Love the video. I scoop my soap and put it in my lather bowl, then had just a little bit of hot water to the bowl. Next I shower and by the time I am finished with the shower, the soap has bloomed and ready for building a lather quickly because the hot water softened the soap. That is my morning routine YMMV your shave your rules. Have a wonderful week Tobin. 👍
Great job, Tobin! That was an awesome study. I use a little of my bloom water in my shave bowl and briefly lather my brush, then go to the bowl to develop my lather. Also BTW the Tinfoil Hat...I thought you were going for the REX profile look😅
I'm guessing you are in your late 40s😱, Tobin. Why are you talking about when you're gone? Hopefully, you have several decades here on this side of the grass to continue to entertain us😁 Great experiment results, Tobin. I've only tub loaded a few times with mixed results. I mostly scoop and bowl lather. I enjoy the process of building the rich, creamy lather. After painting it on my face, I rypically face lather it to work it into my beard. It's amazing how little soap is needed to build a heaping amount of lather in the bowl. Have a great week ahead.
I wasn’t expecting those results. But I gotta say, you conducted that experiment in a very thoughtful and thorough manner. That’s some serious dedication; thanks for conducting that experiment and sharing the process and the results with us. One of the many reasons I appreciate the content(s) you share. Damn fine review! I started out blooming and loading from the bowl, but when I got my first HC&C soap (Alone) I couldn’t do it….. that was the start of my guitar pick scrapping method.
Thanks for sharing this experiment. I think I’ll try tub loading and blooming some soaps that I’m definitely keeping. Any ones that I may not keep I’ll scoop.
These days I'm mainly tub loading since it is slightly more convenient than bowl loading. Interestingly enough, my best shaves have lately been right off the tub. Tons of lather and very easy to whip into a creamy yogurt like consistency.
I used to tub load but now I scoop and smear the small amount of soap into the bottom of a stainless steel water bowl. I use about an Almond size amount. I use a damp brush to make a paste-like you would with tub loading, and then you can face lather. I find an Almond-size scoop gives me enough soap for 3 shaves.
After looking at your video on why you scoop, and especially looking at Matthew's video on the science behind scooping, I do so because of volume distribution (among other things). With scooping, you can easily control the portions of soap that you use versus tub loading where any kind of amount of soap gets onto your brush to use (based on how long you load it for). And what that does is reduce the amount of soap that you have more easily over time. Like say a 4 OZ container of soap reportedly lasts you for about 60 shaves. Well, with scooping, that number can be easily attainable if you're only scooping a certain amount. But if you are tub loading, you can't measure the amount of soap going on your brush, so that number might most likely be less than 60 before the ring of death appears.
Glad to see the results. The anticipation was killing me. I scoop and bloom a bit in the bowl before lathering. Best of both worlds? Keep busting myths!
I recently destroyed a soap. I was gifted Barberwood from HAGS for my birthday from mom lol…. I decided around that same time that I would tub load my brushes instead of scooping. I only added a moist shaving brush to the tub. Long story short I air dried it for 3 days straight and it never came back from the muddy texture. I told a friend and he asked could he have it. I gave it away. He is enjoying it. I haven’t asked him how it’s lasting. I would imagine it’s not the best. I will NOT go back to tub loading. Scoop for the win! 😂 great job Tobin, awesome video
Very well put. I have always heard both points of view (scoop vs tub load) and always stayed with the scoop method because that is how I liked to build a lather. Glad to know that there is not a lot of difference.
BOOOOOM! Great vid brother, the (little big) things we have to do to make a point, eh? Lol - Note: we don’t add fragrance while the soap is 200 degrees, but more like around 125-130…otherwise you risk frying the delicate essential oils and other frags or scent chemicals. For similar reasons I always warn folks about using a microwave on a puck, which can exceed 200 degrees in 30 seconds! I bloom to release the full scent I was going for in the lab, that’s why I do it. The frags in the soap need at least 5 minutes to start making it into the air. With soap as a medium, it takes a different shape than what the blast splash brings. There is also the “less” distracting sensations one gets with an alcohol based matrix. It’s just a different beast and maybe it’s just me that notices and enjoys this part? Although had I never, i’m not sure what else folks would argue over in this hobby!Lol -Personally, I’m not gonna trade or sell it after. ( i also put bumperstickers on my Jeep! I know, i’m a psycho!)- I also find, and this is key, I use far less soap and it lasts longer than using a scoop. 4 swirls and i’m good for 4-5 passes! In my will, i have left instructions to pile it all up, douse it all with Al Fin and then…light it in fire. 😅 Thanks for putting in the time Tobes and keep it up!!! You end this series a good place; YMMV. Use whatever technique you like and cleared up years and years of misconceptions and misinfo! Bravo! Now, i’m off to construct my own tinfoil pith! 😜 Shave On!
It depends on the soap, I'd think. Haslinger can soak water all day and simply change consistency, whereas MWF developed some weird transparent gelatinous sludge that I had to peel off and throw away. Most soaps, I'd wager, won't be hurt by blooming.
Thanks for report of your findings. Personally I will only scoop, except for some triple mill soaps (most I slice a piece off). I agree if planning to move soaps on to other shavers then soap should only be scooped, otherwise do whatever sails your boat (or lather), I've received second hand soaps that have been tub loaded that look disgusting with hairs and old soap foam mixed together. So I now only accept scooped soaps second hand. Take care Tobin👌🤠👌
Great study and thanks for sharing with us. Its interesting in the results. I started off scooping but now i more scrape across the top. I like scraping/scooping as i try to use the same amount of soap when trying new brands or bases so its almost the same process/quantity of water needed esch time knowing some do take more or less water but usually not much difference. Have a great week
Tobin, what I would like to see is an experiment using 2 identical soaps with identical weights. One tub loaded, one scooped to see which tub lasts longer.
When I think of "blooming" I think of a bar soap that has been kept wet for too long. When that happens, the soap starts to break down, and you end up using it far too quickly.
That's exactly why I don't leave my bath bars in the shower. Plus my wife showers that are so hot you swear to God that it was lava that was falling down from the spout😅
Great! Some interesting results and not quite what I would think. My thought on the difference in projection off the tub between the scooped and tub loaded is the thin oxidized layer that forms on the surface. When tub loading that layer is always getting taken off each time you use it and on the scooped, it stays intact because you only remove a little part. If more soaps were harder, you'd have a better idea of what I designed my "scoop" for. It was designed to be a scraper and scrap a thin layer of soap from the whole top of the soap. I think most of the artisans right now are in that croap zone and are quite soft. That's my thought on the difference and I could be totally wrong. Have a good one bro!
I used to bloom and tub load, when I was new I thought blooming was necessary, now I’m a scooper and much prefer it. The only main drawback i can see about tub loading though is the soap gets used up a lot faster.
I have a different method I scoop spread the soap in the bowl and cover that soap with a very thing layer of water and let it sit there blooming only that scooped portion. I use a synthetic brush so I go into that with a 100% dry brush and start the lathering process and add water as needed until I get the lather to where I want it.
I always bloomed my MWF, but that was just because it's such a hard soap. Since watching your videos and using artisan soaps (mainly PAA), I scoop those. I tried tub loading a couple times, but I was not as happy with the results. So, I'll give blooming, then tub loading a try. I'm willing to bet I'll still have good results. CK6 is just good stuff!
I still Bloom Mitchell's in any hard soap. But what the soft stuff like CK 6 I aim to scoop. Ck6 can take anything you throw at it LOL have a good one Jeff
Great information Tobin! I didn’t know this was a thing I always did both depending on how I felt. Recently I mostly scoop just because I’ve been bowl lathering more. Cheers and have a great upcoming week
Glycerine based soaps don't have the problem with scooping. If you want a smooth surface just put these in the microwave for 30 seconds. They melt and be hard again in an hour with a totally flat and even surface. Tested with several Bundubeard soaps. You can do this only with glycerine based soaps, all other will not work!
I'm still fairly new to wet shaving; I use metal kitchen 1/4 teaspoon of soap in a captain choice bowl, 10cc water and a dry synthetic brush, I easily get good lather quickly and my tubs stay dry
For me, I usually scoop and if it’s a hard soap, I will bloom in the bowl I scooped it into for a few minutes. It seems to soften it a bit and I tend to get a better lather.
I always worried about having some bad bacteria getting stuck in that moist area in between the soap and the container. Live and learn! Nice study Tobin!
TOTALY AGREED, i also am shaving for the joy , greetings from mexico
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I was given a few soaps that had been tub loaded. They hadn't been cleaned and even contained stubble. Imagine the stomach churning feeling!
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Yeah that story that you just shared reminds me of that tub that I did a video of a while back
@petehendrix5142 Thank you for the tip. I did scrape, but will go the whole hog in the future .🙏
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Great SCOOP Tobin!!! 👍
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I was the same, I scooped as was paranoid about the soap, now I tub load every soap
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Good video bro! Sharing this to my blog.
Awesome thank you!
Wow seriously well done Tobin
Thanks!
Love the video. I scoop my soap and put it in my lather bowl, then had just a little bit of hot water to the bowl. Next I shower and by the time I am finished with the shower, the soap has bloomed and ready for building a lather quickly because the hot water softened the soap. That is my morning routine YMMV your shave your rules. Have a wonderful week Tobin. 👍
Thanks William I kind of sometimes do the same thing with water how about it sit for a few minutes and then do my shave
Blooming is WAY OVERAYED! Cheers
I'm there with ya, it's great for triple Milled but no so much with croaps🙏
@@Tobins_throwbacks agreed
Great job, Tobin! That was an awesome study. I use a little of my bloom water in my shave bowl and briefly lather my brush, then go to the bowl to develop my lather. Also BTW the Tinfoil Hat...I thought you were going for the REX profile look😅
😅😅😅😅thanks Sam!
😅 you crack me up!😅 I enjoy the variety of your channel! From one video to the next, we never know what to expect 👍👍
😁 thanks man!
I'm guessing you are in your late 40s😱, Tobin. Why are you talking about when you're gone? Hopefully, you have several decades here on this side of the grass to continue to entertain us😁
Great experiment results, Tobin. I've only tub loaded a few times with mixed results. I mostly scoop and bowl lather. I enjoy the process of building the rich, creamy lather. After painting it on my face, I rypically face lather it to work it into my beard. It's amazing how little soap is needed to build a heaping amount of lather in the bowl.
Have a great week ahead.
Yes sir that would be a accurate guess😊 a man needs a plan though
And thank you!🙏
Brilliant and hilarious!
Thanks 😊
I wasn’t expecting those results. But I gotta say, you conducted that experiment in a very thoughtful and thorough manner. That’s some serious dedication; thanks for conducting that experiment and sharing the process and the results with us. One of the many reasons I appreciate the content(s) you share. Damn fine review!
I started out blooming and loading from the bowl, but when I got my first HC&C soap (Alone) I couldn’t do it….. that was the start of my guitar pick scrapping method.
Thanks Lee!
Thanks for sharing this experiment. I think I’ll try tub loading and blooming some soaps that I’m definitely keeping. Any ones that I may not keep I’ll scoop.
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These days I'm mainly tub loading since it is slightly more convenient than bowl loading. Interestingly enough, my best shaves have lately been right off the tub. Tons of lather and very easy to whip into a creamy yogurt like consistency.
I used to tub load but now I scoop and smear the small amount of soap into the bottom of a stainless steel water bowl. I use about an Almond size amount. I use a damp brush to make a paste-like you would with tub loading, and then you can face lather. I find an Almond-size scoop gives me enough soap for 3 shaves.
It takes a surprisingly small amount 🙏
Have a good one!
After looking at your video on why you scoop, and especially looking at Matthew's video on the science behind scooping, I do so because of volume distribution (among other things). With scooping, you can easily control the portions of soap that you use versus tub loading where any kind of amount of soap gets onto your brush to use (based on how long you load it for). And what that does is reduce the amount of soap that you have more easily over time. Like say a 4 OZ container of soap reportedly lasts you for about 60 shaves. Well, with scooping, that number can be easily attainable if you're only scooping a certain amount. But if you are tub loading, you can't measure the amount of soap going on your brush, so that number might most likely be less than 60 before the ring of death appears.
100% Thsnks Dev!
Glad to see the results. The anticipation was killing me. I scoop and bloom a bit in the bowl before lathering. Best of both worlds? Keep busting myths!
😅😊 thanks brother!
I recently destroyed a soap. I was gifted Barberwood from HAGS for my birthday from mom lol….
I decided around that same time that I would tub load my brushes instead of scooping. I only added a moist shaving brush to the tub. Long story short I air dried it for 3 days straight and it never came back from the muddy texture. I told a friend and he asked could he have it. I gave it away. He is enjoying it. I haven’t asked him how it’s lasting. I would imagine it’s not the best. I will NOT go back to tub loading. Scoop for the win! 😂 great job Tobin, awesome video
😮 good thing it was only Hags😅
Nice hat changing transition!
Thanks!
Very well put. I have always heard both points of view (scoop vs tub load) and always stayed with the scoop method because that is how I liked to build a lather. Glad to know that there is not a lot of difference.
Yeah just comes down to preference is what I learned 🙏
Hey, can you dm me. I want to send you stickers for joining the membership 🙏
Tobin, I sent you an email yesterday based on your request.
@Wittar7090 thanks! I'll find it🙏👍👍
BOOOOOM! Great vid brother, the (little big) things we have to do to make a point, eh? Lol - Note: we don’t add fragrance while the soap is 200 degrees, but more like around 125-130…otherwise you risk frying the delicate essential oils and other frags or scent chemicals. For similar reasons I always warn folks about using a microwave on a puck, which can exceed 200 degrees in 30 seconds! I bloom to release the full scent I was going for in the lab, that’s why I do it. The frags in the soap need at least 5 minutes to start making it into the air. With soap as a medium, it takes a different shape than what the blast splash brings. There is also the “less” distracting sensations one gets with an alcohol based matrix. It’s just a different beast and maybe it’s just me that notices and enjoys this part? Although had I never, i’m not sure what else folks would argue over in this hobby!Lol -Personally, I’m not gonna trade or sell it after. ( i also put bumperstickers on my Jeep! I know, i’m a psycho!)- I also find, and this is key, I use far less soap and it lasts longer than using a scoop. 4 swirls and i’m good for 4-5 passes! In my will, i have left instructions to pile it all up, douse it all with Al Fin and then…light it in fire. 😅 Thanks for putting in the time Tobes and keep it up!!! You end this series a good place; YMMV. Use whatever technique you like and cleared up years and years of misconceptions and misinfo! Bravo! Now, i’m off to construct my own tinfoil pith! 😜 Shave On!
G'day from Australia. Thank you for another great clip Tobin. Please keep doin' what you're doin'!
Thanks, will do! 🙏
It depends on the soap, I'd think. Haslinger can soak water all day and simply change consistency, whereas MWF developed some weird transparent gelatinous sludge that I had to peel off and throw away. Most soaps, I'd wager, won't be hurt by blooming.
Yeah agreed. I'm just talking about croap. Lime Harvest Moon
Thanks for report of your findings. Personally I will only scoop, except for some triple mill soaps (most I slice a piece off). I agree if planning to move soaps on to other shavers then soap should only be scooped, otherwise do whatever sails your boat (or lather), I've received second hand soaps that have been tub loaded that look disgusting with hairs and old soap foam mixed together. So I now only accept scooped soaps second hand. Take care Tobin👌🤠👌
100% Lawrie, I'm right there with you
Great study and thanks for sharing with us. Its interesting in the results. I started off scooping but now i more scrape across the top. I like scraping/scooping as i try to use the same amount of soap when trying new brands or bases so its almost the same process/quantity of water needed esch time knowing some do take more or less water but usually not much difference. Have a great week
Thanks Mike!
Tobin, what I would like to see is an experiment using 2 identical soaps with identical weights. One tub loaded, one scooped to see which tub lasts longer.
When I think of "blooming" I think of a bar soap that has been kept wet for too long. When that happens, the soap starts to break down, and you end up using it far too quickly.
That's exactly why I don't leave my bath bars in the shower. Plus my wife showers that are so hot you swear to God that it was lava that was falling down from the spout😅
@Tobins_throwbacks 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Like me in the winter. I have two settings; cold for 9 months, and "stinking hot" for three months.
Great! Some interesting results and not quite what I would think. My thought on the difference in projection off the tub between the scooped and tub loaded is the thin oxidized layer that forms on the surface. When tub loading that layer is always getting taken off each time you use it and on the scooped, it stays intact because you only remove a little part. If more soaps were harder, you'd have a better idea of what I designed my "scoop" for. It was designed to be a scraper and scrap a thin layer of soap from the whole top of the soap. I think most of the artisans right now are in that croap zone and are quite soft. That's my thought on the difference and I could be totally wrong. Have a good one bro!
Absolutely! 100% I don't see the market moving away from croaps anytime soon either.
Have a good one Ian!
that seems more like a morion cabasset helmet :D
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I used to bloom and tub load, when I was new I thought blooming was necessary, now I’m a scooper and much prefer it. The only main drawback i can see about tub loading though is the soap gets used up a lot faster.
How much do you usually scoop Robert?
@@Tobins_throwbacks Sorry for the late reply, I only scoop now I love watching the lather build in the bowl
Well done, thanks Tobin!
Thanks!
I agree totally, I scoop because I enjoy building the lather in the bowl
Thanks for the shoutout! I’m a little surprised with the results of soaking for 28 days.
Me too!
I have a different method I scoop spread the soap in the bowl and cover that soap with a very thing layer of water and let it sit there blooming only that scooped portion. I use a synthetic brush so I go into that with a 100% dry brush and start the lathering process and add water as needed until I get the lather to where I want it.
I sometimes do something similar. It really seems to help the soap lather right up.
Have a good one!
I always bloomed my MWF, but that was just because it's such a hard soap. Since watching your videos and using artisan soaps (mainly PAA), I scoop those. I tried tub loading a couple times, but I was not as happy with the results. So, I'll give blooming, then tub loading a try. I'm willing to bet I'll still have good results. CK6 is just good stuff!
I still Bloom Mitchell's in any hard soap. But what the soft stuff like CK 6 I aim to scoop.
Ck6 can take anything you throw at it LOL have a good one Jeff
Great information Tobin! I didn’t know this was a thing I always did both depending on how I felt. Recently I mostly scoop just because I’ve been bowl lathering more. Cheers and have a great upcoming week
Thanks Sean!
😅 the thumbnail is 🔥🙏
Thanks 😅😊
Glycerine based soaps don't have the problem with scooping. If you want a smooth surface just put these in the microwave for 30 seconds. They melt and be hard again in an hour with a totally flat and even surface. Tested with several Bundubeard soaps. You can do this only with glycerine based soaps, all other will not work!
I used to use glycerin soaps as a pre-shave back before companies were making pre-shave soap.
I'm still fairly new to wet shaving; I use metal kitchen 1/4 teaspoon of soap in a captain choice bowl, 10cc water and a dry synthetic brush, I easily get good lather quickly and my tubs stay dry
@@ThomasWoodyard-u7l that's a great technique. When I measure that's what I use 🙏 have a good one!
Robin hood, meets Cowboy, meets construction worker😂😂😂
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I’m a scooper too and not ashamed😅. Good experiment
😊 thanks!!
For me, I usually scoop and if it’s a hard soap, I will bloom in the bowl I scooped it into for a few minutes. It seems to soften it a bit and I tend to get a better lather.
I like the all-seeing eye at the end! Illuminati will be coming for you😉😉🤭🤭🤭
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I tend to bloom. When I scoop I have small pieces of undissolved soap. I leave the soap out for at least a day to dry out before closing the tub.
Great video! Entertaining and informative 👍
Tobin, do you let the tub of soap dry out a bit after tub loading? And if so how long?
I do, for a minimum of 8 to 10 hours lid off. It's it's soaking wet let it sit upside down for a couple hours first
But, the water won't hurt it, even if you don't let it dry. That's what i learned. You don't have to let it dry
Just pick a soap and use it until it’s gone and don’t worry if it matches the splash, I wonder if anyone has suggested this topic 😒
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Aluminum foil fedora 😂😂😂
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Nice video Tobin 💯⚡️👍😎❤️🔥💈🙏🔥🤩⭐️💙🇺🇸✋🏼🪒
@@djchubbsShaving hey man! Thanks! Hope you're doing well!
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Welcome be to the much anticipated tin foil hat!
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Snort 😅😅😅🐷🐽🐖
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I always worried about having some bad bacteria getting stuck in that moist area in between the soap and the container. Live and learn! Nice study Tobin!
Same, I've worried about things growing in it too 🙏
Nice hat changing transition!
Thank you sir
@@Tobins_throwbacks both actual and metaphorical.