Airlines' Protocol for After a Plane Crash
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I always think about the two passengers of Air France 358 who, after the plane over ran the runway on landing, escaped the burning wreckage and caught their connecting flight in the airport.
What in the
What in the
@@user-py5sy6wi6z What in the
What in the
What in the
Hell yeah, baby. Going back to his roots, airplanes
He never left. *[Raises Pistol]*
Nah, I think he's more of a brick guy than an airplane guy
BRICKS
We were never angry at him, only sad because we thought he had lost his way
@@Eatmydbzballs BANG
"people fear air travel an irrational amount"
I disagree I think people are irrationally comfortable with driving.
There's a lot to be said for the actual or perceived control that comes with operating the vehicle. Critical equipment malfunctions (although much more common in cars), fire, etc. are much easier to deal with on the ground, since you can stop immediately.
I agree with you. Over 30,000 deaths in the US alone, not to mention the many more with serious injuries. Planes may be safer than cars, but cars are really fucking dangerous.
Agree all my siblings plus my parents have separately been on mild to serious accidents the past 20 yrs. Fortunately no permanent harm to all 4. I think the perceived safety comes from the probability relative to frequency of driving. You can spend 3 hours a day driving and only be in one minor accident every 10 years. That makes car accidents feel less likely
@@hello-friend990 Yes, although the reality is that you could take a plane trip twice a day every day for the rest of your life and still be far safer than you would be doing the same thing in a car.
Well in an airplane u dont fly it but in cars u drive it and u see more things happen in front of you even if you a passenger so u know also driving is on 2D while Flaying is 3D(i.e X,Y,Z planes) we are more comfortable in 2D than 3D casue we walk not fly so yes people are way comfortbale to drive than fly
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Alternate title: the Logistics of plane crash responses
yeah i support this title
Alternate title: after plane go boom what
Alternate title: the insane logistics of plane crashes
@@joshuaglaszek51 I kinda like that XD
This video explicitly show the airline's side of response. It did not focus on the logistics of other parties like the national transportation investigative team.
"Crashes are interesting when there's a burning pile of debris"
This is such a true statement that just reflects how quickly we forget major incidents like crashes. The families of the victims don't have that privilege.
I remember like yesterday JK5022 crash in 2008, Barajas, Madrid that I witnessed.
I have fortunately not experienced a crash, but remembering crashes like the concorde or Malaysia 370 is so important, it makes sure we respect those who died in the pursuit of aviation.
Stop commenting please
@@JoMiMi_h Why he is pointing out that humans have short attention spans.
There's a beautiful movie by Peter Weir called Fearless, who tells the story of a plane crash survivor, with all the personal and legal consequences of it. I really recommend it, it's hugely underrated because it was released at the same time as Schindler's list.
I'm part of my airline's Emergency Response Team specifically on the passenger verification team. We go over the passenger manifest and verify how many souls on board and who they were. This entails researching lifted tickets and reconciling them with the manifest and even talking to the airport agents who boarded the flight. The only incident I worked on was when the bomb exploded in the Brussels airport in 2016. We set up a team because the airline was checking in at the time and we had passengers at the terminal. Even though our aircraft wasn't targeted, we believed it the right thing to do and set up a full team including the Go Team. Since I was on the verification team, we looked at who was booked and bought tickets, who was checked in and who wasn't. At that point we literally played detectives trying to find these passengers. It was a very sad thing to know before anyone else that some of them were killed inthe explosion. We worked round the clock for 6 days. I'll never forget going to Mass on the Holy Saturday night and when the priest mentioned to remember the victims, it finally hit me and I broke down.
We just had a drill the other day. It's chilling when you get a call, text, and email with THERE HAS BEEN AN AIRCRAFT INCIDENT.... and you wait for the follow up THIS IS ONLY A DRILL. Luckily that did come through b
Thank you.
Thank you for the insights and the work that you do
Sounds like a cool job. Keep up the good work.
Thank you for the insight. Sounds like a very interesting job, albeit quite taxing on mental health when things do happen.
Since catastrophic incidents are quite rare however, I'm wondering what you and your team are doing while there are no emergencies. Are you doing regular drills every now and then and just standing by the rest of the time, or do you perform other functions in the airline in the meantime?
We’ve only had one accident in 1983 so we’re a pretty safe airline
I'll fly, then. How much does it cost for a ticket eh?
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@@ozkarschroeder deal
You are OBVIOUSLY NOT Kim Jong Un A.K.A missile man. You are in a coma.
@@Think_Inc HOW DARE YOU QUESTION OUR GLORIOUS LEADER!
“Just about once every three days, somewhere in the world, a large commercial passenger plane crashes.”
*_In the before times, when the world had yet to be ravaged..._*
If you die of coronavirus because your plane was cancelled does it count as an aircraft fatality? :p
Flown 50k miles since mid March when the lockdowns started. Besides ridiculous routing it’s been business as usual for some of us.
Flights in Europe have already started back up, with people now going on holiday to various destinations around Europe.
@@uwu_senpai No.
In the long long ago.
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Who responds if the Go Team's plane crashes while they are en route to a crash site? The Go Go Team? 🤔
Fair question lol.
I imagine they have reserves for big airlines
Un2 but then it's the gogogogogogogo team :/
Actually it's the Go Go Team Team.
But now you need 2 teams, this can get out of hand pretty fast
Yes SouthWest went the expensive way BUT, that amount of rapid response, warm communication, economic compensation and care for the people aboard that airliner even though SW didnt know whether they were at fault or not, created an even more loyal pool of customers and a more positive image in the eyes of the public. So even though it is initially the more expensive routes when responding to an aircraft accident, SW can collect profits on that response thanks to the positive marketing it does for the image.
Funny, I saw something about SouthWest yesterday on the news or something
Too bad recently they blew the goodwill that all that great press gave them due to a myopic equipment routing and woefully antiquated staff scheduling system. That fiasco is estimated to cost them >$500M USD... and they still have to replace the systems estimated at $200M - $300M USD.
Ahhh aged just like milk
"The remaining crew will be dealt with"
Not treated or cared for? Harsh.
they must be killed to protect what they know
well if you fuck up piloting a plane...
Gamer Gril with a shotgun in the hanger or behind it. If they know too much.
they cant have the crew speak to passengers or the media in case they have to claim crew/pilot error to save their arses
@@gamergril5940 oño
06:38 Fun fact from an airline employee: The special call center used for aircraft incidents is typically referred to as the Passenger Inquiry Center in the US, and is jointly operated by a few of the big name airlines from across the globe. Activating the line comes from the company whose aircraft was involved in the incident, but they can request partial or full assistance from the other member airlines depending on the circumstances (ie. accidents in other countries/continents).
*Edit: spelling error.
Wow that is really interesting. It’s one of those things that when you think about it, of course it makes sense, but you never thought about it before. Thanks for sharing!
*whose
@@tompeled6193 you beat me to it. W-h-o-'-s=W-h-o i-s.
@@tompeled6193 Thanks! I missed that while replying from work.
Very fitting that your "fun fact" isn't all that fun. Don't feel bad. FAA regulations don't allow any room for fun. That's why they were able to shut down the concord program. People who are having fun become care-free, people who are care-free become complacent, AND THEN 3 DAYS LATER YOU CRASH, though probably not fatally.
As a Marine Helicopter crewman I was part of our "Emergency reclamation team". We were the Marines that would fly into a crash first. This being the military, our priorities were different. Some of the classified equipment was to be removed or destroyed BEFORE we helped the crew. That was tough.
Advanced technologies falling into the hands of the enemy can later harm even more of our side, that’s the logic behind the protocol.
@Brisk Kik To be fair though the crew of the crashed aircraft they likely already knew the risk and how it would go if they crash.
Thank you for your service
It's a shame that they value lives that little (but I guess if you weighed up costs it might work out that the money saved could pay to help more people, but still, I doubt that anyone would get to it that quickly and other countries aren't intrinsically worse than your home country, so I don't know)
@Bryce Osborn I doubt it it costs 100,000s of dollars to train a pilot
Wendover: All the major airlines have had a fatal crash.
Qantas: am I a joke to you?
Well since 1952 anyways.
But yes I agree they're a very safe airline.
Was thinking that as soon as he said it
Aer Lingus hasn’t had one since the 50s
*Major*
@@OLBastholm lol as if Qantas isn't plausibly a "major" airline
I just realized that I never thought about the aftermath of plane crashes, outside the stereotypical _Hatchet_ lone-survivor premise. Obviously the survivors need to go _somewhere_ once they're done being statistics, but it's not newsworthy.
Guessing you were born After 2001? More specifically after: early to mid September of that year....
@@Orc-icide you don't need to be born after 2001 to be too young to remember that stuff.
Or live in the one country where that event mattered.
@SuperShadowChaos7 I remember when 9/11 happened. I was only 3 at that time. (born in 1998.)
@@romeodavis1052 I was born in 1993 so I was 8 y/o in 3rd grade when it happened. I remember being released from school in the oddest scenario then going home and realizing my father had regular routes from Baltimore to DC while working for Sysco. That's where my fear & understanding took course. The whole neighborhood just (every kid) just felt uneasy and staring in the sky for no reason. That day and that DC sniper rampage were the most eerie moments I've ever dealt with
@SuperShadowChaos7 95. I was pretty young. I remember watching the Welsh news with my teachers. My teachers wouldnt explain it to the English kids, so the Welsh kids said all sorts to the English kids and a bunch of silly rumours spread.
But my sister was very nearly in New York when it happened, thank god her holiday was cancelled last second. She was disappointed at the time but later not so much :/
You can’t spell Wendover Productions without airlines.
Just go with it.
Must be french...
i can! I don't need airlines to spell two words!
@JACKSON KUSTER l
*planes not lines.
**grabs neck** They said to go with it, so go with it.
Man, Southwest's response was so effective I had no idea they had suffered their first death. What a shame.
Still, that response proves why I love Southwest. They don't have the luxury of power, so they treat their customers well.
What exactly do you mean by them not having the "luxury of power"? They're the largest LCC in both the United States and the world, they were the third largest airline overall in North America in 2020, they are world's largest operator of the Boeing 737, and their brand image, customer support, and influence on other airlines and sheer amount of market share they hold is very large and impressive. They got to all of this _because_ they treat their customers well (it's what they're known for), but they certainly have a lot of power within the industry. When you think about all of this, it makes you like them more because, knowing that a negative response following a deferral of blame and then discovering they were to blame would be less harsh upon them because of their previous reputation, they still went for the expensive solution which prioritized their image and customers. They really care about their people and maintaining the persona of the world's friendliest airline.
@@GenAvAviation I agree. I was referring to how Southwest, despite being so large, is still not referred to when the big players in American aviation come up. It's always Delta, American, and United. Southwest is probably seen as a fourth place (I don't know, I don't watch airplane content), but they're still not one of the "Big Airlines", so they don't have the luxury of being able to throw away scandal.
@@TheHylianBatman Actually, Southwest is now often added to that list of the “big three” US airlines to make it the “big four”. They have achieved that status of being a gigantic US carrier, which is pretty cool.
@@GenAvAviation Well, I'm glad to hear that!
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נתב״ג 1:15
@@elliez.3561 מה?
HAI isn't all bad jokes
Isn’t it aeroplanes?
1:13 "Safety and profitability go hand in hand..."
Boeing:
This industry is responsible for the coining of the term "tombstone mentality" and throughout history they have put profits well ahead of safety.
Profits first,safety third or forth
Boeing is trying really hard to fix the problem. My mom is a Boeing Defense engineer and I can vouch that they care very deeply.
They tried, and it wasn’t going to go horribly if they turned off the autopilot system that they didn’t recommend turning off
@@snubblebubble4937 Unfortunately, it is likely that the Engineers have always cared...but the executives, especially those without a background in engineering, and those that are ultimately the decision makers, failed us.
Why did the airplane get sent to his room?
Bad altitude.
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You should have said "Why did the airplane get grounded".
actually "bad attitude" is a better joke but also a more niche joke, because "attitude" means the orientation of the aircraft with respect to a fixed reference frame (pitch, roll, yaw)
@@lucas29476 came here to say this hah
Yo when another big air crash inevitably happens this will get recommended. Hello people from the future hopefully the future is better than 2020
Bold to assume there is a future
It happened
@@ivebeenmemed it did?
@@orchdork775 look up Air India express flight 1344.
A bad plane crash will prob’s happen in 2020
7:10 Average Ryanair Cabin after a perfectly normal landing.
Only there would be no screens.
Or oxygen masks, those are €49.99.
Or seats that aren’t welded from front to back.
I remember when somebody asked what happens to luggage after an accident, and it was explained while complex recovery operations do happen for sentimental possessions (even from the bottom of a river in one famous case), for most items where baggage is not trivial to recover the airline will just give them a brand new replacement for anything the passenger claims was in their possession within a reasonable value (clothes, cameras, sporting equipment etc). The 2-3 hundred dollars per passenger on average will likely dwarf any later settlement so in most cases it's not worth the airline's time and risk to reputation to quibble over the ownership of a few personal effects.
This - Plus the fact I leave my bag unlocked for airside customs checks (Though I do apply tamper seals) - Is one reason why I keep the contents of my hold luggage below the claim levels given in the Athens convention. This way; If my bag is lost to an incident or otherwise mishandled (Mentioning no names, _British scAirways!_ 😉) the claim process is theoretically more straightforward, involves fewer steps, and increases the likelihood of compensation being obtained within a reasonable space of time. 👍
Unlike in many airport programmes I've watched, where people have put the strangest assortments of things - Like multi-K dollar gaming laptops, high value goods¹, prescription medicine needed during the flight - In their hold bags... 🧳♦😲
(¹ - Passenger was flying on an economy ticket... 🙃)
@@dieseldragon6756 Indeed, though the optics of a plane crash vs. lost or damaged luggage through less dramatic means does mean the airline is far more likely to enforce liability limits in the latter cases.
I can sort of understand why people do those things, the alternative is having a courier deliver it and for high value items that can be nearly as expensive as the airline ticket, plus it takes longer so might have to be shipped weeks in advance (and you need somewhere to hold it for you if it does arrive before you get there) and of course it's out of sight for a much longer period.
P.S. I think you mean the Montreal convention, Athens is for ships I believe.
@@Croz89 Aye, I did wonder if I'd misquoted the applicable statute. I recall seeing it in carrier conditions of carriage (Primarily; Ryanair) but given most of my international travel is with Eurostar (Who fall under the CIV) I guess I'm used to different sets of rules. 🚄📜😇
Personally, I tend to carry valuables on my person or in hand baggage - Not only so I can keep a personal eye on it, but it also makes customs checks and declarations easier to deal with - Remember; Between departure airside and arrival customs you're in a controlled environment where (If things are working properly) everybody is ID'd and recorded.
It's also safer for electrical items and anything pressure sensitive, and mandatory (By air carriage regs) for anything containing a lithium battery. 🔋
I still cannot understand some things people put in their checked bags, though. Extra meds makes sense (Assuming you've put enough for the flight and a few days baggage delay in your hand luggage) and perhaps bulky items that need customs declarations only (Cigarettes etc, remembering these will almost certainly lead to screening airside) but wads of cash, perishable items and things that are definitely *not* suitable for keeping in any storage unit (A good rule of thumb for what's OK in luggage) just blows my mind out of the water! 🤯
“Education: the path from cocky ignorance to miserable uncertainty.”
― Mark Twain
Fun fact: Since its founding in 1929, Hawaiian Airlines has never had a fatal crash, thus making it the oldest carrier in the world to have no fatal accidents.
Actually, 1 flight attendant died when the roof of the fuselage flew off
That’s for Aloha Airlines flight 243. After the roof ripped of due to metal fatigue, the flight attendant was sucked out
Be the change you wish to see in the world
OP gonna make sure that changes
Don’t jinx it
Drinking game: take a shot every time he says “accident”
I don't feel too good
There are easier and cheaper ways to end ones life.
I have a game like that when I listen to local radio talk shows. I take a shot everytime someone says "you know". Easy way to get drunk real quick. Try it sometime.
Watch the K/T-impact episode of the BBC's show "Catastrophe," and drink every time the V/O says "...*including* the dinosaurs!"
.
...Use really small shot-glasses, though.
Finish your drink every time he says "therefore'
Cool thumbnail dude!
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Rammstein album cover, Reise,Reise
@@jathnieljoaquin6214 didn't noticed it
@@bronkolie you definitely don't watch kibitz his name sounds popular and you have heard of him and that's it
01:06
“The fact is that people fear planes an irrational amount”
Says mr Layover Productions.
Not as much as they fear cops, not only are planes safer than cars, they're safer than being black.
@@Orc-icide Not that I like race politics being brought up here, but you're definitely right.
Xz35 blue man bad
@@thesauciestboss4039 Well, yes. What exactly do these 'blue men' do, that justifies them being more trigger happy and less accountable than soldiers in a warzone?
@@charlie7mason The thing is, soldiers leave for war for 6 months. Whilst a police officer is out in the streets serving the public 24/7 365 days. Trigger happy cops mostly (from what I've seen on Reddit) suffered PTSD which makes them react that way. We know that a black man is most likely to be shot, because they're armed. Only 14 unarmed black man was shot in the previous year.
“This video as made possible by Raycon”
WAIT WAIT WAIT are you saying that Raycon causes all crashes???
@Mahmut Atalay *toxic plays*
Yes
They sound bassy enough to whack a plane out of the sky.
"to airlines, airplane crashes are a financial problem."
2020: wait, there's more
“Just about once every 3 days, somewhere in the world, a large commercial passenger plane crashes.”
*You have my attention.*
A plane that overrun the runway is considered crashed, same for a plane that hit the terminal while trying to dock, so the definition is quite big here.
meh, a plane crash can be anything from an extremely devastating incident to a baggage cart that strikes an aircraft at the terminal, take it with a grain of salt
Arakwar I understand that...just saying that it’s a great opening hook.
@@brooklyncore3819 That's the thing, an incident and an accident are two completely separate things. An incident is classified as an accident under certain conditions, including someone getting seriously hurt, severe structural damage or the plane goes missing (like MH370).
raycon earbuds fit so well that they won't even fall off during a plane crash!
Lol these are everywhere 😂😂
Oof
The 11th September 2001 would like to have a word with you
It beats my wifes AirPods that won't fall out because her hears swelled shut. Half kidding.
Mmm, but ur head is likely to fell off during plane crash. Hehe he 😉
Aircraft mechanic here. I've found damage blades before. It's definitely a satisfaction to be able to catch issues before a potential disaster
Something about seeing all those loved ones gathered together in a large room really hit me heavy and almost made me tear up. I hope I never have to experience something like that in my life.
I have neither. Hope you never do.
A plane crashes. Every single person dies. Who survives?
Every couple
Dude 🤣🤣🙌🙌🔥🔥
good one :)
Okay thats pretty good
You see Ashley, I'm telling you, you're better off with me!
I was trying to understand it but know that I did it is amazing 😂😂😂😂
03:07
“With them they bring a Go Kit”
I like to imagine it comes with GoGurt.
And a go kart?
Naw they have go go me gadget he brings everything
@@oxygen1802 and Pokémon go
@@kamikazesenpai21 and a TV to watch teen titans go
“Arline’s Protocol for After a Plane Crash”
Let me guess... _Wendover Productions?_
Correct, first step of protocol is to get Wendover Productions to make a video about it.
The next step is probably to get off the plane...
... I haven't watched the video yet.
This video is pretty good overview of what happens. Worked in Aviation for 50 years in Flight Operations Flight Control and was part of the Emergency team. We handled more than just crashes. Things like when weather shut down airports, pandemic, local emergencies affecting operations.
737 Max: Flies again
Sam: The after plane crash protocol
Southwests First Ever*
Everyone always forgets the asterisk
August 11, 2000 - a 19 yo man died after trying to storm the cockpit, this is the first death onboard a Southwest Aircraft
December 8, 2005 - WN1248 slides off the runway at Chicago Midway (MDW) Striking a car killing the passenger in the car, this is the first death to happen in relation to a Southwest accident.
August 27, 2016 - WN3472s #1 Engine exploded. This should have been a warning sign of things to come. (This is known to some as “The Pensacola Incident”)
April 17, 2018 - WN1380s #1 Engine explodes killing 1 passenger, this is the first death onboard in relation to a Southwest accident.
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Orange World The 2nd and 3rd don’t count because the 2nd one didn’t happen inside a southwest aircraft and the 3rd one had no fatalities.
This was in my recommended. Was there a crash today?
Adding to NarwhalX, the first one shouldn't count either, as it wasn't their fault that a jackass who hurt the other passengers and tried to attack the pilots would be struck down and (accidentally) killed by the concerned passengers. Imagine the risk of keeping that bastard alive who could crash the flight and kill everyone.
I had a family member on the southwest flight and they went above beyond what I expected. I drove to Philly to get them and actually had a problem with my car and Southwest actually arranged for me to stay the night in a hotel with my aunt. I didn't even ask but when they heard that I was stranded with my 2 daughters along with my aunt they set us up with separate rooms and transportation.
"they require a level a safety that's very high"
Pakistan International Airlines: "they do?"
2:42 that women getting pushed out the way lol
Read this as i seen that what an ahole
F
Lovell Mills me too
woman
"Almost every airline out there will have what's called... a goatee"
10:05 - You missed the part about Southwest having that exact same failure 20 months earlier on another aircraft and the FAA caving to pressure from Southwest and American to not make inspecting fan blades mandatory for economic reasons.
That changes everything!
Either poor research or that fact messing up their story. You pick.
I love watching your videos about topics that I actually know about. Long ago (even before this video) I was a member of a major airline's Go Team.
This is a top notch explanation. Bravo 👏
I think that the Southwest response was the best one. Take blame right away weather you're right or wrong. Even if it costs more money, it will bring more customers in the future.
I love how this guy has 2 informational channels, one where he jokes around a lot, and how he seamlessly transitions from funny to serious.
*plane crashes"
airline executives: "im never going to financially recover from this"
It's true, some airlines literally folded after just one crash. Well, some did were already in deep financial trouble when one of their planes crashed and it often the final nail in the coffin.
Or you can just be like Boeing and make a plane that frequently crashes and brings the company to its knees, then leverage a pandemic to bail you out
@@user-ze7tl2dw4i do you really think Boeing did it on purpose?
@@romanszwarc3288 ? No? I said Boeing made a shit plane and instead of financially suffering from it, they used the pandemic as an excuse to bail them out of their shit decision making.
@@user-ze7tl2dw4i Citation needed
I’m part of the crisis management team for my airline. Our protocol is almost 100% similar to what you described in the video.
*"Alright, after crash checklist please"*
I think they will have a more "formal" name for the checklist like: unintended damage from high velocity collision checklist
@@nice1149ss it's not a crash, it's just a rapid unscheduled disassembly
@@nice1149ss They do have a nice acronym. CFIT. From Wikipedia:
"A controlled flight into terrain (CFIT, usually pronounced cee-fit) is an accident in which an airworthy aircraft, under pilot control, is unintentionally flown into the ground, a mountain, a body of water or an obstacle. In a typical CFIT scenario, the crew is unaware of the impending disaster until it is too late. The term was coined by engineers at Boeing in the late 1970s."
@@nice1149ss 😄😂😂😂
MIZU there actually is a checklist: emergency evacuation and it's printed on cockpit equipment vs paper or digital.
North Korea is an expert with safety, they're 6 stars according to them
Out of 10? Thats poor safty
Rainbow Dash 6/5 stars
Air Koryo safest airline in world
To be fair they never crashed.
Air Koryo never crashed, the food is decent the waitresses are quick it’s not bad at all. The propaganda music is annoying thi
This is literally spot on! I used to work for a very well known airline at an outstation and this was my project to ensure the whole station were familiar with our emergency response procedures (erp)
A good overview on the overall. I served as a leader in these programs at two major US airlines during my airline career.
Even though I’ll never own an airline:
Write this down, write this down!
@4:36 "The largest group in the (Airlines) Go-Team is typically the humanitarian assistance team... " AKA: "The Lawyers".
Included in the 'once every three days', for 2019 as an example, 20-25% seemed to be injuries due to turbulence.
I didn't find 'runway accidents account for more than 90%' in 2019 , unless perhaps you include turbulence on approach or departure, but I wouldn't think that counts as a runway accident. It certainly seemed to be more than half though, including things such as:
a passenger fell off the stairs
parked and slowly taxiing planes getting knocked by ground craft
plane rolled forward during startup, hitting a light pole, with minor damage
towbar breaking during pushback, causing plane damage
+ a lot of landing gear damage, and tailstrikes
I think a lot of them wouldn't be thought of as aeroplane accidents by most people, even though they're defined that way.
For 2019, controlled flight into terrain = 0, loss of control = 2, with 12 & 19 or 20 onboard fatalities. The latter plane being at max capacity, so perhaps not what most people think of as a large commercial aircraft.
In the army, I was apart of a few DART missions (Downed Aircraft Recovery Team), this sounds pretty similar. Except we usually bring mechanics to toss the aircraft back into the air (depending on the level of destruction to the airframe).
Cry about how they could never have saw an accident happen even with engineers begging for changes to be made with faults.
The Iron Armenian aka G.I. Haigs it sucks but advancements are made in blood
Why are you here?
holy hell never expected to see you here lol
what is the point of putting more resources towards increasing safety of the safest method of transport in the world?
Wait the Iron Armenian is here? I’m not letting you off Mr. Stalin’s wild ride. Not now, not ever comrade.
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This was likely one of your most interesting videos! It's fascinating to see how doing the right thing somewhat aligns with corporate interests, to an extent ; while it's a bit more disappointing (but understandable I guess) that this is all still a numbers game and interests diverge over time "as the flaming pile of debris cools down". Nonetheless, it's great that you give insights into both ends of the equation objectively, without taking sides yourself, always inspiring people to reflect on the subject more deeply. Always a pleasure, keep the great things going and thanks again!
Would love to see a continuation of this discussing the technical sides of the accident investigation that the NTSB or other agencies and aircraft manufacturers conduct
6:46 Cologne/Bonn? Didn't know terminal 2 looked that way from the gates side, even though I'm living in (and sometimes flying from) Cologne
Love that airport! The perfect mix of being small enough for everything to run smooth and quickly but big enough for proper destinations. Also that rewe in there has carried my ass on multiple sundays 😂
I was just there yesterday
I was at koln
Where are the Great Plains located?
At the great airports.
Congrats on 1k subs!
Everything Science - two good jokes, one comments section
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@@kendeeks lol yeah, couldn't choose between the two, so just figured I'd put them both
As a commercial pilot and former major airline Go-team member/trainer, your video is accurate and very well done. 👍
Absolutely brilliant. Thanks so much for creating this video!
Well given that sam has predicted everything else that has happened this year, I won't be flying anytime soon.
too bad buddy, I've got a new SSTO for you to test, you better hope this one flies better than the last one.
And if you survive that afterwards i have a few new rockets that need some testing
Matt Lowne do be calling
"This video was made possible by Raycon"
Hmm, totally not suspicious
Wait what are you implying?
Kamilah Maudsley They’re implying that Raycon causes plane crashes. I’m almost 100% sure they’re joking though.
Amanuel Adane hmm I’m not totally sold on that explanation, mostly because I’m still baffled by the comment.
But since no one’s offered a better one so far, I’ll go with it for now.
Ian Eriksson I may not be sure of their intention, but I’m 98% sure it wasn’t that. Might be your own bias peaking out from under your baseball cap, just sayin’
_Oh Karen_
I've flown on a flight with the Captain of that SWA aircraft. She is one calm, cool cat.
Just watched this again after a day of watching dozens of news stories, and forums chat about JAL516 which landed ontop of Coast Guard DHC-8-315 Dash 8 at Haneda, Japan.
Is there a source for the "one crash of a large passager airplane every three days" figure? It seems extremely high to me, unless "crash" has a very unusual definition.
He’s defining crash as incident, so that’s including when a baggage truck hits a plane at the gate, runway overruns, gear up landings etc... don’t take it too literally
Also upon Landing tires pop and explode all the time without people on board knowing but it does count as a crash since it wasn't fully safely landed on the runway.
I agree that a “crash” every 3 days seems high. Perhaps the word “incident” would be a better fit? In aviation emergencies are classified as an Alert I - A precautionary approach where a suspected emergency exists on an aircraft, but the nature of the emergency would not normally make the anticipated landing unsafe (open door indicator in the cockpit). Alert II - An actual aircraft emergency exists in flight, and an accident may well occur resulting in injuries and aircraft damage (gears stuck up/flap issue). Alert III - Signifies an actual aircraft accident has occurred (plane goes off of the runway). I’d be curious if all types of emergencies are considered crashes in this case.
Crash has a better SEO value. Incident is a little weak.
Once every 3 days seem pretty low to me to be honest. There were 170.000 DAILY commercial flights in 2019, and apparently one in 200.000 flights crash. A crash once every 3 days would mean one crash every 500.000 flights, which is really low
As someone in the maritime industry, this is fascinating. It's always fun to check in with our endearingly idiosyncratic airborne cousins.
I'd say you have the upper hand. There are more planes in the ocean than there are boats in the sky.
Incredibly good info. I love your channel so much, and this video is one of my favorites, because it plays to my interests. This was incredibly accurate and well presented with incredible information and was quite informative. I am a member of USAF CAP and have recently taken courses on many aspects of ES such as ICS and NIMS and this covered the commercial and airlines portion incredibly well. Just being nitpicky here, if you wanted to geek out more, a great note to add would be the Liaison Officers that would most likely be part of the Go-Team's communication unit that would be responsible for communicating to and from the airline and the airline's Go-Team to other organizations such as the NTSB, FAA, possibly FBI and/or CIA, local/state ES authorities, and possibly CAP as well as many other organizations. It is quite fascinating how they work together, and I think could even be it's own video. Again, absolutely excellent content, keep it up!
Cheers to another EXCELLENT video. I'll never get tired of watching these.
Yes, thank you for posting this while I'm waiting for my flight at the airport.
That's crazy! I had no idea there were so many plane crashes, but it makes sense considering the volume of planes flying each day. Still safer than driving! I do wonder how the stats compare between flying commercially, riding on a train, driving a car, riding on a bus, maybe even commercial boat travel, and any other mode of transportation commonly used that I can't think of right now. Very interesting!
It goes even farther than that. I worked at a small airport that had express service for a major US airline. We had to keep a copy of the final passenger manifest and a copy of the flight release signed by the pilots for every departing flight for 24 hours in case something happened. This also included a copy of the weight and balance form. Finally, we had a small "go" kit with forms to get information from survivors if possible if an accident occurred at our station or nearby.
As I had worked at the airport for 19 years with a major airline, I understand very well what this video wanted to explain although fortunately I had never encountered such a tragedy where I had been working. However, I remember that one of my old colleagues had told me at that time about her " indirect" experience which had happened in 1970s...
1:05 - wendover says there is a massive level of safety
Part 135 ops: hold my beer
Chances of dying in a car crash: 1/11,700
Chances of dying in a plane crash: 1/11M
Flying is safe people. by almost 1000%
Car crash is actually 1/103, making it more like 8.000.000%
As a former member of two different airline outstation response teams, I'd say that this was a very good overview.
7:36 Nothing to fill a person with anxiety like a room almost completely packed with people.
"Some of these largest airlines are also some of the safest, yet none are 100% safe"
*Qantas having not had a fatal crash since jet engines replaced propellers on its commercial aircraft in 1952:*
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isndijeowei people saying this in the comments better not jinx them 💀
"Crashing this plane...with no survivors!"
Wendover, peaking out from his row of seats: "Actually, it's very rare for a even fatal crash to have NO survivors."
I am a volunteer for the Emergency Response team for one of the major US airlines! This is an excellent video!
Airline based episodes are by far the most interesting content on this, I love it!
Airlines planning to reintroduce the 737 MAX: "WRITE THIS DOWN! WRITE THIS DOWN!"
Someday I'll be matured enough to stop thinking that 737 looks like an Face about to kiss me
Hey just so you know the Southwest flight you were talking about was actually Southwest 1380, not 1308.
I am an A330 pilot for a major airline and I never knew most of this. Thanks, very interesting!
I used to fly SW all the time to the east coast, and after doing some research I figured out that I had ridden in the exact SW plane that lost the window. I may well have sat in the exact same seat as the woman who died - as I usually ended up somewhere near the middle of the plane looking at the engines.
Now I will only sit in the very, very back.
1:03 "The truth is that people fear airplanes an irrational amount"
Me: *Laughs in MSFS2020*
"These pretzels are making me thirsty!"
Just go to the lavatory for a drink?....
Put your cup by the tap and let the nice warm drink flow out of you.
it’s the urinator!!
Makes me think back to my Marketing Policy class in 1990-91 when we had to revisit the Tylenol poisoning case and response as a case study. A well planned crisis response may cost a lot up front, but in the long term, it may be more beneficial to the company, especially with regards to damage control.
In the US, crashes are treated primarily as accidents to be learned from and are not typically investigated as crime scenes unless warranted based on circumstances. Many other countries treat crashes primarily as crime scenes and are investigated by criminal authorities with any learnings from the crash being secondary. The former is less emotionally satisfying, especially when gross negligence is involved, but ultimately better serves safety. The former provides the satisfaction of seeing airline pilots in handcuffs, but causes all parties to shut up and lawyer up, which doesn’t serve safety. So you seldom see carriers accept responsibility in those countries where criminal charges will be forthcoming.
Also, when an airline does accept responsibility, their words are crafted carefully to apologize for the pain caused by the accident but almost never do they admit culpability or liability in a legal sense.
This episode should have been sponsored by Amtrak
8:35 punctuation is critical. Sign say "Boeing put saftey first not business"
We know what she meant but c'mon do it right.
I think the bigger issue is she misspelled "safety" and wrote "saftey" instead.
The colouring & size of the words doesn't help either...
That was a really great breakdown of a unique job!
Great topic! Much needed in general youtube! Awesome 👏 thx