Regardless of whether or not they can withhold commission, it is 10000% illegal for them to put any commission on a 1099 that they didn't pay out to the individual.
@@alanforefanart2020 it even does not sound logical because in that case they still need to put that money somewhere because they dont have that sum legally, if they declare in taxes that they paid it. It sounds like fraud to me... i dont know if it is tax fraud or just fraud but sounds like it for me. I mean not paying at all is bad but then showing they paid in taxes but not paying- it seems off. It even might be someone in accounting making money aside IMO and it is not company thing but people need to go to IRS with this.
Absolutely. Although first I would get a hold of the company and tell them that if it isn't rectified in a week, she will be calling the IRS directly to handle the situation. That might get them to move on it. If not, she should call the IRS to find out how to handle it and report it as possible fraud. They take that stuff very seriously.
@@KG-VanityInKnickerswhy give them a heads up? Everyone who had gotten a false 1099 needs to report it asap. Otherwise, you may get your situation fixed, but that doesn’t help anyone else who will be victimized down the road.
And for that hun to be earning $13,000 in one month for commissions, that means she was scamming a LOT of people. Hard to feel sympathy. That’s blood money
Nicely done PSA against shaking babies. Babies are uniquely frustrating at times. Our third (and final) was a screamer. Like, maybe he's in pain or maybe he just dropped his pacifier; either way, he'd scream like he was on fire. When he was in a bad mood, I used a pair of those protective earmuff things like you see construction workers or airport baggage handlers wear. I could still hear him and take care of him, but he wasn't hurting me anymore. Saved my sanity.
I feel your pain, my youngest was a screamer too. And she was difficult to get to sleep too. Even as a newborn it was like she was allergic to sleeping. 😖 Those first few months were *rough.* There were definitely a handful of times I was sleep deprived and at my wits end, I laid her in her crib and went to a different room for a few minutes to calm myself down. I just wanted to commiserate the struggle, cuz it sucks. And also reiterate it's okay to step away! As long as baby is placed in a safe spot, they'll be just fine. You (the general you) aren't a bad parent for getting overwhelmed and needing a breather. 💜💜
@@summerbummer1930 I had to do that with my oldest when she was a baby. Would not stop crying and screaming. I put her in her crib and left the room to calm down (actually cleaned the litter boxes which really did help) and after I was calm was able to take care of her and she calmed down after.
This is good advice. It's ALWAYS okay to make sure your baby is clean and fed, then put him/her down in a SAFE place and go to another room and take a break. My first had a screaming fit every night at 7 pm. Most nights I could handle it. Sometimes I would put him into his crib and go downstairs. It is ALWAYS okay to take a break. Babies are frustrating!!
My one and only is 17mo and still a screamer. He'll throw an absolute tantrum if he's hungry and he's a bad eater at the same time. So he'll be hungry and still refuse food. Sometimes I still put him into his crib and go make him some formula or something, because as a single mum it's very difficult.
I am an accountant and I prepare 1099s. These are supposed to be done on a “cash” basis meaning only what has been paid out. You cannot report accrued income. If she does get paid out (hopefully) then those payments would be reflected on a 1099 the year they are actually paid. Sounds like they just have incorrect accounting practices (or they’re shady).
Can all of these women make a class action against YL? OR is class action for something else? Would these people have to individually retain a lawyer and take action? I feel like its the last as YL lied to the feds! I've never heard of a company doing this and am very interested in how these women get their money (even if they r scammers it is their money)
@@fluffyduckbutt24 there is the possibility that YL reps waive their right to class action when they sign on, or that they agreed to an arbitration clause. Hopefully, neither of these are the case.
I think it doesn't really matter if she was in good standing or not. If they put it on her 1099 it needs to be paid out. You can't report paying out commissions you aren't actually paying. So either they need to fix their reporting or they need to actually pay them.
Exactly... Either she was entitled to it.. they put it on the 1099 and I am betting there is gonna be soooo many more... This is gonna be fun to follow.... or she wasn't... and it shouldn't be on her 1099
I feel like the worst thing about the Bodi reel is that she focuses it on the kids' perspective. She doesn't say she wants to help women get their bodies back, she says she wants to help kids get their moms back. Which means that if you don't join her and therefore don't recover as quickly, that means you're doing your children a disservice. Way to sneakily lay on the mom guilt.
Yes! Also it is just so wrong of her to assume postpartum weight is the no. 1 cause of a mom having less energy or time for their kid(s)! If she really cared about health rather than physical looks then she would care about all the holistic health reasons someone would have less energy postpartum. SMH.
@@starsINSPACE Oh I didn't even catch that. Yeah that's awful. I lost all of my baby weight postpartum really quickly it, but it wasn't because I exercised (I absolutely didn't), it wasn't actually a good thing, and I didn't have hardly any energy, because guess what, there was other crap happening. Postpartum weight loss is usually of pretty minor relevance to overall well-being.
Her post was just flat out mom shaming. She literally said that children deserve better than unhealthy parents - so would my kids be better off if the cancer had killed me instead of leaving me disabled? 🙄
@@krisdiane similar story here, had a brain tumor that left me disabled and with several chronic illnesses. Will never be healthy no matter what we do now, but we still have value as people! The “health” angle marketing really chaps my ass and feels like eugenics to me
As far as shaken baby syndrome, I am so glad you mentioned walking away. Hannah, I know the frustrations of unsolicited advice during pregnancy. But if I can leave you and any other new mom out there with one piece of advice, it’s this… Absolutely walk away. Put your baby down and walk away. You are 1,000,000 % correct when you say that. Thankfully hubby and I never experienced shaken baby syndrome, however, my first daughter was quite colicky, for a good two weeks( I know that’s relatively short) I tried everything in my power and pulled out all the stops to calm her and nothing worked. My husband came home and saw how stressed I was. I was holding her, rocking her, trying to soothe her and we were both crying hard. He came and took her from my arms and put her in her crib and shut the door. And forced me to the other end of the house. I could still hear her crying and it was heart wrenching. My newborn baby needed me. She eventually fell asleep. Almost 25 years later and I thank God too this day that he did that. I don’t even want to think what may have happened. It turned out, I was over feeding her. As a brand new mom, everytime she cried I would feed her. Once I stopped doing that, and put her in a feeding schedule, her colic went away. Now she is about to graduate college and is engaged to be married. She was also Valedictorian of her High School graduating class
Re: the BODi post-partum thing -- there's also a very icky implication that the changes in your body from pregnancy somehow make you someone else, and that you're not you again until your body looks the same as before. BIG YIKES.
Young Living is seriously floundering. I wouldn’t be surprised if they are on the verge of going bankrupt. Savannah Marie’s did some videos about Mary Young basically telling reps that they were going to have to increase prices and lower commissions. She pretty my much told them to ‘get over it’ and that anyone that complains is selfish.
I don't know how that's possible. They have their own business. They're their own boss. So how can SOMEONE ELSE change the price of their products and cut their pay, Alyse?
@@chelsye4929it's not a "business" they are technically contractors selling and marketing for the Young Living company. For any of these huns to call what they do running a business is a disgrace to actual small business owners. My brother-in-law and sister own a small business he bought from the family. It's a print shop where they do printing for businesses, the urgent care market, promotional products, and offer graphic design services. These MLM huns just want to make themselves look self important so they claim to be a small business owner. No you're not a small business owner, rather your a overbearing pusher of a pyramid scheme! But to answer your question they are a contractor, they can't set prices for the products they try to shove down people's throats.
Hi Hannah! Former amway person here. They would have a "business meeting" at a hotel and when some big high level person would come in to town everyone would go to Dennys/IHOP afterwards for a "night owl" where that person brainwashes everyone from 10pm until however late. Hopefully that helps!
@@Erika-xm2mi I think because those places are set up more for quick dining with no waiters. The ones I’ve been in aren’t always wide open big spaces. My local McDonald’s has a bunch of fancy partitions up to create a sense of privacy and smaller dining spaces. Some are of course set up a big room with tables but they also aren’t typically as big as say an ihop or dennys either in my experience?
Just like other people have said, but also most fast food places close their dining room at 9-11pm depending on location and company. Most of the places here where I live would chase them out at 9 at the latest
Okay, I just watched the section about the Bodi rep's reel and it's making me a lot more angry and emotional than most of these posts. "Give back your kids the mom they deserve" is so shame-filled and disgusting to me. After my son was born last April, my pre-existing health conditions spiraled COMPLETELY out of control. I went from being physically capable of working 60 hours a week in a warehouse and still play outside with my daughter, take her out to fun places, etc to being medically disabled and struggling to even take care of my and my children's most basic needs. Almost 1 full year since delivery, it has pretty much been confirmed that I will NEVER be able to work again. I will never be able to do the vast majority of things with my son that I did with my daughter, and I can no longer do those things with her either. It is not physically possible for me to "be the mom they deserve" because my last pregnancy completely wrecked my body and there is no way to fix it. I would give anything to "give back my kids the mom they deserve", as she says, but the best I can do is give them a mom who is ALIVE and does everything in her power to take care of them and give them a happy life. And that's enough! That's all any of us should be expected to do. It is not physically possible for every single person to live up to the expectations the Bodi rep is trying to push on mothers, no matter how much they may want to, and being shamed or guilted for that is not okay. It's great that she is able to do her Bodi routines 9 days post partum (hopefully after being given doctor's approval, as you mentioned), but saying that everyone should be doing the same is just wrong on so many levels.
I typically wouldn't defend an MLM rep, but I don't think someone with an actual medical condition, like yourself, is the target audience. Unfortunately a lot of women use pregnancy as an excuse to not exercise and eat terribly. I recently had a baby and so many people would tell me to not exercise and eat whatever I was "craving". Neither extreme is good. Everyone should just strive to do their best and be in the healthiest position that they can.
Oh honey-your kids DO have the mom they deserve. YOU love them! YOU will fight for them until your dying breath and every last once of energy you have. YOU are the one who comforts them and laughs with them and makes them feel like the most important person in the world. YOU are their momma and no one can ever replace you. Coming to you as a fellow chronic illness warrior with adult children. Never let anyone make you feel you are not enough. ❤️❤️
I am floored at the IHOP gathering. I used to work at a Dennys and frequently on the overnight shift. The store was usually just staffed with 1 cook and 1 server at 2am. I would have been beyond stressed if a whole crowd of brainwashed scammers came in for their weird party. I sure hope they left a good tip because that's so ridiculous
Omg, the ihop photo brings back MEMORIES! I worked at a Damon’s Grill (I don’t think it exists anymore) straight out of high school and we had a standing monthly reservation in our dining room for some big late night Amway meeting. I was never assigned to serve them but I remember they took up a whole side of the restaurant (the side that we normally closed after the dinner rush) and there was always a lot of clapping. I hadn’t even heard of Amway at that point in my life but I’ll never forget that one time I asked one of the more experienced servers what they were clapping about and he said ‘celebrating that they scammed a bunch of people this month probably’ 😂😂 Thank you for this blast from the past, Hannah!
Whyyyyy would someone call their makeup brand 'crunchi'?!? When someone tells you 'your face looks crunchy'...it means your makeup looks bad and/or creasy 🤣🤣🤣
I didn't know they were an MLM! A girl that's a friend of a friend sent me some samples and kept pressuring me to order from her and I had to block her. I didn't know it was an MLM
I made the mistake of only giving myself two weeks after giving birth before I went back to cleaning houses which involves intense physical activity and after gaining no weight during pregnancy I completely swelled up and ended up not being able to Bend my knees for weeks. I also gave myself a prolapse. I REALLY hurt myself. I do NOT recommend.
as an accountant, i cringe at the amount of work YL has caused due to misreported earnings. they will need to send corrected 1099 forms to the irs and the reps. the rep might have to contact the irs as well. think about how much work that takes to correct hundreds of forms. imagine the investigation it would take to go through and verify thousands of reps’ individual earnings over the span of several years. while employers are not responsible for payroll taxes for 1099 employees, the IRS does not like when people play with their money. i imagine if YL was caught intentionally misreporting earnings there would be consequences: backpaying owed taxes (sometimes with interest), penalties, fines, lawsuits and potential jail time. and i can also confirm that not paying out commissions earned as per company policy is completely illegal.
Yes! I’ve also heard that the company will report things like the flights they provide for the conference as income. So the “free” conference actually gets counted as income you’re taxed on. Also things that you’re “gifted.” The scam goes so deep
this is done for most businesses, though. I get a parking pass as part of my employment, and that has a special box on my (Canadian) tax form - it's a form of additional income. However, if YL is putting commission amounts on the 1099s when they never paid them out, that is definitely illegal .
@@Noellep Agreed, but I don’t think the uplines or the mlm companies are upfront about that. They emphasize all of these perks and making them sound like gifts but there are so many hidden costs. Also, independent contractors are taxed at a higher rate than employees at least in the US
@@universe93 So wild. So not only are they taking time to go on an unpaid work trip, they are paying for their non refundable ticket out of pocket, and getting taxed on the only thing the company covers as income. They’re paying their time and money to work for free 🤦🏼♀️
Re: shaken baby syndrome and for mothers who feel guilt for “walking away” - DON’T. Before shaken baby syndrome and PPD was as well known (I’m old) I was colicky and didn’t sleep and cried for months. My mother - a single mom - luckily had a fantastic doctor who told her to put me somewhere safe - either the crib or on the floor (I couldn’t turn over yet) and go stand on the balcony for 10-20 minutes. He was right to say I wasn’t going to harm myself by crying (other than being colicky and “difficult”, I was healthy) and that I was in more danger from her than from crying. She had to do that daily for months. It saved her sanity, and perhaps saved me from injury. I truly feel for parents who aren’t given the education (& grace!) from doctors to know when to walk away and let a baby cry.
Whether she was in compliance or not, YL cannot say she made 13k that she did not get and put that on her 1099. That sounds like tax fraud on YLs part, as far as I can tell.
The only advice I give pregnant women is that you don’t have to listen to anyone else’s advice or, worse yet, their horror stories of themselves or their second cousin’s best friend’s daughter’s sister-in-law. You have the power to stop them and say “No!” I wouldn’t even add the “thank you.” They were rude first assuming you wanted to hear anything unsolicited. Put your hand up and say No! (And if you have a spray bottle of water handy, lightly spray them - j/k almost)
This applies to any medical condition. I had a doctor tell me I was not allowed to listen to anyone’s medical horror stories prior to an upcoming surgery. I was so grateful because any time someone wanted to tell me their story I told them I was not allowed to listen to their story. Doctor’s orders. They were shocked and with one or two exceptions they complied with the doctor’s orders. 😂
lesson: if your going to join a sketchy business, wait till you get paid before quitting the sketchy business...they continue the sketch to the IRS too. one can only hope Young Living is also not paying thier taxes and will have the wrath of the IRS come upon them
omg i knew we were getting close to your due date but i didn’t realize it was THIS close!!! congratulations and good luck! you’re gonna be an awesome mom
the crazy thing about the YL situation is idk how anyone who’s still in YL could read that and continue to stay in YL thinking they’re a trustworthy company
If I saw that Beachbody post when I was postpartum in the middle of my post partum depression, the inferred guilt would have broken me. I put enough guilt on myself for struggling, I definitely didn't need some super human "perfect" mom making me feel like I was failing my kids.
Young Living gets to deduct those 1099 expenses, so no, they cannot deduct money they didn’t pay out. 😅 They’re double dipping, keeping the money and still deducting it as an expense to lower their bottom line.
can i just say, i love when you smile and wave when the reel/story/short says people are dedicated to bashing the mlms? it makes me smile every time! like how oblivious are these people to not realize theres some merit to the TONS of channels "bashing" it. keep up the amazing work!
As someone who is a special needs mum who is also disabled and chronically ill I see so many women in the special needs/disability grups fall victim to MLMs. They totally get targeted because they are desperate income but need to work from home. I've never seen one make any substantial income. They all not only lose money but so much damn time.
I’m sorry but I refuse to call BeachBody by their new name lol it’s dumb 😂 Also I wouldn’t be shocked if that rep wasn’t actually working out 9 days postpartum and just picked up weights and did 20 seconds of squats just for the reel.
Affiliate marketing is the new term. It’s so frustrating too because unlike all the other silly names they’ve used, affiliate marketing is a real thing that they’re now tarnishing. They’re trying to pretend to be something else entirely to legitimise their scam.
@@avaboyer9297 OMG the obvious intent to deceive isn't even the worst part. I hope legitimate affiliate marketing is able to dodge the harm, even if it means going through its own rebranding.
Hey Hannah! I wanted to say congrats on your baby and offer some advice about a test to ask for 24 hours after the birth called a Pulse Oximetry Test. It tests for heart defects, I was born with one called Tetralogy of Fallot, and had I had that test my mom and drs would have known and I could have gotten life saving treatment right away. I wont go on about the details of all that lol, I just always try to let anyone I can know about the test because its painless and quick and makes all the difference in the world ♡ Keep up the good work, I love your videos and love to lay in bed and just listen to them when I'm having bad health days 😊
Both my kids were born with minor heart defects. I am forever thankful to our pediatrician that has all babies do a heart ultrasound at 6/7 months old. That how we found out about my daughter's inter auricular communication (not very significant but still with checking every year). Because she was being checked regularly, her cardiologist decided to do an ultrasound and a EKG to my son when he was 6 months old. We are very fortunate to have learned that he has a rare and random heart condition. For now he has no symptoms and no issues but, because of those very simple exams, we are prepared to act very quickly if he ever has an issue. Simple tests can save lives, people!
Nurse here ☺️ Don’t do the “test” at the hospital unless your baby shows signs of distress - you’ll be charged THOUSANDS for something that’s as simple as putting a sticky probe around your infants large toe for a few minutes (if they even leave it on that long). If your pediatrician is a good one, they’ll generally have you come into the office for a 72-96hr check up to make sure everything is going okay with baby as far as feeding and jaundice are concerned. I know mine always wanted to make sure baby was gaining by the time a new mamas milk supply came in and that baby was getting a good, solid latch. Dr also wanted to double check that we were adjusting well at home ❤ At this check, thr nurse would have done a pulse ox (it’s one of the five vital signs and you get it everytime you go to the dr), so any abnormal reading would warrant a formal investigation, regardless of being a newborn or not. Quick note tho, tetralogy of fallout is almost always caught on ultrasound while still in utero. Due to the number of heart defects that go into the physiology of TOF, it’s hard to miss one. If it goes undetected and the infant survives birth, that baby should present fairly quickly. I’m shocked OP went longer than the hospital stay bc I have yet to come across one that didn’t present within hours of birth. Most TOF babies are extremely critical once born with most going straight into open heart surgery almost immediately after delivery. Of which, to keep these babies going into distress, are typically delivered via caesarean. Often we have mothers in recovery while their newborn is in surgery. ❤️ Best of luck, Hannah!
@Heather Z I forgot that in the US you have to always consider the cost. I have to add that my kids did their exams (EKG, heart ultrasound and Holter) free of charge in a public and very good children's hospital. So I guess you have to check with your doctor first if the benefits are bigger than the cost.
The “Monat Mary, Young Living Yolanda, Arbonne Ally” bit took me out 😆 hope you’re enjoying your well-deserved (and impeccably planned) maternity leave!!
1. Contact the IRS and report any discrepancy on a 1099. They will ask the company to provide proof payment was issued to and received by the rep. That could also lead to an audit for YL if enough people report it. 👀 2. Anyone who claimed income they didn't receive can file amended taxes. Another way to raise a flag against YL. 3. All MLMs seem to do this to people who leave. Several Monat reps have posted about not being paid out their final commissions. 4. The fact that so many didn't say anything prior to that rep's post shows how brainwashed they are into never saying anything against the MLM. Even after they leave.
I’m so glad you touched base on the comment about how EVERYTHING is network marketing these days… I’m working on a horror story for you, because my best friend has been in an MLM for YEARS, I have so many details…buuut she brought up the other day how Target and Walmart are Network Marketing companies too….I just changed the subject because it’s like talking to a brick wall. I hate hearing it though…
So in regards to the Amway post I’d be happy to enlighten you as one who was a part of this MLM for years as were my parents. I am going to say this was probably an after seminar get together at the most local 24 hour cafe (we always went to Denny’s lol) These people have probably just been pumped and hyped up by listening to some top ranking speakers and will now get together discussing all they have heard and learned. The guy speaking is probably one of the mid ranking people and is sharing their “knowledge” of the business to help keep these people pumped and motivated. Showing them that even they can do it! I can tell you right now that my sympathies go out to any employee at this or any restaurant that gets bombarded with these groups as they will be fired up and on the prowl to recruit any one they come across in that place. Trust me I know. 😫😢
On top of everything you said about post partum recovery, you literally have a wound the size of a dinner plate from the placenta that needs to heal. That on top of pelvic floor, abdominal diastasis recti, your actual vag/vulva, and your mental state need time to heal! Like….let your mind and body heal. It’s like we all saw Heidi Klum return to modeling 6 weeks after birth, and we couldn’t forget it. We were under the impression that’s what we had to do. I will add I’m a hopeful mother one day, not currently. I did work at an OB/GYN and was the support person for my best friend, so I do have some knowledge and first hand witnessing to the birth process, and it further reiterated to me how much new moms deserve rest, peace, and recovery. Not external pressures to get back to it (it being work outs, pre baby weight, etc)
Excellent explanation of why we don't excercise too soon after labor. It's like being hit by a bus, it doesn't matter how good of shape you were in previously, you need time to heal.
Hannah, I just wanted to thank you for your videos, which were my gateway into anti-MLM. I was watching only true crime creators when you were suggested to me when you had only two anti-MLM videos. You're clearly a teacher (as am I -- EFL) and I've used your videos in my lessons, because you speak clearly and the speech-generated CC actually matches what you're saying. That's a huge compliment, I think. 😉 I had no idea the pervasiveness of MLMs (or even what they were) until you so, again, thank you! My students are now very well-versed in "business opportunities" to avoid.
I have a friend that has been selling YL for a number of years now and who mentioned recently that she was constantly worried about her YL paycheck so I wonder if it has to do with things like this. I refuse to participate in the whole MLM thing so we don't discuss her "business" but I hope she manages to get out before she gets completely screwed over.
I have a friend who was deep into YL also. But as of the last 4 months or so, I don't really see her posting or mentioning it anymore. Hope she too got out & or gets out & doesn't get screwed over either
I'm a certified prenatal postnatal fitness trainer, not a doctor. In my professional opinion, I would never recommend exercise this soon after pregnancy, however, some doctors will tell women they can go back to the same exercise immediately after birth. Since I'm not a doctor I have to defer to their opinion.
I was pitched Amway at a Village Inn. A couple years later I went to Village Inn and noticed possibly 1/2 the people in the restraunt were being pitched Amway. I thought it was kind of tragic for the servers. I can't imagine they got a lot of tips off their tables.
Omg. I'm so glad someone finally mentioned crunchy. Two girls I went to school with are currently in it and posting ad nauseum on Instagram. Both mothers. Both very religious. One posts things saying that the husband is in charge and you should obey him, etc etc per bible scriptures. Big yikes.
When I was drinking the bodi kool aid, I was part of a facebook group under a "coach". There were women who had to take a break for various medical reasons. Every one was like hey uhm do not push yourself. You need to rest your body so that it can recover. Do what you need to do with your medical physio first. The "coach" even backed that up so seeing this woman put her body at risk is really scary. .
Looks to me like Young Living is in dire straits. I predict that their next move will be to collect their representatives' misleading (non-compliant) claims and fire them all for non-compliance. This gives them a valid reason not to pay out commissions.
Re tax - I worked for a tax professional company that did this. It wasn't an MLM but was a horrible, toxic place (multiple people got diagnosed with PTSD from it). People can report to IRS and most states. Some states are very likely to pursue, others and IRS less so, or at least takes longer. For those not interested, I suggest talking with a CPA or tax attorney who handles income tax. I've has these conversations, including without charge, because sometimes people need help but really don't need to hire me. I'd suggest CPA first, though, as they have more leeway in advising often. Thanks for the PSA on shaken baby syndrome and PPD/PP life. There's so much more that taking a moment can protect from as well.
Can confirm. ALL of Hannah’s videos are binge able 🤗🤗💐 Thank you Hannah for all of your work. Hope you’re able to get some decent rest during this stage in your pregnancy (I have 3 kidlets, so I understand how difficult, and downright uncomfortable/painful, it is)
When my parents, and then me later, were in Amway, we would go to restaurants after meetings they would hold at hotels. Probably a 24 hour IHOP because it's still open. The meetings are largely inspirational (to get you "fired up" about the business) and participants were so wired afterwards that the after meetings at the restaurants would go on for a while. Seriously, Amway was a trip!
I do the exact same thing as a sole proprietor! I put away 35%. That way I have it if the government takes it all or it's like a nice little refund at the end of the year If I have enough expenses to write off
Smart. My now ex was in real estate and did not provide for his income taxes but told me he was. Wow, getting my checking account seized for his unpaid quarterly tax payments sure woke me up to his lies.
When I was in college, I worked at a Cracker Barrel. Amway used to come every Monday night and leave at close. We would practically have to kick them out. They were very kind (because they were trying to recruit) and tipped pretty well, also. The group was so large because we were not far from the Corporate location.
I am bewildered at the fact that you (a great mom with a healthy child) took the time to give a great method to dealing with emotions that might lead to shaken baby syndrome, but the woman going through a traumatic event took the time to pitch her mlm. Absolutely wild stuff.
The Amway thing is called a “night owl” and they literally about nothing. It’s all empty motivational speaking and telling you how to recruit people. It’s very dumb
The woman in clip 3 makes me wonder if part of the reason that MLMs are so popular is due to the scarcity and uncertainty that young parents face in the United States because of our poor healthcare infrastructure, high costs of healthcare, and poor social safety nets like little to no mandated parental leave from work and outrageous childcare costs.
That’s tax fraud. Reporting withheld income on a 1099 is illegal and they should sue them. The woman just having her accountant reduce the income instead of demanding a corrected 1099 could result in her being audited by the IRS and having to pay the taxes on top of fees and interest depending on what the IRS concludes.
Girl, let me tell you about the ridiculous amount of unsolicited advice that I received when I was pregnant. Everything I was doing was wrong, I should eat this, I should do this exercise, I should listen to Mozart, I should take this supplement. I simply said, yeah, I'll ask my Doctor. The weirdest piece of advice I got? Get rid of my cats, because if I let them sit on my stomach or sleep next to the baby as a newborn, they will *steal the baby's soul*. I'm not joking, this woman told me that with a straight face. And this was only 17 years ago. I laughed. What else can you do? Enjoy your beautiful baby, you're going to be a wonderful mom. :)
I’ve seen people post in my local Fb groups that they’re giving away their cat because they’re having a child. They’ll say the cat is super sweet so it’s not even a behavioral issue. Can’t even imagine what misinformation they must have had to do that. Those poor cats.
young living is drowning financially, savannah marie has a bunch of videos on this topic. wouldn’t shock me at all to find that they’re withholding terminated reps’ income as part of some last-ditch attempt to preserve cash flow and hoping the reps either don’t notice, don’t think it’s worth it to call out, or it’ll take long enough to correct that they’ll either have recovered or gone completely out of business 😅
I think the best thing to do if you want to get out of an MLM is to go a couple months with no sales then quit. If you quit while they still owe you money it's kind of like to have you over a barrel.
Many large businesses (hospital/med school/senior center for example in our area) are comfortable functioning with a “loose moral compass”. They will take advantage of anyone they can.
The fact that they say conduct put a hold on her account the literal day she quit… like come the fuck on that reads as purposefully withholding money from someone for leaving the company Sidenote- But if Young Living is in the negative while at the same time stealing literal thousands from their own distributors, they really are crashing and burning more than I thought
Young living in benefiting by writing off all of that extra money on their income just by those comments alone that's probably $50,000 that they're not having to pay taxes on. they absolutely need to be audited and investigated by the IRS. this might hopefully get their company shut down
A tip from a mother of 4 kids under 6, regarding sbs. It will not affect your baby at all long term to let them cry for a few minutes. What I suggest is swaddling baby if they like it so they still feel comforted, leave the area so that you cannot hear them cry at all! Or use headphones if you can’t get away. Set a timer for 5-10 minute and just have a snack/ walk around/ lay down and breath. I had to do this often with my youngest because she did not like to fall asleep without me and rocking her to sleep plus my 1 year old also needing attention plus my 2 older boys playing loudly would make me so over stimulated.
Tax fraud. They get a credit for claiming they paid you this money. They need to fill out a the tax fraud reporting form but I can't remember the number. If they all do it, they can start a large scale investigation.
If she rejects that income and tells the IRS she didn't get it, the company may be able to then turn around and say she admitted she wasn't entitled to it so she needs to be VERY careful.
It SOUNDS like a standard measure they routinely do to hassle people who leave. Sort of like an MLM "Fair Game" policy. Plus, if the person has not checked their 1099 (as several of them said) they'd never know and the company keeps the money.
The FD thing...as a career firefighter, the MLM huns are almost as rampant as they are among military dependas. I was pitched DoTerra, Scentsy, Tupperware, pampered chef, and more in my firehouse.
The amway one looks like a night owl, or the bonus styled night owl where after a conference u would attend a night owl until the early hours of the morning then after being pressured to attend that they would try and pressure u into attending a breakfast or another gathering at another members house to continue more just for u to have another “conference” a couple hours later (learned this from my brief stunt in amway)
My wife was in Amway while she was my gf because I didn't want to tell her she's in a pyramid scheme and as her husband I made her leave. She wouldn't have listened to be back then anyway. These people believe that if you present as a successful person, people will want to join you. Ex wearing business/ business causal attire everywhere. At a conference i went with her just to be a supportive boyfriend, they would sit there for hours(like they would pack their own amway snacks and drinks because nothing was provided) listening to the typical mlm things about how they started even though only the people at the top ever spoke and no one was allowed to talk to these people at all or for to long unless you were also at the top rank. Then after the conference their uplines would tell them they're having a meeting because some people bring their potential recruits also. Basically all day and night they talked amyway. My wife went on team hikes in NC. These people are so brainwashed that if their upline told them to go to Walmart tonight and talk to random people and don't leave until you get 5 numbers because X did it they would.
When i say i made her it wasn't in an abusive way. I told her you need to pay off your debt then you can join afterwards if thats what you want and when she sat and thought about it she didnt want to go back. she spent over a 2 years and never once made a profit. I honestly think she only did it to make friends and just hoped she would somehow build a team. I mean her IG was private and she hates talking to strangers. She was spending ~$450/month on products and VIP access to motivation books and stories from the tippy top of the pyramid.
I rarely follow RUclips channels, but I adore Hannah and respect what she does. I hope she shows the baby in a video!! After her recovery and if she feels comfortable, of course. I'd pay good money for a little outfit saying "Anti MLM".
I had to stop working out at 5 months. I was huge and had severe pain when moving. I did small workouts on a ball until giving birth, but it was hard. Because I was so huge my spine suffered a lot of damage. I didn't know how much until I went to a doctor a year later when my backpain was getting worse. Now I'm in physical therapy and it'll take 6 months to a year to be in a place where I can work out as before.
I’m not sure how it is in other regions, but in my state, it is not required to have a makeup license to enter the cosmetology field. AND unless you go to a specialized cosmetic school which are few and far between (I don’t think there’s any left in my area, beauty schools hardly do ANY education on makeup application anyways. So the Crunchy stats are actually par for the course in that industry.
Oh I had that pain with my second pregnancy, it was so rough. I was glad we lived in a one story house, but washer and dryer was in the basement, I couldn’t do the stairs in the last few months.
Omg! I also had SPD! My baby ended up being 10lbs8oz and I FEEL your pain.. I felt like my coochie was going to break in half whenever I walked, it was insane. Thankfully, it has subsided since, save for a few months of soreness if I walked too long. Wishing you the best labour and delivery ♥️
Regardless of whether or not they can withhold commission, it is 10000% illegal for them to put any commission on a 1099 that they didn't pay out to the individual.
Exactly. They either paid it or they didn’t. They can’t have it both ways.
@@alanforefanart2020 it even does not sound logical because in that case they still need to put that money somewhere because they dont have that sum legally, if they declare in taxes that they paid it. It sounds like fraud to me... i dont know if it is tax fraud or just fraud but sounds like it for me. I mean not paying at all is bad but then showing they paid in taxes but not paying- it seems off. It even might be someone in accounting making money aside IMO and it is not company thing but people need to go to IRS with this.
@@mrsmerilysomeone basically stole this money
Bullseye!
But let’s add on that they can not withhold commissions earned.
never thought I'd be pro-IRS, but if they can take down Young Living... call me the taxman baby 😳
Sometimes the enemy of your enemy is a friend
Lularoe did something similar to 1000s of retailers didn't get in any trouble
This gave me a good laugh! I agree!
Let's report and take them down!
I mean, they took down AL Capone. Don't mess with the IRS
She needs to report the fraudulent 1099 directly to the IRS as a fraud.
Absolutely. Although first I would get a hold of the company and tell them that if it isn't rectified in a week, she will be calling the IRS directly to handle the situation. That might get them to move on it. If not, she should call the IRS to find out how to handle it and report it as possible fraud. They take that stuff very seriously.
Exactly!
She should band all the other reps that were screwed as well. Have people post it everywhere.
@@KG-VanityInKnickerswhy give them a heads up? Everyone who had gotten a false 1099 needs to report it asap. Otherwise, you may get your situation fixed, but that doesn’t help anyone else who will be victimized down the road.
“The company that has helped me scam people is now scamming me!”
Shocking.
And for that hun to be earning $13,000 in one month for commissions, that means she was scamming a LOT of people. Hard to feel sympathy. That’s blood money
I'm not FORCED to come to work everyday. But I show up because they RELIABLY pay me for my time. I like that arrangement.
Nicely done PSA against shaking babies. Babies are uniquely frustrating at times. Our third (and final) was a screamer. Like, maybe he's in pain or maybe he just dropped his pacifier; either way, he'd scream like he was on fire. When he was in a bad mood, I used a pair of those protective earmuff things like you see construction workers or airport baggage handlers wear. I could still hear him and take care of him, but he wasn't hurting me anymore. Saved my sanity.
That's a great tip for screaming babies, thanks for sharing!
I feel your pain, my youngest was a screamer too. And she was difficult to get to sleep too. Even as a newborn it was like she was allergic to sleeping. 😖 Those first few months were *rough.* There were definitely a handful of times I was sleep deprived and at my wits end, I laid her in her crib and went to a different room for a few minutes to calm myself down.
I just wanted to commiserate the struggle, cuz it sucks. And also reiterate it's okay to step away! As long as baby is placed in a safe spot, they'll be just fine. You (the general you) aren't a bad parent for getting overwhelmed and needing a breather. 💜💜
@@summerbummer1930 I had to do that with my oldest when she was a baby. Would not stop crying and screaming. I put her in her crib and left the room to calm down (actually cleaned the litter boxes which really did help) and after I was calm was able to take care of her and she calmed down after.
This is good advice. It's ALWAYS okay to make sure your baby is clean and fed, then put him/her down in a SAFE place and go to another room and take a break. My first had a screaming fit every night at 7 pm. Most nights I could handle it. Sometimes I would put him into his crib and go downstairs. It is ALWAYS okay to take a break. Babies are frustrating!!
My one and only is 17mo and still a screamer. He'll throw an absolute tantrum if he's hungry and he's a bad eater at the same time. So he'll be hungry and still refuse food. Sometimes I still put him into his crib and go make him some formula or something, because as a single mum it's very difficult.
I am an accountant and I prepare 1099s. These are supposed to be done on a “cash” basis meaning only what has been paid out. You cannot report accrued income. If she does get paid out (hopefully) then those payments would be reflected on a 1099 the year they are actually paid. Sounds like they just have incorrect accounting practices (or they’re shady).
Can all of these women make a class action against YL? OR is class action for something else? Would these people have to individually retain a lawyer and take action? I feel like its the last as YL lied to the feds! I've never heard of a company doing this and am very interested in how these women get their money (even if they r scammers it is their money)
@@fluffyduckbutt24 there is the possibility that YL reps waive their right to class action when they sign on, or that they agreed to an arbitration clause. Hopefully, neither of these are the case.
I think it doesn't really matter if she was in good standing or not. If they put it on her 1099 it needs to be paid out. You can't report paying out commissions you aren't actually paying. So either they need to fix their reporting or they need to actually pay them.
Exactly... Either she was entitled to it.. they put it on the 1099 and I am betting there is gonna be soooo many more... This is gonna be fun to follow.... or she wasn't... and it shouldn't be on her 1099
It's fraud
Actually they should do both, because if they pay it now, then she should pay tax for it on next year, not now 😅
I feel like the worst thing about the Bodi reel is that she focuses it on the kids' perspective. She doesn't say she wants to help women get their bodies back, she says she wants to help kids get their moms back. Which means that if you don't join her and therefore don't recover as quickly, that means you're doing your children a disservice. Way to sneakily lay on the mom guilt.
Yes! Also it is just so wrong of her to assume postpartum weight is the no. 1 cause of a mom having less energy or time for their kid(s)! If she really cared about health rather than physical looks then she would care about all the holistic health reasons someone would have less energy postpartum. SMH.
@@starsINSPACE Oh I didn't even catch that. Yeah that's awful. I lost all of my baby weight postpartum really quickly it, but it wasn't because I exercised (I absolutely didn't), it wasn't actually a good thing, and I didn't have hardly any energy, because guess what, there was other crap happening. Postpartum weight loss is usually of pretty minor relevance to overall well-being.
Her post was just flat out mom shaming. She literally said that children deserve better than unhealthy parents - so would my kids be better off if the cancer had killed me instead of leaving me disabled? 🙄
@@krisdiane similar story here, had a brain tumor that left me disabled and with several chronic illnesses. Will never be healthy no matter what we do now, but we still have value as people! The “health” angle marketing really chaps my ass and feels like eugenics to me
As far as shaken baby syndrome, I am so glad you mentioned walking away. Hannah, I know the frustrations of unsolicited advice during pregnancy. But if I can leave you and any other new mom out there with one piece of advice, it’s this…
Absolutely walk away. Put your baby down and walk away. You are 1,000,000 % correct when you say that. Thankfully hubby and I never experienced shaken baby syndrome, however, my first daughter was quite colicky, for a good two weeks( I know that’s relatively short) I tried everything in my power and pulled out all the stops to calm her and nothing worked. My husband came home and saw how stressed I was. I was holding her, rocking her, trying to soothe her and we were both crying hard. He came and took her from my arms and put her in her crib and shut the door. And forced me to the other end of the house. I could still hear her crying and it was heart wrenching. My newborn baby needed me. She eventually fell asleep. Almost 25 years later and I thank God too this day that he did that. I don’t even want to think what may have happened. It turned out, I was over feeding her. As a brand new mom, everytime she cried I would feed her. Once I stopped doing that, and put her in a feeding schedule, her colic went away. Now she is about to graduate college and is engaged to be married. She was also Valedictorian of her High School graduating class
I wonder if Young living will get hit with a bunch of tax evasion charges and fines. That would be interesting if they get shut down over this.
Re: the BODi post-partum thing -- there's also a very icky implication that the changes in your body from pregnancy somehow make you someone else, and that you're not you again until your body looks the same as before. BIG YIKES.
Young Living is seriously floundering. I wouldn’t be surprised if they are on the verge of going bankrupt. Savannah Marie’s did some videos about Mary Young basically telling reps that they were going to have to increase prices and lower commissions. She pretty my much told them to ‘get over it’ and that anyone that complains is selfish.
That's what I'm thinking, YL is strapped for cash and they're doing whatever they can to try and keep afloat.
Yeah she said "they're operating at a loss"
I have family and friends who work (or did work) for YL corporate. They’ve had several mass layoffs. They’re definitely a sinking ship…
I don't know how that's possible. They have their own business. They're their own boss. So how can SOMEONE ELSE change the price of their products and cut their pay, Alyse?
@@chelsye4929it's not a "business" they are technically contractors selling and marketing for the Young Living company. For any of these huns to call what they do running a business is a disgrace to actual small business owners. My brother-in-law and sister own a small business he bought from the family. It's a print shop where they do printing for businesses, the urgent care market, promotional products, and offer graphic design services. These MLM huns just want to make themselves look self important so they claim to be a small business owner. No you're not a small business owner, rather your a overbearing pusher of a pyramid scheme! But to answer your question they are a contractor, they can't set prices for the products they try to shove down people's throats.
Hi Hannah! Former amway person here. They would have a "business meeting" at a hotel and when some big high level person would come in to town everyone would go to Dennys/IHOP afterwards for a "night owl" where that person brainwashes everyone from 10pm until however late. Hopefully that helps!
Stupid question but I find it interesting that they'd always choose Denny's or IHOP. Why not McDonald's? KFC? DQ?
@@Erika-xm2mi I think because those places are set up more for quick dining with no waiters. The ones I’ve been in aren’t always wide open big spaces. My local McDonald’s has a bunch of fancy partitions up to create a sense of privacy and smaller dining spaces. Some are of course set up a big room with tables but they also aren’t typically as big as say an ihop or dennys either in my experience?
Just like other people have said, but also most fast food places close their dining room at 9-11pm depending on location and company. Most of the places here where I live would chase them out at 9 at the latest
Same here! We were on the doth side of Indianapolis. Also would go to Panera and Burger King. And everyone dresses up
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Okay, I just watched the section about the Bodi rep's reel and it's making me a lot more angry and emotional than most of these posts. "Give back your kids the mom they deserve" is so shame-filled and disgusting to me.
After my son was born last April, my pre-existing health conditions spiraled COMPLETELY out of control. I went from being physically capable of working 60 hours a week in a warehouse and still play outside with my daughter, take her out to fun places, etc to being medically disabled and struggling to even take care of my and my children's most basic needs. Almost 1 full year since delivery, it has pretty much been confirmed that I will NEVER be able to work again. I will never be able to do the vast majority of things with my son that I did with my daughter, and I can no longer do those things with her either. It is not physically possible for me to "be the mom they deserve" because my last pregnancy completely wrecked my body and there is no way to fix it. I would give anything to "give back my kids the mom they deserve", as she says, but the best I can do is give them a mom who is ALIVE and does everything in her power to take care of them and give them a happy life. And that's enough! That's all any of us should be expected to do.
It is not physically possible for every single person to live up to the expectations the Bodi rep is trying to push on mothers, no matter how much they may want to, and being shamed or guilted for that is not okay. It's great that she is able to do her Bodi routines 9 days post partum (hopefully after being given doctor's approval, as you mentioned), but saying that everyone should be doing the same is just wrong on so many levels.
I typically wouldn't defend an MLM rep, but I don't think someone with an actual medical condition, like yourself, is the target audience. Unfortunately a lot of women use pregnancy as an excuse to not exercise and eat terribly. I recently had a baby and so many people would tell me to not exercise and eat whatever I was "craving". Neither extreme is good. Everyone should just strive to do their best and be in the healthiest position that they can.
Oh honey-your kids DO have the mom they deserve. YOU love them! YOU will fight for them until your dying breath and every last once of energy you have. YOU are the one who comforts them and laughs with them and makes them feel like the most important person in the world. YOU are their momma and no one can ever replace you. Coming to you as a fellow chronic illness warrior with adult children. Never let anyone make you feel you are not enough. ❤️❤️
I am floored at the IHOP gathering. I used to work at a Dennys and frequently on the overnight shift. The store was usually just staffed with 1 cook and 1 server at 2am. I would have been beyond stressed if a whole crowd of brainwashed scammers came in for their weird party. I sure hope they left a good tip because that's so ridiculous
“tHrEr’s aCcOUntS deDIcAtED tO TaKInG dOWn mLmS”
Me: *waves to the video*
Hannah: *waves in the video*
I lost it😂😂
If you end up sitting in a circle listening to a guy present at 2am in a restaurant…. You are in a cult.
Oh good, I was about to finally start doing something I've been procrastinating; now I get to push it back a little farther! 😄
Omg same here 😄😅
Raises hand, me too!
Me three 😂
😂
So curious if you ever got it done 😅
Omg, the ihop photo brings back MEMORIES! I worked at a Damon’s Grill (I don’t think it exists anymore) straight out of high school and we had a standing monthly reservation in our dining room for some big late night Amway meeting. I was never assigned to serve them but I remember they took up a whole side of the restaurant (the side that we normally closed after the dinner rush) and there was always a lot of clapping. I hadn’t even heard of Amway at that point in my life but I’ll never forget that one time I asked one of the more experienced servers what they were clapping about and he said ‘celebrating that they scammed a bunch of people this month probably’ 😂😂 Thank you for this blast from the past, Hannah!
Whyyyyy would someone call their makeup brand 'crunchi'?!? When someone tells you 'your face looks crunchy'...it means your makeup looks bad and/or creasy 🤣🤣🤣
I can hear Robert Welsh say, "Why would anyone want their makeup to be 'crunchy'?"
@@maryeckel9682 exactly!!!
I didn't know they were an MLM! A girl that's a friend of a friend sent me some samples and kept pressuring me to order from her and I had to block her. I didn't know it was an MLM
I made the mistake of only giving myself two weeks after giving birth before I went back to cleaning houses which involves intense physical activity and after gaining no weight during pregnancy I completely swelled up and ended up not being able to Bend my knees for weeks. I also gave myself a prolapse. I REALLY hurt myself. I do NOT recommend.
as an accountant, i cringe at the amount of work YL has caused due to misreported earnings.
they will need to send corrected 1099 forms to the irs and the reps. the rep might have to contact the irs as well. think about how much work that takes to correct hundreds of forms. imagine the investigation it would take to go through and verify thousands of reps’ individual earnings over the span of several years.
while employers are not responsible for payroll taxes for 1099 employees, the IRS does not like when people play with their money. i imagine if YL was caught intentionally misreporting earnings there would be consequences: backpaying owed taxes (sometimes with interest), penalties, fines, lawsuits and potential jail time.
and i can also confirm that not paying out commissions earned as per company policy is completely illegal.
Yes! I’ve also heard that the company will report things like the flights they provide for the conference as income. So the “free” conference actually gets counted as income you’re taxed on. Also things that you’re “gifted.” The scam goes so deep
this is done for most businesses, though. I get a parking pass as part of my employment, and that has a special box on my (Canadian) tax form - it's a form of additional income. However, if YL is putting commission amounts on the 1099s when they never paid them out, that is definitely illegal
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@@Noellep Agreed, but I don’t think the uplines or the mlm companies are upfront about that. They emphasize all of these perks and making them sound like gifts but there are so many hidden costs. Also, independent contractors are taxed at a higher rate than employees at least in the US
@djs2182 oh yes, that's definitely true!
Yep Hannah has pointed this out before. Monat and I think YL and beach body as well put the cost of “free” trips on 1099 as taxable income
@@universe93 So wild. So not only are they taking time to go on an unpaid work trip, they are paying for their non refundable ticket out of pocket, and getting taxed on the only thing the company covers as income. They’re paying their time and money to work for free 🤦🏼♀️
Re: shaken baby syndrome and for mothers who feel guilt for “walking away” - DON’T. Before shaken baby syndrome and PPD was as well known (I’m old) I was colicky and didn’t sleep and cried for months. My mother - a single mom - luckily had a fantastic doctor who told her to put me somewhere safe - either the crib or on the floor (I couldn’t turn over yet) and go stand on the balcony for 10-20 minutes. He was right to say I wasn’t going to harm myself by crying (other than being colicky and “difficult”, I was healthy) and that I was in more danger from her than from crying. She had to do that daily for months. It saved her sanity, and perhaps saved me from injury. I truly feel for parents who aren’t given the education (& grace!) from doctors to know when to walk away and let a baby cry.
Whether she was in compliance or not, YL cannot say she made 13k that she did not get and put that on her 1099. That sounds like tax fraud on YLs part, as far as I can tell.
The only advice I give pregnant women is that you don’t have to listen to anyone else’s advice or, worse yet, their horror stories of themselves or their second cousin’s best friend’s daughter’s sister-in-law. You have the power to stop them and say “No!” I wouldn’t even add the “thank you.” They were rude first assuming you wanted to hear anything unsolicited. Put your hand up and say No! (And if you have a spray bottle of water handy, lightly spray them - j/k almost)
This applies to any medical condition. I had a doctor tell me I was not allowed to listen to anyone’s medical horror stories prior to an upcoming surgery. I was so grateful because any time someone wanted to tell me their story I told them I was not allowed to listen to their story. Doctor’s orders. They were shocked and with one or two exceptions they complied with the doctor’s orders. 😂
Finally, we have found the true champion to defeat MLMs: the IRS.
lesson: if your going to join a sketchy business, wait till you get paid before quitting the sketchy business...they continue the sketch to the IRS too. one can only hope Young Living is also not paying thier taxes and will have the wrath of the IRS come upon them
omg i knew we were getting close to your due date but i didn’t realize it was THIS close!!! congratulations and good luck! you’re gonna be an awesome mom
even if she isn't entitled to that 13k (which she should be), they CANNOT put that on her 1099 without paying her that.
the crazy thing about the YL situation is idk how anyone who’s still in YL could read that and continue to stay in YL thinking they’re a trustworthy company
As someone who loves going to ihop at 2 am, I will be making fun of you if you're having an MLM meeting. I am tired and have no filter at 2 am
If I saw that Beachbody post when I was postpartum in the middle of my post partum depression, the inferred guilt would have broken me. I put enough guilt on myself for struggling, I definitely didn't need some super human "perfect" mom making me feel like I was failing my kids.
When you waved at her I lost it laughing. You were like "Hi, that's me."
Young Living gets to deduct those 1099 expenses, so no, they cannot deduct money they didn’t pay out. 😅 They’re double dipping, keeping the money and still deducting it as an expense to lower their bottom line.
10:39 Isn’t it interesting how they are all complaining about 1099s and withheld pay, but they are also supposed to be business owners???
can i just say, i love when you smile and wave when the reel/story/short says people are dedicated to bashing the mlms? it makes me smile every time! like how oblivious are these people to not realize theres some merit to the TONS of channels "bashing" it. keep up the amazing work!
I liked that part too
That is the best part. MLM huns tell so many untruths its a joke.
She should call the irs and report them for tax evasion
Probably fraud not evasion
@@_Laura.Marie_Sierra.Destiny_ both it’s evasion because the write off the money as a loss as though they paid her so they don’t pay taxes on it.
As someone who is a special needs mum who is also disabled and chronically ill I see so many women in the special needs/disability grups fall victim to MLMs. They totally get targeted because they are desperate income but need to work from home. I've never seen one make any substantial income. They all not only lose money but so much damn time.
I’m sorry but I refuse to call BeachBody by their new name lol it’s dumb 😂
Also I wouldn’t be shocked if that rep wasn’t actually working out 9 days postpartum and just picked up weights and did 20 seconds of squats just for the reel.
Also doesn't "Bodi" stands for "Beachbody On Demand"? So it's still Beachbody?? I don't get it 🤣
Wether she is actually working out or not, she's putting the idea out there that others need to be doing the same. Dangerous.
So excited for your baby! Congrats!
I have a three week old, and she brings me so much joy.
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“We are not an MLM” is the new “We are not a pyramid scheme”. And, soon it will have a new term like social retail or home warehousing
Affiliate marketing is the new term. It’s so frustrating too because unlike all the other silly names they’ve used, affiliate marketing is a real thing that they’re now tarnishing. They’re trying to pretend to be something else entirely to legitimise their scam.
@@avaboyer9297 OMG the obvious intent to deceive isn't even the worst part. I hope legitimate affiliate marketing is able to dodge the harm, even if it means going through its own rebranding.
Hey Hannah! I wanted to say congrats on your baby and offer some advice about a test to ask for 24 hours after the birth called a Pulse Oximetry Test. It tests for heart defects, I was born with one called Tetralogy of Fallot, and had I had that test my mom and drs would have known and I could have gotten life saving treatment right away. I wont go on about the details of all that lol, I just always try to let anyone I can know about the test because its painless and quick and makes all the difference in the world ♡
Keep up the good work, I love your videos and love to lay in bed and just listen to them when I'm having bad health days 😊
Both my kids were born with minor heart defects. I am forever thankful to our pediatrician that has all babies do a heart ultrasound at 6/7 months old. That how we found out about my daughter's inter auricular communication (not very significant but still with checking every year). Because she was being checked regularly, her cardiologist decided to do an ultrasound and a EKG to my son when he was 6 months old. We are very fortunate to have learned that he has a rare and random heart condition. For now he has no symptoms and no issues but, because of those very simple exams, we are prepared to act very quickly if he ever has an issue. Simple tests can save lives, people!
Thank you for sharing. I’m saving that info in case anyone I know gets pregnant or if I ever need it
Thanks for giving new parents some actual good advice! 🥰
Nurse here ☺️
Don’t do the “test” at the hospital unless your baby shows signs of distress - you’ll be charged THOUSANDS for something that’s as simple as putting a sticky probe around your infants large toe for a few minutes (if they even leave it on that long). If your pediatrician is a good one, they’ll generally have you come into the office for a 72-96hr check up to make sure everything is going okay with baby as far as feeding and jaundice are concerned. I know mine always wanted to make sure baby was gaining by the time a new mamas milk supply came in and that baby was getting a good, solid latch. Dr also wanted to double check that we were adjusting well at home ❤ At this check, thr nurse would have done a pulse ox (it’s one of the five vital signs and you get it everytime you go to the dr), so any abnormal reading would warrant a formal investigation, regardless of being a newborn or not.
Quick note tho, tetralogy of fallout is almost always caught on ultrasound while still in utero. Due to the number of heart defects that go into the physiology of TOF, it’s hard to miss one. If it goes undetected and the infant survives birth, that baby should present fairly quickly. I’m shocked OP went longer than the hospital stay bc I have yet to come across one that didn’t present within hours of birth. Most TOF babies are extremely critical once born with most going straight into open heart surgery almost immediately after delivery. Of which, to keep these babies going into distress, are typically delivered via caesarean. Often we have mothers in recovery while their newborn is in surgery. ❤️
Best of luck, Hannah!
@Heather Z I forgot that in the US you have to always consider the cost. I have to add that my kids did their exams (EKG, heart ultrasound and Holter) free of charge in a public and very good children's hospital. So I guess you have to check with your doctor first if the benefits are bigger than the cost.
The “Monat Mary, Young Living Yolanda, Arbonne Ally” bit took me out 😆 hope you’re enjoying your well-deserved (and impeccably planned) maternity leave!!
1. Contact the IRS and report any discrepancy on a 1099. They will ask the company to provide proof payment was issued to and received by the rep. That could also lead to an audit for YL if enough people report it. 👀
2. Anyone who claimed income they didn't receive can file amended taxes. Another way to raise a flag against YL.
3. All MLMs seem to do this to people who leave. Several Monat reps have posted about not being paid out their final commissions.
4. The fact that so many didn't say anything prior to that rep's post shows how brainwashed they are into never saying anything against the MLM. Even after they leave.
Fyi on the young living thing: wage theft IS illegal. I think all those reps should get together and build a class action suit.
Young Living just...not paying people, and giving them 1099s that say they have, is flabbergasting.
I don’t comment on RUclips usually, but “Young Living Yolanda” made me laugh out loud 😂.
I snort giggled at Airbonne Ally. I would pay good money for a t-shirt with those terms on it with an anti MLM symbol on it. 😅🤣😂
The audible eye roll when the Seint rep said that telling people about things you like is the same as network marketing 😆
I’m so glad you touched base on the comment about how EVERYTHING is network marketing these days… I’m working on a horror story for you, because my best friend has been in an MLM for YEARS, I have so many details…buuut she brought up the other day how Target and Walmart are Network Marketing companies too….I just changed the subject because it’s like talking to a brick wall. I hate hearing it though…
So in regards to the Amway post I’d be happy to enlighten you as one who was a part of this MLM for years as were my parents. I am going to say this was probably an after seminar get together at the most local 24 hour cafe (we always went to Denny’s lol) These people have probably just been pumped and hyped up by listening to some top ranking speakers and will now get together discussing all they have heard and learned. The guy speaking is probably one of the mid ranking people and is sharing their “knowledge” of the business to help keep these people pumped and motivated. Showing them that even they can do it! I can tell you right now that my sympathies go out to any employee at this or any restaurant that gets bombarded with these groups as they will be fired up and on the prowl to recruit any one they come across in that place. Trust me I know. 😫😢
On top of everything you said about post partum recovery, you literally have a wound the size of a dinner plate from the placenta that needs to heal. That on top of pelvic floor, abdominal diastasis recti, your actual vag/vulva, and your mental state need time to heal! Like….let your mind and body heal. It’s like we all saw Heidi Klum return to modeling 6 weeks after birth, and we couldn’t forget it. We were under the impression that’s what we had to do. I will add I’m a hopeful mother one day, not currently. I did work at an OB/GYN and was the support person for my best friend, so I do have some knowledge and first hand witnessing to the birth process, and it further reiterated to me how much new moms deserve rest, peace, and recovery. Not external pressures to get back to it (it being work outs, pre baby weight, etc)
Excellent explanation of why we don't excercise too soon after labor. It's like being hit by a bus, it doesn't matter how good of shape you were in previously, you need time to heal.
Hannah, I just wanted to thank you for your videos, which were my gateway into anti-MLM. I was watching only true crime creators when you were suggested to me when you had only two anti-MLM videos. You're clearly a teacher (as am I -- EFL) and I've used your videos in my lessons, because you speak clearly and the speech-generated CC actually matches what you're saying. That's a huge compliment, I think. 😉 I had no idea the pervasiveness of MLMs (or even what they were) until you so, again, thank you! My students are now very well-versed in "business opportunities" to avoid.
I have a friend that has been selling YL for a number of years now and who mentioned recently that she was constantly worried about her YL paycheck so I wonder if it has to do with things like this. I refuse to participate in the whole MLM thing so we don't discuss her "business" but I hope she manages to get out before she gets completely screwed over.
I have a friend who was deep into YL also. But as of the last 4 months or so, I don't really see her posting or mentioning it anymore. Hope she too got out & or gets out & doesn't get screwed over either
I'm a certified prenatal postnatal fitness trainer, not a doctor. In my professional opinion, I would never recommend exercise this soon after pregnancy, however, some doctors will tell women they can go back to the same exercise immediately after birth. Since I'm not a doctor I have to defer to their opinion.
I was pitched Amway at a Village Inn. A couple years later I went to Village Inn and noticed possibly 1/2 the people in the restraunt were being pitched Amway. I thought it was kind of tragic for the servers. I can't imagine they got a lot of tips off their tables.
Omg. I'm so glad someone finally mentioned crunchy. Two girls I went to school with are currently in it and posting ad nauseum on Instagram. Both mothers. Both very religious. One posts things saying that the husband is in charge and you should obey him, etc etc per bible scriptures. Big yikes.
When I was drinking the bodi kool aid, I was part of a facebook group under a "coach". There were women who had to take a break for various medical reasons. Every one was like hey uhm do not push yourself. You need to rest your body so that it can recover. Do what you need to do with your medical physio first. The "coach" even backed that up so seeing this woman put her body at risk is really scary. .
As a PT student, thanks for the shout out of pelvic floor PT!!!
Looks to me like Young Living is in dire straits. I predict that their next move will be to collect their representatives' misleading (non-compliant) claims and fire them all for non-compliance. This gives them a valid reason not to pay out commissions.
Re tax - I worked for a tax professional company that did this. It wasn't an MLM but was a horrible, toxic place (multiple people got diagnosed with PTSD from it). People can report to IRS and most states. Some states are very likely to pursue, others and IRS less so, or at least takes longer. For those not interested, I suggest talking with a CPA or tax attorney who handles income tax. I've has these conversations, including without charge, because sometimes people need help but really don't need to hire me. I'd suggest CPA first, though, as they have more leeway in advising often.
Thanks for the PSA on shaken baby syndrome and PPD/PP life. There's so much more that taking a moment can protect from as well.
Can confirm. ALL of Hannah’s videos are binge able 🤗🤗💐
Thank you Hannah for all of your work. Hope you’re able to get some decent rest during this stage in your pregnancy (I have 3 kidlets, so I understand how difficult, and downright uncomfortable/painful, it is)
Is she using her tragedy of what happened to her baby to sell her MLM? Wow, she is really brainwashed into the MLM. This is so sad!!
I had hard time walking at all 2 weeks post partum, crying in pain due to bottom stitches for weeks. Idea of exercise so soon makes me cringe.
When my parents, and then me later, were in Amway, we would go to restaurants after meetings they would hold at hotels. Probably a 24 hour IHOP because it's still open. The meetings are largely inspirational (to get you "fired up" about the business) and participants were so wired afterwards that the after meetings at the restaurants would go on for a while. Seriously, Amway was a trip!
I do the exact same thing as a sole proprietor! I put away 35%. That way I have it if the government takes it all or it's like a nice little refund at the end of the year If I have enough expenses to write off
Smart. My now ex was in real estate and did not provide for his income taxes but told me he was. Wow, getting my checking account seized for his unpaid quarterly tax payments sure woke me up to his lies.
@@carolsummers8734 oh no that SUCKS!!! People who don't know how to save for taxes probably shouldn't be in business
The 2 a.m. pancake house meeting!!! wtfffff I'm dying 🤣🤣
When I was in college, I worked at a Cracker Barrel. Amway used to come every Monday night and leave at close. We would practically have to kick them out. They were very kind (because they were trying to recruit) and tipped pretty well, also. The group was so large because we were not far from the Corporate location.
I am bewildered at the fact that you (a great mom with a healthy child) took the time to give a great method to dealing with emotions that might lead to shaken baby syndrome, but the woman going through a traumatic event took the time to pitch her mlm. Absolutely wild stuff.
The Amway thing is called a “night owl” and they literally about nothing. It’s all empty motivational speaking and telling you how to recruit people. It’s very dumb
The woman in clip 3 makes me wonder if part of the reason that MLMs are so popular is due to the scarcity and uncertainty that young parents face in the United States because of our poor healthcare infrastructure, high costs of healthcare, and poor social safety nets like little to no mandated parental leave from work and outrageous childcare costs.
That’s tax fraud. Reporting withheld income on a 1099 is illegal and they should sue them. The woman just having her accountant reduce the income instead of demanding a corrected 1099 could result in her being audited by the IRS and having to pay the taxes on top of fees and interest depending on what the IRS concludes.
Girl, let me tell you about the ridiculous amount of unsolicited advice that I received when I was pregnant. Everything I was doing was wrong, I should eat this, I should do this exercise, I should listen to Mozart, I should take this supplement. I simply said, yeah, I'll ask my Doctor. The weirdest piece of advice I got? Get rid of my cats, because if I let them sit on my stomach or sleep next to the baby as a newborn, they will *steal the baby's soul*. I'm not joking, this woman told me that with a straight face. And this was only 17 years ago. I laughed. What else can you do? Enjoy your beautiful baby, you're going to be a wonderful mom. :)
I’ve seen people post in my local Fb groups that they’re giving away their cat because they’re having a child. They’ll say the cat is super sweet so it’s not even a behavioral issue. Can’t even imagine what misinformation they must have had to do that. Those poor cats.
young living is drowning financially, savannah marie has a bunch of videos on this topic. wouldn’t shock me at all to find that they’re withholding terminated reps’ income as part of some last-ditch attempt to preserve cash flow and hoping the reps either don’t notice, don’t think it’s worth it to call out, or it’ll take long enough to correct that they’ll either have recovered or gone completely out of business 😅
I think the best thing to do if you want to get out of an MLM is to go a couple months with no sales then quit. If you quit while they still owe you money it's kind of like to have you over a barrel.
I love when there is a new upload as soon as I start searching for something to listen to at work!
Many large businesses (hospital/med school/senior center for example in our area) are comfortable functioning with a “loose moral compass”.
They will take advantage of anyone they can.
The fact that they say conduct put a hold on her account the literal day she quit… like come the fuck on that reads as purposefully withholding money from someone for leaving the company
Sidenote- But if Young Living is in the negative while at the same time stealing literal thousands from their own distributors, they really are crashing and burning more than I thought
Young living in benefiting by writing off all of that extra money on their income just by those comments alone that's probably $50,000 that they're not having to pay taxes on. they absolutely need to be audited and investigated by the IRS. this might hopefully get their company shut down
A tip from a mother of 4 kids under 6, regarding sbs. It will not affect your baby at all long term to let them cry for a few minutes. What I suggest is swaddling baby if they like it so they still feel comforted, leave the area so that you cannot hear them cry at all! Or use headphones if you can’t get away. Set a timer for 5-10 minute and just have a snack/ walk around/ lay down and breath. I had to do this often with my youngest because she did not like to fall asleep without me and rocking her to sleep plus my 1 year old also needing attention plus my 2 older boys playing loudly would make me so over stimulated.
Your little wave when she said "accounts dedicated to tearing down MLMs" made me giggle
They absolutely need to contact the irs. The irs would LOVE to hear about that
Young Living can spend thousands on their horses but not pay their consultants what they are owed? SMH
Tax fraud. They get a credit for claiming they paid you this money. They need to fill out a the tax fraud reporting form but I can't remember the number. If they all do it, they can start a large scale investigation.
No baby has EVER died from crying alone for a few minutes in their crib with nothing in it. So right
How has the IRS not gotten involved with that?????
If she rejects that income and tells the IRS she didn't get it, the company may be able to then turn around and say she admitted she wasn't entitled to it so she needs to be VERY careful.
Ehh not necessarily. The way she worded it was something like “money owed was not received”, meaning she WAS entitled to it.
And she has a 1099 to prove it.
It SOUNDS like a standard measure they routinely do to hassle people who leave. Sort of like an MLM "Fair Game" policy. Plus, if the person has not checked their 1099 (as several of them said) they'd never know and the company keeps the money.
The FD thing...as a career firefighter, the MLM huns are almost as rampant as they are among military dependas. I was pitched DoTerra, Scentsy, Tupperware, pampered chef, and more in my firehouse.
The amway one looks like a night owl, or the bonus styled night owl where after a conference u would attend a night owl until the early hours of the morning then after being pressured to attend that they would try and pressure u into attending a breakfast or another gathering at another members house to continue more just for u to have another “conference” a couple hours later (learned this from my brief stunt in amway)
My wife was in Amway while she was my gf because I didn't want to tell her she's in a pyramid scheme and as her husband I made her leave. She wouldn't have listened to be back then anyway. These people believe that if you present as a successful person, people will want to join you. Ex wearing business/ business causal attire everywhere. At a conference i went with her just to be a supportive boyfriend, they would sit there for hours(like they would pack their own amway snacks and drinks because nothing was provided) listening to the typical mlm things about how they started even though only the people at the top ever spoke and no one was allowed to talk to these people at all or for to long unless you were also at the top rank. Then after the conference their uplines would tell them they're having a meeting because some people bring their potential recruits also. Basically all day and night they talked amyway. My wife went on team hikes in NC. These people are so brainwashed that if their upline told them to go to Walmart tonight and talk to random people and don't leave until you get 5 numbers because X did it they would.
When i say i made her it wasn't in an abusive way. I told her you need to pay off your debt then you can join afterwards if thats what you want and when she sat and thought about it she didnt want to go back. she spent over a 2 years and never once made a profit. I honestly think she only did it to make friends and just hoped she would somehow build a team. I mean her IG was private and she hates talking to strangers. She was spending ~$450/month on products and VIP access to motivation books and stories from the tippy top of the pyramid.
I hope you’re having a great maternity leave so far and we can’t wait to hear about your precious new baby! ❤
I rarely follow RUclips channels, but I adore Hannah and respect what she does. I hope she shows the baby in a video!! After her recovery and if she feels comfortable, of course. I'd pay good money for a little outfit saying "Anti MLM".
I had to stop working out at 5 months. I was huge and had severe pain when moving. I did small workouts on a ball until giving birth, but it was hard. Because I was so huge my spine suffered a lot of damage. I didn't know how much until I went to a doctor a year later when my backpain was getting worse. Now I'm in physical therapy and it'll take 6 months to a year to be in a place where I can work out as before.
I’m not sure how it is in other regions, but in my state, it is not required to have a makeup license to enter the cosmetology field. AND unless you go to a specialized cosmetic school which are few and far between (I don’t think there’s any left in my area, beauty schools hardly do ANY education on makeup application anyways.
So the Crunchy stats are actually par for the course in that industry.
Oh I had that pain with my second pregnancy, it was so rough. I was glad we lived in a one story house, but washer and dryer was in the basement, I couldn’t do the stairs in the last few months.
Omg! I also had SPD! My baby ended up being 10lbs8oz and I FEEL your pain..
I felt like my coochie was going to break in half whenever I walked, it was insane. Thankfully, it has subsided since, save for a few months of soreness if I walked too long.
Wishing you the best labour and delivery ♥️
I would love to be at an ihop at 2 am. It's near the top of my list of liminal spaces I'd like to hang out. Wouldn't do it for an mlm meeting tho.
Whether somebody isn’t good or bad standing, those are her conditions, even people who get fired get final checks.