You guys are great! i guess what you are stating on this is that: first turn of all audyssey or in my case YAPAO then use the minidsp + MSO to flat then run YAPAO.
First run your sub calibration via minidsp as shown by Home theater guru ep.7, then do your Audeyssey run etc for distance (delay) and spl. Set all speakers to small and turn OFF Audeyssey,ypao etc again. Enjoy! (Before all this: treat your room. Home theater guru ep. 21-24)
This all makes sense except for turning off Audyssey after taking distance and SPL measurements and setting speakers to small. The viewer didn't specify whether they wanted to disable Audyssey completely or not. Perhaps, they want Audyssey on for the rest of their speakers.
Perhaps they do, but I think its good to challenge things that people "just do". In my theatre neither ypao nor Audeyssey do anything that benefits the sound. It is for me most obvious in dialogue. It sounds "processed" or not as natural with room eq activated. You do you, but it's free for the OP to try on/off. For him, the big difference is minidsp for the bass. Audeyssey is just a small cherry on top that might or might not help out.
@@SweCrue I'm with you. I'm all for experimenting. I think Audyssey with MultEQ-X can improve the sound of a system significantly. When used properly, and many people don't use it properly, it acts as a filter bank essentially turning your AVR into a giant MiniDSP with nearly unlimited slots for PEQ's. You can also turn off midrange compensation, which I recommend doing.
Common on guys, this is simple one. Run mini dip 2X4 and get subs dialed in. Then run ausyssey and use the app which gives you the option to set the minimum correction frequency to 80Hz. Then Audsyssey won't apply any corrections to anything below 80Hz which is where the Mini DSP will take care of that.
Is this not what I said in the video, to calibrate using the MiniDSP first and Audyssey after? The only thing I would say about your method is that an 80hz curtain might not be enough. If you consider that using the Editor app, you can't disable correction for an entire channel like you can with MultEQ-X (by ignoring the measurement for a single channel.) That means that Audyssey will apply whatever correction it thinks it needs. In your case it will make unwanted corrections above 80hz. For the LFE channel, 120hz would be the minimum I would recommend for the curtain, but an octave higher would be even better to account for the 24dB/Octave crossover slope. In other words, you want Audyssey to stop correcting much higher in range so that it remains untouched at the crossover region at 120hz or 80hz, which is what you want since the subs have already been corrected prior. But if the person wants to apply additional EQ to the summed bass response, then they should not apply any curtain.
Agree fully with Joe. Personally I run a 120Hz XO. My thinking is that since the LFE channel can contain up to 120hz freq. I want ALL that to be correctly handled by the minidsp. This XO also gave me a smooth transition to the LCRs. Also takes even more load of the recievers amps than a XO at 80. (No experience at all with new Audeyssey X or the app.)
@@SweCrue To be clear, there's a difference between setting the crossover higher vs setting the EQ curtain in Audyssey higher. The crossover should be set to the optimal point based on your speakers' capabilities and how they interact with the room. 80hz is usually a good starting point, but experiment with content with mid-bass. I like using the track, "The End" by the Beatles because they pan the drums across the front 3 speakers and if it's crossed too high, you won't hear that since the sub(s) are handling those frequencies instead of the front speakers. In some rooms, it won't matter, but if your subs are far and aren't integrated well, you'll be able to tell the drums are coming from the subs. It happens within that 80hz-120hz region, so it's the perfect test.
Have a good weekend
You guys are great! i guess what you are stating on this is that:
first turn of all audyssey or in my case YAPAO then use the minidsp + MSO to flat then run YAPAO.
Thank you.
That sounds right. That will allow YPAO to see a "single combined sub".
First run your sub calibration via minidsp as shown by Home theater guru ep.7, then do your Audeyssey run etc for distance (delay) and spl. Set all speakers to small and turn OFF Audeyssey,ypao etc again. Enjoy!
(Before all this: treat your room. Home theater guru ep. 21-24)
This all makes sense except for turning off Audyssey after taking distance and SPL measurements and setting speakers to small. The viewer didn't specify whether they wanted to disable Audyssey completely or not. Perhaps, they want Audyssey on for the rest of their speakers.
Perhaps they do, but I think its good to challenge things that people "just do". In my theatre neither ypao nor Audeyssey do anything that benefits the sound.
It is for me most obvious in dialogue. It sounds "processed" or not as natural with room eq activated.
You do you, but it's free for the OP to try on/off.
For him, the big difference is minidsp for the bass. Audeyssey is just a small cherry on top that might or might not help out.
@@SweCrue I'm with you. I'm all for experimenting.
I think Audyssey with MultEQ-X can improve the sound of a system significantly. When used properly, and many people don't use it properly, it acts as a filter bank essentially turning your AVR into a giant MiniDSP with nearly unlimited slots for PEQ's.
You can also turn off midrange compensation, which I recommend doing.
Common on guys, this is simple one. Run mini dip 2X4 and get subs dialed in. Then run ausyssey and use the app which gives you the option to set the minimum correction frequency to 80Hz. Then Audsyssey won't apply any corrections to anything below 80Hz which is where the Mini DSP will take care of that.
Is this not what I said in the video, to calibrate using the MiniDSP first and Audyssey after? The only thing I would say about your method is that an 80hz curtain might not be enough. If you consider that using the Editor app, you can't disable correction for an entire channel like you can with MultEQ-X (by ignoring the measurement for a single channel.) That means that Audyssey will apply whatever correction it thinks it needs. In your case it will make unwanted corrections above 80hz. For the LFE channel, 120hz would be the minimum I would recommend for the curtain, but an octave higher would be even better to account for the 24dB/Octave crossover slope. In other words, you want Audyssey to stop correcting much higher in range so that it remains untouched at the crossover region at 120hz or 80hz, which is what you want since the subs have already been corrected prior.
But if the person wants to apply additional EQ to the summed bass response, then they should not apply any curtain.
Agree fully with Joe.
Personally I run a 120Hz XO.
My thinking is that since the LFE channel can contain up to 120hz freq. I want ALL that to be correctly handled by the minidsp.
This XO also gave me a smooth transition to the LCRs.
Also takes even more load of the recievers amps than a XO at 80.
(No experience at all with new Audeyssey X or the app.)
@@SweCrue To be clear, there's a difference between setting the crossover higher vs setting the EQ curtain in Audyssey higher. The crossover should be set to the optimal point based on your speakers' capabilities and how they interact with the room. 80hz is usually a good starting point, but experiment with content with mid-bass. I like using the track, "The End" by the Beatles because they pan the drums across the front 3 speakers and if it's crossed too high, you won't hear that since the sub(s) are handling those frequencies instead of the front speakers. In some rooms, it won't matter, but if your subs are far and aren't integrated well, you'll be able to tell the drums are coming from the subs. It happens within that 80hz-120hz region, so it's the perfect test.