Billy Murray - If It Wasn't For The Irish And The Jews 1912
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
- Victor 17054 - Billy Murray - If It Wasn't For The Irish And The Jews 1912 - "If It Wasn't for the Irish and the Jews" is a song written in 1912. It was written by the Tin Pan Alley duo William Jerome and Jean Schwartz
It's a Pro Immigrant song.
William Thomas "Billy" Murray (May 25, 1877 -- August 17, 1954) was one of the most popular singers in the United States in the early decades of the 20th century. While he received star billing in Vaudeville, he was best known for his prolific work in the recording studio, making records for almost every record label of the era.
I love this from an Irish Catholic.
I think this actually very liberal, he’s talking about the importance of the Irish and the Jews. Like, my ancestors were largely German and came to be farmers, I wouldn’t be offended if he talked in 1912 about ‘where would get our food?’
But are you really Cary Grant?
Hey, Germans are fuckin' awesome farmers
@@jamesdenning1080 They are.
@@lisathuban8969 Lisa, Lisa, Lisa, so lovely to meet you my dear
@@archyleach Titters, blushes... runs away!
This sounds like something family guy would do if it were made in the 20s
Billy died 6 years before the United States had an Irish American president
@@Billy219 dont feel too bad, Im up here in heaven having lunch him now, great guy
@@billymurray705 we all knew Catholicism was right in the end. Cheers
.....and as of 2023, there still hasn't be a Jewish one
@@TTM9691There’s a been a Jewish VP tho. And many many cabinet members
@@WillyTheComposerOfficial There has never been a Jewish vice president, you blithering idiot. And cabinet? Who's talking about cabinet, you silly dipshit? Cabinet? LMFAO. Doesn't it smell with your head up your ass, Willy?
Thanks for posting this nicely transferred side, recorded on February 12, 1912.
Excellent positive topical references about immigrants.
I really adore this!!! 😍😍😍
Such a happy tone of voice and amusement!!! 🎶🎵🎶
As a musician and (beginning) composer, this gives good inspiration.
I love how Billy mentions his fellow Irish - American George M. Cohan. It really made me glad 😊
Oh, and about Dave Belasco (mentioned in the last minute of the song)....it's ironic hence my last name is Velasco!!! (Our letters are different in our last name 😂)
My grand father within 5 years of immigrating to the USA was a municipal Policeman in NJ, Yep he came from Ireland.
"you'd have no big department stores if it wasn't for the " HAHA
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@@siroswaldmosley4771 She's quoting the song, jackass. Maybe you should click on the videos you comment on, Sir Moron.
I him up and he was 100% Irish. Both his parents were immigrants.
He's us
"K and E" refers to Klaw and Erlanger, early 20th century Broadway and vaudeville impresarios.
Thanks I was curious about that
One of Hitler's pet theories was the possibility that the Irish were actually one of the lost tribes of Israel. Evidently their origin is not known.
Oh that Hitler. Just another one of his hairbrained ideas.
Have read that it was Al Smith who convinced Tammany Hall that they needed to reach out to other groups if they were to stay in power. The group selected was the Jews since they like the Irish had nowhere else to go - others could return home depending on the economy in Europe but these two groups had to stay. Have read stories of how this was accomplished and wondered if this song was part of the 'campaign'. Love it......
Al Smith was the first presidential candidate to actively seek the immigrant vote.
The Irish and the Jews have one of the best symbiotic relationships two different peoples can have. In England, the Jews fed the Irish during the dock strikes, and the Irish protected the Jews in turn from English fascists around WW2. When the Irish came to America, they were poor. The Jews that were here hired the Irish, didn’t discriminate against them, and gave many American Irish cultural staples that still are around today (corned beef and cabbage as an example), and the Irish helped protected the Jews fleeing Nazism once the Irish became police officers and were in positions of power. Jews were welcome with open arms in a lot of predominantly Irish/Catholic higher learning institutions. Two diasporic peoples protecting each other. Ireland is also one of the only European countries that never kicked out or discriminated against its Jewish community. Granted, it’s a very small community, but there is almost no record of discrimination against Jews in Ireland. As an Irish American I hope my Jewish brothers know we haven’t forgotten you or what you’ve done for us, at least I haven’t.
I didn't know that. Thank you for this info :)
My great-grandparents were Jewish.
@@belleepoque2544 Honestly, I wish stuff like this was taught more often. A lot of bigoted people might reconsider their worldview if they realized their ancestors humble beginnings in America and knew who were on there side. Lots of unspoken dynamic duos that nobody seems to know about or understand unfortunately. Also, fun fact. During prohibition, ceremonial/religious wine was exempt. A LOT or “Irish Rabbis” started popping up and the Jews would continue to sell them wine, which I personally find cool as hell. Win win and the Irish and Jews get drunk partying together.
@@ottovonpoptart5480 Haha, the"Irish Rabbis" part made my day. How did you find out about this?
I do agree with you that things like this ought to be taught more often, it seems so much more interesting than what I learnt about Prohibition in my year 11 class, last year. It was basically an entire term learning about Al Capone and bootlegging, which is great--but I think fails to truly open our eyes to the views, values and experiences of people from the era. Although we learned about African Americans later on, Jewish and Irish experiences went untaught, which is quite sad, because they too faced, and some continue to face, a lot of discrimination.
@@belleepoque2544 I’m into history, so some stuff I already know or looked up because I was curious about Irish history in America. I’m also Irish American, so some stuff just get passed down. Not many people realize that the potato famine only happened less than 200 years ago, so most current Irish America grandparents are only 1-2 generations removed from it. Grandparents telling stories of their parents or grandparents is still accessible to my generation, but that’s quickly becoming scarce unfortunately. Also, Irish in America are now considered a group that came here and “made it” so to speak. Plenty of CEO’s, Politicians, and even the current president are of Irish decent. We also have a disproportionate influence on America culture like Halloween, St. Patty’s day, terms like “Copper” for the police, Whisky’s influence on Bourbon (most people that settled in the Bourbon making areas of America were Scot-Irish) and music (if you add fife and tenner banjo to country/folk music it’s almost a carbon copy of traditional Irish music). Irish today, aren’t discriminated against as much as they used to be when they first came here. We may get the occasional “potato eater” joke, but that’s normally in jest or good fun, and we don’t take it seriously. Unfortunately the African Americans and the Jews still get treated badly in some parts of the country, but it’s significantly less than what the media would like you to believe. Our media tends to highlight the bad, while obfuscating the good. Not to take away from their struggles here, they definitely have them, and they are the only group of people to be here that didn’t choose to come here which is a tragedy, but I’m hopeful things are getting better, even if Fox or CNN would have to think otherwise. (I’m not a crazy anti-media guy I promise, our media just kind of sucks :/)
@@ottovonpoptart5480 Very cool!
Haha, make way for the tin-foil hat! Though seriously speaking, this seems to be the problem plaguing major news outlets all over the world. I wish they just did the reporting and left it to us to make up our own minds instead of using 'click-bait' titles and language that may mislead/obscure what actually happened (cough cough, the BBC and Guardian).
I just returned from Europe I’ve seen London and Paris
And I’m glad to get back home to Yankee land
In fact the little USA looks better now to me
It’s a real place that the real folks understand
But still I often sit and think what would this country be
If we hadn’t men like Rosenstein and Hughes
We’ve surely have a Kingdom there’d be no democracy
If it wasn’t for the Irish and the Jews
What would this great Yankee nation really really ever do
If it wasn’t for a Levy, a Monahan or Donohue
Where would we get our policemen
Why Uncle Sam would have the Blues
Without the Pats and Isadores
There’d be no big department stores
If it wasn’t for the Irish and the Jews
McDonald built the subway and his name will not forget
A word of praise is due to Nathan Strauss
For pasteurizing babies milk the world owes him a debt
He’s a friend to every kitty in the house
Without Big Jim Sullivan what would the Bowery do
The patrolmen they would need new pairs of shoes
There wouldn’t be an east side in the city of New York
If it weren’t for the Irish and the Jews
What would we do for amusement, there would be no place to go
If it wasn’t for the Shuberts, Frank McKee and Marcus Loewe
K and E and Billy Brady, Hammerstein I must include
I once heard Dave Belasco say you couldn’t stage a play today
If it wasn’t for the Irish and the Jews
Talk about a combination, heed my words and make a note
On St Patrick’s Day Rosinsky pins a shamrock on his coat
There’s a sympathetic feeling between the Blooms and McAdoos
Why Tammany would surely fall, there’d really be no Hall at all
If it wasn’t for the Irish and the Jews
Ty so much for the lyrics . God bless you and your family!!!
@@giovanniiorio2170 thank you! God bless you and yours also.
Thanks
Thanks Al Bowlly.
Interesting. I discovered the voice - and the existence of Billy Murray while researching for an anthology of classic railway songs for which I was writing arrangements. He also recorded the original version of "Casey Jones, the Brave Engineer,"
I saw his name in an Anton Petrov video about which habitable planets are able to see/hear earth, and what they would be hearing.
Enchanting and agreeable indeed.
Such a good-natured song, there really is a special connection between Jewish and Irish Americans.
LFMAO.
I'm both!
The Jews done us no favors and turned this country into Anti-White despotic Hellhole. Our cities our concrete jungles they displaced Whites with Negroes in our cities and later using other Non-Whites through their Hart Cellar Act both of whom are Irish & Jewish that bill opened our borders to the third world and swamped us with Non-Whites.
@@ChristianTheJewam yisrael chai
@@DivePlane13 Diaspora is great, baby! America is better off with our ancestors having come here.
Irish and jews have always been a winning combination
No. -Ye West
Yes, especially in the Chicago South Side of the early 20th Century
This is how people became friends.
He had me in the fist half I’m not going to lie
This song is a response to the jibe that America could never be a world power or really taken seriously as it was not a nation at all being a mere "charming collection of Jews and irish"
Still is and because of it, power and seriousness are declining.
My great grandmother's Maiden name is Donohue !
Haha first time hearing this, Great song
Amazing!
I took one look at the title and got scared it was gonna be a nativist song, but I was pleasantly surprised!
SAME
same here too
Tiny Tim should have played this song, it would have made headlines.
YES
The way he enunciates the lyrics and sounds reminds me of Yakko Warner
I wonder how many people got into this era of entertainment because of watching Animaniacs?
So let me get this straight. Billy Murray, the Michael Jackson of the teens, was supporting the Irish and the Jews. Right? I don't think this comes off as a racist or antisemitic song. In fact, Murray is an Irish name.
Billy Murray was the son of Irish immigrants
Sure and begorra, soch ah shandah!
oy gevult! mile buiochas!
Fantastic opportunity to enjoy quality ethnic humor. Long live political incorrectness, quote-unquote. Such a pity that extreme liberalism and conservativism have bastardized modern politics in the 21st century. It's because of people like that that I refuse to kowtow.
Thank you for this beautiful transfer.
At the same time, it is amazing this song, which might be considered "inclusive" and "politically correct" by "SJWs" was written 100 years ago.
Good job I died before all that caught on
The right political incorrectness, let's all punch up
Yeah man
Just because someone doesn't understand cultural hegemony or geopolitics, doesn't mean they cant express their opinion. Ones marginalization and oppression is fair game for your observations. No matter how impaired your awareness.
Geez! People are touchy!
Be nice to Tiny Time. He is cool!
God bless yankee land red white and blue
FAB!! Hiberno-Hebraics should rule the world!
Oy vey, pour me another guinness.
Knowledge 👆🏽
I was 12 yo 🥶
sus
Same bro 😈😈😈🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵
In 1912?
I can't imagine a 123 year old saying "yo"
Billy Murray is CANCELED
@@aileen9553 he's being sarcastic
I dont think I could care the slightest bit if I tried
He was Irish lol
He scarys me
Jews aren't all wealthy. Many are poor. The news hasn't helped the stereotype of the wealthy Jewish. Irish aren't all Catholics or Protestants. Many are believers of Celtic traditional culture
Irish, Italians and Jews - an unholy trinity, rightfully persecuted.
Can't tell if you're joking
@@GenericUsername1388I would hope he is, I can’t imagine anyone actually believing that in 2024…
@@ARBCOOL07 Antisemitism has been on the rise unfortunately. Don't know what the Irish or Italians did though
Hope you educate yourself soon, seems like you’re still living in the 1930s.
@@Wolfganger 1230s.
I gotta admit, from the title, I wasn't quite sure what I was in for....
(esp as an "Irish"... (the signs "Irish need not reply" to job ads are *real* - a family friend wrote a book about this part of history)) (- & from my mothers side, Edith, Esther, Enthna, we both think _maybe_ some Jewish heritage...) - and well, Nov 2022 - (Dave Chappelle, Kyrie Irving, And Kanye West) anti-semantic rhetoric sadly not yet part of history.
anyway, phew, Pro Immigrant song, yay. so like an early version of Immigrants (We Get the Job Done) a la Lin-Manuel's Hamilton
Billy would be "canceled" if he lived today. You can't talk about the Irish and the Jews today.
Bunk.
He was irish
I don't think people would care. The historical context for when this song was made isn't as relevant today.
Bad
Delete this
Delete yourself
Delete this? No way, it's history. This song isn't against Jews and the Irish- it talks about the contributions Jews and the Irish have done for society.
Good luck with that
He was Irish himself. The song is about contributions made by Irish and Jews at a time when people were openly discriminated against. Unless you're being sarcastic
yeah fr why would we want a song on yt about the positive impact of marginalized cultures in America