Reminder that, as a NewType, Bellri can hear their dying screams in his head as those people are literally Ctrl-X-ed from existence... The fact he didn't break emotionally there is a miracle
The Moonlight Butterfly turns matter into sand. This just annihilates matter altogether. This may actually be even more terrifying than the Moonlight Butterfly...
Moonlight Butterfly's terrifying in the sense it's solar system-wide devastation. Photon Torpedo's terrifying in the sense it's a tactical MOAB. There's no radiation, but one's effect is smaller enough to use more frequently against more specific enemies. The other is just a massive universe reset button.
@@SadielHrz That's just it's default setting. The true power of the Turn A only comes out when a Newtype pilots it at which point the thing is essentially a reality warping mechanical god as shown in the Light of Life Chronicle UC special. That's how all the Gundam Timelines managed to converge within its setting because the Turn A quite literally fused them altogether.
You can't blame him for freaking out like that. He _atomized_ those people. Quite literally erased them from existance. That's deader than dead. You can't even become a newtype ghost after that.
Yes and true It is a deadly and brutal kill but at the very least before they died they didn’t suffer like how others suffer from like pop like a balloon from radiation in SEED or getting assimilated by aliens in 00
Photon Torpedo is considered a weapon designed to counter the Moon Butterfly. Photon Torpedo disperses crystals encasing antimatter. Enemies touched by Photon Torpedo are annihilated and converted into light. G-Self absorbs this light as energy. And G-Self is capable of unlimited combat.
Incidentally, it is possible that this photon torpedo was "not made as a weapon". Photon Torpedo was created to convert drifting objects such as asteroids and space debris into energy for long-distance travel. It is like committing a crime with a fruit knife.
But G-Self itself doesn't produce those Crystals right It's not like G-Self is like Hashmal from IBO Series where it has it's own "factory inside it's body". Which mean G-Self has limited amount of those Crystals. Which means there's an end to those bombardment
@@froutroe4969 it's the same as dynamite when it's first invented. The original purpose of it was only to help people destroy rocks during mining, but later it's used as means for killing people as well
I honestly love how the actual trigger(or toggle in this case) is covered implying you have to think about the action you're about to take. Another thing is the toggle seems to have some physical weight behind it and maybe the scene was made this way to also display this isn't just something easily used. The implication of this weapon carry's some weight behind it which is physically shown.
Sorry to tell you but all big weapons in real life , no all weapons have something like that the only thing I don't see having that kind of security Sistem it's the cannon from some figthers and these to have a lock Sistem in some way even more efective in preventing shooting it unless. You are sure
@@foxshoot3138 no, some are made intentionally harder to use. It may take some pressure to fire a rifle, but many of the more destructive weapons have covers, weighted triggers, or both depending on severity.
Could be just an artistic decision to animate it that way. To viewers who have no experience or seen an actual weapons safety switch, it would portray the Photon torpedo as a devastating weapon in the scene.
This whole scene was a call back to Space Runaway Ideon to the Black Hole Generator weapon in Ideon's Chest. Everyone, especially the pilot Cosmo, was completely horrified by it and agreed to never use it again.
Another mecha that had a similar scene is Nadesico, when Nadesico B first used the Phase Transition Cannon. The Phase Transition engine of the Nadesico is an ancient Martian tech that allowed them to bend space time and perform Boson Jumps, warping through interstellar space. This weapon shifts an entire region of space-time off phase, basically erasing everything in the area out of existence. Nadesico B erased the space around an entire fleet instantaneously and it was so horrifying they never used it ever again.
@@GuyWithAnAmazingHat I think you mixed up Nadesico with Y Unit and Nadesico B. The Nadesico B never has phase transition gun. And they actually use it again. Yurika order to shoot it twice in attempt to destroy the black box, and it look like she would spam it if she can.
The juxtaposition of the harmless looking pretty sparkles and the resultant destruction is very jarring, and the wails of the souls is very haunting. Quite a moving scene!
One push of a button turns a battlefield into an invisible antimatter minefield. You can’t see them. You can’t predict them. Before you know it, you’re dead. One push of a button, and everything dies. Not even Unicorn can stop the outcome (unless it does before G-Self uses the McGuffin). Not even ELS 00 QAN-T can understand the situation. Even the Moonlight Butterfly’s wings can decay within the sea of antimatter balloons. When G-Self sprays it’s Photon Torpedoes, the battle is, by definition, over.
Does this also decay Beam Shot or small projectile shot? I mean technically one way I can think of to counter this one is long range sniping, at least Darryl Lorenz or Lockon Stratos level, straight to his cockpit before he can react, so small and deadly so the chances of the projectile hits any of the photon torpedoes is the Lowet One other way is to snipe him using powerful continuous beam shot, like Buster Rifle, to ensure all those Photon Torpedo are used up erasing the initial beam particles. And since the distance is far away, it's possible to keep on hit and running him up to a certain point, it's not like G Self has infinite power supply.
@@trazyntheinfinite9895 interisting, so it's basically "Devouring Mist". But it doesn't mean it can keep on devouring, yes ? There must be a limit for each torpedo, since there are "carcasses" of the MS got hit by it, in the near end of the video. My revision, snipe him some moment after the torpedoes mist start eating, so there will be less torpedoes to deal with. There is also power reduction effect of those torpedoes mist, so... Go and push it to the limit, it's better if the shot is "Libra level", "Memento Mori level" or at Least "Satellite Cannon level", if "Scramble Gundam Rampage" is allowed to transport all 3 Gigantic Beam shots, the chance to shot him down is even higher
@@salamanderred8148 Each bubble of anti-matter is annihilating any matter it touches. So yeah, unlike MBF which can regenerate almost endlessly by eating the non-organic matter while continuously fed by the energy of their host (Turn A/X), this thing just vanishes when all the bubble touches anything.
Anti-particles annihialate substances and convert them into energy for G-Self. The combination of the photo searcher and photon torpedos makes G-self invincible.
What makes this worse, is Bellri doesn't have fellow Newtypes Amuro, Char, Judau and Kamille to support him, like he does in the crossover games, Super Robot Wars. Meaning he's going to have to come to terms with this all on his own.
여러모로 턴에이와 대비되는 연출의 G레코... 턴에이의 월광접이 '문명을 리셋시켜 다시 한번 인류를 원점으로 돌린다.'의 기술이라면 G레코의 포톤 톨피도는 '문명을 이룬 모든 인류를 절멸시킨다.'를 극한으로 끌어올린 기술... 심지어 파일럿인 밸리조차 그저 전쟁의 과열됨을 막으려 했지만 정작 보여준 건 밸리도 그 누구도 원치 않았던 대량학살이라는 광경 뿐... 토미노 감독이 '도구는 사용하는 사람에 의해 용도가 변한다.'를 보여줬는데 이번에 보여준 연출은 '사람이 만든 목적에 다다른 도구의 위험성'을 더욱 부각시켰네
My first thought after Bellri started hearing the screams was "get him back to the Megafauna and get him out of that suit before he has a psychotic break". We all remember what happened to Kamille after the Scirocco fight.
Ahh yes, the mini-version of moonlight butterfly but doesn't discriminate. Photon Torpedo: Here, you can have one. Living being: But I'm not a machi- [Gets deleted 0:18]
I always found it wierd that this moment happens and, in the series at least, it just... never goes anywhere? It's never referred to again, never impacts any character growth - G-Self just has this unbelievably powerful ability and it might as well not have happened. Does the movie change this?
Not really. This is probably the first time the main character actually freaked out and was disgusted by himself and weapons (for killing that many people). Before that he really kills without much guilty.
Stardust Memory handled it better when Phsyalis used the nuke near the end of the show. If you intend to use an overpowered mass-destructive weapon, make sure it's at the end of the series than some place in the middle of it to avoid being questioned.
@@JohnSmith-zr8io Nah, at the moment he killed them his emotions was more like "Why do you have to make me kill you". Even after that he still tend to think that as tragedies or incidents - he was sorry for killing them, but he didn't really regret his action. This scene however is the first time he actually thought he did something terrible, and therefore never use this weapon anymore.
使用のためのトリガーが押し込み式じゃなくて指で持ち上げるタイプって辺りが、これは非常に危険な兵器なんだというのを強調してて好き。
その後のスイッチが妙に押しづらそうで硬いのもそういうことなんでしょうねぇ…。
色も毒毒しいしね…
@@石丸郁万
見た感じ単純に固いだけでなくレバーに何段階もクリックが入っていて、瞬間的な力だけではどんなに強くとも押しきれない仕様みたいですね。
クリックに阻まれた上で継続的な力が働くことでようやく最後まで押せるようになっている辺り、意識的に使おうとしない限りは発動しないようになっているかと。
誤動作で撃ったらあまりにも危険だからなぁ…
敵味方関係なしに巻き込んだらマジでGセルフしか残らん
危険の方向性が違うけど戦場での運用のしやすさを考えると核よりヤバイ
似た感じで種死のレクイエムのトリガーも安全装置２回引いて発射ボタンだったな
今までのガンダムでは「爆発」という演出で敵の死が理解できたけど、その爆発すらもなく消しゴムで消したかのように命が散っていく演出に「えっ」と声が出てしまった
富野監督の演出は相変わらず健在だな
防御不可能ってのがやばすぎる。
消しゴムマジックで消しちゃう！
消しゴム、凄いわかる…
もっと近い表現でいえば消すことが出来るボールペン（フリクションの奴）で書かれた文字を消してく感覚かも（消しカスすら出ないから）
これぞ富野演出怖えぇー😂。
分解兵器で言えば月光蝶も在るけどあれとも違う不気味さ
血とかの映像的グロ描写を避けて、それでいて兵器というものの悍ましさ怖さを表現するのが富野監督すごく上手いよね。映像的には綺麗でグロっぽさがないのに、その中で人が、ってので逆におぞましさが増してる感じがする
That reality makes it worse lol
断末魔をあげきる時間すらなくて皆動揺しながら消えていくってのがね・・・。
周囲にいたパイロットタチがそれを見ながら状況を把握しようとする台詞も怖くて、怖気が走るって点では純粋にホラー。
🤣 on rocket launcher headshots...
@@まるまる-i5u6o
爆発もなく、質量の変化すら無く消失するんだもんなあ
恐怖より困惑が先にくるわ、これ
「綺麗でグロっぽさがないのに、その中で人が」
ファフナーの同化が進んで、結晶化して砕け散るシーンもそうよねを
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ここのGセルフのカットはエルフブル戦の時と同じ構図なんだよね
人間たちが慌てふためいているのとは真逆にGセルフは堂々としてるのめっちゃいい
「兵器は人の言うことを聞くだけ」という作品全体のテーマをこの「メカが目を光らせて立つ」という数秒の動作だけで表しているのが本当に凄いわ
Reminder that, as a NewType, Bellri can hear their dying screams in his head as those people are literally Ctrl-X-ed from existence...
The fact he didn't break emotionally there is a miracle
Ctrl+shift+del
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....What do you mean he didn't break?
@@misamisa5145He didn't flip out from the shock of killing all those people.
You can’t hear the screams of something that’s instantly erased from existence.
何が怖いってこれが主人公の駆るファンネル的なものに置き換わると「カッコいいシーン」になることだと思う
テレビ版以上にフォトントルピードがいかにやばい兵器なのか恐ろしいぐらい分かる演出になってて戦慄したわ、、、
敵も味方も困惑してるのがより一層フォトントルピードの威力のヤバさが際立ってるのがとても良い
The Moonlight Butterfly turns matter into sand. This just annihilates matter altogether. This may actually be even more terrifying than the Moonlight Butterfly...
And you cant see them
I think this is more terrifying
Moonlight Butterfly's terrifying in the sense it's solar system-wide devastation. Photon Torpedo's terrifying in the sense it's a tactical MOAB.
There's no radiation, but one's effect is smaller enough to use more frequently against more specific enemies. The other is just a massive universe reset button.
Did he innocently kill everyone unnoticed?
It converts matter into photon energy so the G-Self can recharge and do it again.
兵器を「恐ろしいもの」としてここまで描写するとは、劇場でこのシーンを見て心底ぞっとしました(; ･`д･´)
さすがは富野監督としか言いようがない。
When you thought the Cyclops system was brutal, this thing just deletes everyone from existence faster than Thanos.
I’d say Cyclops is still more brutal considering your organs start exploding before you pop like a zit.
@@QuantaSolace well, this thing didn't even let you scream
A coup de grace.
It's like an indiscriminate moonlight butterfly, instead of erasing technology, it erases everything
So is Brutalizes VS Vaporizes.
2:17 Gルシファーパーフェクトパック装備とかいう化け物がしれっと生まれた瞬間 ユニバーサル規格！ユニバーサル規格です！！
無傷のバックパック喪失するワケにもいかんから仕方ないけど確かにバケモン生まれてるねw
よく見たら確かにとんでもねぇ化け物生まれてたわ笑
光子魚雷&月光蝶とかいうチート
@@さくさくパンダ-y7f
ぶっちゃけ、混ぜようが混ぜなかろうが過剰
あれだな、∞だろうが∞+∞だろうが変わらない理論
Props to the animators and VAs for portraying just how terrifying it would be to see this weapon deployed.
This movie version made photon torpedo more terrifying than TV version.
@@seabookarno1664 if I remember right, the TV version is only at lower power.
I thought it just remove the suit part and immobilize the enemy. But turn out it way more scarier
Willingly use the weapon *Act* *all* *innocent* LoL
@@tiefblau2780
He didn’t know it was that powerful.
So you’re telling me that noone can actually SEE these things being deployed? Oh nah this is the scariest weapon in Gundam by a long shot.
Errr...Moolight Butterly...that thing is quite literaly a end of the world weapon system
@@AnestNightroad that's more of a ability like trans-am, but yeah i got your point
@@AnestNightroad doesnt that just turn anything technological into sand
@@SadielHrz Yup, this causes localized damage, buttefly is world rest button
@@SadielHrz That's just it's default setting. The true power of the Turn A only comes out when a Newtype pilots it at which point the thing is essentially a reality warping mechanical god as shown in the Light of Life Chronicle UC special. That's how all the Gundam Timelines managed to converge within its setting because the Turn A quite literally fused them altogether.
リギルドセンチュリーになってから新たに開発された技術はほぼ無くて劇中に登場する技術は全て宇宙世紀時代のものなので、宇宙世紀末期にはこんな兵器が当たり前にガンガン使用されていた事実
ナチュラル「これは」
コーディネーター「使えるな」
CE世界の人間はこれを民間人に向けてバラ撒きかねない
@@ogre7948処理が簡単だな!!!
核と違って環境汚染をしないだと！
素晴らしい！！！
？？）ジェネシスの速度でこれを発射できるようにしよう
あ、まーずい
主人公側も何が起きたのか理解出来ずに怯えてるの良いよね
さっきまで戦場だった場所が一瞬で静寂に包まれるの怖すぎる
逆張りでもなんでもなくGレコ好き
映画5作全部観に行った
私はそれに加えて、円盤を5つとも買った！
これのやばい所は、「消えた人間も光子に変えてGセルフのエネルギーになる」ところだと思う
なんだ、この吸血鬼みたいなMS……
自己増殖するDG細胞や月光蝶などのナノ系技術に対する兵器なんだろうな
充電効果もないと対応できないからとか
Now I understand why it's called Self.
I mean we have G Lucifer, G Aeon.
This one is truly a Self Centered Gundam, All (of those matters are) for One.
嫌な想像だけど、ベルリが聞いた人の悲鳴ってフォトン装甲に吸収された人の残滓なんじゃ……
@@黒糖ふ菓子 ﾋｪ……
オゲェェェ
You can't blame him for freaking out like that. He _atomized_ those people. Quite literally erased them from existance. That's deader than dead. You can't even become a newtype ghost after that.
and it looked like he was also not expecting it to be this deadly
There is no deader than dead... And how do you know this weapon prevent a newtype from becoming a ghost?
Yes and true
It is a deadly and brutal kill but at the very least before they died they didn’t suffer like how others suffer from like pop like a balloon from radiation in SEED or getting assimilated by aliens in 00
Bel does hears the ghastly scream of those dead pilots. So I doubt that it can erase soul.
he does hear death screams of those pilots that got removed tho.
Photon Torpedo is considered a weapon designed to counter the Moon Butterfly.
Photon Torpedo disperses crystals encasing antimatter.
Enemies touched by Photon Torpedo are annihilated and converted into light.
G-Self absorbs this light as energy. And
G-Self is capable of unlimited combat.
Incidentally, it is possible that this photon torpedo was "not made as a weapon".
Photon Torpedo was created to convert drifting objects such as asteroids and space debris into energy for long-distance travel.
It is like committing a crime with a fruit knife.
@@froutroe4969 except said fruit knife is capable of atomising anything it touches
pretty unnerving if you think about it.
But G-Self itself doesn't produce those Crystals right
It's not like G-Self is like Hashmal from IBO Series where it has it's own "factory inside it's body".
Which mean G-Self has limited amount of those Crystals.
Which means there's an end to those bombardment
@@froutroe4969 it's the same as dynamite when it's first invented. The original purpose of it was only to help people destroy rocks during mining, but later it's used as means for killing people as well
フォトン・トルピードマジで映画館で鳥肌立ったよあれはやばい…。
神隠しの如くモビルスーツ と共にパイロットも消滅するから誰だって戦慄するよこれは…。
I honestly love how the actual trigger(or toggle in this case) is covered implying you have to think about the action you're about to take. Another thing is the toggle seems to have some physical weight behind it and maybe the scene was made this way to also display this isn't just something easily used. The implication of this weapon carry's some weight behind it which is physically shown.
Sorry to tell you but all big weapons in real life , no all weapons have something like that the only thing I don't see having that kind of security Sistem it's the cannon from some figthers and these to have a lock Sistem in some way even more efective in preventing shooting it unless. You are sure
@@foxshoot3138 Are you sure about your spelling though?
@@foxshoot3138 no, some are made intentionally harder to use. It may take some pressure to fire a rifle, but many of the more destructive weapons have covers, weighted triggers, or both depending on severity.
Could be just an artistic decision to animate it that way. To viewers who have no experience or seen an actual weapons safety switch, it would portray the Photon torpedo as a devastating weapon in the scene.
テレビ版だと低出力で使っててパイロットまではいかなかったが相手部隊の殆どを戦闘不能に"出来てしまった"からベルリが「これは流石に危なすぎる！」てなれたけど
映画だと高出力でつかってしまったアンサーって感じでヤバ過ぎる…
しかもこれでも最大出力じゃ無さそうなんだよな…
ガンバスターが宇宙怪獣を空間ごと消し去った物と同じ兵器を
「人間の乗ってるMSに向けて散布」したのか・・・
@@anacreon0221 出力的にあちらの物よりは劣るけどこっちのもやばすぎるんだよな…
@@anacreon0221というか最大出力の参考はガンバスターのそれじゃないかと
こんなやべぇ武装なのか…。
対消滅光子魚雷（フォトントルピード） 反物質を無数に散布し触れた物体を消滅させる
また消滅させたフォトン・バッテリーをGセルフに吸収できるため実質弾数無限
パーフェクトパックは全ての武装がエネルギー消費が激しくフォトントルピードによるフォトン・バッテリー吸収前提で設計されていた節があるのが悍ましいレベル パイロットが紛れもない善人だったのが救い
like the old saying goes "if you wanted them dead, you had to make sure they can't think about getting revenge"
Gotta love the "get this thing off me!" Moment. Even the guys who used flamethrowers didn't immediately notice how horrific their weapon was.
you wouldn't expect something that would shoot little sparkles be dangerous
セリフもカットもないのにアルケインがGセルフに触れてアイーダの声を聞いたベルリが少し落ち着いたんだろうなってわかるの凄い
血が出ないだけでここまでの脅威と怖さを出せるのは本当にヤベーよ
This whole scene was a call back to Space Runaway Ideon to the Black Hole Generator weapon in Ideon's Chest. Everyone, especially the pilot Cosmo, was completely horrified by it and agreed to never use it again.
However, they technically keep using it with Ideon Gun.
@@KuruniXD Yeah they just never use the "suck stuff into the black hole core" part again because it's too terrifying.
Another mecha that had a similar scene is Nadesico, when Nadesico B first used the Phase Transition Cannon. The Phase Transition engine of the Nadesico is an ancient Martian tech that allowed them to bend space time and perform Boson Jumps, warping through interstellar space.
This weapon shifts an entire region of space-time off phase, basically erasing everything in the area out of existence. Nadesico B erased the space around an entire fleet instantaneously and it was so horrifying they never used it ever again.
@@GuyWithAnAmazingHat
I think you mixed up Nadesico with Y Unit and Nadesico B. The Nadesico B never has phase transition gun.
And they actually use it again. Yurika order to shoot it twice in attempt to destroy the black box, and it look like she would spam it if she can.
死者の声を聞いて恐慌状態に陥るベルリ生徒のシーン、凄くガンダムしてるよね
スレッタ
こいつの方が⁉️酷くね(笑)
Gレコって明確なニュータイプ表現はないから（ニュータイプの音だったりのサブタイがあるから概念自体はありそうだけど）富野さんの手グセみたいのがこういうところで観れるとオタクは嬉しいよね...
違うとこにもあったけど、吸収された光エネルギーの残滓とか残留思念からの声かもね
個人的に死者の声がイデオンソードのseっぽいなと思いました
The juxtaposition of the harmless looking pretty sparkles and the resultant destruction is very jarring, and the wails of the souls is very haunting. Quite a moving scene!
怖すぎる、この消しゴムマジック
???:消しゴムマジックで消してやるのさ
消しゴムマジックはセンスあるww
フワちゃんが独裁者になっちまうww
逆にフワが消されてるじゃねぇか
グロ描写を出さないことで恐ろしさを強調する。すげえ
メチャクチャ強力な爆弾とかじゃなくて「見えない・触れたら消える・爆発しないから何がなんだかわからない」だしそのエネルギーを自分が使えるとか恐ろしいわ…
敵機の爆破の光を吸収して更にもう一発撃てるのが無法過ぎる。
命中さえすれば弾数無限とかいう狂気よ
なんなら効率無視すれば、フォトントルピードで破壊できるものであればなんでもエネルギー回収できるんだよね
例えば木に当てたり建物に当てたり隕石に当てたりしてもエネルギー回収できる
One push of a button turns a battlefield into an invisible antimatter minefield. You can’t see them. You can’t predict them. Before you know it, you’re dead. One push of a button, and everything dies. Not even Unicorn can stop the outcome (unless it does before G-Self uses the McGuffin). Not even ELS 00 QAN-T can understand the situation. Even the Moonlight Butterfly’s wings can decay within the sea of antimatter balloons.
When G-Self sprays it’s Photon Torpedoes, the battle is, by definition, over.
Does this also decay Beam Shot or small projectile shot?
I mean technically one way I can think of to counter this one is long range sniping, at least Darryl Lorenz or Lockon Stratos level, straight to his cockpit before he can react, so small and deadly so the chances of the projectile hits any of the photon torpedoes is the Lowet
One other way is to snipe him using powerful continuous beam shot, like Buster Rifle, to ensure all those Photon Torpedo are used up erasing the initial beam particles.
And since the distance is far away, it's possible to keep on hit and running him up to a certain point, it's not like G Self has infinite power supply.
@@salamanderred8148 no, particle weapons would just hit the am mines too.
Also the spreadrate on these is quite broken.
@@trazyntheinfinite9895 interisting, so it's basically "Devouring Mist".
But it doesn't mean it can keep on devouring, yes ? There must be a limit for each torpedo, since there are "carcasses" of the MS got hit by it, in the near end of the video.
My revision, snipe him some moment after the torpedoes mist start eating, so there will be less torpedoes to deal with.
There is also power reduction effect of those torpedoes mist, so...
Go and push it to the limit, it's better if the shot is "Libra level", "Memento Mori level" or at Least "Satellite Cannon level", if "Scramble Gundam Rampage" is allowed to transport all 3 Gigantic Beam shots, the chance to shot him down is even higher
@@salamanderred8148 Each bubble of anti-matter is annihilating any matter it touches. So yeah, unlike MBF which can regenerate almost endlessly by eating the non-organic matter while continuously fed by the energy of their host (Turn A/X), this thing just vanishes when all the bubble touches anything.
I mean the quanta works with a very small scale with particles as well so I'm sure something could be done
爆発もしない、血も出ない。ただ静かに命中させたものを消滅させる。
音が無いのって、こんなに怖いんだな……
そりゃ人殺しと呼ばれて追いかけ回されるわ
トミノ監督の最強兵器を持った主人公の反応が面白い、イデオンのコスモが怖くても使わないと生き延びられない状況で麻痺していく感覚とターンエーのロランのこんな物はどこかに捨てようから人の作った以上役に立ってみせろ、とも違う
Anti-particles annihialate substances and convert them into energy for G-Self. The combination of the photo searcher and photon torpedos makes G-self invincible.
Wear and tear :bitch pls
SEEDでナタル・バジルールが言ってたセリフ「（戦争は）終わるさ。敵であるものを全て滅ぼせばな。」
フォトントルピードは使用すれば何もかも本当の意味で跡形もなく消し去ることができる。それこそ戦争そのものを消し去ることも。ただ、一人の人間が持ってはいけない力であることは確かだ。
細かいけどナタルじゃなくてバルトフェルドさんやね
@@コマさん-m7n それも間違ってないですね。
僕が思い浮かんだのは物語終盤、地球軍がPLANTの要塞ボアズを核攻撃で落とした後、ドミニオンの後部デッキでフレイとバジルールが話していたシーンですね。
もっと細かくてすいません。
TV版よりもフォトントルピードのヤバさを敵味方に演出してるの好き
月光蝶は人工物を砂に変えるけどこっちはパイロットごと消すのがやばい
Gレコ→ターンエーの時系列の解釈ならば、トルピードは月光蝶のプロトかもね
@@ノワール-k3o月光蝶はナノマシンの散布やぞ
これは反物質
@@ノワール-k3o寧ろ、フォトントルピードはナノスキン装甲を持ったターンタイプ攻略用の武装だと思うんよ
だから人工物限定じゃねぇって
何度言わせんだ
@@ジーーザス お前初めてのコメントやんけ
これベルリ死者の念を感じてなかったら平気で使い続けてそう
ＴＶだと機体全部じゃなくバラバラな部分をランダム的にごっそりだったからもしやと思ったら映画では案の定だった…
これコクピット全部ならまぁ…だけどちょうど“境い目”とかだったら最悪だろな…
劇場で観たときにその想像に至って身体が縮こまりました…
その境い目に巻き込まれたと思われる人が0:36のカットから映ってるんですよね…
パイロットスーツで奥から手前に流れてくる人の左足が…
@@テレーベ うわぁ…！コメ見て見直したら見つけちゃった🙄
映画やばいっすね。さすが富野監督ですよ、こういうリアリティを忘れさせない。戦争への思いがあるのは今も変わりませんね。
監督って生まれが戦中だしな。
生きたまま分解されエネルギーに変えられてしまうのか...
No flashes no awesome explosions. You just disappear from existence. This just shows you more how fearsome war is.
Braindead comment
G-self is so underrated. The design is amazing, I would love to buy a MG 1/100 G-self if Bandai release it
What makes this worse, is Bellri doesn't have fellow Newtypes Amuro, Char, Judau and Kamille to support him, like he does in the crossover games, Super Robot Wars. Meaning he's going to have to come to terms with this all on his own.
目の前で大量の人が謎の死に方したら怖すぎる。神の怒りにでも触れたのかと思ってしまう
神の如き力すら科学で再現可能になっている。
素晴らしい…⭐️
あらゆる破壊兵器をそこら辺の道路を走り回るラジコンレベルに置いてけぼりにしてしまった。
極めてクリーンで綺麗な『虚無』だ。
爆発も無ければ誘爆も無い。
ペストや天然痘などの伝染病を初めて目の当たりにした人達も同じように思ったんだろうな…
ベルリ「こんなもの！」
vs民「十秒に1回は擦られないかなフォトントルピード」
最強武装で草
@De Dong マキオンは無理だけど、2はいけた。というか２は勝手にすり抜けていった
Psycho Field, Moonlight Butterfly, Quantum Burst, Photon Torrpedo
yep that's a plot tier weapons alright
このレベルの武装を搭載したMSが戦争してた宇宙世紀末期って😐
そりゃあ人類も共食いするレベルまで落ちぶれるわ…
正直、鉄血のモビルアーマー相手には非常に有効な兵器だよなこれ……
鉄血どころかガンダム界隈の枠を超えても最強クラスの兵器やで
めっちゃ簡単に言うと俺らが今存在してるのは「正の物質の世界」反物質は「負の物質」これが衝突すると消滅してエネルギーになる
だから正の物質ではあればなんでも消滅する
月光蝶並みや……
@@チー坊のおもちょ箱 つっても高出力ビーム砲が当たれば重装甲MSでも一撃で消し飛ぶことを考えたらそれとあんまり変わらん気もするけどな。それに反物質は磁力などの力場には無力なので磁場で防御できるし
@@rumasa3757 それ言ったらおしまいじゃねw
なんなら核でええやんってなる
@@rumasa3757消滅させたエネルギーを吸収するとかじゃなかった??
生きたパイロットやエネルギーすら必要ないフェネクス、高火力広範囲でワープ持ちのパイロット事復活できるターンエー、ワープ持ちに非機械的なELSクアンタじゃないと相手にならないかもね
Bellri in the anime: Oh god what have I done?
Bellri in games: Haha Photon Torpedoes goes brrrrrr
Still one of the more mild war crimes in Gundam history
パイロット視点だと
いきなりモビルスーツに風穴が開いて外が見えたと思ったら、自分の腕や足が消えて
「え？」
ってなったあとに消えるのか…
まぁ、月光蝶も光子魚雷も、数ある技術の一つ程度のものでしかないんだけどね。そんだけターンエーにリセットされなかった世界の技術はやべーんだ…。
여러모로 턴에이와 대비되는 연출의 G레코...
턴에이의 월광접이 '문명을 리셋시켜 다시 한번 인류를 원점으로 돌린다.'의 기술이라면
G레코의 포톤 톨피도는 '문명을 이룬 모든 인류를 절멸시킨다.'를 극한으로 끌어올린 기술...
심지어 파일럿인 밸리조차 그저 전쟁의 과열됨을 막으려 했지만 정작 보여준 건
밸리도 그 누구도 원치 않았던 대량학살이라는 광경 뿐...
토미노 감독이 '도구는 사용하는 사람에 의해 용도가 변한다.'를 보여줬는데
이번에 보여준 연출은 '사람이 만든 목적에 다다른 도구의 위험성'을 더욱 부각시켰네
テレビ版よりえげつなくなってるな‼️
高出力で使ってしまった世界線って感じだね
@@スミスジャン
だね‼️
中のパイロット描写と周りの反応追加するだけでヤバさの臨場感が倍以上になってる
ファフナーのフェストゥムの攻撃のように、消してしまう力…、防ぎようがないな、これは。
空間攻撃能力を機能として再現した結果
爆発もさせずに敵を塵一つ残さず消滅させる。
実に良心的な兵器だ…
あっちはねじ切るかんじだから元が残ることもあったけど、こっちは爆発すらしないっていう…
これは独裁者呼ばわりも致し方なし…。
こんなハズじゃなかったなんて都合のいい言葉じゃどうにもならないヤバさだな…
フォトントルピードで発生したエネルギーで永久機関！ノーベル賞は俺のものだぜ！
ぐらいの知能ならベルリも悩まんのになぁ
天才すら目の錯覚を疑う現象
Man, they buffed THE HELL outta this weapon!
It was already OD enough in the anime version, but now this is just straight up terrifying!
hey you still alive good see you i am you sub
恥ずかしながらこの動画で初めて観たけど
驚いて戦慄した…こ、怖い……
よくこんな恐ろしい兵器思いつく
パイロットの戸惑いと
ガンダムの「これが俺の力だ」みたいなドヤ感のギャップがいいね
My first thought after Bellri started hearing the screams was "get him back to the Megafauna and get him out of that suit before he has a psychotic break". We all remember what happened to Kamille after the Scirocco fight.
gレコの世界とか技術がどんなものか知らないけどこれはイカれてる。ビビった
これよく見るとしっかり誘導されてる。ヤバい
TV版だとそんなに威力なくて、威嚇・無力化にはちょうどいいけど、
ベルリがビビる程の兵器とは思えなかった。
映画版のコレはアカン兵器。。
テレビ版はちゃんと出力落としてるのよ
どんなものかわからないから
んで「低出力でこれか！？」て悪態つくと同時に高出力じゃなくてよかったと安堵してたのよ
そしてやっちまったのが映画版
This is seems OP even for a Gundam series. Like the ultimate nullifier in comics, this is just a plot device.
It is supposed to be an answer to moonlight butterfly. but I couldn't see it winning against it
@@rollingvice
It’s a counter to it.
コズミック・イラの世界に無くてよかった兵器NO.1
コズミック・イラの世界にあったら人類の滅亡まで秒読み状態になるなw
アスランの親父やクルーゼがポチポチ連打してそう
CEなら対消滅ぐらいできそうなもんだが…
アズラエル『めちゃくちゃ欲しい！！！！！！！』
人類絶滅するわwww
防御不可能、、、こんなの怖すぎるよw
流石富野さん。
独裁者パックほんと好き
"A great disturbance in the force at if a million voices cried out Suddenly silenced" that just gives this a whole new meaning
血が出るのではなく塵となる描写が凄まじい
塵ではない消えるのだ
塵すら残らずGセルフのエネルギーにされてるんだアレ
※これでも月光蝶よりは幾らか有情です。
月光蝶は塵は残るし、無機物はそのまま残るけどこっちは何もかもを光に還す(物理)からこっちのが無慈悲かつ残酷な兵器だな
無機物、有機物関係無しだから月光蝶より遥かにヤベーよ
月光蝶のヤバい所は
ぶっちゃけ設定があやふやなんでこっから更に後付けで設定を盛れるってのがね……
いや、完全消滅の方が恐ろしいに決まってんだろ
こっちのが余っ程こえーんだよな
月光蝶といいフォトントルピードといい味方の、しかも主役機が持っていていい装備じゃないなｗ
富野監督の演出はさすがだと思う。
Ahh yes, the mini-version of moonlight butterfly but doesn't discriminate.
Photon Torpedo: Here, you can have one.
Living being: But I'm not a machi- [Gets deleted 0:18]
Compare that to the original show where he just flies through an army as everyone is disabled and somehow nobody dies nor does Bellri care.
That is the true nightmare known as Gundam.........
実は兵器ではなく長距離移動用のエネルギー補給装備という事実。小さい星や隕石をエネルギーに変えて外宇宙行くようっぽい。
それだと開発系統が全く別の月光蝶によく似てるよね
技術の収斂進化？
@@ホンマリ
分解→吸収の過程を分解だけで止めてるだけの違いかと
@@ja-4105 なる
@@ホンマリ
答えておいてアレだけどナノマシンによる分解と反物質による消滅だと過程どころか結果も違うから別に似てなくない？
使った本人が半狂乱になるレベルでヤバい兵器だよな……
人すらもGセルフのエネルギーとして回収されるの怖い
これは独裁者ですね...
man, they even make the photon torpedo switch really hard to trigger because that thing is absolute terror to use
great detail!
The fact that it isn't even its Full Power, holy C###
Anime protag; Hey!
Enemies: ???
Anime: *"SPARKLE SPARKLE SPARKLE!"*
マジ無差別兵器かつ
ガンダムの無慈悲感が
全開になってる
現実の映像だと焼夷弾が降ってくるとき、花火みたいに綺麗に見えるけど、それと同じ感覚で恐ろしい..
これこそガチの消しゴムマジックだろ
I always found it wierd that this moment happens and, in the series at least, it just... never goes anywhere? It's never referred to again, never impacts any character growth - G-Self just has this unbelievably powerful ability and it might as well not have happened. Does the movie change this?
Not really. This is probably the first time the main character actually freaked out and was disgusted by himself and weapons (for killing that many people).
Before that he really kills without much guilty.
@@ndyKong What are you going on about? He was pretty freaked out about having killed Cahill and Dellensen.
Stardust Memory handled it better when Phsyalis used the nuke near the end of the show. If you intend to use an overpowered mass-destructive weapon, make sure it's at the end of the series than some place in the middle of it to avoid being questioned.
@@JohnSmith-zr8io Nah, at the moment he killed them his emotions was more like "Why do you have to make me kill you".
Even after that he still tend to think that as tragedies or incidents - he was sorry for killing them, but he didn't really regret his action.
This scene however is the first time he actually thought he did something terrible, and therefore never use this weapon anymore.
@@ndyKong they definitely delivered Bellri's regret of using this weapon (and how fearsome it is) better in the movie than in the anime.
しかもフォトントルピードって機能的に兵器ですらない可能性があるんだよなぁ…
本来は隕石などに当てて航続距離を伸ばしたりするものなのかもしれない…
これエネルギー回復装置じゃなかった？
@@褐色キャラ愛好家
そう。
パーフェクトパックは全身フォトンバッテリーのGセルフですらガス欠になる程のエネルギー食らいなので、フォトントルピードで周囲の物質をフォトンに変換してバッテリーに充電することで継戦能力を延ばすためのもの。
絶対兵器などと銘打たれているが、実情はただの充電器。
@@褐色キャラ愛好家 だからそういったんだが…
@@shikorusukee ただあれはコピペシールドで無理やり大気圏突入したからバッテリー切れしたのであって
本来はまだまだ活動できるバッテリー量はあった
逆に言えば大気圏突入してやっとバッテリー切れするレベル…
TV版見てるから劇場版はいいかと思ってたけど
細かい部分が全然違うじゃないか！
ＴＶ版と劇場版で2度オトクな出来なので、ぜひ劇場版も見てくださいｗ
@@きるきる-s4m 描写や作画が違うくらいかと思ってました
浅はかでした
個人的にはやっぱり
Gレコ→∀ガンダムという時系列のままにしてもらって
ロランの「人の英知が生み出した物なら‥人を救って見せろぉー！」という言葉にベルリは救われてほしいな…
｢人は｣救ったろ？
フォトントルピードで光子化したものは人間じゃない、クンタラだ
俺もそうあってほしいけど月光蝶を無効化できる兵器って現時点でフォトントルピードしか存在しないんだよね…じゃあどっちが後で作られたかっていうと…
ハッパさん「設計図通りに作っただけ」