3:54 A thing you're Missing is That Card moving is a huge Part of him it skyrockets His damage. His old passive crit Chance increase can still be achieved by moving the Card. And now He also gets 120% crit damage
I mean you’re correct, specifically for a showcase, and that is how he works best, but at the same time giving up a move just for that stat increase feels bad, like in this setup instead of getting a stack of darkness and like probably a Meli card’s worth of damage most times you get nothing but a stat bump, and like yeah it’s a good stat bump but is it good enough to outweigh everything you’d get by playing normally? Especially when he’s not like the only dps on the team? Feels like especially with Gelda that card usage matters way more, but I could totally be wrong, especially cause who needs more cards if they’re dead, but in general I think it’s really only consistently worth if you’re merging cards for a rank up on him
The thing is buffing zeldris neglects the rest of the team’s kit like dk meli. There’s little point in buffing zel anyways since it’s easy to kill him in one turn
whilst u are cery much correct, the main issue still remains - survivability. If and when Assult Meli gets his eventual LR he should have dmg reduction teamwide for demons/commandments (which he works with anyway). I'd say for rn, 30% should be a long lasting value to go with.
@Khristolfhur well a fix to this although probably kind of cope. Is you could use demon chandler to counter and direct attention to himself. Of course AoEs are still a thing but idk I just love zeldris and also AM meli is my favorite meli so it was just my excitement lol
@Khristolfhur I agree lol just thinking of different teams and ofc there will always be pros and cons lol but i love the new zeldris can't wait to get him
Note: they gave LR Zeldris drain on his single target for the sake of activating his relic (mainly useful in longform PVE fights like Demonic Beast battles or DK).
I’m curious, would putting green merlin in the back actually be quite good for Zel. I say this because, if his commandment counts as ‘Zeldris removing ult gauge’ then it would apply to his passive, so when you move a card first turn, you actually reduce ult gauge, even if you didn’t combine. Run that with Gowther, and honestly, a rank 2 aoe might just team wipe, and a rank 2 buffed single target should by right kill any one target turn one. Just a thought experiment though, and the cc loss would probably make it only a team that’s possible to run as a whale. But hey, an idea, right?
They had released Arthur ~3 weeks ago and now netmarble decided to release his full counter, I meant the only problem of demons was the first 1 - 2 turns they basically just stacking darkness and the only way for humans to win against them was to kill estatossa in the 1 turn and kill others in the second, but now we have exacly that demon, which can deal damage in the 1 - 2 turns => no weaknesses at all, great job devs, IG when u buff humans, u straight away recall purg ban and his 6/6 huge brain tactic
I mean to procl debufs is easy. Sub estarossa for gelda, then put green sariel on her. You instantly get debufs every turn and hitting that extra 80%. Also moving his cards has huge benefit if you get 3 cards for him turn 1 you instantly get +90% and then you’d at least get 15% from his holy relic. Worst comes to worst just ult the next turn assuming he Dosent die.
@@drakondsilvers1404 well you don’t replace DK meli what makes you think you’d replace the strongest character in the game? Also grey debufs don’t count towards his passive.
You didn't move Zeldris' cards at all. That's how he does big damage. His passive is that he gains crit chance/damage by moving cards. You talk about his passive but never actually do it in your showcase! You're not playing him correctly and yet you're saying "He could have been a better unit".
Lol I kinda like the limitations you hate, especially the move card to get crit dmg buff. It makes him feel different from other characters, it's like he is charging a gun by moving card then firing it with his spike card.
I think Escanor is fine being as specific as he is, at least so far as in he is also PvE viable for stonks of dmg, and I think he has held up in the Meta and still seems like a usable character with Arthur, so not quite dead. He's actually been my favorite and I prob am biased XD LR Liz "I PVE GOD, GO BRRR"... need we say more. Then Lost Vayne, who had the annoying issue of still being kinda mid in PvE and required a bit a support in PvP, but he did admittedly rule over after the LR And with the Relic makes him still a really fun Nuke. Glox, while maybe you could argue he lacks the supporting team to shine (Fairies and Giant sperg when?) I actually think all his power comes from the Relic, he did admittedly get a fair bit changed to better him, but it wasn't done well, it just makes me think "Why didn't you fucking use the better Glox?" who honestly had way more potential. Give him top-tier utility/heal card, turn his AoE into a DMG based Fes Gow debuff, stack those debuffs 5 at a time, then Ruin would make a bit more sense... OH but wait they put the decrease in Stats AFTER the damage on his ult right?! "Oi, shall we apply debuffs for an ult that removes debuffs for huge Dmg before or after it does its shit? Oh and it's a single target." and the two remaining developers stared at each other with cold, dead eyes, lost in the nightmare of endless labour... And now we have this bullshit. Only to be outdone by Margaret, who I can only surmise as "They did stuff?... oh yea, I guess they did"
nag: zeldris has so much flaws they make the lrs bad zeldris: one shots or almost every unit, doesnt have any restrictions or whatever and can be used in pbe fully stacking his 90% crit dmg pasive and be an omega dps idk feels pretty good to me 👍
@@lupus_aeterna7793 not so much about the DMG, he just doesn't bring much to the table. Why use him if you have God Meli and DK. DK supports the team with DMG reduction has a similar aoe and is more consistent. LR Zeldris won't last long if he doesn't get a buff or some changes
@@skrrrt1307 he will have his use later that’s for sure maybe not now but maybe on later when meta changes or when a pve mode would require a character such as him.
If you need to debuff them in order to get more damage with your zeldris then why not just put green sariel on one of your units; sure your losing the stats you gain from having red sariel but you gain the debuffs that you need for zeldris to pop-off
So I have the same gear lvl 100 zeldris not lr and no holy relic. Your first two attacks are over 100-200k. Mine are usually around 20k a 2 star zeldris ability I’m lucky if it’s 50k. What am I missing does he have to be paired with other people are is having the lr and holy relic the difference. Really want to like zeldris but he does nothing and idk why.
Nagato why not use hp/crit armor on zeldris. Then switch Meli to the left and put zeldris on right. Also doesn’t both zeldris and estarossa artifacts co op together? They both sound like they’d be good together and then hp/crit for the long game with zeldris
Festarossa give debuffs? DK meli gives debuffs? You can literally run any Sin with this team instead of festa? Run Gold liz if you feel like it. Zelris is a first turn pvp only, after that ditch him and focus using your toher two units. Gold Liz can keep him alive a bit longer, just take a little longer to build her stacks
yeah no way he's dethroning DK Zeldris.Honestly, I hope they step up their LR releases, the last 3 LRs are all mid (Margaret didnt even changed, they just gave her crit res decrease, Glox is Whale heavy and Zeldris is a glas canon) LV was somewhat good on release, Escanor and Liz got the best treatment so far imo.
Demons are just kind of a boring team tbh. What the point of having the race, and the Ten Commandments, when all you're going to do is run the same Meliodas, Estarossa, and Zeldris units. Zeldris is just somewhat evolving from Nebula, to DK, to this. Meliodas updates every few months to being a new unit that hits slightly harder than the last. And Estarossa is a race check for Cusack. Gelda is unironically so much more exciting cuz its a new named unit.
isnt it weird how we have the human race which is always involving a ban or an escanor? the goddess race that always has a liz? is the point of humans outside of 7ds just be shit units? are the four archangels forever be niche and just pve units? why not we just all run unknown teams then?
@@cyzygy my thought was Estarossa, Glox and Zeldris where you AOE with both Glox and Zeldris in the start to build estarossa stacks and survive thanks to HP increase + Glox 30% defense related stats and next turn you either get a Zeldris AOE or you can use the Glox single target and just murder them, again im not sure if this is just copium to see Glox being used somehow
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zeldris is the new AM meli- always leaves the enemy at 1% hp
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3:54 A thing you're Missing is That Card moving is a huge Part of him it skyrockets His damage. His old passive crit Chance increase can still be achieved by moving the Card. And now He also gets 120% crit damage
He talks about it all along the video
He only does it 1 time tho Hes using him wrong
I mean you’re correct, specifically for a showcase, and that is how he works best, but at the same time giving up a move just for that stat increase feels bad, like in this setup instead of getting a stack of darkness and like probably a Meli card’s worth of damage most times you get nothing but a stat bump, and like yeah it’s a good stat bump but is it good enough to outweigh everything you’d get by playing normally? Especially when he’s not like the only dps on the team? Feels like especially with Gelda that card usage matters way more, but I could totally be wrong, especially cause who needs more cards if they’re dead, but in general I think it’s really only consistently worth if you’re merging cards for a rank up on him
The thing is buffing zeldris neglects the rest of the team’s kit like dk meli. There’s little point in buffing zel anyways since it’s easy to kill him in one turn
HOLY SHIT CRIT BLUE ZLEDRIS IS ACTUALLY NOT A JOKE ANYMORE!!!
He likes leaving a lot of units at 1%
He is he leaves everyone at 1 hp
Nag : 1:46 dont let estarossa's commandement
Also nag : 8:57
😅
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16:15 I kid not when I say Merlin enjoyed every bit of that Meli pounding
You are working under the assumption that the devs think
Should use him with AM meli. Cause AM meli applies debuffs and he'll take some of the targeting because he has to get hit
Oh shit you're kinda spitting...
whilst u are cery much correct, the main issue still remains - survivability. If and when Assult Meli gets his eventual LR he should have dmg reduction teamwide for demons/commandments (which he works with anyway). I'd say for rn, 30% should be a long lasting value to go with.
@Khristolfhur well a fix to this although probably kind of cope. Is you could use demon chandler to counter and direct attention to himself. Of course AoEs are still a thing but idk I just love zeldris and also AM meli is my favorite meli so it was just my excitement lol
@@DanielVega-mr8tl i like both too, but with how prevalent AOE attacks are i dont think chandler will matter all that much.
@Khristolfhur I agree lol just thinking of different teams and ofc there will always be pros and cons lol but i love the new zeldris can't wait to get him
Note: they gave LR Zeldris drain on his single target for the sake of activating his relic (mainly useful in longform PVE fights like Demonic Beast battles or DK).
I’m curious, would putting green merlin in the back actually be quite good for Zel. I say this because, if his commandment counts as ‘Zeldris removing ult gauge’ then it would apply to his passive, so when you move a card first turn, you actually reduce ult gauge, even if you didn’t combine. Run that with Gowther, and honestly, a rank 2 aoe might just team wipe, and a rank 2 buffed single target should by right kill any one target turn one. Just a thought experiment though, and the cc loss would probably make it only a team that’s possible to run as a whale. But hey, an idea, right?
They had released Arthur ~3 weeks ago and now netmarble decided to release his full counter, I meant the only problem of demons was the first 1 - 2 turns they basically just stacking darkness and the only way for humans to win against them was to kill estatossa in the 1 turn and kill others in the second, but now we have exacly that demon, which can deal damage in the 1 - 2 turns => no weaknesses at all, great job devs, IG when u buff humans, u straight away recall purg ban and his 6/6 huge brain tactic
bro complains about lack of debuffs
green sariel: exists
This is exactly what I was thinking 😅
Bro cant see red sariel on zel😊
red sariel helps so much for zel’s damage though
@@nine_fox_foundationhow does it prevents you from using GREEN sariel on anyone, and mael link on zel?)
@@Spvrky_05yeah but guess what, you don't get his debuff card, and you loose more damage than you receive from red sar
almonst never moves cards with zeldris while zeldris showcase.
dude you get 120% crit dmg and +30% up to +90 if you loose ult
YES EXACTLY NAG IS LIKE: "I DON'T WANNA PLAY THE CHARACTER LIKE HE IS INTENDED TO SO HE IS BAD 😤"
@@Silvanohnerizz plus if you move two times, you get another 120% crit dmg, basicly 2 times moving you have 240% crit dmg
Yeah he's a damn nuke
10:55 Lmao, Estarossa commandment took the crit chance buff and zeldris still crit.
Combine it with unknown team, tyr brings debuff, nanashi removes ulti, and albedo protect
I'm crying I made glox lr 2 days ago and now he is in 😭
Why would use your coins on Lr glox tho 😭
nah bruh you always knew glox was shit 😭
Oh nah, you gotta firm that ngl😭
@@enielsantiago2710 for box cc
@@Spvrky_05 I didn't know, I was lazy and didn't watch allat bout him 😭
Try using monspiet for the debuffs, It would be really Nice for zeldris
He’s meant to 1 shot first turn he’s like a ban for the demon team
he's a 3rd rate duelist with a 4th rate deck
I mean to procl debufs is easy. Sub estarossa for gelda, then put green sariel on her. You instantly get debufs every turn and hitting that extra 80%. Also moving his cards has huge benefit if you get 3 cards for him turn 1 you instantly get +90% and then you’d at least get 15% from his holy relic. Worst comes to worst just ult the next turn assuming he Dosent die.
DK Meli passive is guaranteed grey debuff, why even bother?
@@drakondsilvers1404 well you don’t replace DK meli what makes you think you’d replace the strongest character in the game? Also grey debufs don’t count towards his passive.
You didn't move Zeldris' cards at all. That's how he does big damage. His passive is that he gains crit chance/damage by moving cards. You talk about his passive but never actually do it in your showcase! You're not playing him correctly and yet you're saying "He could have been a better unit".
We are getting box cc with this one
He could also be runable in nidhoggr next to meli... idk I made him for cc and cuz I had like 200 seals
Wouldn't a team like Lr Zeldris, Gelda and Red Melascula work really well especially if you have melsacula's relic?
assuming mela doesn’t instantly die to ban or meli yeah
@@cyzygy yeah true I mean she can life steal like crazy and that gets gelda going quicker
Lol I kinda like the limitations you hate, especially the move card to get crit dmg buff. It makes him feel different from other characters, it's like he is charging a gun by moving card then firing it with his spike card.
Exactly, they did what LR Character should be. A drastically improved Version of His old Idea.. And that is exactly what He is
I’m liking zeldris icl
if you move two times with zeldris ,ou get 240% crit dmg, really good if you have 2x aoe to combine then move again and use it with 240% crit dmg
Zerodoris such a Great drip My boy has!
I think Escanor is fine being as specific as he is, at least so far as in he is also PvE viable for stonks of dmg, and I think he has held up in the Meta and still seems like a usable character with Arthur, so not quite dead. He's actually been my favorite and I prob am biased XD
LR Liz "I PVE GOD, GO BRRR"... need we say more.
Then Lost Vayne, who had the annoying issue of still being kinda mid in PvE and required a bit a support in PvP, but he did admittedly rule over after the LR And with the Relic makes him still a really fun Nuke.
Glox, while maybe you could argue he lacks the supporting team to shine (Fairies and Giant sperg when?) I actually think all his power comes from the Relic, he did admittedly get a fair bit changed to better him, but it wasn't done well, it just makes me think "Why didn't you fucking use the better Glox?" who honestly had way more potential. Give him top-tier utility/heal card, turn his AoE into a DMG based Fes Gow debuff, stack those debuffs 5 at a time, then Ruin would make a bit more sense... OH but wait they put the decrease in Stats AFTER the damage on his ult right?! "Oi, shall we apply debuffs for an ult that removes debuffs for huge Dmg before or after it does its shit? Oh and it's a single target." and the two remaining developers stared at each other with cold, dead eyes, lost in the nightmare of endless labour... And now we have this bullshit.
Only to be outdone by Margaret, who I can only surmise as "They did stuff?... oh yea, I guess they did"
Maybe use Gelda with g sariel grace for debuffs?
nag: zeldris has so much flaws they make the lrs bad
zeldris: one shots or almost every unit, doesnt have any restrictions or whatever and can be used in pbe fully stacking his 90% crit dmg pasive and be an omega dps
idk feels pretty good to me 👍
Please help can you tell how you can play 7ds jp on pc? Today i see the game is out of cervice and it tells me it is not supported in my country
I have a question whenever u unlock Tamriel relic does it pass on with the link
zel with green gowther + ludo when?
if only the pvp rule where you can use the same character returned it will be so good.
Im more excited about lr Zeldris then Chaos Arthur
It hurts that hes just nuts DPS, theres no way well be talking about him in 10 months time
all his other relevant versions are supports, what more can you ask for?
All we need now is Lr Estarossa
Imagin green estarossa with a stronger counter
still, Zeldris has the best LR costume
Awesome Video
You needa move his cards more nag.
Try monspeet for debuff I know it's not meta, but it could be a fun team, maybe?
He won’t benefit from ban passive but it would still be worth a try🤷🏽♂️
Hope they buff him tbh and give Gelda an effect on her aoe, idk what they where thinking with this
Buff?!
He's not doing good damage because nag isn't playing him correctly.
@@lupus_aeterna7793 not so much about the DMG, he just doesn't bring much to the table. Why use him if you have God Meli and DK. DK supports the team with DMG reduction has a similar aoe and is more consistent. LR Zeldris won't last long if he doesn't get a buff or some changes
@@gon6297 buff or some changes, he doesn't bring much to the table, not enough to replace god Meli, DK or anyone really
@@skrrrt1307 he will have his use later that’s for sure maybe not now but maybe on later when meta changes or when a pve mode would require a character such as him.
What is that wepon cosmetic on zeldris?
Would it be worth it to go full crit damage gear ?
My questions is, should i summon on Arthur now or not?
Green melascula for the 20% basic stats instead of esta
Wht best build for him?
If you need to debuff them in order to get more damage with your zeldris then why not just put green sariel on one of your units; sure your losing the stats you gain from having red sariel but you gain the debuffs that you need for zeldris to pop-off
So I have the same gear lvl 100 zeldris not lr and no holy relic. Your first two attacks are over 100-200k. Mine are usually around 20k a 2 star zeldris ability I’m lucky if it’s 50k. What am I missing does he have to be paired with other people are is having the lr and holy relic the difference. Really want to like zeldris but he does nothing and idk why.
why wouldnt u get the buff from killing weiht a single target, when estas holy relic removes ult gauge?
zeldris might be comp
Popular proverb Applicable in nagato
لا يعجبه العجب ولا الصيام في رجب
I think they plan to have festival LR's be broken unless they're already meta and normal LR's be mid.
USE THE OLD TEAM FOR HIM (LUDO G GOWTHER AND DEATH PIERCE) 🙏🏻
How about a team of AM Meliodas, LR Zeldris and LR Gloxinia ?
Nagato why not use hp/crit armor on zeldris. Then switch Meli to the left and put zeldris on right. Also doesn’t both zeldris and estarossa artifacts co op together? They both sound like they’d be good together and then hp/crit for the long game with zeldris
Doesnt monspeet commandment screw this guy over too if both monspeet and zeldris' commandement are active?
No???
so even with vpn now the game is not reposing at all and keep crashing how I fix.
How about hybrid unknown + demon with helda zeldris hella and nanasi?
If its debuffs thats the issue with zeldris, have another unit have green sariel link, debuffs for days
thez gave him the ult remove cuz of his relic
Right lol was so confused as to why he was complaining about the skill effect.
Festarossa give debuffs? DK meli gives debuffs? You can literally run any Sin with this team instead of festa? Run Gold liz if you feel like it. Zelris is a first turn pvp only, after that ditch him and focus using your toher two units. Gold Liz can keep him alive a bit longer, just take a little longer to build her stacks
Vid idea LR demon team zel Los meli and glox stuff one of the others in the back
Why not using Green Sariel Link on Meli to get AOE Debuff for Zeldris
zeldris relic has basic stat increase too?
hi nag
Run hendrickson or Monspeet with meli and zeldris
Bastard needs a buff like seriously
Do a og fun team and "try" to run ludo and gowther like the good old days lmao
When dose zeldra come out for global
Is it another time for Hendrickson?
Lr zeldris is just an link for dk meli 2 me just to abuse arthur just for more CC
Crazy how the one zeldris who got an LR is the ONLY zeldris I don't have☠️☠️
I forgive you, I also wanna see ooga booga damage
Video idea for fun: Use Zeldris with AM and estarossa/gelda with cusack in the back. AM can give basic stats and debuffs
Meli is so inconsistent it's just crazy, every time you use him in the first turns and such i get so disappointed every time
So is he better then demon king zeldris
King of darkness yes
Ill use tyr so i can attack with my 1hp left lol
Green Sariel Grace = easy debuff.
11:10 u sure?
yeah no way he's dethroning DK Zeldris.Honestly, I hope they step up their LR releases, the last 3 LRs are all mid (Margaret didnt even changed, they just gave her crit res decrease, Glox is Whale heavy and Zeldris is a glas canon)
LV was somewhat good on release, Escanor and Liz got the best treatment so far imo.
He's also Just completly using him and gelda wrong and callong them Bad lmao
@@Silvanohnerizzthis right here
Use him with AM Meli pls
Do Lr zeldris and Lr meliodas
Buff when?
Is it just me or does his cc seem kinda low
He's on atack crit, not hp defense in the video if that's what you mean
blue chandler might have a revival lol
Yeah but LR Glox was tooooooo op right 😐
Fuck the devs at this point, the just another EA company
Demons are just kind of a boring team tbh. What the point of having the race, and the Ten Commandments, when all you're going to do is run the same Meliodas, Estarossa, and Zeldris units. Zeldris is just somewhat evolving from Nebula, to DK, to this. Meliodas updates every few months to being a new unit that hits slightly harder than the last. And Estarossa is a race check for Cusack.
Gelda is unironically so much more exciting cuz its a new named unit.
isnt it weird how we have the human race which is always involving a ban or an escanor? the goddess race that always has a liz? is the point of humans outside of 7ds just be shit units? are the four archangels forever be niche and just pve units? why not we just all run unknown teams then?
Man goddes without LR Margaret is boring and the team do lest damage
Drip to hard😂
Im not sure if im huffing copium but maybe running Glox with Zeldris is the play idk?
glox doesn’t really do anything for zel aside from debuffs, no reason to do it
@@cyzygy my thought was Estarossa, Glox and Zeldris where you AOE with both Glox and Zeldris in the start to build estarossa stacks and survive thanks to HP increase + Glox 30% defense related stats and next turn you either get a Zeldris AOE or you can use the Glox single target and just murder them, again im not sure if this is just copium to see Glox being used somehow
meliodas assault mode
bruh i might run zeldris, lostvayne, gelda and glox sub
Glox sub really does nothing for the team
@silvanderbogen2094 but when someone dies bam stats
Maybe try him with lostvayne?
Lostvayne is inferior to DK Meli though... DK Meli provides cleanse and crit support for his team, LR Lostvayne has a selfish passive
@@perennchrome2910 alr.Buuuutt he has infect :)
@@matbobyes3248 If you're facing a DK Meli that infect from LV gets removed next turn anyway 💀
Yes im early
Yo
Damn, first?
helllo😁☺️👋🖐️
First🎉
I think Gelda is much better than zeldris
Why still use demon team 💀