This was my exact question, and you answered it completely and comprehensively. I appreciate the time you took to conduct all those tests. Big thanks 😊
Great work. I just recently went through this and with help from the folks on Raft Discord found a solution. I have grass plots on top of my building housing my honey farm which is covered on all sides except for 1 side that is completely open. The fix was to place another roof over the top of my animals and the grass plots. Since I have done this, I have not had any issues and no longer have to play scarecrow building sim. I have only recently come back to Raft, since the update and really appreciate your videos. Very helpful with lots of good, solid info. Thank you!
Thanks a bunch for all the hard work and info from this. It was irritating having seagulls phase through solid matter to get at my crops, and I shall no longer have to deal with this fowl problem.
Damn this is a impressiv video, fr, GZ :) i will still have to do one more test, with one square base removed (to acces water) in the seagull proof room ^^
One thing I noticed that was lovely - vertical clearance! Those same plots were on top of the roof, but the seagull went into the smaller building, not the larger one with the flowers. Which is good, because that's pretty much my plan for my small raft idea.
Thanks for doing all of this testing! I had a few plots and a beehive under some stairs with grass plots almost directly above...no seagulls. I completely re-constructed the back of my raft to move everything up one floor to expand my beehive operation (with your design BTW!) and the grass plots/animals on top...seagulls galore! Now back to the drawing board! Gonna try the roof over the grass plots trick from another commenter...so much for an open lawn area. I will have it figured out for my next redesign lol!
Very great work! It’s interesting that the doors were giving you issues - I’ve employed no-wall roofs to my raft (sections of the raft where I place pillars two spaces apart from each other in a circular or rectangular pattern, add a singular ring of second-level floors for roofing panels to be built off of, then add a roof to the top; hit me up if this is confusing and you can come see it) in some places and placed some watermelons underneath it. No issue, for some reason. Not that it’s worth looking into, but for anyone who wants a more open concept, just know you can!
The grass plots were the culprits! Thanks for the testing! I thought that adding a third floor stopped the attacks, but I just realized that it's moving the grass when redesigning my first floor that (unknowingly) solved the issue. That being said, having an enclosed building isn't necessary. I've had some plants in a wall-less room (only partially walled), and not in the center of the room, never being attacked, I haven't tested it but it seems that as long as the plants are far enough (~2 to 3 squares) under the roof the seagulls algorithm treat it as if the room is enclosed.
Started playing raft 3 days ago. Seagulls are very annoying, destroying my crops every time I leave the raft to explore/farm from an island. I usually take out all the crops out from the crop plot before leaving the raft. Thank you for showing all the tests. This video is really helpful.
heres my tip for that cause i need seagull meat too for some of the recipes. Do the seagull proof and then put down bird nests. the seagulls will think that there are no crops to attack and then will go for the nests to land in.
I’ve been trying this set up for weeks with my honey farm before your video came out, I also have tree plots nearby but no glitch or whatsoever, I have rooftiles instead of flat platforms on top btw. P/s: love your tutorial, keep up the good work!
Thank you so much for testing and proving this. I was getting so frustrated because my greenhouse that had been fine before just suddenly started getting attacked every time I turned my back. x_x Though this thwarts my plans for a lawn and house on top of my roof. I so wish they'd fix this bug.
AAAHH it was the grass plot! The seagulls keep eating my bee flowers and my animal farm was right on the roof. I will have to change my farm. Thank you for this video, you really tried every possibility and answered every possible question I had ^^
Nice job on that raft! If I had to guess I'd say you have spent a considerable amount of time farming. That's an impressive raft and with a lighthouse no less. My raft, in comparison, looks like a run down cabin with no walls. LOL
Thank you so much for this video!! I built a greenhouse on the opposite side of my raft from the crop lots and so far so good. I've had one instance where a seagull still got my potatoes even with the greenhouse doors closed, but it hasn't happened again.
this was one heck of an information i was looking for ....for a long time....thank you...enclosed space and none of those 5 items within 8 tiles ....will try it out
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This is great, I've avoided crops as the seagulls just annoy me to no end. No longer! OK, after a lot of needed updates to my raft... I'm in love with your brain and have ever since your huge Tour De Force Ark Rex mutation and breeding video. Fantastic stuff!
Thank you for this. It was rather annoying to just have the seagulls suddenly return one day and not know why. I hope this gets fixed soon. I can't afford to have that much space apart on my small raft.
yup no worries. if you buy through the trading post they have since introduced a scarecrow that will permanently get rid of all of the birds without doing this method. new implementation but for early game this method still works.
they have also just put out a new scarecrow with chapter 3 that you can buy in the trading post that will scare away the seagulls permanently "supposedly"
you can build whatever you want however you want, you just need to put 2 birds nest at least 5 blocks away proximity from your crops and they will never attack again
Oh my god, THANK YOU! So it's 8 tiles away and it'll be fine? I'll try that! I hope they fix this tho, my pc ain't good enough to handle a very big raft so I had everything very close lol
I have seen seagulls attack planter boxes mounted on external walls. The seagull would glitch through the walls. I have never put any plants next to the greenhouse, but I have had advanced tree plots within less than one square and they NEVER attack. I also had small medium, and large plant plots (regular and advanced of each) the level below and maybe 1 squares away and nothing. I put grass in my greenhouse always and I have used both regular and advanced planter boxes)... no problems. I do old wood with windows and have used peaked and flat roof, and even double high windowed walls to enclose trees and other plants in the same treehouse. I have used flat and peaked roofs fine and palm roofs fine. I have even left the door open but I did not have any planter boxes in the square in front of the door, but I did have them in the next square over with no problems. Now the one I have grass in I have never had problems, but I always keep the door closed because I have animals in that (and yes you can put planter boxes on top of grass plots as long as the animals can reach a tiny bit of the grass plot (they can not path over... or even around planter boxes so I keep them against the walls. The only thing I can think that is different is I had my grass and flowers on the second story and the other greenhouse with my fruits and vegetables was in another greenhouse on the first story, but I forgot to put a door and had a hole in my roof and both times the lower greenhouse was attacked, but NEVER the upper one. The seagulls will even path around corners and down hallways, but if you put an open door in there they will not attack. Now this second greenhouse I did not add until after Chapter 3 came out, but I have always run a greenhouse with flowers and grass plots. So I can put tree plots within 1 square if they are on the same level and I can have a second greenhouse just outside of 1 square away a level lower. I even have shoes in my bedroom in a different section with flowers the level below and that was maybe 2-3 squares away. I also have trees in plots that on the same level less than a square away on the second level too. And I have never had attacks if I leave the door open as long as it was not the square the door was on. You can check it. I do run a few mods, but I still get seagull attacks if I have any holes in the roof or no door. It would be impossible for me to have this stuff 8 blocks away because my raft is only 7x8 squares. When I had holes in the lower greenhouse they ONLY attacked the lower greenhouse. The thing with the tree plots really confuses me. And while I had the greenhouse below attacked several times because of holes... they never attacked the upper one. This was after chapter 3 was released, so maybe they fixed some of these problems.
this is incredible research. i am currently building a greenhouse with a 2-story-high level for trees and another 1-story level above it with medium crops. both levels are sealed, but I wonder if seagulls will attack. it would have been good to see you try this design as well? although you did build several houses with plots in them and seagulls didn't attack
i build all my rooms 3 high. inside the 2nd floor i will build a "2 high" plant room with a 1 high enclosed "gap" room between it and the floor above. i was ALWAYS able to leave the doors open with no attacks.
So animals grazing on the roof of a 3-floor tall building would doom the flowers of a honey farm on the ground floor? I was hoping to do something like this on a partial rebuild of my raft.
one thing I didnt see that im curious about, can you make a multi-floored green house? is the rule that as long as each crop plot is encased in a building then its fine? and the only ones that would not work is if it is exposed to the outside? because it seems like having multiple buildings side by side was fine, just didnt see anyone cover if going vertical was also fine.
I think this may have been fixed in the 1.0 update, I have a level with grass cropplots above my small and medium cropplots. I do however have both levels enclosed, so I don't know if that has any impact
I build a big house with plants in the 1st floor and grass and trees on the roof but those devils break through my defensive so ig its time tu buy some advanced scarecrows >:( i really want automatic turrents for the seagulls
I wonder if there was an update behind the scenes (nothing in the log that I saw) with this because I have tree plots right next to an enclosed farming building and haven't had seagull attacks on them. I also have several small plots surrounding my beehives but they haven't been attacked either, I have a roof 2 stories up over them, no walls or doors around the beehives. Have seagulls finally been fixed? lol probably not
Just a dumb question, you put foundation armor on your entire raft for the looks or for the shark attacks? I'm pretty sure as long as you put them around the entire raft he won't attack the middle of it because it was patched, but I also love the look of the new foundation armor so I understand if that's the reason xD
This was my exact question, and you answered it completely and comprehensively. I appreciate the time you took to conduct all those tests. Big thanks 😊
thank you very much. yes, a huge thank you to all of you who support my channel
Great work. I just recently went through this and with help from the folks on Raft Discord found a solution. I have grass plots on top of my building housing my honey farm which is covered on all sides except for 1 side that is completely open. The fix was to place another roof over the top of my animals and the grass plots. Since I have done this, I have not had any issues and no longer have to play scarecrow building sim. I have only recently come back to Raft, since the update and really appreciate your videos. Very helpful with lots of good, solid info. Thank you!
thank you so much for your support.
Awesome work! Finally a seagull prevention method NOT based on random speculation and untested guessing =)
heck yeah. i try to be thurough as i can on my testing.
Thanks a bunch for all the hard work and info from this. It was irritating having seagulls phase through solid matter to get at my crops, and I shall no longer have to deal with this fowl problem.
Flowers, fruits and vegetables: (exist)
Seagulls: *"I am gonna end this man's whole career!"*
Damn this is a impressiv video, fr, GZ :)
i will still have to do one more test, with one square base removed (to acces water) in the seagull proof room ^^
Brilliantly researched, as usual.
thank you
One thing I noticed that was lovely - vertical clearance! Those same plots were on top of the roof, but the seagull went into the smaller building, not the larger one with the flowers. Which is good, because that's pretty much my plan for my small raft idea.
Thanks for doing all of this testing! I had a few plots and a beehive under some stairs with grass plots almost directly above...no seagulls. I completely re-constructed the back of my raft to move everything up one floor to expand my beehive operation (with your design BTW!) and the grass plots/animals on top...seagulls galore! Now back to the drawing board! Gonna try the roof over the grass plots trick from another commenter...so much for an open lawn area. I will have it figured out for my next redesign lol!
Very great work! It’s interesting that the doors were giving you issues - I’ve employed no-wall roofs to my raft (sections of the raft where I place pillars two spaces apart from each other in a circular or rectangular pattern, add a singular ring of second-level floors for roofing panels to be built off of, then add a roof to the top; hit me up if this is confusing and you can come see it) in some places and placed some watermelons underneath it. No issue, for some reason. Not that it’s worth looking into, but for anyone who wants a more open concept, just know you can!
The grass plots were the culprits! Thanks for the testing! I thought that adding a third floor stopped the attacks, but I just realized that it's moving the grass when redesigning my first floor that (unknowingly) solved the issue. That being said, having an enclosed building isn't necessary. I've had some plants in a wall-less room (only partially walled), and not in the center of the room, never being attacked, I haven't tested it but it seems that as long as the plants are far enough (~2 to 3 squares) under the roof the seagulls algorithm treat it as if the room is enclosed.
Started playing raft 3 days ago. Seagulls are very annoying, destroying my crops every time I leave the raft to explore/farm from an island. I usually take out all the crops out from the crop plot before leaving the raft. Thank you for showing all the tests. This video is really helpful.
This is really good to know. Although the only reason I plants things now is for seagull
meat, I still admire your scientific process.
heres my tip for that cause i need seagull meat too for some of the recipes. Do the seagull proof and then put down bird nests. the seagulls will think that there are no crops to attack and then will go for the nests to land in.
@@seeshellgaming6883 The advantage of using crop plots to attract seagulls, is that it's easy to hear when they land on them.
@@Car_Mo you can use a scarecrow for that, those last a bit longer than the crops do.
You’re a real one for this video 🙏🏻
I’ve been trying this set up for weeks with my honey farm before your video came out, I also have tree plots nearby but no glitch or whatsoever, I have rooftiles instead of flat platforms on top btw. P/s: love your tutorial, keep up the good work!
thank you so much. I do have a really good honey set up as well using 12 hives
@@seeshellgaming6883 I have 2 nests and about 6 hours on my raft exposed crops and I'm fine
Thank you so much for testing and proving this. I was getting so frustrated because my greenhouse that had been fine before just suddenly started getting attacked every time I turned my back. x_x Though this thwarts my plans for a lawn and house on top of my roof. I so wish they'd fix this bug.
AAAHH it was the grass plot! The seagulls keep eating my bee flowers and my animal farm was right on the roof. I will have to change my farm.
Thank you for this video, you really tried every possibility and answered every possible question I had ^^
This was fascinating and very helpful indeed. Thank you very much for taking the time to science it all out for us.
thank you very much i am glad it helped!
Thorough. Thank you. The lack of tutorial in this game makes a lot of things frustrating.
no worries
Nice job on that raft! If I had to guess I'd say you have spent a considerable amount of time farming. That's an impressive raft and with a lighthouse no less. My raft, in comparison, looks like a run down cabin with no walls. LOL
lol thank you so much. appreciate the support.
Thank you so much for this video!! I built a greenhouse on the opposite side of my raft from the crop lots and so far so good. I've had one instance where a seagull still got my potatoes even with the greenhouse doors closed, but it hasn't happened again.
Thanks for the video! I ragequit my last save because I couldn't keep my flowers safe from seagulls. This explains why. Great job!
I really appreciate this. Seagull attacks on my flowers was one of my biggest frustrations in this game.
I started play raft like a month ago and this is very useful for my honey farm. Tysm!
glad to help!
this was one heck of an information i was looking for ....for a long time....thank you...enclosed space and none of those 5 items within 8 tiles ....will try it out
love the "scientific method" approach to testing, thanks for doing that
thank you i did do a lot of testing to do this
Thank you for the video. I've been dealing with these seagulls for about 2 days, thanks to you I solved this error ♥
Это было замечательное исследование! Огромное тебе спасибо! Ты единственная, кто так подробно всё смог объяснить!
I just started playing Raft. This video is so useful, thank you!
thank you for your support!
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Well, it looks like I have some redesign to do on my raft. Great research, extremely helpful!
thank you i hope it helps
This is great, I've avoided crops as the seagulls just annoy me to no end. No longer! OK, after a lot of needed updates to my raft... I'm in love with your brain and have ever since your huge Tour De Force Ark Rex mutation and breeding video. Fantastic stuff!
thank you.
Thanks for taking the time to experiment and for sharing this with us. Saves all of us playing the game from a lot of frustration and confusion.
Thank you for this. It was rather annoying to just have the seagulls suddenly return one day and not know why. I hope this gets fixed soon. I can't afford to have that much space apart on my small raft.
no worries i hope it helps
I used to watch you all the time when you made a lot of raft videos i really miss your raft videos:(
got another one coming out very soon. plus with chapter three lots more to come.
This video is the best, i had the beehives with the flowers in a room, and the grass for animals in top of that :O
Such an underrated video bless your soul for this the seagulls were driving me insane
Thanks SO MUCH for the tips! I can finally farm anything with peace without losing my last seeds, thanks for it =D
This is a fine video that has been made
Impressive and valid research and testing, thank you very much!
thats is some dedication. thank you for your hard work.
yup no worries. if you buy through the trading post they have since introduced a scarecrow that will permanently get rid of all of the birds without doing this method. new implementation but for early game this method still works.
Very well made! I like how you showed each test and explained them. I will definitely use this info
Thank you for all of your hard work. Now I can put away my 30 scarecrows.
they have also just put out a new scarecrow with chapter 3 that you can buy in the trading post that will scare away the seagulls permanently "supposedly"
More great content! I love this crazy game!
It is amazing. I love it.
Nice video as always
Keeo on going👍
thank you
Thank you for saving me hours of trial and error.
Thanks a lot for testing how to prevent disgusting seagull attack!
really appreciate all your videos, you actually explain how to do things very very well.
thanks
Wow ! Awesome work, thanks for all these tests !
This was very awesome and answered many questions, thank you for taking the time to really research this.
So thorough! thanks!
I RECENTL;Y PLAYTED RAFT ABGAIN...YOUR VIDS ARE of asmr quality sorry for caps
Brilliant details. Thank you very much, helped greatly!
thank you!
Thanks, this was very helpful.
you can build whatever you want however you want, you just need to put 2 birds nest at least 5 blocks away proximity from your crops and they will never attack again
incredibliy thorough! good video!
thank you so much for the guide, this helps me so much!
Oh my god, THANK YOU! So it's 8 tiles away and it'll be fine? I'll try that! I hope they fix this tho, my pc ain't good enough to handle a very big raft so I had everything very close lol
Excellent information! Thank you for doing this!
no problem. thanks for the support.
Its about anything that has the ability to be watered. That's why advanced crop with trees and grass plots create the window as you put it
Great information ✌️💙 thanks you
this video cured my depression :D
Thank you! This worked great for me.
This is going to save my life lmao. Thanks!
yeah no worries. i hope it helps.
Very helpful, thanks.
OMG THANK YOU!! How has this not been fixed?
thks very efficient test
great testing
I'm addicted to this game 🤣
its good. been playing it for years now and i still love it.
I have seen seagulls attack planter boxes mounted on external walls. The seagull would glitch through the walls. I have never put any plants next to the greenhouse, but I have had advanced tree plots within less than one square and they NEVER attack. I also had small medium, and large plant plots (regular and advanced of each) the level below and maybe 1 squares away and nothing. I put grass in my greenhouse always and I have used both regular and advanced planter boxes)... no problems. I do old wood with windows and have used peaked and flat roof, and even double high windowed walls to enclose trees and other plants in the same treehouse. I have used flat and peaked roofs fine and palm roofs fine. I have even left the door open but I did not have any planter boxes in the square in front of the door, but I did have them in the next square over with no problems. Now the one I have grass in I have never had problems, but I always keep the door closed because I have animals in that (and yes you can put planter boxes on top of grass plots as long as the animals can reach a tiny bit of the grass plot (they can not path over... or even around planter boxes so I keep them against the walls. The only thing I can think that is different is I had my grass and flowers on the second story and the other greenhouse with my fruits and vegetables was in another greenhouse on the first story, but I forgot to put a door and had a hole in my roof and both times the lower greenhouse was attacked, but NEVER the upper one. The seagulls will even path around corners and down hallways, but if you put an open door in there they will not attack. Now this second greenhouse I did not add until after Chapter 3 came out, but I have always run a greenhouse with flowers and grass plots.
So I can put tree plots within 1 square if they are on the same level and I can have a second greenhouse just outside of 1 square away a level lower. I even have shoes in my bedroom in a different section with flowers the level below and that was maybe 2-3 squares away. I also have trees in plots that on the same level less than a square away on the second level too. And I have never had attacks if I leave the door open as long as it was not the square the door was on. You can check it. I do run a few mods, but I still get seagull attacks if I have any holes in the roof or no door. It would be impossible for me to have this stuff 8 blocks away because my raft is only 7x8 squares. When I had holes in the lower greenhouse they ONLY attacked the lower greenhouse. The thing with the tree plots really confuses me. And while I had the greenhouse below attacked several times because of holes... they never attacked the upper one. This was after chapter 3 was released, so maybe they fixed some of these problems.
Thanks for the info
this is incredible research. i am currently building a greenhouse with a 2-story-high level for trees and another 1-story level above it with medium crops. both levels are sealed, but I wonder if seagulls will attack. it would have been good to see you try this design as well? although you did build several houses with plots in them and seagulls didn't attack
Thank you! I of course had my grass plots on the roof. Oof.
Thank you so much!
Very informative, thank you
Omg you are so thorough thank u
First!!!
yes
i build all my rooms 3 high.
inside the 2nd floor i will build a "2 high" plant room with a 1 high enclosed "gap" room between it and the floor above.
i was ALWAYS able to leave the doors open with no attacks.
yes that will work because it is enclosed. you can leave doors open but sometimes it is finicky.
Thank you!
I have a giant main room with a few doors open, but I think if the plots are far away from the doors it doesn't matter.
Amazing
thank you
nice informal video
So animals grazing on the roof of a 3-floor tall building would doom the flowers of a honey farm on the ground floor? I was hoping to do something like this on a partial rebuild of my raft.
one thing I didnt see that im curious about, can you make a multi-floored green house? is the rule that as long as each crop plot is encased in a building then its fine? and the only ones that would not work is if it is exposed to the outside? because it seems like having multiple buildings side by side was fine, just didnt see anyone cover if going vertical was also fine.
Good job
I think this may have been fixed in the 1.0 update, I have a level with grass cropplots above my small and medium cropplots. I do however have both levels enclosed, so I don't know if that has any impact
What happens if the planters are on higher levels? IE the tree/shoe/small/etc are on the top level and no planters on lower levels.
I didn't know sea gulls attack anything. I never planted anything, but made nests and kill them for food! Yum!
Have you noticed any mechanics changes in 1.0 or with the advanced plots? Cheers!
Thank you
Quick question: do somehow seagulls have a preference for them flowers? Because for some reason they always ONLY attack my flowers.
oh man thank you so much!!
yeah i hope it helps.
thank you so much!
So as long the crops is planted in a enclose room, doesnt matter the room is next to eAch other or above?
bless you
I build a big house with plants in the 1st floor and grass and trees on the roof but those devils break through my defensive so ig its time tu buy some advanced scarecrows >:( i really want automatic turrents for the seagulls
Me watching: hmm interesting
Also me: wish I had raft
I wonder if there was an update behind the scenes (nothing in the log that I saw) with this because I have tree plots right next to an enclosed farming building and haven't had seagull attacks on them.
I also have several small plots surrounding my beehives but they haven't been attacked either, I have a roof 2 stories up over them, no walls or doors around the beehives.
Have seagulls finally been fixed? lol probably not
SCIENCE!
Just a dumb question, you put foundation armor on your entire raft for the looks or for the shark attacks? I'm pretty sure as long as you put them around the entire raft he won't attack the middle of it because it was patched, but I also love the look of the new foundation armor so I understand if that's the reason xD
i just had about 500 metal ingots so may as well have reinforced it alll for aesthetics. this raft was already reinforced from a long time ago.