HOW TO MAKE YOUR KICKS AND 808s HIT HARDER!

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  • @f00kwhiteblackracismwarsh07
    @f00kwhiteblackracismwarsh07 11 месяцев назад +1106

    basically side chaining

    • @zelostial
      @zelostial 11 месяцев назад +121

      Not even basically, it literally is

    • @amaannajmi7658
      @amaannajmi7658 11 месяцев назад +3

      That too not correct, because if he puts an effect on the 808, the kick will get it to. Should have routed the 808 to a free one

    • @freshbob4777
      @freshbob4777 11 месяцев назад +8

      It really doesn’t make them hit harder tho, it makes the 808 lose power but makes the kick cut through and making it less muddy. If u don’t wanna lose power just surgical eq

    • @q6x
      @q6x 11 месяцев назад

      @@amaannajmi7658no? the kick and 808 are on different inserts

    • @ryley8211
      @ryley8211 10 месяцев назад +1

      if you know what that is, don't complain about it cause this video is for beginners

  • @timmyaudio
    @timmyaudio 11 месяцев назад +686

    1. Pick a good 808 w a decent transient
    2. Boost 2-4%
    3. Add some high end on the EQ setting in the sampler
    4. (At this point it should be slamming through the mix / redlining the mixer)
    5. Add a fruity compressor / threshold it at 0 / compress to liking, add slight gain to have it peaking just slightly
    6. Add fruity limiter and turn everything down to 0 except threshold, make sure it doesn't pass 0, add slight saturation to get a little crunch
    7. Pull the mixer gain .5-1 DB so you have a little headroom, but for a trap beat ur 808 should by far be the most focused point, cause if ur 808 doesn't slap the beat doesn't slap
    8. Now ur 808 sounds industry ready and doesn't destroy your entire mix by clouding it :)

    • @canton18
      @canton18 11 месяцев назад +8

      Thank you bro. This was very helpful

    • @biomes5836
      @biomes5836 11 месяцев назад +40

      or invest in good kits that don’t need any of this bs😂

    • @timmyaudio
      @timmyaudio 11 месяцев назад +87

      @@biomes5836 Mans didn't even read step one and runs his mouth 💀💀💀

    • @biomes5836
      @biomes5836 11 месяцев назад +8

      @@timmyaudio go back to ya npc type beats bucko

    • @timmyaudio
      @timmyaudio 11 месяцев назад

      @@biomes5836 Find Jesus

  • @BoomdockBeats
    @BoomdockBeats Год назад +96

    Hitting hard!!🔥

    • @JASPERTUTORIALS
      @JASPERTUTORIALS  Год назад

      ‼️‼️

    • @pathos_music
      @pathos_music 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@JASPERTUTORIALSsorry mate i cant do this im stuck to the forbidden daw

  • @user-ir7td8cw5o
    @user-ir7td8cw5o Год назад +143

    Well.. just I think pushing back 808's attack is a tip to do a clean mixing without changing phase..

    • @jdxsh
      @jdxsh Год назад +19

      i hate sidechaining like that, this is better, really doing that type of sidechaining makes it sound more dead imo

    • @ISHI6I
      @ISHI6I Год назад +15

      if ur worried about the kick clashing with ur 808… just synthesize your 808s yourself. Kick/sub phase is extremely trivial. Now… when you start using reverb+disto+extreme width.. on your subs high harmonic layers… just mid side eq your sides and leave the sub center, (if ur bass does not stay completely still whilest sustaining a note (its out of phase)

    • @jdxsh
      @jdxsh Год назад +1

      yep

    • @user-ir7td8cw5o
      @user-ir7td8cw5o Год назад +5

      @@ISHI6I No. If you listen to the many hip hop instrumental tracks released, you can easily hear the 808's attack weakened even when there is no kick. Honestly, I also use side chains through compressors a lot when I make other genres of songs such as Deep House and Pop. But not as much as in the trap. Flatly, Kenny beats and other producers agree too

    • @stillgotyourmom
      @stillgotyourmom Год назад

      ​@@user-ir7td8cw5oIts actually the magic to find an 808 and kick matching together. If it klicks together you will have less trouble to push it up and have power with the unique sound.

  • @Xevics
    @Xevics 10 месяцев назад +24

    Put an EQ on 808,
    Add a Peak controller on Kick
    Link first frequency from EQ to peak controller & invert the scale.
    Thank me later

    • @cedarstar152
      @cedarstar152 5 месяцев назад +2

      ^^ I do this and it works every time

  • @SibaNL
    @SibaNL 11 месяцев назад +80

    Man discovers sidechaining.
    Try using volume automation for sidechaining as it gives way more control.

    • @Flicky800
      @Flicky800 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@Potent1al automation clips with fruity balance volume

    • @positiveman4605
      @positiveman4605 3 месяца назад

      Takes longer and causes latency

    • @TwiztOndaBeat
      @TwiztOndaBeat 3 месяца назад

      That sounds like unnecessary work

    • @SibaNL
      @SibaNL 3 месяца назад +1

      @@TwiztOndaBeat Ok Twizt on da Beat

    • @Elektr0hazard
      @Elektr0hazard 3 месяца назад

      ​@@TwiztOndaBeat just use Gross Beat and you're good

  • @SirSmizzi
    @SirSmizzi 11 месяцев назад +23

    Damn that’s shyt did sound hard 😂

    • @JASPERTUTORIALS
      @JASPERTUTORIALS  11 месяцев назад +1

      Appreciate it bro!

    • @SirSmizzi
      @SirSmizzi 11 месяцев назад

      @@JASPERTUTORIALS thanks for showing us 🙌🏿💪🏿

  • @illagevidiot8254
    @illagevidiot8254 11 месяцев назад +3

    Right click the sidechain dropdown and pick the exact channel you want. Don't tell them to just pick "1". Granted it'll only have the channel you have side chained to it, but knowing that in and of itself has some uses for someone who has no idea what sidechain compression is used for as it is.

  • @uz8587
    @uz8587 8 месяцев назад +67

    bro just explained side chaining like its some secret trick he found

    • @JASPERTUTORIALS
      @JASPERTUTORIALS  8 месяцев назад +55

      I never said it was a secret trick? There’s a load of beginners who watch my videos who need to learn this kind of stuff

    • @Ludo_On_The_Beat
      @Ludo_On_The_Beat 7 месяцев назад +12

      @@JASPERTUTORIALS thats the first time i understand sidechain so thank you a lot

    • @JASPERTUTORIALS
      @JASPERTUTORIALS  7 месяцев назад +9

      @@Ludo_On_The_Beat gotchu bro! Glad it helped :)

    • @domehatessouthpaws
      @domehatessouthpaws 7 месяцев назад

      yh bro me too@@JASPERTUTORIALS

    • @GamingGuineaPig
      @GamingGuineaPig 7 месяцев назад +4

      ​@Ludo_On_The_Beat Same here, I've watched a few of your videos, and the people in the comments are always really mean 😭 the producing community seems to be quite harsh sometimes 😞 Anyway- I find your tutorials really useful! 🫶

  • @ithurtstolove
    @ithurtstolove 11 месяцев назад +4

    People saying not to do this don't understand clashing frequencies, the kick and the 808 have the same low end frequencies at around 35 in the eq, both the kick and 808 frequencies are clashing causing clipping and distortion, if u sidechain the kick to the 808 this solves this issue by letting one frequency stand out. If you don't want the 808 to stand out, then just don't use a kick. Stop complaining about it doesn't sound good, because in the right context it does, if you want an unprofessional mix then go on ahead.

    • @Synthpoptroubadour
      @Synthpoptroubadour 11 месяцев назад

      I don’t quite understand, the 808 is a drum kit whereas a kick is a sound within that drum kit… Would you mind explaining what he means in this video? I don’t quite get it.

    • @g4merkakyoin
      @g4merkakyoin 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@Synthpoptroubadouran 808 isn't a drum kick. It's a really low synth bass so you use it like a normal instrument. The only thing you have to worry about is the fact that an 808 and a kick drum have the same frequencies most of the time, but apart from that you shouldn't treat it like drums

    • @RootboyFrenzyMat
      @RootboyFrenzyMat 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@Synthpoptroubadourit's like saying subbass is a drumkit, it's just low frequency. That's the problem here, 808 is low frequency too

    • @RootboyFrenzyMat
      @RootboyFrenzyMat 11 месяцев назад

      Like the kick too

    • @martyrx3436
      @martyrx3436 11 месяцев назад

      Mixed By Ali must not know what he’s talking about then lol…

  • @rlyBeats
    @rlyBeats 11 месяцев назад +4

    when mike dean, alex tumay, and kenny beats all say dont sidechain, i think its best to look at the more effective alternatives

    • @JASPERTUTORIALS
      @JASPERTUTORIALS  11 месяцев назад +3

      Mike Dean’s one of the GOATs so I wouldn’t disagree with him, but there’s really no “right” or “wrong” with music production, if you like how it sounds then you should be free to do whatever you think sounds best

    • @rlyBeats
      @rlyBeats 11 месяцев назад

      @@JASPERTUTORIALS yeah definitely, just dont use it as a bandaid for clashing kicks and 808s & dont use it like this “to make your 808 hit harder” because it will do the opposite of that

    • @RootboyFrenzyMat
      @RootboyFrenzyMat 11 месяцев назад +2

      Ur kick and 808 won't clash if u mix properly at first

    • @JASPERTUTORIALS
      @JASPERTUTORIALS  11 месяцев назад

      @@rlyBeats for sure, kicks and 808s should be properly mixed to ensure they don’t clash. This was just a quick 1 min tutorial on how to sidechain drums to add punch to an 808. There’s plenty of other methods which I would use but would take a lot longer than 1 minute to explain. Making the 808 “hit harder” os maybe the wrong way of describing it, I’m actually “adding punch to my 808”

    • @rlyBeats
      @rlyBeats 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@JASPERTUTORIALS idk bro. takes less time to show phase alignment in fl, plus like i said this doesnt add punch to an 808, youre ducking the 808, so any punch it did have is gone/reduced depending how much you duck by. theres way better ways to do this & honestly this kinda info can be harmful for beginners. its great that youre showing people how to side chain, but under the guise of adding punch is not so great

  • @streddl3
    @streddl3 Месяц назад

    Хорошо подкопал Арута, спасибо за проделанный труд!

  • @jotzky9887
    @jotzky9887 11 месяцев назад +4

    The chain input may not be number 1 make sure to double check 😁

  • @1prdasim
    @1prdasim 11 месяцев назад +4

    bro try removing the fruity limiter on the master then add a soft clipper thats it

  • @cedricdavis513
    @cedricdavis513 8 месяцев назад +2

    This is a tip? Thought sidechaining was a must for kick and bass lol

  • @gaborobaza8107
    @gaborobaza8107 3 месяца назад

    Sidechain always goes hardd

  • @dominicmcareavey2675
    @dominicmcareavey2675 10 месяцев назад +1

    It’s about sound selection as well

  • @vukan.mp3
    @vukan.mp3 Месяц назад

    putting ur kick at a lower note in the piano role also helps them hit harder 🙇‍♂️

  • @ThatMannKevin
    @ThatMannKevin 5 месяцев назад

    Guy said “the Aye oh aye 🥴

  • @CHANCEL3R
    @CHANCEL3R 10 месяцев назад +1

    freddie dredd been doing this for years

  • @skyn0rks
    @skyn0rks 11 месяцев назад +2

    Bro told us to sidechain

  • @1NOTEGBEATZ
    @1NOTEGBEATZ 9 месяцев назад +1

    Do you also eq & flip phase for hours after till really thuds?
    You want to double up your 808 & send the kick to a completely different channel - then flip the phase on either.

  • @harjyots
    @harjyots 11 месяцев назад +1

    Bro found out about sidechaining

  • @birdlion2484
    @birdlion2484 11 месяцев назад +19

    I still like the long trap 808s. I know they're old but they were underused and the 2017-2019 808s were barely audible and had not bass. All of the songs with long and loud 808s were big hits.

    • @vodvillain
      @vodvillain 10 месяцев назад +4

      Spinz really did fuck up trap drums imo

    • @jotajsmoint
      @jotajsmoint 7 месяцев назад

      I say the same

  • @emmieeeeeeeeeeeeeee
    @emmieeeeeeeeeeeeeee 10 месяцев назад +1

    better and easier way of doing this is to lower the low end of your kicks slightly with an eq, then do the exact opposite to the low end of the 808

  • @Synthpoptroubadour
    @Synthpoptroubadour 11 месяцев назад +1

    I don’t quite understand, the 808 is a drum kit whereas a kick is a sound within that drum kit… Can anybody explain this to me?

    • @JASPERTUTORIALS
      @JASPERTUTORIALS  11 месяцев назад

      A drum kit is a folder that contains multiple kick, clap, snare, hihat, percussion, 808 bass, sounds!

  • @hbartram11
    @hbartram11 5 месяцев назад +1

    Is it better to side chain kick and bass through the limiter or the peak control?

  • @prod3thernal
    @prod3thernal 11 месяцев назад +2

    Don't sidechain guys.
    It makes the 808 punch useless

    • @JASPERTUTORIALS
      @JASPERTUTORIALS  11 месяцев назад

      The 808 punch is sidechained so that the kick punch (which hits harder) is playing instead of the 808

    • @prod3thernal
      @prod3thernal 11 месяцев назад +6

      @JASPERTUTORIALS but 808 and kick clashing can be avoided by using better fitting/quality sounds and sometimes by reversing the polarity of the kick or even eq slotting.

  • @yirmiuc6107
    @yirmiuc6107 11 месяцев назад +2

    Learn about stauration/distortion and you will be able to make almost everything hit hard

  • @armywithluv55
    @armywithluv55 9 месяцев назад +2

    Why did you call 808 to the bass?

  • @user-lo4nj6et5f
    @user-lo4nj6et5f 8 месяцев назад +26

    out of key 808s

  • @reallypuma
    @reallypuma 11 месяцев назад +1

    What 808 ya like? spinz?

  • @MsStrati
    @MsStrati 4 месяца назад

    Better use a Peak Controller, you dont always want to compress Kick and bass. With Peak Controller you only effect the voume and input time on the 808, with fruity Limiter you automatically add compression, that will steal brightness from your low end mix

  • @ruinajoven
    @ruinajoven 4 месяца назад

    You dont need sidechain if you check the 808 and kick's phase and make sure they are aligned before selecting them

  • @gush35z67
    @gush35z67 11 месяцев назад +1

    How to do for Logic?

  • @KunalKumar-jt1xl
    @KunalKumar-jt1xl 7 месяцев назад

    Bro increasing velocity in piano roll does not matter if they are all the same, the final output is totally depend upon good EQing and better mixing.😊 (To learn more follow Unbeasic Mixing this is my channel and i will teach you great mixing and even mastering tricks without wasting your precious time. I learned it all from paid courses and youtube and now its time to give it back to the community❤)

    • @JASPERTUTORIALS
      @JASPERTUTORIALS  7 месяцев назад

      Velocity directly affects timbre in 99% of plugins, which completely changes the sound

  • @TheCurtainLift
    @TheCurtainLift 10 месяцев назад +1

    When hip hop producers learn what side chaining is lmfao

    • @JASPERTUTORIALS
      @JASPERTUTORIALS  10 месяцев назад

      I’m teaching the right way of sidechaining - not the other useless tutorials I see on RUclips

    • @TheCurtainLift
      @TheCurtainLift 10 месяцев назад

      @@JASPERTUTORIALS I know I’m just pointing out how a pretty beginner mixing technique is relatively unknown to an entire genre of “producers”

    • @JASPERTUTORIALS
      @JASPERTUTORIALS  10 месяцев назад +2

      @@TheCurtainLift I don’t thinking sidechaining is unknown 🤣 I’m just doing a tutorial to show the best way to do it

  • @Benowww
    @Benowww 11 месяцев назад +1

    Bro can you tell me a free and good drum kit for har trap? With nice 808

  • @Angel-qb7pq
    @Angel-qb7pq 11 месяцев назад +1

    What can i do if i want to do that for a beat thats "finished" im trynna rap on it but noticed the 808s not hitting like they should and its from yt im new to this so anything helps

    • @prod.xavgvst
      @prod.xavgvst 11 месяцев назад +1

      You would have to get the audio stem of the 808 only, better get another beat broski

    • @Angel-qb7pq
      @Angel-qb7pq 11 месяцев назад

      @@prod.xavgvst not what i wanted to hear😔

  • @trky1026
    @trky1026 5 месяцев назад

    So how would this work for FL studio mobile users? Im stuck with mobile atm with a unison beatmaker blueprint pack, cymatics drum samples.
    So are u basically saying to SC the 808 and leave the kick alone?

  • @twentytwo5
    @twentytwo5 4 месяца назад

    So u side chained ur 808 to ur kick and clipped the master, never expected to see this explained by someone

  • @j1thegod
    @j1thegod 9 месяцев назад +2

    Y’all are sidechaining 808’s? Bro say it ain’t so😢

  • @HappilyAnonymousGirl
    @HappilyAnonymousGirl 7 месяцев назад +1

    Why are people assuming he just learned this, when the video is a tutorial?
    If you know how to do it and what it’s called, great. No need to be negative…
    I’d rather see more helpful tips in the comments, than to see people tearing someone down for teaching total newbies.

    • @JASPERTUTORIALS
      @JASPERTUTORIALS  7 месяцев назад

      I agree, it’s weird isn’t it. People seem to think that they have to prove that they know more than everyone else

  • @MoonDeityStar
    @MoonDeityStar 8 месяцев назад +1

    I just started but it only let me use the black notes instead of both help me pls

    • @JASPERTUTORIALS
      @JASPERTUTORIALS  8 месяцев назад

      I know how to fix this but its gonna be pretty impossible to explain on here, jump in the discord and ill send you a screen record of how to fix

  • @Jerryleedlelee
    @Jerryleedlelee 11 месяцев назад +1

    I have an issue where the 808 continues even if the pattern runs out. How do I stop this?

    • @JASPERTUTORIALS
      @JASPERTUTORIALS  11 месяцев назад

      Go to the envelope setting and turn everything down apart from hold which you need to turn to fulll

  • @Mattiimateo
    @Mattiimateo Год назад +1

    🔊💯🥇🔊

  • @portomilk8080
    @portomilk8080 4 месяца назад

    I never understood maxing out velocities for drums and 808.

  • @steveStonehedge
    @steveStonehedge Месяц назад

    Can you be my producer friend if I make it on the industry ?

  • @MOR4PH
    @MOR4PH 10 месяцев назад +1

    Nope, heres an easier one. Limit your melody line. Eq your lows and make air for the speakers to breathe air benders.
    The kick and the 808 and the snare should route directly out to mastér channel.
    Focus on Eq on the master after you hear everything.

  • @wildcard04
    @wildcard04 5 месяцев назад

    Yeah I’ve been doing this for years, it’s just muscle memory at this point lol

  • @NiKO-yo8tz
    @NiKO-yo8tz 9 месяцев назад +1

    Are you from Australia?

  • @honeyfarms2221
    @honeyfarms2221 11 месяцев назад

    808
    - Soundgoodizer (Setting D no change)
    - Fruity EQ 2 Kick Preset (no change)
    Kick
    - Soundgoodizer (Setting D no change)
    - Fruity EQ 2 Kick Preset (Gain +6)

    • @FLStudioHead
      @FLStudioHead 11 месяцев назад

      🤦‍♂️ soundgoodizer? On a 808? Bro yall need to stop overprocessing sounds. The 808’s sound good without the extra effects. I literally use no effects on my 808’s. I may eq to take sum highs out or boost lows but thats it.

  • @maxim8967
    @maxim8967 4 месяца назад

    Or just use reverse polarity on the kick

  • @kkkk-nd9qf
    @kkkk-nd9qf 11 месяцев назад +2

    How would I explain this... A kick is a Kick and your 808s are 808s the two are different audio forms they are not the same thing, don't treat them as such... Side chaining would link them and remove a significant part of both separate audios as engineers we try our best to not harm the individual audios themselves and we treat them with care cause we aren't producing or doing major sound designs. Do you understand why you shouldn't sidechain the kicks and 808s?... One word tip though... "Distortions".

    • @Brotherinchristt
      @Brotherinchristt 11 месяцев назад +2

      But if u dont side chain, they are gonna sound muddy

    • @RootboyFrenzyMat
      @RootboyFrenzyMat 11 месяцев назад

      U can phase them together but really just anything works. It's just a matter of how you want ur beat to sound

    • @kkkk-nd9qf
      @kkkk-nd9qf 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@Brotherinchristt it's not going to be muddy. Just get your gain staging right everything would work together then distort your 808s

    • @tripsixkid
      @tripsixkid 11 месяцев назад

      Shut up reddit

    • @TragicTv3
      @TragicTv3 11 месяцев назад

      Sidechain is fine as long as you can add balance and harmony between the weight of the 808 & the kick. These are just cheap hacks for good bass, really it would be proper to design the sub bass & kick separately for a better marriage. But then again music is art and it’s all about the desired outcome there’s no one, best,or perfect way and we all have opinions.

  • @prodbydmaterialz
    @prodbydmaterialz 7 месяцев назад

    Every 808 sounds good on c,d,e notes 😂

    • @JASPERTUTORIALS
      @JASPERTUTORIALS  7 месяцев назад +1

      Depends on the 808 tbh - I prefer my spinz a little lower like around B, but prefer my CTM a little higher pitched

    • @prodbydmaterialz
      @prodbydmaterialz 7 месяцев назад

      @@JASPERTUTORIALS yep same it's b or either d#

  • @jeffotero5676
    @jeffotero5676 11 месяцев назад

    👍👍

  • @mirazi360
    @mirazi360 11 месяцев назад +2

    I think you can make better results with peak controller

  • @j.r.a.inthacut8148
    @j.r.a.inthacut8148 10 месяцев назад

    Why are you sidechaining with a limiter...use volume automation with a plug in like duck. It will keep your kick and bass phase relationship in tact.

  • @martinilinguine3130
    @martinilinguine3130 11 месяцев назад +13

    Don't do this. Sidechaining is an effect! Not a mixing technique!!!

    • @ALostCarolean
      @ALostCarolean 9 месяцев назад

      it's both a mixing technique and an effect

  • @scoob1449
    @scoob1449 11 месяцев назад +9

    Tbh if you want hard hitting 808s just slightly redline the 808 and add a fruity limiter to the master

    • @iamnevrchange.9570
      @iamnevrchange.9570 11 месяцев назад +13

      jesus christ
      to anyone reading this please do not put fruity limiter on your master. please.

    • @Egraxx
      @Egraxx 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@iamnevrchange.9570tbh he ain't wrong, take off the limiter for all that matters you'll still get it too hit hard if your clipping the 808

    • @phoneringphilip2342
      @phoneringphilip2342 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@iamnevrchange.9570nick mira did it so i will do it too

    • @scoob1449
      @scoob1449 11 месяцев назад

      @@iamnevrchange.9570 why not

    • @atlaspr0d
      @atlaspr0d 11 месяцев назад +4

      Do not do this, use a soft clipper instead. The dynamics of your 808 will be squashed if you use fruity limiter especially is it’s redlining.

  • @randomslav4721
    @randomslav4721 4 месяца назад

    0:00 saving

  • @mateohuf3811
    @mateohuf3811 Год назад +1

    This makes the 808 hit less hard bruh, you just hear the kick and the trail of the 808, trap producers rlly just saying anything ig

    • @JASPERTUTORIALS
      @JASPERTUTORIALS  Год назад

      I added punch to the 808 by adding the kick, it’s not that hard to understand.

    • @mateohuf3811
      @mateohuf3811 Год назад

      @@JASPERTUTORIALS the 808 trails behind the kick when u sidechain bruh, the impact is weaker, how u got a whole ass prod channel and not know this shit

    • @JASPERTUTORIALS
      @JASPERTUTORIALS  Год назад +1

      @@mateohuf3811 the impact is from the Kick, not the 808. That’s literally the whole point of the video

    • @mateohuf3811
      @mateohuf3811 Год назад

      @@JASPERTUTORIALS yeah but you could literally just not sidechain and stack them to make it hit harder

    • @JASPERTUTORIALS
      @JASPERTUTORIALS  Год назад +2

      @@mateohuf3811 the frequencies clash and it sounds muddy if you do that

  • @don_huzan
    @don_huzan 11 месяцев назад +1

    This is basics

  • @anissteevan6676
    @anissteevan6676 11 месяцев назад +2

    dude your 808 is distorting reduce the level of 808 and who is this this guy

  • @phoneringphilip2342
    @phoneringphilip2342 11 месяцев назад

    Don’t mix like that… why would you wanna have a kick like this? Do the sidechain but just turn down the kick master volume until you find the spot where it hits, but not necessarily harder the the 808.

  • @junomadethis
    @junomadethis Год назад +1

    0:01

  • @tresfrangos
    @tresfrangos Год назад +12

    sidechaining your 808s only makes it hit less... you can barely hear the 808... you only hear the kick

    • @JASPERTUTORIALS
      @JASPERTUTORIALS  Год назад +3

      Yes so you’re hearing the punchy kick drum and then the 808 after

    • @tresfrangos
      @tresfrangos Год назад +1

      @@JASPERTUTORIALS yup, and now its clipping! congrats!

    • @JASPERTUTORIALS
      @JASPERTUTORIALS  Год назад +2

      @@tresfrangos that’s why you use the soft clipper! 🤣

    • @JASPERTUTORIALS
      @JASPERTUTORIALS  Год назад +2

      @@tresfrangos did you watch the tutorial bro?

    • @tresfrangos
      @tresfrangos Год назад +6

      @@JASPERTUTORIALS doesnt matter, you're clipping BEFORE the clipper... thats basic mixing...

  • @whatsup8751
    @whatsup8751 10 месяцев назад +1

    lmao

  • @iMobinator
    @iMobinator 11 месяцев назад

    why do ppl think velocity on a sample is gonna make it “hit harder” its just turning up the volume with no change lol

    • @JASPERTUTORIALS
      @JASPERTUTORIALS  11 месяцев назад

      This is not the case with plugins btw. You’ll notice with some piano sounds that turning the velocity down reduces the harshness of the sounds, which is completely different to just decreasing volume

    • @iMobinator
      @iMobinator 11 месяцев назад

      @@JASPERTUTORIALS ur using an 808, 95% plus of people use wav samples for 808s. velocity only matters if the bass ur using in the plugin in actually changes parameters like distortion or eqing to make it hit harder.

    • @JASPERTUTORIALS
      @JASPERTUTORIALS  11 месяцев назад

      @@iMobinator yes that’s correct, I simply tell people to increase velocity to full as that’s generally the right volume level for the mix

  • @purplsonbeats
    @purplsonbeats 10 месяцев назад +1

    0:00

  • @factsunami5442
    @factsunami5442 11 месяцев назад +1

    😂

  • @freddyredflag
    @freddyredflag 9 месяцев назад +1

    limiter on the 808??? Wtf r u doing bruv

  • @tintobruh._
    @tintobruh._ 8 месяцев назад +1

    808 was better with no mixing and no kick ngl lol

  • @devpatrick3034
    @devpatrick3034 11 месяцев назад +1

    this is better for pop mixing, not hiphop

    • @GodSpeed1105
      @GodSpeed1105 11 месяцев назад +1

      Not true. It's more popular with Edm for having a very heavy pump effect, but it doesn't mean it's limited to Edm either. It's just another option and variety.

  • @TiryqThomas
    @TiryqThomas 11 месяцев назад +1

    Just soft clip it

  • @hlollib123bjornsson3
    @hlollib123bjornsson3 10 месяцев назад +1

    Bro this is trap not edm if southside or metro hear sidechaining in your kicks and 808s thay turning that shit off

    • @JASPERTUTORIALS
      @JASPERTUTORIALS  10 месяцев назад

      This is literally how the majority of the tracks were produced on UTOPIA. Please don’t make comments like this when they are completely false

  • @RootboyFrenzyMat
    @RootboyFrenzyMat 11 месяцев назад +1

    Mixing trick = sidechain
    At this point if u don't know sidechaining, don't even bother with the mix lol keep up the "inspiration" 😂😂

    • @RootboyFrenzyMat
      @RootboyFrenzyMat 11 месяцев назад

      Also better way, just do volume automation and reduce the volume of the 808 everytime the kick hits

    • @JASPERTUTORIALS
      @JASPERTUTORIALS  11 месяцев назад

      I’m showing a mixing technique to anybody who hasn’t learned this already. Volume automation would have the exact same effect as this but would take longer, seems pointless

    • @RootboyFrenzyMat
      @RootboyFrenzyMat 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@JASPERTUTORIALSit wouldnt take that much longer, i'd rather take my time doing clean side chain that messing the audios with fruity limiter. But limiter sidechain sometimes works better on sounds like synthesizer etc

    • @RootboyFrenzyMat
      @RootboyFrenzyMat 11 месяцев назад

      @@JASPERTUTORIALS still appreciate the videos and the fact u sharing knowledges tho 👍

    • @JASPERTUTORIALS
      @JASPERTUTORIALS  11 месяцев назад

      @@RootboyFrenzyMat thanks man! I appreciate the feedback, it’s important for us to all share knowledge with each other!

  • @quispluto20
    @quispluto20 11 месяцев назад

    Just turn the velocity up🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️ Y’all be doing way to much tryna make 808s hit hard.

  • @Kotjek
    @Kotjek 11 месяцев назад +1

    please change nick for davidjasper tips

    • @Kotjek
      @Kotjek 11 месяцев назад

      its really important you choose david jasper at the begenning you will thank me later for Subscribtions

    • @JASPERTUTORIALS
      @JASPERTUTORIALS  11 месяцев назад

      @@Kotjek bruh what? My name ain’t David 😂

  • @sxlvestertherager
    @sxlvestertherager 4 месяца назад

    oldest trick in the books

  • @b0ri5x83
    @b0ri5x83 3 месяца назад

    Or just a preset kick

  • @UrixMusic
    @UrixMusic 11 месяцев назад

    It's just sidechaining

  • @steveStonehedge
    @steveStonehedge Месяц назад

    I thought everybody did this

  • @optimisum7807
    @optimisum7807 11 месяцев назад +1

    don’t do this😅and if u do use peak control. reverse polarity should be all u need to do or maybe a little eq

  • @vgxplaysdahood
    @vgxplaysdahood 11 месяцев назад

    I WAS JUST FINISHED WITH MY TRACK UPLOADED IT TO SOUNDCLOUD WITHOUT THIS TRICK 😭

  • @anointedboyz4638
    @anointedboyz4638 Месяц назад

    You are clipping bro side chaining won’t help at that point 🤞🏻

  • @user-mc4ow1dt7l
    @user-mc4ow1dt7l 11 месяцев назад

    Sounds bad, not use limiter for sidechain

  • @purpleobscurity1878
    @purpleobscurity1878 Год назад

    But you know there is such thing as drums that hit too hard to the point where it sounds terrible so watch out for that

    • @JASPERTUTORIALS
      @JASPERTUTORIALS  Год назад

      Yeah for sure, you don’t want them to be too distorted

  • @JOHNDEPAPA
    @JOHNDEPAPA 5 месяцев назад

    or just pitchbend your 808😂

    • @JASPERTUTORIALS
      @JASPERTUTORIALS  4 месяца назад

      That's not even remotely the same thing that I just showed?

    • @JOHNDEPAPA
      @JOHNDEPAPA 4 месяца назад

      @@JASPERTUTORIALSYou are basically adding a kick to your 808 with it..

  • @godforreal7355
    @godforreal7355 11 месяцев назад +1

    Congratulations! It sounds like every other fl producer on RUclips! Now you're perfectly unoriginal!

    • @JASPERTUTORIALS
      @JASPERTUTORIALS  11 месяцев назад

      L

    • @godforreal7355
      @godforreal7355 11 месяцев назад

      @@JASPERTUTORIALS I have an idea, how about you make a beat, wait for it... _without_ an accent snare!

    • @JASPERTUTORIALS
      @JASPERTUTORIALS  11 месяцев назад

      @@godforreal7355 I’ve got plenty of them listed on BeatStars

    • @godforreal7355
      @godforreal7355 11 месяцев назад

      @@JASPERTUTORIALS alright, alright, touché.

  • @fodek3087
    @fodek3087 10 месяцев назад

    sidechaining 808s is a really basic and a pretty bad technique

  • @irobot2258
    @irobot2258 7 месяцев назад

    808 always sound so corny

  • @LediMusica
    @LediMusica 10 месяцев назад

    Total bs, you should almost never sidechain your808 and kick, it just loses the punch.. stop listening to dumb advices and people telling you to sidechain that

  • @shimmernox
    @shimmernox 11 месяцев назад +1

    wow that just sounds terrible

  • @oneperson8944
    @oneperson8944 10 месяцев назад +1

    basic

  • @josephpimentel8314
    @josephpimentel8314 6 месяцев назад

    Sounds like boring cliche trap music

  • @alexmonfort3998
    @alexmonfort3998 11 месяцев назад

    so many wrong things in this video... Learn your mixing theory kids

    • @JASPERTUTORIALS
      @JASPERTUTORIALS  11 месяцев назад

      Name one of them, Alex.

    • @alexmonfort3998
      @alexmonfort3998 11 месяцев назад

      @@JASPERTUTORIALS It is an atrocity to eliminate the limiter at the end of the master chain, it is there for a reason. Sometimes when doing sound design, some synths could get extremely loud and break your speakers/ears.
      It would be much better to make a send to another channel (kick+808) and there, put a waveshaper (which can act as a clipper but with many more options to adjust to taste). Also having a separate channel for this won't absorb your volume space for other elements.
      Just to name one, Jasper.
      I wasn't trying to hate man but eventhough you can break all the rules in production, somethings are just incorrect 🥴

    • @JASPERTUTORIALS
      @JASPERTUTORIALS  11 месяцев назад

      @@alexmonfort3998 that just explains how clueless you are. 90% of hip hop producers swap the limiter for a soft clipper. A soft clipper stops the volume from exceeding 0db, just like a limiter does.
      Respectfully, please don’t leave comments like this if you don’t know what you’re talking about. New producers will read these and you will be giving them incorrect advice

    • @alexmonfort3998
      @alexmonfort3998 11 месяцев назад

      @@JASPERTUTORIALS
      Even if it was cutting all the signal it is still incorrect to treat your kick and 808 in the master channel, as it affects all the othe components. The master channel is for MASTERING or analyzing the track as a whole.
      Anyway, just wanted to let the people who read it know that there is more depth to it and make their curiosity perfect their technique.
      Respectfully, don't delegitimize information that is more correct than the one you gave just bcose you don't know.
      Whatever bro, I'm done with the conv, this is pointless haha

    • @JASPERTUTORIALS
      @JASPERTUTORIALS  11 месяцев назад +1

      @@alexmonfort3998you’re talking nonsense, I use the same methods as industry producers. A soft clipper on the master is standard

  • @Kyle_almighty1
    @Kyle_almighty1 10 месяцев назад +1

    Damn why doesn’t RUclips let us save shorts to playlists 🤦‍♂️

    • @JASPERTUTORIALS
      @JASPERTUTORIALS  10 месяцев назад

      It’s annoying isn’t it! I usually just like the videos so that they save to my liked videos playlist

  • @PlatinumEagleStudios
    @PlatinumEagleStudios 11 месяцев назад

    That still sounds distorted as hell. The finished product I could still hear it clipping like crazy. Any way you can remove that harsh bit at the end of the 808?

  • @biomes5836
    @biomes5836 11 месяцев назад

    it really doesn’t make that much a difference if u just layer them lol atleast to the average listener