I love Bakshi's techniques, especially on Lord of the Rings, I only wish they let him finish it. And I hope that one day, we'll get to see the live-action footage, if it still exists.
@@Mythologos Well, I am currently working on some animated videos base on Scary Stories to Tell in he Dark, but they're mostly still-image videos. You can find them on my channel if you're interested.
People "ooh and aah" over Peter Jackson's films and rightfully so, but there's something so unique about Bakshi's film. Yes it's "animation" but it doesn't feel like an animated film. You can't compare it to any film before or since.
I think because Bakshi's version is so other worldly and occasionally abstract in it's execution. Jackson's is very "safe" and audience friendly by comparison. Flawed as it is, the Bakshi movie is an interesting piece of work.
@@SpacedCobraIIII totally agree. The inconsistencies of Bakshi's film is what I enjoy most about it Different types of animation and art to convey a certain feeling at any given time in the film. It keeps you intrigued. My only gripe is the music. It's very cliche "adventure" music. Bakshi originally wanted Led Zeppelin to score the film. Can you imagine?
Roto isn't "tracing". All the great masterpieces used Roto techniques - such as manuals, models, grids and even primitive "photography". You can't get that effect without reference.
Yes, Ralph has all of it. It's been requested for various DVD/Bluray releases but he says it's embarrassing and he doesn't want audiences to see the Tolkien characters in shots with cars and airplanes in the background of the shot etc. My holy grail of this film is a cut made up of story-boards and concept art with raw audio from the cast sessions coupled with a compilation of all the live action footage. I doubt it will ever happen.
@@Mythologos very cool! Thanks for the insight. I would love to see it personally. Even if it’s rough looking, it would be really great to see what a live action version from him could of looked like.
I don't think he was claiming to be the first to do rotoscoping though. He was referring to the fact that he shot an entire live action film and traced from that, which up until that point really hadn't been done before as far as I know
@@CornishCreamtea07 Most of Gulliver's Travels is pure toon. WTF are you talking about? Can't even compare. LOTR from Bakshi is all roto, or heavily processed live action.
I was first on line at my local theatre when this premiered. It was the first time that Tolkien's world was brought to life besides the Rankin Bass "Hobbit" cartoon which was more for children.
Actually, Jackson took many shots and scenes directly from Bakshi's version. For example, you could take a look at the early scene with the Nazgul on the road where the Hobbits hide under the tree.
@@DeadManSinging1 Shame you are too cynical to appreciate it. It is not terrible or cringeworthy. Peter Jackson actually owes more to Bakshi than to Tolkien himself.
I love Bakshi's techniques, especially on Lord of the Rings, I only wish they let him finish it. And I hope that one day, we'll get to see the live-action footage, if it still exists.
Bakshi's film was very financially successful. Too bad he didn't get to finish it. I think it took more out of him than he got back.
@@JoeyArmstrong2800 I agree with you both. He did a great job, damn shame for him n us that he didn't get to finish it
Bobbie is so cool. What a legend.
One of the greats!
If I ever get to make an animated or animation/live action hybrid movie, I want to make it the way Bakshi did.
It's quite easy now, compared to back then. You should just start doing it for the fun and experience - maybe you'll end up being an animator!
@@Mythologos Well, I am currently working on some animated videos base on Scary Stories to Tell in he Dark, but they're mostly still-image videos. You can find them on my channel if you're interested.
@3:16 Bakshi pokes the interviewers hands
Great interview. He's young and ambitious, reaching for something great. I don't understand why the interview is being so hostile.
eye-dazzling effective to this day
People "ooh and aah" over Peter Jackson's films and rightfully so, but there's something so unique about Bakshi's film. Yes it's "animation" but it doesn't feel like an animated film. You can't compare it to any film before or since.
I think because Bakshi's version is so other worldly and occasionally abstract in it's execution. Jackson's is very "safe" and audience friendly by comparison. Flawed as it is, the Bakshi movie is an interesting piece of work.
@@SpacedCobraIIII totally agree. The inconsistencies of Bakshi's film is what I enjoy most about it Different types of animation and art to convey a certain feeling at any given time in the film. It keeps you intrigued. My only gripe is the music. It's very cliche "adventure" music. Bakshi originally wanted Led Zeppelin to score the film. Can you imagine?
I like to people to be on the defensive. This is soo great
N he def was lol
Roto isn't "tracing". All the great masterpieces used Roto techniques - such as manuals, models, grids and even primitive "photography". You can't get that effect without reference.
Does any of the live action footage exist?
Yes, Ralph has all of it. It's been requested for various DVD/Bluray releases but he says it's embarrassing and he doesn't want audiences to see the Tolkien characters in shots with cars and airplanes in the background of the shot etc. My holy grail of this film is a cut made up of story-boards and concept art with raw audio from the cast sessions coupled with a compilation of all the live action footage. I doubt it will ever happen.
@@Mythologos very cool! Thanks for the insight. I would love to see it personally. Even if it’s rough looking, it would be really great to see what a live action version from him could of looked like.
“It’s never been done before” seems like a bit of a stretch... animators have been tracing and using live-action references for a century.
I don't think he was claiming to be the first to do rotoscoping though. He was referring to the fact that he shot an entire live action film and traced from that, which up until that point really hadn't been done before as far as I know
@@walidamin1804 I think he meant the scale too, I mean he is adapting the Lord of the Rings.
Like Gulliver's Travels 1939.
@@CornishCreamtea07 Most of Gulliver's Travels is pure toon. WTF are you talking about? Can't even compare. LOTR from Bakshi is all roto, or heavily processed live action.
I love Bakshi but he's doing a sleepy Joe 😂
Tolkien was the source for Jackson’s Lord of the Rings; Bakshi was his imaginary Influence.
I was first on line at my local theatre when this premiered. It was the first time that Tolkien's world was brought to life besides the Rankin Bass "Hobbit" cartoon which was more for children.
Actually, Jackson took many shots and scenes directly from Bakshi's version. For example, you could take a look at the early scene with the Nazgul on the road where the Hobbits hide under the tree.
@@sphtpfhorbrains3592 Except unlike in the Bakshi film, the Nazgul scene isn't terrible and cringe inducingly awkward
@@DeadManSinging1 Shame you are too cynical to appreciate it. It is not terrible or cringeworthy. Peter Jackson actually owes more to Bakshi than to Tolkien himself.
@@DeadManSinging1 The terms "cringe inducing" and "awkward" say more about you than Bakshi's animation masterpiece.