"Our closest relatives"? So do you have some nephew locked up in there? How is this different from medical and pharmaceutical research labs? Because you're "nicer"?
@@katyscarlett8823 Bonobos, Chimps and Humans share the same ancestor. Bonobos are matriarchal, and Chimps are patriarchal. That makes a huge difference in their behavior. Chimps are more aggressive and violent. When there is a little tention amongst Bonobos, everything suddenly stops and they all engage in sex for a few minutes. Male male, female female, male female, young old, etc. When they are done, they all have a grin on their faces, and there is no more conflict, or tention. They would be in a demonstration holding signs saying "make love, not war."
She deserves more recognition. Her dedication towards bonobos study is insane, she literally sleeps with them, especially the baby for her research... The work she has done with bonobo kanzi is nothing short of impossible... amazes me why KANZI is not as famous as KOKO, KANZI is way too intelligent than koko.
My guess is bcuz most people haven't even heard of Bonobos. For example if people see an article or a video titled "A talking Gorilla" vs another titled "A Talking Bonobo" The majority would be more curious about "the talking gorilla" since most people know what a gorilla is.
@@nandhanakrishnan.r4279 they are very similar looking but if u get used to what bonobos look like u can tell the difference, bonobos are much less aggressive than chimpanzees as well.
They are so fascinating, however they are also extremely endangered. Most of this is due to poaching and illegal trade. Here’s to hoping that Bonobos can live peacefully in the future.
I have a question. How come some people considered Bonobos the fourth great ape when they are basically just another type of Chimpanzee? There are also different types of Gorillas and Orangutans, but they aren't divided into completely different ape species like how Common Chimpanzees and Bononos are. Here's the two species that fall under the "Pan" genus category: Common chimpanzees (Pan troglodytes) Bonobos (Pan paniscus) Here's the two species that fall under the "Gorilla" genus category: Western gorillas (Gorilla gorilla) Eastern gorillas (Gorillia beringei) Here's the three species that fall under the "Pongo" genus category: Sumatran orangutans (Pongo abelii) Bornean orangutans (Pongo pygmaeus) Tapanuli orangutans (Pongo tapanuliensis) So I think it's pretty stupid when Bonobos get treated as the fourth great ape since they are Chimps.
@@searain1573 they may be a sub species of chimp, but they certainly don’t conduct themselves the way we know conventional chimpanzees do, bonobos behavior is so unusual and unique that they are deserving of denomination from chimps, and they are genetically different from chimps in the general shape of heads and body’s, a female chimp is the same size of a male bonobo, you can google image a side-by-side comparison of the two.
@@davidlean1060 I heard when Donkeys and horses interbreed, their offspring is sterile and can't breed. Is it the same with chimps and bonobos when they interbreed?
Yeah what is sad is unlike other apes, they have never been hostile towards humans, we have always been hostile to them. Some of them were killed just approaching humans curiously.
She's since been removed from this lab, sadly. I'm not sure the details of why exactly, but I've seen videos of her talking about how she was asked to leave. :(
Extreme desperation. Often the type of people who kill endangered animals are deep in poverty, and poaching provides them with a lot of money. Choosing between going hungry, or being homeless and doing something incredibly wrong, most people will do wrong things just so that they can survive.
2:47 "We let the Bonobos decide what they want their meals to be. And it's surprisingly similar to college student food. They just eat Lifesavers, followed by Skittles, then they eat an entire box of Oreos for dinner ...it's shocking how similar we are."
Yeah, cocaine would work in the same way that sugar do in this case. If you would show it a sign of cocaine, and then give it to it, then it would take cocaine all the time! Sugar = pleasure, its obvious that itll always choose those oreos or other shit.
@@Baskl757 I think the laboratories took kanzi and the others off her. Really did her over. It's aweful. Apparantly kanzi knew the lab people had done her over and they weren't genuine so he refused to display all his kills for them so they couldn't really learn anything from him. The labs apprantly accused her of filling the chimps ears about them etc. But just imagine how smart those bonobos were if that was true.
No offense but hope for what exactly? I could understand if this was planet of the apes but what hope is this doctor bringing us? Monkeys that can point at stuff and perform an 8 month old human baby's abilities?
@@Joshua-ev9uw she want to create cluster family of bonobo that can communicate to us. Learning language become easier if more bonobo participate as the language become common in bonobo community. From 1 thousand vocabularies it can increase to 10 thousands vocabularies.
I love Dr. Sue been watching her videos with Konzi and other scientists. She's hard working, seriously patient with her babies, driven and motherly to them. She is fascinating and incredible!
well we have to study them and it's not like we could give them the keys to a residence and tell them “don't get crazy with the mini-bar, remember we have a meeting tomorrow”
I would have like to see more of a discussion of the ethics of this. There are many stories of researchers trying to make other species (especially primates) into human beings. And the end result is usually confusion, frustration and pain. Is Tiko's lack of clinging reflex genetic, or something inspired by the artificial upbringing? What will be the endgame for a bonobo that can be neither fully bonobo nor fully human?
We should protect them. Maybe even interact with them but not experiment and mold them into something like us.. Humans are like the worst species on earth cause we always wanna mess with and change the natural order of things. We are the destroyers of life
These people are not studying bonobos in essence, they're just studying how bonobos adapt to human being enviroment. It gives me chills. No plants, no trees, no own space.
To see them in cages, and as what some would consider a scientific experiment, makes me sad. If they are one of our closest living relatives, they are rare and only found in the wild in the Congo where there are jungles and trees, why do they spend most of their day in a concrete and bared cage? They are living entities and should be treated and respected as such. Yes, they are cared for and loved. But that environment looks nothing like their natural habitat.
My heart beats with such a tremendous amount of affection & love for Nature & *ALL* animals, but I've had a special, lifelong, profound interest in ALL Great Apes...
It's obvious these people love these animals - and the love appears to be reciprocal - so this seems to be a very misguided empathic response. There are enough bad things going on in the world to feel pain over, no need to start inventing new ones.
Important...?! Poor Lady,she wasted her life trying to understand at first but later to proof that those bonobos beasts are human equal. She proof nothing. Yes ,Kenzi bonobo is smart,maybe even smartest of his kind,but...so what? He mastered this lexigrams things like well broken in dog. Everything what he has done is food motivated,so he became almost morbidly obese,but did this Lady brake into his mind? No,Kenzi is nothing more than animal,smart but certainly not human as she desperately wants to see him as substitution of own child.
Arthur Konarski but maybe if bonobos spend more time with humans, do all these exercises and eat human food, they’ll gain more intelligence, who knows. Maybe we can make a hybrid of human and bonobo that is intelligent enough. And that would really show that intelligence is not locked on humans only.
I'm happy to see Kanzi and Dr. Sue again, and their new member, Tiko, after watching a special short TV program featuring them broadcasted in 90's in JP.
@RomeoPapaCharlie why not employ 20 keepers who wipe their fluffy behinds 24/7? look, i think animals are conscious beings and should not suffer unnecessarily, apes most of all. if they have to be kept, it should cause the last possible distress. but they have other needs besides trees and a view. and they exist in circumstances where there are limited resources and people have to make compromises.
These animals are intelligent and highly social - I’m wondering what right we, as human animals, have to remove these babies from their family group and keep these animals in a world they can never really be a part of. Observe in nature - ethologists do this effectively.
You could imprint a whole bunch onto almost any species with the right dedication and approach. We could learn a lot by actually communicating much more fluently with other species. The lexigrams approach is pretty good. I think they could recognize words by sight though. Although we could learn Mandarin and use existing natural language glyphs to code the words for better communication maybe. If we utilize AI to decipher their vocalizations, we might be able to understand those alongside a lexigram approach. Perform this with every species capable. Cats, dogs, foxes, minks, cetaceans, birds. And then formalize an actual curriculum for educating them as much as possible. Mostly just vocabulary, but also concepts like clouds are made of water, ice is really cold water. Teach them humans are smart animals, but so are their kind. Teach them different animals and their concept of human. Try to work on other concepts that might be understandable. Counting, simple math. Teach them about the concept of time and days, hours, minutes, seconds. Teach them concepts about newborns of any species growing into children into adults and maturity. Teach them concepts about friendship, family, familial relationships. Teach them concepts about danger, safety, hurt/harm, healing. Teach them about light and dark, flashlights, artificial lighting on/off. Teach them about sound and pitch, tone, rhythm. Teach them about their body parts like legs, arms, hands, eyes, face, hair, or for dolphins things like fins. Teach them about seeds growing into plants/trees, growing into fruits. (Very basic conceptual approach.)
You're asking a lot,easier said than done. There were experiments with dolphins & sentient creatures done by US military/DARPA in the latter half of 20th century,all below board & likely being applied & weaponized only recently (sonar). Real question is if it should be done. The implications of doing this could do more harm,they've evolved to where they are now because they developed the adaptive skills required. It'd be tantamount to messing with nature.
If they were really capable of learning to read words by sight, don't you think they would have developed their own written language by now, as the species has been around for at least as long as we have? Bonobos like chimps are amazing and beautiful animals, totally deserving of our respect and protection, but they are still extremely different from us in many ways. Learning to recognize lexigrams, pictures and symbols, is one thing; both species have excellent visual-spatial memories which serves them well in the wild. But their brains don't have the capability of understanding abstractions to anywhere near the extent human brains do. The difference in size and complexity between human and bonobo brains is significant. We shouldn't be too preoccupied with trying to make them be "more like us". Let them be what they are, and let their babies be raised by their own mothers whenever possible.
Like you said, lets treat them as humans. I’ve always thought that animals like chimps and things should be seen as people, simply because how smart they are. They should have the right to speak and live as they do, they should be given land and the task of taking care of it. They’re people man. Only difference is we’re a bit smarter
Humans started adapting to the ground. We lost almost all our hair because it was hot in open land. We developed narrow feet as a way to adapt to running and swimming. Adapting to the ground then helped us invent shelter. Millions of years later, here we are with buildings and mobile vehicles
Why are these precious beings in prison, is this what we do to our closest living relatives lock them up and study them? I know that their life would be harder in the wild and they wouldn't have access to sweets but they would be free!
Many spectators think that researchers are somewhat trying to change cousins of our species to us humans, but that's not true. They are researching the cognitive development of our nearest relative species regarding to us and how it came to be and what the factor of our way of cognitive skills actually work. Imagine finding that out and using it to make AI a self thinking apparatus.
Lol 98 % like YOU! Yea believe in any bullshit spread by people claiming to be scientists. How can a creature so different in appearance & etc be 98 % like us in its dna. Its absolutely false! I will never believe that! They r no way close like human. This a propaganda to firm their theory of evolution
@@booliam06 LOL..OPEN UR MIND!! This is what science says "House cats and tigers share 95.6 percent of DNA, study reveals. Yet they are not much difference other than the size. But ur saying a chimpanzee & we share 99% then howcome so much differences. Cat & a Tiger luks & attidute r alike almost everything apart from the size difference. You can't say Chimpanzee is more like human being than cat is more like the tiger.
cheifquief Because they're animals and we're human. These crazy people do and say anything to deny God, the creator of all things. This is why humans have dominion over every living thing on earth, no matter how strong and powerful they are, because we have a soul that dwells in us that is superior to animals, fact.
Wow. So easy when you put things like "animals vs human", "crazy people vs God", "soul", "superior"... But things are not that simple. This is only a narrative of you and your people. If one day by chance you happen to undress your view from prejudice and these metaphysical trinkets you may notice we're all animals, and this can be beautiful and magic too.
Gustavo Soares You have it backwards. It's not easy to say man came from God, which is why many people, including you, don't believe it. What's easy is saying that we came from a monkey, that is extremely easy and not complicated, whereas saying we came from God can be complicated if you don't have enough wisdom to understand. All creation is similar but that does not equal relativity. We did not come from monkeys, monkeys are animals, we are human - but we are all flesh, we all have red blood, even flies have red blood, talk about similarity. But none the less we are not related to each other, we are all our own created creature, of a different type of flesh, formed by God. And this is not magic, it's miraculous, fact.
Well, you're seeing that I'm in the backwards way of thinking, cannot disagree with you on this. We're only humans and this is a conflict of perspective. To turn the other way around is really difficult. I was born in the church, son of the pastor. I can tell you it demands a lot of evidence, abnegation of inflated ego and confrontation of some millenarian beliefs (not all of them). But once you look over the facts, it will get more and more evident: we're animals. And this is not a denial of God. Do you think Earth is round, and orbitates around the Sun? To think of that in past times was an heresy, a total denial of God, and today it's more a denial of a self-evident truth. It took humankind years, centuries of observation, to understand that, but here we are. And so it also took the observation to understand adaptation of species, mutation, and human animality, it is not an easy and simple thing as you put it on. If it was easy, everyone would be accepting that as a self-evident truth. Can you imagine people's resistance when it first surfaced? If you truly believe in God and this world as His creation, then you must accept God's work as it is, not as you wished it to be. To study the world is to understand the secrets and details of creation. The world is a complex and very puzzling thing, far beyond the simplicity you claim. Is your God complex? So is the Creation. I will not list the evidence accumulated over the years because this comment would be too long, but I dare you to search on Google "15 evolutionary gems" and read it all. It is a simplification of something much more complicated, more like a guide for beginners. If you believe in a true amazing God, you'll be amazed. If your God is simple and restrictive, you'll be shocked. But "you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free". (I apologize for any mistake, english is my 3rd language and I don't usually write in it.)
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This scientist is very wise. Very good question she raises up. Wow!
Hmm...interesting thought. I'd be really interested in a future study that compared the length of time it took to learn sign language in comparison to the system of icons. (I can see it potentially being easier for the average non-ASL person to study them with this method. Then again, it wouldn't take the humans horribly long to learn a few hundred signs, and it would definitely expand their mental ability and helpfulness outside of the scientific realm, as well as enhancing their scientific studies, if it was determined that sign language was more useful. I don't see this study ever happening, though. ha.)
Apes dont understand the content of language! Theyre using it to get what they want (always food, mayby various kinds of it) by learning schemes. If they see, that a combination of signs, gestures can bring em food, they remember it and repeat every single time they meet human. Its that simple! There are many studies covering teaching apes sign language and using it. It always ends in the way i described...
Travis Terrell it would take a large group of apes to really have any conclusive results as just like us some are smarter than others and some are more willing also it wpuld take many apes and many years
Bonobos are intellectually inferior to humans by a giant margin. Their brians are much smaller than those of humans. As a consequence, they can't learn the grammar of any sign language. Sure, maybe they can memorize a few hundred signs and create very simple sentences. But they are not intelligent enough to learn the full grammar of a sign language.
ZLY WEISIOR Have you seen footage of Koko the gorilla? The majority of what she signs has nothing to do with food, and she was no longer given food rewards for signing after her first few years of learning. Yet, she lived into her 40s and continued to sign daily. She communicates reactions, emotions, empathy, relays personal memories, and even novel ideas - in multiple instances, creating new signs to describe things she had no sign for (e.g. she did not know the sign for "ring", and so to refer to it later she individually came up with "finger + bracelet" - think about how advanced that is!) She also frequently signed to herself with no human influencing (there's footage of this in one of the early docs) and taught signs to other gorillas, then communicated to them using them. She even used meta-language, reflexively using language to describe language - when another gorilla signed succesfully, she signed "good sign" to him.
Man (Human) became different from Ape when the Mother (Earth) and the Father (Sun) wanted to come inside and enjoy each other's company in a more personable way.
Except that their environment is being destroyed and most animals in zoos and research facilities are there because they were rescued from poachers or logging.
I mean, it looks like the bonobos are quite happy and healthy. Not to mention that they are surely experiencing a much decreased risk of sudden and violent death than in their native environment.
They have since been rehoused elsewhere away from this woman. Nobody can deny the research began with good intentions, but as time went on, Sue became more and more unhinged. You can even see it in part in this video, why is she porting Teco around in a stroller? It's a load of BS he was born with no inclination to cling, she's making that situation worse by refusing to carry him around with something to cling to, and instead putting him in a stroller. She also claims at one point that Kanzi is 'saying' Teco. He might well be calling to him, but he's not saying words. She's been rumoured to believe that the bonobos were speaking actual english to her at one time. Then we have the neglect of proper diet. Kanzi was incredibly overweight, dangerously so for a bonobo. There are good organizations out there working tirelessly to help bonobos in the wild, you're best off supporting them, such as Lola Ya Bonobo.
Absolutely, what the scientists should do is to learn from these cute and unique creatures, but not treat or teach them like humans, 'cause they're not!
It was difficult to tell whether or not Koko understood what she was saying or if she was just memorizing answers to questions she'd been signed before, or gyessing the answers by mimicking the questioners question, like how a dog sits when told to, but does not therefore understand English. Kanzi is capable of using his lexigram keyboard to respond immediately to "complex" audial prompts which consisted of words he knew (e.g put the pine cones in the refrigerator) but which he had never heard before.
Surely got to be worth trying sign language. Especially as this little one is of a different species, and (as stated in the video) has “freed-up” hands (due to reduced clinging reflex). In any case, all the videos I’ve seen of Koko (gorilla) convey to me that she often very much initiated dialogue. Even dogs can understand more than commands (expanded later) and initiate (limited) “conversations”. Many animals do use their own sign language - it’s just that most people don’t notice or allow for that possibility. My GF’s poodle has generalised “I want to eat” (conscious open-mouth) into “I want” and very much reacts to informational words (more than commands actually!). For example if I suggest a place to visit she will say she wants that. Probably followed by “coughing” - which is instinctive dog-talk for “let’s all go off together” (as in dog-pack hunting). If she wants to eat and we don’t guess that correctly then she pretend-swallows also. So she blends instinctive language with learned or even invented language. But only if she has to - her preference is always for us to do the work and guess correctly. Dogs lack the mimicry instinct of apes. They don’t “ape”! Poodles can learn vocabularies of 300+ words, surprisingly. Also they have “grammar processing” elements in their brains, but unlike us it is fed by all senses, not just voice and instinctive nonverbals. Most animals communicate by eyes - it can be very subtle. People tend to just “barge in” and treat animals like possessions or even toys. The richer path begins with respect.
Koko probably understood the sign language, but i don't buy those bonobos actually understand those lexigrams, i mean, come on, they aren't even paying attention, they just point them out randomly an get free food.
I wish this could be at least 30-minute special... the whole thing she's doing (& has done) is absolutely fascinating!
Watch kanzi bonobo genius ape part 1 through 4...its amazing..its on youtube
There's a 1 hour+ special on youtube.
@@theftking where?
"Our closest relatives"?
So do you have some nephew locked up in there? How is this different from medical and pharmaceutical research labs? Because you're "nicer"?
@@katyscarlett8823 Bonobos, Chimps and Humans share the same ancestor. Bonobos are matriarchal, and Chimps are patriarchal. That makes a huge difference in their behavior. Chimps are more aggressive and violent. When there is a little tention amongst Bonobos, everything suddenly stops and they all engage in sex for a few minutes. Male male, female female, male female, young old, etc. When they are done, they all have a grin on their faces, and there is no more conflict, or tention. They would be in a demonstration holding signs saying "make love, not war."
She deserves more recognition. Her dedication towards bonobos study is insane, she literally sleeps with them, especially the baby for her research...
The work she has done with bonobo kanzi is nothing short of impossible...
amazes me why KANZI is not as famous as KOKO,
KANZI is way too intelligent than koko.
My guess is bcuz most people haven't even heard of Bonobos. For example if people see an article or a video titled "A talking Gorilla" vs another titled "A Talking Bonobo" The majority would be more curious about "the talking gorilla" since most people know what a gorilla is.
@@Saxxi.4 I actually thought it is a chimpanzee. I dont know the difference between chimpanzee and bonobos. They look the same.
My understanding is that Kanzi's sister Panbanisha is even more clever than him.
@@nandhanakrishnan.r4279 they are very similar looking but if u get used to what bonobos look like u can tell the difference, bonobos are much less aggressive than chimpanzees as well.
@@liam3104Thanks. Also is'nt their face a little different?
0:37 imagine walking into your living room at night and seeing that scuttle across the floor
😭
It's Cute ❤
BABY :D
@@shelledreptile5626 let's say if you didn't know what it was lol
@@DramaticalDawg
Then, maybe a heart attack
They are so fascinating, however they are also extremely endangered. Most of this is due to poaching and illegal trade. Here’s to hoping that Bonobos can live peacefully in the future.
I have a question. How come some people considered Bonobos the fourth great ape when they are basically just another type of Chimpanzee? There are also different types of Gorillas and Orangutans, but they aren't divided into completely different ape species like how Common Chimpanzees and Bononos are.
Here's the two species that fall under the "Pan" genus category:
Common chimpanzees (Pan troglodytes)
Bonobos (Pan paniscus)
Here's the two species that fall under the "Gorilla" genus category:
Western gorillas (Gorilla gorilla)
Eastern gorillas (Gorillia beringei)
Here's the three species that fall under the "Pongo" genus category:
Sumatran orangutans (Pongo abelii)
Bornean orangutans (Pongo pygmaeus)
Tapanuli orangutans (Pongo tapanuliensis)
So I think it's pretty stupid when Bonobos get treated as the fourth great ape since they are Chimps.
@@searain1573 because Bonobos are kinder than Chimp they have different culture than Chimp but look alike
@@searain1573 they may be a sub species of chimp, but they certainly don’t conduct themselves the way we know conventional chimpanzees do, bonobos behavior is so unusual and unique that they are deserving of denomination from chimps, and they are genetically different from chimps in the general shape of heads and body’s, a female chimp is the same size of a male bonobo, you can google image a side-by-side comparison of the two.
@@davidlean1060 I heard when Donkeys and horses interbreed, their offspring is sterile and can't breed. Is it the same with chimps and bonobos when they interbreed?
Yeah what is sad is unlike other apes, they have never been hostile towards humans, we have always been hostile to them. Some of them were killed just approaching humans curiously.
What a beautiful animal. The intelligence in his eyes.
Dude can she keep updating us with her progress??? This is fascinating
She's since been removed from this lab, sadly. I'm not sure the details of why exactly, but I've seen videos of her talking about how she was asked to leave. :(
How could someone kill these animals. They are like humans but not so evil.
Extreme desperation. Often the type of people who kill endangered animals are deep in poverty, and poaching provides them with a lot of money. Choosing between going hungry, or being homeless and doing something incredibly wrong, most people will do wrong things just so that they can survive.
Humans are not naturally evil, they do evil things out of necessity, or because they were taught to do so by parents, or other authority figures.
we are like evils, but not human
@jo gr Yeah, however OP was reffering to Bonobos which are not as aggressive as chimpanzees and humans.
@@beetard5384 Hitler?
2:47 "We let the Bonobos decide what they want their meals to be. And it's surprisingly similar to college student food. They just eat Lifesavers, followed by Skittles, then they eat an entire box of Oreos for dinner ...it's shocking how similar we are."
no surprise, we are kind of cousins after all ;)
Yeah, cocaine would work in the same way that sugar do in this case. If you would show it a sign of cocaine, and then give it to it, then it would take cocaine all the time! Sugar = pleasure, its obvious that itll always choose those oreos or other shit.
And binge drink until they pass out?
do they go ham with that new chief keef banger
@@gama9980 .....LMAO!!
What a precious woman, she gives me some hope. ✌️♥️
Should see what she did with kanzi back in the 90s. Shes been working with these bonobos for at least 30 years now
cool name bruh fr epic awesome yeah excellent yeah the name its good kinda yeah its and-
@@Baskl757 I think the laboratories took kanzi and the others off her. Really did her over. It's aweful.
Apparantly kanzi knew the lab people had done her over and they weren't genuine so he refused to display all his kills for them so they couldn't really learn anything from him.
The labs apprantly accused her of filling the chimps ears about them etc. But just imagine how smart those bonobos were if that was true.
No offense but hope for what exactly? I could understand if this was planet of the apes but what hope is this doctor bringing us? Monkeys that can point at stuff and perform an 8 month old human baby's abilities?
@@Joshua-ev9uw she want to create cluster family of bonobo that can communicate to us. Learning language become easier if more bonobo participate as the language become common in bonobo community. From 1 thousand vocabularies it can increase to 10 thousands vocabularies.
I love Dr. Sue been watching her videos with Konzi and other scientists. She's hard working, seriously patient with her babies, driven and motherly to them. She is fascinating and incredible!
They are not her babies.
Ugh!! She is simply amazing!! I want to do what she does. Love watching them💓
0:37 me scuddling to the fridge at 3 AM
Yes i can relate
Yeah. Why is it always 3 AM? Everyone I know who gets late snacks, it's always from 2:30am to 3:30am. I do the same.
They’re our closest living relatives - so let’s not keep them in cages
Po we keep other humans in cages
Robert House yes when they have willingly broken a rule society has deemed wrong, they have done nothing except exist
If they're endangered that might not be the best call. I understand where you're coming from, though.
well we have to study them and it's not like we could give them the keys to a residence and tell them “don't get crazy with the mini-bar, remember we have a meeting tomorrow”
also, remember we sometimes put babies and mentally ill persons in cages because we can’t expect them to behave well in society
Bonobos are in my opinion, much more tolerant and patient than other ape subspecies.
They are a species with no subspecies.
their vocals sound so much like ours woah, the almost whistle like reminds me our “native” noises that we would use to express ourselves without words
well it isn´t because we never evolved from them or chimps, but yea it is similar
Oh my god. They remind me of my daughter as a toddler.
I would have like to see more of a discussion of the ethics of this. There are many stories of researchers trying to make other species (especially primates) into human beings. And the end result is usually confusion, frustration and pain. Is Tiko's lack of clinging reflex genetic, or something inspired by the artificial upbringing? What will be the endgame for a bonobo that can be neither fully bonobo nor fully human?
We should protect them. Maybe even interact with them but not experiment and mold them into something like us.. Humans are like the worst species on earth cause we always wanna mess with and change the natural order of things. We are the destroyers of life
Uh. Kinda like the first fish who came into land.
These people are not studying bonobos in essence, they're just studying how bonobos adapt to human being enviroment. It gives me chills. No plants, no trees, no own space.
No animal is as arrogant as the human.
@@hen1100 There is nothing arrogant about being measurably superior. No animal can split an atom or land on the moon, but humans can.
Very, very worthwhile research, especially if we humans can indeed learn to treat one another better.
Amazing research and dedication of Dr. Sue Savage-Rumbaugh !! A big salute to her...!
To see them in cages, and as what some would consider a scientific experiment, makes me sad. If they are one of our closest living relatives, they are rare and only found in the wild in the Congo where there are jungles and trees, why do they spend most of their day in a concrete and bared cage?
They are living entities and should be treated and respected as such. Yes, they are cared for and loved. But that environment looks nothing like their natural habitat.
You' re right! 😢
Because in the wild theyre more likely to be territorial and become violent
@@vihurah9554 set them free then...
@@visitacionbihotzmaitasuna5340 and then you cant study them like this.
@@vihurah9554 Bonobos aren't violent
My heart beats with such a tremendous amount of affection & love for Nature & *ALL* animals, but I've had a special, lifelong, profound interest in ALL Great Apes...
Tiko and that robot dog are gonna compete for word domination some day
This is a great reminder to be nice , kind and compassionate to all animals
Beautiful , just beautiful
Are u sane? I guess not.
*Jim Carrey joined the chat
Bonobos are very expressive, theyre so precious❤
I understand the purpose of studying them, but still, this was painful to watch. These cages are too small for such large animals.
I do hope they get out a lot. They are incredibly endangered as well
Those aren’t their living quarters
Dude, imagine how many secret animal experiments are going on right now, all over the planet, so we can have improved medicine.
they probably have a bigger enclosure, the small cages are for the research purposes
It's obvious these people love these animals - and the love appears to be reciprocal - so this seems to be a very misguided empathic response.
There are enough bad things going on in the world to feel pain over, no need to start inventing new ones.
This is very important work. I often thought what would we be like without all of our civilization.
Important...?! Poor Lady,she wasted her life trying to understand at first but later to proof that those bonobos beasts are human equal. She proof nothing. Yes ,Kenzi bonobo is smart,maybe even smartest of his kind,but...so what? He mastered this lexigrams things like well broken in dog. Everything what he has done is food motivated,so he became almost morbidly obese,but did this Lady brake into his mind? No,Kenzi is nothing more than animal,smart but certainly not human as she desperately wants to see him as substitution of own child.
Arthur Konarski but maybe if bonobos spend more time with humans, do all these exercises and eat human food, they’ll gain more intelligence, who knows. Maybe we can make a hybrid of human and bonobo that is intelligent enough. And that would really show that intelligence is not locked on humans only.
@@arthurkonarski8501 calm down!!! Your ego is triggered or what!!!
I'm happy to see Kanzi and Dr. Sue again, and their new member, Tiko, after watching a special short TV program featuring them broadcasted in 90's in JP.
they melt my heart, I wish there was more time on a youtube video to observe and watch the interaction
She had such a angelic love for them and they had an angelic love for her too. Just wow...what love.
Too bad their "humanized" habitat resembles a jail block
Better than being kept in cages honestly
I think it's a legal requirement
you go ahead and vacuum their poo out of the carpet every night then
@RomeoPapaCharlie why not employ 20 keepers who wipe their fluffy behinds 24/7? look, i think animals are conscious beings and should not suffer unnecessarily, apes most of all. if they have to be kept, it should cause the last possible distress. but they have other needs besides trees and a view. and they exist in circumstances where there are limited resources and people have to make compromises.
@@CatatonicImperfect They can use the toilet
I don't know why am I watching this @ 3 am in morning
She sounds like one of the smartest scientists on her studies approach.
“Peaceful, Loving, Caring orientation towards each other. That is within our grasp to do.” Thank you ✌️😊💛
I love this woman she has her own youtube channel aswell
Excellent! Thank you Sue Savage-Rumbaugh.
this should have more views
This lady is very calm and worsks very well with the Bonobos. Very inspirational.
❤️ The bonobos is so clever and smart. I love them. ❤️
What an extremely heart-warming video!!
I wonder how kanzi and tiko are in 2019
We're all living in 2020 while this man's living in 2019
@@tanman2000 LMFAO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
J.T. Dennis man I’m curious too 😭
Ever since I discovered hungry4words on insta I've been obsessed with animals communicating
Dead yo! They were testing that new shampoo on them and it burnt them to a crisp
Awww I love all the ape babies. They are so human like in many ways.
What a woman.. those beautiful eyes that look into an even prettier soul
Absolutely love this woman
She’s like Tiko’s grandma💕
These animals are intelligent and highly social - I’m wondering what right we, as human animals, have to remove these babies from their family group and keep these animals in a world they can never really be a part of. Observe in nature - ethologists do this effectively.
This is the beginning of the planet of the apes
Great work nice lady.
You could imprint a whole bunch onto almost any species with the right dedication and approach.
We could learn a lot by actually communicating much more fluently with other species.
The lexigrams approach is pretty good. I think they could recognize words by sight though.
Although we could learn Mandarin and use existing natural language glyphs to code the words for better communication maybe.
If we utilize AI to decipher their vocalizations, we might be able to understand those alongside a lexigram approach.
Perform this with every species capable. Cats, dogs, foxes, minks, cetaceans, birds.
And then formalize an actual curriculum for educating them as much as possible.
Mostly just vocabulary, but also concepts like clouds are made of water, ice is really cold water.
Teach them humans are smart animals, but so are their kind. Teach them different animals and their concept of human.
Try to work on other concepts that might be understandable. Counting, simple math.
Teach them about the concept of time and days, hours, minutes, seconds.
Teach them concepts about newborns of any species growing into children into adults and maturity.
Teach them concepts about friendship, family, familial relationships.
Teach them concepts about danger, safety, hurt/harm, healing.
Teach them about light and dark, flashlights, artificial lighting on/off.
Teach them about sound and pitch, tone, rhythm.
Teach them about their body parts like legs, arms, hands, eyes, face, hair, or for dolphins things like fins.
Teach them about seeds growing into plants/trees, growing into fruits. (Very basic conceptual approach.)
You're asking a lot,easier said than done. There were experiments with dolphins & sentient creatures done by US military/DARPA in the latter half of 20th century,all below board & likely being applied & weaponized only recently (sonar). Real question is if it should be done. The implications of doing this could do more harm,they've evolved to where they are now because they developed the adaptive skills required. It'd be tantamount to messing with nature.
If they were really capable of learning to read words by sight, don't you think they would have developed their own written language by now, as the species has been around for at least as long as we have? Bonobos like chimps are amazing and beautiful animals, totally deserving of our respect and protection, but they are still extremely different from us in many ways. Learning to recognize lexigrams, pictures and symbols, is one thing; both species have excellent visual-spatial memories which serves them well in the wild. But their brains don't have the capability of understanding abstractions to anywhere near the extent human brains do. The difference in size and complexity between human and bonobo brains is significant. We shouldn't be too preoccupied with trying to make them be "more like us". Let them be what they are, and let their babies be raised by their own mothers whenever possible.
Fascinating! Thank you-for doing this work?
Kanzi !!! My boi !!! Haha miss that dude. Their little squeaks are great. Love hearing em hahah
Fascinating woman and I admire her studies.
Were related to these creatures so let's treat them good
Like you said, lets treat them as humans. I’ve always thought that animals like chimps and things should be seen as people, simply because how smart they are. They should have the right to speak and live as they do, they should be given land and the task of taking care of it.
They’re people man. Only difference is we’re a bit smarter
I love this Scientist.
So precious ❤️💕💕❤️💕💕❤️💕💕
Humans started adapting to the ground. We lost almost all our hair because it was hot in open land. We developed narrow feet as a way to adapt to running and swimming. Adapting to the ground then helped us invent shelter. Millions of years later, here we are with buildings and mobile vehicles
Evolución
Why are these precious beings in prison, is this what we do to our closest living relatives lock them up and study them? I know that their life would be harder in the wild and they wouldn't have access to sweets but they would be free!
Many spectators think that researchers are somewhat trying to change cousins of our species to us humans, but that's not true. They are researching the cognitive development of our nearest relative species regarding to us and how it came to be and what the factor of our way of cognitive skills actually work. Imagine finding that out and using it to make AI a self thinking apparatus.
Thanks to those, trying to open the doors
And our Understanding between Us.
bonobos are like hippies, free love, peace, and long hair!
98% like us Humun, we must never forget this👏❤️
Lol 98 % like YOU! Yea believe in any bullshit spread by people claiming to be scientists. How can a creature so different in appearance & etc be 98 % like us in its dna. Its absolutely false! I will never believe that! They r no way close like human.
This a propaganda to firm their theory of evolution
@@booliam06 LOL..OPEN UR MIND!!
This is what science says "House cats and tigers share 95.6 percent of DNA, study reveals. Yet they are not much difference other than the size. But ur saying a chimpanzee & we share 99% then howcome so much differences. Cat & a Tiger luks & attidute r alike almost everything apart from the size difference. You can't say Chimpanzee is more like human being than cat is more like the tiger.
@@abdullahabraham4483 yeah you only believe in myth which are described in book (quren)
Fantastic Video!! 👍
I love how wholesome this is, but I can't be the only one thinking she sounds like a female Herbert.
I love this woman
If they're just like us then why lock them in cages?
cause we're all locked in cages, that's the truth
cheifquief Because they're animals and we're human. These crazy people do and say anything to deny God, the creator of all things. This is why humans have dominion over every living thing on earth, no matter how strong and powerful they are, because we have a soul that dwells in us that is superior to animals, fact.
Wow. So easy when you put things like "animals vs human", "crazy people vs God", "soul", "superior"... But things are not that simple. This is only a narrative of you and your people. If one day by chance you happen to undress your view from prejudice and these metaphysical trinkets you may notice we're all animals, and this can be beautiful and magic too.
Gustavo Soares You have it backwards. It's not easy to say man came from God, which is why many people, including you, don't believe it. What's easy is saying that we came from a monkey, that is extremely easy and not complicated, whereas saying we came from God can be complicated if you don't have enough wisdom to understand. All creation is similar but that does not equal relativity. We did not come from monkeys, monkeys are animals, we are human - but we are all flesh, we all have red blood, even flies have red blood, talk about similarity. But none the less we are not related to each other, we are all our own created creature, of a different type of flesh, formed by God. And this is not magic, it's miraculous, fact.
Well, you're seeing that I'm in the backwards way of thinking, cannot disagree with you on this. We're only humans and this is a conflict of perspective. To turn the other way around is really difficult. I was born in the church, son of the pastor. I can tell you it demands a lot of evidence, abnegation of inflated ego and confrontation of some millenarian beliefs (not all of them). But once you look over the facts, it will get more and more evident: we're animals. And this is not a denial of God. Do you think Earth is round, and orbitates around the Sun? To think of that in past times was an heresy, a total denial of God, and today it's more a denial of a self-evident truth. It took humankind years, centuries of observation, to understand that, but here we are. And so it also took the observation to understand adaptation of species, mutation, and human animality, it is not an easy and simple thing as you put it on. If it was easy, everyone would be accepting that as a self-evident truth. Can you imagine people's resistance when it first surfaced? If you truly believe in God and this world as His creation, then you must accept God's work as it is, not as you wished it to be. To study the world is to understand the secrets and details of creation. The world is a complex and very puzzling thing, far beyond the simplicity you claim. Is your God complex? So is the Creation. I will not list the evidence accumulated over the years because this comment would be too long, but I dare you to search on Google "15 evolutionary gems" and read it all. It is a simplification of something much more complicated, more like a guide for beginners. If you believe in a true amazing God, you'll be amazed. If your God is simple and restrictive, you'll be shocked. But "you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free".
(I apologize for any mistake, english is my 3rd language and I don't usually write in it.)
This scientist is very wise.
Very good question she raises up. Wow!
I would like to have some bonobo friends... 🙂, Love them.
A song to my heart,knowing that the parents are with this babie and they are involved and the researchers.Lessons being learned,good...
I love Kanzi so much
Bonobos are so fucking chill I wish I could see one
What I would give to spend an hour with that baby Bonobo. Just awesome
All you have to do is kill my enemy
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昔にドキュメンタリーで見たカンジと博士にまた会えて嬉しい
@ 2:44 I thought she said she can't make high pitched noises 😂😂😂
THANK YOU FOR SHARING THIS IT IS VERY INTERESTING !
sign language would probably been easier than searching 400+ pictures to find just one seems like more work, The gorilla Koko does good
Hmm...interesting thought. I'd be really interested in a future study that compared the length of time it took to learn sign language in comparison to the system of icons. (I can see it potentially being easier for the average non-ASL person to study them with this method. Then again, it wouldn't take the humans horribly long to learn a few hundred signs, and it would definitely expand their mental ability and helpfulness outside of the scientific realm, as well as enhancing their scientific studies, if it was determined that sign language was more useful. I don't see this study ever happening, though. ha.)
Apes dont understand the content of language! Theyre using it to get what they want (always food, mayby various kinds of it) by learning schemes. If they see, that a combination of signs, gestures can bring em food, they remember it and repeat every single time they meet human. Its that simple! There are many studies covering teaching apes sign language and using it. It always ends in the way i described...
Travis Terrell it would take a large group of apes to really have any conclusive results as just like us some are smarter than others and some are more willing also it wpuld take many apes and many years
Bonobos are intellectually inferior to humans by a giant margin. Their brians are much smaller than those of humans. As a consequence, they can't learn the grammar of any sign language. Sure, maybe they can memorize a few hundred signs and create very simple sentences. But they are not intelligent enough to learn the full grammar of a sign language.
ZLY WEISIOR Have you seen footage of Koko the gorilla? The majority of what she signs has nothing to do with food, and she was no longer given food rewards for signing after her first few years of learning. Yet, she lived into her 40s and continued to sign daily. She communicates reactions, emotions, empathy, relays personal memories, and even novel ideas - in multiple instances, creating new signs to describe things she had no sign for (e.g. she did not know the sign for "ring", and so to refer to it later she individually came up with "finger + bracelet" - think about how advanced that is!)
She also frequently signed to herself with no human influencing (there's footage of this in one of the early docs) and taught signs to other gorillas, then communicated to them using them. She even used meta-language, reflexively using language to describe language - when another gorilla signed succesfully, she signed "good sign" to him.
Man (Human) became different from Ape when the Mother (Earth) and the Father (Sun) wanted to come inside and enjoy each other's company in a more personable way.
Bonobos aren’t “one of our closest relatives”. They ARE the closest to us.
Bonobos dont wage war on other bonobos, chimps do tho
Chimps and bonobos are about the same close from us
Bonobos are magnificent creatures.
Where is this, i would love to go there an meet them!
She is amazing
Why do you keep them in tiny indoor cages? Why aren’t they outside in a huge play & curiosity fulfilling environment?
These are wonderful creatures
Awww so cute
Fascinating. Very interesting, short documentary. As one commentator writes: it could be at least a 30min special...
When i read the comments, i realise Tico is more clever than most of the commentators
She is an amazing woman
no cages pls, thank you.
The government should support these programs and gives them a land to make an actual living habitat for them.
"hOw DoEs ThIs BeNeFiT mE"
They should be studied in their own environment with their own kind, not housed in lousy research facilities.
Except that their environment is being destroyed and most animals in zoos and research facilities are there because they were rescued from poachers or logging.
I mean, it looks like the bonobos are quite happy and healthy. Not to mention that they are surely experiencing a much decreased risk of sudden and violent death than in their native environment.
They have since been rehoused elsewhere away from this woman. Nobody can deny the research began with good intentions, but as time went on, Sue became more and more unhinged. You can even see it in part in this video, why is she porting Teco around in a stroller? It's a load of BS he was born with no inclination to cling, she's making that situation worse by refusing to carry him around with something to cling to, and instead putting him in a stroller. She also claims at one point that Kanzi is 'saying' Teco. He might well be calling to him, but he's not saying words. She's been rumoured to believe that the bonobos were speaking actual english to her at one time. Then we have the neglect of proper diet. Kanzi was incredibly overweight, dangerously so for a bonobo. There are good organizations out there working tirelessly to help bonobos in the wild, you're best off supporting them, such as Lola Ya Bonobo.
Absolutely, what the scientists should do is to learn from these cute and unique creatures, but not treat or teach them like humans, 'cause they're not!
That's way harder than it sounds
Ugh, the baby is sooo cute!!! I want a baby bonobo!
Why don't they teach Them sign language like Koko?
It was difficult to tell whether or not Koko understood what she was saying or if she was just memorizing answers to questions she'd been signed before, or gyessing the answers by mimicking the questioners question, like how a dog sits when told to, but does not therefore understand English. Kanzi is capable of using his lexigram keyboard to respond immediately to "complex" audial prompts which consisted of words he knew (e.g put the pine cones in the refrigerator) but which he had never heard before.
Apples, Oranges and Pears what he said
Surely got to be worth trying sign language. Especially as this little one is of a different species, and (as stated in the video) has “freed-up” hands (due to reduced clinging reflex). In any case, all the videos I’ve seen of Koko (gorilla) convey to me that she often very much initiated dialogue. Even dogs can understand more than commands (expanded later) and initiate (limited) “conversations”.
Many animals do use their own sign language - it’s just that most people don’t notice or allow for that possibility. My GF’s poodle has generalised “I want to eat” (conscious open-mouth) into “I want” and very much reacts to informational words (more than commands actually!). For example if I suggest a place to visit she will say she wants that. Probably followed by “coughing” - which is instinctive dog-talk for “let’s all go off together” (as in dog-pack hunting). If she wants to eat and we don’t guess that correctly then she pretend-swallows also. So she blends instinctive language with learned or even invented language. But only if she has to - her preference is always for us to do the work and guess correctly. Dogs lack the mimicry instinct of apes. They don’t “ape”! Poodles can learn vocabularies of 300+ words, surprisingly. Also they have “grammar processing” elements in their brains, but unlike us it is fed by all senses, not just voice and instinctive nonverbals.
Most animals communicate by eyes - it can be very subtle. People tend to just “barge in” and treat animals like possessions or even toys. The richer path begins with respect.
Koko probably understood the sign language, but i don't buy those bonobos actually understand those lexigrams, i mean, come on, they aren't even paying attention, they just point them out randomly an get free food.
wow Kanji, great to see you again
A loving place might include TO FREE ANIMALS FROM CAPTIVITY, and maybe go study them in their environment, and learn their language.
This lady reminds me of Kate McKinnon in the snl skit “whiskers r we” lol thank me later
Just leave them alone do not kill them.
Life could be a dream....LIFE COULD BE A DREAM 🎶
The difference is...we dont live in small cages..they do
get a spicies thats more advanced than us possibly alien and they will stick you in a cage. Don't be so narcissistic
0:37 me when the pizza guy is at the door
Wait...where is the mom?
@TheCatsMeow PrettyHorses kanzi is the dad
He is as smart as a 3 year old human baby.
I been inside the faci5