The Nessmuk and Kephart trio is DEAD!
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- Опубликовано: 4 фев 2023
- This week we discuss if the Kephart and Nessmuk trio is still valid in the contemporary outdoor adventurer's kit. I also give you some ideas to consider in choosing what pieces to add or exclude. If you are interested in my axe sheath patterns or my early 1900's cookbook please send me an email at mrdyersmusings@honorableoutfitters.com!
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Nothing old school traditional is outdated. The Kephart and Nessmuk knives worked well in the 1800s and they will work today. I own both custom forged versions and they are excellent. I also have a hand forged tomahawk and silky saw as well as Great eastern cutlery pocket knives Ben Hogan , #87 Jack knife and others . I love the old traditional knives of the old west frontier and single action revolvers and lever action rifles more than anything new today.
Old does not mean "outdated". Advancements in technology, materials, information, social cues, and ways of thinking are what dictates "outdated". Old does not mean "bad". It's very capable, to this day. There are just new options available now.
Kephart, who also like pliers, would replace the pocket knife with a multitool these days. For me, it's a boy's axe (usually my Hudson's Bay), a 7" folding saw (Silky Gomboy Outback), a sheath knife (BHK Scout) and now, a pocket knife (Case Hunter). There's absolutely no reason for any human being with an X and a Y chromosome to "not" carry the 8oz a good quality saw weighs.
For the weight, especially in fixed camp, a quintet is nice - folding knife, belt knife, multi-tool, axe, and saw of your choice. Good video discussing the concepts.
I was in Scouts in the 1960s and 70s. and then between 2000-2009. A lot of changes occurred over the decades, and not for the better. I reintroduced a lot of skills that had been lost. Been in the woods most of my life. My EDC is either an SAK or BSA folding knife. I’m not a multitool kind of guy. I don’t use pliers much at home or in the woods. My fixed blade is either a Scandi or v grind. A blacksmith friend made me several knives. But my beloved hatchet has now been retired much of the time and here is why. If the wood is dead I either break it or saw it. If the wood is green I either saw it or chop it. And my fires tend to be small. I only process what I can get by with, especially since I can add long pieces to a small fire. The fact is for me a fire is usually for a quick meal, and second for warmth. I don’t need to buck up a lot. Clearing branches and brush, fire management and digging a cat hole are necessary tasks whether on a hike, overnight or 3 day campout. I find my Cold Steel shovel with a shortened handle to be very handy, and is an okay hammer. I have recently cut down a long machete and modified it to replace the shovel for hikes and over nighters. I’m looking forward to getting outdoors again. I put few stakes in the ground anymore and mostly during car camping. I find generally speaking that what you decide to eat will determine what kind of mess kit ( still use my BSA kit a lot), and what kind of fire you will make, and what tools to bring. I use my SAK and BSA knife a lot. I try and get by with the least and lightest kit when I have to carry it. The Scout haversack was my first pack. Dead of Summer it sort of worked, but to small for a 3 day campout when backpacking. I latter went to the Yucca pack, and then a Kelly frame pack, and then to an Alice pack with military down bag. Alice is still my girl. And down is my preferred insulated kit. A wool military shirt is very useful. I enjoy your channel.
I think the hatchet absolutely still has a place. There's just nothing better for breaking down big chunks of wood, and it lets you abandon batoning and carry a belt knife with a thinner blade that is more useful for a wider range of slicing tasks.
I see them as concepts not specific items. Basically a fine work cutting tool (or multi-tool), heavier work tool and a wood processing tool(s). It can be adapted to the area you are working in. I've noticed the Japanese bushcrafters typcally carry a saw and a Japanese style hatchet(nata) together.
No tool is ever "outdated" or "obsolete" if theres a need for it. I still use 100+ uear old tools in my wood shop regularly and I carry a pair of knives when hunting/camping that my Grandfather carried in WWII and was habded down to him by his grandfather (a similar old bail-end folder and a fixed blade).
I'm a old trapper and would be lost without a hatchet or my knives ! I can't see any since in beating a good knife like a wood wedge .
i have carried a mora classic 2, a case trapper and a Norlund bay Hudson pattern axe for years and will for the rest of my life. no issues and will always work.
Swiss Army knife was the predecessor of the scout knife.
I have had different experiences with Swiss Army knives than some others have had. I read and hear honorific praise for them. So, I tried. Three Swiss Army knives later, my findings a different than what I had expected. They came apart, every one of them. I found them to be gadgets that never stood up. I was disappointed.
Pounding with a hatchet - or an axe - can be very handy. It can also ruin some of them. The thickness and kind of metal in the steel wall that holds the handle may very well not be built to withstand the pounding. Some hatchets and axes will bend the metal surrounding the handle, and widen the hole. If not properly reinforced, the hole can become wider, the handle loosen, the head wobble. It becomes use,essentially and dangerous.
I'm in the camp that takes a multitool with needlenose pliers and a wirecutter. I'm not good with knots, so I use wire to hold limbs together for framing a shelter. I like a ring-locking No. 8 Opinel folder for food preparation but I don't think folders have a strong enough joint to stand up to serious pioneer work. There are 'Outers' who use a small woodcarving hatchet for slicing as well as for chopping wood. Some of them don't feel the need to bring a straight knife. I DO like a Silky folding saw that is sized to cut the smaller diameter trunks that I would use for shelter building and for fire making.
Carry my Case Trapper every day - never let me down. Great video!!!!!!
I take a Pocket knife, a Swiss Army Deluxe Tinker, and old school Gerber Multi Pliers, with full sized Jaws, a belt knife and I have many to choose from, a Saw, in my case the Stanley Folding Pocket saw that uses 6 inch blades. And lastly, a Hatchet or Tomahawk, I have a few of those to choose from. I like having the right tool for the job.
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When I was a young boy, my father ensured I had a pocket knife at all times. When in the woods, I had a belt knife and a hatchet in addition to my pocket knife. I have learned to appreciate saws with my SAKS and silky, but for decades, I never needed them out there. They do make some things easier to accomplish. However, I can’t imagine not having a hatchet or small axe in the wilderness. There are so many things a saw just can’t do as well. But, I have a saw on almost every multi tool I have, and the silky is a beast, so I doubt I would ever be without either these days, if I had a choice. Thanks for the video.
Nicely said, Mr. Dyer and I agree with your thoughts.