I wish there was something like a “thrift store mall” where you could have a bunch of thrift stores or just one mega large thrift store with a bunch of cafes and restaurant around it ,so you can go shopping as usual but for a lower price 😭 i love shopping in regular malls so much but it’s always so expensive, so I end up spending so much money for very basic clothes :(
We have a few of those where I live (not in USA, sorry) and it's so exhausting but rewarding at the same time😅. It's an old cinema building converted to shops and there would be atleast a handful of thrift stores per floor. But the big thrift shops I see in the US don't seem too bad as well, especially during sales. I would love to visit those someday. I just live quite far away from that place now, and where I am I don't have any shortage of thrift stores(all walking distance from home, yay), and tbh I don't need as much clothes now because I still don't go out very much and have focused more on quality vs quantity
I saw this title and I said yup this is me! Thrifting has seriously warped my sense of pricing nowadays 😅😂 & ZARA be smoking that good sh* nowadays for their pricing 😌
OMG YES!! There was this one store doing a sale so I got a few tops and sweatpants for like $20-30 each but they feel exactly like some of the shein clothes I had 😟 It’s true that every shop just sells the same items from exploited China shops but up price it from $5 to $30. Like I wouldn’t even be mad if the quality matched the price, but it doesn’t and it clearly takes advantage of the social image of malls and retail stores being more “legitimate” and fancier. Makes ppl even question why spend more in the first place? And if paying more even benefits the original labor workers bc you don’t know if they’re being paid a wage that equates to the heavy price, or if that was just the store’s greed
tbh the only mall store I will ever shop at now is uniqlo because it has a nice vibe and stuff is more affordable there. Plus their medium sizing fits me well. All of the other stores have overpriced cheap quality fast fashion items that tear after a few months. I've found that what I wear most consistently is basically whatever I thrifted so I just do that now esp since modern fashion has shifted to vintage thrifting. And you can find some good quality stuff that doesn't exist anymore.
True most of my everyday wear and work wear is from the thrift store. I have lots of new unworm clothes (off topic lol) but its much easier for me to wear the thrifted clothes everyday since they were so cheap and already preworn lol. Even if they wear out more overtime, its okay cause i didnt invest so much into it. I recently just got a $120 nwt coat for only $25 at platos closet. Yoooo i wear that everyday now. It was one of the best values of my money xD. Also off topic but i had like group lunch with one of my managers like gen x or something. Clearly different generation, also pay level lol, but she was talking about buying like $150 shoes. And i guess stores she likes to shop. Which is fine. The millenials said they used to shop more named brands but downgraded to the target. But im like the anonymous thrifter in the group lol. Like different generation shopping habits (im a zelenial but classified as millenial lol)
@@babighoul7213 idk about you but all jackets i got from Uniqlo has lasted me 3 years.. still going strong lol. Their t shirt and sweaters are pretty decent.
I went to the mall today and stores like bath and body works and Victoria secrect pink sold items for 50-60 percent off. At bath and body works body mists were 3-5 bucks. That’s a major good deal cuz usually body mists and perfumes at other areas cost like 15 bucks just for one. I mainly get my clothes from Burlington. Occasionally I’ll go the mall but Burlington, tjmax are my go to for clothes and asseories
But also Zara, HM, and fast fashion in general has warped people’s perception into thinking clothing is supposed to be cheap when historically it never really was. People would invest in high quality pieces and wear them for as long as they could. They’d mend damage or rework it until the garment was unusable anymore. The problem with Zara (one of the many problems with Zara) is they’re charging high quality prices for extremely low quality product. They basically sell fancy dust rags cuz that’s what you’ll be using their pieces for within a month or two of purchase.
@@cameroncintron6705 you’re absolutely right . I was reading about high fashion too , where it used to be relatively more affordable than it is now, and they have increased their prices and decreased quality, h’m and f21 had more of an impact on all fashion than many realize
THANK GOD! Guuurl i was freaking out i thought i was going crazy and then i realized through this video that actually there are other people around the world who thinks buying clothes for like $40 and even more it's expensive! I live in Venezuela and we have an economic crisis, due to that buy clothes it's such mess because it's reaaaally expensive, especially at the mall, we have like basic clothes, nothing special, just like you showed in the video, costing like 40 50 60 even 100 dollars...... WTF, i thought yeah it's because i live in Venezuela, so I thought everyone outside would actually buy clothes at those prizes, i'm glad people knows the true worth of money! how can brands think we will throw money like that?! as we can see those clothes aren't worth of that amount of money
thrift store isnt popular in my country, i have to go to the mall and drop 150 or 300$ on a shirt(i dont know the cost in US, but it is too much!) edit: 300 ttd is 44.21 usd and its considered unreasonable price for many items
I know this is such an asshole thing to do but I always go into a high end store, check a price tag and be like "what the fuuuuck you can get this in primark for a fiver"
Actually me, all my life buying 2/3 things at the mall and now I've discovered the wonders of online shopping, for FAIR PRICES, got myself more than 10 pieces coming this week for about the price. lol
Love target for new clothes. I wait for the clearance to drop significantly. I know that kinda sounds bad but all is fair in waiting 🤷♀️🤣. Altho if i find some cute wild fable jeans i usually buy at full sale cause they fit so good on my difficult to fit body and they sell out super quick 🙃. I think most of the WF jeans barely make it to clearance. Altho it seems the clearance is getting a bit better more recently and seems target isnt selling as much full price now, keeping inventory for longer (cause obv the inflation people watching their frivolous spends now.....)
WOA WOA WOA WAIT, so you are telling me that this one aviator jacket costs 149 dollars in the us while it costs 84.25 dollars in spain, THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS
I went to the mall today after like months, and got ntg. Moral of the story thrifting is so fun and better to find unique pieces. Who’s gonna pay 200 bucks on a jacket not me.
Thrifting is literally just normal shopping but the prices are extremely small and lower, there are both hit and misses and some of the stuff is ugly and some of the stuff is stylish af
Ok I live in Queensland in a town so there is not big malls there’s shopping centres which are like malls but smaller and cheaper but big w there were new year specials on and I got a plain shirt for $3 I got 3 of them
Y'all in these comments on about thrifting like the uk has shitty thrift shops like I don't even think we actually have them other than like the charity shop witch sells random old kids books, clothes that ur 70 yr old neighbour called Mary handed in and some random old clothes that someone's mum gave in that are literally falling apart 🫣👍
Yea i know right ?! I wanna know where this good thrifting exists !!! In larger American cities (where there is more wealth gap and people really need to have access to cheap clothes) goodwill and other thrifts are soooo pricey . I’m in California and the goodwill a few blocks from me doesn’t have a shirt for under $8 even if they’re stained or ripped . I saw a nike pullover sweater I liked… $18 , like huh ? It’s cheaper to go to target or something which is a shame .
check out my newest video girll!! i’ve been seeing a lot of comments saying they don’t have thrift stores near them. imma try and make it a series to find the best affordable clothing store.
You can get everything sm cheaper online and can usually find a coupon too. I found a cute scarf irl but it was $40 nah I’ll just buy it online with a coupon 🙄
Your mall has a Nando's??? Ok that's worth going to the mall for. I fucking love Nando's. Chicken with the medium peri-peri sauce, fries, and salad. **chef's kiss** So good. And ok what store were those fox sweaters at? 👀 lmao
Just got recommended your channel very relatable, I only bought a blouse from a mall once when I was younger and never wore it tbh. Also 8:38 what are these shoes called?
3:24 plssss are those CAD and not US dollars??? i'm in europe where eur kinda equals usd rn and omfgggg jackets are 100 MAX. I got a rlly similar jacket at zara for 90 (still expensive but worth it)
People really need to take a break for a second and realise that clothes have gotten considerably cheap over the years. We just buy so much that it gets kinda expensive. 65 dollars for a jacket is super cheap if it were made from good materials, we’ve just been taught that bad quality a,d overconsumptio, is normal
why would i spend up to 40 dollars just for a satin dress in zara when i can find a ton of those in thrift stores for 1-2 dollars in where im from lol fast fashion is soooo not worth it anymore
Why? Is it because of Joel Golby if you're 25 or older? He says that all women 25 years old and older are too old to go shopping at the mall. He punished me with weight gain for shopping at the mall when I was 25 years old and talking to my friend who was under the age of 22 years old.
Lmao after looking at the thumbnail ( of you wearing the racing jacket) I had expected you to talk about how clothes don't fit you in the mall, which is the reason you don't shop there...
I wish there was something like a “thrift store mall” where you could have a bunch of thrift stores or just one mega large thrift store with a bunch of cafes and restaurant around it ,so you can go shopping as usual but for a lower price 😭 i love shopping in regular malls so much but it’s always so expensive, so I end up spending so much money for very basic clothes :(
Like an outlet mall?...
We have a few of those where I live (not in USA, sorry) and it's so exhausting but rewarding at the same time😅. It's an old cinema building converted to shops and there would be atleast a handful of thrift stores per floor. But the big thrift shops I see in the US don't seem too bad as well, especially during sales. I would love to visit those someday.
I just live quite far away from that place now, and where I am I don't have any shortage of thrift stores(all walking distance from home, yay), and tbh I don't need as much clothes now because I still don't go out very much and have focused more on quality vs quantity
There is in Indonesia, it's not a mall but similar hehe
Yesss I would love this 💕
so a boutique
I saw this title and I said yup this is me! Thrifting has seriously warped my sense of pricing nowadays 😅😂 & ZARA be smoking that good sh* nowadays for their pricing 😌
felt, but also, the emoji you used at the end made me chuckle
@@cymonegottired8407 😂
LMFAO FRRR
ZARA got so expensive!! Like who they think they are, it's always the same cheap material
@@istilldontknowmyname7324 I said the same exact thing! 😂
when retail stores charge $30 for a basic, cheaply made crop top 🙃
OMG YES!! There was this one store doing a sale so I got a few tops and sweatpants for like $20-30 each but they feel exactly like some of the shein clothes I had 😟 It’s true that every shop just sells the same items from exploited China shops but up price it from $5 to $30. Like I wouldn’t even be mad if the quality matched the price, but it doesn’t and it clearly takes advantage of the social image of malls and retail stores being more “legitimate” and fancier. Makes ppl even question why spend more in the first place? And if paying more even benefits the original labor workers bc you don’t know if they’re being paid a wage that equates to the heavy price, or if that was just the store’s greed
I went to Springfield mall the other day and realized the only thing malls are good for these days is auntie Anne’s and Cinnabon
omg this is facts
this is literally me. the shopping mall is boring, thrifting is so much more fun!
YES it’s like finding treasures 😭
@@RebeccaKo exactlly!!
brooo this is me, this why i dont stop at the mall anymore. like whos gonna drop $30 on a t shirt when youve been thrifting it for $3
THIS FR THO 😩😩😩
Right! Bruh this is me all the time now. I’m like oh nah I saw this at the thrift last week 😌
Really True
No cause I literally got a shirt not 2 3 or 4 1 shirt FOR 40 DOLLARS
@@bruisedknees1647 and you'll remember that it cost $40 every time you wear it 😭
tbh the only mall store I will ever shop at now is uniqlo because it has a nice vibe and stuff is more affordable there. Plus their medium sizing fits me well. All of the other stores have overpriced cheap quality fast fashion items that tear after a few months. I've found that what I wear most consistently is basically whatever I thrifted so I just do that now esp since modern fashion has shifted to vintage thrifting. And you can find some good quality stuff that doesn't exist anymore.
omg i LOVE that store too!! that’s a perfect description. i didn’t even think to go to it I FORGOT!!
What Uniqlo is mad expensive too tho 😭
No offence but uniqlo is fast fashion
True most of my everyday wear and work wear is from the thrift store. I have lots of new unworm clothes (off topic lol) but its much easier for me to wear the thrifted clothes everyday since they were so cheap and already preworn lol. Even if they wear out more overtime, its okay cause i didnt invest so much into it. I recently just got a $120 nwt coat for only $25 at platos closet. Yoooo i wear that everyday now. It was one of the best values of my money xD.
Also off topic but i had like group lunch with one of my managers like gen x or something. Clearly different generation, also pay level lol, but she was talking about buying like $150 shoes. And i guess stores she likes to shop. Which is fine. The millenials said they used to shop more named brands but downgraded to the target. But im like the anonymous thrifter in the group lol. Like different generation shopping habits (im a zelenial but classified as millenial lol)
@@babighoul7213 idk about you but all jackets i got from Uniqlo has lasted me 3 years.. still going strong lol. Their t shirt and sweaters are pretty decent.
I went to the mall today and stores like bath and body works and Victoria secrect pink sold items for 50-60 percent off. At bath and body works body mists were 3-5 bucks. That’s a major good deal cuz usually body mists and perfumes at other areas cost like 15 bucks just for one. I mainly get my clothes from Burlington. Occasionally I’ll go the mall but Burlington, tjmax are my go to for clothes and asseories
The issue isn’t that the mall is expensive it’s that peoples salaries and allowances don’t match their prices 😭
truuu but some pieces just were not worth the price in terms of quality 😭
But also Zara, HM, and fast fashion in general has warped people’s perception into thinking clothing is supposed to be cheap when historically it never really was. People would invest in high quality pieces and wear them for as long as they could. They’d mend damage or rework it until the garment was unusable anymore. The problem with Zara (one of the many problems with Zara) is they’re charging high quality prices for extremely low quality product. They basically sell fancy dust rags cuz that’s what you’ll be using their pieces for within a month or two of purchase.
@@RebeccaKo absolutely their production quality worsens each year but also become more and more expensive
@@cameroncintron6705 you’re absolutely right . I was reading about high fashion too , where it used to be relatively more affordable than it is now, and they have increased their prices and decreased quality, h’m and f21 had more of an impact on all fashion than many realize
No it's expensive.
THANK GOD! Guuurl i was freaking out i thought i was going crazy and then i realized through this video that actually there are other people around the world who thinks buying clothes for like $40 and even more it's expensive! I live in Venezuela and we have an economic crisis, due to that buy clothes it's such mess because it's reaaaally expensive, especially at the mall, we have like basic clothes, nothing special, just like you showed in the video, costing like 40 50 60 even 100 dollars...... WTF, i thought yeah it's because i live in Venezuela, so I thought everyone outside would actually buy clothes at those prizes, i'm glad people knows the true worth of money! how can brands think we will throw money like that?! as we can see those clothes aren't worth of that amount of money
thrift store isnt popular in my country, i have to go to the mall and drop 150 or 300$ on a shirt(i dont know the cost in US, but it is too much!)
edit: 300 ttd is 44.21 usd and its considered unreasonable price for many items
I know this is such an asshole thing to do but I always go into a high end store, check a price tag and be like "what the fuuuuck you can get this in primark for a fiver"
LMFAOOO let’s shop together 😭😭
Actually me, all my life buying 2/3 things at the mall and now I've discovered the wonders of online shopping, for FAIR PRICES, got myself more than 10 pieces coming this week for about the price. lol
imagine being this naturally funny 😭😭
LY 😭❤️
The most relatable video LITEALLY bc I only go thrift stores and tjmaxx and never the mall bc it's overpriced clothing that has bad quality
I only shop at the mall when I know I will use it often and if I like it a lot
loved the video, but why are usa retail shops so expensiveeee literally got the black fur jacket you showed in h and m for half the price 😅😅
Honestly feel the same I love fashion but tell me why target, Burlington and cotton on got some good clothes for a good price 🤷🏽♀️
i’m bout to do a video shopping at those places instead 😭
Love target for new clothes. I wait for the clearance to drop significantly. I know that kinda sounds bad but all is fair in waiting 🤷♀️🤣. Altho if i find some cute wild fable jeans i usually buy at full sale cause they fit so good on my difficult to fit body and they sell out super quick 🙃. I think most of the WF jeans barely make it to clearance. Altho it seems the clearance is getting a bit better more recently and seems target isnt selling as much full price now, keeping inventory for longer (cause obv the inflation people watching their frivolous spends now.....)
We need your full daily makeup routine bestiee 😭
omgg i’ll show y’all soon 😁
miss girl you are so funny!!!! love the editing, love the video, love your personality!
AWE THANK YOU SO MUCH! ❤️❤️
WOA WOA WOA WAIT, so you are telling me that this one aviator jacket costs 149 dollars in the us while it costs 84.25 dollars in spain, THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS
🥲🥲🥲🏃♀️✈️🇪🇸
And in Chile those aviator jackets are like less than 50 bucks...
Omg! What is the item numbers for the Zara coat 🤩
The mall has some cute stuff but the prices are horrible and it's crowded.
pov your sister works in h&m and everything is 25% off for me 😍
LUCKYYY🤩🤩
i, too, HATE the mall
I AINT ALONE 🫡
As a British, I don't thrift, I go to charity stores! Clothes for 50 pence are great!
I went to the mall today after like months, and got ntg. Moral of the story thrifting is so fun and better to find unique pieces. Who’s gonna pay 200 bucks on a jacket not me.
DWAG ILY SO MUCH YOU ARE SO MUCH MORE REALISTIC AND YET STIlL AESTHETIC OMGGG
This was awesome ♥️ thank you
thank YOU 😁❤️
I usually only go to the mall for make up or for like stationary things from minso I think the store is
stumbled across your video and i already know im gonna love your account😁love the vibe here:)
I’m glad that I found your channel, it’s so fun and it’s been long since I laugh while watching youtube. You made my day ❤
AWEE YAY! you deserve laughter! LYY 😚❤️
Thrifting is literally just normal shopping but the prices are extremely small and lower, there are both hit and misses and some of the stuff is ugly and some of the stuff is stylish af
i go to this exact mall almost every weekend! its so expensive
I can't find any thrift stores close to me :(
Ok I live in Queensland in a town so there is not big malls there’s shopping centres which are like malls but smaller and cheaper but big w there were new year specials on and I got a plain shirt for $3 I got 3 of them
our shopping centres are usually open at 9.30 am and are full t.t
Y'all in these comments on about thrifting like the uk has shitty thrift shops like I don't even think we actually have them other than like the charity shop witch sells random old kids books, clothes that ur 70 yr old neighbour called Mary handed in and some random old clothes that someone's mum gave in that are literally falling apart 🫣👍
Yea i know right ?!
I wanna know where this good thrifting exists !!! In larger American cities (where there is more wealth gap and people really need to have access to cheap clothes) goodwill and other thrifts are soooo pricey . I’m in California and the goodwill a few blocks from me doesn’t have a shirt for under $8 even if they’re stained or ripped . I saw a nike pullover sweater I liked… $18 , like huh ? It’s cheaper to go to target or something which is a shame .
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im loving the more frequent uploading 😭💕
HONESTLY ME TOO i love editing 😆❤️
One time I was in a mall and I saw a cute little pusheen plushie and it cost 50$, why is a small plushie that expensive ;_;
You’re my comfort youtuber I’ve been waiting for you to post yay
OMG IM HONORED 😭❤️❤️
Your video cracks me up always 🤣🤣🤣bdw Sara and you looks similar 🙂
we get that all the time!! i just say we’re twins ❤️
@@RebeccaKo 🥰🥰 keep posting 💕💕💕✨️✨️
The mall is like nostalgic at this point😂 I’d hit the food court on the way to Value Village😂😂
THISS 😭😭
Sadly thrift stores or cheaper stores in general aren’t common where I live. I have no choice but to buy clothes from the mall or somewhere else. 😢😢
check out my newest video girll!! i’ve been seeing a lot of comments saying they don’t have thrift stores near them. imma try and make it a series to find the best affordable clothing store.
@@RebeccaKo Ooo ok! I’ll check it out! 😊
I shop online because first it's cheaper and second there's more original clothes than in malls
like i be thinking a hoodie for $18 is expensive at the thrift let alone a 75$ hoodie at the mall no
right 🙄
Hey, what’s the name of the mic? I think the quality it’s good and it looks really practical. Is it?
You can get everything sm cheaper online and can usually find a coupon too. I found a cute scarf irl but it was $40 nah I’ll just buy it online with a coupon 🙄
even tho they don’t properly dispose of clothes, i prefer cheap fast shop (we don’t have thrift stores here)
omg Westfield Annapolis that’s literally my mall😭
I first jacket looks like leons firm resident evil 4 lol
Your mall has a Nando's??? Ok that's worth going to the mall for. I fucking love Nando's. Chicken with the medium peri-peri sauce, fries, and salad. **chef's kiss** So good. And ok what store were those fox sweaters at? 👀 lmao
BRUH I GOTTA TRY THAT. the sweaters were at Macys 👀
@@RebeccaKo OMG yes please eat some Nando's for me. I'm 100 miles from the closest one.
Just got recommended your channel very relatable, I only bought a blouse from a mall once when I was younger and never wore it tbh. Also 8:38 what are these shoes called?
Probably platform uggs mini!
3:24 plssss are those CAD and not US dollars??? i'm in europe where eur kinda equals usd rn and omfgggg jackets are 100 MAX. I got a rlly similar jacket at zara for 90 (still expensive but worth it)
Try Towson mall next time. It might be a bop but they have so many stores inside. Or security mall
oohhh i’ll have to seeeee😁
You are hilarious. ❤
thank you 🥹🫶
wait nandos exsist in america now????
I saw this right after going to the mall lol 😭
The only reason I ever go to malls is when I need pants cause all the retail stores near me have pants that are way too long for my short legs 😭
Right… i found a shirt that my mom likes which all it says is faith and it a v cut shirt with ugly stripes for 25…
u and ur friends r like so funny. this is my first time laughing while watching a vlog 😭
i got on good mood when i saw u posted a video❤️
aweee that’s so sweet TYY🥹🥹🫶
even if I can't spend anything at a mall, Atleast I touched some grass for the day.
this🤟
I actually bought the exact same racing shirt you really liked 😭 it was 50 euros tho
try sm malls they are pretty good
Its the jacket from last video😯
YES IT IS HA❤️❤️❤️
if only in my country there were thrifting shops .. i really want to thrift so bad, it seems really funny😭
People really need to take a break for a second and realise that clothes have gotten considerably cheap over the years. We just buy so much that it gets kinda expensive. 65 dollars for a jacket is super cheap if it were made from good materials, we’ve just been taught that bad quality a,d overconsumptio, is normal
Wasn’t the jacket she pick up 145 bucks.
5:22 I wanted that too but its so expensive lol
what kind of malls do you guys have.😭and 30 dollars for a sweater like that isn’t expensive😊
i’m just used to thrift store prices ig 😭😭
To you
30$ is expensive for a jacket 💀
omg nandos rlly does slap
I shop-lift at the mall. Very easy. Clothes for the free
that alarm both gave me fear and trauma but sadness
Bro LC Waikiki saved my closet 😭
BRO I KNEW IT THIS IS LITERALLY MY MALL 😭 saw dc in ur insta bio i’m dead
AHA ! dc fammm
UR BED LOOKS SO COZY
ITS A STRUGGLE FOR SURE
Good day. Nah dawg. The stagnant sun gave you away. Loved
ur amazon storefront doesn’t load :(
Nando’s is an England classic
why would i spend up to 40 dollars just for a satin dress in zara when i can find a ton of those in thrift stores for 1-2 dollars in where im from lol fast fashion is soooo not worth it anymore
I have the shark plush @8:25 lol
which store was the blue/black racer jacket in? :o
h&m !
OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG yeyeyeyyeye nothing beats the vibe of your vids 💕💕💕💕
AWEEE THANK UUUU!!🥰
@@RebeccaKo omg no thank YOU lol 💕💕💕💕
I discovered Urban Outfitters was too expensive in 2005, welcome!😭😂
Zara is literally in the mall im confused
both of our plushies should get married
I've come to the determination that Urban Outfitters is 🤪
❤
Why? Is it because of Joel Golby if you're 25 or older? He says that all women 25 years old and older are too old to go shopping at the mall. He punished me with weight gain for shopping at the mall when I was 25 years old and talking to my friend who was under the age of 22 years old.
the malls are so expensive! omggg😪😩
FRRR thrifting is 1/10 the price 😭😭
Lmao after looking at the thumbnail ( of you wearing the racing jacket) I had expected you to talk about how clothes don't fit you in the mall, which is the reason you don't shop there...
Thrifting >>>> mall
Paying 150 for a fast fashion jacket is crazy tho
WHAT IM SAYIN!!
Hearing that alarm sound made me so mad for 2.56 seconds
I ❤️ chicken 🐔 backpack 🎒 too holla squad
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@@RebeccaKo do you have telegram? Maybe we can talk sometime
I hate how cheep looking the clothing is at my mall lol
U HAVE MR. PICKLES THE DINASOUR TOO?!?!?!
Idk thrift be getting outrageous like I’m at the mall now too
fr tho..i go to the mall if i want something of higher quality ONLY IF IT’S WORTH THE PRICE some things be expensive but cheaply made😭
If I go to the mall then I only look at the sale section but I prefer to thrift 🙃
me tooooo