The craziest thing is, why would you ever use Pascal's Wager as a theist is beyond me. Really? THAT'S your reason that you believe in God(s)? To game the "system?" That is insulting...
The big irony is that Pascal's Wager, if properly constructed, actually indicates that withholding belief (aka atheism) is the most sensible position barring any definitive evidence for one god or the other.
_"Would 11 people really lay down their lives for a lie?"_ Under that logic, who would fly a passenger plane into a skyscraper for a lie? They even did it in the age of the internet, so there is no excuse for not having heard about lord Jebus.
@@evilbob840 Jonestown's got them beat. The Russian Old Believers committed a series of mass suicides during the Great Schism of the Russian Church that killed at least 20,000.
@@vinny142 "Not if they knew it was a lie." Wrong. People do happily die for something they know is a lie, on a regular basis, _if they believe the alternative is less desirable._ Parents confessing for crimes their children have committed, for instance; it's unthinkable for them to see their child punished, even if they deserve it, so they jump on that figurative grenade instead, knowing full well they're lying. If the disciples knew "Jesus" was a complete fraud but still thought getting idiots to worship him meant they got a free pass into heaven, well, they might consider that a noble sacrifice. But in the context of the apostles, it's horseshit anyway. The bible itself does not say any of the disciples died as punishment for their "faith"; some of them die of old age even. "Die for a lie" is just an apologist catchphrase for people who haven't read their magic book. ProfMTH made a series a long time ago covering each of the disciples and how they died, if their deaths are even known, and _none of them_ were persecuted to death for their faith in Jesus. The closest such death is basically like if you stole money from a guy and they offed you as revenge; it's not religious persecution even if it's a "wrongful death". I really need to go back and rewatch ProfMTH's videos because the details are fuzzy, but the "argument" that the disciples wouldn't die for a lie is wrong *twice.* They might, and they didn't.
Theist: "Did 3 years of non-stop research to conclude that Christianity is true” Hmm, this should be interesting. Maybe he’ll provide some new insights. Theist: “11 of the 12 Disciples of Jesus were martyred” Oh for the love of….3 years of non-stop research to regurgitate long debunked apologetics. Bro wasted his time.
Is it possible for a non-person to waste their time? Isn't that like saying the Inanimate Carbon Rod wasted its time sitting on a shelf for three years?
The idea that watching videos and reading information from your bubble is "research" may be the downfall of society. We're replacing science and expertise with memes and trolls. Welcome to Idiocracy.
There's an endless supply of people that'll tell you their 20 years of research lead them to finding the ark, this is the mildest side of "people that totally did their research"
Theist: narcissistic sociopath that does't act out their urges out of fear of an invisibel monster and eternal turture Atheist: member of a society with basic empathy
I've had a medical condition so rare it usually only happens in third world countries. And they don't know the cause. But it needed major surgery. They barely have a name for it.
I'm currently going through peri-menopause along side my autoimmune disorder. If God did this.. I surrender to Lisa the Rainbow Giraffe! Leaf be upon her.
Three engineers argue about the nature of god. First says god is a mechanical engineer. Points to the skeletal and muscular systems. Second says god is an electrical engineer. Points to the nervous and neural systems. Third says god is a civil engineer. Points to the excretory and reproductive systems. "Who else would run a waste pipeline through a playground?"
@@AbsurdlyGeeky The three engineers are wrong. God is an architect. Because the Architect makes up a bunch of wacky stuff that doesn't work then the engineers have to fix it up. Only for the architect then to throw out their corrections forcing the engineers to do stuff like run cabling in weird places or a sewer line through a playground...
After years of hearing apologists' babble I have yet to find one that isn't even a dismal proof of a generic creator let alone their particular flavor of god.
I'd argue the opposite; that the existence of apologists is extremely good supporting evidence for the _nonexistence_ of any gods, because any god would surely be so sick of their BS by now they'd have wiped them out of existence with a note saying "Stop making me look bad."
Lmao Matt Powell had to try so hard to avoid all the people that said "maybe there was a mudslide and it fossilized in that position" that he kept filming till the middle of night hoping to get anyone to agree with him
Channels especially Christian channels turning their comment section off, is the worst thing in the world! It enrages me cos i wanna comment to tell them why they're being dumb, so I avoid the channels altogether because nothing good can come of it most times. Matt P has primed these gullible and highly impressionable youngsters, and they don't want to say anything which goes against him, and he would edit it out anyway.
Those x-tians don't want their flocks to find out there are different opinions and someone pointing out where they're wrong. "Nothing says "open-mindedness:" like "comments disabled"
@@almcdermid9669 It occurs to me that none of these preachers/apologists can actually believe in their God. Since they are blatantly lying in so many of their videos they would be condemning themselves to hell, if what they are preaching was true. And I really doubt that anyone would want to do that just for a few extra YT views.
I find it more amusing than anger inducing thinking specifically about the creator & not the viewers as its such a clear demonstration of lack of confidence & hypocrisy.
@17:00 wow, it started with looking into conspiracy theories and ended with believing in Jesus. that's.... not a great selling point friend, but makes a lot of sense
I just want proof that I can choose to pass on a trip to hell/heaven for a trip to the 100-acre wood with Pooh Bear and Tigger and all of the pets I've had during my lifetime
Interesting you mention pets as there's a specific thing Iv heard about heaven but don't know. I can't remember where I heard it but it says animals don't go to heaven or hell. That immediately tells me wherever I go (going along for my point) I wouldn't be me as I wouldn't have or know about the beautiful animals iv had. 😶
@@snooganslestat2030 I think it's because they claim "animals don't have a soul", which is the part that goes to the afterlife. The same people that say "I'm not an animal. I'm human!" 🤨
Yea, when they describe the things their god does and did and also claim their god is all loving, they'll probably have a weird idea of what kindness is.
4. Science never did anything useful, it says so right here on the internet I'm looking at through my phone. 5. Science 100% proves God is real. 6. Science is completely fake. 7. _DON'T_ see #5 and #6 during the same month.
My purpose in life is to help make a better world for the children to grow up into. My prize is finally sleeping forever knowing I made more happiness than hatred.
Matt Powell, Poster Child for Anti-natalism. It's hard to wrap my head around how someone can be so monumentally ignorant, and be so proud of that ignorance.
He’s never been around a pond or body of water where trees grow around the edges. They fall down into the water and because the depth fall sideways and yes even upside down. Minerals slowly build up and prevent rot and in time minerals replace the wood. Alternatively bogs are a ready preservation factory, so to speak, and trees sink into it. Obviously a bit more complicated but we recently had a tornado snap some trees off into the water. One or two fell top first into the water, and because of the weight of the trunk don’t float. It’s just an anecdote, but it’s not hard to follow how a probably rare event happens.
Matt is NOT ignorant.....he's super dishonest....as in wilfully ignorant. He's had ALL of his bs debunked, to him personally, to his face in real time....muchless videos sent to him from content creators. He knows ALL the counter arguments to his stupid fallacious arguments. He dishonestly wilfully ignores it ALL. He must, his wallet is dependent on his wilful ignorance. In other words, he's a grifter.
@@Dayna-cd3zj I was thinking the same thing, but it just he comes across as really dumb. "It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it." Upton Sinclair
I would've told him straight up that 3 years of "research" is not enough to add credibility. Especially when his goal is to grasp the meaning of life, and he started with conspiracy trash.
This guy's "mission" is confusing. He states that atheists are liars and that he's out to show the lies they tell about his beliefs. Because, of course, people will listen intently to a person who calls them a liar. Great start. Why does he even try to point out supposed lies if he's not trying to convert atheists? Is it just so he can tell people they're wrong and he is right? An ego trip? smh I loved that Muslim video with ski mask guy. The argument is we can't have things existing forever because they'd have no beginning and no end. So they wouldn't exist. Which is why we believe in a God that has no beginning and no end. 20:02 -- Wait. Jesus had a Bible???
No, of the twelve disciples only Peter and one other were killed and we know little about the reasons for the killings. The other nine or ten disappeared into obscurity.
i like how the first guy tries to claim WE hit the nail one the head; as if we were the ones saying atheists are liars, when in his own example that certainly didn't happen. so he is congratulating himself for getting it "right"??
The statute of limitations on grand theft is 5 years. So if you rob a bank and get caught 20 years later, you will not pay for the crime. You go free. Only murder has no statute of limitations.
That sounds like something they say in order to get bank robbers/other criminals to come out of hiding five years later, lol. Idk, it's just a feeling I get but I find it strange that they would not get prosecuted after a time that is shorter than their sentence would most likely have been.
It occurs to me that none of these preachers/apologists can actually believe in their God. Since they are blatantly lying in so many of their videos they would be condemning themselves to hell, if what they are preaching was true. And I really doubt that anyone would want to do that just for a few extra YT views.
I love it when people use Pascal's wager...and don't understand one of its MAJOR flaws. If a Christian is wrong about believing God, and there is no God at all, then they lose nothing so why not do it? Well, what if they're wrong about God...and there's another deity in charge instead? What if somebody believes in the Christian God and it turns out the Muslim one was the right one, or the Jewish one even, after all? Well, then they lose everything anyway. They'll be in the same situation as the atheist. It's such a stupid argument.
It's weird though, they are atheists to every god but one but paradoxically still absolutely believe in their one god even though all the arguments they proffer about the other gods apply to their god.
Honestly, Pascal's Wager is what made me Agnostic/Atheist, especially after deconstructing the idea behind it: Instead of the typical formulation, I went: What traits could a god possibly possess, does such a god require me to act as if he exists, and is such a god worth worshipping. Long story short, no matter what god concept I could think of that made sense, It would either be evil, or not care about me being an atheist. But potentially be angry at me for doing bad things. So my conclusion is: being an Atheist is the safest bet, as the only gods that could piss of would be evil ones, and who cares about them. But being religious and doing evil in the name of god, could get you in trouble, unless you follow an evil god and that god exists.
I want to know how the perfect creator managed to mess up my feet, my thorax and my epiglottis/choking reflex so badly while still making me a prefect creation. Complete ignorance of any issues with the body does not make that body perfect.
How many times does a Christian need to be told that watching RUclips videos that agree with your Jeebusy presupps aren't research? Please, stop abusing the term.
it's rather odd that a lot of apologists seem to believe that, maybe if I tell an atheist about (random well-used and overly-debunked claim with zero evidence), then they'll convert. If/When they won't, then they rationalize it as "they must have hardened their hearts to the Truth^tm".
Now I'm all confused whether the Shoe is the Sign or if I should Follow the Gourd instead. Well, for the time being, I might just try to look at the bright side of life.
I love theists argue that the human body is so perfectly put together, while I look at the screen through my glasses with +2.5 and +4.5. Perfect, perfectly created to create migraines perhaps.
wait! 18:30 isnt the statute of limitations 20 years for bank robbery? if so, the judge would quite litteraly say "it was 20 years ago" and then let you go?
I love how MP is going around asking people how upside down log can get stucked into sediments And than explain it. And than ignore trees decompose for long time.
I'm watching DeconstructionZone currently, and what I see is that EVERY SINGLE theist in the comments, live chat or debates, are the ones who are actually lying about the bible and everything else. We show them what the bible says and they say "but that is not what it means" or "it's not in the bible" or "context matters" and so on. What a clownshow.
My question is why the ski mask kid is trying to pretend he is talking in the video. When Prophet of Zod made videos with his static head character, he used his own voice.
I've spent more than three years just researching the parts of the bible I needed for my book. It is a very narrow and specific set of things I have been researching and I am still learning more as I research. I listen to a lot of very academic and educated people who have spent decades in their research of their very specific area of biblical interest, like Dr Joshua Bowen and I know that if I brought up a subject that was beyond his field of expertise he would tell me that he didn't have expertise enough to comment and he would point me to other experts. All these experts are studying their infinitesimally tiny area of interest, comparative to the macrocosm of fields required to study the whole bible. You would need a lifetime of study for each book of the bible and you still wouldn't know everything there was to know about it. So pretending that three years gave you all the information you needed to have evidence a god was real is so asinine that no academic would take you seriously, which is why these people are not academics. Also pretending that eleven of the twelve disciples were martyred is a flat out lie. Of the twelve there might be two that we could claim were martyred because of their mention in extra biblical sources. It was my attempt to prove my faith that made me realise that I had no grounds for anything I believed, apart from having the misfortune of being raised in a cult and indoctrinated with the frankly hideous bullshit they believed. Also it's great that your faith made you a more moral person, which sounds like cliche bullshit but what about those people raised in faith whose parents told them they would kill them if they found out they were gay? Or the parents who disown their kids when they find out they are gay? Yet all my research demonstrates Jesus was perfectly fine with gay people and even says some are born gay and he is accepting of that. So it's odd that you can claim faith made you a better person, when faith makes so many worse. The truth is you chose to be a better person and faith had pretty much fuck all to do with it.
15:50. Teacher: "Pop quiz today about a subject most of you don't even know at all, and the rest of you - I might have given you the wrong information depending on which class of mine you took. If you pass this test, you can keep praising me, your Teacher, for a really-really long time. If you fail that test, I will torture you for a really-really long time." I'm ditching that class, thank you very much.
18:37 20 years ago you robbed a bank and 20 years later authorities find out depending on the crime, because i am not going to dig around to find out legislation for this, but someone tell this man about statute of limitiations on crimes. like, they literally do say in some cases "hey don't worry about it it was 20 years ago"
This is the game of eternal 'gotcha'. Who walks around thinking 'glad I'm wasting space in my brain about how a tree might be up-side-down just in case I run into some disingenuous youtuber', no one but people that study those things. So with zero context, zero information, putting college kids on the spot to answer a question that has nothing to do with a class they are currently taking means absolutely nothing. This reminds me of a guy I was debating with at the bar, he said 'well what about building 7!' I really didn't have much of an idea what he was talking about since none of our conversation had been talking about 9/11, but I figured thats what it might be in reference too based on the way this guy was arguing other points, but he just kept asking 'building 7?'. My response was 'well, clearly you have thoughts on it, so what are your thoughts', he refused to answer, just kept telling me to 'google it' and repeating 'building 7'. Like wtf gotcha you think you have there? People are strange.
Why is it never mentioned by preachers and other religious leaders that in Genesis 1:26, God said, "Let Us create man in Our image, after Our likeness"? My question is who are the "Us" and the "Our" that God is addressing? It can't be the Holy Spirit because the Holy Spirit doesn’t have a physical form. It can’t refer to Jesus because He had not been created yet, and it isn’t the angels, as they are of a different form. Therefore, it suggests that there must be more than one God, or this could simply be a construct created by man to explain our existence.
Some people claim that he was speaking to the angels, but nowhere in the Bible does it state that he was talking to them. This idea seems to be a fabrication designed to justify their beliefs, and it comes across as a desperate attempt to make sense of things.
3:24 ... Your "mission" should be, asking your flawless god, WHY you need to wear glasses ! and while your are at it, ask him how CANCER, fit's in his 'perfect' design ! or why so many children has to DIE in horrible pain, of hunger and/or diseases ! THEN you can come back, on your channel, to tell and explain it ALL, to all us dumb Atheist !
for the bank robbery , certain crimes have statues of limitations, while it's an complicated law with a lot of "It depends" attached to it, the answer is yes it is entirely possible that if you rob a bank 20 years ago the judge can look at the case and say "this happened 20 years ago and can't be prosecuted."
16:34 "have you seeked the correct answers?" He clearly hasn't sought any answers from a dictionary. Maybe it's just another difference between US and British English. If so: sorry.
She believes in lies and something greater, so I guess the greater the lie the more she believes it, and the greater the greater is greater for her to believe until she can find another lie that's even greater to also believe in.
These people often refer to a space-less, timeless, immaterial god. But that is the definition of a god who is literally nothing. The universe was created from nothing, by nothing? Furthermore, nobody has been saved from a fate that cannot exist. The person that you are will be erased when your brain dies. You cannot be conscious of anything, when that happens. In any case, no legal amendments require a killing. Sacrifices may have been considered logical thousands of years ago, but that was an era of great superstition.
@@Llortnerof I certainly don't expect them to possess any intelligence. They simply accept the logical absurdity of the Noah's Ark story, without considering the massive technical problems involved.
"I researched conspiracy theories for three years and now know everything." - guy who wants to be able to tell you what you're allowed to do in your own home and decide what your kids learn in school
12:08 "Dependant things depend on dependant things to infinity." For once, I would like to hear a theist clearly explain how this very logic doesn't apply to an infinite god, particularly right after or before claiming an infinite god solves the infinite loop problem. If we accept that A can be infinite, then it's not unreasonable to accept that B can be infinite without a reason why they would be different. "Because" or "My book says so" is not convincing.
I have seen a photo of a tree that had been deliberately turned upside down after ut was growing and the roots had started acting like branches and the branches were acting like roots. Looked really weird.
I've always found the idea that a "god who loves us" would consign us to eternal suffering based solely on us not being convinced of their existence odd. Like, DO they love us? Seems like this love is very conditional.
We have a garden place who took dead threes, buried them upside down, and planted flowers on the top/roots. Then let them be buried, and in a billion years people will scratch their heads at upside down tree fossils. For all we know, a caveman or dino artist planted the tree upside down to put flowers on top.
So for that Bank robber question, if 20 years later that figure out you did it, but they already punished someone else for it, does that mean you don’t go to jail?
The last guy mentioned a bank robber being caught 20 years later and still being prosecuted. Well, there's something called the statute of limitations. If they really didn't catch you for 20 years, they couldn't prosecute you for bank robbery. They may be able to prosecute lesser crimes,but not bank robbery.
Oh hey! I had a back and forth with that first guy because he posted a video that said "Atheists lie about the bible" but failed to give any examples. I pointed this out and was called a moron and I should watch his other videos for the answers.
It occurs to me that none of these preachers/apologists can actually believe in their God. Since they are blatantly lying in so many of their videos they would be condemning themselves to hell, if what they are preaching was true. And I really doubt that anyone would want to do that just for a few extra YT views.
I tried to believe but my logic just gets in the way. At 17 I met a guy who spent 2 years in India and brought about 200 comics back and I read them all, Indian comics are about their gods and their holy people and I fell in love with Hinduism so I believed in that but as I grew older I realised I just loved the mythology not the religion, now I'm back to being an atheist. I grew up without religion so it's very hard to believe in a divine being. I'm so thankful to my parents for not making me go to church. I thought the movie Search for the Lost Ark was about Noah's ark. lol
I don't remember who that first guy was,, but do you think anyone should tell him about causality at the quantum level? I've heard tell that it's not what we learned to expect . . . .
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The fact that she needed a Bible to tell her not to cheat. She’s not a catch she’s def a throwback lol
that's what she says. There's more divorces due to cheating (most of the times the wives) in religeous households.
Fear of punishment for doing X vs not doing X because you're not a despicable person means you don't actually have any morals.
like, okay... so religion maybe reduces sociopaths doing immoral things? good for them ig but that doesn't apply to the rest of the human population
Her eyes are soulless, like a doll's eyes - or a SHARK'S eyes according to Captain Quint in the movie Jaws! 😨
@@pigpuke You're so real ilysm
It's 2025 and people are still thinking Pascal's Wager is a thing?
It is a thing.
but not a good, well thought out, valid.... thing.
The craziest thing is, why would you ever use Pascal's Wager as a theist is beyond me. Really? THAT'S your reason that you believe in God(s)? To game the "system?" That is insulting...
The big irony is that Pascal's Wager, if properly constructed, actually indicates that withholding belief (aka atheism) is the most sensible position barring any definitive evidence for one god or the other.
@@Suthek Why is your channel name an alliteration of Sutekh? LOL
Pascal's fucking Casino up in here.
It's unfair that their stupidity hurts the rest of us and not them.
Same deal as drunk drivers; they're usually fine in lethal accidents. And boy do they get thirsty.
_"Would 11 people really lay down their lives for a lie?"_
Under that logic, who would fly a passenger plane into a skyscraper for a lie? They even did it in the age of the internet, so there is no excuse for not having heard about lord Jebus.
Why would the members of Heaven's Gate lay down their lives for a lie? There were even more than 11 of them.
@@evilbob840 Jonestown's got them beat. The Russian Old Believers committed a series of mass suicides during the Great Schism of the Russian Church that killed at least 20,000.
"Would 11 people really lay down their lives for a lie?"
Not if they *knew* it was a lie. But if they believed it was true: sure they would.
@@vinny142 "Not if they knew it was a lie."
Wrong. People do happily die for something they know is a lie, on a regular basis, _if they believe the alternative is less desirable._ Parents confessing for crimes their children have committed, for instance; it's unthinkable for them to see their child punished, even if they deserve it, so they jump on that figurative grenade instead, knowing full well they're lying. If the disciples knew "Jesus" was a complete fraud but still thought getting idiots to worship him meant they got a free pass into heaven, well, they might consider that a noble sacrifice.
But in the context of the apostles, it's horseshit anyway. The bible itself does not say any of the disciples died as punishment for their "faith"; some of them die of old age even. "Die for a lie" is just an apologist catchphrase for people who haven't read their magic book. ProfMTH made a series a long time ago covering each of the disciples and how they died, if their deaths are even known, and _none of them_ were persecuted to death for their faith in Jesus. The closest such death is basically like if you stole money from a guy and they offed you as revenge; it's not religious persecution even if it's a "wrongful death".
I really need to go back and rewatch ProfMTH's videos because the details are fuzzy, but the "argument" that the disciples wouldn't die for a lie is wrong *twice.* They might, and they didn't.
@@vinny142
Maybe they would even do it if they knew it was a lie if there was enough social pressures.
Theist: "Did 3 years of non-stop research to conclude that Christianity is true”
Hmm, this should be interesting. Maybe he’ll provide some new insights.
Theist: “11 of the 12 Disciples of Jesus were martyred”
Oh for the love of….3 years of non-stop research to regurgitate long debunked apologetics. Bro wasted his time.
No where in the bible does it say 11 of the 12 were martyred.
Is it possible for a non-person to waste their time? Isn't that like saying the Inanimate Carbon Rod wasted its time sitting on a shelf for three years?
The idea that watching videos and reading information from your bubble is "research" may be the downfall of society. We're replacing science and expertise with memes and trolls. Welcome to Idiocracy.
There's an endless supply of people that'll tell you their 20 years of research lead them to finding the ark, this is the mildest side of "people that totally did their research"
@@d_camara Similarly a lot of flerfs will lie and claim that they have used a zoom lens to bring a ship back from over the horizon.
You don’t have to be a soulless monster to be an apologist, but it helps…
Oh, I'm sorry . . . I misread your comment as, "You don't have to be a _souffle_ monster . . . ."
I'm not so sure about that first part. It seems more like a requirement to me.
@@johndemeritt3460 I hear they fall easily.
@@nonna_sof5889, oooo! _THAT_ was a -brilliant_ observation!
And let's hope they _keep_ falling easily!
All apologists are liars.
Theist: narcissistic sociopath that does't act out their urges out of fear of an invisibel monster and eternal turture
Atheist: member of a society with basic empathy
2:18 "I don't argue, I just correct people" what an opener.... The confidence in having every answer is astounding...no humility or curiosity.
American education is horrible. As someone whose body is messing up it is not perfectly created, it is a mishmash of body parts that sometimes works.
I've had a medical condition so rare it usually only happens in third world countries. And they don't know the cause. But it needed major surgery. They barely have a name for it.
I'm currently going through peri-menopause along side my autoimmune disorder. If God did this.. I surrender to Lisa the Rainbow Giraffe! Leaf be upon her.
Three engineers argue about the nature of god.
First says god is a mechanical engineer. Points to the skeletal and muscular systems.
Second says god is an electrical engineer. Points to the nervous and neural systems.
Third says god is a civil engineer. Points to the excretory and reproductive systems. "Who else would run a waste pipeline through a playground?"
Right. America. Because Abrahamic religions all started in America after 1776.
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The three engineers are wrong. God is an architect. Because the Architect makes up a bunch of wacky stuff that doesn't work then the engineers have to fix it up.
Only for the architect then to throw out their corrections forcing the engineers to do stuff like run cabling in weird places or a sewer line through a playground...
After years of hearing apologists' babble I have yet to find one that isn't even a dismal proof of a generic creator let alone their particular flavor of god.
I'd argue the opposite; that the existence of apologists is extremely good supporting evidence for the _nonexistence_ of any gods, because any god would surely be so sick of their BS by now they'd have wiped them out of existence with a note saying "Stop making me look bad."
Lmao Matt Powell had to try so hard to avoid all the people that said "maybe there was a mudslide and it fossilized in that position" that he kept filming till the middle of night hoping to get anyone to agree with him
Channels especially Christian channels turning their comment section off, is the worst thing in the world! It enrages me cos i wanna comment to tell them why they're being dumb, so I avoid the channels altogether because nothing good can come of it most times.
Matt P has primed these gullible and highly impressionable youngsters, and they don't want to say anything which goes against him, and he would edit it out anyway.
Those x-tians don't want their flocks to find out there are different opinions and someone pointing out where they're wrong.
"Nothing says "open-mindedness:" like "comments disabled"
He's a disciple of Kent Hovind, which means he might be a straight up grifter.
@@almcdermid9669 It occurs to me that none of these preachers/apologists can actually believe in their God.
Since they are blatantly lying in so many of their videos they would be condemning themselves to hell, if what they are preaching was true.
And I really doubt that anyone would want to do that just for a few extra YT views.
Comments are turned off because they know their ridiculous assertions cannot withstand scrutiny.
I find it more amusing than anger inducing thinking specifically about the creator & not the viewers as its such a clear demonstration of lack of confidence & hypocrisy.
@17:00 wow, it started with looking into conspiracy theories and ended with believing in Jesus. that's.... not a great selling point friend, but makes a lot of sense
That's what I thought when I heard him. Hilarious and painful
I just want proof that I can choose to pass on a trip to hell/heaven for a trip to the 100-acre wood with Pooh Bear and Tigger and all of the pets I've had during my lifetime
Interesting you mention pets as there's a specific thing Iv heard about heaven but don't know. I can't remember where I heard it but it says animals don't go to heaven or hell. That immediately tells me wherever I go (going along for my point) I wouldn't be me as I wouldn't have or know about the beautiful animals iv had. 😶
@@snooganslestat2030 I think it's because they claim "animals don't have a soul", which is the part that goes to the afterlife. The same people that say "I'm not an animal. I'm human!" 🤨
At least this guy isn't sitting in his car to do his video...
We don’t actually know where SkepTick makes his videos, do we?
If he were sitting, I would not care. But driving...
I have real trouble multitasking. I can barely stand and talk…
So true. How did that ever become a thing.
@TheSkepTick can you do more on paul ross?
Buy yourself a pint and tell Lisa I said hello.
14:27 "I live with kindness and bla bla bla.." and proceeds to try to mock Atheists. Make her count as a living contradiction.
There's no hate like Christian love.
Yea, when they describe the things their god does and did and also claim their god is all loving, they'll probably have a weird idea of what kindness is.
Stupid things theists said:
1. God exists
2. The Bible said god exists.
3. See #1 and #2
4. Science never did anything useful, it says so right here on the internet I'm looking at through my phone.
5. Science 100% proves God is real.
6. Science is completely fake.
7. _DON'T_ see #5 and #6 during the same month.
My purpose in life is to help make a better world for the children to grow up into. My prize is finally sleeping forever knowing I made more happiness than hatred.
Matt Powell, Poster Child for Anti-natalism. It's hard to wrap my head around how someone can be so monumentally ignorant, and be so proud of that ignorance.
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He’s never been around a pond or body of water where trees grow around the edges.
They fall down into the water and because the depth fall sideways and yes even upside down.
Minerals slowly build up and prevent rot and in time minerals replace the wood.
Alternatively bogs are a ready preservation factory, so to speak, and trees sink into it.
Obviously a bit more complicated but we recently had a tornado snap some trees off into the water.
One or two fell top first into the water, and because of the weight of the trunk don’t float.
It’s just an anecdote, but it’s not hard to follow how a probably rare event happens.
@@lucidlythinking857 It's hilarious how with Matt, everything points to an "event" that is entirely impossible.
Matt is NOT ignorant.....he's super dishonest....as in wilfully ignorant.
He's had ALL of his bs debunked, to him personally, to his face in real time....muchless videos sent to him from content creators.
He knows ALL the counter arguments to his stupid fallacious arguments.
He dishonestly wilfully ignores it ALL.
He must, his wallet is dependent on his wilful ignorance.
In other words, he's a grifter.
@@Dayna-cd3zj I was thinking the same thing, but it just he comes across as really dumb.
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it." Upton Sinclair
I enjoyed the guy who said he started with conspiracy theories but ended with God. Unironically.
I would've told him straight up that 3 years of "research" is not enough to add credibility. Especially when his goal is to grasp the meaning of life, and he started with conspiracy trash.
This guy's "mission" is confusing. He states that atheists are liars and that he's out to show the lies they tell about his beliefs. Because, of course, people will listen intently to a person who calls them a liar. Great start.
Why does he even try to point out supposed lies if he's not trying to convert atheists? Is it just so he can tell people they're wrong and he is right? An ego trip? smh
I loved that Muslim video with ski mask guy. The argument is we can't have things existing forever because they'd have no beginning and no end. So they wouldn't exist. Which is why we believe in a God that has no beginning and no end.
20:02 -- Wait. Jesus had a Bible???
It's cope content.
I need the blessings of Lisa Thanks!
It's convenient that 'everything MUST have a creator' except god.
I got banned by the guy who said atheists are liars 😂
Haha. No way!!
@TheSkepTick called me a liar and said there was a "context" for slavery and it wasn't "real" slavery in the bible 🙄
@@sampeeps3371 And he accuses us of not knowing what the bible says? That's rich.
@TheSkepTick he addressed my by name in one of his vids saying I was banned 🤣
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That was the CUTEST Lisa drawing ever. That needs to be a shirt. :D
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Sorry, Skeptick - that fabulous photo of Jesus made me a believer! Give Lisa a kiss from me.🤣
“…to prove that you’re a liar…” project much?
No, of the twelve disciples only Peter and one other were killed and we know little about the reasons for the killings. The other nine or ten disappeared into obscurity.
Jesus: "one of you will betray me tonight" ... all planned then , really ???? Are we just puppets ? Thank goodness we can think for ourselves.
i like how the first guy tries to claim WE hit the nail one the head; as if we were the ones saying atheists are liars, when in his own example that certainly didn't happen.
so he is congratulating himself for getting it "right"??
The statute of limitations on grand theft is 5 years. So if you rob a bank and get caught 20 years later, you will not pay for the crime. You go free. Only murder has no statute of limitations.
I was about to point this out... beat me to it
That sounds like something they say in order to get bank robbers/other criminals to come out of hiding five years later, lol. Idk, it's just a feeling I get but I find it strange that they would not get prosecuted after a time that is shorter than their sentence would most likely have been.
Ski-Mask and his fellow AI muslim TikTokers all seem to use the same script and all assume that quoting the Qur'an is persuasive.
I love the fact they want to say how athiests misrepresent the Bible but yet misrepresent what science says .
And often, the Bible as well.
It occurs to me that none of these preachers/apologists can actually believe in their God.
Since they are blatantly lying in so many of their videos they would be condemning themselves to hell, if what they are preaching was true.
And I really doubt that anyone would want to do that just for a few extra YT views.
Great lighting!!!! And audio!!! (Does he keep putting his hand over one side of his stereo microphone??? (First idiot... I mean Theist.)
12:28 I'll go with the Universe, not a god, always existing. I know the universe exists.
I love it when people use Pascal's wager...and don't understand one of its MAJOR flaws.
If a Christian is wrong about believing God, and there is no God at all, then they lose nothing so why not do it? Well, what if they're wrong about God...and there's another deity in charge instead?
What if somebody believes in the Christian God and it turns out the Muslim one was the right one, or the Jewish one even, after all? Well, then they lose everything anyway. They'll be in the same situation as the atheist.
It's such a stupid argument.
And don't get me started on any of the pagan religions.
Worse. A god that doesn't care about atheists but hates people who worship other gods in equally probable.
It's weird though, they are atheists to every god but one but paradoxically still absolutely believe in their one god even though all the arguments they proffer about the other gods apply to their god.
Honestly, Pascal's Wager is what made me Agnostic/Atheist, especially after deconstructing the idea behind it:
Instead of the typical formulation, I went: What traits could a god possibly possess, does such a god require me to act as if he exists, and is such a god worth worshipping.
Long story short, no matter what god concept I could think of that made sense, It would either be evil, or not care about me being an atheist. But potentially be angry at me for doing bad things. So my conclusion is: being an Atheist is the safest bet, as the only gods that could piss of would be evil ones, and who cares about them. But being religious and doing evil in the name of god, could get you in trouble, unless you follow an evil god and that god exists.
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I want to know how the perfect creator managed to mess up my feet, my thorax and my epiglottis/choking reflex so badly while still making me a prefect creation. Complete ignorance of any issues with the body does not make that body perfect.
How many times does a Christian need to be told that watching RUclips videos that agree with your Jeebusy presupps aren't research? Please, stop abusing the term.
20:02 I’m dying this section is so ridiculous. An actual PICTURE of Jesus hahahahahahahajshahahs
it's rather odd that a lot of apologists seem to believe that, maybe if I tell an atheist about (random well-used and overly-debunked claim with zero evidence), then they'll convert. If/When they won't, then they rationalize it as "they must have hardened their hearts to the Truth^tm".
Now I'm all confused whether the Shoe is the Sign or if I should Follow the Gourd instead. Well, for the time being, I might just try to look at the bright side of life.
Wait... Pascal's Wager!? Hadn't heard the "what if tho?" argument... That settles it. I'm convinced
I love theists argue that the human body is so perfectly put together, while I look at the screen through my glasses with +2.5 and +4.5.
Perfect, perfectly created to create migraines perhaps.
Especially when they wear glasses while saying how perfect the Human body is :D
I really hate when people use claims to prove what they belive it's my second most annoying thing thay do
Was that a picture of Jesus' supposed bible? He was a Jew so it should have been a scroll of the Torah.
Right? The entire New Testament was written after his death, so....
You and your cultural authenticity..... 😉
wait! 18:30 isnt the statute of limitations 20 years for bank robbery? if so, the judge would quite litteraly say "it was 20 years ago" and then let you go?
In the US, the statute of limitations depends on the state. For example, robbery in Texas is 5 years, Ohio is 20 years, and Rhode Island has no limit.
@autonomouscollective2599 ...texas you say?
I was thinking this exact thing, like hey look non-finite punishment for non-finite crimes
The first guy is so shifty that he can't even look into the lens of the camera.
I love how MP is going around asking people how upside down log can get stucked into sediments And than explain it.
And than ignore trees decompose for long time.
I really like the new shorter clips style of this video
There’s a whole playlist of these 😊
Great video as always ❤
Considering every dishonest apologist I've ever heard, I find the accusation that ALL atheists are liars is frankly hilarious.
17:05 - I guess he’s never heard of Jonestown.
I'm watching DeconstructionZone currently, and what I see is that EVERY SINGLE theist in the comments, live chat or debates, are the ones who are actually lying about the bible and everything else.
We show them what the bible says and they say "but that is not what it means" or "it's not in the bible" or "context matters" and so on.
What a clownshow.
Also, why does the ski mask video sound like one of those AI channels?
Yeah I've heard that voice in so many videos, that's the first I've heard it in a religious video, Muslim even.
My question is why the ski mask kid is trying to pretend he is talking in the video. When Prophet of Zod made videos with his static head character, he used his own voice.
I've spent more than three years just researching the parts of the bible I needed for my book. It is a very narrow and specific set of things I have been researching and I am still learning more as I research. I listen to a lot of very academic and educated people who have spent decades in their research of their very specific area of biblical interest, like Dr Joshua Bowen and I know that if I brought up a subject that was beyond his field of expertise he would tell me that he didn't have expertise enough to comment and he would point me to other experts. All these experts are studying their infinitesimally tiny area of interest, comparative to the macrocosm of fields required to study the whole bible. You would need a lifetime of study for each book of the bible and you still wouldn't know everything there was to know about it. So pretending that three years gave you all the information you needed to have evidence a god was real is so asinine that no academic would take you seriously, which is why these people are not academics. Also pretending that eleven of the twelve disciples were martyred is a flat out lie. Of the twelve there might be two that we could claim were martyred because of their mention in extra biblical sources.
It was my attempt to prove my faith that made me realise that I had no grounds for anything I believed, apart from having the misfortune of being raised in a cult and indoctrinated with the frankly hideous bullshit they believed. Also it's great that your faith made you a more moral person, which sounds like cliche bullshit but what about those people raised in faith whose parents told them they would kill them if they found out they were gay? Or the parents who disown their kids when they find out they are gay? Yet all my research demonstrates Jesus was perfectly fine with gay people and even says some are born gay and he is accepting of that. So it's odd that you can claim faith made you a better person, when faith makes so many worse. The truth is you chose to be a better person and faith had pretty much fuck all to do with it.
15:50. Teacher: "Pop quiz today about a subject most of you don't even know at all, and the rest of you - I might have given you the wrong information depending on which class of mine you took. If you pass this test, you can keep praising me, your Teacher, for a really-really long time. If you fail that test, I will torture you for a really-really long time."
I'm ditching that class, thank you very much.
A photo of Jesus? Did someone time travel to get it? If so, why didn't they get a better one?
Don't most time machines use the same thing UFOs use when people try to take a picture of them?
That's the best they could get!
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20 years ago you robbed a bank and 20 years later authorities find out
depending on the crime, because i am not going to dig around to find out legislation for this, but someone tell this man about statute of limitiations on crimes. like, they literally do say in some cases "hey don't worry about it it was 20 years ago"
So if everything that exists needs a creator and god exists, what created god?
Answer: the imagination of one cave man.
@@AxeMurderer2222 Yup, and then another who didn't want to work invented religion.
this man has impuned my honour, anyone want in on a class action court case?
The fates of The Eleven aren't mentioned in the NT except for Peter. The rest are in later legends.
Yep! "Church Tradition" or Christian fan fiction as I like to call it.
The thing about analogies is that they have to share properties. Which properties are shared by a letter on a whiteboard and the universe?
Holy crap, this video's turned into Pascal's Casino
3:40 What was the context of you losing your job in 2024?
This is the game of eternal 'gotcha'. Who walks around thinking 'glad I'm wasting space in my brain about how a tree might be up-side-down just in case I run into some disingenuous youtuber', no one but people that study those things. So with zero context, zero information, putting college kids on the spot to answer a question that has nothing to do with a class they are currently taking means absolutely nothing.
This reminds me of a guy I was debating with at the bar, he said 'well what about building 7!' I really didn't have much of an idea what he was talking about since none of our conversation had been talking about 9/11, but I figured thats what it might be in reference too based on the way this guy was arguing other points, but he just kept asking 'building 7?'. My response was 'well, clearly you have thoughts on it, so what are your thoughts', he refused to answer, just kept telling me to 'google it' and repeating 'building 7'. Like wtf gotcha you think you have there? People are strange.
I find the opposite; ie that theists are the most dishonest of people.
Sorry i didn't hear any of that i was distracted by the space rocks in the background only having a 18 second loop
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@Pystoria on what?
*-wait nnnnnoooooooooooo*
Why is it never mentioned by preachers and other religious leaders that in Genesis 1:26, God said, "Let Us create man in Our image, after Our likeness"? My question is who are the "Us" and the "Our" that God is addressing? It can't be the Holy Spirit because the Holy Spirit doesn’t have a physical form. It can’t refer to Jesus because He had not been created yet, and it isn’t the angels, as they are of a different form. Therefore, it suggests that there must be more than one God, or this could simply be a construct created by man to explain our existence.
Some people claim that he was speaking to the angels, but nowhere in the Bible does it state that he was talking to them. This idea seems to be a fabrication designed to justify their beliefs, and it comes across as a desperate attempt to make sense of things.
3:24 ... Your "mission" should be, asking your flawless god, WHY you need to wear glasses ! and while your are at it, ask him how CANCER, fit's in his 'perfect' design ! or why so many children has to DIE in horrible pain, of hunger and/or diseases ! THEN you can come back, on your channel, to tell and explain it ALL, to all us dumb Atheist !
for the bank robbery , certain crimes have statues of limitations, while it's an complicated law with a lot of "It depends" attached to it, the answer is yes it is entirely possible that if you rob a bank 20 years ago the judge can look at the case and say "this happened 20 years ago and can't be prosecuted."
16:34 "have you seeked the correct answers?" He clearly hasn't sought any answers from a dictionary. Maybe it's just another difference between US and British English. If so: sorry.
Nope. "Seeked" is not correct in any dialect of US English that I'm aware of. That guy's just ignorant.
Nope. Definitely not proper grammar. "Seeked" is just coming from someone with a terrible education. He should have used the word "sought".
She believes in lies and something greater, so I guess the greater the lie the more she believes it, and the greater the greater is greater for her to believe until she can find another lie that's even greater to also believe in.
These people often refer to a space-less, timeless, immaterial god. But that is the definition of a god who is literally nothing. The universe was created from nothing, by nothing? Furthermore, nobody has been saved from a fate that cannot exist. The person that you are will be erased when your brain dies. You cannot be conscious of anything, when that happens. In any case, no legal amendments require a killing. Sacrifices may have been considered logical thousands of years ago, but that was an era of great superstition.
What do you expect from people that consider a global flood that covered mountains to be the most logical reason for a tree being upside down.
@@Llortnerof I certainly don't expect them to possess any intelligence. They simply accept the logical absurdity of the Noah's Ark story, without considering the massive technical problems involved.
Kneel before Zod - Terence Stamp, Superman 2.
"I researched conspiracy theories for three years and now know everything."
- guy who wants to be able to tell you what you're allowed to do in your own home and decide what your kids learn in school
Anyone want to tell the second to last guy about the statute of limitation?
THAT LAST EXAMPLE DIDN'T EVEN CARE ENOUGH TO CORRECT TYPO "THRONES" INSTEAD OF "THORNS"
Hey it could still be a crown of thrones... if the throne is for someone who is into that sort of seat?
That guy claiming Jebus existed… I swear I read ‘Netflix … something’.
12:08 "Dependant things depend on dependant things to infinity."
For once, I would like to hear a theist clearly explain how this very logic doesn't apply to an infinite god, particularly right after or before claiming an infinite god solves the infinite loop problem.
If we accept that A can be infinite, then it's not unreasonable to accept that B can be infinite without a reason why they would be different. "Because" or "My book says so" is not convincing.
It's not lies if the facts back it up
I have seen a photo of a tree that had been deliberately turned upside down after ut was growing and the roots had started acting like branches and the branches were acting like roots. Looked really weird.
I've always found the idea that a "god who loves us" would consign us to eternal suffering based solely on us not being convinced of their existence odd. Like, DO they love us? Seems like this love is very conditional.
“Conspiracy theories led me to Jesus Christ”
That seriously needs to be made into a t-shirt.
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Matt Powell using the Ray Comfort method of asking random morons on the street and cutting out the ones that can answer correctly. 😂
They’re equally obnoxious. Comfort doesn’t let anyone else see my comments on his channel.
We have a garden place who took dead threes, buried them upside down, and planted flowers on the top/roots. Then let them be buried, and in a billion years people will scratch their heads at upside down tree fossils. For all we know, a caveman or dino artist planted the tree upside down to put flowers on top.
So for that Bank robber question, if 20 years later that figure out you did it, but they already punished someone else for it, does that mean you don’t go to jail?
The last guy mentioned a bank robber being caught 20 years later and still being prosecuted. Well, there's something called the statute of limitations. If they really didn't catch you for 20 years, they couldn't prosecute you for bank robbery. They may be able to prosecute lesser crimes,but not bank robbery.
Oh hey! I had a back and forth with that first guy because he posted a video that said "Atheists lie about the bible" but failed to give any examples. I pointed this out and was called a moron and I should watch his other videos for the answers.
It occurs to me that none of these preachers/apologists can actually believe in their God.
Since they are blatantly lying in so many of their videos they would be condemning themselves to hell, if what they are preaching was true.
And I really doubt that anyone would want to do that just for a few extra YT views.
What’s the of tangles?
So now Matt Bannana boy Powell is denying GRAVITY! What a smug fool.
Odin must be real, because he went out to kill the ice giants, and they aren't around anymore.
Ah! The invisible crutch, sorry I don't need one, I stand on my own two feet, I'm not a coward.
Faith is the process of convincing yourself that the lies you invent to justify your imagination are true.
"I searched for truth, starting with conspiracy theories." Tell me you're a gullible fool without telling me you're a gullible fool.
In the other video he did say that we are "liars that are actually believers"
I tried to believe but my logic just gets in the way. At 17 I met a guy who spent 2 years in India and brought about 200 comics back and I read them all, Indian comics are about their gods and their holy people and I fell in love with Hinduism so I believed in that but as I grew older I realised I just loved the mythology not the religion, now I'm back to being an atheist. I grew up without religion so it's very hard to believe in a divine being. I'm so thankful to my parents for not making me go to church. I thought the movie Search for the Lost Ark was about Noah's ark. lol
To be fair, polytheistic gods make for great superheroes.
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Isn't that how the superhero got invented? Like Superman is based off Hercules?
@@stylesrj Hey, I wouldn't be surprised at all if that's the case. Although Hercules wasn't a god as far as I know?
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True he is the son of a god in some canon... and Superman is the son of Krypton... the writers knew what they were doing :D
I don't remember who that first guy was,, but do you think anyone should tell him about causality at the quantum level? I've heard tell that it's not what we learned to expect . . . .