I Overlooked This Hydro Unit | Arlecchino Post-Release Analysis
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Timestamps
0:00 Intro
0:12 Starting with more BoL
2:18 More about front-loaded dmg
3:39 Canceling her Charged Attack animation
7:16 Her passive in Multi wave content
7:55 Weapons
8:22 EQE for lots of particles
10:05 You should not build ER
10:20 Artifact Sets
12:16 Artifact Stats
12:59 Click normal attack button until you have to dodge
13:27 Anemo units
14:36 Vape teams
16:18 Layla
17:18 Personal favorite vape team
21:50 Other hydros for vape
23:22 She can be good in other teams
23:54 Chevreuse
25:13 Xianyun Double Hydro
25:49 More chevreuse
26:43 Mono pyro - zhongli burst for AoE
28:13 Burgeon
28:41 AoE
29:58 Chiori
30:20 OverVape
30:35 More about Xianyun plunge team
31:55 Melt
34:31 Abyss Blessings are inflating her numbers
35:58 Closing thoughts
37:23 Outro 
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i pulled arlecchino specifically to have a good candace team thank you streamer
average candace main W
Candace 🤝 Dehya : carrying the best dps's in the game
@@shimeji_e Wait Dehya what now?? I just pulled her
@@webbedshadow2601Dehya is basically C1 for Neuvillette
@@webbedshadow2601she works in a C0 Neuvillette team
👎: pull arlechino to be your carry
👍: pull Arlechino to suport candace
Candace finally getting her time to shine in the spotlight right around the time of her birthday too
*[sigh]* Who's Candace?
IF you have C6, which has unfortunately always been the case, she's really good at C6 (she's really good in Nilou teams at C6 for example) and worthless below that.
I noticed that😂 very cool
If you've got seven copies of her which damn near nobody will LOL
She's been blooming for me ever since
31:53 The stop doing plunge meme was absolute perfection, thank you editors Gladge
As someone who loves plunGe, this meme was peak. Better than most Genshin memes.
They truly have played us for absolute fools
editor actually kept in the part where he tried to remember the meme AND made "stop doing plunge", 100/10
Zajeff doing everything in his power to NOT play Yelan has become kinda funny at this point
For this unit at c0 yelan is the best offensive option for dmg sure but ZL and xingqiu overall are just better options imo, Candace is a cool idea though lol
That's BASED.
Triggering yelan fan boys is fun.
Based, XQ is just better or in arlecchino's case Candace is better
@@frsteemidimagine making choices in a single player game to “trigger” people that don’t even know of your existence. Y’all wild
She's strong enough to clear the abyss fast. An additional glass cannon isn't better than the comfort of defensive options. Yes you can clear faster but the chance of retrying more is also higher.
GIGACHAD editors thank you for editing this in 48h so fast! great work!
As a long time Candace appreciateor, I'm glad my polearm only account awakened Zajef to Candace having a relevant kit lol (at C6, which has always been her problem)
it's soluna
I'm so happy! It's refreshing being able to play with underutilized units. And now I'm even seeing Candace speedruns. Glad she has her time to shine since her kit is so unique.
Anything that gives me a reason to play Candace or Dehya is always welcome.
Moood
I’m so happy Candance is finally getting some love; her character design is too cool to just be left unused and forgotten
For real, her design is 5 star worthy
Candace nilou bloom is one of my favorite teams, it's clean and fun
finally. based arleccino has ended racism. but not for pyro units.
sadly no c6 so i can’t use her :(
Me using her in Kaeya Freeze since I got her C6 in the first Baizhu banner: 🤔
Just a note on the charged attack: it doesn't trigger Masque of the red Death, but still benefits from the pyro infusion and the +40% pyro damage Arlecchino gets. This means you can use it to 'save' your bond of life in cases where you just need to finish an enemy off before the next wave spawns for example. I've also gotten into a habit of sometimes doing 1 or 2 normal attacks and then combo'ing it into a charged attack. This way you can be more conservative with your bond of life. This is by no means a speedrunning tactic but it can be strategically used to conserve bond of life when it makes sense.
I actually use her CA to close the gap between spaced enemies after I finish off one of them.
It also has low backswing animation, meaning that you can immediately do another CA or start your NAs without waiting for the animation to end. This also makes her CA extremely spammable and easy to chain (2 CAs can quickly cover a large distance especially in abyss when there are trash mobs kiting away from you)
Plus, her 1st NA hit aggressively thrusts toward an enemy like how Raiden does so you don't need to worry about your NAs missing
If you combine all of these together, her mobility while in combat is surprisingly fast and smooth. No need to do dashes to catch enemies when just 1 or 2 CAs can get you near them lol
@@ASerokai Oh yeah for sure, the mobility aspect is huge as well!
@@ASerokaii love her auto targeting charge attack, especially in overworld where enemy like to scatter left and right, you kill 1 enemy press charge attack and the auto targeting will teleport you right in front of your next enemy as long they not to far away, 10/10 best close range character
Doing 1 or 2 normal attacks can guarantee a vape first hit. So good on you for siscovering that first. It is used for speedruns sometimes.
@@ASerokaithat's very helpful but really works against playing in Bennett's circle impact. It really sucks since Arlecchino has incredible mobility for a carry. Her Hold CA levitation helps to chase enemies that dodge around like Wenut, Ruin Serpent, vishap twins, and even the mindless wandering xiangling mekas.
Arlecchino is much more suited for portable buffs and hydro than stationary fighting.
Guys… for a second there I saw a 280% Er bennet… *with an EM weapon*
Jesus Jef what kind of dark magic you did with your artifacts man
RIGHT? I use fav and I'm only at 297%. For Zajef's 280% ER Benny with EM sword to be possible, assuming you are using an ER sands, your four other artifacts than sands would need an average of 25% ER on each one.
his constellation gives 30 er under 70 hp so do discount that
C6 Candace stonks rising.
Big thanks to Zajef and the editing team for these videos.
Playing Chevreuse Arlecchino is some of the most fun i've had in genshin in YEARS
Knave,Fishel, Beidou, Chevreuse is my favorite team .
@@ViralwingX imo this is also the best team fun-wise, I don't care if she does less damage without bennett she can still clear abyss easily and it feels much more comfortable that vape
@@ViralwingXI’m the same except Thoma has instead of beidou cos his c6 na bonus and I think he’s cute :p
Sorry about your Chevreuse situation. Overload has been my favorite comp to play, and provided one at least attempts dodging here or there (I do NOT know dodge timing), Beidou offers plenty of defensive utility against the most aggressive content in the game. Coppelius in abyss 12 with Arle was the easy side for me
Edit: My Chevreuse is C0
Tbh the "just dodge" thing isn't really necessary for shieldless teams. My previous experiences with Souls games and Monster Hunter taught me that _positioning_ and knowing your Damage Windows are equally valuable. Enemies generally considered hard and aggressive like the Consecrated Beasts have huge blind spots during a lot of their movesets. So long as you're facing those types of enemies and not the ones with bs hitboxes, AoEs, tracking or almost zero telegraph in their attacks like the Primo Geovishap, Abyss Lectors/Heralds or the Fatui Operatives, you should be fine with not i-framing attacks and just rely on attacking them from the side where they're not attacking.
Real, ive seen most content creators run her in vape but honestly it doesn't feel as good to me. Chevy teams have felt so comfortable and easy to play, rotations feel smoother and they clear perfectly fine
@@EdenVixit's only comfy if you have c1, I played her a lot c0 with vape and was kind ok but I want to play her without relying in shields or dodge bc she is all about spam NA, so I got her c1 which is just unreal, the damage and the resistance interruption are just crazy.
And I think it's about preference too, I love to play her in AoE so I could never use overload, but I understand how comfy/easier or smooth it is
@@youraverageguy4930 full agree, even more so since I play Yoimiya and with ranged attacks you can just stay completely out of enemy range, plus overload stun no shield is necessary
C6 candace. I can't even remember her being on any banner
She was on Cyno's banner, Baizhu's banner, and Navia's banner. Hope she shows up in more character banners. Only had 3 runs so far.
@@flamezforthegamez1056that explains it for me, she's only been reran in banners for 5 star characters I haven't pulled for, and I pulled in Cyno banner only to get her
4 stars are becoming rarer than 5 stars. WTF is wrong with this game.
Getting 4 stars has become harder than 5, mine is only C1
@@RKNancy Kaveh mains have been dying of thirst for a year now lmao
rly happy with the state or arle, shes strong but not overpowered and has a lot of potential for skill expression.
I think with c1r1 she is overpowered ngl. Especially compared to other c1r1 units.
I love how quickly you correct your analysis from before. If there's anything you find wrong, you call it out right away haha. Thank you for all the work you put in for the community, especially with the weapon numbers for zyox guides. Cheers bro!
I've realized that my 230cv glad set really, really outclasses my 220cv whimsy set that costed me like 30 fragile resin, basically because I had noone using 4pc glad that she just got the most cracked, insane pieces with spare atk rolls that I won't be able to catch up with on whimsy. (I had like 400 more atk from substats lol)
That’s only 10 cv didn’t expect it to be that big of a damage difference guess attack really is king on arlecchino
@@Rakaan238People really underestimate the value of ATK on ATK scalers in their relentless pursuit of crit value. 10 cv is like 2.5 rolls. 400 ATK is significantly more than that.
I need 30+ total substats to even get close my current glad set and to be an upgrade it needs almost equal amount, which is honestly unlikely to happen anytime soon. Sigh, artifacts are a scam.
At least there's nothing else to farm until Natlan, so it doesn't feel as bad to farm the new set, but I will certainly morb if I don't get an upgrade by Natlan's release.
@@feelshowdy Yeah, exactly that. It's just maths after all
never thought id see the day where i would want c6 candace
Hoyo is on a mission to make all the characters (except Aloy) somewhat viable.
Dehya will have her day in the sun
@@qaztim11 hoping for chongyun's time to shine
@@CaptainMeleon Chongyun already had his day in the OG National team, abeit very brief before Sucrose took over.
@@qaztim11 ib4 Dehya being Murata's best support
@@CaptainMeleon Ive been using him with XianYun, in melt/shatter teams teams, very effective,
I actually use her CA to close the gap between spaced enemies after I finish off one of them.
It also has low backswing animation, meaning that you can immediately do another CA or start your NAs without waiting for the animation to end. This also makes her CA extremely spammable and easy to chain (2 CAs can quickly cover a large distance especially in abyss when there are trash mobs kiting away from you)
Plus, her 1st NA hit aggressively thrusts toward an enemy like how Raiden does so you don't need to worry about your NAs missing
If you combine all of these together, her mobility while in combat is surprisingly fast and smooth. No need to do dashes to catch enemies when just 1 or 2 CAs can get you near them lol
Good day to have a C6 Candace! Been wanting to build her and now I finally a good reason to, aside from her drip obviously, she's one of the best looking characters imo
The fact that Candace finally have her place in the meta around her birthday is so unintentionally wholesome. 🎉
Even this video recorded exactly on her birthday.
She was good in nilou yaoyao bloom
I wish I had C6 Candace.
So happy I have C6 Candace and C6 Kaeya. Just wish I could get Arlecchino. Im on a 50/50 and am bordering the line that enters soft pity. Man, I want Arlecchino so bad. I have many characters for her that I can experiment with from the aforementioned C6 Kaeya and C6 Candace , C6 Diona, C6 Thoma, Dehya, even C2 Yelan, TTDS Tankfei, Chevreuse (c1 for now), Layla C5, etc.
I just want a good reason to use Candace. Ive already got her built and had a blast using trial Arlecchino in the Vibrations event with C6 Candace. Man, I really hope I win it. 😊
I've been using her for on-field Kaeya Freeze: similar damage as C6 Xingqiu against 3 enemies and better aligned cooldowns.
Surely Candace C6 was made and released for Arlecchino that's gonna release many patches later..
31:52 peak. its absolutely perfect
I really don't like the fact that the tv hides a big portion of the edges of the screen, just letting you know
Thank you for making this video! I pulled Arlecchino and have been pretty happy with her so far. Particularly pleased that the melt wasn't as bad as previously thought, as I enjoy using my Cryo characters a lot.
I was finally going to sleep, but a new zajeff video is out
Dehya C2 is a great defensive option for Arly overload teams.
I'm dying on this hill.
I love her so much. She’s the only character I’ve ever WANTED cons on. Not because she needs them (she 100% doesn’t. Super strong even at c0), just because I wanted to make her even stronger. Thankfully I managed to get her c2. Been saving since 4.0 though.
not the 21 open spreadsheets in excel 💀
we do be WatchingExcelWithTheBois fr
Can you move his cam off the spreadsheets next time? Especially the weapons list was unreadable. Thank you!
Even if it's just at the beginning of the section or something so we can at least pause it to look.
i really enjoyed using Layla against hard hitting cryo bosses like Coppelia and Coppelius, her shield is almost indestructible against them (and her NA dmg bonus on one of her constellations is a nice plus)
I didn't even knew Candance existed before this video *sad noises*
to be honest, people overrate the survivability problems. i played her in chev benny beidou team and could clear 1st side with no damage except the cryo kenki floor. she has SO much damage and chev teams have so much flexibility that you just can delay your damage and deal big damage later anyway. people should learn how to dodge if they gonna make characters like this lmao
People overrate problems on any character. It's just a matter on if they do high enough damage that they're otherwise payed despite those complaints.
Been waiting for this lol
Perfect timing. I literally pulled her a few minutes ago and went straight to youtube and saw this.
i heckin love candace
Candace is aging like fine chocolate
I completely agree on the Gladiator vs Whimsy sets and thats the same conclusion I came to myself. I simply wont be able to improve on my glad set with any reasonable amount of resin to make it worth farming, my only reason that I may farm that domain is speculatively maybe Chlorinde might use Bond of Life and be good in Whimsy, and in 5.0 some new natlan characters may have some amount of burning synergy (on the level of chevreuse's synergy with overload) that makes the other set worth running. We dont have definitive or even leaked info that supports that, so it's a gamble. Also I ran her through the Genshin optimizer with my gear and it turns out even with 2800 attack, an ATK% goblet with more crit subs is worth running over a relatively mid pyro goblet. It's actually like a 15-20 percentish increase and I feel that in game. So make sure to check your pieces in the optimizer
When your account matures, this is pretty much the case for any set. When farming for a single set with the same targeted stats, the odds of getting decent enough substats with the right main stats on a new 4 piece set for it to outdo your existing stuff is just too low. And so when you have a resin inefficient domain, well, there's no point unless you're doing it because the single character in question is a favorite of yours. They really, really, really need to let us pick one of the two sets to get, just to at least get rid of that automatic half strongbox fodder aspect. Otherwise, well, domains where both sets have uses, and ideally, at least one of the sets has different main stat desirability across various characters (Troupe being a prime example, with def% sandsfor the off-field geos, atk% sands for the off-field electros, and hp% sands for Furina, and different ones for the cups as well).
So,
C0-5 Candace ❌
C6 Candace ✅
Is that right?
YEP
The charged attack is also quite useful for quickly moving to a faraway enemy. The animation is quick and the range is really good so I often use CA like that instead of dashing towards enemies.
Nice beard dude
Also I love that you talk about floor investment/non optimized players ❤
23:41 omfg, thank you for reminding me about that vibro crystal event, I genuinely forgor. Last 3 days on Asia server when I checked earlier. 💀
is there a video of how i can actually play the teams? like idk how to play double cryo with the cryo aura being on enemy the hole time and melting the correct/best hits. or how am i supposed to play the layla hydro team when you said you dont want arle to melt layla.
Did you try double Geo/Pyro team E.g ( Arle -bennet - Yunjin - another Geo ) ? how bad is it compared to her Vape teams ?
How is mona’s hydro app with arle? Is it enought? Because when I tested it it felt really good, against the triple kenki it was faster than with xingqiu (dont have yelan or c6 candace) and the rotations felt good to play. I played Arle, ttds mona, kazuha (without burst it felt like monas hydro app was enough) and bennett
boutta build my candace now, thank you sir
Thank you editors for your hard work with the plunge meme 🙏🙏
Kinda unrelated question. Havent really played much genshin since sumeru, maybe explored less than 10% of it. Havent played since the start of fontaine and have 0 primogems. What's the fastest way to earn primos as I wanna pull for Arlechino?
Would you recommend fischl or raiden shogun more in a bennett, chevreuse, arlecchino team
Thanks Mr Zechef. I'm gonna aim for Candace C6 now.
Is using that opera girl not good?. I dont use her but have her at c6
Brother i get 200 ping so i cant hutau jump cancle properly but i do have homa. So do i go c1 or go plung hu tao and get a new animo healer bird
this is the only time i want c6 candace like i want a c6 chev.
hoping natlan has a dedicated BoL support units Praying...
With natlan coming im very reserved in pulling on pyro units. As im an archon and sovereign collector ill be waiting on both the pyro ones and see if they're similar to arle. Then ill pull for arlech
14:14 So if I have a godly atk goblet and a 0 cv pyro dmg goblet, with the assistance of kazuha, Atk should be better?
Candace gaming LETSGO
I might try vape Arlecchino team if I can get Candace to c6 but I wanted to have a change of pace and went with overload. So far it's been pretty fun and tho I don't get the crowd control that other teams will get (c'mon hoyoverse!) I can clear most content with her team.
Rare Candace W
pulled lyney on his first banner to have a reason to use dehya and now i pulled arlecchino to have a reason to use candace. my sumeru girls finally getting unbenched.
so, if I can use barbara, should nilou + her weapon be fine too?
For ayato wouldnt pairing him with venti makes the hydro app more reliable ontop of being quad scaling himself?
Burgeon is ironically my favorite Arlecchino team by far, its so fun. I just run her with Nahida, Kirara, and Xingqiu, but Ill probably just run Candace now
I am really confuse about that is Arle,xiangling,bennett,xingqiu a good team?Since for the last slot I would usually put kazuha but his dmg bonus doesnt seems to be that good for Arlecchino but putting xingqiu in the team would give me defensive util and some vapes or even reverse vapes
Xiangling and Arle apply too much pyro and XQ reverse vape is copium. Replace xiangling with someone else like sucrose/kazuha or zhongli/dehya/thoma and you're good to go
how do you feel about Mona as an Arlecchino support? Since she's so frontloaded, wouldn't Mona work well?
GIGACHAD editors
i have 250cv glad randomly in my acc (didn't even know this until i geared arle). don't think it's getting replaced, like ever
About her signature set (although you proabably will talk about it in her own pre-release), is it good enough for Clorinde? Or is she also just best to stick to a well rolled gladiator or gilded?
I used the optimizer for Arlechinno on my gladiator set compared to the exact same pieces in the new set, and yeah it's not really worth it, I'd have to spend like 50k resin to match those substats or even get a significant damage increase, but I'd at least try to go for one if it IS considerably better on Clorinde than other options.
TGS has a guide up for her, though she did get tweaked after he released it. But she has other options as well, including potentially TF being her BiS for the hyper/quick bloom teams. Don't know how/if the latest tweaks shifted all that, though. And that's an important thing to keep in mind. At this point, well, we're not even in the latter half of 4.6 yet. Lots of potential for changes, and so, too early to really make a clear cut statement on it.
mHY needs to put the new 4* units in the shop. Very difficult to get C6 Candace otherwise. Sigh... who am I kidding? They aren't gonna do sh*t.
I’ve had a C6 Candace just sitting around at level 20 and had no idea how and why to build so this is a win!
If I want both Zhongli and Candace, who is a better last slot - kazuha or benny?
i wonder if i should farm the new set or not. my glad pieces are awful lmao, so i've put 230cv gilded on her, was able to clear floor 12 with no problem
I have a question about the plunge attack part, Whats the issue there? am i missing something?
Arlecchino’s BOL gimmick does not buff her CA and plunges, only NAs
Meaning if ur doing plunges, u need to rely on cons of Xianyun(C2) to make Arlecchino’s plunge dmg impactful
Yelan/Xingqiu is a must if u want stable vape hits, Furina is too unstable and being at 50% hp is not fun
Meaning now ur running Arlecchino + Xianyun + Hydro + flex
That flex can be either Zhongli or Bennet, if u pick Zhongli, u will have better survivability but less overall dmg, way less.
If u pick Bennet, u do more dmg but plunges scatter enemies, so circle impact can be cringe. Bennet also makes your on fielder squishier as enemies can trigger pyro related reaction dmg to your on fielder(Bennet’s burst apply pyro aura to your on fielder)
TL;DR Arlecchino plunge is shit unless your Xianyun is C2
The 'Stop doing Plunge attacks' meme was very good. Good shit editor.
16:32 don’t want to use Leila‘s burst because it provides too much cryo- application
Zajef has always undervalued Layla; it’s funny to hear him say this (that she provides plenty of cryo application). He also admits he hasn’t tested out her usage very much. There are a couple very decent Arlecchino melt teams which utilize Layla
I use Furu's Layla team of her, Barbara, Nahida and Diluc with an EM build. It's pretty fun but needs C4 Layla to work just right.
tbf, that was for freezemelt, where significant differences in speed between cryo app and hydro app can make the enemy stay frozen for less time. in double cryo forward melt, yes, obviously you don't wanna deliberately skip her burst if you have it, and if you don't have it after a rotation, you screwed up her build in the first place
He is talking about freeze melt, not melt. That's like the same thing as quickbloom and hyperbloom. One requires less certain elem app and the other one requires more certain elem app.
i remember when i got c10 candace trying to pull for fischl c6(i had c4 already and did 90 pulls just to get one copy and not even get the c6). glad she has a use now
This happened to me too but I was trying to get c0 fischl and ended up with c6 Kaveh 🥲
Why not using kazuha's ult on cryo to increase application if that is an issue??
If you had to give a percentage difference in the strength of their set against a gladiator set with exactly the same stats, what would that value be?
i actually really like using her charged attack as a gap closer instead of dashing towards the enemy, it also just looks bad ass to teleport between enemies
I've been loving a PPHH team for Arlecchino - Mona Dehya Furina. In my experience, she's always Vaping her Vape-able damage, with rarely occasions for Fwd Vapes.
1 thing I think is not talked about enough is the ability to e->charge in are content without waiting which allows the use of burst midrotation to refresh bol
So what's Candice build for this case er hp hp or all in with er with fav?
Looks like he's running ER/HP/crit rate to support Fav (20:21).
i eas waiting to see if she has any significant combos or if unga bunga na spam is just as good
i really liked XQ (noblesse) + Dehya (ToM) with her even beat abyss while using Furina on the last slot and i didn't really felt like i was in danger except once when i got CC'd multiple times in a row
I have been played Arlecchino Kaeya (C6) Sucrose Layla, it does great in single target, for AOE, need sucrose burst for consistency.
I’ve tried this team and I liked Lynette more, her burst lasts longer, she absorbs cryo very easily and she buffs everyone’s atk by 16%, that’s great for Arlecchino
Is c6 Kaeya good with Arlecchino?
You can use Candace: 😍
She has to be C6: 💀
Could you run arlecchino with Navia since they are both front loaded dps and want to use bennet. You could then do a quick swap team and get the defensive utility of crystallize from Navia to help keep arlecchinos healthy up
C2 Furina stonks 📈
mfw i got c2 furina before c0 charlotte om
Love my C6 Candace, Arle is giving more and more each day
Can I use Navia/Arle/Benny/Zhongli?
Whimsy is also what Clorinde uses so if you are already farming for her, might as well build a set on Arlecchino tpo.
the thing is getting two good sets is even harder
Damn idk anything about Candice, but now I want her.
No shot I'm getting a C6 Candace anytime soon. But that's fine because I'm having a blast (literally) with arle/chev overload teams. Definitely out-damaging my arle/yelan combo.
I got very lucky with c2 Arlecchino. The crazy thing with her c2 is, that she doesn't require a shielder at all. It's crazy how good her first two constellations are.
I love playing arle xq fischl beidou, partially because it's good, partially because you just never die, and partially because beidou is really good against triple kenki
I can't believe Candace is on the menu