Tucker Carlson and Pavel Durov: The FBI WANTED Spying Powers Over Telegram
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- Опубликовано: 17 апр 2024
- Briahna Joy Gray and Robby Soave react to Telegram founder and entrepreneur Pavel Durov telling Tucker Carlson the FBI pressured him to use a backdoor to spy on users. #telegram #tuckercarlson
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Tucker is on his grind and I love it. Wasn’t much of a fan before, but I am now seeing how much guts this guy has and you can say I like that about him. Thank you Fox for firing him! Now he can do real journalism!
I had that revelation some years ago, while he was still on Fox. When he was brining on people like Glenn Greenwald & Jimmy Dore as repeat guests, amongst others, I was dumbstruck at what I was hearing on Fox News. Almost had to pinch myself to believe it was real. When Jimmy Dore used the entire appearance to go on a righteous rant against the Washington war machine and Tucker just let him go, just sat there in complete silence from opening the segment until closing it by saying he agreed with everything Jimmy said, it blew my mind that this guy was being allowed to do this on Fox News. I also knew it couldn't last forever.
The left (which I was always part of, before it went insane) is adamant that Tucker is a disingenuous charlatan who spews nothing but hateful lies & bigoted vitriol - but anyone with their wits intact can plainly see that Tucker is far & away the most honest person in (mainstream) media. He's also the most populist, in the real sense: he's genuinely motivated by sincere concern for the interests of the common man, and is rightly - and righteously - filled with contempt for the "elites".
I honestly don't have a bad word to say about Tucker. I disagree with him on some points, but it would be concerning if I didn't. What matters is that he's honest to a fault and always acts in good faith, which is vanishingly rare in today's corrupt & decadent culture.
Imagine being a fed and your job is to read the comment section on RUclips lol
not only read... provoke and prod
Sounds like something a Fed would say 👀
imagine your entire career is doing whatever you can to try to lock anyone you can up on the most petty charges, because fighting real crime takes hardwork, intellect, talent, and integrity. None of which exist in our weaponized domestic federal law enforcement agencies.
AI reads them, then a human reviews them
@@Berley_1234 YUP, sometimes you spot them and humor the clowns
For Bri not to understand how difficult and perilous it is for X to confront Brazil's censorship regime is baffling. Many decisions in life are a balance between our politics, ethics and our personal bottom line. There is always an economical context to every decision we make, even it comes to our kids.
That still doesn't explain him running interference for zionists
Bri will wilfully fail to grasp anything that threatens to paint her ideological opponents in a positive light. This is an iron-clad rule of the universe that is always, invariably and eternally true.
Pavel is amazing
First time to hear him, I liked listening to him.
He's quite handsome.
@@ghenulo yes he is
And he's 40 years old man. Even I in my twenties look older 😂
He is definition of a world developer
Bri always finds a way to turn EVERY topic to some ideological topic. How sad that she cannot take those blinders off for something that 97% can agree on.
Free speech rights are an ideological topic, and the enemies of free speech rights (i.e. the ones who set an algo to delete every other comment here) are almost always Israel supporters
@@Michael-qx6fr U LIKE iDEEology?
@@Michael-qx6fr "somebody who has an ideology" is what's generally termed an ideologue. Ideologues are the last people anyone should listen to for news. Americans seem to have this idea that ideology is great, just normal & natural thing that everyone has, but that's so wrong it's painful. Not everyone is an ideologue, and there's plenty of non-ideologues who could be employed in place of ideologues.
Is the status-quo "shocking"? No.
But it doesn't have to be this way.
@@Michael-qx6fr Values/principles =/= ideology
See, this is what I was saying about Americans. You don't even understand what ideology *is.*
@@lachlanbell8390 "See, this is what I was saying about Americans. You don't even understand what ideology is."
To exhibit what someone who doesn't understand what ideology is, allow me to quote you from before:
"""somebody who has an ideology" is what's generally termed an ideologue."
A great many people have ideologies without being ideologues. I'm all for bagging on Americans, but you're confused. In your mind you probably draw the line somewhere so that you are conveniently always the one who is not an ideologue despite having opinions.
I switch off when Bri opens her mouth.
I fast forward
me too. she is obnoxious.
Taibi exposed her and from that moment she was on the path to self-destruction but Robby is just plain dumb.
How is X compared to the other social media sites? That is the question. X is not perfect on freedom of speech and the sharing of ideas, but sites such as Facebook and IG are far worse.
So much for saving free speech, then. As with everything Elon does: over-promised, under-delivered, underwhelming performance.
I get in trouble with IG for the slightest criticism of the ruling elites, it's so bizarre lol.
Musk told coercive advertisers to GF themselves at great cost to himself. He is the best hope we’ll all have for fairness and open democracy, whether we all know it or not.
Funny how Bri had no problems with the past management at Twitter when they supported her narrative. New guy doesn't and everything he does is wrong and bad.
Is this at all surprising to anyone at this point?
Bri, Parlor's decisions clearly were not all made our purely based on their business interests. Pavel Durov's decisions were clearly not purely in his business interests. It seems banal to say that businesses usually make decisions on their business interests. Claiming otherwise is silly. So you're right to point that out. But you go WAY to far when you effectively see businesses leaders as having no other concerns that drive their decision making. Musk obviously has other concerns. That fact is not undermined by the fact that he does a poor job of implementing his stated principles.
Yeah but Elon claims he bought Twitter to save free speech, business was second. That's the point. If business comes first, then he can't say he's a "free speech absolutist". He's a money absolutist, and free speech supporter when business allows it.
@@johnc3525 no, not really. You misunderstand what "free speech absolutist" means. I disagree with Elon characterizing himself that way for other reasons - although he may have said "close to" it - but the point is that is an ideological statement of policy preference on free speech, not relative to other values, or that it trumps all other values (say survival, financial or otherwise). It's like saying someone is not a true believer in the 2nd amendment if they choose to willingly disarm rather than get raided by the feds.
Briahna has her prior beliefs and shoehorns every topic to fit them. She claimed that willingness to use encryption is at least partially about abortifacients. Her evidence? Idk
@@nefigaha Well, then his ideological position is completely irrelevant. If in your mind it's totally fine to say you support something and in real life you do the opposite of that something because reasons then it doesn't matter what you support ideologically.
Elon stated that he bought Twitter not for business reasons but for ideological reasons. Then he has to put his ideology first, if this is true.
Some people will die for their beliefs, actually. Those we call true believers.
In your example, the believer doesn't truly believe the 2A exists so he can fight the govt, if the moment he has to fight it he doesn't.
In fact, I often mock gun lovers who use that argument because they don't do what they preach.
@@johnc3525 Not even close. Firstly, Elon did not do "the opposite of support[ing free speech]". Far from it. He has allowed the platform the be vastly less censorious and restrictive and fought the US government and others in defense of the privacy of his users. He released documentation from the previous ownership exposing how various government agencies were politically weaponized and working to abuse free speech rights and coercing companies by weaponizing federal regulatory power. Not to mention all the times he has been willing to contribute to legal defense funds for people facing cancelation attempts and frivolous legal threats.
Did he cave to government strong arming in some instances, and in a couple cases let petty personal vendettas or poor judgment lead him to betray that value? Yes. The latter are my primary grievances, as in the former it still was a matter of competing principles since the company was under threat of endlessly accruing fines, or loss of the platform in entire countries. If you have a choice to provide free speech 99% of the time by censoring that 1%, (and then living to fight the illegal orders another day), or simply pull out of a country permanently, it at times would make sense to stay and fight and provide the free speech you can.
Which again leads us to your staggering lack of comprehension of what commitment to a principle means when more than one principle exists. Think logically for a moment - would you call a general a coward who, when attacked at his outpost by an invading army with overwhelming force, retreats to the interior to gather his troops? Would it mean he doesn't believe in his commitment to defend his country or have any patriotic principles since he didn't stand and die at the hands of the momentarily superior forces? When tactically he could easily win if he just retreated for a moment to rally the troops?
Your criticism of someone who believes the 2nd amendment exists in part for the purpose of protecting the right of people to fight against a tyrannical government yet doesn't fight armed gov agents illegally raiding his home is equally obtuse. One can have full commitment to a principle yet recognize the greater value of another principle (eg survival - perhaps even only in pursuit of the initial principle). Commitment to a principle doesn't mean willingness to commit suicide. If you step back and think for a moment, you'll realize everyone lives their lives the same way, yourself included.
Bri you’re confusing the DeepState with Big Tech
Only 1 free speech hero Bri? You seem to be forgetting about the CEO of Rumble, who has pulled services in France and Brazil and has outright refused to adhere to external censorship requests and in currently suing multiple governments over censorship overreach.
Wondering who s paying off Bree to vo after Musk??? Not sure what her beef is with him.
she is exactly like Krystal... She also makes fun of "free speech absolutist" all the time. Ignoring the fact that it is the most free speech platform that you can get in the US, through not perfect but way ahead of everyone else. They just hate to hear alternative less-censored points of view, that's about it.
That girl is a kind of person who thinks that they're smart but they really are not
Bri: they only make delicious hamburgers because of their business interest.
Bri explained exactly why she can't run a business and is only qualified to read cue cards on camera.
Why, because she doesn't think Musk is a free-speech absolutist?
@@Unfamous_Buddha No. she just doesn't have the ability to understand entrepreneurs. why leaders make the tough decisions they do, and the impacts on allthe people they employ. Sitting at a desk and reading a script about flaws in an organization she couldn't run on the best day of her life.
She's a fly on the hat of a farmer. She rises to the level of occasionally annoying.
@@sauldemize9998exactly
Hypocrisy is not a glitch in the system, it's a feature of the system.
Most of US social media is in one way or another a contractor to US DOD&DOJ , and CIA& NSA affiliated investment funds were early investors
And ISPs too--the government is buying browsing history from them, which has been legal for a few years now.
What the Russian government did to Pavel Durov social media platform sounds hauntingly like what the U.S. government wants to do to TikTok.
The US government (and Silicon Valley) did worse to Parler and Gab.
Bri is correct. As in most cases, businesses do what is in their best interest. It so happens to be in consumer's best interest.
Yup
yeah i mean she would do so much better keeping twitter financially afloat while being attacked by every government and intel agency in the world while putting billions of your own dollars on the line. Its not like shes just putting forth criticism of elon musk every single time his name comes up saying something negative about him to smear him because shes angry he refused to sleep with her and she wants to hide the fact she worships him.
@@mikexcopeland I assume you are being sarcastic. At least I hope so. Bri's criticism is valid even though it isn't the whole story. The government doesn't "care" about anybody. It is a system that either gives everyone a fair chance or is wielded by those in power to gain more power. Right now those at the bottom are too concerned with their petty plights and letting those kids at the top steal all the candy.
I would be interested to know which Open Source encryption the state apparatus recommended to Pavel engineer. Those would be a no-no for me in my future projects.
TC rocks! He is doing great things now that he is independent.
He also thinks people should not retire and should work hard! What are you doing right now? Watching youtube during your work or retired? Both are no no to TC! You are disappointing him!!
@@hsiul4746 I'm guessing you heard and believed that lie from CNN or MSNBC, lol.
@@angelacahill9460 I know truth hurts, but it doesn’t care about your feelings. And yes, you continue to disappoint TC! Do better or lot trump will banish you to realty!
Yup, Tucker is a true American patriot that simply wants the TRUTH to be told! Anyone and everyone should WANT that!
@@sonnycusa Tucker said Biden won! Do you agree with the truth he told?
Bri is an activist not a journalist
Glad we gave the FBI more power
im so glad that every time the republican speaker decides to stab the country in the back in the most insulting way giving the most pathetic excuses, that all the reporters and other polticians come in to defend them telling us that the only way to win is if we compeltely sacrifice our priorities, values, and morals and stand united whiile people who never have worked a day or created anythign of value sell us out and destroy our ecomy and take what is not theirs. this gives them the insulation to continue doing it, rather than speaking the truth and putting the political pressure that is neeeded to force them into doing what the people want. im very greatful for that.
is this sarcasm? really can't tell anymore
Much respect to TC! Love the dude
Thank God Elon sometimes holds the line! Bria
Bri is like a broken record! Lame
So sick of Bri’s Musk derangement syndrome.
Perfect is the destroyer of the good because perfect cannot exist in the real human world.
Bri’s obsessive attacks on what should be influential allies guarantee her fight with the truly evil forces will fail pathetically over and over again.
Beautifully said. *Especially* that last sentence. That soooo perfectly captures the essence of Briahna's self-centred myopia & borderline-narcissism-driven petty personal vendettas.
does end to end even help if they can ultimately watch your screen? (isn't that one of their main hacks??)
Robby is a hypocrite
I love how critical bri is of elon musk. I always love to hear criticism of someone who has sacrificed billions of dollars and taken arrow after arrow to try to uphold our most important rights while being attacked by every intel agency and government in the world. she thinks that twitter can do the most for free speech by not complying with court orders and being completely shutdown and no longer available. Im sure that bri would do such a better job if she were the CEO. Shes done so much more for humanity than elon, its not like shes obcessed with him and always trys to take cheap shots at him because he wont sleep with her and she hates him for it.
If you switch out Elon with Jack, Robby’s opinion would be very different
Do you have a window into another timeline?
'Robby Soave' is a sneaky little liar.
[citation needed]
Bri is painful to listen to
It is about legality.
Cool shirt, Robbie!
She just doesn't like him ever since he bought twitter
This land is your land, this land is my land
From California, to the New York Island
From the redwood forest, to the gulf stream waters
This land was made for you and me
EXCEPT that X recently banned a Swiss constitutional lawyer who is suing the Swiss medical regulatory agency for its numerous violations of Swiss laws during the 2020-2022 'pandemic.' Why, X?
Just so you know. There is no such thing as End to End encryption. ( I mean there is but it's irrelevant ) As the endpoint is your phone, that is how you get into the communication channels. Once you game a mobile device, you can access all the data on the machine, including Telegram/Signal/etc. What they mean by end to end is the company providing the service or the networks the data travels across can't gain access.
Whatsapp it's Telegram 10 years ago😂 corporation vs private company😂 why use whatsapp or something else if you have telegram??? It's like use pentium 486 when you have macbook. Durov is genius! Respect!
Omg Briana so ur the perfect one ok
Wow
Can one even imagine how many of BJG’s stray pearls lay abandoned and forgotten hidden within the various cracks and crevasses of the rising studio floor?
THE HUMANITY. B
You have to admire how Grey Joy can cram in a dig at the GOP when the story has nothing to do with it.
He was right
Bri, doesn't that mean the market works? The one that is adversarial to the government is supported by its customers because they stick by 1st Amendment principles?
Twitter poll to bring back trump was so awesome 😆😆
But we just said we dont need 4th amendment.
Wow! Not good 😕
Briana’s takes🤪
Bri will wilfully fail to grasp anything that threatens to paint her ideological opponents in a positive light. This is an iron-clad rule of the universe that is always, invariably and eternally true.
Can't we replace Briahna Joy Gray with a board that says "Benefit of the doubt to my side but other side always evil! Also ELON BAD!"?
Bri: "yes he's doing the right thing, but the reason he's doing it is because…"
In other stories she'll argue that the intention doesn't matter, only the action.
I'm starting to wonder if she's planning on leaving and at this point is just trolling the viewer. She's always had views and analysis that make my eyes roll into the back of my head (I'm absolutely terrified of getting slapped on the back while watching and having my face freeze like that), but over the last several months she's been like that one or two rockets in the giant 500 piece Chinese 'Atmosphere-Eviscerator fireworks that shoot out only to immediately turn onto the spectators.
3:10 how end to end? In other words .... if thats true or not. Anyways...
Soon Pavel will have to close shop in UAE.
You read about me in a book
The miracles and the time it took
You recognize me by the look
I am The Messenger
Others have tried to do this thing
Peace and hope are the things I bring
And the faithful recognize the king
I am The Messenger
-- Kathy Kallick
Bri Ball Ogre and cusperian are really insufferable.
Facebook is already starting end-to-end encryption in Messenger. Yesterday, my mother got freaked out when she was asked for a PIN in her iPad's Messenger app, thinking she'd been scammed and the scammer would take over her account. My brother and I had to explain that it was just due to end-to-end encryption to make things more secure and she could turn off end-to-end encryption so that she doesn't need a PIN, but then anyone could read her conversations (both my brother and I told her that it's a bad idea to disable encryption).
as if they dont know ur number
Brie! I just spoke well of you, now you're positing that businesses ALWAYS (ONLY) look out for their own interests (which harm progressive principles). Grrr, not true and not worth using as your pivot in an argument.
😮😮😮😮😢😢😢😢
you can't expect to literally believe the words that come out of Carlson's mouth. And that assertion is not coming from Carlson's critics. It's being made by a federal judge in the Southern District of New York and by Fox News's own lawyers in defending Carlson against accusations of slander.
It's comments like this that make me think I should sue MSNBC and Joy Reid for slander and defamation for saying that all white Christians in rural communities are racist. She literally slandered a large portion of the American population and incited violence against them so I should also ask as part of the suit that she be fired. Do you think her career outside of MSNBC would be as successful as Tucker's has been?
Quantum computing will soon make encryption of no value.
Nothing more than an exaggeration
Bri, their interests are to make the consumer happy.
Don't Worry
They Only Let The FSB Peek
Пусть стену вернет
Only russians are allowed to have backdoor in telegram))))
Any proofs?
In robbies world, you can give into every other countries bid for censorbip and nbd 😂
Yea, not like then you have to censor the lowest common denominator or lose those markets anyways.
Not like robbie has reportef this basic fact before.
What a dum dum.
Stop this feed
Elon is better on fs
Bri 🤢
Hey Rihanna, lol who is the freedom of speech icon if it’s not Elon Musk? Or do you just not like Elon Musk? Do you not tolerate him? It kind of seems like that… you know you should work on being more tolerant.
every time i watch one of those to catch a predator vids on youtube , the guy is on telegram groups so i say good job on the FBI
Using your logic, we should allow the FBI to read everyone's text messages, emails, DM's, mail and listen to all phone calls without cause because some pedos use those to communicate. You may be willing to give up all your rights to privacy but I would like to keep mine.
Has anybody ever noticed how Tucker looks a little like a poorly executed face transplant..
This lady is lame.
Why does this guy always talk himself into messaging pretzels. It was not necessary to expand on the fact that Telegram has all types of people - all platforms do. They are open to the world.
Tucker father was CEO of voice of America Only voice we could here what Id going on out dude our tyranical persecution in Eastern Europe z