It is funny with the scoring, to hear how Perkins is much further behind Kjell than we expected. While at the same time his dots score is 7 points higher lol. The format is interesting, but I think the biggest misfortune is the fact that Kjell and Perkins would likely compete in the same class if it wasnt for the format leaving that 66 opening.
Perk had a bad meet right? Right? Dawg, with that performance alone he still is the best pound for pound (DOTS and GL, btw). So 100% agree it's crazy that he did "so badly" while having one of the best performances ever (only behind others of his own!). I guess we were all expecting something crazy like 870-880 (which honestly I think is feasible*), but that would have been equivalent to the 800 for Kjell... * he benched 215 a few times in prep, albeit some touch and go, so one might expect 5-10kg more on his bench (missed 205 seemingly due to carpet, so maybe new pad helps on the other end?), and something looked off with his deadlift, almost if he was unpeaked for it. He could have gotten in the 850-860, but he was dealt a bad hand for the meet anyway
Woah I didn't realise this was the Jonnie Candito at first...I'm a huge fan man! Also yeah but can't forget that Kjell caused a significant jump to the 74 WR before dropping down. And if it was that easy could Perk have dropped down to 66 and done the same thing? Maybe, but we'll never know.
Pana needs to bulk to 83. I’m so tired of watching him make no progress by forcing himself to be so lean and grind out all his lifts so hard. He’d do so much better by taking 2 years off from competing and putting a bunch of weight on
Not sure about 83 haha but I agree he definitely needs to move up to the 74s at least. Imagine how much more he could grind with more bodyweight to support him...
THANK YOU for the take on pana. everyone glazes him on social media for all his lifts done at 69-70kg and he doesn’t even pause his benches close to IPF standards in training. his highest total doesn’t come close to kjell and that was at 69.7. Pana’s streak on the 66’s was similar to Russ after gibbs was done
Yeah, as good as the constant grinding and maxing out in training is for social media you have to wonder if it's doing him many favours when it comes to his training...
I know it’s hard, but including footage of the lifts if that’s not a copyright issue would be a game changer for these vids. First vid of yours that I watched and I love it man
I do think that jesus will his WR again, maybe not next year but soon You can‘t forget that his girlfriend gave birth a few weeks ago before sheffield and I think that messed up his prep with a lot of sleeples nights. He also talked about his lack of sleep on his youtube videos a little bit His bw is down a bit but I don‘t think that has that of a tremendous impact like you thought it had on his performance this year, he is still at almost 400lbs, 10lbs off or on that won‘t make much of a difference imo But you said it correctly if he wants to break his WR again he has to get his Grip on point Other than that great video and great takes
Thank you! Yeah that definitely sounds like a big factor then. Would love to see him keep pushing the WR, especially since he doesn't really have any head to head competition.
He was given a down command though...so I guess it comes down to whether or not lowering the bar while it slips out of your hands (but not losing contact) counts as "lowering under control"
@@PresserPowerlifting We'd really need to see the video itself with live audio of the "down" command. If he got the down command as soon as he got to the top but the main referee did not make him hold it, the jury can step in and overturn the lift if he has at least one red light. This the in the IPF rulebook, but in something like WRPF, you only need to lock it out. No holding and demonstration of lockout control is required for a good lift, mainly due to whippy deadlift bars
@@AsyaChakarova also, the one to give him the white light was the central referee...so the one giving the commands. Anyway, watching the lift I too had the impression that the bar was slipping before he could even get the command (basically he reached the lockout but he was never in control at the top).
Russ had went on white lights pod and had admitted it was slipping saying it was a 50/50 call and that’s y he didn’t celebrate. I think he was putting bar down as he was getting the down command, nonetheless incredible lift and wish it was ruled good as a fan myself but he will definitely be back for it
Matt Gary has talked about the fact that when he coached Ray Williams, Ray had issues with his hands ballooning up every time he squatted north of 455KG, Jesus must be running into the same problem that big squat must be sending his blood pressure through the roof.
It can't just be me who thinks Russ's squats all looked high? Camera angles are deceptive, and the judges all thought they were in, which is all that matters. Still though...
They looked fine to me but i think proper side cameras should definitely be a thing. It is so frustrating not nowing wheter something can or cannot be overturned when the rules for depth are so simple. There is no reason for it to not be a yer or no situation.
What were they using to rank? Definitely not DOTs anymore right. Also, I dont know if i agree that Jesus will never break his WR. He's only 24, and has plenty of time to lock in.
Definitely a possibility, can't forget his training total leading into Sheffield being 750-760. Thing is though if you're looking at training totals at a higher bw you have to look at Kjell's 800+ ones lol so either way he's pretty far out in front
@ it’s clear there are weight classes that are way weaker relatively than others. Like I said it’s who made the most progress not who’s the best lifter.
Pana is gone. Out. forever. there's no class he can be competitive in. 74s? he's not gonna add 50+ kg on his squat. he may get to a190-200 bench and a 320 deadlift (maybe). Jesus? we may have seen his peak. no 500kg squat from him. he will continue to lose grip on deadlift and he may never lift over 900 in comp. Perk is gonna be the top dawg in the 74s for a while until Borenstein does a Kjell and drops down to the 74s again and totals 900kg (this will happen in 2029, the same year Ray Kurzweil predicts AI will reach human level intelligence).
I mean I still think he'd be a strong podium threat as a filled out 74, hard to see him winning any more Worlds titles though. Haha love the bold prediction, time will tell...
I mean the whole point is to brake records, so it wouldn’t be so entertaining and I think it’s kind of fun when for example Kjell dropped to 66 to have a better chance of winning, and also dot score isn’t really so fair
Absolutely not! Going by WR% is much better than dots especially for casual viewers, it's just so much more intuitive for people who aren't necessarily super into powerlifting already (which is kind of SBD's target audience with Sheffield). And yes agree with @hugoharning3016 dots scores aren't perfect either, remember all the USAPL pro series meets that were scored on dots? Yeah neither does anyone cos no one cared lol.
Also regarding a "worse" lifter dropping down to a less contested class, that's only half of what Kjell did to win Sheffield... Keep an eye out for my next video cos this is exactly what I'll be discussing!
True Daniel Clements did 745.5, super strong guy. But that was as a 67.5 in usapl, his most recent meet at 66 was 717.5, only 2.5 ahead of Kasemsand. He could get back to that peak strength at 66 but he hasn't done so yet...
@ i dont care neither hater or fan. But he admitted on the interview that it clearly was slipping and that he wouldnt give himself a white light either
He wasn't before Sheffield when he out-totalled Russ and he sure as hell isn't now that Russ reclaimed the biggest 83 total. Needs to do it head to head and/or hit that crazy 900 on the platform. Definitely only seems like a matter of time though
Russ is a clown with grip issues and too full of himself and he knows about his grip issues as you can see it in his training sessions,he is also acting cringe all time time like he is the best of the best , fact which was proven wrong now ! Kjell is basically a midget with a 5 cm ROM on all lifts and tbh there is nothing impressive about him, and Pana has zero progress for the last 3 years i don't even get it why he still competes.There are few powerlifters out there that do the sport justice because most of the rest are just finding ways to abuse the rules with stupid bench arches and 1 inch ROM deadlifts.
Wow a lot of interesting opinions here... First of all Russ is quite literally the best as the WR holder and greatest 83 lifter of all time. And even if he wasn't, god forbid the man has fun with his training lol. Saying there is nothing impressive about Kjell when he just totalled 770 @ 66 is crazy. And in the last 3 years Pana has won a world title and podiumed at another.
Sumo doesn't matter nearly as much as you think it does. Russ came first pulling conventional. Lya Bavoil and Pana both choose to pull conventional despite their opponents pulling sumo, I promise you if they were stronger with sumo they'd use it. Sumo argument is so outdated
"a man can only grind for so long" in reference to Pana is diabolical work. Great video man
Haha thanks man!
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It is funny with the scoring, to hear how Perkins is much further behind Kjell than we expected. While at the same time his dots score is 7 points higher lol. The format is interesting, but I think the biggest misfortune is the fact that Kjell and Perkins would likely compete in the same class if it wasnt for the format leaving that 66 opening.
Perk had a bad meet right? Right?
Dawg, with that performance alone he still is the best pound for pound (DOTS and GL, btw).
So 100% agree it's crazy that he did "so badly" while having one of the best performances ever (only behind others of his own!).
I guess we were all expecting something crazy like 870-880 (which honestly I think is feasible*), but that would have been equivalent to the 800 for Kjell...
* he benched 215 a few times in prep, albeit some touch and go, so one might expect 5-10kg more on his bench (missed 205 seemingly due to carpet, so maybe new pad helps on the other end?), and something looked off with his deadlift, almost if he was unpeaked for it. He could have gotten in the 850-860, but he was dealt a bad hand for the meet anyway
Woah I didn't realise this was the Jonnie Candito at first...I'm a huge fan man! Also yeah but can't forget that Kjell caused a significant jump to the 74 WR before dropping down. And if it was that easy could Perk have dropped down to 66 and done the same thing? Maybe, but we'll never know.
Pana needs to bulk to 83. I’m so tired of watching him make no progress by forcing himself to be so lean and grind out all his lifts so hard. He’d do so much better by taking 2 years off from competing and putting a bunch of weight on
Not sure about 83 haha but I agree he definitely needs to move up to the 74s at least. Imagine how much more he could grind with more bodyweight to support him...
@@PresserPowerlifting ye def, dudes also giga lean could definitely has room to put on more weight
THANK YOU for the take on pana. everyone glazes him on social media for all his lifts done at 69-70kg and he doesn’t even pause his benches close to IPF standards in training. his highest total doesn’t come close to kjell and that was at 69.7. Pana’s streak on the 66’s was similar to Russ after gibbs was done
Yeah, as good as the constant grinding and maxing out in training is for social media you have to wonder if it's doing him many favours when it comes to his training...
@@PresserPowerlifting100%
Bar already went down on the lockout for Russ
he definitely didn't get robbed
I know it’s hard, but including footage of the lifts if that’s not a copyright issue would be a game changer for these vids. First vid of yours that I watched and I love it man
I'm glad! Yeah ok that's definitely a consideration for future videos
I guess bobb made up his mind already on what is actually important for him.
Yeah fair enough, I guess you gotta respect the commitment to the bulk lol
I do think that jesus will his WR again, maybe not next year but soon
You can‘t forget that his girlfriend gave birth a few weeks ago before sheffield and I think that messed up his prep with a lot of sleeples nights. He also talked about his lack of sleep on his youtube videos a little bit
His bw is down a bit but I don‘t think that has that of a tremendous impact like you thought it had on his performance this year, he is still at almost 400lbs, 10lbs off or on that won‘t make much of a difference imo
But you said it correctly if he wants to break his WR again he has to get his Grip on point
Other than that great video and great takes
Thank you! Yeah that definitely sounds like a big factor then. Would love to see him keep pushing the WR, especially since he doesn't really have any head to head competition.
You need to hold the bar montionless and in control. Russ was not robbed on his last deadlift
He was given a down command though...so I guess it comes down to whether or not lowering the bar while it slips out of your hands (but not losing contact) counts as "lowering under control"
@@PresserPowerlifting We'd really need to see the video itself with live audio of the "down" command. If he got the down command as soon as he got to the top but the main referee did not make him hold it, the jury can step in and overturn the lift if he has at least one red light.
This the in the IPF rulebook, but in something like WRPF, you only need to lock it out. No holding and demonstration of lockout control is required for a good lift, mainly due to whippy deadlift bars
@@mariomolnar3184 Russel had 2 reds with yellow pointing a skip of a command
@@AsyaChakarova also, the one to give him the white light was the central referee...so the one giving the commands.
Anyway, watching the lift I too had the impression that the bar was slipping before he could even get the command (basically he reached the lockout but he was never in control at the top).
Slipping out of his hand , and he jumped the command
Europe 5/6 podium ❤😊
No US lifters on either podium is crazy!
24:30 its even worse when you consider a 1045kg is in his range now...
Hell he could have even gone as a light 120 again and still podiumed pretty easily...
@PresserPowerlifting he took "have faith in yourself" pretty seriously
That he did haha. Man I can't wait for that showdown
It’s sad because if Pana moves up to 74kg, he’s not even close to Austin Perkins level
True but if he stays he's not much closer to Kjell... Pick your poison I guess
give perk sometime, this was only his second international meet
Oh I'm sure he'll definitely smash these numbers in the future!
Russ had went on white lights pod and had admitted it was slipping saying it was a 50/50 call and that’s y he didn’t celebrate. I think he was putting bar down as he was getting the down command, nonetheless incredible lift and wish it was ruled good as a fan myself but he will definitely be back for it
Yeah absolutely could have gone either way. I agree he'll be back for even more in future
Check the Russ video on the front and see why it is not a good attempt, although he gives a great performance.
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pana should really go up to 74
Absolutely, my next video is about lifters who should change weight class and he's amongst them for sure
Pana desperately needs to move up tbh
I love pana but he would be absolutely no match to Perk. But then again no one except Kjell will win -66 for a good 5 years. Bad place to be for pana
pana needs to move up but it’ll be a long time before he challenges perk or even kjells 812.5
I agree he should move up, but yeah being stuck between Kjell and Perk it's gonna be real tough either way
Matt Gary has talked about the fact that when he coached Ray Williams, Ray had issues with his hands ballooning up every time he squatted north of 455KG, Jesus must be running into the same problem that big squat must be sending his blood pressure through the roof.
Oh wow. I mean makes sense, can't imagine the kind of stress that weight puts on the body
It can't just be me who thinks Russ's squats all looked high? Camera angles are deceptive, and the judges all thought they were in, which is all that matters. Still though...
Need the side angles
Looked fine to me, always hard to judge depth on someone with such big legs like Russ
Not all, I say his Opener was solid!
Honestly, I thought a lot of the squats looked high. It mightve just been the horrible TV angle. I thought russ third was borderline though.
They looked fine to me but i think proper side cameras should definitely be a thing. It is so frustrating not nowing wheter something can or cannot be overturned when the rules for depth are so simple. There is no reason for it to not be a yer or no situation.
What were they using to rank? Definitely not DOTs anymore right. Also, I dont know if i agree that Jesus will never break his WR. He's only 24, and has plenty of time to lock in.
Not dots, % of WR total broken. Yeah it's crazy how young he still is for already being a 4x world champ lol
Great takeaways.. but please get a better mic!
Haha yep, already done bro
Coach Opor(Kasem) will come back trust!
Definitely a possibility, can't forget his training total leading into Sheffield being 750-760. Thing is though if you're looking at training totals at a higher bw you have to look at Kjell's 800+ ones lol so either way he's pretty far out in front
Also subscribing- good content.
Appreciate it!
Sheffield is a stupid meet. It’s about having the biggest improvements not being the actual best lifter. What a joke.
I'd argue the guy breaking the world record in his respective weight class by the most is the one that's the actual best lifter on the day.
@ it’s clear there are weight classes that are way weaker relatively than others. Like I said it’s who made the most progress not who’s the best lifter.
Pana is gone. Out. forever. there's no class he can be competitive in. 74s? he's not gonna add 50+ kg on his squat. he may get to a190-200 bench and a 320 deadlift (maybe). Jesus? we may have seen his peak. no 500kg squat from him. he will continue to lose grip on deadlift and he may never lift over 900 in comp. Perk is gonna be the top dawg in the 74s for a while until Borenstein does a Kjell and drops down to the 74s again and totals 900kg (this will happen in 2029, the same year Ray Kurzweil predicts AI will reach human level intelligence).
I mean I still think he'd be a strong podium threat as a filled out 74, hard to see him winning any more Worlds titles though. Haha love the bold prediction, time will tell...
Do you think Sheffield should go by dots instead of wr %?
Seems kinda dumb that a “worse” lifter could win in a less contested class.
I mean the whole point is to brake records, so it wouldn’t be so entertaining and I think it’s kind of fun when for example Kjell dropped to 66 to have a better chance of winning, and also dot score isn’t really so fair
Absolutely not! Going by WR% is much better than dots especially for casual viewers, it's just so much more intuitive for people who aren't necessarily super into powerlifting already (which is kind of SBD's target audience with Sheffield). And yes agree with @hugoharning3016 dots scores aren't perfect either, remember all the USAPL pro series meets that were scored on dots? Yeah neither does anyone cos no one cared lol.
Also regarding a "worse" lifter dropping down to a less contested class, that's only half of what Kjell did to win Sheffield... Keep an eye out for my next video cos this is exactly what I'll be discussing!
If Perkins go up to 83s his total will explode 🤯.
It's crazy that he's actually one of the lighter 74s out there but he's still so far ahead of everyone
Thanks for the video, I enjoyed it. The audio is terrible though.
Noted, will fix for future ones!
khazemsand the strongest? Are we not gonna mention Daniel Clements
Facts people just acting like Daniel Clements doesn’t have a total 1643 which is the closest to Kjell and he did it in 2023
True Daniel Clements did 745.5, super strong guy. But that was as a 67.5 in usapl, his most recent meet at 66 was 717.5, only 2.5 ahead of Kasemsand. He could get back to that peak strength at 66 but he hasn't done so yet...
@ your right but can’t forget he sandbag his deadlift coming off a injury still Kjell the favorite but can’t sleep on my man
Russ deadlift was not good. World records should always be 100% clean in my opinion. But if Emil got his 3rd russ should too…
That's the thing, Emil's 3rd deadlift passing made Russ' miss that much more controversial
good takes, not a hater but stop riding russ
Haha I'm guessing you're not the biggest fan of him...
@ i dont care neither hater or fan. But he admitted on the interview that it clearly was slipping and that he wouldnt give himself a white light either
@ white lights media interview
Yeah I did listen to that after making the video. Fair enough the man has high standards, but I'd still back the head ref who white lighted him lol
bro he can ride whoever he wants lol
I'm sorry, but 83 king is Joe Borenstein
Nah not right now but in the future for sure
He wasn't before Sheffield when he out-totalled Russ and he sure as hell isn't now that Russ reclaimed the biggest 83 total. Needs to do it head to head and/or hit that crazy 900 on the platform. Definitely only seems like a matter of time though
Russ is a clown with grip issues and too full of himself and he knows about his grip issues as you can see it in his training sessions,he is also acting cringe all time time like he is the best of the best , fact which was proven wrong now ! Kjell is basically a midget with a 5 cm ROM on all lifts and tbh there is nothing impressive about him, and Pana has zero progress for the last 3 years i don't even get it why he still competes.There are few powerlifters out there that do the sport justice because most of the rest are just finding ways to abuse the rules with stupid bench arches and 1 inch ROM deadlifts.
Wow a lot of interesting opinions here... First of all Russ is quite literally the best as the WR holder and greatest 83 lifter of all time. And even if he wasn't, god forbid the man has fun with his training lol. Saying there is nothing impressive about Kjell when he just totalled 770 @ 66 is crazy. And in the last 3 years Pana has won a world title and podiumed at another.
Get rid of sumo. Now
Sumo doesn't matter nearly as much as you think it does. Russ came first pulling conventional. Lya Bavoil and Pana both choose to pull conventional despite their opponents pulling sumo, I promise you if they were stronger with sumo they'd use it. Sumo argument is so outdated
@samscherer4100 Amen
Russ’s third deadlift was 100% good
Russ my favorite lifter and I think his left hand grip was going at the top. I think he knew it too thats why he didnt flex on the walkoff.
Nope. Cope more 😊
I talked to Emil earlier and he said that his hand was slipping
@@minifrostylin wouldn't that just be 1 sided downward motion therefore not redlightable? Or is it because it's interfering with the lockout
Russ got the down command before his left hand grip slipped that’s why the head judge white lighted him
Sumo is not lift
Cope, liftlet.
Ok go do 400kg sumo then
Haha I'm all for controversial takes but you're gonna have a hard time selling that one...
@@androthsatyr ? Its true, easier
@2_pelicans im not gay, i only do conventional