I love the message man alot of people focus on what's the "fastest" method and kinda forgets the middle process when you're going to struggle and not get a bunch of things and start doubting the process so fun is really important to actually making it whether the method is considered not most effective when in reality it's most effective for you
I started learning English when I was 2 (currently 19 and my first language is Spanish), because my parents thought it would be useful to me in the future. I consider fluency in a language a comparison between the target language and your 1st language. If you can read, write, talk and understand that target language to the same, if not better, extent as your first language, then it’s axiomatic that you are fluent in that target language. The logic is, you are a native speaker of your first language and if you get your target language to the same level as your first language, then it’s fair to say that you are a near native/native speaker of that language. That’s my goal with Japanese, I want to get it to the same level as my Spanish or English! Sorry for the essay lol, I just really like talking about languages.
We have the same goals 👀 Yeah, I’m really trying to get their with my Japanese. I feel like I’m almost there, maybe another 3 to 5 years? If I get there I’m gonna need another language to learn 🤣
We have the same goals 👀 Yeah, I’m really trying to get their with my Japanese. I feel like I’m almost there, maybe another 3 to 5 years? If I get there I’m gonna need another language to learn 🤣
Thank you for making an honest video. There is so much misinformation out there. Its a long process to learn a new language, and everyone should keep their expectations real.
As someone who learned English as a second language (my first language is French!), I consider myself fluent on a pretty near native level! But it took me about 10 years to do so, only if I take into account English learned in school, but realistically, I started speaking and writing English more seriously when I hit college (which was not French but English). Which was about 6 or 7 years ago! Now successfully been accepted to University in English also! There's still stuff I learn about the language everyday but I think even native people learn about their own language all the time too if they learn about new subject and such! In a way, fluency is the ability to speak your mind freely and learn about the language you speak in a natural way. It's a bit when you are learning an instrument or a new sport, the beginning is very stiff but the more you practice it, thr more you train yourself, the better you become and what you do becomes natural! That's how I see it at least haha I hope to get to a natural level of Japanese in the future 👌😌 Also this is Just Bruh from your discord server 👋
Thanks for sharing your experience! It's really nice to hear input from people who have learned any language. It's so true that even natives are learning stuff about their own language all the time, which helps muddy the definition of fluency all the more haha. Good luck on your Japanese learning journey!
Easy way to test your English fluency watch the Office and Seinfeld if you understand 90% of jokes then you are fluent because understanding comedy is the ultimate test. Also i would never count language class at primary school as anything but filler because it usually sucks. Congratulations on your success.
@@southcoastinventors6583 LOL I get it, we have something similar where I'm from for if people understand french! But I feel a lot of the jokes are reference to the culture at this point, language learning is not just about the language itself but the learning of a new culture with it! :D
"I like a goal that I can never reach." I think about this when it comes to fitness progress as well. My body is in peak shape (by my definition) and you will never ever reach a point where you can sit back and declare victory. The trick is to be comfortable with the journey that doesn't end.
When you upload iPhone footage into premiere it naturally blows out the highlight. You should change the sequence settings to Rec.709 or whatever to get the proper exposure and saturation
Fluency for me is being able to speak, listen, read and write with almost to no problem… I mean even in our native language we do very occasional mistakes.
Yeah I think I’m similar, but my ability to do that all can depend on the topic as well. Everyday vs more emotional or more professional topics. Also especially with Japanese, I think there are many people who are fluent who can’t write anything at all, unless you wouldn’t call them fluent which I guess is the point of this video and how fluency means something different for everyone haha
Hey new subscriber, nice video about tempering expectations. I have two questions first did you sound like a anime character because most of the spoken Japanese you heard was mostly from video game ? Second is when do you start learning how to speak Japanese with anybody because it sounds you focused more at first with reading and listening ? Thanks again.
Hey, thanks for subbing and the questions 🙂 Yeah. Most of the Japanese I learned with at the start was from a grammar book (so super unnatural) or from video games which caused me to sound either unnatural or like a game character haha. I started texting at about a year and a half in and I did a few Skype calls with my language exchange partner but not a significant number. I really started speaking at like 4 years in, which is why my speaking and listening abilities lagged so far behind my reading. I’m making a part two right now that will go much more in-depth on this topic 👀
Sorry for the sudden drop in video quality early in. I pressed a setting that I didn’t know existed and only realized the consequences when editing 🤣
I love the message man alot of people focus on what's the "fastest" method and kinda forgets the middle process when you're going to struggle and not get a bunch of things and start doubting the process so fun is really important to actually making it whether the method is considered not most effective when in reality it's most effective for you
So true, fun really makes it worth it. It’s not easy to put 2,000+ hours into something that isn’t fun 🤣
I started learning English when I was 2 (currently 19 and my first language is Spanish), because my parents thought it would be useful to me in the future. I consider fluency in a language a comparison between the target language and your 1st language. If you can read, write, talk and understand that target language to the same, if not better, extent as your first language, then it’s axiomatic that you are fluent in that target language. The logic is, you are a native speaker of your first language and if you get your target language to the same level as your first language, then it’s fair to say that you are a near native/native speaker of that language. That’s my goal with Japanese, I want to get it to the same level as my Spanish or English! Sorry for the essay lol, I just really like talking about languages.
We have the same goals 👀
Yeah, I’m really trying to get their with my Japanese. I feel like I’m almost there, maybe another 3 to 5 years?
If I get there I’m gonna need another language to learn 🤣
We have the same goals 👀
Yeah, I’m really trying to get their with my Japanese. I feel like I’m almost there, maybe another 3 to 5 years?
If I get there I’m gonna need another language to learn 🤣
Thank you for making an honest video. There is so much misinformation out there. Its a long process to learn a new language, and everyone should keep their expectations real.
As someone who learned English as a second language (my first language is French!), I consider myself fluent on a pretty near native level! But it took me about 10 years to do so, only if I take into account English learned in school, but realistically, I started speaking and writing English more seriously when I hit college (which was not French but English). Which was about 6 or 7 years ago! Now successfully been accepted to University in English also! There's still stuff I learn about the language everyday but I think even native people learn about their own language all the time too if they learn about new subject and such!
In a way, fluency is the ability to speak your mind freely and learn about the language you speak in a natural way. It's a bit when you are learning an instrument or a new sport, the beginning is very stiff but the more you practice it, thr more you train yourself, the better you become and what you do becomes natural! That's how I see it at least haha
I hope to get to a natural level of Japanese in the future 👌😌
Also this is Just Bruh from your discord server 👋
Thanks for sharing your experience! It's really nice to hear input from people who have learned any language. It's so true that even natives are learning stuff about their own language all the time, which helps muddy the definition of fluency all the more haha.
Good luck on your Japanese learning journey!
Easy way to test your English fluency watch the Office and Seinfeld if you understand 90% of jokes then you are fluent because understanding comedy is the ultimate test. Also i would never count language class at primary school as anything but filler because it usually sucks. Congratulations on your success.
@@tystake Thank you!
@@southcoastinventors6583 LOL I get it, we have something similar where I'm from for if people understand french! But I feel a lot of the jokes are reference to the culture at this point, language learning is not just about the language itself but the learning of a new culture with it! :D
"I like a goal that I can never reach." I think about this when it comes to fitness progress as well. My body is in peak shape (by my definition) and you will never ever reach a point where you can sit back and declare victory. The trick is to be comfortable with the journey that doesn't end.
Thank you, this is really helpful for putting it all in perspective! Bottom line is, don't give up!
Exactly! Don’t give up and you’ll get there 🙂
When you upload iPhone footage into premiere it naturally blows out the highlight. You should change the sequence settings to Rec.709 or whatever to get the proper exposure and saturation
Thanks! This is fixed in my more recent videos^^
Fluency for me is being able to speak, listen, read and write with almost to no problem… I mean even in our native language we do very occasional mistakes.
Yeah I think I’m similar, but my ability to do that all can depend on the topic as well. Everyday vs more emotional or more professional topics.
Also especially with Japanese, I think there are many people who are fluent who can’t write anything at all, unless you wouldn’t call them fluent which I guess is the point of this video and how fluency means something different for everyone haha
excited for the timeline 😁
Hey new subscriber, nice video about tempering expectations. I have two questions first did you sound like a anime character because most of the spoken Japanese you heard was mostly from video game ? Second is when do you start learning how to speak Japanese with anybody because it sounds you focused more at first with reading and listening ? Thanks again.
Hey, thanks for subbing and the questions 🙂
Yeah. Most of the Japanese I learned with at the start was from a grammar book (so super unnatural) or from video games which caused me to sound either unnatural or like a game character haha.
I started texting at about a year and a half in and I did a few Skype calls with my language exchange partner but not a significant number. I really started speaking at like 4 years in, which is why my speaking and listening abilities lagged so far behind my reading.
I’m making a part two right now that will go much more in-depth on this topic 👀
You are a true Mythbuster hahaha
japanese fiancé 😅
Not sure what all the fuss is about, it shouldn't take more than one afternoon.