Is This Geometric Structure The Theory Of Everything? | Answers With Joe
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- For 100 years, scientists have been searching for the "Theory of Everything", the elusive link between the physics of Quantum Mechanics and General Relativity. A team of researchers believe they may have the key, and it all lies in a geometrical design.
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Garrett Lisi's work in particle physics led him to find patterns in the geometry that led him to discover an 8-dimensional crystalline structure called the E8 Lie Group. He used this to predict the existence of particles that he believes account for the force of gravity.
Klee Irwin and the Quantum Gravity Research team have taken this and constructed a theory about the nature of reality itself all the way down to the plank length, where reality breaks down into pixellated tetrahedrons that through emergence theory has created a universal consciousness.
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"The universe is not only stranger than we think. It is stranger than we CAN think." Heisenberg
You sure that ain't Terence McKenna
Samuel Williams
nope Heisenberg for sure
J. B. S. Haldane
THOMAS BOWE
While Haldane was extraordinary
It was Heisenberg who made the above statement.
Haldane's statement was similar with different wording.
There being those who believe he took from Heisenberg.
None the less there are those who believe the opposite.
In the UK, they drive on the left side of the road. In PA, we drive on what's left of the road.
Where or what is "pa", besides your dad
@@graftongodofmemes PA = Abbreviation for Pennsylvania.
But the joke was pretty funny though
I grew up in Pittsburgh folks...this man speak deep truth!!
And you drive like maniacs on any road in any other state
I saw that exact geometric structure on my last psilocybin mushroom trip.
I mean it's just a model to help demonstrate something we could never authentically comprehend. I've seen similar stuff as well.
@¡i¡Got Crabz I always see this on my dmt trips
As a regular psychedelic user, how the fuck do you remember an exact geometric shape (edit-of that detail) when back to sober, I call bullshit
Nakano Yuko Jr you can have flashbacks of the trip where you can clearly remember that lil snippet of memory
Nakano Yuko Jr some have said to draw what they saw, I can’t even find the words to try to explain what I saw it is like a fleeting memory like a dream but beautiful
"required us to put on some different lenses"
Joe Rogan: Have you ever tried DMT?
I was waiting for Rogan to jump out at any moment in this video and ask if he'd tried DMT.
We're living in strange times
Lol and yes and was it seen also yes
“Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed into a slow vibration and we are all of one consciousness that’s sharing itself subjectively. There’s no such thing as death, life is only a dream and we’re the imaginations of ourselves.
Here is Tom with the weather”
Bill Hicks
Tool - Third Eye
My absolute favorite MJK song; very rich song for tripping as well, especially while playfully knocking around all these ideas in your head
Raymond Blanton
You know, it’s funny. When I used to watch movies in which the acid tripping dude was shown saying, “wow, that’s cosmic!”, instead of assuming the dude tripping was an idiot, I always figured the dude was figuring out the secrets of the universe and was probably a physicist. Can’t judge a book by it’s cover.
Matt B MJK only wrote the lyrics the other 75% of the song is probably better then the lyrics
That's string theory...
This is why I watch your channel. You’re not afraid to say, I don’t know! Keep up the hard work, doesn’t go unnoticed!!
If someone says they know they are lying lol
Best comment I've ever seen
Hell yeah.
Exactly
I came across Emergence Theory a couple years ago. I still can't grasp everything in it, and I've watched every video and read every thesis and article 3 or 4 times.
It's an incredibly complex and bonkers theory. But E8 is so refined, and the bits I do fully understand mesh so well together that it has some serious potential merit in science. The fact that it's testable too makes it a massive contender.
This is good enough for me.
The fact that there's holes in this 8d structure reminds me of Mendeleev creating the periodic table, how there were many holes and gaps that represented elements we now know and weren't discovered at the time. He was so sure of his organization that when someone claimed they discovered a new element, Mendeleev said they were wrong, and he could prove them wrong with his model of the periodic table, and his version turned out to be correct. This story sounds like this 8d structure, Lisi created a model that organizes every particle perfectly based on its properties, and there are holes where particles could exist but we haven't discovered them yet. Like Joe said, if we find one of these missing particles, it would support this model is right. I think this may be what he was getting at, but I just wanted to say it anyway.
I was thinking the same thing, I wonder if we'll get to see stuff like that with this.
Exactly what i was thinking about Mendeleev.
spaces for our exploration and understanding to fill in. Maybe it will be there because consciously we thought that it might.
The universe is stranger than we can think.
Buid it and they will come ;)
@daniel letterman maybe not putside our universe, but instead it needs to observed in a certain way in order to be found, like the discovery of infrared
That is a good analogy
@daniel letterman i totally love that idea, thanks for sharing :)
"at the planck length scale reality breaks down into 3d pixels..."
the universe is a voxel based game?
Yes
I mean that means that...the universe is technically not flat at all.Damn i really have to look forword to this theory.
Is reality Minecraft 2?
@@xopha Yeah,in the meantime i've understood what it actually means.Like if you fire 2 parrarel objects in empty space,in a flat universe they would never meet or go away from each other.It emplies more things like that i assume.Also suprised my old comments get replied lol.
the information of matter passes through that 3d pixelated space as the information of the matter passes through that grid the pixels switch their superposition and go in and out of existence.
Heisenberg & Schrodinger got pulled over for speeding.
The cop asked Heisenberg ... "Do you know how fast you were going"?
Heisenberg replied.. "No, but I know where I am."
The cop said "You were going 70 mph"
Heisenberg said "Great...Now we're lost."
The cop asked Schrodinger.. "What's in the trunk.?"
Schrodinger said.. "A cat"
The cop opened the trunk & said.. "This cat's dead."
Schrodinger said .. "Ya, he is now."
loool that's great
Why was Heisenberg's wife unsatisfied?
Because when he had the time, he didn't have the energy, and when he had the position, he couldn't get the momentum.
@@UFBMusic you are killing me guys
@@MrDoboz Thank you, thank you! I'm here until the heat death of the Universe!
Roflmao
Joe: This is a square
Me: whoa whoa, hold on there egg head
I laughed hard at this.. Well played..
aha ok norm
String theory and guitars are similar in that the strings vibrate and that I can’t understand how to make either of them work with my hands
String theory also needs 12 dimensions...
I personally consider this theory not very strong.
And I know that we do not have a lot of other strong theory's as alternative.
Did you study string theory on your own or did you learn it in a course?
Oh na I study history and the maths always gets me
Also not good with instruments in general
P. Patrick Tukkers ruclips.net/video/WIyTZDHuarQ/видео.html I personally feel like this is a strong contender, mainly because I feel that for a bridge to work for 2 theories, it would have to make sence from both perspectives of theory. So at the least it would have to make some sence in the "normal" world.
UNIVERSE DIDNT CREATE LIFE ... LIFE CREATED THE UNIVERSE ... AVE FUN :)
I looked into the 'Quantum Gravity Research', it is not scientific and definitely not on the same page as the others. They make statements that are very far outside of established physics/science. The giveaway was the golden ratio stuff which is a bit cringeworthy because it the kind of thing someone who doesn't know what they are talking about would talk about.
Indeed
Not to dampen the severe skepticism QGR deserves but if they're really going to attempt a "layman's" description of geometry that is incomprehensible without a deep understanding of the math involved, I really can't fault them for using something that the layman can connect with, and that likely does show up, as phi tends to do. I mean if for no other reason that to coax the reader to the end of the paragraph.
Having said that, I'm not really sure why a layman's description would be helpful -- unless they're trying to encourage funding.
Yeah, it sounded very much like the J.Z. Knight / Ramtha's School of Enlightenment brand of woo.
Eh, the golden ratio is misapplied a lot, but it's not a completely made up thing, there's some real and interesting mathematics there and it DOES have a tendency to show up in strange places as well as common ones (like pentagons)... It's a legitimately cool number without having to make up any magical properties. I wouldn't be especially surprised if the golden ratio turned out to be important in the mathematics of an eventual theory of everything, though that's not to say I'm predicting it WILL be either. Just that I wouldn't be surprised.
GR does pop up in Feigenvalues.
You lost me at two identical tetrahedrons of different sizes.
same size in 3D, different in 4D
Same L O L
it's like having two boxes that have one identical square wall - but in 3d one is longer than the other.
@@mjm3091 eh? How are they identical then?
@@jonathankr identical in 3d
All the psychonaughts out here be like
"ya I know all this stuff already"
it makes more sense to me than string theory tbh, it also kinda a aligns with ancient occult philosophies which is not something to be considered in the realm of science but hey its still nice
Smoke DMT or take enough LSD & this theory, or at the very least the geometry, makes perfect sense!
@skOsH i see this pattern when i close my eyes when i go to sleep and the negative image of my eye in the background...
Oi, I just had a real weird moment when I realised I had seen the tetrahedra creating reality when I trip donkey balls, it’s exactly what he said😂 it’s like all of reality falls out of the same space, but also out of itself, like almost out of a different dimension we cannot perceive, so just looks like it’s folding out of itself! The tripping starfish me and my mates call it lol! Fellow psychonaughts know what I mean here, west af but fucking awesome when science and realisations aligns with the stuff I’ve experienced or these drugs have allowed me and us to see. Fucking sounds crazy but it’s true..it’s unexplainable to people who haven’t experienced it
YES!
Garrett Lisi's work holds some merit, and despite his somewhat eccentric lifestyle he's surprisingly grounded about his theory being just "a speculative proposal". The scientific community has criticized parts of his work for small inconsistencies and incompleteness, but the theory overall is solidly founded in math and known laws & properties of particle physics.
Klee Irwin on the other hand is just a pseudoscientific nutjob.
I did really like how Lisi never states his idea was stone cold truth, just putting it out there.
Anyone that claims the universe is conscious has an enormous burden of proof. Irwin's 3rd postulation is a logical quantum leap unsupported by evidence. It likely stems from a sophomoric misunderstanding of the QM definition of 'observer.' An observer need not be conscious.
Thanks!
This! Agree with all the above.
This means Garrett Lisi has his own personal Time Cube Guy. L. Ron Hubbard did it for the money. Gene Ray truly believed his babble, best I can tell.
Wait so Plato's theory that everything was made up of tiny triangles is correct. Just 3d triangles
Unreal engine 5, simulation confirmed
the fact that the golden ratio is part of this theory should imply that yes, Plato was correct
And Plato would not have had access to complex simulations and tech, but he did have access to math and DMT.
@@thegreywanderer8427 more like acid? Kukeon was apparently ergot.
@@Cheebaprint Reality be running on Unreal Engine 42. Can't wait for the new update.
Thanks for sharing! That E8 lattice is in a sense the physics equivalent of chemistry's periodic table. After getting that chemists had a model and road map to search for the rest of the elements not yet discovered. The E8 lattice has the same potential for physicists to discover all the possible expressions of particles and energy possible. At this point, it has merit. All that can be done is see where it goes.
Robert Dix Best description yet. Great job!
Great comparison.
You are correct Robert Dix. Murray Gellman & Yuval Nee-man developed such a table. Quark table that predicted the Omega-1 particle in 1964. In 1969 along with Richard Feynman the Omega -1 was seen. Within the Altlas particle accelerator.
7:40 - this is why Im subbed to Joe...
“I guess when you put out a video 52 times a year, eventually you’re going to eat one”
When you project any 8D structures into four dimensional time-space the shadows always cast a pattern that look like this:
42
Master Baytier how dare you...
42? You've got some balls
What the fcuk you guys talkin bout ?
@@LordLaavineshNithianandan jog on pal. Ain't got nout do with u
@@LordLaavineshNithianandan they making a joke from a movie called Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy in the movie there was some people searching for the answer to life the universe and everything and they built the gigantic computer is computed for 6 million years and then they returned to the computer computer gave the answer is 42
Part of this presentation that intrigues me is the "step down" method of observing objects in higher dimensions as objects in lower dimensions. The tesseract example is a model for the same process to examine higher dimensions, and then the relationships are systematized geometrically.
The fact that the eighth dimensional model predicts eighteen particles that are not known to exist is exciting. I'm reminded of Dirac.
You might be surprised how many people finish their PhDs and then need to take a break for a few years. ~23 years of continual school _(K-12: 13 years, Bachelor's: 4 years, PhD: 6 years)_ will do that to you.
college especially kills you emotionally
@@RazorM97 so does a PhD
@@Endrance450 You can go straight to PhD after undergrad depending on what country you're in and which field you want to go to, although you may not be as competitive of an applicant
And a master's can do the same. Education can be brutal (especially on your wallet).
I hate people like that. Kind of like Michael Chriton who became a doctor only to write novels. They take space from people who might actually use that education only to waste it.
When I took 5-MEO DMT I saw that shape. Only on the first time though. The rest of my attempts to see it ended up with either me throwing up or dancing with an alien somewhere near the 7th dimension. Rubber Johnny I believe his name was.
@Ben Ghazi Infinite. Realities.
.........?
Ahh good ol' Rubber Johnny! It's been a while
Love seeing you jump off the deep end of quantum mechanics!
So Jim Carrey was right..
"We're all just a bunch of dancing tetrohedrons."
Yeah he needs to explain himself in a more detailed manner probably lol, maybe in a less whimsical way. I mean you might say its Jim Carey its gonna be a whimsical description. But theres no me theres no you lol.
@@thadesweatt303 it's nearly impossible to try to describe in words when you physically and consciously experience something that words haven't been invented for yet.
@@thisjustseemsorchestrated3033 exactly.. its like doing DMT to a T.. there are no words that can actually describe it!
And so it has come to this. I can't even conceive of any reason to quote Jim Carrey about ANYTHING. What's next? Quoting Kathy Griffin on The Meaning of Life?
@@excelsior999 jim is right tho. He's not the same goofy actor he's had spiritual change, probably took alot of mushrooms
I like the way you position yourself on screen using the Golden Ratio
Totally on purpose.
Joe is the fundamental constant of the universe.
this is one of the most interesting things i’ve ever heard of, thank you for sharing it. i’m gonna do a lot more research into it, but this video gave me a big reminder as to why i love physics and why im dedicating my life to this. simple, normal objects become magical when you realize the complexity of their mere existence, and i think this is a wonderful reminder of the importance of realizing that our inability to perceive or understand something does not make it impossible. we must go where the evidence takes us, and hopefully it will support this theory because it’s fascinating
Our consciousness is the universes way of observing its “self,” in the way we use our brains to learn about our brains
exacly! And on top of that we experience our brain thinking as much as we experience a story teller telling a story! We just confuse ourselfes with the story teller! Look closer
Dayum
That's a cool way of putting it
LiquidCookie damn bro
Nice, as above so below.
The E8 lattice is something I feel to be fairly common(or something very close to it) with closed eyed visuals on psilocybin trips. And probably one of the less weird visuals I’ve experienced
That's a pretty heavy dose?
@@philipscoccer I would say a mild to moderate one.
This video reminds me of L S D trip I took In the mid 70s
Thanks Joe!
I was about to make the same comment until I saw you already did. Guess this proves it.
Lovin' them fractals... :)
Tapping into the consciousness of the universe is the most beautiful feeling anyone could feel. It feels very familiar like you been there before an infinite number of times. You are it and it is you. Very familiar feeling, home, if you will.
Well, if you've dropped enough acid, everything ends up looking like that. Or legos.
One stamp is enough for me to see it on every surface I look at. If I just stare at the same spot without moving my eyes, EVERYTHING in my visual field melts into the form of that E8 pattern.
A friend of mine tried smoking salvia divinorum once, and he said everything turned into legos. He didn't enjoy it, and it's a good job that the salvia trip only lasts a few minutes. I don't recommend trying salvia, but there are some funny youtube videos of people doing it
DMT...
Instructions unclear, dropped acid, now I have a hole in my floor
@@vandercecil9449 DMT indeed...
One thing that always gets me outta bed on Mondays : Joe's videos!
Not to promote psychedelics (enough coments here do already), but the whole consciousness thing makes so much sense on acid. You literally feel like you are "the world", like your consciousness is one with everything on this earth. And you "get" infinity. I swear to yall. I feel like this is the most perplexing substance a scientist can take lmao.
Love the woo woo alarm.
His critic of researchers starting by anouncing their theory and then trying to prove it was kind of...'woo woo'.
What are we supposed to do, use the quantum-enabled sensors of cryogenic robots living in total vacuum ?!
We ponder as abstract entities dwelling in a medium that naturally fulfills obedience to the Laws of Physics...
If human consciousness wasn't a logical outcome, we wouldn't exist, so artificial theories might well prevail !
If anybody here doesn't believe we're an immaterial manifestation of intellectual authority, sorry about that DEAD MEAT !
Amin Zin can’t tell if sarcasm or not 🤔
Amin Zin interesting take. I interpreted it as possibly supporting simulation theory so maybe that shows our individual inherent biases more than anything.
3:40 *shows complex geometric design*
"let me back up a bit... This is a square"
This figure looks like something you would see on DMT :)
Kristian Curkovic have u ever done dmt?
only psilocybin
blueckaym this figure was everything I knew and was.
no fucking kidding. dmt probably created it, and us. or did we create dmt so it could create us? turtles all the way down.
what if you could see actually see those dimensions .
This evokes the same sense of wonder I feel when seeing the missing parts of the periodic table... it seems everything exists in a spectrum of a sort; it's all about being able to understand what pieces of the spectrum we're studying enough to predict how the rest of it is like.
I like pencils. That’s as technical as my brain can get now, after watching this video and losing so much blood through my ear holes.
Emergence: When you dabble so deep in physics you just turn around and go back to religion. ;P
damn...lmao
Lol! Too funny.
When you realize that there are an infinite amount of universes where anything conceivable becomes a really you must accept that there is a being in one of these realities who is in fact God,but disgustingly, and undeniably, atheists have become like Christian scientist, they discredit discoveries that don't credit their own religion..if God appeared before you you'd become an atheist instantly because a theory would have become a reality. We humans are toddlers, distracted from reality by the hissy fits we are constantly throwing.its no wonder that almost all religious leaders and miracle workers preached humility, and begged people not to worship them.
@@M33t3y "if God appeared before you you'd become an atheist instantly" I think you meant theist, also that's not a "bad" thing, even if something is true, if you cannot justify that truth, it's just a lucky guess... Let's put it like this, you playing roulette, you say "It's going to stop on 0", I say "it's not", it hits 0. Just because you guessed it right doesn't mean I was wrong to doubt your statement. You didn't justify it, the odds were against you, you just happened to be right because you said something that was true out of belief and not knowledge... Btw, I'm an agnostic atheist but I don't deny there is a very good chance there is something on what you can put the label of "God", however I can guarantee you, it's not anything you think it is nor it is something that any religion has come to describe... Imo if any religion is close is something like Buddhism, not Christianity, if that's the "God" you believe exists there is no need for any conversation, you are just wrong, not even like maybe wrong, it would be like you saying you gonna hit the -1 in the roulette
@daniel letterman "There is no "direction" in thought"
And what do you base this argument on? Oh wise one. Please, do tell how one's thoughts have no "direction"....
Edit: Lmao I just did ctrl+f, where the heck did any body even mention "direction" until you did here. Maybe you should get off your high-horse.... It's obviously way too high for you to ride. Ahhhhh
Probably the first thing will be the equivalent of ''wtf are u doing in base 10?''
Mizuto Ryu imagine alients having 2 and 3 bases to keep multiple dimensions in their calculations. Like there is a 2 base then a 8 base on the 2 based number. Might sound stupid but if they somehow could calculate with it.
This looks like a mandala that is common in Buddhist and Hindu art.
better yet it looks like visuals, prominent with most psychedelic drugs
Carl Jung did research on this and kinda made a groundwork for unifying materialism and spirituality.
It doesn't look like it.
It is the sacred geometry done with dots n balls.
The west like to discover things that weren't lost. Already known to the rest of the world 😅
🤔 We all know the most important geometry question is: *what do you call a crushed angle?*
A rectangle....
Haha! Nice pun
*rimshot*
Joe Scott, awhhh yeahhhh 😅
*Like Joe said, it would be sweet for anyone that knows about this stuff in detail to add anything extra! It's so interesting!*
Feel free to use this comment's reply section as a hub for keeping all the info in one place instead of scattered, I'd love to read it all! ✌
Totally.
✌
If you like QG, look up the Wheeler-DeWitt eq, the Hartle-Hawking state, Loop Quantum Gravity, twistors, and Connes' non-commutative algebra, to name a few; peace! ;D
Pretty bummed this thread isn't fuller
Is that why people see geometric patterns while tripping on DMT?
Cue Twilight Zone music.
Yes! This is exactly the reason why people see geometric patterns while tripping. If this wasnt true people would see ungeometric patterns
Robert Shackleferd now that you mentioned it it is!
Robert Shackleferd lol I'm guessing according to this theory, because you tripped on DMT the universe could have created geometry 13 billion years ago. Woo woo
We need Joe Rogan here to comment on this.
When I close my eyes and focus I can see that colored dot. Eventually it became a routine to " look" at. It would change geo shapes. It always looked like colored pixels. One time it focused sharply into an eye and it looked at me .
I'm so intrigued
"eventually you're going to eat one..."
That you did, new friend. But you did it with style! 😂👍
Idk. Maybe it wasn’t complete, but it did fill in a couple pieces of the QG puzzle for me.
maybe he was also talking about mushrooms lmfao
if you subscribe to the "fake it til you make it" model of the universe, then Joe's mistake was that he dropped the narrative for just a moment.
Please include "woo woo time" in future videos!!!
I just want to clear up one thing: Emergence doesn't claim or attempt to claim a "God of The Gap". Fundamental Consciousness is more like the desire for particles to seek the lowest possible energy state. They don't do this "consciously". It's just inherent.
Good point.
And a "conscious observer" can just be another particle right? The theory could be more like everything in the universe having some kind of consciousness - if you define consciousness as the ability to percieve things and react to them in a certain logical way, then everything is "conscious". And that is how human consciousness is defined medically - whether or not we can perceive and/or react to things mentally. Perhaps that's all consciousness is and there's nothing that weird or unique about it, what makes humans unique (maybe and some or all animal life) is the ability to conjour up things that don't physically exist (like ideas, memory, desires and predictions) in our minds. That could be more like a second-order consciousness where we can be conscious of things we created internally as well as the first-order consciousness that everything has.
Tim Wolford II - similar to a path of least resistance for energy?
RedButtonProductions Pretty much.
Yup, that's how I look at it - simple interaction is the lowest form - the 'pixel' - of consciousness.
When I got to 8:36, an image popped into my head for an analogy. What if you had a bunch of shoe laces that were held only at one end (our life lines). If one end of the strings are the past and the clump that is being held is the future, then wiggling a string at a future point would still make the string at the other end react. Thus, future affecting past.
Take it a bit further and what if each and every person was in their own parallel universe (each person being more like the string), well all those strings clumped together could look like a sea. Each string is independent of the others but can cause ripples in someone elses string if it moves to much. The unifying force would be that which holds the strings at the one end (God maybe). Also, that could be a reason as to why reality is so subjective.
What if we were all "God" experiencing itself at the same time in an ever changing moment. Like if were all shoe lace strings. They are comprised of many strings, many woven together to form one life and set of experiences. If were all in a parallel world, we could all be like a simulation looking for an answer to something by looking at all possibilities simultaneously. Or you know when there is an online game. Thousands of people can play the characters life at the same time. But what if life was actually one person ("God") playing as different characters, experiencing itself in an ever changing now moment. Many people already believe that God is a force or that God holds the strings that are our lives, so to speak anyway. They believe we are all part of this being and we were made in his image and likeness. Many believe were connected through this being, this force. My theory isnt so far fetched when I think its kind of what we have been saying all along just with a different way of looking at it.
If you smoke DMT, you will see that.
something extremely close to 4:57 gradually overpowering your visual cortex depending on how far off into space you blast (also depending on substance used for the take-off) but generally only if you practice with closed eyes; a lot of people that trip allow themselves distractions (like phones or whatever other stupid shit) and generally that just leads to a psychological experience with mostly optical illusion style visuals.
Blatantly never done a big hit of DMT :P Xx
It sounds extremely similar to dmt experiences. I can also almost see it if I rub my eyes really hard and fireworks start exploding on tio if each other.
Once science is mature enough to explore the psychedelic realm then we will make some huge leaps in discovering the truth
Jake
I thought the same lol.
Sounds like boys bragging about their DMT trips here have never gone past the second drag.
5:32 this is nothing else than a search for a Periodic System of Particle Physics. Very interesting!
So far this is one of my favorites! I love it when you approached the camera and tell us how your feeling. I completely agree and feel ya. You rock Joe Scott!
"And uuuhh Im gonna do the best I can" Relatable as hell with anything quantum physics xDDD
science be like 8d structure visible in 3d
lsd be like 8d structure visible in 4d
This is exactly what I saw when very high on LSD. Changed my perception of everything
@sk0sH i just meant that 4d is reality and the structure you see is 8d.
but whatever thats just speculation and dimensions are not proven to be existing after 4d.
because you just cant see past reality
and lsd for me is reality. the most realest reality you can get in this life
never tried dmt though
Xight oh you should lol. Enough shrooms I kinda feel going out into pure energy consciousness, on enough acid I could imagine the same but I’ve done some acid and mush trips so could of indeed been the shrooms pushing me out. Either way I do think this is solid, going out into the pure consciousness through space time, zooming out
Ahmed N Yeah and last time i took acid i took 300 ug and i thought it wasnt enough.. my third time i took over 1000, which is the first time i SAW the e 8d
As soon as the golden ratio came up I thought "oh boy here we go."
haha exactly :))
Yea I kinda peaced out after all the buzzwording
Correct. It insists upon itself. What a surprise.
The golden ratio is a very important concept in mathematics. You can have a lot of problems with Emergence Theory, but the golden ratio popping up in it's geometry equations shouldn't be one of them.
I can't tell what your criticism is exactly so please tell me if I misinterpret you. I don't remember what was said in the video, but I can tell you that the way Emergence Theory packs its 1D "pixels" or "code packets" is not _close to_ but _exactly_ at the golden ratio. This solely because it's geometrically the most efficient way to pack these things, any misinformed associations a layman might have with the name "golden ratio" is for him- or herself to uncover. The golden ratio is a frequently recurring constant that pops up all over science, maybe most notably in black hole entropy and DNA molecules. You're right that the term golden ratio has been a victim to many new age or quasiscience misusage. We don't dismiss E=mc^2 because of the term "energy", a word that's associated with a lot more woo hoo outside science than the golden ratio I can ensure you! ;D
If you care, maybe take a look at some examples of how the golden ratio is important in geometry: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio#Geometry
Also, what do you mean when you say "it is in fact exactly that, math"?
Cheers!
You did a great job scrathing the surface of a concept I've never heard of. So tank you.
“The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence.”
― Nikola Tesla
I guess this is the inverse of "a broken clock is still right twice a day." You can't _study_ non-physical phenomenon. The instant you can, it just becomes nature.
I'm not gonna lie, I zoned out at one point and started fantasising about lunch.
Such an easy target for A.I. Replacement.
because that's what the universe wanted you to do
I did too lol
stgodd You should fantasize about learning to spell. Gotta manifest your destiny, bruh.
I switched to reading comments when it really went over my head lol
That was really something. 👏👏👏 by the way when did I missed the 200k subscribers? Congrats man you really deserve it.
A few weeks ago. Thanks!
Oh, he deserves atleast ten times more. But as you know, entertainment will always be more appreciated than physics.
Well, I understood WOO WOO ALARM. Guess that someting to work with, right?
Woo woo alarm is very important.
You go looking for a theory of everything and arrive at metaphysics. No problemo I was already there. This was an incredible video. Very funny!
I saw it on the mushrooms trip. It's beautiful
I love the "WOO WOO ALARM". Garrett Lisi writes a paper entitled "An Exceptionally Simple Theory of Everything" and then Klee Irwin takes it and adds over 9000 layers of complication, metaphysics, and philosophy to it. Exceptionally simple, huh?
I was already pretty iffy when I heard golden ratio multiple times throughout the video, without giving the reasoning (though there might be a good reason for it, I haven't read the paper, nor am I able to).
Also: buzzwords!
Golden ratio! Tetrahedrons as voxels of the universe! Consciousness! Higher dimensional shapes inexplicably mapped to lower dimensions!
Still, at least the theory is provable/disprovable, so it has that going for it.
Well, if it's a Theory of *Everything* it would have to tie in to lots of other stuff (including the sets of abstractions we call "metaphysics" and "philosophy") by definition, wouldn't it? :)
Irwin and his institute kind set off some of my red flags for psuedo science trying to grab for donations.... but don't hold that against the original idea!
I dont buy the Klee Irwin stuff. Total scam.
LMAO
I like your honesty ..it's refreshing
I work in hospice and one of my patients believed in some of these things, he was odd but also very smart, really enjoyed math and technology-a really fun person to get to know ♥️
He said quantum physics/string theory is just regurgitated science from thousands of years ago (and said that about a lot of theories/science)
He felt that the common patterns in the universe and on Earth were proof that there is a divine creator. Like the golden ratio in nature and in design.
I don't really understand it (and I don't think we need to to appreciate it). The golden ratio in nature is an incredible thing. Idk just passing along what I've learned from him 😊
The moon's radius is .2727 times that of the Earth. Add them and square it, you get the golden ratio, basically.
common patterns prove nothing of the sort
You are very lucky to have met him
golden ratio is BS
This E8 Lie Group sounds somewhat interesting and might actually be a key idea/theory (and who knows - it might be connected to String theory in the end; both have additional dimensions in common). But everything after that sounds too esoteric for my liking (even though it sounds cool that the Golden Ratio might be "the fundamental constant in the universe").
Yeah, like I said, I think they take some leaps of logic but I know only a tiny percent of this.
Your honesty is always good for a thumbs-up … ;)
The plot of particles reminds me of the early stages of the periodic table through which we make cool predictions and know interesting similar properties. Could this be the same?
the golden ratio, in this case, has no magic powers, it is an emergent property. it and other numbers come everywhere when you have certain rules, like connect points with unit length lines.
Take some LSD or Magic Mushrooms or any other psychedelic and this will all make much more sense. If you go deep enough you can visit these Dimensions and live to tell. But be carefull.
I can tell you did your best. Quantum gravity is not the easiest thing to explain. Great job.
Thanks! 😄
I still have a copy of “The Magic Eye” book from the 90’s. I wasn’t aware it held the secrets of the universe. I must dust it off and consult the All Father.
The only thing I understood was „t-shirts are available now“
But are they really? 🤔
Video length 11:38
The force is strong in this one....
Good reference, padewan.
...but 1138 is itself a reference to THX 1138
Joel Smith a reference within a reference. We can keep tracing the references down to the Planck length.....
Even the Weak Force is strong in this one.
Alexandre Salau 😂😂😂
So, here are a few things:
1/ This is not the E8 Lie group, but a projection related to the root system of the associated Lie algebra (also called the E8 simple complex Lie algebra). The Lie group itself is 248-dimensional.
2/ Not representations, but rather projections.
Thanks for uh... clearing that up.
@@MrSamooska The devil is in the details :S Actually, even my comment is not completely accurate :S
@@stephanzhechev141 do you know if it is a guage theory or a different way of looking at it?
@@sumsar01 Hi. I don't know much physics, I am a mathematician. You can check the wikipedia page for the E8 Lie group (among other sources).
Somebody out there tripping on 'shrooms is watching this saying, "Well, duh!"
I may forget EVERYTHING I have ever heard or learned from you, but I'll never forget the double slit experiment. It tripped me out so much I can't unlearn that. Thank you for fun videos
"Maybe a little phallic "
Spit my coffee out of my nose.
Nice one
Why were you drinking with your nose? !
My contribution to the discussion will be a Carl Sagan quote and my reflection: "we are a way for the cosmos to understand itself". If we as humans with our own consciousness have created a video and the understanding to talk about the nature of reality, but we ourselves are just the most recent extensions of the big bang that formed the universe, and our makeup is that of the particles formed by the big bang, and the atoms formed in stars, then we are a part of, and not apart from, the nature of this reality. And we, as the part of nature that has human consciousness and language and the ability to discuss these topics through language and story, are attempting to understand ourself (the cosmos). So I do see a path towards a universal consciousness as the underlying makeup of reality (which I also thought was known as "panpsychism" not "emergence"). But that's about all I got :)
Thanks for the video!
Love that Sagan quote. I think the theory of everything is right in front of us..because it is us. We are the theory.
"You are an aperture through which the universe is looking at and exploring itself."
and
"You are a function of what the whole universe is doing in the same way that a wave is a function of what the whole ocean is doing."
both from Alan Watts
Joe, I gotta give ya credit . You do a really great job of wrapping your head and helping us wrap our heads around almost any subject you decide to unpack for your viewers. Keep up the good work. Your videos are a real treat
You just have to love how this replacement for string theory looks like string art.
It sounds kind of like the new periodic table.
AWESOME STUFF.... just heard about this from my 16YO son today!
"This is by no means accepted science at this point." world's biggest understatement.
How so? It's exactly what it is. There is no comparative to "not", unless you wanted to imply the idea is false/bullshit before it has even been tested. That would be foolishly narrow-minded though, so I assume that's not what you meant.
@@xhelloselm I think he means that this is the current most likely unifying theory of everything, not that it is bullshit
I looked for scientific curiosity and found none....
To misquote Aristotle: "An intelligent person can entertain an idea without believing it" Broaden your view, it is not painful...
In other words, this is purely speculative. Fair enough. So is string theory, which has many people all aquiver. (See what I did there?) This idea at least has one major advantage to string theory because it actually has testable hypotheses; while so far, string theory has NONE. Good luck. The years ahead will be interesting and I hope fruitful for science and humanity.
This is crazy cool. Reminds me of how Mendeleev predicted elements with the gaps in his periodic table
I had to stop the video and laugh at the first joke for a whole minute. Thank you !! I even like the corny photoshop .. thank you, thanku, thanku
Joe, you did a very good job of summing up E8 Lie theory.
Yah not bad.
Haha, that's awesome, the creator of the theory that is the subject of this video just said "Yah not bad." :)
Dude, you are actually Garrett Lisi???
:-)
Woah
Mind blown lol good stuff
I love how intellectually honest you are about stuff you don't know/don't quite understand!
Thanks Joe
The part when you stop reading and say “ I need to stop this right now “ is priceless!!! Hahaha 🤣 🤣🤣. So smart Love your work !!! One of my favorite channels on RUclips. You my friend deserve a Diamond 💎 RUclips plaque !! Great work.
Its your presentation which makes your videos interesting, cover all the interesting topics, just keep posting more videos
Bhagat Singh - It's the content that makes the videos interesting. The presentation is for 13-year-olds. Whacky!!
Don't shoot the messenger.
I like to shoot messengers when they do a bad job at being messengers.... ;)
Oh Joe, that was still a well done vid my friend. You didn't eat it, I don't think its possible for you to mess up that badly. Even 40% understanding is 39% more then the majority of your viewers is going to get. At first I thought it could have been a longer video to explain it better. Then when you started reading of that screen grab or what ever it was, i realised that no longer unit of time is going to help anybody :) anyway, as always, a pleasure to watch your vids mate even if i dont understand them :) take care Joe, hope your Tesla arrives soon!!
My channel has always been part entertainment and part education. When I reach the limits of what I can educate, I turn up the entertainment.
And you do it well! I subscribe to a metric f*$k ton of science wood and metel work, and a hole host of other stuff. Yours is the most entertaining yet educational subscription that i have. Well done :)
It's actually 4000% more, because 40% is 4000% more than 1%.... Did you get it?
Bartosz Kruszona I do get it yes, well done :)
Good attempt. Few observation to share. 1. Try removing time in therorizing and add interaction at all levels 2. Think that micro particles have "will" and are not willing to share thier secret because these particles think that science is not being nice to them. It implies that humans are not the only observer but everything else is. 3. Upgrade tools i.e. trying to study absolute world (quantam world) from relative approach i.e. with fundamental of gravity. This marriage of quantum and relative world is unlikely to happen. 4. Consider yourself as just one quantum particle to have absolute nature and see how do you interact with others. Everything is observing everything else. Put it mildly, if you want to see underlying structure of everything then you have to become one first.
Yeah, right. I see absolutely nothing that would encourage me to believe there is even a ghost of a theory here.
Well, you weren't paying attention.
I tried to, but the presenter gave up part way through. But I'm in favor of investigating everything, so hey, if someone thinks they might have something here, keep working on it.
But how then does one posit that delivering presents to everyone in the world can be acheived in the one evening?
Both ideas are, I guess, based on faith, or should I say, pure belief. A ghost of a theory or a ghost of a Santa.
Carlton Parfitt What is your point?
5:10
Joe: This is an 8D object that's been rendered down to 4D which was then rendered down to 3D and which you are now seeing in 2D on your screen and then trying to understand all that with your 1 dimensional brain lol😂
Wait.... I think my mind overheated. So if the universe is a form of consciousness and has created itself through the rise of consciousness (I'm not sure I'm getting this right), could that be a half scientific explanation of god? Or simulation... Anyways, great topic!
thats a paradox
The plank polygons do seem to suggest that reality is a simulation in some way. What's also interesting is that the shape looks like psilocybin dimensional trips and religious experiences so perhaps there is something to it after all.
I'm a physics student and I've looked into the work of Quantum Gravity Research quite a bit. From what I understand, all consciousness in the universe will eventually coalesce into a sort of god-like super civilization with a hive mind consciousness of its own. To be honest that seems like a pretty rational inevitability. From there, that consciousness creates the universe via a sort of retro-causal feedback loop. And it's not so much that the universe is made up of consciousness (as Joe put it), but rather that the universe is made up of information and that consciousness holds some kind of power over that information. So it's really not like the simulation hypothesis or especially any religion.
well looks stupid to me dont know what conciousness has to do with it at all and collapse of the wave function has nothing to do with conciousness messuring it which is a misinterpretation of QM
I don’t think the human mind will ever comprehend any of this. It’s no different than the mind of a dog comprehending calculus. If AI ever figures it out, I doubt we could be taught what AI learned.
Does this mean that the answer to "if a tree falls in the woods and nobody's around to hear it did if fall" is actually no or am I wildly misunderstanding this
I think I get what you're saying but you're assuming that a person's consciousness is somewhat strictly located, in a single "place" of some sort... There may be infinite copies of us, either in parallel universes or simply reoccurring at very large distances in this one (to arbitrarily high degrees of fidelity) in any recognizable situation (that is, tree or no tree) and no meaningful way to distinguish them, and not enough room to label them if we did. How do you know consciousness can exist in a single copy? Maybe you are feeling infinity right now.
Yeeeeeah that's not the saying tho dude. The question is. . "If a tree falls in the woods and there's no one there to hear it, does it make a sound?"..... Quite a different thing all together.
Some people drive on the right side of the road, some people drive on the wrong side :-)
How are you going to hold your jousting pole in your dominant hand if you're driving on the right? THINK!!!
The left side is the right side!
EscapeMCP That is actually the reason for the sides right? I thought it was for real about horses and being able to draw your sword. Anyone know lol? And vaguely thought the change of many countries to the right side was about horses blinkers and getting spooked or something.
But you repeat yourself Sir.
And then some people drive on the wrong side of the road in cars with the driver on the wrong side. Getting a cab ride in the Bahamas was... interesting. They were competent, but I can't say the same for many of their other drivers. British rules + American cars = total clusterfuck.
You said string theory and quantum loop gravity are not competitive. This is not really true. String theory can exist as a part of quantum loop gravity where as quantum loop gravity cannot exist as string theory. In fact string theory can be proven by showing that it is a subgroup of quantum loop gravity. As to a conscious universe, emergence theory, the more complex something gets the more alive or conscious it seems. Who knows. As to producing unknown particles, I do not think existing machines or any that may be built in the near future can reach the needed energy.
It may be how we use a certain amount of energy than getting a tremedous lot to produce results
A random thought, if a 3D object (a cube) produces a 2D shadow (a square in the floor or wall), and a 2D-ish square of paper produces a 1D shadow (a line) when illuminated from above, would a 4D object (something we can't directly see) produce in certain conditions (the angle of light) a 3D shadow we can see? (imagine a cube of shadow in the middle of the room)
5D object. We live in a 4D world (length, width, depth, time).
That said what you're talking about is the holographic universe theory. Look it up. Also there's the observers in a cave reference. It's gets deep and can apply to other things. I'd just stick with researching the holographic universe. Have fun with that.
@@ericalbers4867 wonder if there's a one dimensional space where only time exists, or can time not exist alone as a property, is it a property of spacial dimensions rather than a unique seperate thing. If so what is it about the nature of space that 'invokes' time 🤔
@@1invag That's a good question. We simply don't know what time "is" completely. We know what causes it, sort of. We know how it acts. There's still a lot we don't know. Is there a force carrier particle, is it a wave, or is it simply a result of something else.
We can see how it acts differently based on certain factors so it is real. Such as time dilation approaching the speed of light or around a black hole (inside one, time and space flip. It's hard to explain, a bit beyond my abilities anyway but you should look it up). It's a bit like living 1,000 years ago and knowing air is something but not knowing what it is or why it is.
@@1invag I think time is the unfurling of entropy at all points in space...?
If time actually does have a particle *in theory* would it be fair to assume that it would also likely have an 'anti time' counter part 🤔 because that would be cool. Also I propose renaming time as dark time 😁 seeing as though it seems like the done thing
Emergence theory... this is what I experienced, when I was dead for three minutes. Changed my entire life.
It will be interesting to follow how science and spirituality inevitably unite.
They are at odds with one another. Science aims to destroy spirituality. If it one days succeeds in explaining everything what will there be to be spiritual about? That doesn't mean you can't enjoy the human experience, love, and all that, it just means you can't claim to be aware of some mystical force.
Gregg, perhaps they will find the answer here: ruclips.net/video/vnrD8nerYH4/видео.html
It sounds like you've made up your mind, and one day hope to find the evidence to support your belief. That is antithetical to science, learning, and being honest about understanding the world.
But.. you do you.
@@x1plus1x Science is the ultimate form of realism, it is the core of our culture. When an entire civilisation is focused on a single value it strengthens the polarity between all the potential values a civilisation might adopt that may be more ideal.
The greeks have been wrestling with this stuff in philosophy for a long time, dont get facetious in your reply to peoples views on spirituality. Science has made massive leaps in understanding how things function, but subjectivity has escaped it completely. Spirituality is still the best candidate for that, science is a losers idea to describe subjective reality, conciousness, existence, meaning, ideal.
Basically whay im saying is that if you think youre smart because you parade around science like it is the singular ideal paradigm, then youre a loser idiot that doesnt understand the basic "there are two sides to every story".
@@haydenroyal2433 I'm tempted to rant back to you, but instead, I'll ask you to watch this awesome Feynman lecture:
ruclips.net/video/EYPapE-3FRw/видео.html
I don't know what it all means or what they are trying to say but it sounds cool! I do find it interesting that this new theory has an 8th dimensional shape and that the bluebrain project came up with an 8th dimensional topography map of the brain.. this now has my interest
Huh. Haven’t heard of that.
Joe Scott its called the bluebrain project check it out if you have the time
Also pbs has a video called "your mind is 8th dimensional" on RUclips
"Youre gonna eat one" loooool
Your statement about 'lay people' and your worries (around 7:45) are exactly the reasons I watch your posts. You don't claim to understand. But you do your best. And that is at the core of science.