Derrick Coleman: He was supposed to be THE GREATEST POWER FORWARD OF ALL TIME | FPP
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
- He’s the ultimate story of Wasted Potential; he was thought many to be on his way to a hall of fame NBA career after putting together one of the greatest college careers in 4 years with Syracuse. He came to the Nets with the expectation to be the franchise saviour and it seemed like that what was going to happen as he, Kenny Anderson and Drazen Petrovic had the Nets looking primed for greatness. But with the tragic passing of Petrovic, things began to unravel and questions around Derrick Coleman’s attitude and work ethic began to get louder. He would eventually be traded to the 76ers to play with Allen Iverson and Jerry Stackhouse, but Stackhouse was traded and Coleman continued to struggle with his weight and injuries. He would sign with the Charlotte Hornets before the lockout season in 1999, but this would be a forgettable 3 years as his struggles with alcohol and weight became more prominent, he missed a lot of games, and again fell out of favour with coaching and management. He made his way back to a situation he liked by returning to Philly in 2002 and although he was committed, alcohol had a serious strangle on his life and he was never able to stay in shape or play like the star he was in New Jersey. But at this point he was also in his mid 30s and after a few seasons in Philly he would end his career with a brief stint in Detroit in 2005. Derrick Coleman was a generational talent and should be firmly in the discussion of greatest forwards of all time, but poor attitude, injuries and alcohol derailed his hall of fame career. But, he was still always regarded as a great teammate and even with him playing as a shell of his former self once he left New Jersey he still put some great numbers and one can only wonder how much better they could have been if he was in shape and invested.
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After the water crisis began in Flint, Michigan, Coleman drove 65 miles daily to bring residents clean bottled water and eating utensils, which they did not have access to
Derrick, Kenny and drazen was supposed to be together for years but it didn’t happen rip drazen 🙏🏽
What are you talking about ?
You can't forget Jason Williams was on those teams to if I remember right and Chris Dudley so they had some defense and rebounding also then that's where my favorite team growing up
Chuck Daly had them on the go.
That big 3 caused problems in the regular season. RIP Drazen. That dude was AUTOMATIC shooting from anywhere
@@johnpablo7716 he talkin about Kenny Anderson and drazen petriovic who sadly died in car crash
In 2k23 we can *finally* play as the 92-93 Nets!😍
DC played his whole career with a HOLE in his heart. He is reason why Ben Simmons never overly impressed me.
and in his head
@@dexteride😂😂😂
This^
What do you mean a HOLE in his heart?
@@pheo1418 he was born with a heart defect that gave him an irregular heart beat.
Could dribble, shoot, post, finish, pass.... he was simply a beast
One of my favorite PF of all time. His game was too nice!
Crazy nice. I always catch people off guard when I mention DC. I've never ran into anyone who didn't agree how nice he was.
Mine also
I remember having his rookie card and guarding it with my life while also flexing owning it. 🤦🤣
Too bad he wasn’t dedicated enough. He could’ve be a hofer.
If he had just 25 % of Jordans or Kobes drive he could have been on par with Duncan.
Tools/ talent wise there is no PF that had more than him even to this day. His ball handling skill alone and ability to bring the ball up still kind of separate his from anyone you'd consider top 5 GOAT PFs. It just shows though mindset truly is what makes the true greats.
In MY Opinion.........DC is @the Lower end of Top 10 ALL Time NBA PF's!!!!!!!!!!! He INDEED was/is 1 of thee Most Naturally Gifted pf Ever and along w/Rasheed, it's their self Discipline that cost them.....
He had all the tools (size, strength, quickness, mobility, hops) and skills (shooting, post game, ball ballhandling, passing, defense--perimeter/post/shot-blocking--rebounding). He just wasn't dedicated and had an awful attitude.
With a better attitude and dedication, he's an athletic Larry Bird, easily.
His size and skills at PF were truly unprecedented. His shortcomings are well documented here. But the man's skills and talent were undeniable. Very good, nonetheless, but .... What could have been.
I'm proud to say growing up I owned a pair of Derrick Coleman British Knights BK Dymacel shoes 😂
Me too! White & blue.
Hell yea! 5th grade going to school in jersey my pops got me the black pair! Luv ya dad
BK's were the sh1t. Especially a little further back in the 80s when I was growing up.
I played basketball in the Detroit Public School League and in the 1993-1994 season, Derrick Coleman gave every varsity squad in the Detroit Public School League a pair for each player.
DC was de-railed! Mr Chibbs, Drazen and Coleman were awesome together! Huge WHAT IF here. Thanks for this one!
Man this channel is tight!
All these videos are just showing me that MJ wasn’t the only one getting down in the 90s 😅
DEE-CEE, Derrick Coleman!
RIP Petrovic... very good PF Mr. Coleman
DC was a better more rounded player than Karl Malone..could handle the rock like a gaurd, pass and shoot from the perimeter and an 77% free throw shooter compared to Malones 74% could have been one of the greatest but he was a head case
Coleman was a very solid player, somewhat of a prototype.
i loved coleman's game. he was so good!
Pretty much demarcus cousins before demarcus cousins
DC and Larry Johnson brought in the Power Forwards that could dribble, shoot the 3 and pass along with Chris Webber.
Actually Webber couldn't shoot with those guys, not til later in his career.
I'm from Detroit and Derrick Coleman was and still is one the greatest Power Forward to come out of this city
we gotta get one on the pg of that team kenny anderson. he was so lethal at tech and early on in his nba career he flashed all star potential. tragic how outside issues derailed his career
One of the best sports channels on RUclips. Especially if you grew up in the 90s
Or 80s
I watched dcole
With the nets
Man o Man!!! I remember DC WELL!! I use to go up to (his high school) Northern and watch him play. Him and a kid named Derrick Gross use to put on a show!!! Loved DC and Steve Smith, they use be hell together at the Saint.
Those best of 5 playoff series were serious!
Imagine a best of 3 first round. It was that until 1984. One year after the Lakers won the championship they lost in the 1st round Mini Series. Couple of years later it was a best of 5
He was way ahead of his time.
i know you put him in a disregarded duo video but you should totally doa fpp on kevin willis i feel hes underappreciated considering he played in the league for 21 years
Jackson, Michigan!!!
The only 7 footer I've ever seen that had short arms
Love what your doing..instead the same old tired MJ vs Lebron debates that other channels are pushing..you provide real value ..shining a light on sooo many greatplayers many people have never heard of ..would like to see more of this...heres a few suggestions if you haven't done them already
Kenny Anderson
Shawn Kemp
Alonzo Mourning
Tim Hardaway
Chris Mullins
Bernard King
Mitch Richmond
Nate Robinson
Jamal Wilkes (people forget in game 6 against 76er's when LA won chip in Magics rookie year ..magic scored 42 but Jamal dropped 37pts and 10 rebounds)
Mark Price
Jason Kidd
Steve Nash
Reggie Miller
Ray Allen ( in when he was a Sonic)
Maurice Cheeks
Dennis Johnson
Kevin McHale
Tracy McGrady
Vince Carter
Grant Hill
Steve Smith
Nick Van Exel
Mark Aguirre (in Dallas before Detroit)
Adrian Dantley
Boogie Cousins played a lot like him especially during his prime
Years ago my nephew asked me about DC and I told him a current example of a player who could end up like him (i.e, not in a good way) was Cousins 🙃
Can you do Terry Cummings 😃
Interested one.
I love this channel!!!!! My voice gets heard and the content is 🔥🔥🔥🔥.
Whoop de damn doo. That's all you need to know about him.
in the playoffs for the Nets, Coleman AVERAGED 43 minutes & 25 pppg & 41% threes... fax!!!
The guy was always clutch and in the playoffs when he actually cared you could see how insane he really was!
By far Coleman was my favorite player on NBA JAM Tournament Edition. He had the best versatile stats.
If you went to Detroit in the 90s and visited any neighborhood park, you'll see a lot of big dudes with skills like DC. and Chris Webber.💪🏿
Easy!!!
Coleman tried to repair the community of detroit and almost went broke behind it.
I loved watching D.C. playing basketball 🏀. He’s one of the reasons I am a fan of the program.
That NJ team was Good!
DC is a Beast! But somewhere… He stop loving the game
There are a number of power forwards who based on their skill levels should of been locks for the HOF, but from injuries to indifference they probably won't make it. In my opinion the list includes Antonio McDyess, Larry Johnson, Danny Manning, Rodney Rogers, and Tom Gugliotta who had injuries along the way, but as far as i'm concerned the likes of Shawn Kemp, Vin Baker, Roy Tarpley, Derrick Coleman, and to a lesser extent Rasheed Wallace were their own respective worst enemies as the skill sets of these 5 was undeniable.
Rasheed & DC are 2 of MY ALL Time Favorites!!! My Favorite is "Chuck". Ticket being unbiased is Probably The BEST EVER. Roy Tarpley IF Stayed Straight Path...........was An Absolute ANIMAL & Could've Probably Been #1. There wasn't much, anyone could do against HIM!
Kemp was a beast. Six consecutive all star appearances.
I'd take McDyess & Gugliotta off that list. Googs was skilled & strong but he was a tin man. Funny how Baker & Kemp were traded for each other. Both had alcohol & food issues. Think Rasheed will make the HOF bc they put Ben Wallace in
Glen Robinson, tim Thomas, shareef Abdul raheem
Coleman was a monster.
Yeah I was just a kid when he came out but I remember that there was definitely something different about him.
I saw a video about Eddie Jones a while back, then another, now this. I love these videos man! I was born in 1986, so from 1990 on I was hooked! I'm a Rockets(Hakeem) fan! Mad max was pretty nasty back in the day. You can do so many of these! So many great players that don't get the Bird/Magic coverage. I'll be looking for to it, as I subbed!
Same as me but i was born in 1985
Vernon Maxwell was a good one. He was a nut!! Mad Max was the perfect nickname bc that Ninja was crazy. A fierce competitor with a good game. Everytime Houston played Chicago Mad Max would start a fight with Jordan
@@mongoslade277 I REALLY wish we would've gotten the Bulls v Rockets in the finals! My personal choice for biggest missed opportunity in NBA history!
@@grantwileyesq.5962 The Rockets definitely would've beat the Bulls in 1995. Not sure about 1993 but they did matchup
Keep the content coming 🔥🔥🔥
I'm a Syracuse Orangemen fan so I saw his career from college to the NBA!!!
I cried like a baby when Petro died. Changed DCs career
You are helping my hoops grids out immensely.
Love this channel!
Yo, Derrick is still one of the best PF I have ever seen. If this dude was dedicated to his craft he'd be considered an all time great in my opinion. Could handle the rock, board and pass the ball. One of my favorite players.
I have always said that Karl Malone was seen as the best power forward in the NBA in the decade of the 90s, but there was not one single facet of the game that Derrick Coleman was not better at than Malone.
@@scoonman Agreed. People just don't know how talented DC was. A straight beast in my opinion.
@@scoonman @Qq
Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard. PFs like Coleman and Kemp were more talented than Malone and Barkley but they didn't have anywhere near the discipline those guys had.@@scoonman
Jogging some old memories here...
Thank you 🙂
I played basketball in the Detroit Public School League and in the 1993-1994 season, Derrick Coleman gave every varsity squad in the Detroit Public School League a pair of his signature BK Dymacel Shoes for each player.
Great video; however it's really difficult to explain how good young DC was!!
Loving the work you put into these. Great stuff!
It's crazy how much weight he put on playing professional basketball. I barely recognized him in the Syracuse clips.
I love feeling I get watching this channel real life Nostalgia D.C was a bad man on that court he was the best Scratch 4 in the NBA at one time not the first lambert was the first one that I seem
Great vid.
Yess!! This is a great mention, Derrick had the skill and imo he could've have ended his career as one of the best pf if he had the drive.
Keep the content up man! Been helping me out a lot while away from my work and basketball due to injury. 😄👌
Appreciate it. Hope you heal up quickly 🙏
@@ForgottenPlayerProfiles Thank you! ❤️
College Basketball lost it’s heart when the big east splintered a few years ago😢
As a Nets fan growing up in the late 80s-90s (such brutal times to be a Net fan and that says a lot) I couldn't believe how talented Coleman was but of course there was the frustration that he mostly played with zero desire to win. If he had just a tenth of the drive and attitude of someone like Kobe or MJ there's not a doubt in my mind he'd be in the goat conversation.
You your words out DC at the very end was 100% correct.
That was a good trio: Coleman, Petrovic, Anderson
My FAVORITE player.
I was born in 1990 and got into sports in 95, but it was basically the Indians as the Browns left and the Cavs sucked so I didn't follow basketball til Lebron came around. I was watching the championship vs. IU on NCAA vault and was blown away by how good Coleman was and wondered why I'd never seen or heard of him
Was a fan of his since his Syracuse days ultimately underachieved
Heavy.
Ps The Alaska Shootout was a stellar tournament.
Pps 1993 Nets were a good team.
1 of the most talented players to ever grace an NBA floor
To this day I still don’t understand how the timekeeper shaved 3 seconds off the clock in the ‘87 Indiana game!!!
Coleman was a beast in his prime
As someone who is a diehard lifelong Syracuse fan, I always thought Derrick Coleman literally had the talent to be on the Mount Rushmore of power forwards in NBA history. I saw him play countless times at SU, and during his time with the nets I used to go see them quite often. Where he lost luster for me was the blank incident with Butch Beard. I will always respect his game and his natural ability but that just didn’t sit right with me and it never has, and never will.
DC was ALWAYS playing with subpar conditioning which negatively impacted his game. Had he had a strength and conditioning program to put muscle on him and stamina in him, he would be in the HOF today.
Andrew Toney next
GOOD ONE
Salute and thank you for doing Derrick Coleman, I was a big fan of his since the Syracuse Orangemen College days . One of my Favorite PF all time He could score inside & outside he also had handles with play making for others skills. Him Kenny & Drazen did not have a long enough run ( rip) Drazen. No excuses for Him but not having a veteran to show him the ropes and how a professional handles himself on and off the court hurt him also. Might I add having a Coach who knows how to get the most out of the players helps. salute from chicago
Billy Owens
Him and Anderson were my Duo growing outside of Jordan and Pippen.
D.C.was THAT dude!!!!
Coleman was a super talent and should have been a Hall of Famer. He was a # 1 overall pick in his draft class. In the NBA he lacked the hunger and tenacity to take his game to the elite level. He still was a good pro however.
Need a Kenyon Martin episode
Coleman reminds me of Weatherspoon, a similat type of PF both didn't stretch out to their expectations
That charlotte hornets court and uniforms were fire
Had the talent and skill to be one of the best forwards ever. But bad attitude and low work ethic will derail anyone.
18:08 he’s right every NBA team needs a veteran player
Poster boy for the whiny new era of players in the early 90's. Could have been one of the best ever.
Haha you just reminded me of that infamous SI cover from '95: Picture of a whiny-looking Coleman on the bench, with just the caption: "WAAAAAHH!!" 🤣🤣👶🏻🍼
DC was a killer on the Court but if he had today's media coverage they would be killing him for always having a bad game in big moments and having a attitude. He was still a seriously solid player. Him, Drazen, and Kenny Anderson should have been legendary
Stevie Thompson didn’t start in finals against IU. They had Brewer and Triche in there
Detroit legend
DC!😎
When you think about some of the greatest centers of all time like Willis Reed or Wes Unseld, Derrick Coleman would look like a super freak athlete in their time with his skill set.
So sad. The hype around him as a NBA rookie was unreal. I had a Derrick Coleman hologram trading card that was supposed to go up tremendously in value due to the expectations of his success and dominance in the NBA. 2 seasons later and he was already seen as a disappointment that won't reach the heights of the lofty expectations.
There was nothing DC couldn't do on the court.Score from the post or the perimeter.Rebound.Block shots.Handle.Shoot free throws.Chris Webber is the closest to him in terms of style of play and talent.
I remember having his rookie card and guarding it with my life while also flexing owning it. 🤦🤣
Derek Coleman played for Chuck Daily. If that had been the story for his whole career he would be a household name today.
I love these 👍🏾👍🏾👏🏿👏🏿Can we get one on Terry Porter Derek Harper Hedo Turkoglu and Cliff Robinson?
terry porter🔥🔥
Really tho whole p town team is underrated
Fat lever is who I want him to do soon kids need to know
Think russ slash ai In the late 80s nuggets with Alex English who also could use a nod
HEDO!!!! 🔥
@@ethanniedorowski116Fat kinda reminded me of Jason Kidd. With a better outside shot
@@sideshowbobsaget8876Yup. Both were triple double machines. Fat Lever had a better game than Kidd like you said
Put a pop filter on that mic, please :)
It's also distorting the audio level going into the computer. Pros use a moderate mic level (peaking at around -10dB) and use post-compression and limiting to get a huge sound.
Talent wise and ability wise, DC had the potential to be in the same catagory as Barkkey,K.Malone, Garnett,Duncan, Dirk ,McHale ect...
Could you do a Juwan Howard profile in the future?
You should do Kiki VanDeWeghe next
Kenny Anderson was the reason Bill Fitch quit. Fitch wanted to draft Dkembe Mtumbo with the second overall pick but GM Willis Reed picked Anderson.
DC was a Beast...
Derrick Coleman is one of the few players that dunked on Shaq.
That nets was great team
I'm not gonna fuel the controversy but I do think that a scottie pippin video would be great. As the years go by I do believe he's forgotten as a player. Oh yeah Ron harper also
Do Terry Porter
Please one on Jeff Ruland