Talking Sense Into Anti-Israel Jews
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- Опубликовано: 28 окт 2024
- As we were tabling at San Francisco State University, we ran into 2 Jewish girls who were handing out anti-Israel flyers and approached them to have a respectful conversation.
Although a lot of what they said was just regurgitated information that has been force fed to them by today's growing wave of anti-Semitism, which preys on vulnerable Jews and forces them to turn their backs on their own people, we were able to have a genuinely productive conversation.
"Zionism" as a definition is the indigenous rights movement of the Jewish People to self-determine in the land of Israel, their native homeland.
"Zionism" put into practice is the most successful indigenous liberation movement that has ever existed where for the first time in history, a native people were successful in throwing out the colonial military forces (British) that were oppressing them and achieved their aspirations of reviving their civilization.
Too many of today's youth think that Zionism put into practice is the conflict and current status quo. Let me be clear. The word "Zionism" was created 100 years before the reestablishment of Israel. The ideas behind Zionism were born the second Judea/Israel was conquered by the Romans some 2,000 years ago.
The conflict and current status quo should never be blamed on Jewish independence, strength, or self-determination. The conflict and status quo is a direct result and the consequence of 3 failed genocidal attempts from the surrounding Arab countries to ethnically cleanse the Jews out of their land.
The conflict and status quo is a direct result and the consequence of too many failed Arab policies by leaders like Amin al-Husseini, Yasser Arafat, Mahmoud Abbas, Ismail Haniyeh and Khaled Mashal who have used their positions as dictators and done everything in their power to produce Palestinian suffering in order to manufacture a conflict that has resulted in the deaths of thousands, for the sole purpose of receiving billions of dollars in aid and getting their personal pockets filled.
For these so-called "leaders", it is functional to keep Palestinians suffering because it allows their scam to continue and their pockets to run heavy.
Israel is more powerful than the Palestinians, which gives it an even greater responsibility to change the conflict and status quo, but the consequences of the wars and policies of these Arab leaders do not get to be blamed on Jewish self-determination just because they failed to destroy Israel and driving the Jews into the sea.
If you go "all in" and you lose, you don't get to blame the person who “called” for your loss.
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The only thing stronger than Rudy's arguments, is his deadly fashion sensibilities.
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Very true..
He gave up his French Citizenship to be Israeli BUT GOSHDARN, DUDE LOOK AT HIS DRIP every French people has some weird ass fire drip.
Rudy is ignorant asf... the girl told him she was russian... she spoke the truth... Rudy is living a lie because he was raised on a lie. the real people of that land are the "african americans" you cant hide from the truth
I'm also Jewish and my parents are from Russia. My grandparents told stories of getting bullied as kids for being ethnically distinct because their dark complexion and features were very clearly NOT Russian. My dad's DNA results came back as 99.8% Jewish, not Slavic. This girl doesn't know what she's talking about if she thinks her family were likely Russian converts (the chance exists but it's highly unlikely as Jews were a prosecuted minority in Europe).
And another point is that Jews from Poland and Russia speak Yiddish wich is a Germanic language and not a slavic.
99.8%. A lot of incest if that's true. Nearly nobody on this world is from one heritage. Alone the mongolians spreaded their DNA across the world.
I think you would disagree with the arier Germans. You would also disagree with China saying Tibet is China. Still you are blind to what the United Nations (the West) did to the palestinians in the Middle East. That's called being a hypocrite.
Jewish are from west Asia middle est it dont mather it dont mather all my family come from Ukraine lithuana Poland and that dont make them more European or est central European event if they speak yiddish it still don't make us any more German or Russian
Does her skin look anything like his ?
All she knows about is carbohydrates
Ask that first girl how accepting of Jews they are in Russia. She doesn't know her history at all. Regarding Israel being an Apartheid State, ask her if Arabs are allowed to vote, go into business or any profession and live in Israel and whether Jews are allowed to even live on Palestinian controlled areas.
Well said, sir. The first girl alluded to her Russian family having "probably" converted to Judaism. She offered no evidence for this assertion and it is far more likely that her family have been Jews in the Diaspora since the beginnings of the Diaspora.
if Palestinians are citizens of Israel and have an Israeli passport (and there are 2,000,000 of them), then yes, they vote, have representation in the Knesset, create businesses and work in their professions. Do not confuse Israel with Lebanon and Syria.
It's almost as being a yt person in the US you suddenly loose all your common sense of history, ancestry, culture and logic
There is not 1 anti Islam Muslim on the whole planet.
There are only Ex muslims,and its growing.
Jews in russia where heavily persecuted i don't think her ancestors converted. They must be crying on their graves to see their descendants hating on their memory. Shame
But she looks like 100% Russian.🤗 Jews resemble to Arabs. I mean to Semitic group. But she is 100% slavic.
@@farrukh8827 you have no idea what being jewish is. Lol google it
@@ormand.943It says Jews are ethnical
group from Semitic family.
@@farrukh8827 wrong
@@ormand.943 Who are Jews?
I’m Jewish and I think a lot of Jews in the United States are disconnected and don’t know a lot about Judaism.
Bc of assimilation and leftist propaganda. :( and btw I am Jewish and liberal but most of the left has inadvertantly become extremely anti-Jewish
gracie yael I left the Democratic Party because they are so anti-israel. I think it is crazy that people believe that one side are the pacifist and one side are the aggressors.
Know NOTHING.
@Panjabi Pandit As a general rule of thumb if you don’t know anything about a conflict don’t say anything
gracie yael I am a Conservative Jew (both political and Religious type of Conservative)
I am watching all of your videos and I amazed every time how you present the argument without trying to "crush" or "destory" the other side. Instead, you actually making them listen by showing them that you are not against them and supporting isreal is not against supporting Palastinians. Kudos! keep them coming! this channel needs to blow up! (in a positive way)
He actually doesn't let them answer for real and interrupts them with an endless monolog that's utter bullshit with so much wrong information that you would have to write all of that down simultaneously to not get confused
RUDY IS hired by Isreal Government to sell ZIONISM through public relations, communication, and advocacy. ZIONIST is racist, GENOCIDAL, apartheid, and EVIL.
There are people living in Gaza saying exactly what he's saying, but they're silence by Hamas - beaten and tortured and jailed, or killed to help intimidate. People in Gaza are saying all of these people worldwide hating Israel are hurting the people in Gaza especially for the exact reasons he explained here. I'm glad he pointed out the double standard also about lack of concern for all.
That's all kumbaya bullshit. Over 80% of Gazans support Hamas and the destruction of Israel. We need to stop pretending that Gazans have our values. They do not.
Still applies 2+ years later
"In her opinion, her parents converted."
I don't think she just hates the Land of Israel, she actually also hates Judaism itself.
Fortunately, there aren't many of them.
She hadn’t heard of Deir Yassin at all 😂😂😂😂
She really doesn’t know anything about the conflict and is brainwashed.
Omry Goldwasser I’m Jewish I believe a lot of Americans Jews are disconnected.
Omry Goldwasser We live in a sound bite era were only pieces are given not the full story.
@Omry G Hahaha thats hilarious. People think you control the media and yall think Muslims control the media. I love how much hate there is, it's frankly so funny.
She doesn't have to know every specific detail about the Palestinian Israeli conflict
Rudy for Israeli prime minister. We need you in power
@@gurnoorsingh93 wait your turn, David.
Everything rudy says is on point but he’s missing the main point which is hashem have ya eretz Yisroel and the Arabs shouldn’t even have one inch of it we can never live with them together
Ely Boyd I understand where you’re coming from but at the end of the day the Jewish ppls only real claim is bc Gd gave it to us thousands of years ago that how we were there in the first place if you don’t like that it doesn’t matter bc the torah is the ultimate truth and that is why rn most ppl can’t see what I’m saying bc were in exile but when moshiach comes it’ll be revealed
Ely Boyd actually no bc in the torah Gd says it’s for the whole world
Ely Boyd Islam came thousands of years after we were given and settled in the land the Quran is literally based off the torah with some details changed to fit their narrative it’s pure bogus and they know it
From an Israeli living in Israel I feel 99% of Israelis feel exactly what he said just he put it in words much better. Our voices aren't heard and the media puts us as racist genocidal warriors which is completely not the case. I have nothing against palestinians but we consider this our homeland as well and many of us really do have no place to go. It feels like the whole world is against our existence be in antisemitism or condemning the biased media on what we do but all we want is a safe place where we can live peacefully in our homeland without having to watch our backs that someone will come and stab or attack us in any way just because we're jews. I don't want anything bad to happen to the palestinians but the terrorist attacks and conflict has pushed our government and army to do things it really doesn't want to do.
Tibbs....man, we could talk about this for hours. Look, I have no dog in this fight. I agree w/you....Mizrahim Jews or Arab Jews are native to the land. But, many tribes of these Fellahin Jews CONVERTED to Islam back in the VII century....for a variety of motives. These converted are PRESENT DAY PALESTINIANS.
In other words, Ashkenazic East European converted Jews are waging a ruthless and disproportionate war of occupation against a population of FORMER, native Mizrahim Jews, today known as Palestinians...in their land. Is that hard to understand?
@@tiberio1352 What is your source of information?
What you claim as fact is in fact false.
@@tiberio1352 Mizrahi Jews aren't and weren't ever Palestinian..
tiberio135 Ashkenazi Jews are also descended from Judea, they just look white because of intermixing.
Matan Stern YES!!! Thank you Matan. I don’t know why people think that because the askenazim have white skins that means they can’t be descendants from judeans
I'm a moroccan muslim who lives in Belgium and i totally agree with Rudy. May God bless us all and may we find a way to live together in peace.
Love to all my cousins aka jews aka israelis ❤
Hey! I'm a Russian jew, living in Belgium! I've been going through such a tough time here in Brussels:( Your comment really warmed-melted my heart, thank you so so so much
Half moroccan jew here, salam aleikum sister🫶🏼
Do you need a Jewish
C ****ck up your spicy Moroccan V ?? That can be easily arranged
Oh yeah blame the British how pathetic is Rudy becoming
You can actually see her trying to remember the script in her head
IQ sub 90. Definitely a convert
I have come to the conclusion that if this conflict is ever to end, there needs to be alot more people on BOTH sides like Rudy
@@her7304 no its not lol.
He's a Zionist . He believes that if your people were living in a land 2000 years ago that means you have claims to that land ..
It is all lyes from the Israeli narrative, here is a documentary that is produced by American journalist Abby Martin tells you the true story of the situation in Gaza.
ruclips.net/video/HnZSaKYmP2s/видео.html
@@alialkhudhuri6668 people like you are the problem lol. People who claim all is wrong, mate guess what, you're both in the wrong.
Aye, there's the rub! HOW are we going to find/make more like him??
The lady should take a DNA test. If her family were convereted it won'r show her religion in her DNA but if her family were Jewish before that than she would see in her DNA test the word JEWISH. We are an ethnoreligious group
No
@@CeeBarrio1 Please elaborate
@@austin19021 why? You're a wizard you'll just do the wizard thing.
@@CeeBarrio1 Lmao what a weak excuse to not back up your bummy comment
@@austin19021 are you Jewish?
Israel is our land 3500 years, wtf she talking about🤣
IDIOT
@@boxingmonthly you
she's a braindead troll
So sad to see our own people being brainwashed.
She's not really "your" people. She admitted she was a convert, so ethnically she's not your people, and spiritually/intellectually/emotionally she's your enemy anyway.
6:45 "if that's your stance and I have not seen that from y'all..." um, yeah, just cause YOU'VE never heard it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. And he just explained your own history to you, you should be grateful.
"Then you should show up..." he went to your campus and is standing right in front of you. Do YOU show up?
Us Jews really need to decolonize our minds.
Thanks, Rudy.
Dewesternize is a better term
What's even funnier is that he is the only one actually doing the work since he works with Palestinian activists
Rudy, you're intelligence is razor sharp and your debate skills are excellent. I may be wrong but some of what you say hints at a One State solution. I don't see any long-term solution other than a Two State solution, and even that won't happen in our lifetime. That said, you're awesome and represent us amazingly well.
I think Rudy believes in political separation but not physical separation if that makes sense. So freedom of movement anywhere... but two federal systems.
But if we were to have two separate entities, we'd be implying that Jews and Arabs can't coexist in the same nation.
@@schnitzelberry Jews and Arabs do live together in one nation:Israel. There are almost 2 million arabs
@@yaran2651
Exactly, and it should stay that way.
People in the West really underestimate the fact that there are so many Jews that live peacefully with Arabs and even Palestinians! But so many people in the West just keep painting this false narrative that we are constantly oppressing non Jews. This needs to stop. A Two State "Solution" does neither for either.
@@schnitzelberry fully binational state is a fantasy. It doesn't allow self determination for anyone. Both people need a state of their own or one will always rule over another!
Rudy, just HOW do you keep your cool with these people, how? I am an American-Israeli and lived in San Francsico for 25 years! I know these misinformed SFSU types only too too well. The historical facts that they don't know and the rhetoric they they just come up with on the spot make them agonizing to deal with. You are amazingly articulate - probably too articulate for many of these so clled activists. Keep your eyes wide open there. SF is no friend to Zionists. Just one of a few reasons why don't I live there anymore!
God - tier explanation.
@Axton Riley dang you hack her every dang night what the fuck bro
G-d*
Proud Filipino who is the only Asian country that voted for Israel statehood. New sub here.
List of Asian country that laugh because of your dumb comment and you thought only Philippines voted for Israel.
Burma, Cambodia, China, East Timor, Georgia, Hong Kong, India, Japan, Laos, Lebanon, Mongolia, Nepal, Papua New Guinea, Singapore, South Korea, Sri Lanka, Taiwan, Tajikistan, Thailand, Turkey, Vietnam
Those subtitles are pretty difficult to read, please consider changing that font/color in future videos.
I love what you are doing! Your explanations are the best !
Ok I will
You're a smart man, and I, having nothing to do with Judaism or Israel, learnt a lot from your RUclips and Instagram. Peace be to the world.
Same here. He's very rational
hes smart. and when i watched his first video ,i felt like its a good channel. but after a few more of his videos, i cant live with the fact that he cuts off the video in important situations. u always hear his point of view, but hes only 1 zionist. what do the other zionists think? and thats what she was reffering to but was cut short. u can actually see completely new positions of the feet. its not bad to have an agenda, but uncut would be appreciated.
You only learned lies go
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Worthless eater
כל פעם שאני שומע אותך אתה מרכך עמדה ולמעשה תומך במדינה אחת לשני עמים ואח יקר זה לא ילך.
בלי קשר אתה שפיץ.
ברור שלא ילך כי ההלכה אומרת ש'עשיו שונא ליעקב' ולא משנה כמה שלום יהיה וכמה עמים יעשו איתנו שלום תמיד יהיה עם כזה או אחר שלא יקבל אותנו ולא יעשה איתנו שלום
@@Elisheva_true brother
Your patience and knowledge is amazing, and I learn so much more every time I watch your videos. Having this conversation with fellow Jews is always hard and I am inspired every time I hear you speak. As someone from a family who was torn apart during the Spanish persecution of Jews it’s so hard. Thank you Rudy.
It is all lyes from the Israeli narrative, here is a documentary that is produced by American journalist Abby Martin tells you the true story of the situation in Gaza.
ruclips.net/video/HnZSaKYmP2s/видео.html
"My family is from Russia...they were probably converted to Judaism." Where did this idea come from?
Almost like she is ashamed of them. Well my relatives converted to the Anglican faith to protect themselves from anti Jew pograms. Hid they were Jewish and no one can tell me Jews have not been historically oppressed..Delia Morris
The Roman general Pompey conquered Syria and the Land of Israel in 63 BCE. Some of the Jews revolted against him, he was a people who invaded the land of Israel even before the people of Israel left Egypt. The name of this people was "Philistines." It was also written in the Bible. They conquered the Land of Israel. This is the name that the Romans called the Land of Israel, in order to humiliate the people of Israel. They also called Jerusalem "Aelia Capitolina" and also the city "Shchem" mentioned in the Bible, called Neapolis. There is no Palestinian nation, there has never been a nation like this, you ask who was the prime minister of Palestine? You will not find out who its ministers were, what currency is there? Graves, coffins, and more ... There is nothing and nothing that belongs to a people called Palestine. This is the reality, and whoever thinks differently must prove it. The Arabs / Muslims conquered the whole area. And after 2000 years, as promised in the Bible, he returned to his land from all over the world. Anyone who has preserved his Judaism for 2000 years has come to this land. There are Jews from Germany, Jews Jews from Egypt, Yemen, Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria, France, Sweden, etc. This is a great miracle, and whoever does not understand then I am sorry for him ... especially if he is a Muslim because the Koran says that this land belongs to a people The Book.
Pro Palestinians always start with the statement that the Jews stole Palestine from the Arabs as if Arabs didn't STEAL the whole Arabian peninsula, Northern Africa and parts of Europe and Asia...
@@ryderwilson7955 Let me tell you some important things I learned from ancient Jewish writings. The word ARAB in Hebrew is an evening. As the evening is black, so in the same place that Arabs are, it is named after the black liquid, which is the oil. Esau took Ishmael's daughter, and they are one family. And Esau received a blessing from Isaac that in his land would be a lot of oil.
In fact, all the Arabs came from one place called Arabia. Muhammad and Islam have conquered all countries like: Egypt Yemen Libya Morocco Algeria Tunisia Jordan Syria Lebanon Iraq and more ... . In all of North Africa the barbarians are the original inhabitants. We Jews have the Bible that all three religions believe is original, the Bible is the basis of the New Testament and the Koran. Everyone acknowledges this.
@seanzscorpio
So how did we all get back together in 48? from all over the world ? Who did that ? You want to read what is written in the Bible, if I show you that God promises the people of Israel that he will gather them all and they will immigrate to the land at the same time, what will you say? And if I prove to you that it is written that only after the land becomes a desert that does not grow anything (and so there were only diseases and every Jew who came here returned to his land) and after the people of Israel return then everything will bloom, and the land will produce fine fruits, what do you say?
All the promises that God has promised to the people of Israel are written in the Bible, just have to look into your eyes. The fact that we are all here after 2000 years as one people is a miracle.
All over the world came with exactly the same Torah scroll, with the same number of letters within the Torah scroll. Yes .... a Jew from Germany, and from Poland brought a Torah scroll just like those who came from Yemen, and from Morocco. We have tefillin, and mezuzah, which reads verses from the Torah in it, you also came from all over the world with the same form and the same scripture and the same verses and the same number of letters, do you understand what I am talking about ?!
You bring me things you were taught and you get it out of your mouth, it's not a smart thing, you have to check yourself, open your eyes and learn.
I wrote this out of respect for you.
@@user-zg3nb1mk5b26 stop with the stupid philosophy, it's philosophy, not more than that. Evening in Hebrew is EREV, huge difference. so stop with the bullshitting.
@@ryderwilson7955 Do you know Hebrew better than I do? I teach Hebrew at a high level.
If you get upset, then it is probably true, and if it is not true, will you tell me what the word ARAB means?
Just know that there is someone who lived 2000 years ago called Rabbi Shimon Bar Yochai
And he wrote it, and you know that many Jews, Arabs, Druze, Circassians, and Christians from all over the world come to his grave, pray and pray for health and more and prayers are received, so you are not allowed to respect him, I do respect, because he wrote a lot 2000 years ago Things that science is only now discovering. DA is one of the books called Kabbalah books, many non-Jewish people study his books.
According to our religion, no Jew is allowed to study Torah or Kabbalah because we received the Torah as a gift and do not give it to anyone else, but you know that many people study Kabbalah and are not Jews, such as Madonna and many other Hollywood stars. Those (non-Jews) who study these books, claim that the books give a spiritual tool how to live right, Jews are allowed to study these books only after the age of 40 and only after studying all the other Jewish books.
The problem is she didn’t even seem to know that Jews are NATIVE to this land. I don’t think she’s ever even heard of Judea 🤦♀️🤦♀️
She and most of the Anti-Israel people have no clue at all about Israel and it’s history as well as current state.
Keep doing what you’re doing we really need more people like you not being afraid of speaking up for Israel and “even” Zionism. And especially people who also argue about how Jews actually originate from where Israel is today and not only base their arguments on religious beliefs which I think is not very helpful to do in that kind of debate.
My reply to RR aplies to you.
Rudy, I like your style, very sensate and non confrontational. Kudos.
But, man....You have to understand and accept that, yes, Jews lived in Palestine, but most of them CONVERTED to Islam back in the VII century....for a variety of reasons. And they are PRESENT DAY PALESTINIANS.
They have more DNA connection to ancient Jews....than Ashkenazic East European Jews.
You seem to be a smart, sensible guy. Absolutely, Jews have a right to live IN PEACE....somewhere. But, you chose to occupy VIOLENTLY and RUTHLESSLY a land already populated by FORMER MIZRAHIM JEWS = ARAB JEWS ( Palestinians). And you made the Palestinians.....your enemy. That is NOT right.
Israel was settled by Bolsheviks Jews and financed by the Rothschilds there's nothing holy about the modern settlements of Ashkenazi Jews in Palestine
Even if that'd be true, then I'll suppose you agree that all non native Americans should leave America? These mutts are not "American" and it is not their homeland. Give America back to the native Americans. If you actually mean what you said you will agree to this. If you live in America and are not native-American do something good: Go home.
Tell us: Do you live in the USA and genuinely argue that peoples homelands shouldn't be taken away from the actual native people? LOL
@@Frobbl that's a simple-minded argument that's like saying just because you and your wife for the first at a football stadium you own the whole stadium.
Verbunden LOL you obviously haven’t read what I wrote or you’re just using my comment to make a point that has nothing to do with what I said. I never said expel the Palestinians. I’m saying let the Jews keep their right to stay there and return which I would make a point for for the native Americans too. Doesn’t mean that the non-native Americans or the Palestinians have to leave the place they currently live in 🤦♀️
These kind of people never know anything about the facts behind this conflict , if you name any important figure in israeli history who stood for the betterment of all the people then you can be sure they havent heard about them.
It's ironic that none of these people are for giving the US territories back to the native tribes.
Please explain how that would be at all possible
It's a matter of principles. US Palestine activists shriek about political violence in Jerusalem that began ~90 yrs ago, but they are completely silent about the wholesale slaughter of the native North American people and theft of their land that began ~500 years ago. By their own blind hypocritical logic, if Israel annihilated Palestine and 410 years went by, it would no longer be an atrocity.
One can't get an ought from an is, nor have any objective knowledge of the limits of the possible. If a political programme has no TELOS beyond power, if it is only concerned with what is possible and fails to analyze the possible under the aegis of the just, then not only is it corrupted by ignorance, it is, in all likelihood, actively working against the common good of humanity. If one cares about justice, one cares about justice for all human beings. If one doesn't care about justice for all human beings, and one talks about justice, one is a phony. I see so much bad faith in the pro-Palestine activists.
@@lukehall8151 Whilst I said it would be impossible for the US to give Native Americans back the US. This is about a modern day civil and human rights issue and not one of the past, as is the native American case. So putting them on the same current level is very wrong.
@@beanheinz2011 "The past is never dead. It's not even past."
What do you think, my dear man, when was the origin of the Israel/Palestine conflict? What was the origin of it? At what year exactly are you going to draw the line between relevant and irrelevant?
Modern day! The past! By the time you put the y in modern day, the time you wrote the m was in the past. The past! Yesterday was the past! And as modern as tomorrow afternoon.
This woman thinks that the history of the Middle East started in 1948. Unbelievable.
This girl has no idea what she's talking about. She doesn't understand what it was like for Jews in Russia. There's no way he parents been converted...
I would say your biggest barrier is the intersectionality thing and the oppressor/oppressed narrative that students seem to be getting taught. The mindset basically has no nuance and is designed to divide people along some totally nonsensical lines.
People who use their reason and study history without a pre-defined view passed on to them will say that there are good Israelis and bad Israelis and there are good Palestinians and bad Palestinians and that context matters. However the intersectionality paradigm is a strange view of the world which claims that anyone with all the power is by default evil and needs to be destroyed. It also claims that anyone with very little power is automatically the victim so anything they do is an act of resistance. They don't care that the reason there are security barriers is between Israel and the Palestinian areas is because of suicide bombing attacks or that the reason the IDF is in Gaza is to get Hamas who committed the worst atrocity against the Jews since the Shoah, they just say the wall is an apartheid symbol and that the IDF are committing genocide.
Looks like you are not getting all that far in the minds of these gaslit kids but it's like Jenga. If you pull out one block the whole tower collapses. So hopefully you sewed a seed. I admire your patience achi. I would have struggled to not get very annoyed.
Anyway, another great video.
In my humble opinion these videos will make more impact on regular people watching them who aren't ideologically possessed but just don't know enough yet to support the cause of peace. You have certainly made me think about how I should approach my conversations over the years.
This makes a lot of sense, and I appreciate the healthy discussion, however your definition of zionism is completely different than what the majority of “pro Palestinians” have understood zionism to be for years and years. From my eyes as a Palestinian, zionism is essentially colonization. Jews and Palestinians have lived together peacefully as neighbors long before the holocaust, it was when Zionists started wanting the land to call their own that is the root of the problem for me. So yeah I do consider myself anti zionism, but to say I’m anti semitic is a stretch being that I love and advocate for my Jewish brothers and sisters and believe they have a right to live just as I do.
This isn’t important but it’s not really colonization if they aren’t making a colony. It’s more like emigration as there’s no “mother country” for example the Falkland Islands are a British colony, but only because they have Britain as a mother country. That’s what I think, not that it changes much anyway.
@@cjnotram1977 yah you can convince the 5.5 million Palestinians refugees around the world this PS.
They were literally dispossessed from their homes with military forces in 1948, go and read the history plz
@@cjnotram1977 here is a documentary that is produced by American journalist Abby Martin tells you the true story of the situation in Gaza.
ruclips.net/video/HnZSaKYmP2s/видео.html
@@alialkhudhuri6668 dude I’m not trying to justify it. Please read what I said it’s still just as wrong, but it isn’t colonization. I’m not saying it’s ok, just pointing something out. I understand your anger but please look at what I wrote.
@@alialkhudhuri6668 He said that this isn't colonization by definition.
Also, here's a debunk of that documentary www.reddit.com/r/IsraelPalestine/comments/9aszwe/fact_check_abby_martin_vs_the_truth/
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What was she about to say after "I don't think that was the only choice" in 03:59? It was edited out and I am really curious to check her opinion. Also, the video title is not working in your favour. Other than that, great work and keep it up if you are still working on these kind of stuff.
You need to be the new Israeli president.
That was one of the most sensible conversations I've seen so far. Thank you Rudi.
It is all lyes from the zionist narrative, if you’re interested knowing what’s the real situation in Palestine here is a documentary that is produced by American journalist Abby Martin tells you the true story of the situation in Gaza.
ruclips.net/video/HnZSaKYmP2s/видео.html
"Sensible conversation". There was a conversation but all the sense was coming from one side.
@@happydillpickle Shalom. Oops! You have misunderstood my comment which foccused on my reaction to the lady (unknown name) and the gentleman (Rudi) both of whom engaged in a "one-sided" conversation, one based on a "sensible" input to the debate, the other observed to be on my part the very opposite of "sensible". It should be obvious which one I intended. The threat of Hamas, Hezbollah and its proxy Iran, etc., are not part of THIS exchange of comments and only serve to conflate one matter with the other.
אנחנו צריכים אותך בכנסת חבר
בכנסת יש רק נוכלים אנסים וגנבים חבר
@@PhysicsViolator לכן צריך אנשים שהם לא אנסים ונוכלים
@@shimonmizrahi6356 כן. אבל אם האנשים סומכים עם פוליטיקאים, אנחנו אבדי.
Watch your video during COVID-19 outbreak. In the end of the video, I saw many people use face mask on the background, is it a kind of time travel, since the video was upload in 2019. Just curious about it. 8:10
DONNY TRIHANONDO there were fires in San Francisco at that time
@@RudyRochman We are all awaiting end-time prophecies to be fulfilled. In Islamic eschatology, more than 2000 years ago, the Jews had rejected Jesus as the Messiah. Until now, the Jews regarded Jesus as a false messiah, because according to their assumption Jesus had been killed, and during his life had not fulfilling prophecies such as restoring Israel, rebuilding the shrine of Solomon, returning the children of Israel to the Holy Land, becoming king, and so on. After Jesus rejection - who was Israelite descendant - as the Messiah, God no longer sent another prophet to the Children of Israel. Until Prophet Muhammad - who was ishmaelite descendant - was sent, which justifies Jesus as the real Messiah. And, Jesus will come down again at the end of time, become a just judge, just ruler. Then, who is the Messiah awaited by the Jews?
@@donnytrihanondo8998 The False Messiah I guess. Christian Eschatology calls him Anti Christ Islamic Eschatology calls him Ad Dajjal. Now everything’s just a Matter of Time. Assalamualikum:)
strong jewish russian girl.
She doesn’t know anything
Bloody girl looked silly. She likes the conflict.
It's because of all the sugar in her body very unhealthy it affects the brain and causes major depression.
this was a monologue rather than a dialogue, why did you cut her part out, and choose elements to add, i want to hear full version of her arguments to get an image, this was edit on your behalf
Because she kept bringing sentences with the context of not wanting to understand the other side of this story or believing the other side is completely evil.
Rudi cut her so she can be intrigued to move to "why did you guys do it anyway?" part, or trying to understand the non-palestinian side of the story.
My question for them is what sort of time frame do they think Palestinian people have to take back Israel? It's already been roughly 70 years so what would they consider to be the cap? It took 2000 years before Israelis got their land back and they are hated for doing exactly what they are wishing for Palestinians. If the Palestinians reclaimed the land in 2000 years would the same people treat them with the same haste? Doubtful.
@Safwan so, 2000 years is the time frame? It was a question based on the history of the land ownership.
@Safwan whatever narrative fits your hate for the Jews.
You cannot reclaim land after 2000 years based only on your religion ...
@@brutuslugo3969It's culture that's incorporated into religion, think of like the ancient state religions. Their religion IS there history, and also their culture.
@7:13 - wow Best quote that sums up the whole hypocrisy in this conflict ... so many who scream about palestinians ... but "don't speak about palestinian suffering when it's in Syria, Lebanon, Jordan... they only talk about when it has to with israel" !
"My ancestors just converted" she is probably Ashkenazi which is an actual ethnicity that could be genetically traced and she is just in denial of her ancestral origins.
I highly doubt her family converted. Jews in Russia were persecuted. That is like saying my family converted to Judaism in nazi Germany. Doesn’t make any sense.
So we gonna ignore the fact that she clearly Caucasian ...
😂😂😂 yas like a Chinese jews of course jajjaj
@@whatkarmasays8663 yeah, there are cchinese jews. They are descendants of Persian Jews andChinese converts. They are called the Kaifeng Jews.
@@anthonyjat1964 yes are jews converted lol for this reason i hate jews zionist.
You just witnessed the difference between someone living the experience vs someone that is brainwashed into believing they have experience. They are not the same.
As someone whose parents escaped the Soviet Union to the US, I am speechless. G-d bless you Rudy for staying so calm!
Rudy thank you so very much for making this video. This is so very very important to combat these people who would rather risk losing our entire Nation of Israel B'Aretz and in the Diaspoa than seek to learn more. May G-d continue to Bless you in your work.
I love your headpiece , are you sephardic? Mizrahi?
Rudy she was having a conversation with you, I felt like you didn’t want to hear what she had to say. Obviously it hurts you to your core because you may feel like she is attacking your identity but she was super civil about it and just felt like she had her stance on it but claiming there isn’t a space for you to talk isn’t true. She spoke with you and was more than willing to hear what you have to say.
Actually he heard her and answered her very nice. She was the one who didn't listen.
@@mia_bell no, they both listened to each other just neither of them agreed. So to say one is better then the other is far fetched. He also went on and on at the end how he felt, not giving this lady the chance to rebuttals that. This is a RUclips channel and his main goal is to get views, send his message out there at whatever costs. If you agree with Rudy cool, but just know being critical of how someone “debates” is also okay too.
@Marilyn Monroe I don’t understand why you are upset at her statement. Also what you’re saying doesn’t make sense to their discussion. If she is from Russia and should go back to Russia, Rudy who is from. Morocco should then go back to Morocco. However mot entirely sure just making guesses here, I think he is from the US.
@Marilyn Monroe Palestinians too have Jewish blood in them, but somehow they are inferior to being in the region. The whole point of my original statement is that Rudy is unfair to paint this women as not listening to him and being defiant to his statement. Which isn’t true. Have you seen Rudy attempt to actually debate? He just wants to make the same statement over and over again and at some point it doesn’t make sense. Go watch Noam Chomsky vs Rudy on the great debate. He is an influencer mot an intellectual. I know he means well, but I don’t think what he speaks is for the greater good rather then for his own good.
@Marilyn Monroe yes and if you have someone feeding you how to think and feel it can be taken as your own thoughts vs. analyzing what exactly is going on. From a media standpoint when I watch this, especially towards the end (where he has to explain to you what actually happened) I find that to be disingenuous and also question his line of work. We can go on all day about this - I just don’t like how he intentionally discredits this women and makes it seem as something it’s not.
But how many Israel we will get now, this idea of coming back to the homeland and what’s going to happens if people decided to go back where they belong and what about the poor who stayed their!!! And who is Britain to give you the right to destroy another nation! Where is the logic
That woman should really go take a history course or something...
Deir Yassin massacre is just a big bluff. He never mentioned the Palestinians terrorist attacks and their toxic anti-jewish hatred.
Great Job Rudy, you are getting really good at this, I wish I had your patience and clarity.
Thailand heats up the brain :p
Just tell them that jews can not be able to live in another country because of all the anti-Zionist but Gaza can be in 70 countries because they are not Jewish. And after the holocaust, we are wanted to go to Israel for protection from the world
That girl was full of Hate. Look at her face..
I am looking, I don't see a face..
Daniel Filippus Oh
@@dealerovski82 need glasses ?
@@farahgazzah2366 Now you're just rubbing it in her face. Even I didn't mean to insult her that much.
Before 1914 it was called Palestine and had been since the 5th century 🙌🏻
I don't really agree with you on all points. However, i have to say that you are a really nice person who knows how to talk! Love to you bro! ♥️
It is all lyes from the Israeli narrative, here is a documentary that is produced by American journalist Abby Martin tells you the true story of the situation in Gaza.
ruclips.net/video/HnZSaKYmP2s/видео.html
Cameraperson! Calm the heck down! I'm getting dizzy😵💫
I believe she's just the consequence of an extremely poor - self image and low self esteem, leading to self - resentment.
Probably but thats not a fault and I can identity a bit to her as well for many reasons. what we need is dialog and a new generation willing to live together despite the stigmates of the past and our religious and racial differences.
Great videos Rudy. I got a question: What is your response to the religious objections to Zionism like those from Satmar who cite Kesubos 111a.
There was a lot of editing in that first clip. Just saying. Nevertheless good luck and keep up the good work with your content and efforts. Much love from Athens Greece 😉
Dude you have drawn me in as I've always considered myself anti Zionist!! Your ability to debate and your values are beautiful as long as they're genuine! I'm not worthy! Ima simple hillbilly n murica. I love God/Allah. My Muslim friends say I'm Muslim n just don't know it. Raised Christian I see the similarities and miracles of both books. I love this movie and yall. Waiting for the 2nd Israeli messiah as the Donald is supposedly messiah Ben Joseph!?!?! All that leaves is messiah Ben David rihjt!?!? I love y'all friend
Thanks for your support Mark! Believe me, when any true messiah figure shows up, we will ALL know it! The Donald is just a guy doing his thing, and that is good enough!
Rudy for PM of Israel 🇵🇸❤️🇮🇱
Why did your camera operator point at the shoes and away from the faces?
Words of wisdom, god bless you 😊
Who Are You Words of deceit. First off, Jew is by belief not flesh and blood. This is easily proven by Jacob and Esau. They were twins, so how could Jacob BECOME ISRAEL? By faith. By promise. 2ndly, the Israel of God isn’t of this world, which is why the Israel of God, was supposed to bring the LIGHT OF THE GOSPEL to all nations and convert people to Jews spiritually! The idea of a Jew being by “flesh” is actually a false Catholic teaching which makes the flesh of Jesus God. God is a Spirit, not flesh. The whole claim to the “land” was it was promised to the patriarchs by Faith. Faith is the substance of things hoped for the evidence of things not seen.
And if you want to keep the claim that Jew is by flesh and blood than Esau and all of his descendants are so-called Jews too!
The problem you have is the actually BIBLE.
Esther 8:17 (KJV)
And in every province, and in every city, whithersoever the king's commandment and his decree came, the Jews had joy and gladness, a feast and a good day. And 👉🏾many of the people of the land became Jews👈🏾; for the fear of the Jews fell upon them.
Bullshit video, completly edits out every argument that he loses
כל הכבוד, סחתיין על הכוח שלך, אם הייתי במקומך הייתה נגמרת לי הסבלנות מזמן חחחח אתה השראה
הייתי דופק להם מכות ממזמן 😂
Any historians will tell you that their is no such thing as a Palestinian people.
I doubt that Jewish Russian girl is actually Jewish, most of Russian Jewish were brought up as Christian and totally disconnected to Judaism and Israel
Just like European jews.
I doubt she is Jewish as well. She doesn’t know anything about Judaism.
@@ant5743 i dont think so, French , British , German Jews know about Judaism
You NEED to debate George Galloway like NEED !!!!
This guy making peace.....🤔
Is he though?
I actually find this girl really well behaved and well spoken. She stands for something she sees as an abuse still being a Jew and, to be honest, it's hard not to see the situation that way. Rudy is reasonable - even if your debate skills do not point at real conversation, rather than a flash conversion - and I get his point. What he wishes for is what the entire world wishes for, but it implies no predominancy shall be present in that land. I really hope Israel and Palestine could be an example to the entire world, rather than the hate-soaked powder keg it currently is.
rudys movement ought to be called " shmoozing with the enemy"
they are not the enemy just misguided cousins
I did a DNA test and found I have 3% to 5% European Jewish in my bloodline.
It's always the ones that have never seen a treadmill.
Completely against Palestinian suffering but.....
"i got robed 2 years ago. Now i need to robe someone"
"Why?"
"i got suffered from robery"
"I know how you feel. But why you robe someone else?"
"Again, i got suffered from robery"
The victimhood is toxic for God's sake
😁😅 And the baseless hatred oozing out of half this comment section is also incredible!!
If her parents are really from Russia they shame on her parents for not educating her.
Thank you Rudy for speaking to them!! I am a Russian American Jew ad completely support Israel. And it's NOT an apartheid state.
It is.
Wow 😳 the insults that are flying thru my head for that woman
He took 90% of the time talking. 90%....he didn't give any chance for others.
Because she had nothing to say.
Rudy, what are your career goals? You have the skill and ability to work in human affairs or politics to help the Arab-Israeli conflict at a larger scale. Do you aim to do that one day? Shalom alacheim!
It is all lyes from the Israeli narrative, here is a documentary that is produced by American journalist Abby Martin tells you the true story of the situation in Gaza.
ruclips.net/video/HnZSaKYmP2s/видео.html
👏👏👏👏 funny how in real life and not in a Facebook converstaion they have nothing to say and jump from one issue to another without making sense.
Ironic 😂
On the subject of not being allowed a space in the conversation - of being deligitimatised before even being heard - I've also experienced that, as a pro-life Christian who cares about the lives of our youngest and most vulnerable fellow human beings.
Recently, I read the statement: "Last year, abortion was once again responsible for the most deaths worldwide".
How sobering is that?
In Proverbs 24 v 10 - 12, I read:
"If you forbear to deliver them that are drawn toward death, and those that are ready to be slain;
If you say, 'Look, we didn't know', does not He who ponders the heart consider it? And He who keeps your soul, does He not know it? And shall He not render to everyone according to his works?"
Surely, we all have a personal responsibility to love our neighbour as we do ourselves? In fact, the One who said to do that also called on His followers to love our enemies.
But of course, that's only possible as we seek the help of the Almighty to change our own hearts.
May we desire that, for the good of all of us.
Great Job!
אתה מגיע בצורת חולשה זו ארצנו נקודה ואין על לדבר
אני לא מכיר איזה מדינה שמהגרים ינסו לעשות מהפכה שילטונית
You talk about a weakness we are the owner of the land and
And there is no occupation in your own land
@@kobe2544able ?
Honestly, I don’t understand the propensity to appeal to the sense of ancestral ownership/belonging. My ancestors came from China but you don’t see me yearning to go back there. In fact, I don’t even conform to my own culture. Lol
I love your argument , it’s sensible and legit ❤️
Free Palestina 🇵🇸🇮🇷💪
Too much editing and cut. The ladies arguments were strong. People who are watching this propaganda made their minds up before they clicked.
Did you even listen to a word he said?
@@YoungDumBased I listened to him but he edited out her. You do not make videos this way..this is propaganda of the highest order..forget what topic they are discussing.
@@book5651 Highly likely most Jews are converted and most Jews are secular atheists...go figure where God comes into all of that..and his chosen people. she is not a fraud.
U ain’t got the courage to head to nyc and talk to the Hebrew Israelites tho
That would be pointless, they aren't interested in anything he has to say.
Judaism is not an ethnicity. It's a religion.
Judaism is a religion but Jews are an ethnicity.
@@Deadly_fox512 No. Jews are people who practise judaism. Hebrew is the correct term to use.
@@שםשםמִשפחה anthropologists don't use that term, no, there are non-practicing Jews which would mean that Jew is both a religious designation and an ethnic one. Hebrew is a language.
@@Deadly_fox512 Then why were the slaves of Egypt refereed to as Hebrew people? Scripture also states that if you don't keep the Torah you are not part of the covenant, This would mean if you don't practice the religion you are not connected to the chosen people and are therefore not a Jew.
Listen to his explanation it make sense
"You have to show up" the absolute cheek of it
I don't think that belly shirt was working out for her.
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Sure as hell the men of the Six Day War were descended from those who slew Philistines. This lesbian dance major is caught up in something so lame I would rather talk sense into Christians.
why call your self jewish if you think you are a convert ?? its like me calling myself a native american and then saying " all my ancestors came from europe". Jewish ppl regardless of being white or brown believe they are the original jews from back before the expulsion, acknowledging that yes some ppl converted but the numbers were small. To me if you think that all of your ancestors were converted and are not indigenous to the land of judea then how are you jewish? If i knew 100 percent that all my grandparents were converts i would never call myself jewish. judaism is a ppl with a culture and traditions and a religion that got kicked out of their land by romans.
I’m Jewish there are a lot of Jews in the United States who don’t know a lot about Judaism.
Being a convert means being adopted and becoming a part of israel. No real convert could be secular or reject torah for example...that's why the convert is just an adopted Israelite.
That woman probably was no convert...
עבדיהו בן חכמה Has she took a DNA test?
@@noahremnek3615 Probably not...its just what her professors taught her...
Jews were heavily persecuted in russia. No one would convert under those circumstances...
עבדיהו בן חכמה My ancestors were persecuted in Russia she only looks at the conflict from one point of view
So if the term anti-zionist is being against the existence of the State of Israel, and thus offensibe. What should be the right term to use when you support it's existence but not the bad things done?
Tu Gfa En Cuatro
A Zionist who disagrees with certain policies.
I love state but im not agree all the time with what our govermaennet done in the past and do now.
But i love israel
@@SigalDadoes anyone ever agree with everything their own state or country does because I would say no I can't tell you anyone that I know of the agegrees with everything
Respect to this woman😍
What, to her camel toe?
There is nothing to respect about her, intellectually or physically!
Man if there were more people like u on both sides there is a hope