chips of around 1'' -1'' 1/2 by up to like 4 ''. These boards are great for pro who constantly change boards, but for us who keep the board until it really dies.
Powell its made in China now too
When he just goes well woahh holy shitt!! It killed me 😂😂😂
TheArsenal omg ikr
We seriously need this channel back!!
Yea what happened why they stop making videos
more like thief trucks ,.. am i right?
+sean mc cann nope
atleast you tried
***** not directly
Its been a while since you guys uploaded a video, Thanks for helping out the skate community !!
You are very welcome. Thank you
Yay! You're back! Thank you for this video, it made me more aware of how immersed I was in the pathetic marketing tactics. Please make more videos, I find them so interesting and entertaining.
This is why I just stick with Bones Reds and some old faithful Indy trucks. what I've been riding since I was 8 years old, pretty much 10 years.
da homi
Dude, there's no hype about the original 25+ years Bones Swiss. They are faster, shitload more duruable and i can run a set for 2 years until one or two break. I clean them every 3-4 months and oil them using Bones Speed Cream. I ride 54mm Spitfires F1 Parkburners wheels right with 'em and just finished another setup for pool runing 58mm Bones Slims SPF's with are MUCH faster wheels and with Reds, it felt slow as fuck! My 54's Spits and even 52 Bones 100 OG's felt faster. I changed everything to Swiss but cruisers and I never looked back since. $35-37 on eBay a no brainer. Good luck!
I've skated almost every type of bones bearings over the years dude. I cleaned them & kept them lubricated. They alll broke on me at some point, any of them last me around 5-8 months & they all skate just as fast as the other bones bearings. That's just you my dude.
Văn Trần same
Amen bro!
was ur store built diagonally?
What store?
lmao your camera is sideways throughout a lot of the video
Yeah for that cool angled effect. It's really to get more in a shot.
Now I get it... : /
Rat Vision - Skateboard Tech precisely, Robin.
Damn I love this channel, it takes skating to the science level
MC_Mac_MC sadly, these companies like Thief think everyone skater or surfer is stupid.
As a physicist that has been skateboarding everyday as my primary mode of transportation in NYC for the last 18 years, one who also uses an SEM microscope from time to time, I cant thank you enough for the great information you are putting out there, and all the work you have done to gather data. Just like bicycling, skateboards operate like an extension of our bodies, and are a meaningful part of our daily lives. The physics behind them are important. Keep up the great work bro!
Best regards,
H
Hey, Thank you very much for the awesome and kind comment. We really appreciate it. We spend a lot of time and money making these videos. We enjoy educating people about skateboarding. People like you make it all worth it.
First time watching this channel and I must say the content is extremely informative. Many skaters tend to look over things like these and in the process, companies sell lemons to us, or at least sub par products. I especially like the scientific approach to the video content, instead of anecdotal evidence which seems to be what most other reviews utilize.
Dude chill.
It's been awhile I'm glad ur back keep uploading great content your doing a good job
Thanks!
Dude thanks for your hard work on all your videos. Not many people like to put enough effort in to their videos. I encourage you to post more videos because you are very good at what you do. I feel that everyone not only skaters like me should have the right to understand what fraud marketing is on branding. I feel that you should keep doing what you are doing and never give up.
I usually take my time watching a channels videos before hitting that subscribe button. Your channel is the fastest subscription I've made so far. Excellent info and animations.
Thanks for the nice comment.
you should expose any other skate brands w/ false advertising very informative liked and subscribed
skateboard tech is a savage and calling out brands
Kieran Marson saving us money! I'm thankful because I'll admit I am at least always curious out these so called hype false terms. And I'm sure like most of us, I don't have the ability to go test these things.
Hi I found these wheels called Shark Wheels, and looking up reviews none of them go really into depth, so I was wondering what your take was on them? I want to be sure before blowing 70 bucks on some wheels.
Its been SO long since you posted a video. Nice to see you up. You seem a little pissed off because of these false claims, really pissed. I think there is a back story to this lol But awesome to see you up and posting again! Love your videos :)
You channel is great! It's sad that you dont have alot of subscibers for all the work you do for your vids
We are close to 60,000 subscribers which is not bad at all. We've only got 18 videos too. Thank you for the nice comment.
Finally! A new vid
So glad to see a new video, great work! Could you do a video on deck tech, like P2, Double Impact, Pop Secret etc. I think that would be super interesting to the skateboarding society. :)
We already have those decks and will be shooting a video of them in the near future.
Yesss. Love your videos! :D I was thinking about trying an almost double impact but honestly, weight didn't make a noticeable difference to me unless it was like a 10 pound difference.. Haha. The size out your equipment is what makes the difference.. So I'll just get another basic almost deck. :)
out = of*
You should make a video from fake skate companies like prestige skateboards who scam skaters to send their skate edits and information for them and then accepts the "sponsor me" vids and says they are fully on the team and they will send them product if they purchase 1 deck but really after the purchase they dont send anything back to the "sponsored skaters".
Exactly
RAT VISION IS BACK BABY!!!
how about bones swiss. does bones swiss really use swiss metal? please awnswer!
thanks!
yeah I'd really like to know that.
Well first you need to think about what you asked. What is the difference between Swiss metal, USA metal, Chinese metal, or South African metal? Iron is a chemical element. That means it's the same no matter where it comes from on the entire planet, or outer space. Steel is an alloy of iron and carbon, and other elements. There are many different grades of steel containing different chemical compositions. Is doesn't matter where the metal comes from, because it's all the same chemical. Bones Swiss is probably Swiss metal and made in Switzerland, but does not indicate any added value over bearings made in China. A bearing is a bearing. They could be ABEC 3 rated, with poor manufacturing and material quality, and everyone is suckered into believing they are special just because they are "Swiss".
Well that's because Reds are not the top of the line. They are the lowest Bones Bearings. The ONLY ONLY thing we can do as consumers is assume/hope that Swiss bearings are not only Swiss, but that they are made with better quality manufacturing and parts. Swiss are not a different type of bearing. That's the point.
Rat Vision - Skateboard Tech im pretty sure the engineering is better there than in china or usa
Are you out of your mind? Switzerland has the most advanced space program, computer technology industry, and is world renowned for being a dominant global force, said no one EVER.
Thnx for the video. I'm new to skateboarding and long boarding and i'm learning a lot each day. i didn't realize so much goes into this sport. i always thought you just buy a skateboard and just ride it until it breaks.
"Titanium balls" lol
*Teenager* lol
YOUR ALALIVE COME BACK AND SAVE US
Thank you for the video! Been waiting for so long and finally you're back!
I like videos like this nice work!
Great vid, bro. You should do a video about decks that contain composite materials like Uber Light, P2, etc. I've had two of these so-called super decks (Element Fiberlight and Flip P2) and they were both crap. I broke the nose of the Fiberlight after doing a half-assed ollie up an embankment (none of my 7 ply maple decks broke that easily). The P2 had NO POP and the deck basically broke apart around the composite layer (it chipped a lot and had serious stress cracks even though I only skated a big gap once on this board).
holy shit, this channel takes skate do a scientific level. Subscribed
I have another suggestion. A video about those wheels that says "anti flatspots" and stuff. Btw, thanks for the video really appreciated it . *share to my friends*
We will be doing some testing on wheels.
Rat Vision - Skateboard Tech this video was so facinating you should make a mini series
I did once have dark star wheels guaranteed not to flat spot and they didn't, but idk about other ppl, i always roll with bones tho and even if stf's get flat spots they go away which i like
Maybe there's a reason the company is called "Theeves!" Haha.
Very cool video. Thanks.
Sweet dt board in background. And I dig the engineering centered info.
Props to my skaters who even know what Northrop Grumman is at 3:45 .
And *Shame on Lucky* . What's up, Lucky? Strange bird distributing? More like strange metals.
I hope videos like this help the young skaters put down the weed and take up science or even business classes.
Thanks for putting the time and research into all of your videos. It's helping all of us except the crooked manufactures! Great job man.
my friend was going down a hill with lucky bearings on his long board and it broke
He wasn't lucky
Jermaine Mercado i lold
I had a bout of that myself one time, knocked me right on my ass.
Love your vids man, nice to see your still in the game ( vids and tips). Iv always had a suspicion, but not to that extent. Im really surprised at the fact that those trucks had that tiny amount of titanium, it really does show companies up and how false they are/can be. Ill stick to buying trucks that don't try to make large claims. Suggestion: Decks, (quality, types, advice and tips when getting a deck and the differences between a really expensive deck and a slightly more budget deck!)
We will be doing a video on decks and get it out as soon as we can. We've been working on testing decks already.
You're showing a Theeve Tiax truck in the video; which claims to have an ALUMINUM hanger and baseplate, but a titanium AXEL! But you're saying in the video that it has a titanium hanger as well; which is not true. Only the expensive $100+ Theeve TiH truck has a solid (one piece) titanium hanger and axel; and it's much thinner than this Tiax truck you're showing in the video..
Fantastic video, I appreciate the thorough research and courage you guys have to post
are bones red and bones super swiss 6 legit?
Bones reds use to be good but they suck now, rush bearings are way better.
They are.
I love this channel! Good to see you're posting again!
"Hey our audio is absolute trash with a bunch of loud hissing."
"Oh that's cool just add some shitty background music over it and it'll be fine."
Dude from now on youre my personal hero!
HA HA HA! Thanks!
I am stoked you are calling out hucksters in our industry that will say anything or sell anything to make a buck. Speaking of Theeve Trucks, I will add that they originally made a deal with us to purchase Bones Bushings directly from us for some of their trucks. They purchased some, and then none for over a year, but were still advertising trucks with our bushings, so we checked their trucks to see what was up. What we found was that they were utilizing an unauthorized "copy" of our bushings, (which are patented) ... I was not pleased to see skaters mislead that way and will no longer sell them our Bushings or deal with them. So, be careful what you read in ads. Titanium balls, "blends", ABEC 7 and 9 bearings, "RIGHT". Brands that are based on greed, hype and the thought that skaters are stupid and will not figure out they are getting sold a pile of shit, called "recycled organic materials" don't deserve to be part of skateboarding. Do your stuff!
gapbones so some of the ABEC 7 bearings are actually not ABEC 7?
..Nice!
I've never actually heard of these companies before but I love the fact that you called them out for false advertising. Sure, the trucks and bearings might work the same, but they shouldn't be lying about what they are made of.
I'm so excited he's finally made another video
I have finally pushed the subscribe button again because i saw you posted a video. I really hope you will post more often and consistantly for a while, cause i really like these videos :)
Love your work man! Can't wait til your next video
Finally a new video! I'm not even that interested in skating now...but I still enjoy your videos. They take a much better approach to explaining things. Like from the perspective of an engineer :)
5:56 holy shit! Haha
Lucky bearing is crap
But hey, at least Theeve is helping out in Afghanistan with the skate NGO Skatistan by donating tons of trucks, helping build parks, teaching skateboarding and making kids feel safer. They're also helping provide an education as well as leadership skills to help the kids in the 3rd world become successful when they become older.
So long no video
Great comeback ratvision guy! We've all learned so much from you and I have a question. Were you filming at xtreme boardshop Glendora, CA?
its been two years !!! where have you been ?!
Finally! You came back! Nice!
I lost faith in theeve....
they... stole your heart it looks like
Lmaooooo
Your videos give off a friendly 90's vibe to it :)
HA HA HA HA HA HA! WHAT? WHY 90'S? LOL
idk lol, it's the style of video. Like how the camera is tilted, how you talk, vibe, etc.
FUCK you're videos are underrated
Thanks
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Holy shit. I just found your channel yesterday and noticed it was pretty dead, but also took notice the the videos you had were top quality and very useful, so i subbed anyway. Then you coincidentally upload today, lol.
I am pretty shocked with those finding of yours. That's a bit unsettling. I guess you really can't take a company's word.
5:57 well holy shi*!!!! 😅😅😅😅
Absolutely love your vids. So much work and precision put into them, and they're super entertaining. I love geeking out on skate gear so these vids are always a good watch. I only wish you guys updated more. Looking forward to any future vids.
Can u do a top ten skateboard decks?
Creature, Creature, Creature, Creature, Creature, Creature, Creature, Creature, Creature, and Creature
Thats more of an opinion based thing
Hard to make a list like that, because there are only a few manufacturers and the differences even between them are little: Enjoi=Almost=Blind=Cliche, Alien Workshop=Habitat, Real=Krooked, Girl=Chocolate, Zero=Mystery=Threat, Toy Machine=Foundation
DefinitelyKarl
Is this to do with distrubutions? Because I have had both an Almost and a Cliche and I thought they were totally different. Maybe Rat Vision - Skateboard Tech should do a video on this.
DaftFlux2
You can look this up on the web yourself. :) The boards are manufactured the same way, but every brand within the distribution spices it up with different shapes. I might be not be correct, but I have looked in to this out of curiosity.
Finally Rat Vision is back! Thank you for letting the public know what they're actually buying, this video and hopefully others in the near future will prove that skate companies will finally come to their senses and let the public know what they're actually distributing. A subject that's been bothering me is about skate shoes; Nike SB to be accurate. The "SB" stands for "skateboarding" but is Nike SB really making skate shoes? Are quickstrikes meant for skateboarding? Why release a product in the skateboarding industry ONLY for fashion when Nike can just release it themselves in other words not SB's.
What about bones? Are they good?
Yes their the best ones
Bones are fine it's just lucky or unheard of ebay/online brands which you must watch out for when you're buying "cheap" bearings.
Finally you uploaded something !!!!! Are you guys going to post more?
Yes.
Yes dude! This is my new favorite video, way to debunk these crappy brands! This video made me subscribe to your channel, and this was a genius idea to do
your videos are really informative thanks for all the info on skateboarding
It's been too long! Glad I stayed subed and your back :)
Great investigative journalism! I don't even skate, was researching bearings for robotics.
The filming angles are like a 90’s TV show, Nick anyone?
You guys are back!!!
This channel is cool. you really have to do more of these. I just watch all your videos. Dude all the things i had questions about is knot theory anymore. By the way i also wanted to ask you if the red reds bearings good to use for a new?
How often will you guys post new videos? I find them really interesting and easily understandable for me since I'm still learning English :)
Your English is great. We will be posting more videos next month. We are working on big project right now, and that will be done in a few weeks.
Thank you! Hell yeah i'm really excited, can't wait for the next video :)
Glad your posting again always interesting
Great video, glad you're posting again. Any recommendations on companies that can be trusted, if any, lol.
"HOLY SH*T LOOK AT THAT!" hahahahahaha I was laughing so hard.
Hi dave from the UK love your videos, what bearings would you recommend?
Bones reds
Bone Swiss
bobbysatwat lucky titanium
bear bearings abec 7
Go with the classics dude use Bones reds
Great video. As a skater who just recently starting skating again after about 25 years, there are a lot of new products out in the market that I have been unsure of. Back when I was a kid we never had so many choices. Thanks to your channel I have really learned a lot. Keep up the good work and keep the videos coming.
Great video, I have one question though.If the trucks weren't titanium then why didn't the magnet stick to it? Thanks
+Diego 541 Look at the video again. The magnet didn't stick to the axle.
5:55 i just shouted "you bastards" at my computer
When's the next vid out?
Btw this is an awesome channel.the only place where you can get reliable information.
im studying mechanical engineer and im a skater and these videos are awsome!!! thanks for doing this kind of stuff :)
Thank you.
Six years after i realise you answer hahaha miss your videos man
Thanks for posting videos you guys do a lot of good for skateboarding
I miss your videos...when you're coming out with more? I love the information
Lruiz56 Next week!!!!
I am really happy to watch your video. I was just looking how to safely pop out the 2RS bearing seal and i loved your video. I must say that bearings are really important. I personally buy only Koyo bearings made in Japan. They coast more but you are sure about the the end product . Even SKF is not longer what it use to be . All the best and keep up the good work.
You're back!
Wonderful to see a new video, does this mean you'll start making them at a regular basis? I did of course subscribe.
Please, do upload more videos. You are the scientist of all skateboards! I love these videos!
yo, this is like his best video. best personality shown
I believe you tested the Theeve TiKing truck not the TiHanger truck. As stated on the Theeve website, the TiKing truck has an aluminum hanger with a hollow steel kingpin and titanium axle. However the TiKing hanger is constructed of one solid piece of titanium with no seperate through axle rod. It can never get axle slip.
Just came across your channel, good content but one thing i did notice was that the bearings' container does say they have a steel shield on them, so yeah they'll stick to the magnet
Man I like yours videos because you make sense in so many ways and actually know what you are talking about since you have facts to back them up and aren't just your opinions , sure some are your opinions but the majority of what you say are facts and I like you (: and this channel is awesome
Thanks alot!! I will now take extra precaution when looking for bearings and trucks!!
nice vid i always wondered about the materials that these part were made of. I'm also curious about the tensor magnesium trucks are they actually Mg hangers? Another good video would be one about what is P2 technology and the impact disks in almost boards.
They are magnesium. We will be doing a video on composite decks like P2 and Double Impact.