Can we just stop for a moment, consider how the olympian gods react in most of greek mythology whenever someone annoys them just a little, and appreciate how insanely tolerant Hades is by comparison?
Great observation! I also always thought that it was obvious that while Hades isn't going to win any awards for fatherhood, it's clear that he loves Zagreus if only because Zagreus can prance around the House between runs and Hades just lets him mess around. He doesn't do anything to actually stop Zagreus from ransacking his realm and only appears at the very end when Zagreus is about to make it out. In his own way, he's such a softie.
If I recall correctly, Hades was actually quite decent towards the ones around him. He treated his wife with respect and wasn't a vengeful fuck like the other Gods. I dunno why most modern media portrays him as a villain, because from all the Greek pantheon, he was quite decent. No wonder the other Gods wanted him bound so far away from them. He was too good for Olympus.
thanatos is so duty-sworn and work is everything to him...except for when it comes to zagreus. proves just how deeply he's in love with him. the writing in this game is everything
The way Hades' voice dropped when he said 'You dare to lecture me' was terrifying. If I were Thanatos that would have made me teleport to the other end of the Earth.
Also, when he told Zagreus about how Persephone ended up in the underworld and made him swear an Oath to not tell anyone. At the end, he just says in the same low voice: "Remember your oath." Hades may be patient, but there are times, when he shows both his authority and what he considers serious business.
The last time Thanatos took an involuntary holiday, when Sisyphus had him locked up, it turned out to be a terrible idea. So I guess Thanatos has the ultimate job security.
@@Noriniain the myth the king sisyphus evades death so thanatos himself goes to get him, wielding a set of chains to ensure sisyphus can’t escape. sisyphus distracts thanatos by complimenting the chains and then chains thanatos up and. i think he locks him in a box? for half a year. ares gets so pissed off that no one in his wars are dying that he goes and frees thanatos, who refuses to try to retrieve sisyphus again. so sisyphus lives a nice long life, dies naturally and gets sentenced to push bouldy up a hill forever. pretty metal. also explains why thanatos is the way that he is: if i were him i’d be pissed out of my mind and antisocial too
This dialogue is absolutely incredible, such a powerful lovely character moment but how Thanatos's voice cracks while saying "He and I...." It's SO funny to me. It's like the most expressiveness we've heard in his voice and the logical part of me knows he is full of True Fear at this moment at what punishment Hades might inflict on him but it also just sounds like he just got caught sleeping with Lord Hades's son and is Panicking about it. Like. "My lord....I uhhh. He and I, we um. Your son...he...hm....uhhhh" Amazing interaction 10/10
You really have to love that Hades actively recognizes the Underworld is still only his realm to manage but its denizens don't owe him their lives. They all still have their own choices, the best one is to just abide by the House.
Oh my god the "" caption doesn't do the voice acting justice, it was more like he got hit right in the heart and the wind knocked out of him And who could blame him? Mr. Duty Bound, Mr. Job Comes First, and he looks the god he considers his boss in the eyes and says "lock me up in Tartarus, I'm helping Zagreus, sort your OWN shit" This is someone who KNOWS what the bite of chains feels like. Holy shit
Ha, well he certainly DOES considerin that's how Sisyphus tricked him the first time, but tying Thanatos up with magic chains the first time he came to get him, and then locking him in a box. Which is pretty funny to imagine with this game's version of Sisyphus and Thanatos, the big guy must have changed a LOT since he was a human to be so friendly and affable to Zagreus, he was a bit of a cunning trickster when he was alive.
@@sekira4516 He's certainly not broken, even if he's a bit mad because he had to mentally turn the Boulder of his punishment into a friendly figure or else he really would have cracked. He's grown immensely since he was alive and shows greater maturity and stoicism than most.
If Sisyphus can handcuff Than, put him in a broom closet and I assume just lean a chair against the door for what I suspect was years, I don't think Hades would have an incredible amount of issue dealing with him
Than: My loyalty is not subject to change His loyalty to Zagreus that is, because he drops the "my" from the "my lord" when addressing Hades and instead just calls him "lord" at the end
@@jackcassidy9963 however, even by firing Thanatos, Charon and Hermes would still be left to take care of the delivery of the souls, so what Hades uses is just an excuse
@@Nisselak Hermes and Thanatos deliver the souls, Charon just ferries them across the River Styx, he's not a psychopomp like the other two, and Thanatos is paramount because Hermes has other jobs, Thanatos doesn't.
The fact I've never seen this, having done everything in this game twice over (PS4 and PS5 versions have separate save data and separate trophy lists), really speaks volumes of how diverse the dialogue is. Looking forward to Hades 2.
For those who are unaware lots of Gods, champions, heroes and villains in Greek Mythology are bisexual so it make sense Thanatos was romantically in love with Zagreus.
Thanatos is death incarnate he collects the dead and sends them to the underworld his realm hades rules the dead who inhabit it and is the warden of Tartarus this is what i remember so i could be wrong with some of the details.
Hades rules over/organizes souls, but since this is the underworld aka realm of the dead, and thanatos is the god of death, i think hades considers the place technically belonging to thanatos. It's like Hades owns a business but the building he's using belongs to thanatos, that's how I think of it
In this game lore they say that the underworld is the realm of the Cthonic gods, not the olympians. So Hades rules the place but it is not his, and Tanathos is a Cthonic god. I thins this is what he means.
In Mythology Hades wasn't originally God OF anything, none of them were, Olympians were simply powerful divine beings. When they overthrew the titans, however, the three brothers drew lots to see who gained dominion over the sky, the sea and the underworld. Since Thanatos is the deification of Death, native to the Underworld, it's technically his birth realm whereas Hades is King of the Underworld and simply rules over it as it's imposed leader. Hades is there to make sure the Underworld is kept in check and nobody escapes/enters that is not meant to, Thanatos however actively sends souls to the place and without him the Underworld wouldn't NEED a King to rule it.
@@cupotea7698 this isn't entirely correct: Hermes also takes care of collecting souls, and Charon of their transport; but certainly without Thanatos enormous complications would arise in the underworld
Thanatos is the personification of death, while hades became the god of the underworld essentially by drawing straws. Hades is in charge, but without Thanatos nobody would be able to die, so he’s arguably more important to the underworld’s functioning than Hades is
Hades is the CEO, but Thanatos is the head of IT who's been with the company for 30 years and is the only one who knows how all the systems work. If Than quits or gets fired, everything goes to shit and there's nobody who can fix it in a timely manner.
Crazy I never got this. The dialog system is kinda wonky at times. The whole nyx not wanting Dusa and zag to talk is all outta whack for me. I only started getting it really late into the end of the game. Then that specific plot line would only up every 3/4 runs, sometimes with Dusa being afraid to talk to me and other times gleefully spouting off nonsense.
Know what I just noticed? Than has the same haircut as Victor from Yuri!!! On Ice. Wouldn't it be cute if in Hades 2, they brought Zag and Than back and had a little reference to Yuri and Victor? Like Than asks to borrow a bloodstone or something, and Zag drops it in front of him, and Than goes to grab it, and Zag pokes his hair. 😅😊🥰
![[Hades] Zagreus finally finds out who hired Skelly](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/HxjlpUZ_DDw/mqdefault.jpg)
Can we just stop for a moment, consider how the olympian gods react in most of greek mythology whenever someone annoys them just a little, and appreciate how insanely tolerant Hades is by comparison?
Great observation! I also always thought that it was obvious that while Hades isn't going to win any awards for fatherhood, it's clear that he loves Zagreus if only because Zagreus can prance around the House between runs and Hades just lets him mess around. He doesn't do anything to actually stop Zagreus from ransacking his realm and only appears at the very end when Zagreus is about to make it out. In his own way, he's such a softie.
@@Yidenia Persephone knows, that's what made her fall in love with him
Yeah, angering a god even a little almost always leads to tragedy. Granted, Hades is talking to family and his closest allies...
Yep. I mean heck, most of the mythology around Hera is basically her engaging in petty acts of vengeance on anyone who Zeus slept with.
If I recall correctly, Hades was actually quite decent towards the ones around him. He treated his wife with respect and wasn't a vengeful fuck like the other Gods. I dunno why most modern media portrays him as a villain, because from all the Greek pantheon, he was quite decent.
No wonder the other Gods wanted him bound so far away from them. He was too good for Olympus.
thanatos is so duty-sworn and work is everything to him...except for when it comes to zagreus. proves just how deeply he's in love with him. the writing in this game is everything
@@bluntlyhonest6803 -said by a 19th century historian
take 5 minutes to look up the canon romance route with thanatos please lmao
@prince_cletus there's no heterosexual explanation for this
Honest, nowdays is more surprising to find a romance of different gender instead of the same one lol.
@prince_cletus one of my favorite thanatos quotes! so powerful.
@@user-en4eo1cc4t liturally Zagreus and Meg? They are also an option
Than: You don't have all the facts
Hades: Which are?
Than: I love him 🥺
Wait he does??…oh thank gods, I was still unsure.
@@-Loki_Laufeyson- i mean, they yk
they did the thing.
sexed each other
did the sexing thing
Hades: Not my problem. But seeing as I still need you here, you may leave.
The way Hades' voice dropped when he said 'You dare to lecture me' was terrifying. If I were Thanatos that would have made me teleport to the other end of the Earth.
Also, when he told Zagreus about how Persephone ended up in the underworld and made him swear an Oath to not tell anyone. At the end, he just says in the same low voice: "Remember your oath." Hades may be patient, but there are times, when he shows both his authority and what he considers serious business.
To be fair, that wasn’t much of a lecture if even one at all.
The last time Thanatos took an involuntary holiday, when Sisyphus had him locked up, it turned out to be a terrible idea. So I guess Thanatos has the ultimate job security.
Yeah, PREEEEETTY much. XD
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Wait, Thanatos was locked up by Sisyphus??? How??? XD I guess that’s why he’s so set off by the guy xD
@@Noriniain the myth the king sisyphus evades death so thanatos himself goes to get him, wielding a set of chains to ensure sisyphus can’t escape. sisyphus distracts thanatos by complimenting the chains and then chains thanatos up and. i think he locks him in a box? for half a year. ares gets so pissed off that no one in his wars are dying that he goes and frees thanatos, who refuses to try to retrieve sisyphus again. so sisyphus lives a nice long life, dies naturally and gets sentenced to push bouldy up a hill forever.
pretty metal. also explains why thanatos is the way that he is: if i were him i’d be pissed out of my mind and antisocial too
@@lord_ozymandiasHALF A YEAR???
i thought he said "you've been bedding him" at first
well... it isn't wrong, is it?
Zagreus's room has no doors.
@@dazeyndrowsy Poor Hades can hear absolutely everything then
@@dazeyndrowsy i think about this way too often - it's even worse when you remember nyx stands right outside sometimes 🤣
@@theoneandonlyeverThat’s her son and foster child, too 😵💫
This dialogue is absolutely incredible, such a powerful lovely character moment but how Thanatos's voice cracks while saying "He and I...." It's SO funny to me. It's like the most expressiveness we've heard in his voice and the logical part of me knows he is full of True Fear at this moment at what punishment Hades might inflict on him but it also just sounds like he just got caught sleeping with Lord Hades's son and is Panicking about it. Like. "My lord....I uhhh. He and I, we um. Your son...he...hm....uhhhh" Amazing interaction 10/10
The God of Death is in love with the God of Blood?
How is this so romantic?
"And thus, they are inexorably drawn" 😢
God of live
Zagreus is actually god of reborn 🤓
@@petetez "Acctualy Zaggy mc Daddy problems Zagayus is the god of gods since he was supposed to take over olhmpus after zeus" 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
@@Ie_Froggy Another smart fella I see 🤓🤝🤓
As angry as Hades gets, his sense of responsibility is stronger than his impulsiveness.
That is why he's a good ruler of underworld
Unlike *someone* we all know
gotta love thanatos, dude is death itself and somehow still thinks hes replacable or not worthy of having a say in matters, really humble guy
You really have to love that Hades actively recognizes the Underworld is still only his realm to manage but its denizens don't owe him their lives. They all still have their own choices, the best one is to just abide by the House.
Oh my god the "" caption doesn't do the voice acting justice, it was more like he got hit right in the heart and the wind knocked out of him
And who could blame him? Mr. Duty Bound, Mr. Job Comes First, and he looks the god he considers his boss in the eyes and says "lock me up in Tartarus, I'm helping Zagreus, sort your OWN shit"
This is someone who KNOWS what the bite of chains feels like. Holy shit
Ha, well he certainly DOES considerin that's how Sisyphus tricked him the first time, but tying Thanatos up with magic chains the first time he came to get him, and then locking him in a box. Which is pretty funny to imagine with this game's version of Sisyphus and Thanatos, the big guy must have changed a LOT since he was a human to be so friendly and affable to Zagreus, he was a bit of a cunning trickster when he was alive.
@@BonnieBoestar because Sisyphus as man has been broken, driven mad by his sentence.
@@sekira4516 He's certainly not broken, even if he's a bit mad because he had to mentally turn the Boulder of his punishment into a friendly figure or else he really would have cracked. He's grown immensely since he was alive and shows greater maturity and stoicism than most.
What you yonna do, Heydeez?! Ground death?! Take his scite away?! Fire him?!
If Sisyphus can handcuff Than, put him in a broom closet and I assume just lean a chair against the door for what I suspect was years, I don't think Hades would have an incredible amount of issue dealing with him
@@stateofflorida5082 yea but what about the consequences
@@borantandogan5524 just get Dusa to do it instead, I am sure she would handle it....
@@stateofflorida5082 i believe in the myth sisyohus has thanatos captured for a few months
Hey deez, nuts!
Wow, this voice acting is heart wrenchingly wonderful...
true
I cant believe that hades and Achilles have the same voice actor, it’s insane
wait thats crazy
I know Zagreus, Skelly, and the music and Orpheus's singing is all Darren Korb, but didnt know that one
@@ovencake523 RIGHT? Achilles is so soft spoken and then hades is like *AAAGHHHHH*
They WAHT
Zag's Boyfriend just got scolded lol
Ironically, I got a ad for a marriage proposal before this video starts.
Other gods when someone annoys them: I’m mad
Hades when someone annoys him: I’m not mad, just disappointed.
Wow, I've never seen this piece of dialogue before
I think I reached 10 escapes too quickly to see it. Maybe you did, too. I wonder how much dialogue I missed.
Imagine if when Hades asked why Than was helping Zag he just went “bored”
I mean, in myth EVERYONE feared Thanatos except Hades, but even he was usually depicted as not being able to do much to or about him.
I like how some of the Hades lines here are reused when he's dealing with the queue of ghosts, like the "What" and "Begone" which are very distinct
Than: My loyalty is not subject to change
His loyalty to Zagreus that is, because he drops the "my" from the "my lord" when addressing Hades and instead just calls him "lord" at the end
Ahh i love this encounter. It's so cute!
its always intense when tsundere (Thanatos in this case) is honest for once
"do it, i don't care. I rule over death."
ah yes go and fire the only person that is keeping your business alive, smart move
"alive" heheh
The last thing Hades said to Thanatos was that he isn't gonna cast him out of his own realm and that there's no one that can replace him
@@jackcassidy9963 however, even by firing Thanatos, Charon and Hermes would still be left to take care of the delivery of the souls, so what Hades uses is just an excuse
@@Nisselak Hermes and Thanatos deliver the souls, Charon just ferries them across the River Styx, he's not a psychopomp like the other two, and Thanatos is paramount because Hermes has other jobs, Thanatos doesn't.
@@krossdreemurr42
the absence of Thanatos would create logistical problems and delays, no doubt, but it wouldn't completely block the souls's delivery
The fact I've never seen this, having done everything in this game twice over (PS4 and PS5 versions have separate save data and separate trophy lists), really speaks volumes of how diverse the dialogue is. Looking forward to Hades 2.
Tough on the outside, soft on the inside.
It’s ok, Than, Zag and Mag are going to have a sexy time soon so don’t stress.
For those who are unaware lots of Gods, champions, heroes and villains in Greek Mythology are bisexual so it make sense Thanatos was romantically in love with Zagreus.
"This is your realm not mine"
What does he mean?
Thanatos is death incarnate he collects the dead and sends them to the underworld his realm hades rules the dead who inhabit it and is the warden of Tartarus this is what i remember so i could be wrong with some of the details.
Hades rules over/organizes souls, but since this is the underworld aka realm of the dead, and thanatos is the god of death, i think hades considers the place technically belonging to thanatos. It's like Hades owns a business but the building he's using belongs to thanatos, that's how I think of it
In this game lore they say that the underworld is the realm of the Cthonic gods, not the olympians. So Hades rules the place but it is not his, and Tanathos is a Cthonic god. I thins this is what he means.
In Mythology Hades wasn't originally God OF anything, none of them were, Olympians were simply powerful divine beings. When they overthrew the titans, however, the three brothers drew lots to see who gained dominion over the sky, the sea and the underworld. Since Thanatos is the deification of Death, native to the Underworld, it's technically his birth realm whereas Hades is King of the Underworld and simply rules over it as it's imposed leader. Hades is there to make sure the Underworld is kept in check and nobody escapes/enters that is not meant to, Thanatos however actively sends souls to the place and without him the Underworld wouldn't NEED a King to rule it.
@@cupotea7698 this isn't entirely correct: Hermes also takes care of collecting souls, and Charon of their transport; but certainly without Thanatos enormous complications would arise in the underworld
Gotta save Dyluck again, huh?
I am confused、 what did he mean when he said "this is your realm, not mine"?
Thanatos is the personification of death, while hades became the god of the underworld essentially by drawing straws. Hades is in charge, but without Thanatos nobody would be able to die, so he’s arguably more important to the underworld’s functioning than Hades is
@@Tabbycat2701 Also he is the child of Nyx, and nyx has exist there before hades comes to rule the underworld so yeah its pretty much also his realm
Hades is the CEO, but Thanatos is the head of IT who's been with the company for 30 years and is the only one who knows how all the systems work. If Than quits or gets fired, everything goes to shit and there's nobody who can fix it in a timely manner.
Crazy I never got this.
The dialog system is kinda wonky at times. The whole nyx not wanting Dusa and zag to talk is all outta whack for me. I only started getting it really late into the end of the game. Then that specific plot line would only up every 3/4 runs, sometimes with Dusa being afraid to talk to me and other times gleefully spouting off nonsense.
Kind of funny to think Thanatos is far far older then Hades himself and his own dad Kronos.
Know what I just noticed? Than has the same haircut as Victor from Yuri!!! On Ice. Wouldn't it be cute if in Hades 2, they brought Zag and Than back and had a little reference to Yuri and Victor? Like Than asks to borrow a bloodstone or something, and Zag drops it in front of him, and Than goes to grab it, and Zag pokes his hair. 😅😊🥰