Secrets of the Motorway - M74
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The M74 is a motorway that runs to Glasgow in Scotland... No, I'd not heard of it either, apparently there's a whole other country attached to the North of England... who knew.
In this weeks episode we'll be starting the process of working our way round the motorways across the mightily fine Scotland. There's much to discuss, such as neighbourhood gang warfare, old steelworks, viaducts and old junction designs. Thrilling.
In this series we aim to explore what our motorway network is hiding. As we drive along at 70mph..ish...we simply just wouldn't be aware of what we're missing. This series aims to uncover some of the hidden secrets our motorways have to offer.
“Nothing gets through fences as well as local youths”
The amount of truth in this statement cannot be disputed 😂
Look at 3:00 and you'll see people on the bridge.
@@Michael75579 Even from that distance they look a bit neddy.
@@gloriagayer4761 Not everyone may know what a “ned “ is - I do !
@@ronniel5941for non-Scottish folk, a Ned is equivalent to a Chav or NEET
@@Michael75579😅
Wait, hang on... A ghost slip road that got eventually used! 😮
Was about to post the same thing xD
So ghosts do exist.
Does that make it a "Zombie" slip road if it has reanimated?
Don't mean to sound heavy man, but what a comment on the society of today that for reanimation, we go straight to Zombies with nary a mention of Christian resurrection.
Yes, quite the rarity!
I hitched to Glasgow and beyond a couple of times in the early eighties, once we were picked up near Carlisle by a Scottish lorry driver who was an amature opera singer, his practice spot was from Gretna Green onwards whilst driving he sang in Italian a full hour then stopped at a services ate a huge dinner while we watched hungrily. Back on the road never said another word.
Still dropped us off in town, top man.
Thank you for sharing
😂 quality memory 👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻
Especially like the Scottish specific theme tune and it’s good to se that road planning/ construction up here is as abysmal the rest of the country 😂 and the Taggart theme must always be followed by “ There’s been a muurrder!”😂😂
There's been a murder!
Was that Taggart?
I thought it was pronounced "mudder".
"Call the Polis"!
@@yellowbird8690 You'd have to ask DC of F1 fame. His "muhruz" is without equal.
"Back in the day, when road-planners couldn't care less about anything.." It's quality writing like this that keeps us happy, Jon.
Glad to hear :)
Yeah, like the roundabout on the M77 heading into Ayr from the north. Hey, let's just add more lanes because we can. Who cares if a lane suddenly splits into three in the middle of the roundabout. 😅
You missed the really twisty bit a bit further south (or maybe that's for the A74(M). Two of the best bends in the whole network!!!! And, if you're lucky, you can race a train along that valley...
I love racing that train 😂
Best views ever on that stretch, shame those bloody wind turbines are starting to ruin it though.
They motorway itself is probably more of a scar.
The amount of times I've driven up there wanting to "race" a train... I've never seen one!!
Watch oot for the traffic polis, the trains go a bit faster than the M74 speed limit 😎
The 'secret' slip road to the northbound M74 at Junction 12 was mainly used as an access point by the SAS (Scottish Ambulance Service - not the elite hush, hush, bang, bang Army unit) crews, stationed at Douglas responding to incidents north of Junction 12, saving a 16 mile round trip via Abington.
You could do a full video on the B7076 and B7078, those are the remainder of the old A74 dual carriageway.
Its practically a motorway and almost abandoned, and theres plenty of completely abandoned parts of the old single carriageway Telford road.
Yes from Lesmahagow south you can see where they turned one side into a cyclepath
The bridge at Lesmahagow over the river Nethan sags slightly. The engineers apparently didn’t allow for the weight of the tarmac, etc when they put the steel in. Or so I was told when I worked on the 10 mile extension south from Blackwood in the mid 1980s. 5 miles of that stretch was built as continuous concrete pavement (no longer there) and cost £1m per mile. Couldn’t build a footpath for that now! It was really interesting to watch the train that laid the concrete in action. A very slick operation. Just a shame the carriageway made such a racket when you drove along it.
Thanks
The bagpipe version of your theme song got me to like this video immediately!
Another fascinating video Jon, only really know the M74/A74M from Junction 13 heading south so nice to learn more about the Glasgow Bound section.
John I absolutely love ❤️ your music 🎶 , especially this intro music, bagpipes. What will your Northern Ireland 🇮🇪 🇬🇧 Intro be?
Wicked, sweet, awesome!
Cheers mate
@@AutoShenanigans 👍🏻
im from glasgow and yes more motorways please
Nice work Jon. The ouror music reminds me that Taggart (there's bin a muuurdah) is available on the STV Streaming channel - rather fun to watch with dedicated Sots Ads.
Nice drone shot of castle dangerous in Douglas at the end.
Ah yes, the A74 section that one basically fell off the M6 onto; dual-carriageway and one frick of a bottleneck. Straight from cruising at motorway speeds to having agricultural vehicles (usually Ford TWs with hyawge twin-axle trailers) popping out from the curly sliproadettes to run at 37mph. Despite being a closet greenie I did welcome the direct M6 to M74 transition when it happened to eventually be built, and the old road is now a scenic bucolic alternative to dicing with reps in S-line A4s and M-sport (yeah, course Gavin) 318i’s. Nice.
Although I’ve never driven on the M74, I have been driven on it, for a short distance where it splits at the M77/M8 today … was a long time ago and remember very little - so this video was like watching a Motorway I’ve never visited! Splendid!
Hell, you stole my thunder with the M6 bit and the extension into Scotland.
At the time it was said that there were political issues with having an "English" motorway (the M6) in Scotland, hence the cobbled together A74(M)/M74 business. The obvious answer would have been to use the missing M7 designation since England has the A1-A6 and M1 - M6 and Scotland has the A7-A9 but only the M8 and M9.
Would have but there are rules up here that a motorway gets the number of the road that it is relieving/replacing. Hence the weird M898. So the M7 would be a Carlisle to Edinburgh route.
I’m sure the roadwork signs used to say “A74 upgrade to M6” or something like that… I drove the road often during that period, and did wonder relatively recently what happened with the name change.
I think politics blocked it.
You should come look at the A8/M8 running alongside Coatbridge, used to be pretty simple, A8 ran alongside Coatbridge and there were no real dramas, then they decided to make a whole load of changes which meant the main M8 would no longer come onto the A8 but instead they created a new road where the M8 would then run straight through, no longer goes onto the A8. Great idea in principle, but they left the A8 high and dry along with Coatbridge. Before, you could easily get in and out of Coatbridge using the A8 as it joined into the M8, now coming into Coatbridge from the East you have to come off some few miles beforehand and negotiate a road running parallel with the new M8, hitting roundabouts and confusing lane changes, coming West you have to come off earlier than you would normally too and drive through residential streets and pretty much all the way through Coatbridge to get to the other end (as opposed to having came off at the normal junction before which you now cannot). It's improved nothing, on paper it might looks great but in reality it's a joke.
I regularly drive under the 74 at Draffen, we live about a mile away!
The abandoned buildings were part of Jimmy Wilsons farm, he built them as follys for his kids and the way they look now was exactly as intended. Rumour has it that he rode up and down the M74 in his horse and cart to protest it being built through his farm.
That car must be clocking up a bit. 😂
Johhnnyy!!!!!!!! you crazy son of a b****!!!!! you did it again!!! GOOD STUFF!!!!!!
Thanks!
Thanks a lot mate :)
I love this show!
Another great video and the ending shot was superb.
That footage at 3:00 looks for all the world like the local young team encircling the hapless drone pilot ready to deprive him of his toy and drop him in the river below. Even as that wasn't the case, you were lucky it didn't get shot down.
Closing in on 100k subscribers John - wicked sweet awesome!
I love motorway driving in Scotland. Big roads that outside of the major cities are pretty much empty.
I noticed that... it's wonderful.
Great vid as always! Where was the ending shot at? Building looks interesting!
Cheers mate, It's Douglas castle!
Interesting you start the video at Polmadie Bridge(in the old Richmond Park), Oatlands district...next to the famous, or infamous, Gorbals!
awesome
I like the outro music
I live in Motherwell and use the M74 all the time, nice to see it on here 👍
Me and mrs wife visit Moffat quite a bit which is J 15 on the A74 (M).
But after watching this episode it’s totally irrelevant for me even to mention it. Oh well, at least you know 👍🏼
Could have played the Rab C Nesbitt theme, but thought the better of it..."Shee uuu! Shtick urr em shix ap urr jaaz drrum an geba ta eatn crrompets, ya wee £@%$#*?!" 😂
I don’t live in Glasgow, but use the motorways there a fair amount. My main grumble (other than the numerous potholes) it the crazy motorway numbering changes! I’m used to them now more-or-less, but chopping and hanging the numbers often with changing motorways makes driving around the south of the city to access Erskine Bridge is a headache to people who’d never used the before!
Should you get up to the Falkirk area you should end the video with the old sitcom theme "The High Life" that starred Alan Cummings.
Old Water Tower Turbine at the end there.
I've never been to the UK, but I'm sure I know more about your motorways history than most locals. My grandparents came from Scotland, hope to visit someday. Your outros are the best, gives me a taste of what it looks like. Thanks John.
I'm sure you know more about the M85 than anyone local to it. /s
The theme tune :D love it!
There are some very strange design of junctions on this motorway, not that other motorways don't have odd designed junctions.
There is actually still at least one sign saying "M6" as you join the A74M.
What is the Scottish Intro music called? I know his English intro is Blakey's Burnout and his Welsh intro is Ivor The Engine, but what about the Scottish Intro? I've been trying to find this music for a year now!
Awesome Video
"temporary sliproad" lasting quarter of century is just the embodiment of governmental funding proceses.
It sums it up nicely :D
You were a stones throw away from Treenus and you didn't mention it!
Having recently moved into the area I think it would have been a nightmare if they'd built all the motorways in Glasgow. The whole "urban motorways" ideal of the post war years does make some sense in purely traffic movement terms but far less so when you are talking about a living environment. So, other than trying to make some bits actually work (like the M74 meeting the M8) we try and build by-pass motorways. This leads to the modern day assertion that motorways dont join places, they avoid places, so are , in effect, roads to nowhere.
Personally, I dont think it makes any sense to have M74 and A74(M) when its one and the same road. As for it being the M6....theres an argument, obviously, but also its a different country.
Nahhh. Dried up oxbow lake mate.
I might have to watch this several times to take it in. It has more convolutions that a contortionist.
cool intro music
There’s been a murdah!
Yes they should’ve built the full motorways. While I’m here, DUAL THE A77 & A75!
Just out of curiosity, was that bridge full of youths at 3.01 what you was mentioning?
Yes it was.
@@AutoShenanigans Yikes. Was it you that captured it as well? I am soon travelling to the area and love exploring, was going to see the location but if its got anti social activities, I might rethink things, lol. Thanks also for replying, keep up the good vids.
They didnt break the fence to be fair, it was like that when we all turned up. You'll be alright, give it a go.
@@AutoShenanigans Lol and true. With this summer, it'll be a sure treatment for my bipolar as it's recently been acting up, lol. I also look forwards to your next video :)
Welcome to Scotland. There aren't many motorways in Scotland, so I assume the series is nearing an end. What do you have planned for Sundays after that?
Not to worry, there's loads of motorway left for us to get stuck into.
Hello Jon, how the devil are you, have you had a good week?
Will there a story for A74(M)?
We stay near junction 8 of the m74 greetings from Scotland 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧there’s been a murder
What's the outro music? I know it from somewhere.
Tagget for the music?
so if the m6 would of gone up to glasgow then would it of taken a different route
5:44 It’s m8 not m77
Yeah.. messed it up didnt it.
Is there some kind of fine if you use these ghost slip roads intended for emergency and authorized vehicles? Like, will you get into trouble using them, f.e. if you missed an exit or just need to get there and want to get faster?
Well, they generally have a "No entry, except for emergency vehicles" sign on them, so you run the risk of a three points penalty and a fine. Having said that, there are one or two which the locals use all the time, because they know the chances of being caught are virtually zero. You do so entirely at your own risk of course, and as I said... that risk varies from a ticking off from a traffic cop, to three or more points and a hefty fine.
Hopefully the famous ski ramps will be covered with the M8 - now that's going to be a fun episode!
...and the Teletubbies horn!
He's going to have a field day describing J15-J19, which is a contender for the best example of the worst of British roadbuilding.
All part of the proposed Glasgow Inner Ring Road, which was planned at the time of building the M8 through Glasgow
@@drmal every time I drive past the horn I always day "Time for Tubbies bye bye"
@@TheCptES British or Scottish rd building ?🤷♂️
Thanks
Nice one bruva, hope you are well.
@@AutoShenanigans All good this end my friend....and I hope you are too. Please keep up your funny and fascinating episodes. That 100k will soon come :-) 👋👋👍
The M74 extension, in my opinion, was much needed as it cut out the diversion onto the M8 through possibly its busiest section at Townhead. When I used to go up and down to Newcastle on a regular basis, it saved me about 30 minutes per journey.
My wife used to work for Strathclyde Council. The M74 extension used to be shelved and resurrected regularly for decades. It used to be said, only half jokingly, that half the civil engineers in Scotland got their charterships on the strength of designing motorway structures for it that were ultimately never built.
The M74 extension was a welcome addition, as it means I can travel on dual carriageway from Ayr to York near enough all the way. (This will change when they dual more of the A66) Especially since they build the A/M77 ( which I worked on)
I'm surprised you missed the "M6 South" sign at the DVSA Weighstation (Southbound) exit between junctions 14 (Crawford) and 15 (Moffat) when you did the M6 bit.
42 miles from the actual M6. (visible on google street view)
@@roderickmain9697 M6 muliplex....
I was surprised he missed that as well. Also the M74 sign at Gretna Services rather than A74(M)
It’s on the A74(M) rather then the M74 so maybe it will get a mention when he does the Secrets of the A74(M).
Great to have an exciting episode on my local Motorway! Incidentally, everyone refers to the A74(M) section as the M74 - I don't know why they don't just change the name.
Loving the Taggart theme 😂 No Mean City
ah so it was the Taggart theme tune, i thought it was but wasn't 100% certain
DCI Burke looking at a deid roads planner and telling DS Reid that "there's been a murder". He always stated the obvious.
Theres been a murdur
The m74 south of Abbington is an amazing bit of civil engineering, it goes over such harsh and wild terrain!
It's like a wild and woolly version of Outrun!!
I remember in the late 80s there was an M74 laboratory somewhere in the bit between the M6 and the M74 (proper) and I remember thinking "How hard could it be ?" !
@@interpolpirate I agree. It's stunning.
My grandad was involved in the construction of the original part aka the A74 in the late 50s/early 60s. He'd probably be amazed at what it looks like now since he unfortunately passed in 1988.
there's a really good old film on here from BTS (I think) which covers the building of it at the time.
The M74 makes no sense… especially with this A74 (M) nonsense from Abington to Gretna . Should just have been a continuation of the M6
If you look on street view at the DVSA weight station near Biggar, you'll see an M6 South road sign on the exit road.
5:41 The road on the right is the M8, not M77
I remember before jct 12 was amended for the A70 to go under it, previous to that the 74 and 70 were a crossroads and it was like whacky races getting across it 😱
I remember trying to get to Douglas was a bloody nightmare
I think I can speak on behalf of all 91k subscribers to say that we are thoroughly looking forward to the third M6 video that will no doubt cover the access points from the Charnock Richard services and also the excellent junctions for Wigan and Parbold, Standish & Chorley. Or perhaps this is being saved for a 'summer special' like the Beano and Dandy had in days of yore? In any case, this was a fine video on the M74, and I hope you drank a pint of heavy at the end of a hard day's filming....
Or is he a Tennants light man ? 🤔
Jon did mention at the end of the previous video (M6 part 2) the rest would be saved for a later date, and he would be exploring another motorway in between
Spent 6 hours in Charnock Richard Services waiting for a lift. never been so happy to get into a strangers car.
Hate Parbold slip rd as no cnt will let you onto the motorway. Wigan is Ok if taken slowly and the slip rd off the M6 is a pain for diks trying to force in the slow lane at the last second and try forcing you too fast for the curve.
@@willtricks9432 well I slept the night under a staircase at charnock Richard services (back in '87) Never hitch-hike with a 'Girlie' unless she's a 'Stunner' !
Perhaps you could investigate why the M6 and A1(M) terminated at Greta and Newcastle respectively? Why it took until 2008 to connect Glasgow to the south with a motorway and why there is still no motorway south from Edinburgh to Newcastle?
"no motorway south from Edinburgh to Newcastle" That's because the English think that Glasgow is the capital of Scotland so ignore Edinburgh.
The relatively new dual stretches of the A1 have motorway rules, so perhaps the idea was that they could be re-designated motorways in future.
I think that is down to transport in Scotland being a devolved matter. Scotland's road system is financed, built and maintained by Transport Scotland under the direction of the Scottish parliament who set priorities which may be different to the English authorities.
If you drive along the A1 from Edinburgh to Newcastle, the terrain doesn't lend itself well to being a motorway. I think most of it is likely a funding issue as a result. Edinburgh has part of the A1 (about a 15 mile section) as an expressway, marked with 70mph signs (not national speed limit) and vans are permitted to go at 70mph and lorries at 60mph on this section, like a motorway; traffic types are also restricted the same as a motorway.
Through Berwickshire and near Dunbar, you'd struggle to follow the A1 route and would need to build the motorway another way and re-designate the existing A1 as a different A road.
Because the SNP dont want another connection to England 😂
@@David8n It'll be slightly more complicated than that but essentially you are right. If there was any attempt to upgrade the A1, It'll also be likely come down to trying to get Westminster to partially pay for the project as improving the A1 would benefit those travelling south to England as well as North to Scotland.
It's possible that that is why extending the M6 North from Carlisle to the border took so long to be built. The same situation is definitely partially responsible for it taking so long for the A8 to be upgraded to Dual carriageway in Northern Ireland.
@ 7:54. It s the futur of motoring they said. Not one of the regular EV (8) chargers is being used and only 2 of the Tesla.
Meanwhile every one of those ICEs in the carpark could be filled from empty by the adjacent petrol station by 8 fuel pumps in 39 minutes for the entire car park. Lol.
The map of the proposed motorway at 5:42 has an error. that is the M8. the M77 would be the other direction. The a725 upgrade at Junction 5 is a massive improvement. traffic was a nightmare. It would be nice if there was a motorway here as it would link the M77 the m74 and m8 together bypassing Glasgow and all the roundabouts at East Kilbride. Would serve much of the south of glasgow as well as EK, Bellshill Coatbridge would be fastest route from Edinburgh to Ayrshire. Would just make sense and if you look on the map there is room to squeeze it in
Was just about to comment the same thing. However, they are currently upgrading Airbles Road in Motherwell and have installed a new bridge under the WCML to create a dual carriageway from junction 6 of the M74 up to Eurocentral on the M8.
Maryhill road in glasgow from city centre to canniesburn toll should have been a motorway and the start would have been the mysterious dead-end slip road that would have left from the off-side lane next to Stow College building! Can you imagine! So many houses would have been demolished in the process
Bollocks
You should do a video of the old A74 route lots of old dual carriageway sections still there , also a great driving road too.
Looking forward to the M8 even more now.
That'll probably have the theme tune to Rebus lol
@@stephenduncan3605 I thought that to, but it's pretty obscure (sorry Ian Rankin). The only others I could think of would be The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie, or Trainspotting. Incidentally there's currently a film crewed based in Cameron Toll car park working on a new Rebus adaptation.
I can't believe you missed Treenis/Penis Hill near Abington services! It's a load of trees on the hill that look like a giant phallus!
Not just me that thinks that then.. I did notice it but couldn't find anything good to talk about. Other than it looks like a pen1s :D
On the subject of the M74 signage all being printed as M6 then plated over, the sountbound on-ramp to the A74(M) at Gretna services was signed for years as M6. The direction signs said A74(M) South / Carlisle but the actual sign to tell you what road you were going on to just said M6. It was only in the last 10 years or so it got redone to say M74. Still wrong.
Could you explain to us why Scottish motorways always have a 70 mph sign, whereas noone bothers signing this anywhere else as it's obvious?
I hadn't noticed until filming this vid.. it's weird.
@5:43 You've got the M74 marked correctly but you marked the A8 as the M77. The M77 is on the southside of Glasgow.
Think it's supposed to be M73 as its on the line of the current A73 and that already has loads of areas that were originally planned to be motorway... but it never got done.
They've only recently raised the railway bridge every double decker lorry would hit while trying to avoid the Raith interchange 😂
Yeah messed that one up a bit.
I'm a yank that's been watching all your vids for a few months and I still have absolutely no idea how your road system is actually supposed to work but I know I'm never trying to drive on it.
inb4: Americas isn't better by any means. We're stroad hell everywhere. But at least it's predictable. o.O
@@FatherDraven Oh yeah, stroads for days, but I will say the US Interstate network is robust and logical, and actually makes it easy to navigate most of a journey without even needing GPS, road atlas, or a map/compass to do so.
It's not so bad once you have a little experience, but even as a native I've found myself increasingly using GPS. One problem is that we have a lot of new or enlarged roads rammed into places they were never originally intended for, and it can mean lots of off-ramps very close together.
Believe it or not the planned urban motorway network in and around Glasgow was heavily influenced by studying Los Angeles. Where of course there are never any tailbacks..........
Although the upgraded A74 south of Douglas is officially the A74(M) anyone I speak to about simply calls it the M74. The original plan was indeed for it to become an extension of the M6. I remember when it was being built in the 90s that there were signs up for M6 Construction Traffic. However nationalism apparently got in the way and the Scots stated that they didn’t want an English motorway and the existing M6 south of the border could just as easily be renamed the M74. That is true of course but a bit petty IMO. So M6 was dropped and the overly wordy A74(M) used instead.
Arguably, the A74(M) is more of a motorway than the M74. It’s a six lane road for a start, much of the M74 is only four lanes. Heading North, you enjoy a relatively empty six lane A74(M) and as soon as you approach civilisation and the inevitable increase in traffic, you find yourself on a barely adequate four lane M74.
All of which has got little to do with this video as the M74 still starts or ends near Douglas and I’m hoping there will be an A74(M) episode soon.
Yeah and the lights stop after Hamilton. Always found that a bit strange the way they just end there.
Nothing to do with nationalism. Scottish rules state a motorway has to be numbered the same as the A road it's replacing, hence it can't be either M6 or M7 as neither is the Carlisle to Glasgow Road.
0:35 The motorway was under construction for 45 years, not over 50. That would mean that the M74 could have either been one of Britain's first (1961) or one of its most recent (2016) motorways!
Are you going to do the A74M? There seem a few oddities even I've spotted....eg at J15, there is a mile gap between the Southbound off and on slips, and at the very southern end (J45 of the M6, the Northbound entry slip and Southbound exit slip roads exist - but aren't accessible, which is very strange!
The M74 motorway would of gone all the way down from Glasgow to Carlisle and to meet up with the M6 motorway and to renumber the A74(M) as the M74 motorway. Which the old A74 road used to go from Carlisle to Glasgow before it was replaced by the A74(M) and M74.
Perhaps the M6 motorway would of gone all the way to Glasgow instead making it the longest motorway in the UK from Rugby to Glasgow. And the M74 would of connected from M6 to M77 south of Glasgow.
Totally agree about the A725 - it should link M8, M74 and M77 better than it does. Coming from the east, and not necessarily having to go through Glasgow (say heading down south, or down to Stranraer for the ferry) it would be a winner. Same for something better than the A701 from Abington to Edinburgh.
The road from Larkhall towards Ayr is the shortcut going to Stranraer. But aye the southern motorway on that pic should have definitely been built, even if it was to bypass a lot of traffic from going though Glasgow that would have made sense. That EK expressway is rotten. That wouldn't be a problem if it existed.
Also really looking forward to your take on the M876 motorway.. oh and I’ll be very disappointed if you don’t do a full episode on the M898 lol 😂
Yes I'm still undecided on what to do with the M898. It needs a video, but... yeah how crap will that be.
@@AutoShenanigans there is a good video on here somewhere of the Erskine bridge being built which could be mentioned. as well as the oil rig hitting it. Then there was the old toll booths at the end of the M898 which looked like reliant robins :P and umm they have done some rebuilding on the junction with the M8 yeah that one is gonna be hard
Another bit of M74 trivia you missed, originally it was numbered south to north, with Draffan being J1. When they started to build southwards it was reversed, with the Raith staying as J5. There also used to be a sliproad off the northbound A74 at Kirkmuirhill onto Strathaven Road. Great to see the old Draffan loop sliproad by drone, and there used to be a railway bridge over the A74 nearby
I always think of this as the M6 but with a big identity crisis. A bit like your unmarried uncle who has been M6 for most of his life but got to his mid forties and started getting a bit glam (A74M) then comes out as your new post-op Aunty M74, if you see what I mean.
This was even more fun than the comic section of a 1980s Sunday Post!
@5.46. I think you have the M77 mistaken for the M8.
yes I have
Next Sunday, you should do the M8 unless you’re gonna do part three of the M6
You didn’t mention that the M74 was originally supposed to connect onto the M8 Kingston Bridge but instead heads West on the M77/M8 🤷♂️