thats because the government and ones in control are untouchable, as we have seen even bigger crimes by them, in the past 3 years. but they are above the law. after all they make the laws an ban everything and passed a law giving them , we cant do any wrong. people need to wake up, to take the public's attention off the last ordeal, they right away pull off another to distract the public from the one before, it is still going on today, even stronger
For those wondering, MAJOR screwups occurred in the government that caused this to be significantly worse than it was. As a result, without any political hay to be made by either side, the whole story was basically dropped and forgotten. Canadians are reliant on the government for security, healthcare, childcare, education, etc. We don't tend to direct our ire towards our government when it fails, because we view it as an extension of ourselves. Because of this, there is little recourse for those effected by government failures, and little momentum to bring serious reform.
Every year since, I place 23 white crosses with blue or pink ribbon for each person including the baby, on my front lawn. I will never forget them. I personally don't know any of the victims, but I don't want them to be forgotten. R.I.P. YOU ARE ALL LOVED.
She “woke up the communications officer” the night of the mass shootings says a lot….. Bottom line, RCMP was and continues to be ill-equipped to deal with any type of “scary” ordeal in which they are supposed to be our front line of defense, hence the reason why citizens should be trained to be able to protect ourselves with firearms; communication with all law enforcement would’ve been absolute key in this complete debacle and failure of Nova Scotia residents…..
Your remark “they [RCMP] are supposed to be our front line of defense” says everything you need to know about the servile Canadian mindset. YOU are YOUR OWN First Responder. Justine Castreau ain’t gonna be there for you when the chips are down. Y’all need to find your backbones, stand up on your hind legs, and demand your natural right to possess the tools of self defense.
RE: Wortman as a police informant. The MCC did nothing to clear up this question. RCMP policies are very clear that informant details should almost never be made public - they are instructed to lie unless there are specific circumstances (criminal trial and they are under oath). None of that applied here to my knowledge. Most interesting support for this was the date Wortman was on with a woman at his apartment. Late in the evening a police officer walks into his apartment without knocking (apparently believing Wortman is alone). Some story is made up why he is in the “neighborhood”, then the two go outside to talk for a few minutes.
Understanding Lisa Banfield is difficult because the relationship between an abuser and his victim is extremely complicated. Abusers are expert manipulators. Step by patient step they destroy the victims sense of self. They deny and then they give, they punish and then reward, and in the end they have someone who simply does and no longer thinks because the abuser is totally in control of every aspect of their lives. In essence they have become a human robot and will act absolutely as the abuser wants. So, we simply ask, “Why did you do that why didn’t you run away?” The question is simple and the answer is almost incomprehensible? I understand it academically but emotionally I find it impossible to comprehend.
Doug, do some research into this tragedy. Read "22 Murders" by Paul Palango. Lisa Banfield is not the innocent victim the RCMP and MEDIA are portraying. She was well aware of Gabriel Wortman's activities and was even complicent to some degree. She admitted she was with Wortman when he received payment from the Brink's Depository in Dartmouth on March 29/2020, 19 days before his rampage. She also was with Wortman when he smuggled a handgun into Canada.... she admitted this to the RCMP as well. She was also charged by the RCMP with providing Wortman with ammunition after his rampage. She was "Known by Police" and had many dealings with them over the years. Her story of being handcuffed in the back seat of a replica cruiser and escaping into the woods and staying outside in freezing tempatures until 6:30 a.m. is complete BULLSHIT. Witness Leon Joudrey contradicted her statements and disbelieved her from the get go. There is also the matter of Wortman's Wealth.... he was very wealthy and there is monies unaccounted for. What does Lisa know about that I wonder?! Doug, she is not an innocent victim in this matter..... far from it. Also, why did the RCMP fight against her testimony at the M.C.C. so hard. Gabriel Wortman was a bi-sexual man and had many man lovers..... Lisa Banfield was aware of this fact. She was his "Beard," this is a huge factor in the story as well.
Remarkable that this lunatic was able to pull off such a crime spree over such a time period. Incredible that he could gain access to a police vehicle and uniform. Banfield should be held accountable too. She knew what he was like and what was going on, yet did nothing. Shameful pathetic person.
Yeah that's what I wanna know too. How did Gabriel manage to get all this equipment and police uniform etc.. even with previous charges against him over the years... like this is fishy to this day.
Rest in peace to the victims, this was such a terrible crime. Overlooked in the revisiting of this incident is that he purchased the firearm illegally, in the US, then brought it back to Canada. If boarder services had been notified of the report that he possibly had an illegal firearm, then maybe they could have conducted a search of his car in one or more of the 15 trips he made to the US, and stopped him from commiting this atrocity.
Also overlooked is the fact that Canada essentially criminalizes the possession of the tools of personal protection. Forget guns ... Canadians face 10 yrs in prison just for carrying a PEPPER SPRAY in public. “Canada nice”? Pffft ... 🙄
Complicated situation, and it isn't surprising police were overwhelmed by it -- night time, houses attacked, unfamiliar country roads the killer was familiar with. The fact he was driving a police cruiser was diabolical, and so confusing for police and everyone. The ball was dropped much earlier on when this guy was allowed to cross the border so many times to buy guns and not be investigated and his guns removed. No excuse for RCMP not using the alert system in a timely manner. No excuse for poor communication with the families after the fact. It seems the area was understaffed to deal with this, and not trained for it as well. It could happen again, and even if you had a gun at home for self defense you wouldn't know what was coming. One lesson learned -- pay attention to people who are violent, including domestic violence.
Those shooting warning are useless. In my area there was a police shooting and alert went out that it was in the township. Which did not tell me it was four block from where I live.
I hope the RCMP have learned to actually use the emergency alert system now, could have saved lives if they’d actually used it, would have sent an alert to everyone’s phones.
When civilians enter a crime scene any remaining evidence is trashed by their presences. Police should use what ever means necessary to keep civilians out of crime scenes . When a crime scene is contaminated by outside presence the criminal can get away . The evidence will be thrown out .
Narcissistic abuse to family members not a shock. Someone who is down to plan and then murder more about 13 ppl pprobably doesnt have the best focus on empathy
When only one woman is being offered so much advice from professionals while she is at the same time being expected to make so many decisions on her own to protect herself; children and all of the people who live in the same municipal areas she lives in too a whole lot can happen while there are so many other people around who are not trained police at all who became just as concerned after they heard of an amber alert. The police woman was in a situation way too complicated for her to survive. What is a woman to do when she is not a trained police officer at all while more than one professional is advising her to offer up all of the responsibility for the caring of 4 children whom she was acting as a caring step mother to. When she already knows about his obsessive love of collecting both guns and vehicles.
Some NS people are disgusting for trying to blame it all on the shooter's abused partner who is innocent. The RCMP officer Greg Wiley visited the shooter 16 times that should have been big of a red flag to investigate the background of the shooter. Also only 13k views this should blow up how come I didn't know of this till now.
Here in the US, Wortman likely wouldn’t have made it to five houses without being shot by one of his intended victims. But you don’t need guns, Canadians. Justine Castreau has your six ...
@@rickyrickardo3445 “Canada further restricted the rights of non-criminals within days of a criminal’s crime spree.” NOT the mark of a free people. Meanwhile, we have over 1-1/2 million defensive gun uses by lawfully armed citizens a year. A few of them even stop /prevent a mass shooting. THAT’S how it’s done.
Tfw putting ppl in power that have no business there look at the shooting in texas recently. Tfw oof tfw 3 hours for a tweet it's only like 125 characters
I can't believe people are so narrow minded to believe this is the work of one person. COME ON, THINK ABOUT IT, they silenced him at a gas station, used him as a scapegoat, it was a horrible thing, everyone wants to believe whatever makes them sleep better at night.
All Canada ever does is inquiries and nothing ever comes from them. People have to be held accountable for these mistakes
thats because the government and ones in control are untouchable, as we have seen even bigger crimes by them, in the past 3 years. but they are above the law. after all they make the laws an ban everything and passed a law giving them , we cant do any wrong. people need to wake up, to take the public's attention off the last ordeal, they right away pull off another to distract the public from the one before, it is still going on today, even stronger
Canadians need to stand up on their hind legs and demand their rights to possess the tools of self defense again.
You are your own First Responder.
The rcmp are to blame for this
@@PanhandleFrank That's ridiculous.
@@rca6576 Do you really think that law-abiding Canadians SHOULDN'T be allowed to own and carry the tools of self defense?
RCMP dropped the ball at every damn step and there’s 23 grieving families now
RIP Leon Jodrey.
It's bizarre how little this extremely deadly act is talked about in Canada
For those wondering, MAJOR screwups occurred in the government that caused this to be significantly worse than it was. As a result, without any political hay to be made by either side, the whole story was basically dropped and forgotten.
Canadians are reliant on the government for security, healthcare, childcare, education, etc. We don't tend to direct our ire towards our government when it fails, because we view it as an extension of ourselves. Because of this, there is little recourse for those effected by government failures, and little momentum to bring serious reform.
Every year since, I place 23 white crosses with blue or pink ribbon for each person including the baby, on my front lawn. I will never forget them. I personally don't know any of the victims, but I don't want them to be forgotten. R.I.P. YOU ARE ALL LOVED.
She “woke up the communications officer” the night of the mass shootings says a lot…..
Bottom line, RCMP was and continues to be ill-equipped to deal with any type of “scary” ordeal in which they are supposed to be our front line of defense, hence the reason why citizens should be trained to be able to protect ourselves with firearms; communication with all law enforcement would’ve been absolute key in this complete debacle and failure of Nova Scotia residents…..
Your remark “they [RCMP] are supposed to be our front line of defense” says everything you need to know about the servile Canadian mindset.
YOU are YOUR OWN First Responder. Justine Castreau ain’t gonna be there for you when the chips are down. Y’all need to find your backbones, stand up on your hind legs, and demand your natural right to possess the tools of self defense.
RE: Wortman as a police informant.
The MCC did nothing to clear up this question. RCMP policies are very clear that informant details should almost never be made public - they are instructed to lie unless there are specific circumstances (criminal trial and they are under oath). None of that applied here to my knowledge.
Most interesting support for this was the date Wortman was on with a woman at his apartment. Late in the evening a police officer walks into his apartment without knocking (apparently believing Wortman is alone). Some story is made up why he is in the “neighborhood”, then the two go outside to talk for a few minutes.
where did you find that info??? have you been watching the streams by little grey cells?
Source of this info?
Understanding Lisa Banfield is difficult because the relationship between an abuser and his victim is extremely complicated. Abusers are expert manipulators. Step by patient step they destroy the victims sense of self. They deny and then they give, they punish and then reward, and in the end they have someone who simply does and no longer thinks because the abuser is totally in control of every aspect of their lives. In essence they have become a human robot and will act absolutely as the abuser wants. So, we simply ask, “Why did you do that why didn’t you run away?” The question is simple and the answer is almost incomprehensible? I understand it academically but emotionally I find it impossible to comprehend.
Doug, do some research into this tragedy. Read "22 Murders" by Paul Palango. Lisa Banfield is not the innocent victim the RCMP and MEDIA are portraying. She was well aware of Gabriel Wortman's activities and was even complicent to some degree. She admitted she was with Wortman when he received payment from the Brink's Depository in Dartmouth on March 29/2020, 19 days before his rampage. She also was with Wortman when he smuggled a handgun into Canada.... she admitted this to the RCMP as well. She was also charged by the RCMP with providing Wortman with ammunition after his rampage. She was "Known by Police" and had many dealings with them over the years. Her story of being handcuffed in the back seat of a replica cruiser and escaping into the woods and staying outside in freezing tempatures until 6:30 a.m. is complete BULLSHIT. Witness Leon Joudrey contradicted her statements and disbelieved her from the get go. There is also the matter of Wortman's Wealth.... he was very wealthy and there is monies unaccounted for. What does Lisa know about that I wonder?! Doug, she is not an innocent victim in this matter..... far from it. Also, why did the RCMP fight against her testimony at the M.C.C. so hard. Gabriel Wortman was a bi-sexual man and had many man lovers..... Lisa Banfield was aware of this fact. She was his "Beard," this is a huge factor in the story as well.
I'm still wondering why there was no apparent investigation into reports that he had a cache of weapons. This would have prevented this tragedy.
He would have gotten the weapons some how, what would have really stopped him would have been one of the victims with a gun
Rest in Peace to all the victims. ❤️
Thank you for this summary. This was very well done. I wish we had more answers.
Remarkable that this lunatic was able to pull off such a crime spree over such a time period. Incredible that he could gain access to a police vehicle and uniform. Banfield should be held accountable too. She knew what he was like and what was going on, yet did nothing. Shameful pathetic person.
Yeah that's what I wanna know too. How did Gabriel manage to get all this equipment and police uniform etc.. even with previous charges against him over the years... like this is fishy to this day.
Rest in peace to the victims, this was such a terrible crime. Overlooked in the revisiting of this incident is that he purchased the firearm illegally, in the US, then brought it back to Canada. If boarder services had been notified of the report that he possibly had an illegal firearm, then maybe they could have conducted a search of his car in one or more of the 15 trips he made to the US, and stopped him from commiting this atrocity.
Also overlooked is the fact that Canada essentially criminalizes the possession of the tools of personal protection. Forget guns ... Canadians face 10 yrs in prison just for carrying a PEPPER SPRAY in public.
“Canada nice”? Pffft ... 🙄
Complicated situation, and it isn't surprising police were overwhelmed by it -- night time, houses attacked, unfamiliar country roads the killer was familiar with. The fact he was driving a police cruiser was diabolical, and so confusing for police and everyone. The ball was dropped much earlier on when this guy was allowed to cross the border so many times to buy guns and not be investigated and his guns removed. No excuse for RCMP not using the alert system in a timely manner. No excuse for poor communication with the families after the fact. It seems the area was understaffed to deal with this, and not trained for it as well. It could happen again, and even if you had a gun at home for self defense you wouldn't know what was coming. One lesson learned -- pay attention to people who are violent, including domestic violence.
You summarized the situation quite well in this comment.
CONCLUSION:
1. Canadians may not defend themselves.
2. The Canadian gubmint ain’t gonna protect you either.
Oh well ... 🤷🏼♂️
Could have just said " the rcmp did not know how to handle the situation" and left it at that
..
Those shooting warning are useless. In my area there was a police shooting and alert went out that it was in the township. Which did not tell me it was four block from where I live.
I hope the RCMP have learned to actually use the emergency alert system now, could have saved lives if they’d actually used it, would have sent an alert to everyone’s phones.
When civilians enter a crime scene any remaining evidence is trashed by their presences. Police should use what ever means necessary to keep civilians out of crime scenes . When a crime scene is contaminated by outside presence the criminal can get away . The evidence will be thrown out .
Narcissistic abuse to family members not a shock. Someone who is down to plan and then murder more about 13 ppl pprobably doesnt have the best focus on empathy
When only one woman is being offered so much advice from professionals while she is at the same time being expected to make so many decisions on her own to protect herself; children and all of the people who live in the same municipal areas she lives in too a whole lot can happen while there are so many other people around who are not trained police at all who became just as concerned after they heard of an amber alert. The police woman was in a situation way too complicated for her to survive. What is a woman to do when she is not a trained police officer at all while more than one professional is advising her to offer up all of the responsibility for the caring of 4 children whom she was acting as a caring step mother to. When she already knows about his obsessive love of collecting both guns and vehicles.
Some NS people are disgusting for trying to blame it all on the shooter's abused partner who is innocent. The RCMP officer Greg Wiley visited the shooter 16 times that should have been big of a red flag to investigate the background of the shooter. Also only 13k views this should blow up how come I didn't know of this till now.
Your neighbor, USA, has plenty of experience in how to handle stuff like this v_v
Here in the US, Wortman likely wouldn’t have made it to five houses without being shot by one of his intended victims.
But you don’t need guns, Canadians. Justine Castreau has your six ...
You have a portapique in a school every year or two. Canada tightened gun laws within days of portapique. You have no solutions.
@@rickyrickardo3445 “Canada further restricted the rights of non-criminals within days of a criminal’s crime spree.”
NOT the mark of a free people.
Meanwhile, we have over 1-1/2 million defensive gun uses by lawfully armed citizens a year. A few of them even stop /prevent a mass shooting.
THAT’S how it’s done.
@@rickyrickardo3445 It's satire because the USA does nothing
@@rickyrickardo3445Virtue signaling won't help things improve.
Alert system never is used unless
Are you going to blame the wife of gf??
He was a rat and the cops protected him. Plain and simple. Big surprise
I am reserved on Lisa ,or more so the conditions of Lisa
You will shed that hope because that’s a game too for victim abusers /harmers
26 weeks of training at regina for rcmp recruits. Disgraceful.
It’s more than perception; it’s a fact.
NEVER AGAIN
Wait
i just watched what happened an o m g them poor familys an friends.
this whole situation was a complete mess with the police an all..
Why speak out when these ppl can hurt u in ways I dont see coming as in low empathy as in nothing is 2 low
Their own personal discretion
So they actually set up around those kids wow, 5th estate documentary on it dad wasn't sure if there were police outside house
Another polite canuck?😲
RIP her. Rip real humans
Tfw humans not listening to details from the rabble. Tfw broken world
16 ?
Low empathy is here in calgary racism is part of their freedom though I think much differently
You bet
Ramp is the biggest joke in ns!! This shows!!
canada wide brother...
They know the gig to victims ,games played
The gunman was in charge
Tfw putting ppl in power that have no business there look at the shooting in texas recently. Tfw oof tfw 3 hours for a tweet it's only like 125 characters
misogyny.
Save the tears
Intentionally harming families ,hahaha
I can't believe people are so narrow minded to believe this is the work of one person. COME ON, THINK ABOUT IT, they silenced him at a gas station, used him as a scapegoat, it was a horrible thing, everyone wants to believe whatever makes them sleep better at night.
They knew 5 minutes after the first killing,coverup