It's all the graphic eq stuff I cant stand, I focus too much on the visuals and then don't understand why it doesn't sound good. Knobs make me listen to the actual sound which always comes out better for me
The ox stomp does not include the cabs/mics that come with the UAFX Dream and Ruby. I’m hoping UA can update the Ox for the price. The Ox also does not let you pass a stereo signal unless you hard pan the two microphone models. I feel like that’s just lazy porting of their old software onto this new device without updating when it could be stereo.
To me this is a perfect solution, I either use a modeler or real amp with a reactive load for the amp sound and a big pedalboard. IRs obviously sound great, just like the ox sounds great, but IRs are such a huge waste of time, I have hundreds of them and it's annoying to pick one every time I change something in my signal path or want a different sound.
Does the OX Stomp contain any power amp simulation? Or are you just going from the preamp (synergy module) straight to speaker simulations here with no power amp simulated in the chain?
Would this work using it in tandem with the built-in CabClone in my Mesa Triple Crown? The CabClone sounds abysmal on its own, but when pairing it with a better IR in my DAW, it can sound amazing.
One of the "problems" (subjective) is it's missing power amp emulation. Might need an amp that has a line level out that is tapping the power amp or a power amp emulation in front of it.
@@deanopie4390 exactly, for instance the (whether you like it or not is subjective) the Two Notes CabM has power amp emulation. But as well, for this pedal it would probably be best to feed it with a load box line out so you get that power amp reaction. Of course that might only give a hair of difference tbh over just throwing a preamp in front of it. Either works. It would have been nice for UA to at least give an option for it, unless it's already there and they just didn't specify.
I could see them coming out with a power amp emulator at some point. With all the pre amp pedals available and the ox stomp being speaker cabs etc. there's a place for power amp emulation.
The OX Stomp is a lot more dynamic and alive sounding than IRs. An IR is essentially a snapshot of the sound whereas the OX Stomp, just like the OX Amp Top Box, is a detailed physical model of cabinets, microphones and the room that covers everything from a whisper into speaker distortion and artifacts like cone cry.
Could you run this in the effects loop of an amp….send of loop to effects, from effects to the ox stomp….thought ox back to amp, XLR on ox to the sound man ?
Feels kinda outdated tbh, a device that's intended to be used into monitors given its a cabsim but most people use a PC with said monitors which would mean theyd have access to a crazy amount of cabsims on their PC
You're assuming that no one would ever want to use cab sims of this quality outside the house. I haven't gigged with an actual amp in years at this point, but the Achille's heel of a lot of "everything in one box" amp modelers/ multi-fx units, are the cab sims. While I would have preferred MIDI control, this thing solves that problem nicely.
Great pedal in concept, but a poor reality in final execution. No desktop app, no sale. Sorry UA. I mean this should've have easily been one of the top 3 best homerecording products released this year, but the fact that you have to run this thing through your phone just to get all its full functionality was a boneheaded decision on UA's part to say the least.
And the fact he didn´t mute his mic so that you can hear a bit of the string noise coming through lets you believe there would be audible attack in this fizzy mush of guitar tone.
There's something to be said about physical buttons and knobs. There are times all the touch screen stuff are maddening to use.
It's all the graphic eq stuff I cant stand, I focus too much on the visuals and then don't understand why it doesn't sound good. Knobs make me listen to the actual sound which always comes out better for me
The ox stomp does not include the cabs/mics that come with the UAFX Dream and Ruby. I’m hoping UA can update the Ox for the price. The Ox also does not let you pass a stereo signal unless you hard pan the two microphone models. I feel like that’s just lazy porting of their old software onto this new device without updating when it could be stereo.
I was just wondering how this would sound with the synergy 6505 module , and boom this video appeared. 👍🏽
To me this is a perfect solution, I either use a modeler or real amp with a reactive load for the amp sound and a big pedalboard. IRs obviously sound great, just like the ox sounds great, but IRs are such a huge waste of time, I have hundreds of them and it's annoying to pick one every time I change something in my signal path or want a different sound.
No headphone jack. Odd choice. It's a no for me for that reason. Maybe generation 2.
Does the OX Stomp contain any power amp simulation? Or are you just going from the preamp (synergy module) straight to speaker simulations here with no power amp simulated in the chain?
Would this work using it in tandem with the built-in CabClone in my Mesa Triple Crown? The CabClone sounds abysmal on its own, but when pairing it with a better IR in my DAW, it can sound amazing.
One of the "problems" (subjective) is it's missing power amp emulation. Might need an amp that has a line level out that is tapping the power amp or a power amp emulation in front of it.
Of course it’s missing power amp emulation. This is literally and only a collection of speaker cabinets, mics and some basic effects.
I think odie5268 is talking about the signal being fed into the pedal… not the pedal itself
@@deanopie4390 exactly, for instance the (whether you like it or not is subjective) the Two Notes CabM has power amp emulation.
But as well, for this pedal it would probably be best to feed it with a load box line out so you get that power amp reaction. Of course that might only give a hair of difference tbh over just throwing a preamp in front of it. Either works. It would have been nice for UA to at least give an option for it, unless it's already there and they just didn't specify.
@@odie5268 if UA would've done that there would be a conflict of interests between the OX Stomp and the OX Box
I could see them coming out with a power amp emulator at some point. With all the pre amp pedals available and the ox stomp being speaker cabs etc. there's a place for power amp emulation.
So do not run it into the front inputs of my DR Tonemaster? First time i have heard that and i have watched a dozen videos about this pedal.
What’s the consensus is this better than any IR available today?
I’m not really seeing much benefits between this and an ir loader pedal lol
Not at all. It´s a good product, but overpriced and lacking of features (Like headphones out or XLR out)
Ok so the $16 “XR” ir I bought last week should outperform this $400 speaker sim good to know
The OX Stomp is a lot more dynamic and alive sounding than IRs. An IR is essentially a snapshot of the sound whereas the OX Stomp, just like the OX Amp Top Box, is a detailed physical model of cabinets, microphones and the room that covers everything from a whisper into speaker distortion and artifacts like cone cry.
@@robmcgaughey1938 That´s what their ad is saying. But is that really what it comes down to in a real life comparison?
Do I connect to my Apollo like an amp sim ?
Almost all except the load box...and the attenuator, and the headphone amp, and the digital output, and the iPad graphical interface
Really looking hard at this and trying to decide if it's worth the extra $50 vs the Engl box that seems to be functionally VERY similar.
Engl is not a same thing!This device more flexible and sounds better 100%!
Proper Desktop App plus digital Out would have sold it to me - so I‘ll have to stick with my regular OX Box
Could you run this in the effects loop of an amp….send of loop to effects, from effects to the ox stomp….thought ox back to amp, XLR on ox to the sound man ?
I wonder if it would sound any good at the end of the Fx loop
Feels kinda outdated tbh, a device that's intended to be used into monitors given its a cabsim but most people use a PC with said monitors which would mean theyd have access to a crazy amount of cabsims on their PC
You're assuming that no one would ever want to use cab sims of this quality outside the house. I haven't gigged with an actual amp in years at this point, but the Achille's heel of a lot of "everything in one box" amp modelers/ multi-fx units, are the cab sims. While I would have preferred MIDI control, this thing solves that problem nicely.
@@notonyourlife7939 well, you've changed my opinion, didn't think of that
No bass cabs?
Not yet
Awesome video!!!
Can you load irs in to it ?
Directly from Dropbox if you want to, yep
Meh, i lost interest as soon as i heard that it doesn't have a load feature.
i would think that would be put in the loop
nope
This is weird ngl
Great pedal in concept, but a poor reality in final execution. No desktop app, no sale. Sorry UA. I mean this should've have easily been one of the top 3 best homerecording products released this year, but the fact that you have to run this thing through your phone just to get all its full functionality was a boneheaded decision on UA's part to say the least.
In this demo the combination of amp sim and cab sim sounds lousy for lack of a better word. Sorry, but it's a no like and no buy for me
UAD. make. this. a. plug-in…
Plzzz… 😅
That would be awsome!
this guys tones as fizzy as a can of sprite
I thought it sounded good.
It would be interesting to include room sound. Maybe the monitors sound more realistic.
And the fact he didn´t mute his mic so that you can hear a bit of the string noise coming through lets you believe there would be audible attack in this fizzy mush of guitar tone.
you need to take out your big stinky foot out of the intro, it drives people away from your videos
I disagree, I come here for the big stinky foot and stay for the demo
what do you mean, everyone loves feet
The big stinky foot? Tell that to Monty Python. 😆
@@jmtrainz2582 I hate them.