Did Wheel Of Time Season 2 ABANDON The Books?!
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
- The Character Sheet is back with more TTRPG and Fantasy news as we look at the first 3 episodes of The Wheel of Time season 2, and the massive departures the fantasy series makes from Robert Jordan's novels in these initial episodes. From completely dropped, major plot lines, to completely invented plotlines that put characters like Mat and Rand in massive plot holes for later events...we'll breakdown just where the show has veered away from The Wheel of Time novels...and what can be done to get it back on track, if anything!
So from scrapped plot thread, botched main storylines, and completely invented episodes, lets see just how far from the novels season 2 of The Wheel of time has strayed!
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Egwene standing up to a male forsken and holding her own had me rethinking the main charecter
The first season abandoned the books...
Good the first books are pretty mid. Also they were never gonna be a 1 to 1 adaption. Idk why anyone ever expected that. It’s wayyy to big to adapt anywhere close to 1 to 1.
I was hoping they would change more in season 1 tbh, and I’m glad they tried but their changes ended up being just as bad as the stuff in book 1. The ending of book 1 is ridiculous and pointless. The show got that theme right at least 😂 but season 2 has improved drastically and it’s so much better.
Better as in it’s becoming a good show, if you only want replication of the books then ya prob not for you.
@@TheJordanK nobody expects a 1:1 adaptation, just something that isn't hot garbage.
Really, cause I actually enjoyed it
Hard to abandon something you never even started with
You're hitting the nail on the head
I came here to say this.
This, the _only_ explanation that even comes close is a friend said he thinks of them as one of the other spinnings of the wheel, like the stuff Rand saw when he did the portal but I can't get behind them even with that because they are so incredibly bad, they are just corny and feel like something that should have been on CW
I’m actually enjoying S2 much more than S1.
It’s because season one was so bad. Season 2 was unquestionably a jump in quality and in storytelling. Not to mention the story is now further along, with season one being all about revealing the dragon in a very very slow pace which they actually tried mimicking the books in that regard but not on everything else. But in season 2 they embraced that they’ve lost that opportunity and went on to say “no its an adaptation and we will not be completely faithful, that ship has sailed, kind of ending of game of thrones “ and even already ordered a season 3
Yeah season 2 bangs somehow
I do agree that season 2 is doing way better. I can't exactly back this up, but my gut is telling me that it's turning out to be a bit(!) closer to the books than season 1
Agreed, I actually am attatched to characters now...
Same these clips are seriously annoying
“And at the end of every life, as he lay dying, as he drew his final breath, a voice whispered in his ear. I have won again, Lews Therin. Flicker."
The Dark One has won this turning it seems
Chills...
Indeed, I am inclined to believe that this show is just an alternative universe where the Dark One is winning at the end
Idk why they’d abandon the original story. I know there are constraints, ie books being too long for a tv show with only 9ep a season however it’s a similar situation as the Witcher. They were handed a brick of gold and instead said “nah we can do better” and in the attempt to make diamonds they turned it into copper. In the process loosing part of the hard core fan base. Nonetheless it’s still awesome to see a live action remake of the books I grew up reading. I pray they don’t mess up the top tier books like “lord of chaos or knife of dreams.”
Also where tf did Rands hair go? He’s never had a shaved head wtf! 😢
The show is a different turning of the wheel than in the books they said in interviews. Because of how elaborate the books are it would be way to expensive and some stuff just impossible to put on screen so they just made it a different turning of the wheel. With this information I was able to enjoy the show soooo much more
What annoys me more than anything is that I actually think the show is cast well! They are not only wasting the books but a good cast. I understand things need adapting but FFS do it like Peter Jackson did for LOTR not like this.
Egwyane is a god awful actress for that particular role. She is bankrupt of the inner strength and life experience to play such a character. Probably incredible at some high society person who has also never suffered in their life before. Lan is a god awful actor as well and is an abominable influence upon Rand, who copies his mega cringe narcissistic-controlled voice. Speak like a fucking person or learn to act.
Most of the other characters are good, though not one is impressive except for Matt (not the s2 one; his recast was really a dagger to the heart for s2.
Lanfear and Liandrin are the best, with Moiraine's sister being unmatched #1.
Do you want all of them to be white?, just curious.
The cast is fine. Get a grip. Dont blame them for whatever is happening to script. Nobody (except you) wants to see a beige out cast. Yawn
Wow. Instantly wanna call the dude racist and say he wants them all white cos he thinks the cast is bad.
The cast of the wheel of time is bad.
The characters in the books provide huge diversity. The whole world contains a multitude of races.
Firstly, the poster of this thread said he thought the casting (of the show) was good. Secondly, the book is definitely not diverse in looks. Every other person has blue eyes, and there is an overabundance of blondes. Not quite reflective of the current world population.
The show seems much better in s2. The books are so numerous if they ever want a resolution they would need to combine and shift. Obviously they had to address the Matt situation but so far I’m actually pretty content.
It isn’t better it is worse.
@@TheLoneGamr I mean I saw it. It was better.
@insertname5371 I agree. They also said that Matt wasn't supposed to abandon in season one. The actor had to quit for family ressons and they used editing and old footage to fake that scene. So they are trying to fix it in this season.
@@TheLoneGamr S2 is definitely an improvement over S1
Why did they pair Mat with Min tho? Min falls in love with Rams in book 2. She was there in book 2 with Egwene and Elayne. She’s nowhere near them now. That annoys me the most.
They abandoned the books on day one. The only part even remotely connected to the books is the TITLE. It's already obvious that it should have been named "What the Wheel of Time Would Have Been if it Was Written by a Lesbian who hated the book"
Not one aspect or character is anything like the characters places or events in Robert Jordan's book.
Wah wah
What's all this about a lesbian? Is it because they took the inplication in the books that Moiraine and Siuane were lovers and made it just plain and in the open?
I ended season one angry. I went into season two refreshed after a long time of not seeing it and having largely forgotten season 1. I dropped season 2 after episode 1 because they've fucked up literally everything. It's a dogshit show. Don't give Amazon your money. Listen to the audiobook
are we going to forget about the plot holes not even related to the books like how loyal came waltzing in to have breakfast with Perrin like nothing's amiss after getting stabbed with a FRIGGIN CURSED DAGGER in the first season
Loial gets stabbed with a the dagger from shaddar logath ? Are you well ?
I’m hoping this doesn’t cause the show to get cancelled 😭😭😭😭
I didn’t read the books and I am LOVING everything about it. I’m itching for season 3 already
You’re the problem
@@ThePeanutTurkeyLeg oh whatever 🤦♀️
I hope for all you book readers sake they do a remake in the future but I love these actors and it would awful to take it all away from them
I hate how much they have strayed away from the books and that the wheel of time fans will never get a good adaptation ever because no one is going to remake this in our lifetime. But for people who don't read the books and are enjoying it ignore the gatekeepers have fun with the show. I really hope they finish it so people can enjoy some of the story I've come to love and enjoy!
I hope they get into Rand's sword training in the next season, since it's such a major part of his character in the books.
First thing amazon and their showrunner Rafe judkins cut were RAND'S BALLS...
Amazon's Wheel of Time abandoned the books in season 1. What can you say about the hubris of someone who thinks he can write a better story than the one that is so popular he's being paid to make a TV series from it?
They did Mat dirty here in my opinion. Mat is one of my favorite character in the wheel of time.. I like him better than Perrin. Mat is a ta'veren right?? So why is he captive and do who knows what?? And Min having sight of him stabbing on Rand.. ?? What? 🤷♀️🤷♀️
But yeah... Im enjoying the show despite that.. It was season 1 that made me finally read the book and im on book 11 now.. Haha
If you noticed when (spoiler) those guys showed up with the horn in the end, there was absolutely no pay off with that. The show either ran out of time or decided it wasn't necessary to show the good guys stealing the horn back. Nope, it would just be there when they needed it.
One of those figures has a huge story arc to come, and was mentioned by name in the previous season by the farm girl that got killed.
Her doll was named after one of those figures.
some places and events have been omitted or switched round but anyone who knows the books understands that is is the characters that matter, Rands time comes later so he is a bit vague in this season but the others are well covered and with a few niggles here and there, very well done. the lore behind the magic has been left vague and the series bends the rules to get the story into 8 episodes, if they really want to nail it in season 3, make it 10 episodes
Imagine all series being exactly like a book. What’s the point to watch then. When u know everything what’s going to happen 😂😂 I don’t care about the books. Love the season 2 🤯🤯🤯🤯
Honestly, this season has had way more scenes from the books from the first season. Granted there are a few major differences, which there has to be, but overall this season is better in almost every aspect. From the colored weaves, to scenes out of the book but tweaked, and the actors are portraying their characters extremely well imo. I’m a diehard book fan and I’m loving it so far, and I couldn’t stand season 1.
Bars
Getting PTSD from the Witcher here.
Not every turning of the wheel is the same. Maybe this 3rd age is different from the previous 3rd age depicted in the books. Similar but slightly different.
I’ve been reading the books for 20 years and tbh i adore the show! Yeah it’s not following the books exactly but that would be impossible to do in a reasonable length of time! Also so much of some of the middle books is filler imo so it’s fine with me if they make changes
Thank you, most people forget that the wheel of time should honestly have been a 6/7 book series at most .. and that half of the books were actually unnecessary and could've be surmised .
It’s still wild to me that One Piece, the wacky zany off the wall story with Pratchett levels of weirdness has a more fun and faithful adaptation than Wheel of Time, The Witcher or Rings of Power. The times we live in man.
Well, Rings literally couldn't have because Amazon doesn't have the rights to the Simarillion
@@ganymeade275yeah, and even with the appendice rights, there’s no real narrative in the 2nd age. It requires they fill in gaps, so even though what we got was iffy, it’s not comparable to this situation.
What the others said plus OP's author is still alive and played a major part into keeping the series close to the source material.
I think it’s because they believe that they won’t really have the time to continue on so there just going from what the books are like and making it into their own but still keeping some of the books there
How Rand becomes a heron bladed sword master without training from Lan will be an unsolvable mystery
He is not. And the series never said he was.
@mateussantana1291 in the series ? He killed turak with magic in the series. What are you saying. In the books it wasn't until book 5 ( fires of heaven) that Lan says he can now almost be worthy of that blade. Turak assumed he was a blade master because of the blade, he was disappointed after he and rand began fighting. Stop trying to mislead people who haven't read the book with head cannon.
@mateussantana1291 in gathering storms rand explains to nynaeve why killing turak doesn't make him a blade master. You need witnesses in a proper duel to be made a blade master.
Made it to the end of s1e1 and decided it wasn't worth watching
Season 2 is considerably better. If you only want to see replication of what you read however, then it’s prob not for you.
Imo it’s become every enjoyable to see what they do to try and get to the major plot points. It’s all a different path than the books but you can recognize the path they make can reach the same destination. Some of it is very impressive and better than parts of the book IMO and others I’m having a lot of fun laughing at for how bad they are.
They have improved immensely from season 1, but for me at least each episode has 1 or 2 sequences that are pretty yikes. 😂 but mostly it’s been really good.
Who cares? Just watch something else. I never understand why fans of books get mad about fictional media. You can pretend it never existed, and it changes nothing. Honestly, I think they complain so that people know they read the books because they finally have something "relevant" to say.
Show is garbage. Poor script, 90's SciFi channel-level CGI, hilariously lazy plot holes. I feel bad for the actors, all that work to land a role in a major adaptation and the director just shits all over the source material with their own mediocre take.
Rand in the books does not sleep with any of the characters he slept with in the tv series lol
He's only slept with Lanafear and Egwene...
@@ndo533 Excatly my point, which he hasn't slept with either in the books.
@@stekner241083 he never slept with Egwene in two rivers?
not in the books. only in the tv adaption.@@ndo533
Things that were cut in S2: logic, good writing
I didn’t read the books so…I’m just enjoying the show.😂
Not a book reader but the audiobook for volume one is over 30 hours compared to half that for other novels. They gotta cut something!! Jordan was like, I gotta put everything and the kitchen sink in. Every kick of the lips or sigh … y’all have my sympathies but s2 was fun and I will watch more. S1 was not so good but I still came back.
" moving from the books ", just when the show looks like its finally going along with the books plot.
Yeah ? You still think that after the finale
@@madmartigan8119 nope xd
Rafe is the dark one.
Rafe finally broke the wheel.
He's more like Padain Fain.
There were many moments that felt like characters were being reworked, and the timeline and plot pulled apart. They were, but only in the service of the story. True, this doesn't quite line up with all the details of the books, but it gets the characters and the plot spot on (even if it doesn't feel like it for a moment in the middle).
When I read The Wheel of Time, I always hoped it would make it to screen, but was certain it wouldn't be possible. Too much of the original happens in thoughts and hopes and fears. That is why some parts had to be reworked. That's why Moiraine's arc skews so widely from the book. It had to, in order to do justice to the character and the thoughts and growth of mine and will that was the subject of half the book.
The efforts in this series are worthy of study to learn how to make a screen adaptation of a cerebral plot.
I've never been a fan before, but I'm now a loyal fan of this series. They are doing it right. Those who say otherwise probably can't see the forest for the trees. If they finish the book series they have a chance to outpace LOTR for the next generation, and become legend for decades.
I don't like certain aspects of the show, including some ham-handed "woke" stuff, but even though the plot isn't following the books very closely, season 2 has started to feel more like the world that Robert Jordan created and for that reason alone, I am still watching.
Also, looking at some of comment here, it seems like everyone thinks that they somehow know and have experience in how TV shows work. You (or I) may not like some (or many) of the choices being made, but I think that a degree of lenience should be made in regards to the process of setting up storylines that will pay off later and draw viewers into the world who would possibly be lost if a more straight-forward adaption were attempted.
(Of course, with that being said, the Lan storyline in season 2 and the warder-centric episode in season 1 were largely a waste of time and could have been used to fit more of the books into the show.)
It went woke 🤷🏻♂️ let’s just be honest. Robert Jordan gave immaculate detail to what these characters looked like, and how their cultures were….completely abandoned to be politically correct. It’s still a good show, but it’s not Robert Jordan’s wheel of time. That is sad
It's a tall order trying to adapt 14 long books into a reasonable number of seasons, assuming they're lucky enough to finish.
Definitely the best episode so far, season 2 is starting to shape up. Theres still quite a bit of stuff that i think hasnt been earned, but we're starting to actually get some quality writing and more towards the books which is really exciting!
What’s cut next? Season 3 hopefully
😅😅no man
Prob most of book 3, then I think we can fully expect to lose most if not all of books 7-10. Besides a few big points they will prob cut those for sure.
They have to cut ALOT. It’s literally impossible to do it all. Same with characters. It’s just not possible to avoid so it’s a matter of finding the ones you can merge with others, or cutting those who may be loved by everyone but in the end don’t really affect the major plot points or endings. Like Gaul for example, he’s my favorite Aeil, but you can cut him and it’s not going to change much at all.
So if you can’t accept this stuff you should probably not watch the show.
Reportedly, after this season, the protagonists are left at points in their story where it's possible to adapt book 4 in season 3 more or less close to the book
@@TheJordanKyeah I agree. From the start we knew that the show will be around 8 seasons of 8 episodes. That is insanely low to adapt 14 huge books. As long as they keep major plot points and characters and tie it up so that it makes sense it can be a good adaptation I believe.
So trash it for those who enjoy the show because it doesn't live up to your standards.
As a die hard fan I might actually be happy if theh kepp on increasing the quality as it happened from season 1 to season 2. Many things to be fixed, VFX not being the last, but yep they can make something good out of it. They just need more episodes
I hope during the season 3, we have Rhuidean and the disparition of Moiraine into the Ter'angreal..
I hope so too,
I can live with cuts - adaptation from one medium (books) to another (tv) requires consolidation, streamlining, and reordering. When it's done well, like the LotR movies, you almost can't remember what was cut. However, Character is STORY. When you fundamentally change characters, relationships, and most crucially their motivations, you are no longer telling the same story. Now, whether this show is good or not is a separate question from whether it's a good adaptation of the books. But, they've clearly abandoned RJ's story in favor of telling whatever story they've decided to tell.
Yeah I loved the series and I tend to rewatch stuff on repeat a lot and since re-watching it I feel like half the story is missing and I've never even read the books or knew of them before the series, I'm just into shoes like this. But yeah the more I watched I felt like I've missed half the context but it's just not in it.
I think I read somewhere they’re cutting it down to potentially 5 seasons. So, I’m all ears if you can tell me how they’re supposed to fit 14? long books into 5 seasons without butchering a hell of a lot of stuff….
Personally, I’m enjoying the ride and I like how they reunited the group to end season 2.
Didn't read the books, don't care. So far I've really enjoyed it.
I’m a big fan of the books (reread various books over a dozen times over the years until the series culmination), I’ve respectfully refrained from criticizing the show, because the show runner spelled out his plan for better or worse prior to the series. Just two thoughts: 1) They’re not really pressed for time if they keep adding filler material in both seasons; 2) Episodes 3 & 4 of season 2 are what I’d hoped to see (nothing to do with plot), the wheel of time . Hopefully, it’ll continue and give the characters more purpose, regardless of their motivations
I understand what you mean but it is precisely because they are pressed for time that they have to add seemingly random plot. Because they have to compress two books in one season (plus deal with the split up of all characters from s1) they have to fuck around with the plot and make it make sense.
Definitely feel like they are taking the books a just suggested material. It's honestly very frustrating. Makes me not want to watch it cause they completely just leave out very important parts character building and honestly I feel like they completely screwed up the casting. I mean not sure if it's just me but it's nothing like how I imagined it. All in all I feel like it's all just been so rushed like completing a school project you had 3months to do and you complete it the night before it's due and the everyone can tell. Sad to say it makes me wish I would of watched the show completely before I read all the books...
Truthfully
It’s skipping 😢
I Really don't like what they are doing with mat completely different character from the books. I tried to give it the benefit of the doubt just my luck that they completely change my favorite character for the worse
But it's still dope
The scene when Rand stands up to Siuan would give tooo much strong male energy for this show’s creators.
like how a stilled aes sedai can kill a fade with a dagger and Lan couldn't... they're going out of their way to belittle any strong male role. They even got rid of Gaul in the 5th episode?!?
It’s literally in the next episode 😂
@@joshmiller902ya Lan parts were bad, I’ve been loving most of the show, but there’s 1 or 2 storylines that should have been scrapped to make room for others that are working.
Lan and Moiraine are barley even in book 2 so they gotta create something very much from scraps, I just hope Lan being sad for a dozen scenes is setting up a payoff at least by the end of the season. I will feel slightly better if they pay it off somehow.
@@joshmiller902Lan kills two of them in the same fight?
@@leonardschubert3897 no, the mis-representation of Alanna comes to the rescue. I’m all for altering stories in order to fit a more streamlined tv format. But in a series that already has such strong female leads… why belittle all the equally strong male leads. That’s what the entire series is about, the unity of men and women users of the power.
Lan and Matt’s characters are an embarrassment with no direction. Whiny, sad, and useless versions of two of the most loved characters in the entire series.
I didn't read the books and so can't say much about the story line but I'd like to know what the hell is up with ninieve, i mean she showed potential in S1 but is almost completely useless in this season,like what the hell
In the books it's pretty much the same.. she continues having this issue for several books..
The show us alright. I never read any of the books. much better than that new Wiliow disaster. i hope for season 3 they bring back those werewolf things from episode 1. those things were pretty cool.
amazon also seems to insist on not treating Rand as the main character of the series
This show is a mockery of those books,the show centres around rand al thor but season 2 the protagonist feels more like a supporting character.
I tapped out after season one. Hope we get a decent animated version someday.
Well I never read books so it's an awesome show for me but without prior knowledge of matt I did think his character was off nm the face swap
it just blows my mind you have 14 books and decide to rewrite the adaptation. Its not bad but I wish it was more faithful to the books
These episode include only 1 scene from the books, and that was a fade stuck to a door.
Season 2 is an absolute masterpiece. The director and writers for the show encapsulate what makes the books good while formatting it to a viewable, episodic experience.
Bullshit.
I am a huge fan of the books, but I have to admit that I really enjoy this adaptation. There are a few things I wish they had kept in place, but for the most part, I think the series is awesome.
It's just really bad writing. They start the season pretending like certain things that happened in season 1 never happened and they shaved out several awesome moments and replaced them with melodrama. I get not being able to do everything but at least try to do justice to what you attempt. Almost like the writers never read the books and instead just skimmed a plot summary or had a drunk friend retell it by memory.
Logain is taking Asmodean's place?
I stopped mid first season mainly cause the show runners don’t care about the books
There is 14 massive books. They won't get 14 seasons, there has to changes.
Does there have to be significant additions to such a large series you are trying to condense?
No one is saying there shouldn't be changes. The changes they made are terrible.
I can not watch any of it after the first episode. This is a disgrace
As one who has read the books....it's horseshit
Season 2 has been far better, especially the last few episodes. I’m enjoying it quite a bit. I read the books. Lots of changes were necessary to make a tv adaptation work. They are limited to 8 episodes per season and they can’t make 20 seasons of this show. They just can’t.
I just love this excuse.
They don't have time to show everything. So they will just spend half the season on entirely made up plotlines and characters.
@@IamVendel god just get over yourself. Or stop watching. Go read the books again. It’s fine. You’ll be fine.
@4Thessia just get to the next cope stage where you tell us how things had to change because RJ was "problematic".
@@IamVendel oh I get it now. You’re one of those “wheel of time more like Wheel of woke amirite” nerds. The changes are just an excuse. Go climb back under your rock. You don’t have to watch the show.
@@4Thessia Oh I'm sorry, are you on the despondence path? Where you tell people this is the only thing we will get so we have to support it?
My mistake.
I just listened to the first book read by Rosamund Pike. As a narrator she seems to get the books and the story so much better than the show.
Cast, directing, and writing is mid. I tried to stick with it, but couldn't keep Watching after Se 2 ep 3. Hope amazon doesn't touch stormlight archive.
Book purists are screaming their heads off, and frankly I don't care. The books dragged on and on forever, made me hate some of the major characters, and went off on extended boring side stories. The Amazon show is cleaner and keeps me interested, all while changing things up enough that I don't know what is going to happen next. I love it.
I didn't start 2nd. Season should I?
It’s intense and really fast paced. Action is next level and so is the acting
IDK about the books, but the show is great. Just finished season 2 and I'm here for all of it!!
I love the show ❤🎉
This isnt wheel of time. It may be similar but its nothing like the books
Someone doesn’t understand the wheel turns different every time
i wish they would keep closer to the books even that the last episode was great imo
Anyone that claims this show is good has no respect for the books story or the author. The author that laid on his death bed and made sure that HIS notes were so detailed it made three books worth of literature. So his fans would have an ending to his story that was beautifully crafted and thought out. These show runners and anyone that claims this is a good adaption disrespect his final days. As the show doesn't even follow the spirit of the books at all or understand any of the relationships between the characters.
That is one TV series I won't bother to watch. The books are so much better than any Hollywood Woke Festival remix that ignores an artists lifes work for the sake of money.
I see reviews like this and stay convinced I'll be so confused by the plots of the show, I won't be able to enjoy it.. so I'm staying off of it. This movie era of fantasy adaptations is so exciting.. but not so much for people like me who've read the books prior and loved the lore & story first (asoiaf
, lotr, wot etc.) I get why there's need to cut out and edit some parts.. but to add an entire new storyline.. that's going to be more tricky. The core story relies on the journey not the conclusions... if you alter the journey you risk altering the core story no matter the finale (GoT is perfect example).
Watching this won't take the books away from you. I only read them once and generally understand the struggle with bad adaptations (ERAGON! 😭) nonetheless, I think this is good enough
Frankly I think at this point it's better for it to just be it's own thing. The first season was a fairly radical departure anyhow. Trying to stick true to the original story would pretty much be impossible. So why not do your own thing? It's a story inspired by The Wheel of Time more than an adaptation of The Wheel of Time. And I think that's fine.
This show is absolute trash. Shame because the books are fantastic. Why stick to what worked when you can burn the good will of an entire fan base and lose the interest of the rest.
Eh book 1 is pretty bad, especially the ending. Book 2 is my third least favorite. I think some of the things they’ve done have been much better than what’s in the books, and some not so much. The story really picks up end of book 3 and I to book 4 IMO. Then the series starts to become fantastic.
So I thought they did pretty well adapting book 1 ending by also being pretty ridiculous and just bad 😂 I thought the Rand vs Ishy at the end was miles better than the books. But the girls killing PS2 trollocs and then having another death fake out and miracle cure by Egwene? Jesus that part was embarassing to watch
It actually really sucks, as Simone who re-read the series before each new book.. the liberal …….stretching of lines is irritating as fuck. The two rivers is a melting pot of different types of people, an the damn blue eyed aiel………is somehow African, while being described as…….basically Irishmen…… so whiter then your dough, and blue eyed….. like a European……I thinks that’s the most irritating part. Different cities in Robert Jordan’s world represented different cultures…….also seanchan warriors are supposed to look like bugs. Not monsters.
The only character they nailed is the daughter hair
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If you are still expecting this to be super accurate the books you haven’t thought much about this adaption. It’s literally impossible to stay accurate to the books. 14 books 1000 words each 2000+ characters and you got 7-8 seasons of 8 episodes each.
You can’t tell a good story at all on screen if you don’t change a shit ton. Ya it’s sucks but if anyone was actually hoping for a 1 to 1 adaption I don’t know what to tell you. Give up on that and you’ll enjoy the show a lot more. The books will always be there.
If you value replication for adaptions only then prob stop watching cause it absolutely will not be that.
My guess is they will end up cutting most of books 7-10 almost entirely besides a few important things. Even more than that will have to be cut, it’s just literally impossible to do.
It’s so much more enjoyable after accepting this and just going along for the ride, seeing how and what they try to do to achieve the larger plot points, just with a different path to get there is becoming really fun. Get alot of good laughs at how stupid some of the things are but also blown away by some of the actors and season 2 improving immensely after that meh first season.
If you read all that I luv u. If you are still mad please just take some time and try to think about what it would require to be 100% loyal to the books. Cant be done. Will the changes they make be good ones tho? We will see 😂 some I love and some make me laugh.
Hey we get it. Harry Potter cut peeves.
WoT changed the main characters and all the plotlines. Exactly the same thing.
Great show 🎉
The series has inadvertently turned away from core messages and themes of the books. The characters are imitations of themselves. It was apparent from the beginning that they planned on not following the books. It's a bad adaptation.
You can like the show if you want but this is Not The Wheel of Time.
The only 2 things that I can give the show credit for is that 1 it inspired me to reread the whole series again and 2 its inspired new people to ask and learn about it hopefully some will even read it.
Of course it was. They literally have said it all the time. It’s impossible to not turn away from the books to adapt a series this large. I very much disagree tho they have mostly done very close themes and messages. Just with different pathways to get there. Which they have to do , you can’t read the narration of the characters mind on screeen. So they have to do things a different way.
This show has repeatedly showed us it’s changing things and ppl still act surprised.
Stop hoping for replication of the books as that was never once in the cards and never will be.
Bad adaption can still be a great show. Although I’ve thought it’s been pretty accurate as an adaption as book 1 and book 2 are my least favorite. Book 1 is a pretty weak book, and the first season definitely followed that theme 😂 I’m very glad they have done all these changes for season 2 as the events in book 2 are boring and weird. So the changes are working for me as in it’s making a good tv show to watch. The improvements they made from season 1 to 2 are huge. We’ll see if they can keep it going.
It is just another turning of the Wheel.
Thanks for giving me permission to like it I don't know what I would've done if I didn't get that
@leonardschubert3897 Well, no one said you can't like crap.
Last episode ruined whole season 2
So far it's ok, more of an "inspired by" instead of a direct retelling of the story. I wish they would have not made the Rings of Power LotR series and put that $100 million into making a more true to the books series for WoT. They could have had an epic series instead of 2 lackluster ones.
I consider Amazon version of WOT to be”what if” episodes especially the second season. 👎🏽
It’s different and good
It’s so freeing to not be a book reader with the burden of knowing what could’ve been🫶
Not enjoying this adaptation. Its amazing how people buy a story only to rewrite it. What's the point.
So that those of us who don't read can enjoy a good story... if you don't like the adaptation then stick with the books. No one is forcing you to like both. Stick with what you like.
@@trueself6632 It was a rhetorical question. Also, there is a line between adaptation and rewrite. I didn't use the word adaptation for a reason.
I read all the books. Hate watching the show.
Good, show is better already
The writers hate the books. They put their ideals and politics into it and ruin an amazing story. Rip witcher & rip wheel of time
😂 what politics have they put in it?
@@TheJordanK They have straight up said the show has to change to fit their current year feminist agenda.
@@TheJordanKWhy dobyou think they haven't even mentioned saidar, and saidin?
Best to view the series as something LOOSELY based on the Epic series, akin to a toddler's crayon sketching of the Mona Lisa. I stopped watching the show and started listening to audiobooks of the series. WAY better. Amazon fubared this one folks
I really dislike these show runners who think they can write a better story than the original author.
They don't think they can its just that the books are not that good or popular frankly . And I like the show btw and the books, they just don't have mass market appeal so they have to produce a show with cuts
@@konstantinkrastev4478 I respectfully disagree. There are many examples of the same thing happening to other franchises and the show tanks.
Wheel of time is one of the most popular fantasy series of all time, more popular then a song of ice and fire which is "the game of thrones" so your take is totally wrong. @@konstantinkrastev4478
@@konstantinkrastev4478 The books are not unpopular. His books are not ones to skim, however much you are tempted when the 'slog' hits. Jordan's descriptive style of writing is too much for some, but it allows you to see this entire world in your imagination. A lot of people skim when this happens and end up missing something important.
@@samsmom1491 I mean the first book is kind of discount lord of the rings let's be honest, the other books get much better.
But overall again the point remains, the books are not that popular, they are not lord of the rings , nor are they a masterpiece in writing like game of thrones.
They are in the middle ground, where they are lovely but they are just not going to pull the hundreds of millions you need in budget.
Which is something Bradon Sanderson says, he needs hundreds of millions to make it properly BUT nobody is willing to spend that, on a medium tier fantasy
I havent read the books and im glad i didnt coz i loved the series ❤