I named my son Julian, partly inspired by Dr Bashir from DS9. I hated him the first season or two but by the end he was fantastic. Almost all the characters were.
Oh. On reading that I thought you meant you hated your son for his first few seasons of life, but he got better. Hm. Perhaps that's most parents experience...
Oh my goodness, finally, some good old fashioned Ben Russel on the podcast. Always love it when you have guests. Helps keep things fresh after all this time.
Been waiting for that ben russell guest episode ever since the show got cancelled because of covid and it was great. Loved your chemistry, i hope you bring him back at some point, cheers
Majel Barret didn't just come back as the computer in TNG, she came back as Nurse Chapel AND the computer in TOS, and then of course Troi's mother in TNG.
My family think I'm crazy now cus I said Westworld out loud and James didn't.....I got weird looks and asked what I'm doing? Also think for stupid fun you should do a big video on the Bionicle Trilogy, they're too short for 3 videos over 3 weeks but who knows
Cowboy Hatman needs to learn how to write and direct live-action better before that happens, every episode of Mando that he's been at the helm of has been atrocious.
@@jimjam7928 nice H8 mail. You think the pilot of the Mandalorian, and the episode where Fennic Shand is shot and left for dead, AND the episode that Ahsoka Tano's live action character is introduced are atrocious??
James said he wished Ferris was killed in that parade, and yesterday there was a mass shooting at the 4th of July Parade in the town where the movie takes place :/
I feel like people wouldn’t care that much if Star Wars just did a movie in an era that’s so far detached from the shit we know that there’s literally not even mentions of anything we would recognize. I don’t really see why they couldn’t and haven’t already just done that, especially when it comes to the old republic stuff. Those comics and video games and pretty much anything that takes place during that era is insane, because the old republic just had everything. The sith have a fully realized empire, the republic have their democracy spread out all over the core worlds, the mandalorians are just out there and will start a war with the republic simply for the sake of honor and because they can. There’s just so much shit in that era that’s literally UNTOUCHED by the small and big screen I don’t understand why this isn’t just a no brainer for them. At this point people are so sick of Star Wars it’s probably to late to be able to take a risk like that, but this is something that Disney could easily be able to do if they just found someone to helm this franchise. Actually helm it though, not that I’m here hating Kathleen Kennedy but letting a bunch of Star Wars directors just do whatever they want and hoping the trilogy comes together in the end is probably not a great idea typically speaking. And hindsight has definitely shown this to be true.
What's really funny about the whole Iron Man discussion is that they _do_ have a running bit throughout the movies that Tony "doesn't like to be handed things", which would have worked perfectly with the idea that Tony was using a hologram of himself to hide the fact that he's in the suit. Having said that, I prefer the way they use it with Loki and Thor, which probably wouldn't have happened if they were using the same gimmick with Iron Man. Also, gotta admit What We Reading without Westworld felt weird, but looking forward to the shiny new age of Letters Oh Letters We Love You Some Westworld.
I went to see "Meet the Feebles" at the movies with some friends when we were WAY to young (like 10 or something). It was awesome. We loved it. But we watched a half packed cinema walk out group after group over the course of the first 40 minutes until we were literally the only ones left. Which just made it even better.
The Westworld joke has become an intriguing Pavlov's Dog experiment. It's been happening for so long that I believe both we and James have been conditioned to need it.
I think the Weeknd's wordplay was with a Bentley Wraith / Wraith of Kahn. Actually kind of a fun line for the small venn diagram of pop-hiphop fans and TOS fans lol. Also enjoy your well deserved break fellas and ladies. Maybe by the time youre back we will have forgiven you for that whole purple beam in Moon Knight disaster....but I doubt it.
To your letters, I never have left a theater but I fell asleep about 40 minutes in to Pearl Harbor and a theater employee woke me up during the credits.
Enjoy the break. Not the worst thing for me, either, because now I can finally catch up on some of the movie commentaries that I never have time to get to.
I vividly remember being 16 years old, going to watch Justice League in theaters and walking out after the Parademon scene, I simply could not waste my time watching that. I walked into a theater playing Thor Ragnorok and rewatched the movie instead.
Awesome ep. You're confusing Brannon Braga with Rick Berman as far as the DS9 and Terry Farrell trouble. Berman was the head of Trek from TNG to Enterprise. Often this is called "The Berman " era. A number of cast members have complained about him over the years, including Denise Crosby, Ferrell and Will Wheaton.
Braga was bit of a dick too, but mainly towards other writers, I think. Berman liked him tho, and would probably have had him write everything in order to cut costs.
I came back from some kind of a school break and my boss who never spoke to me actually asked me if I did anything fun, and I said I saw Ghostbusters 2016 and enjoyed it way more than I’d ever liked Bill Murray’s bad attitude in the original one, and I think he tried to be polite but he basically just grunted ‘okay’ at me, and I feel like I must be condensing events together in my mind, but my memory is that he was literally receiving a delivery at that moment and it was a vintage Ghost Busters movie poster in a fancy frame for his office wall. He didn’t even have any other fancy frames on his office wall. That was his one pick.
Great episode! I would love Caravan of Garbage to tackle to complete TNG movies. "First Contact" is a fantastic S.T. film, and the next two are a bit of a mixed bag. However, "Nemesis" has definitely has a great Jerry Goldsmith score and it has some good action scenes and interesting concepts. With S.T. Picard wrapping up with Season 3, I think it would be a fun re-watch and critique.
I love all of them, Nemesis not so much...but I'm still a defender of it. First Contact is great, my non-Trekkie wife watched it and was into it the whole time without knowing any character other than "robot guy" "that klingon dude you quote" and "Professor X".
I feel like I’m missing the reference to the ghostbuster slimmer video. Anyways how about a ghostbuster sequel where the current gang, whomever they may consist of, dies at some point early on and then part of the narrative is about them being ghosts, exploring the ghost realm which is like this Beetlejuice version of New York and have to find someway to come back by the end… and uhhh maybe if you need a more child friendly transition away from death and resurrection you could just say the current antagonist possessed a few of them and when their bodies are possessed they become disembodied spirits. I’m not saying it would be good, just that it would be different.
It would help to get the character dynamics, but on the whole they're pretty self contained so it's not required viewing I think. You could watch one or two of the really good ones (try Balance of Terror and Space Seed for example) and then jump right into the movies. Or just watch the movies and if you enjoy them you can check back to get some more Kirk, Spock and Bones.
Only time I left a movie was jurassic park 3 was too scary for a 7 year old me And I think enter the void could get you to stop watching because of visual gore
Strange New World is an incredible show AND incredible Star Trek show. Fun fact, the name for the series was supposed to be Blue Harvest ! How about that ?
Wow I’m truly disgusted, The Hollywood Reporter sourced the Weekly Planet in its article about Daredevil and Kingpin but failed to mention “Hot Scoop, or Shot of Poop”.
In the Chronicles of Riddick, who are the chronicles about? Is he chronicling his own adventures, or is someone else chronicling his adventures for him?
I just wanna say, in the weeknd song, he knows its wrath, he just says wraith because it's the name of the car and kind of sounds like wrath I know this podcast episode is like 3 years old
I respect the fact that you guys don't care about comments 😁🍻... That said, the actor that played Pike declined to participate in the series once it got picked up, which is why Kirk was captain.
I'm going to spend the rest of this month finding out where Mason lives and then I am going to spend every night of August tapping on his window and asking him questions about Captain Butler.. Tap, tap, tap "Hey Mason, Have you ever seen Captain Butler?" Tappyy-tap-tap tap "It's got Craig Charles in it, Mason. Have you seen it, Mason?" Rat-ta-tat-tat "Hey Mason, its got Sanjeev Bahskaar, did you know that Mason?" [sound of wet fish being thrown at a window] "Did you know that the guy that plays Kryten has some very dodgy ideas and he stars as Nelson in Captain Butler? DID YOU KNOW THAT MASON?!"
Seasons 3 and 4 are pretty good, the first two seasons lack all kind of momentum. Because it is widescreen and shot in HD it looks quite a lot better than Voyager and Deep Space Nine, that makes it easier to watch than those two at least.
Last week, for the first time ever I stopped watching a movie before the end. Men. I just didn't like the supporting characters and wasn't sure where it was going. I watched a review and... damn, everything was for a reason, I should have kept watching. The ending, whoa.
The Modern era of Trek is bizarre.... The show I totally expected to be "Family Guy in Space", The Orville, is actually really good comedy Star Trek. And the show that should be Star Trek, Lower Decks, is basically "Family Guy in Space". Ugh
Seriously just do a joint Superman and Wonder Women movie where they take supermans ship, lure dark sides army to a random planet and wipe out the army. Have wonder women take off her bracelets of submissions, no Batman or Aquaman to worry about protecting and go full berserker. Start with a scene were they’re bonding flying together, talking about their parents and sense of sesperation from humanity
Surprisingly long ep. Before I actually finish the ep, I'll say that this is a weird time to do a Star Trek theme. Is there anything Trek-y going on these days for the brand synergy?
People always said that "new trek" didn't have the FELL of TOS and TNG. And while I agreed, no one could tell me what was missing. What was that THING that just wasn't there. What did they have to do to make it Star Trek again? Then I saw Uhura singing to a space egg and it hit me ... OH, they just needed to make it stupid. Unmitigatedly, unapologetically STUPID. That's what was missing. That's what no one would risk doing until Strange New Worlds. Star Trek is silly, stupid, and dumb. And I love it.
James you deserve the break, not so sure about Maso's twin seeing as he is so fresh to the pod. Anyway good for you guys!!
Everyone on the team enjoy your well earned break! Thanks for keeping us entertained every week. See you next month
I'm so glad they read out my letter! ^w^
I have never been more disappointed than when they talked about Terry Farrell leaving Deep Space 9 and there was zero Becker chat
1:11:25 lmao at Mason subtlety getting excited about Ben doing his impressions
I posted this while I was listening, im glad the impressions didnt end there
Shout-out to Collings who somehow makes the ramblings of two lunatics vaguely coherent.
whoa thanks mate!!
Not sure if this comment counts as a H8 with a 8 in it? Sounds like a backhanded slap.
No, it's just a thanks to Collings for helping make the show. Don't read too much into it.
@@rawcollings Thanks for all you do man, brought me a lot of happiness over the past year
He’s the glue
YOU IMPORTED SOMEONE WHO KNOWS MY THING!!! Love you guys!
I named my son Julian, partly inspired by Dr Bashir from DS9. I hated him the first season or two but by the end he was fantastic. Almost all the characters were.
DS9 had the greatest improvement from start to finish of any Star Trek series
"Dr Bashir, I Presume?" has lived on my soul since childhood. The DS9 writers made legends out of some kind of "meh" premises, properly amazing.
Oh. On reading that I thought you meant you hated your son for his first few seasons of life, but he got better. Hm. Perhaps that's most parents experience...
That helicopter joke was fantastic, keep up the great work.
Actually, don’t do that, enjoy your break.
"What if it's regional ghost buster adventures?"
Congratulations, you've written a Scooby Doo movie
2:23:15 my friends and I split an ounce of shrooms to go watch Event Horizon. We also didn't know what it was.
Oh my goodness, finally, some good old fashioned Ben Russel on the podcast. Always love it when you have guests. Helps keep things fresh after all this time.
Been waiting for that ben russell guest episode ever since the show got cancelled because of covid and it was great. Loved your chemistry, i hope you bring him back at some point, cheers
Majel Barret didn't just come back as the computer in TNG, she came back as Nurse Chapel AND the computer in TOS, and then of course Troi's mother in TNG.
As a "50 year old man" (a bit above actually) I totally agree with James that Ghost Busters... not so great, regardless of iteration.
The Orville is the spiritual successor to Star Trek. Give it a watch and let it play out.
Agreed. Especially the last season, that was amazing ^^
My family think I'm crazy now cus I said Westworld out loud and James didn't.....I got weird looks and asked what I'm doing? Also think for stupid fun you should do a big video on the Bionicle Trilogy, they're too short for 3 videos over 3 weeks but who knows
I love how these boys still show up with a new hot pod on Americas birthday. It’s like a reward
How it is that they are STILL not giving Dave Filoni a star wars movie is beyond me
Cowboy Hatman needs to learn how to write and direct live-action better before that happens, every episode of Mando that he's been at the helm of has been atrocious.
To be fair he already made one and it was the worst one
@@jimjam7928 nice H8 mail. You think the pilot of the Mandalorian, and the episode where Fennic Shand is shot and left for dead, AND the episode that Ahsoka Tano's live action character is introduced are atrocious??
@@samgarner36 yes
Because he'd force his oc into it.
Namor has his little underwear, the wings on his feet, and his elf ears. What else can we ask for?
Maybe Maso’s twin brother with the same name can step in during the break and maintain the content flow?
Really great guest! He fits in with James and Maso’s identical twin brother really well!
Strange New Worlds is incredible Anson Mount continues to impress after hell on wheels and the inhumans show
The Weekly Planet intro is a great song to whistle to
James said he wished Ferris was killed in that parade, and yesterday there was a mass shooting at the 4th of July Parade in the town where the movie takes place :/
Ben Russell’s voice is delightful. Reminds me of the Glorious Ms Edward Izzard! More please.
I feel like people wouldn’t care that much if Star Wars just did a movie in an era that’s so far detached from the shit we know that there’s literally not even mentions of anything we would recognize. I don’t really see why they couldn’t and haven’t already just done that, especially when it comes to the old republic stuff. Those comics and video games and pretty much anything that takes place during that era is insane, because the old republic just had everything.
The sith have a fully realized empire, the republic have their democracy spread out all over the core worlds, the mandalorians are just out there and will start a war with the republic simply for the sake of honor and because they can. There’s just so much shit in that era that’s literally UNTOUCHED by the small and big screen I don’t understand why this isn’t just a no brainer for them.
At this point people are so sick of Star Wars it’s probably to late to be able to take a risk like that, but this is something that Disney could easily be able to do if they just found someone to helm this franchise. Actually helm it though, not that I’m here hating Kathleen Kennedy but letting a bunch of Star Wars directors just do whatever they want and hoping the trilogy comes together in the end is probably not a great idea typically speaking. And hindsight has definitely shown this to be true.
You guys enjoy your break. I’ll just have to find a new podcast to listen to as I clean my apartment
Why does Bo Burnham have an accent in this?
Have a great August break, The Weekly Planet team, you deserve it!
🥺 cheers so much mate!
What's really funny about the whole Iron Man discussion is that they _do_ have a running bit throughout the movies that Tony "doesn't like to be handed things", which would have worked perfectly with the idea that Tony was using a hologram of himself to hide the fact that he's in the suit. Having said that, I prefer the way they use it with Loki and Thor, which probably wouldn't have happened if they were using the same gimmick with Iron Man.
Also, gotta admit What We Reading without Westworld felt weird, but looking forward to the shiny new age of Letters Oh Letters We Love You Some Westworld.
23:45 So he's finally doing Time Bandits? Fuck yes. About goddamn time.
I went to see "Meet the Feebles" at the movies with some friends when we were WAY to young (like 10 or something).
It was awesome. We loved it.
But we watched a half packed cinema walk out group after group over the course of the first 40 minutes until we were literally the only ones left.
Which just made it even better.
Good for you! Take a breather, cuz you guys are killing it! Besides, we'll all still be here in a month.
Jeffrey Hunter, who played Pike in the 60s (and Jesus!) was dead by 1969 after getting caught in an explosion on a movie shoot.
The Westworld joke has become an intriguing Pavlov's Dog experiment. It's been happening for so long that I believe both we and James have been conditioned to need it.
Originally Mr Sunday Movies was called Blue Harvest.
I think the Weeknd's wordplay was with a Bentley Wraith / Wraith of Kahn. Actually kind of a fun line for the small venn diagram of pop-hiphop fans and TOS fans lol. Also enjoy your well deserved break fellas and ladies. Maybe by the time youre back we will have forgiven you for that whole purple beam in Moon Knight disaster....but I doubt it.
We all know we're only watching Discovery for the Red Letter Media reviews.
Maso and Ben going at James at 1:04:55 is peak comedy
1:01:58 - Barret also played Diana Trois's mother, she's absolutely wonderful.
Today I celebrate my independence from…..boredom! With an awesome podcast!
I stayed right to the end cuz y’all are gods
2:30:00 ish. The vibe for TVA goes all the way back to Terry Gilliam's Brazil. Umbrella Academy? C'mon.
Have a good rest thanks for the great content
Miss hearing WEST WORLD .. My husband always wonders why i yell WEST WORLD .
To your letters, I never have left a theater but I fell asleep about 40 minutes in to Pearl Harbor and a theater employee woke me up during the credits.
The attack helicopter joke has got to be my favorite joke on this podcast. The way it just kept going was 👌
Oh good, this whole "Listening to a podcast once a week" thing was exhausting. The break will be much appreciated.
Enjoy the break. Not the worst thing for me, either, because now I can finally catch up on some of the movie commentaries that I never have time to get to.
I vividly remember being 16 years old, going to watch Justice League in theaters and walking out after the Parademon scene, I simply could not waste my time watching that. I walked into a theater playing Thor Ragnorok and rewatched the movie instead.
Did you know, the original title for Star Trek was Blue Harvest? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Great podcast and a great guest! 5 out of 5 stars, this is in app!
"Don't put the dogs down"
"No I HAVE to"
Awesome ep.
You're confusing Brannon Braga with Rick Berman as far as the DS9 and Terry Farrell trouble. Berman was the head of Trek from TNG to Enterprise. Often this is called "The Berman " era. A number of cast members have complained about him over the years, including Denise Crosby, Ferrell and Will Wheaton.
Braga was bit of a dick too, but mainly towards other writers, I think. Berman liked him tho, and would probably have had him write everything in order to cut costs.
^^^^^ there's the phrase amd group 'Fuck you, Rick Berman' for a reason.
I cannot get past Ben's half Australian half American accent
I came back from some kind of a school break and my boss who never spoke to me actually asked me if I did anything fun, and I said I saw Ghostbusters 2016 and enjoyed it way more than I’d ever liked Bill Murray’s bad attitude in the original one, and I think he tried to be polite but he basically just grunted ‘okay’ at me, and I feel like I must be condensing events together in my mind, but my memory is that he was literally receiving a delivery at that moment and it was a vintage Ghost Busters movie poster in a fancy frame for his office wall.
He didn’t even have any other fancy frames on his office wall. That was his one pick.
@@conormurphy4328 No comment lol
The mention of the Series 'Almost Human' at 1:43:27 by James caught me off guard. Didn't think anyone else saw that show.
Ben Russell! Crab lab represent!
Great episode! I would love Caravan of Garbage to tackle to complete TNG movies. "First Contact" is a fantastic S.T. film, and the next two are a bit of a mixed bag. However, "Nemesis" has definitely has a great Jerry Goldsmith score and it has some good action scenes and interesting concepts. With S.T. Picard wrapping up with Season 3, I think it would be a fun re-watch and critique.
I love all of them, Nemesis not so much...but I'm still a defender of it.
First Contact is great, my non-Trekkie wife watched it and was into it the whole time without knowing any character other than "robot guy" "that klingon dude you quote" and "Professor X".
I feel like I’m missing the reference to the ghostbuster slimmer video.
Anyways how about a ghostbuster sequel where the current gang, whomever they may consist of, dies at some point early on and then part of the narrative is about them being ghosts, exploring the ghost realm which is like this Beetlejuice version of New York and have to find someway to come back by the end… and uhhh maybe if you need a more child friendly transition away from death and resurrection you could just say the current antagonist possessed a few of them and when their bodies are possessed they become disembodied spirits.
I’m not saying it would be good, just that it would be different.
enjoy your break all of you!🎉 becausr once you get back it's back to slaving at the content mines for you🎉🎉🎉
So, I really want to get into Star Trek, do I need to watch the original series before the movies?
It would help to get the character dynamics, but on the whole they're pretty self contained so it's not required viewing I think. You could watch one or two of the really good ones (try Balance of Terror and Space Seed for example) and then jump right into the movies. Or just watch the movies and if you enjoy them you can check back to get some more Kirk, Spock and Bones.
@@GeeVanderplas Cool, thanks
You can totally start at TNG.
I love Star Trek: Strange New Worlds! Very Trek, great characters, action, & storytelling. :)
I feel the same about SNW as they do about Enterprise.
It's just retelling stories that have already been told.
I feel the same about Voyager, vis-a-vis The Next Generation.
Star Trek discovery is amazing. The best worst show I can’t stop watching, very nice 👌🏾
+ 100 points for "American Rude Finger"!!!
Booksmart and moonrise kingdom is a great coming of age movie!
Happy 4th of July 🇺🇸💪🏼
Enjoy your break!
Only time I left a movie was jurassic park 3 was too scary for a 7 year old me
And I think enter the void could get you to stop watching because of visual gore
Love this!
I heard the first minute and had to check if this was an old video.😂
Strange New World is an incredible show AND incredible Star Trek show.
Fun fact, the name for the series was supposed to be Blue Harvest ! How about that ?
Wow I’m truly disgusted, The Hollywood Reporter sourced the Weekly Planet in its article about Daredevil and Kingpin but failed to mention “Hot Scoop, or Shot of Poop”.
In the Chronicles of Riddick, who are the chronicles about? Is he chronicling his own adventures, or is someone else chronicling his adventures for him?
adding any schumer to only murders in the building was such a bad idea
You forget at times, it's the middle of winter in Australia right now, so they are celebrating the holidays. Enjoy the break!
You should watch Time Bandits. Or any Gilliam movie if you like his style.
I just wanna say, in the weeknd song, he knows its wrath, he just says wraith because it's the name of the car and kind of sounds like wrath I know this podcast episode is like 3 years old
I respect the fact that you guys don't care about comments 😁🍻...
That said, the actor that played Pike declined to participate in the series once it got picked up, which is why Kirk was captain.
Mason guessing what's happening in Our Flag Means Death *is just hilarious.*
I'm just glad they finally talked about it!
I'm going to spend the rest of this month finding out where Mason lives and then I am going to spend every night of August tapping on his window and asking him questions about Captain Butler..
Tap, tap, tap "Hey Mason, Have you ever seen Captain Butler?"
Tappyy-tap-tap tap "It's got Craig Charles in it, Mason. Have you seen it, Mason?"
Rat-ta-tat-tat "Hey Mason, its got Sanjeev Bahskaar, did you know that Mason?"
[sound of wet fish being thrown at a window] "Did you know that the guy that plays Kryten has some very dodgy ideas and he stars as Nelson in Captain Butler? DID YOU KNOW THAT MASON?!"
Star Trek Enterprise is actually great. I've actually watched it more than any other Trek series over the last 5 years or so. Severely underrated.
Seasons 3 and 4 are pretty good, the first two seasons lack all kind of momentum. Because it is widescreen and shot in HD it looks quite a lot better than Voyager and Deep Space Nine, that makes it easier to watch than those two at least.
Last week, for the first time ever I stopped watching a movie before the end. Men. I just didn't like the supporting characters and wasn't sure where it was going. I watched a review and... damn, everything was for a reason, I should have kept watching. The ending, whoa.
James, I like telling people I love sitting too. Especially with some good lumbar support.
I think Star Trek Enterprise would have done better if was offered in syndication like TNG,DS9, & Voyager was.
Klingon Academy is jank, but Christopher Plummer is a delight in it.
The Modern era of Trek is bizarre....
The show I totally expected to be "Family Guy in Space", The Orville, is actually really good comedy Star Trek. And the show that should be Star Trek, Lower Decks, is basically "Family Guy in Space".
Ugh
Seriously just do a joint Superman and Wonder Women movie where they take supermans ship, lure dark sides army to a random planet and wipe out the army. Have wonder women take off her bracelets of submissions, no Batman or Aquaman to worry about protecting and go full berserker. Start with a scene were they’re bonding flying together, talking about their parents and sense of sesperation from humanity
How will I know he is gonna watch Westworld???? My world of the past 3 years has been rocked.
Yes. Star Trek talk. They should Caravan of Garbage every single Star Trek movie
Strange New Worlds is an undeniable masterpiece imo.
Surprisingly long ep. Before I actually finish the ep, I'll say that this is a weird time to do a Star Trek theme. Is there anything Trek-y going on these days for the brand synergy?
Strange New Worlds is ending its first season 🤷♂️… I don’t think the franchise will be releasing anything until next spring
i'm so behind on this podcast lol playing catch up
Also, slight correction.....the original Captain Pike played by Jeffery Hunter was recast due to Mr. Hunter's alcoholism :/
You guys like the prequels a lot more than me, but dislike Ghostbusters 2 a lot more than me.... 😫
Guys we dont need to harang anyone. They actually sourced them and named the segment
I hope they reinvent Bond as a dirtbike, like Heat Vision and Jack.
People always said that "new trek" didn't have the FELL of TOS and TNG. And while I agreed, no one could tell me what was missing. What was that THING that just wasn't there. What did they have to do to make it Star Trek again?
Then I saw Uhura singing to a space egg and it hit me ... OH, they just needed to make it stupid. Unmitigatedly, unapologetically STUPID. That's what was missing. That's what no one would risk doing until Strange New Worlds. Star Trek is silly, stupid, and dumb.
And I love it.