I'm a huge Ralph Bakshi fan. I watched his "Mighty Mouse" every saturday morning in 1988 because he was involved. He did the 1967 Spider-Man cartoon, in which he used water color skies, which became his trademark. He provided the water color skies in Vanilla Sky. I saw the movie at a theater and wanted to see who the fellow Ralph Bakshi fan was in the end credits and it was him. I had a friend who was roommates with his son at NYU. I had a customer at Suncoast looking for Vanilla Sky. She said that her art teacher at NYU did the matte painting of the sky. I freaked. I said "Ralph Bakshi was your teacher?". She replied ,"You've heard of him?". If you don't know of Ralph Bakshi you don't know Cult Cinema or Animated Cinema.
Man, I miss those creator driven cartoons back 1990s and 2000s that Ralph Bakshi created mighty mouse: the new adventure created design for meansteam audience ispride creative world cartoon ispride by golden age of animantion.
@@MrParkerman6 no, decline cartoon was begin 2010s because due Hollywood increases digital animation because due past 2007 great recession Hollywood lost Chuck good money due inflation their children channel like cartoon network or disney channel wanna produce cheap and safe their animated program Hollywood companies abandoned creator driven show changes story driven show because wanna cartoon to be safe hack, even character design most people hate today because due simplicity and cute look today animated series say 2000s because creator driven show are fresh die in 2007 ,that why internet hate Hollywood movies not because was "woke" or "SJWs reunited Hollywood " that bullshit, because Hollywood products are cheap nowadays both movies and television even worst today COVID 19 some their movies put service demand channel only because wanna cheap and why too many reboot movies and TV shows produce much Hollywood because their cheap Hollywood runs from people nowadays their by corporations their no original idea , don't say Hollywood was bad place to making movies and television good way great example disney and Pixar program produce great amazing animated movies by disney and Pixar thanks technology evolving CGI by decade lnoge time now became box success , sad part television need now , people respect animation.
Bakshi is right. I grew up in the 80's and worshipped He-man, G.I Joe, Transformers etc. I watch them now and blatantly see what they were. Half- Hour commercials directed at selling merchandise. I watch a Looney Tunes cartoon from the 50's and laugh my ass off.
I see a lot of comments bringing up the fact that 80’s commercial cartoons kept studios afloat like that completely invalidates the points of artists in this video. Yeah, that’s cool that they did that, but artists still literally had no say in the cartoon, toy manufacturers did. Animators were treated worse than dogs while working on these shows & there was no room to experiment or make what was happening on screen interesting. And guess what? That got incredibly boring and it fucking died, giving rise to networks like Nickelodeon who advertised their shows as “creator-driven” which is now primarily the standard to this day. However, a point raised by the artists side in this video is primarily untrue. Artistically these shows lack a soul, but writing wise they are still enjoyed today (example: Transformers); that cheese has even become nostalgic for better or worse. There’s definitely an argument to be had regarding the rise and decline of 80’s animation, but I am pretty satisfied in where we are right now with creators in the directors chair.
Cartoons are garbage today with the shittiest plots imaginable. I could still watch 80s cartoons an feel good. All the shit that's out today is depressing and STUPID. What the fuck is a pokemon?
@@Attmay their response about how they don’t like modern cartoons for no real reason is proven by me jokingly pointing out that they type like an old, senile man, incoherently rambling..? Kinda weird but ok :)
Ralph Bakshi is the only reasonable person in this, since he was an innovator of his time, he presented something you couldn't get anywhere and thus his films were immensively popular in the 70s while Disney, still trying to do the same schtick over and over again, almost died in the 80s. and honestly that would've been too good to be true. All I see is old people not only not being able to keep up with the times or respect the children's intelligence/freedom and use the GOVERNMENT to chastise the animation industry, say what you will about the vapid consumerism, these toys were keeping HUNDREDS of animation studios going, who would then do their own projects. The animation industry in the 1980's had actual variety to it, studios like Toei and TMS paved the way for high quality outsourced animation outside the Disney system and gave the world masterpieces of animation like Akira, Ghost in the Shell, so on. I don't even like anime that much but take one look at what children are drawing in their notebooks these days and you'll see who won the battle style-wise. The real consequence of curbing animation studios from doing stuff like this was the eventual murder of 2D animation, which didn't even need to wait 10 years to take effect, but it makes sense, people with money hire animators to do a show for them, and if the show sells then then the toys sells, if the show sucks then the toys won't sell, there is a reason why Transformers lost a great deal of its audience after the 1986 Movie, the show's animation quality dropped, and the toys sucked. I'm pretty sure all this was a plot by Disney to eliminate the competition who was absolutely destroying them in the 80s, Don Bluth was making films with an edge and soul and human identity they never dared put in their films and Transformers and GI Joe were capturing the imagination of the kids who would grow up to become Men, all this ''moralism'' and ''nice guy''-ry inlater kids shows ruined an entire generation, where their anchor for being good isn't God or Christianity, but motherfucking Disney movies, and now garbage like Steven Universe.
@Fake News with Isaac Baranoff I haven't seen any of the recent MLP, but from what I can tell it was approached with the love of a fan rather than a cynical cash-grab. A lot of those cynical products from the 80s-90s can now be reworked into something positive by fans of those series who have a better understanding of what they were,
People don't need God or Christianity to be good. Not all Disney movies are bad either and I'm never seen Steven Universe but from what I heard most people think it's a pretty good show that teaches some cool lessons,is funny and has a pretty cool visual style.
I didn't say they needed it, I'm just saying they're a much better north than a flawed show and mere products of a multi-billion corporation that is right now molding them to be suitable for show in China, a country with a murderous genocidal regime, made by an extremely corrupt industry filled with pedos, rapists and virtue-signallers who aren't even creative anymore, the problem is that if you're living in a godless society in which its customs are perverse, you're not going to know and you're going to be absorbed by the mob, and Jesus by proxy is the only one that can stand against the mob, you can still be good but you'd be oblivious to evil.
True when walt died disney died it's been running on nonsense ever sense now the company is a hollow shell of woke culture and cash grab remakes its gone.
He is half right. Making a cartoon to sell toys is diabolical but many hit cartoons then and now often sell merch/toys. There is even a demand for the merch once a series is popular.
@IanFindly-iv1nl those were cartoons whose animation was outsourced to Japan, I don't think that counts as anime. I do think Ralph would know about Speed Racer, Star Blazers and Gigantor, those stood put because they weren't stale sugar coated cartoons like the ones in America
All very interesting to see but they're not telling you that as kids you never would have had these shows without the toy lines to make them commercially viable to produce in the 1st place. For Bakshi to lay the claim in this that those cartoons were inherently made without love is just untrue if you've seen any sort of documentary material on the creation of almost any of the series mentioned. Also funny to hear from the guy who prided himself on working cheap. Then to point towards Disney who's trying to win ratings and fill theme parks as some altruistic entity. None of the points make any sense here for the most part in hindsight but it's an interesting time capsule.
Bakshi didn't seem to know what he was talking about, and neither did the reporter who said that Bakshi was bringing back sophistication to animation with his Mighty Mouse cartoon. Seriously, every one of those cartoons based on popular toylines was far more sophisticated both in terms of writing and animation. They were not just about selling toys, they were quality entertainment and oftentimes the writers found ways to mix in social commentary and/or some type of life lesson. I think that because Bakshi made movies like Fritz the Cat and Coonskin, everyone ended up assuming that he was some kind of socially conscious guru. This is s very fascinating story and a great example of how different things were 30+ years ago for reporters to have considered it a newsworthy story and politicians to have considered it something they could run for re-election on. But i believe Bakshi probably did this to persuade parents to have their children watch his show, instead of He-Man, Transformers, G.I. Joe, etc.
@@Supertron1 Admittedly, these shows were what was NEEDED at the time because like you said they brought back life lessons and decent writing. Not to mention they also brought back action and conflict which was eliminated in 70s cartoons when parents groups protested to take away violence. Hence why you see a lot of 70s American cartoons look cheap and atrocious because of the rules they had to follow to please parents.
@@gerawallstar3487 Exactly. The 80s saw the return of villains who were would-be tyrants bent on world domination, like Megatron, Cobra Commander, and Skeletor. These villains were portrayed as devious, cunning, and intelligent, posing a real threat to innocent people, which made the hero's victory over them meaningful. Like you said, censorship was strict in the 70s. Anything that came close to resembling real life conflict was pretty much forbidden, and so villains were always portrayed doing goofy things like dressing up as a ghost or a werewolf to force a stubborn property owner out of their home. These 80s action cartoons based on popular toylines were a breath of fresh air.
Of course, what they don’t tell you is that within the halls of Disney there was opposition still to the idea of doing cartoons for television. There was still no way they could uphold the same production standards they had for theatrical animation. But that argument must’ve fallen on deaf ears when *The Black Cauldron* turned into a money pit and *Gummi Bears* and *DuckTales* became hits.
80's was all about the cartoon selling the toy. But what's the difference between a Seasame Street Toy than a GI Joe, HeMan, Volltron, Transformers, Thundercats, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Power Rangers, etc toys? Maybe the toy industry with cartoons selling the product did become overwhelming with merchandising. But then on the other hand parents could've simply said "no" not today or meaning any other day like mine was famous for.
So back then they pushed toy sales in cartoons and today they push woke politics. Glad I grew up in the 80s. Great memories. No complaints. Love Bakshi, but this is much ado about nothing. There is no reason to look back on what we all loved with shame or embarrassment.
Bakshi's a legend.
Bakshi was, is, and will be right, all toy-cartoons are god-terrible!
Oh, by the way, Bakshi is a legacy, too!!!
Bakshi is garbage, fritz the cat was backwards trash.
Tolkien was the source for Jackson’s Lord of the Rings; Bakshi was his imaginary Influence.
@@thedarkknight4956 Just like your opinions. Boo
I'm a huge Ralph Bakshi fan. I watched his "Mighty Mouse" every saturday morning in 1988 because he was involved. He did the 1967 Spider-Man cartoon, in which he used water color skies, which became his trademark. He provided the water color skies in Vanilla Sky. I saw the movie at a theater and wanted to see who the fellow Ralph Bakshi fan was in the end credits and it was him. I had a friend who was roommates with his son at NYU. I had a customer at Suncoast looking for Vanilla Sky. She said that her art teacher at NYU did the matte painting of the sky. I freaked. I said "Ralph Bakshi was your teacher?". She replied ,"You've heard of him?". If you don't know of Ralph Bakshi you don't know Cult Cinema or Animated Cinema.
Mighty Mouse is like the power of ren and stimpy
A man with such a funny voice, but with such amazing insight.
(I cannot believe his voice actually sounds like that)
Well, he came from Terrytoons, you had to be just as funny to work there.
he's a dead ringer for lou ferrigno, voice-wise
@@henrikpersson4698 I was thinking similarly. It's the major New Yawker thing with a nasalness.
For once, animators and politicians agreed on something.
still so relevant today
Heck yeah, Ralph. You're why I make art.
This was very ahead of it’s time.
Extremely relevant in the context of Scorcese’s comments about superhero movies.
Mighty Mouse was A LOT older than "15 years" in 1988. THAT statement (3:24) must've been an error.
Probably meant 50.
Man, I miss those creator driven cartoons back 1990s and 2000s that Ralph Bakshi created mighty mouse: the new adventure created design for meansteam audience ispride creative world cartoon ispride by golden age of animantion.
It's still 2000s, dumbass. Will be until 3000.
Genndy and McCracken are still around making cartoon series. I hope you're supporting them.
@@MrParkerman6 dudes goin by decades so we technically are in 2020s rn
@@MrParkerman6 no, decline cartoon was begin 2010s because due Hollywood increases digital animation because due past 2007 great recession Hollywood lost Chuck good money due inflation their children channel like cartoon network or disney channel wanna produce cheap and safe their animated program Hollywood companies abandoned creator driven show changes story driven show because wanna cartoon to be safe hack, even character design most people hate today because due simplicity and cute look today animated series say 2000s because creator driven show are fresh die in 2007 ,that why internet hate Hollywood movies not because was "woke" or "SJWs reunited Hollywood " that bullshit, because Hollywood products are cheap nowadays both movies and television even worst today COVID 19 some their movies put service demand channel only because wanna cheap and why too many reboot movies and TV shows produce much Hollywood because their cheap Hollywood runs from people nowadays their by corporations their no original idea , don't say Hollywood was bad place to making movies and television good way great example disney and Pixar program produce great amazing animated movies by disney and Pixar thanks technology evolving CGI by decade lnoge time now became box success , sad part television need now , people respect animation.
John Kricfalusi moves on to the Beany & Cecil revival, after he work with Ralph Bakshi on the first season of Mighty Mouse: The New Adventures.
Bakshi is right. I grew up in the 80's and worshipped He-man, G.I Joe, Transformers etc. I watch them now and blatantly see what they were. Half- Hour commercials directed at selling merchandise. I watch a Looney Tunes cartoon from the 50's and laugh my ass off.
Yes, the 80's was the nadir of this.
We’ve still learned nothing and there are many cartoons made based on toys AND designed to sell toys
fritz the cat plushie would be nice
"Exploiting kids for profit is bad"
- probably no company ever
IMDb trivia says bakshi is the basis for comic book guy in the Simpsons. I don't see it
I can see the voice... nothing else
I see a lot of comments bringing up the fact that 80’s commercial cartoons kept studios afloat like that completely invalidates the points of artists in this video. Yeah, that’s cool that they did that, but artists still literally had no say in the cartoon, toy manufacturers did. Animators were treated worse than dogs while working on these shows & there was no room to experiment or make what was happening on screen interesting. And guess what? That got incredibly boring and it fucking died, giving rise to networks like Nickelodeon who advertised their shows as “creator-driven” which is now primarily the standard to this day. However, a point raised by the artists side in this video is primarily untrue. Artistically these shows lack a soul, but writing wise they are still enjoyed today (example: Transformers); that cheese has even become nostalgic for better or worse. There’s definitely an argument to be had regarding the rise and decline of 80’s animation, but I am pretty satisfied in where we are right now with creators in the directors chair.
Cartoons are garbage today with the shittiest plots imaginable. I could still watch 80s cartoons an feel good. All the shit that's out today is depressing and STUPID. What the fuck is a pokemon?
@@thedarkknight4956 it’s time to put you in the home old man
@@blunderabluez And you prove his point with your ageist bigotry.
@@Attmay their response about how they don’t like modern cartoons for no real reason is proven by me jokingly pointing out that they type like an old, senile man, incoherently rambling..? Kinda weird but ok :)
1:47-2:27 Yakko: (smooch at Matt Buskett)G’night ev’rybody!
Holy hell, Dr DeSoto hit something I had forgotten
I wore out the VHS tape of Bakshi's lord of the rings. I still know it line by line.
"And there sits our quest. If we had to bring a wizard at all, it should have been Saruman!" - "Be still, Boromir!"
@@SpacedCobraIII Gandalf, you old fool...
Melon!
Mighty Mouse is the first cartoon I remember seeing on tv. It was really weird.
Why?
Matt from Mattell is such a tool
Ralph Bakshi is the only reasonable person in this, since he was an innovator of his time, he presented something you couldn't get anywhere and thus his films were immensively popular in the 70s while Disney, still trying to do the same schtick over and over again, almost died in the 80s. and honestly that would've been too good to be true.
All I see is old people not only not being able to keep up with the times or respect the children's intelligence/freedom and use the GOVERNMENT to chastise the animation industry, say what you will about the vapid consumerism, these toys were keeping HUNDREDS of animation studios going, who would then do their own projects. The animation industry in the 1980's had actual variety to it, studios like Toei and TMS paved the way for high quality outsourced animation outside the Disney system and gave the world masterpieces of animation like Akira, Ghost in the Shell, so on. I don't even like anime that much but take one look at what children are drawing in their notebooks these days and you'll see who won the battle style-wise.
The real consequence of curbing animation studios from doing stuff like this was the eventual murder of 2D animation, which didn't even need to wait 10 years to take effect, but it makes sense, people with money hire animators to do a show for them, and if the show sells then then the toys sells, if the show sucks then the toys won't sell, there is a reason why Transformers lost a great deal of its audience after the 1986 Movie, the show's animation quality dropped, and the toys sucked.
I'm pretty sure all this was a plot by Disney to eliminate the competition who was absolutely destroying them in the 80s, Don Bluth was making films with an edge and soul and human identity they never dared put in their films and Transformers and GI Joe were capturing the imagination of the kids who would grow up to become Men, all this ''moralism'' and ''nice guy''-ry inlater kids shows ruined an entire generation, where their anchor for being good isn't God or Christianity, but motherfucking Disney movies, and now garbage like Steven Universe.
Isaac Baranoff 😐
@Fake News with Isaac Baranoff I haven't seen any of the recent MLP, but from what I can tell it was approached with the love of a fan rather than a cynical cash-grab. A lot of those cynical products from the 80s-90s can now be reworked into something positive by fans of those series who have a better understanding of what they were,
People don't need God or Christianity to be good.
Not all Disney movies are bad either and I'm never seen Steven Universe but from what I heard most people think it's a pretty good show that teaches some cool lessons,is funny and has a pretty cool visual style.
I didn't say they needed it, I'm just saying they're a much better north than a flawed show and mere products of a multi-billion corporation that is right now molding them to be suitable for show in China, a country with a murderous genocidal regime, made by an extremely corrupt industry filled with pedos, rapists and virtue-signallers who aren't even creative anymore, the problem is that if you're living in a godless society in which its customs are perverse, you're not going to know and you're going to be absorbed by the mob, and Jesus by proxy is the only one that can stand against the mob, you can still be good but you'd be oblivious to evil.
True when walt died disney died it's been running on nonsense ever sense now the company is a hollow shell of woke culture and cash grab remakes its gone.
He is half right. Making a cartoon to sell toys is diabolical but many hit cartoons then and now often sell merch/toys. There is even a demand for the merch once a series is popular.
based bakshi
Wow interesting. I don't see how it is actually harmful but never the less something interesting to consider.
Teenage mutant ninja turtles is based off a comic book though
Way to get some free might mouse plugz
Those cartoons didn't have any real violence esp heman, gimme a break
What does violence have to do with this?
Does Ralph Bakshi know "anime"?
Some of THESE shows they're talking about were by JAPANESE cartoonists, like Thundercats, GI Joe and Transformers.
@IanFindly-iv1nl those were cartoons whose animation was outsourced to Japan, I don't think that counts as anime.
I do think Ralph would know about Speed Racer, Star Blazers and Gigantor, those stood put because they weren't stale sugar coated cartoons like the ones in America
@@Hobo_Knight What about Battle of the Planets ("G FORCE!")?
And this, children, is why Cars is a terrible film franchise.
Cars is not a film made for toys. This has nothing to do with Cars.
He sounds like Jello Biafra if you put his voice through a pitch shifter
All very interesting to see but they're not telling you that as kids you never would have had these shows without the toy lines to make them commercially viable to produce in the 1st place.
For Bakshi to lay the claim in this that those cartoons were inherently made without love is just untrue if you've seen any sort of documentary material on the creation of almost any of the series mentioned. Also funny to hear from the guy who prided himself on working cheap.
Then to point towards Disney who's trying to win ratings and fill theme parks as some altruistic entity.
None of the points make any sense here for the most part in hindsight but it's an interesting time capsule.
Bakshi didn't seem to know what he was talking about, and neither did the reporter who said that Bakshi was bringing back sophistication to animation with his Mighty Mouse cartoon. Seriously, every one of those cartoons based on popular toylines was far more sophisticated both in terms of writing and animation. They were not just about selling toys, they were quality entertainment and oftentimes the writers found ways to mix in social commentary and/or some type of life lesson. I think that because Bakshi made movies like Fritz the Cat and Coonskin, everyone ended up assuming that he was some kind of socially conscious guru. This is s very fascinating story and a great example of how different things were 30+ years ago for reporters to have considered it a newsworthy story and politicians to have considered it something they could run for re-election on. But i believe Bakshi probably did this to persuade parents to have their children watch his show, instead of He-Man, Transformers, G.I. Joe, etc.
@@Supertron1 Admittedly, these shows were what was NEEDED at the time because like you said they brought back life lessons and decent writing. Not to mention they also brought back action and conflict which was eliminated in 70s cartoons when parents groups protested to take away violence. Hence why you see a lot of 70s American cartoons look cheap and atrocious because of the rules they had to follow to please parents.
@@gerawallstar3487 Exactly. The 80s saw the return of villains who were would-be tyrants bent on world domination, like Megatron, Cobra Commander, and Skeletor. These villains were portrayed as devious, cunning, and intelligent, posing a real threat to innocent people, which made the hero's victory over them meaningful. Like you said, censorship was strict in the 70s. Anything that came close to resembling real life conflict was pretty much forbidden, and so villains were always portrayed doing goofy things like dressing up as a ghost or a werewolf to force a stubborn property owner out of their home. These 80s action cartoons based on popular toylines were a breath of fresh air.
Bakshi made backwards cartoons like fritz the cat and talks about sophistication, PLEASE!
Of course, what they don’t tell you is that within the halls of Disney there was opposition still to the idea of doing cartoons for television. There was still no way they could uphold the same production standards they had for theatrical animation. But that argument must’ve fallen on deaf ears when *The Black Cauldron* turned into a money pit and *Gummi Bears* and *DuckTales* became hits.
80's was all about the cartoon selling the toy. But what's the difference between a Seasame Street Toy than a GI Joe, HeMan, Volltron, Transformers, Thundercats, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Power Rangers, etc toys? Maybe the toy industry with cartoons selling the product did become overwhelming with merchandising. But then on the other hand parents could've simply said "no" not today or meaning any other day like mine was famous for.
They were against shows that say "buy, buy, buy" but defend religions that say "pay, pay, pay
"... Hypocrites.
So back then they pushed toy sales in cartoons and today they push woke politics. Glad I grew up in the 80s. Great memories. No complaints. Love Bakshi, but this is much ado about nothing. There is no reason to look back on what we all loved with shame or embarrassment.
Bakshi sounds like Randy Newman