Jaheira Tries To Convince Companions To Fight Dark Urge - All Reactions - Badlur's Gate 3

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  • Опубликовано: 19 авг 2024
  • The only one to fight you is Wyll, everyone else stays by your side.
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Комментарии • 701

  • @immoralboi3158
    @immoralboi3158 9 месяцев назад +9339

    The rest of the party : I won't give up! I know there's good in you!
    Astarion : Fuck it we Bhaal

    • @GigiBranconi
      @GigiBranconi 9 месяцев назад +264

      This made me laugh harder than it should have

    • @albinopenguin2520
      @albinopenguin2520 9 месяцев назад +325

      WE BHAALIN!

    • @choryllis6646
      @choryllis6646 9 месяцев назад +140

      And then they Bhaal'ed all over the room and it was amazing

    • @Just-A-Gamer1524
      @Just-A-Gamer1524 8 месяцев назад +51

      Why did I just think of Jarl Ballin! 🤣

    • @DMAN_GAMR
      @DMAN_GAMR 8 месяцев назад +35

      Wyll said Bhaalin at what cost?

  • @proverbialking3452
    @proverbialking3452 10 месяцев назад +7169

    Everyone: I know there is still a part of you that's good.
    Astarion: What a waste of a good weekend!

    • @LordAryu
      @LordAryu 10 месяцев назад +365

      Out of all companions he has served a dark master of two hundred years. He understands Tav in a manner no other character does

    • @ei492
      @ei492 10 месяцев назад +131

      ​@@LordAryu Karlach served Zariel, Wyll served Mizora, SH served Shar, Laz'el served Vlaakith and Gale was kinda sorta Mystra's playtoy, so...
      I'm not saying Astarion doesn't understand Durge better than others do. I'm just saying that the reason behind his jokes might be a lot more simple - he's a little gremlin :D

    • @MrKarnac
      @MrKarnac 10 месяцев назад +28

      @@ei492 Mizora must truly be the worst boss ever, Wyll switching teams on Tav must be some deep-seated PTSD... I'd watch a 'horrible bosses' episode for Mizora & Wyll xD

    • @urmumscookin
      @urmumscookin 9 месяцев назад +5

      Wow I actually read that immediately in astarions voice

    • @SeventhheavenDK
      @SeventhheavenDK 7 месяцев назад +2

      As stated above, mostly everyone has served a Dark Master.
      The only difference is that Astarion doesn't care about evil, because he actually enjoys evil. He desires dark power, while the reasons for the others are very different, and they know very well that Tav is making a mistake, unlike Astarion.

  • @thearcanamodernau8130
    @thearcanamodernau8130 10 месяцев назад +5928

    Everyone: I'm so heartbroken, I know you're better than this.
    Astarion and Shart: *Sigh* I guess we're Bhaal's bitches now, aren't we love?

    • @jessy1332
      @jessy1332 10 месяцев назад +106

      i love them

    • @declancampbell1277
      @declancampbell1277 10 месяцев назад +174

      can we please stop calling her shart :(

    • @lurkingposter
      @lurkingposter 10 месяцев назад +579

      @@declancampbell1277 The train has left the station. Even the VA calls her fanbase Sharties.

    • @declancampbell1277
      @declancampbell1277 10 месяцев назад +81

      @@lurkingposter i know, i still fuckin hate it though hahaha.

    • @thearcanamodernau8130
      @thearcanamodernau8130 10 месяцев назад +154

      @@lurkingposter LMAO bless her, we don't deserve her

  • @sinizade
    @sinizade 10 месяцев назад +6328

    I love that Astarion is like:
    "Ugh! I support you baby, but know that I will complain throughout the entire process"

    • @JBSouls
      @JBSouls 10 месяцев назад +103

      Wouldn’t have it any other way xD

    • @thearcanamodernau8130
      @thearcanamodernau8130 10 месяцев назад +57

      Same with Bae'zel lol

    • @alandtic4616
      @alandtic4616 4 месяца назад +18

      He's like fine but you better help me become a vampire lord alright you owe me

  • @madmouse1016
    @madmouse1016 10 месяцев назад +1858

    Everyone else: *depressed, almost on the brink of tears*
    Astarion: Welp-

  • @meris8486
    @meris8486 10 месяцев назад +2750

    Gale: "There's a good person in there somewhere"
    90% of Durge players rip off Gales hand just for fun

    • @asusaki6207
      @asusaki6207 9 месяцев назад +509

      Considering he made it till Act 3 despite PC being a durge... Yeah no he's right, somewhere there's a good person lmao

    • @KiraNightV
      @KiraNightV 9 месяцев назад +201

      IT WAS AN ACCIDENT! I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS GONNA HAPPEN!

    • @maxrevive592
      @maxrevive592 9 месяцев назад +36

      Speak for yourself 90%.

    • @meris8486
      @meris8486 9 месяцев назад +77

      @@maxrevive592
      I'm not being merciful to those who quickload after doing it

    • @MechbossBoogie
      @MechbossBoogie 9 месяцев назад +38

      I wanted to close the portal on his arm before I even knew dark urge was a thing.

  • @cyruscrompton8221
    @cyruscrompton8221 10 месяцев назад +993

    Gale Shadowheart & Karlach:
    I cant believe we've gone this far, but we can still fix it!
    Laezel & Wyll:
    I cant take this anymore, it has to end!
    Astorian:
    Murderer pussy got me actin -5Wisdom

    • @santiagojara8056
      @santiagojara8056 10 месяцев назад +124

      Wyll is the only one who's against you. Lae'zel doesn't like it but she has come so far she won't turn her back on you.

    • @howsad2397
      @howsad2397 9 месяцев назад +81

      LOL he literally called me bhaal-babe after the gortash debacle, so it is true 💀

    • @albinopenguin2520
      @albinopenguin2520 9 месяцев назад +39

      ​@@santiagojara8056lae'zel be like double or nothing.

    • @honey-hunterslimefanno.3257
      @honey-hunterslimefanno.3257 9 месяцев назад +15

      @@santiagojara8056Does Wyll actually fight you?

    • @drakearvidsson6936
      @drakearvidsson6936 20 дней назад

      NO NO GUYS IT’S BOOOAAAAL!!!!

  • @ALLmasked
    @ALLmasked 10 месяцев назад +4273

    its odd that karlach would side with you but if you rationalize it, its heartbreaking. either she's been with worse in the bloodwar or that she finally accepted that the kind of people she ends up with are somewhat evil, same with gortash. and she clings to that hope that there could be good in you :((

    • @Setzer
      @Setzer 10 месяцев назад +118

      She does leave if you kill the tieflings, so you do have to resist being evil in that one.

    • @__OS__
      @__OS__ 10 месяцев назад +40

      @@Setzer hey, they just had a convenient accident when i got there, after meeting Karlach...how the world works

    • @latch9781
      @latch9781 10 месяцев назад +76

      Karlach is better than anyone deserves

    • @zhawkmoth3653
      @zhawkmoth3653 10 месяцев назад +14

      Naw I'm Karlach to the end irl. The loyalty to my friends and loved ones is stronger than anything. It's why I have a lot of friends, but can be easily betrayed.
      Astarion is just my boi though.

    • @zhawkmoth3653
      @zhawkmoth3653 10 месяцев назад +4

      @@Setzer She was not your friend yet though.

  • @emeraldgaze
    @emeraldgaze 10 месяцев назад +909

    Everyone: I can still fix you
    Astarion: I accept you, bad decisions and all

  • @mannymcgee1317
    @mannymcgee1317 10 месяцев назад +688

    Its easy to reject Bhaal but Rejecting the one true god BOOaahl is impossible

    • @ReplicatorFifth
      @ReplicatorFifth 10 месяцев назад +48

      Great and powerful BOOOaaahl!!! *koa-toa chanting*

    • @kittyplayz1480
      @kittyplayz1480 9 месяцев назад +7

      Gotta accept him bc the Koatoa are so cool you need them to like you

    • @politecat9207
      @politecat9207 9 месяцев назад +2

      And then you find out that Booahl is actually Bhaal

    • @kittyplayz1480
      @kittyplayz1480 9 месяцев назад +12

      @@politecat9207 BOOAAHL is a Redcap the Kuotoa mistook for a god

    • @politecat9207
      @politecat9207 9 месяцев назад +9

      @@kittyplayz1480 That too, but Booahl is one of Bhaals actual aliases.

  • @belancicm
    @belancicm 10 месяцев назад +7237

    Astarion is the only one that would still love me if I was a worm

    • @ChaosLemonVIII
      @ChaosLemonVIII 10 месяцев назад +834

      Nah he'll break up with you if he sees so much as a tentacle

    • @lcicada
      @lcicada 10 месяцев назад +162

      @@ChaosLemonVIIIOnly if he’s ascended tho

    • @cen3684
      @cen3684 10 месяцев назад +674

      @@lcicada nah spawnstarion still is like: "ummmmm idk?...maybe lets.. lets ..um chill for a while? i want to think???"
      I think only gale is 100% comfortable with staying with a worm 😭

    • @Blahblahblaafmn
      @Blahblahblaafmn 10 месяцев назад

      @@cen3684 Gale is desperate, poor man experienced the CELESTIAL N U T and is now trying to recover any semblance of the feeling of nutting so hard he literally created a new constellation.

    • @athenaleonard1046
      @athenaleonard1046 10 месяцев назад +359

      Dude would NOT still love you if you were a worm I’m sorry to say

  • @MalzraAirwynn
    @MalzraAirwynn 10 месяцев назад +606

    I love the contrast between Astarion and literally everyone else.

    • @SeventhheavenDK
      @SeventhheavenDK 7 месяцев назад +7

      Because he is evil, so the character serving Bahl is not a big thing for him.

    • @Airehcaz
      @Airehcaz 7 месяцев назад +1

      Well Jaheira is the most different here. She’s my favorite companion for sure.

    • @calvintyler9281
      @calvintyler9281 6 месяцев назад +6

      To be fair karlach and shart are pretty similar he just adds 30 more "🙄" to it.

    • @ascendeads
      @ascendeads 6 месяцев назад

      @@SeventhheavenDK You will rot you will begin to cough within the next 7 days

    • @Geni-yh1pv
      @Geni-yh1pv Месяц назад

      @@SeventhheavenDKis it Ascended Astarion ?

  • @notarealperson8956
    @notarealperson8956 10 месяцев назад +1482

    Its a crime that Minthara doesent have any dialogue here, it would be hilarious

    • @sammi-qg9nj
      @sammi-qg9nj 10 месяцев назад +202

      To be fair at this point considering larian’s track record, it would be shocking if she got a single line of dialogue here at all 😂

    • @SomeGuyXD65
      @SomeGuyXD65 10 месяцев назад +307

      Minthara is disappointed if you decline the slayer form, but also disappointed if you promise yourself to Bhaal.
      I think Minthara had a different set of writers who have different understandings of her.

    • @rudy3418
      @rudy3418 10 месяцев назад +229

      ⁠@@SomeGuyXD65I mean shes a huge hypocrite, but she has also made it very clear in several dialogues shes against being devoted to gods, and actively seeks power in order to abandon them.

    • @SomeGuyXD65
      @SomeGuyXD65 10 месяцев назад +151

      @rudy3418 I believe that Minthara was originally going to be a boring evil companion that only cared for power, but eventually evolved into the story of a woman who desperately needs stability but could only find it through God's who never meant to save her.

    • @fainonfire3050
      @fainonfire3050 10 месяцев назад +111

      "Defend the world from what SHE'S BECOME? THIS is who she has ALWAYS BEEN. You were too blinded by your self-righteousness to see it. But fear not - it shall never blind you again. We will make sure of that."

  • @roombster
    @roombster 9 месяцев назад +1265

    Lae'zel is the most unabashedly truthful person in the entire game, to the point that she doesn't understand the concept of compliments because she only speaks highly of those who truly impress her, therefore they're truths and not compliments. With that in mind, I find it incredibly endearing that she is very loud and affirmative about not leaving your side while also being extremely vocal about not approving of your choice. She'll follow you anywhere, even if she thinks your choices are stupid and damnable. Except if you become a wretched ghaik. She would not love you if you were a worm.
    Edit: Just found out that Lae'zel will, in fact, love you if you were a worm. Best girl.

    • @arpeggiatorful
      @arpeggiatorful 9 месяцев назад +122

      I became a ghaik and she chose to stay with me. Lae'zel is best girl.

    • @roombster
      @roombster 9 месяцев назад +126

      @@arpeggiatorful FOR REAL??? SHE DOES LOVE YOU IF YOU'RE A WORM?? oh my god I love her so much

    • @arpeggiatorful
      @arpeggiatorful 9 месяцев назад +78

      @@roombster Yeah lol she was like "I have to get used to the tentacles" funny af. I think I had maxed out affinity with her.

    • @arpeggiatorful
      @arpeggiatorful 9 месяцев назад +35

      @@roombster I was honestly going for Shadowheart but then she woke me up at night to do the dirty. It was over by then I was the source of her bruises and joy 😂😂😂

    • @roombster
      @roombster 9 месяцев назад +29

      @@arpeggiatorful Karlach was my first choice, then I interacted with Lae'zel more and realized she's not the cruel person people make her out to be. I think I also just generally have a thing for women that aren't conventionally likeable, because I was debating on romancing her even before I knew she had a soft spot 😂
      Regardless, I'm still chopping away at the game slowly. I have 250+ hours, but I haven't finished the game yet since restarting my OG save for Lae'zel and having two other saves for Shadowheart and Karlach 😂
      Bae'zel is irresistible.

  • @caseytrelka0
    @caseytrelka0 10 месяцев назад +230

    Karlach is so desperate for even a smidgen of hope and happiness that she betrays her childhood hero
    Karlach has possibly the saddest story

  • @Twerkulies
    @Twerkulies 10 месяцев назад +948

    Everyone: I know there's still good in you.
    Astarion: I'm with you, but can we hurry this up, I got a 300 year old brandy and a good book waiting for me in camp.

  • @kamalalsb7292
    @kamalalsb7292 7 месяцев назад +120

    Wyll: Only a Bhaalspawn deals in absolutes. I will do what I must.
    Durge: You will try.

  • @Sacred_Korok69
    @Sacred_Korok69 10 месяцев назад +823

    I love how Astarion doesnt even want to change you😂 before fighting Orin and getting the Slayer form i let him ascend, so he was just like "Oh got some new powers from Papa? Neat"😂
    Supportive no matter what happens😂

    • @skugga4125
      @skugga4125 10 месяцев назад +61

      i mean that point he sees you more..like "pet" he wants to control..his..nature think its even better when you "grow" stronger :,D

    • @oOVanillaMelOo
      @oOVanillaMelOo 10 месяцев назад +53

      I kind of understand though. He says it at some point after this too, that he knows how it feels to be a controlled pawn and that it isn’t you anymore. He knows there is no fighting this and he’s going to love you until he cannot stay with you anymore. And after that, he’ll remember you forever.. it’s so sad but also so understanding and loving 😭

    • @knightofwandss
      @knightofwandss 10 месяцев назад +18

      @@skugga4125Awkward for him when he gets slaughtered as part of the BhaalBrain conspiracy three hours later

    • @Deadpan_Snarker
      @Deadpan_Snarker 10 месяцев назад +32

      Funny that Astarion is supportive no matter what, but his fans will never show him the same level of support when he wants to Ascend because "it's wrong 😢".

    • @Sacred_Korok69
      @Sacred_Korok69 10 месяцев назад +5

      @@Deadpan_Snarker Trueeeee

  • @Choshako
    @Choshako 10 месяцев назад +356

    Damn, Lae'zel is a (surprisingly) loyal friend/lover. She clearly hates your decision to serve Bhaal, but as she says, she can't/won't bring herself to fight someone she cares about.

    • @lunardelos1210
      @lunardelos1210 5 месяцев назад +9

      Why is that surprising? She has shown always that she is loyal to a fault and would die for those she pledges herself to.

    • @ryokiritani28
      @ryokiritani28 4 месяца назад +11

      ​@@lunardelos1210 fr, Lae'zel is so loyal she'll let you go first in the purification device if you can prove you're worthy of her trust

    • @lunardelos1210
      @lunardelos1210 4 месяца назад +5

      @@ryokiritani28 literally. Anyone being surprised to find she's loyal just tells me they don't pay attention to her at all. I wonder why...

    • @user-ki8oc1zg7l
      @user-ki8oc1zg7l 3 месяца назад +2

      @@lunardelos1210 Sure, she is so loyal that after a few days spent with a protagonist she would easily betray the queen whom she served her whole life.
      Gith loyalty!

    • @Oznerock
      @Oznerock 2 месяца назад +3

      ​@@user-ki8oc1zg7lShe... doesn't really?
      She said it herself. She didn't abandon vlakith. Vlakith abandoned her.
      As far as I know she only turns on vlakith *after* vlakith tries to have her killed, alongside with the whole party. And even then she has to take a while to think about it after, and in the moment she boils it down to "no these are traitors and this is a test"

  • @Stingrea51
    @Stingrea51 10 месяцев назад +194

    BG3.5 - The Intervention
    It's just the whole gang rallied together to bring Durge back from past the point of no return with Gale and Karlach leading the charge and Astarion there because deep down he knows they're right but if anyone asks, he's here for the snacks and juicy drama

    • @MrBazBake
      @MrBazBake 10 месяцев назад +27

      Astarion: "Can I keep murdering things and bathing the world in blood? Cool, let's get this party moving."

  • @owlsofthenight_yt2000
    @owlsofthenight_yt2000 10 месяцев назад +125

    1:04 Astarion just broke me❤😂
    This man is really going to fight to keep you alive

  • @PrincipalCellist
    @PrincipalCellist 10 месяцев назад +833

    Astarion would love you if you were a hellspawn, evil, a hero, or even if you were a worm
    But he draws the line at you being a squid 😭😂

    • @ReplicatorFifth
      @ReplicatorFifth 10 месяцев назад +91

      Mindflayers can’t really love so I see his point xD

    • @welsh7858
      @welsh7858 10 месяцев назад +8

      Doesn't seems he likes me in my playthrough no matter how I tried. So don't give a fuck.

    • @GigiBranconi
      @GigiBranconi 9 месяцев назад +22

      It's an... acquired taste. I can't judge him too much xD

    • @AngryBudgieNoises
      @AngryBudgieNoises 9 месяцев назад +13

      He won’t love you if he’s ascended and if you’re Karlach though, cause ouchie burny

    • @condensationbear1814
      @condensationbear1814 8 месяцев назад +4

      All about the looks ig 😂

  • @HiKamiAkira
    @HiKamiAkira 10 месяцев назад +141

    Can we talk about Tav's eye play when Lae'zel supported him? His face such perfect in that moment. Smth like "Oh sh*t... did you hear it? She will kikc my ass and kill you after that"

  • @hails.bells99
    @hails.bells99 10 месяцев назад +237

    Astarion a real ride or die and I love him for it

    • @DavZeugme
      @DavZeugme 9 месяцев назад +13

      Astarion doesn't give a fuck about being a murderer. He lure dozens of people to their death for his mere survival. Of course he'll kill more for his own gain.

  • @soundlessroom
    @soundlessroom 10 месяцев назад +264

    EVEN NOW GALE DOES NOT GIVE UP
    I LOVE HIM SO MUCH

    • @heathermarie1334
      @heathermarie1334 9 месяцев назад +10

      Gale will love you no matter what form you take. Unless you encourage him to seek the crown. Then he will abandon you regardless of what you say

  • @avynera
    @avynera 10 месяцев назад +114

    Everyone: I cannot believe who you become
    Meanwhile Astarion: Ugh, another party wasted 😂

  • @CK-lt6jl
    @CK-lt6jl 10 месяцев назад +532

    This is fantastic. I'm too lazy for multiple playthroughs, so i sincerely thank you for this! Very nice Durge designs, btw!

    • @soles2244
      @soles2244 10 месяцев назад

      All these characters look gay af lmao

  • @CelestialDraconis
    @CelestialDraconis 7 месяцев назад +23

    Shadowheart's "I won't give up on you" is so sweet 🥺

  • @junkemail585
    @junkemail585 5 месяцев назад +94

    Kudos to Wyll-he’s the only companion with the spine to put an evil durge down once he realizes what they’ve become. Everyone else is blind fr, they’ll just end up as thralls

    • @saribeepo.o5111
      @saribeepo.o5111 4 месяца назад +19

      pfft, Kudos to the guy who sold his soul to a devil, and per his own words 'never once regretted it', and then acts like everyone else should have an easy time of making the right call? Kudos to the guy that expects Durge to risk his life constantly for people who are too afraid to fight for their own damn lives, but then if he cracks against a foe that no amount of skill/cunning/strength would make him capable of walking away from (no one knows that Withers would have stepped in, if Durge doesn't reject Bhaal), well he should have just been ready to be tortured and die I guess.
      That is why Astarion is right, heroes are the problem. It's okay to be afraid for your life, and act out of fear IF AND ONLY IF the hero decides you are someone that is worthy of compassion. Other people in the same or worse circumstances the hero doesn't decide is worthy can just go screw themselves.
      (sorry Wyll

    • @dsiiic_2840
      @dsiiic_2840 3 месяца назад +38

      @@saribeepo.o5111 That was such an awful comment I think that I actually like Wyll now.

    • @RjGoombes
      @RjGoombes 2 месяца назад

      ​@@saribeepo.o5111that was a grand and roundabout way to basically admit that you're a terrible person who's parents raised terribly.

    • @Scott-ql2kx
      @Scott-ql2kx 2 месяца назад +6

      @@saribeepo.o5111 me when I'm stupid and cowardly

    • @Rajoovi1
      @Rajoovi1 2 месяца назад

      @@saribeepo.o5111 "Bait or Mental Retardation. Call it."

  • @16Vagabond
    @16Vagabond 10 месяцев назад +188

    Tav looks really heartbroken at Karlach's speech.

    • @someguyonyt2831
      @someguyonyt2831 10 месяцев назад +17

      But that's not Tav, that's Dark Urge, they're not the same. Tav is just a headcanon, self insert character. Dark Urge has story. He tied to the main plot, unlike Tav.

    • @Tallborn5
      @Tallborn5 10 месяцев назад +4

      @@someguyonyt2831 Exactly. OP also messed up in the title. It's Durge not Tav

    • @HulkVahkiin
      @HulkVahkiin 10 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@someguyonyt2831 I'm pretty sure Tav is just the name anyone gives to MC including Durge.

    • @HulkVahkiin
      @HulkVahkiin 10 месяцев назад +6

      ​@@Tallborn5 Some people just use the name Tav for the Durge to give...well a name to Durge.

    • @ladyselin35
      @ladyselin35 9 месяцев назад +10

      @@HulkVahkiin Tav and Dark urge both canon but they wont live if one survived. If Durge survived Tav is dead because Tav was investigating it. But if Tav is alive Durge is dead you even find his body.

  • @anisdiana161
    @anisdiana161 10 месяцев назад +229

    Astarion’s growl when he said “I’m with you my dear…” DARLING ISTG I WILL POUNCE ON YOU AFTER THIS FIGHT 😭😭❤️❤️❤️

    • @Isus24-s8e
      @Isus24-s8e 10 месяцев назад +30

      Our boi ready to protect us. Loved how in the beginning it's all about him surviving but at the end he can end up like this. Loves you and stays no matter what.

    • @anisdiana161
      @anisdiana161 10 месяцев назад +14

      @@Isus24-s8eAGREED! Not to undermine the other companions (Lae’zel’s intense loyalty to Tav 😭) but Astarion barely gave any excuse/reason/justification to stay with us. ❤️

    • @GigiBranconi
      @GigiBranconi 9 месяцев назад +12

      He ends up being the world's most loyal bastard if you just respect his autonomy and tell him that destroying his soul for ascension is a bad Idea

    • @saribeepo.o5111
      @saribeepo.o5111 4 месяца назад

      @@GigiBranconi pfft, don't let Laurien fool you , his soul is just fine. No one should be able to say with a straight face that it suddenly became wrong to kill those spawn just because someone managed to get something good out of what needed to happen anyway. When you really think about the non-ascension choices, killing the spawn is the most morally correct option available to the player. We aren't actually given the most morally correct option, but it makes sense because the circumstances in the game don't really allow the time for such a thing to be an available choice. So that said, if killing them is the right answer, what even are we talking about here? Why shouldn't the person who has risked so much helping to save the world, and who is also a victim, get something back when the cost of it is something that has to happen anyway? Is any one calling us evil when we loot corpses of people we had to kill because the absolute took control over them? Some of them are just as innocent as the spawn, how dare we benefit from them having to be killed?
      The truth is, someone on the team was just a little too obsessed with forcing a 'cycle of abuse' angle, and then used manipulation to try to convince players this is an evil choice, so that they could smoke and mirror us into thinking he is 'just like Cazador', when nothing could be further from the truth, objectively speaking. This garners support for their obviously flawed decision to have Tav/Durge react to Astarion the way they do in the kiss scenes and some of the dialogue options regarding their relationship. Fortunately/unfortunately, many of us see through it.

    • @TheEnmineer
      @TheEnmineer 3 месяца назад

      @@saribeepo.o5111 To be clear, the ritual does modify his soul and damns him to the lower planes. It also makes him super fucking powerful and when paired with the rest of his personality he kinda is a bit of an asshole if you get on his nerves because he thinks himself superior (to which I must say, fuck around with Bhaal's Chosen, and find out what happens).
      Depending on your moral framework, Ascending Astarion might be a moral imperative. However, without a doubt in the eyes of the Gods, it is an evil act that draws upon the infernal powers of Mephistopheles, which *will* have ramifications in the afterlife. So I guess you just have to ask yourself, is improved immortality worth being conscripted into the Blood War when you reach your final death?

  • @MortSalazar
    @MortSalazar 10 месяцев назад +72

    "Good person in there somewhere"
    Yeah... He wants to be that good person in there
    And i don't blame him because damn that's one good looking bhaalspawn.

  • @nathanizabeast
    @nathanizabeast 10 месяцев назад +18

    Asterion, your thoughts?
    Asterion: Oh? Lets hurt somebody.

  • @w47765
    @w47765 10 месяцев назад +52

    Weird considering the jerk bosses Minthara had you'd think they would have definitely included a pretty good line here for a evil durge playthrough.

  • @cas4047
    @cas4047 10 месяцев назад +94

    all of them have their heart broken :( but still love tav

  • @CYI3ERPUNK
    @CYI3ERPUNK 10 месяцев назад +51

    your companions are either 'RIDE OR DIE' or taking a page from the book of Luke Skywalker 'i still see the good in you' ; good stuff

  • @thecheck968
    @thecheck968 8 месяцев назад +21

    Lae'zel is so damn underrated. She's one of the most loyal people in the entire game, even if she is pissed at herself for it. If chaotic lawful were an alignment, that would be Lae'zel to a T

  • @arlathen
    @arlathen 10 месяцев назад +43

    love that after what Astarion said , Tav looks at her like bitch you really thought Astarion will turn against me ? lol

  • @laurenjcoates
    @laurenjcoates 8 месяцев назад +8

    The scratchiness in astarion’s voice on “my dear” is so good

  • @pipp972
    @pipp972 5 месяцев назад +7

    Props to Wyll. We need a friend willing to call us on our shit.

  • @aikonokaze
    @aikonokaze 10 месяцев назад +542

    So it looks like only Wyll fights against you then?

    • @Otto-Webb
      @Otto-Webb 10 месяцев назад +93

      Thought karlach would be against

    • @aikonokaze
      @aikonokaze 10 месяцев назад +28

      @@Otto-Webb me too. I guess maybe she only leaves if you attack the grove

    • @Otto-Webb
      @Otto-Webb 10 месяцев назад +243

      ​@@aikonokaze Its a little irritating, because almost everybody in act 1 but wyll, karlach and gale are disappointed when you do any good deeds, but on a evil run there isn't enough companions to stand by your decisions.
      Possibly vlaakith loyalist Lae'zel, shar shadowheart, and astarion, minthara, but the others have so much potential to go evil and they didnt utilise that.
      Imagine fueled by hate karlach, or wyll mad after the death of his dad turning evil.. or power hungry gale up to 10 turning into a lich.

    • @aikonokaze
      @aikonokaze 10 месяцев назад +84

      @@Otto-Webb I'm pretty sure you can keep Gale on an evil playthrough if you pass some checks, I'm not positive though since I haven't done an evil playthrough myself yet, that's just what I've read

    • @eenix0
      @eenix0 10 месяцев назад +49

      ​@@aikonokazeYeah you can, but I do still agree it's not quite the same. To keep Gale on an evil playthrough, you have to convince him that what you're doing is good. It would be fun to see a power corrupter wizard trying to become a god though hahaha

  • @claran3616
    @claran3616 10 месяцев назад +17

    1:15 Your Tav looks smug as shit here. like "yeah this is my vampire boyfriend, and we're gonna kick your ass!"

  • @Koko6lol
    @Koko6lol 7 месяцев назад +9

    The thing is that once you accept Bhaal heritage, you can't go back. You can eventually betray him in the end, but you are going to get a fate worse than death, being a mindless killing machine.
    At this point of the story you should just put Dark Urge out of his misery, if you really love him

  • @TiltedSquare4
    @TiltedSquare4 10 месяцев назад +39

    Astarion is a real ride or die and I love it ❤ im surprised Karlach stays with you tho, probably cause she got noone else but Tav. 😔 minthra probably would've gotten a kick out of you being Bhaal 😂 Wyll is the only one who leaves and Everyone else is like oh well I guess Ill stay 😂😂

  • @dragonshinobi8720
    @dragonshinobi8720 10 месяцев назад +14

    Karlach's "I know You" hit so fuckin hard oh my god

  • @nashiwinchester7644
    @nashiwinchester7644 5 месяцев назад +3

    The whole party is like you're still there I know it!
    Then Astarion is like, "Well here we go again!"

  • @bloodnangels
    @bloodnangels 10 месяцев назад +11

    Karlach is so sweet it hurts my soul

    • @molealto
      @molealto 7 месяцев назад

      Karly big red cuddly retriever puppy :3

  • @esperderek5383
    @esperderek5383 4 месяца назад +7

    The only ones that really make sense to me is Wyll being willing to fight you, and Astarion's reactions. The rest scream "Well, we can't have your entire party leave and fight you I guess." so everyone else has these limp "HOW DARE YOU EMBRACE BHAAL but i guess i'll stick around and help kill two of the greatest heroes in faerun and help you condemn the world."

  • @rustkarl
    @rustkarl 10 месяцев назад +15

    It’s almost sad if you go on like this and defy Bhaal at the end.
    Almost like how their faith in you wasn’t misplaced, that accepting Bhaal was just a means to an end in order to save everyone.
    But that goodness comes at a price, bittersweet that being the person they hope you are means you have to die. Either by your own hand, or being put down as a rampaging Bhaalspawn.

  • @jimstoesz3878
    @jimstoesz3878 7 месяцев назад +13

    Oh, so killing a dozen tieflings is completely unforgivable, but embracing my role as leader of a murderous doomsday cult is totally in-bounds? Make up your mind, Karlach!

  • @nannerfrog
    @nannerfrog 2 месяца назад +1

    the screaming cat noises in the background of the temple always crack me up

  • @renektonerinoonlyrino6773
    @renektonerinoonlyrino6773 10 месяцев назад +21

    I served Baal with the intention of well not dying..
    Everyone:" How could u, u will serve baal?! I thought u were good!!"
    Durge:"Wait guys, I am?! dafuq u want me to do? We are INSIDE HIS TEMPLE, WITH THAT SPOOKY SKELETON FACE! If I say well. nah mate not gonna serve ya daddy, he is going to ri me a new Hole where the Sun doesnt Shine, I just said that so we could leave and get a plan!"
    Everyone:"look at the Monste u have become.."
    Durge:"... So its okay for everyone else to serve a evil beeing, but when I do it, I am the asshole..."
    Astarion:"Still luv u Babe!"

  • @wafflingmean4477
    @wafflingmean4477 10 месяцев назад +28

    Oh hell yes. Jaheria died in my playthrough but from early on I thought there was going to be a moment where my companions turned on me. But Jaheria died at Last Light so they never did. I thought it was going to be me, Astarion and MAYBE Gale vs everyone. I was so surprised a situation like this never triggered.
    I'm replaying Durge now, and this time it's with Party Limit Begone (which means I should be able to keep Jaheria alive). If I have like 7 companions gang up on me at the same time, this is gonna be so damn cool.

    • @KazumaKenchi
      @KazumaKenchi 10 месяцев назад +10

      The whole camp will gang up on you if you give into the Urge to kill your lover.

    • @wafflingmean4477
      @wafflingmean4477 10 месяцев назад

      Weirdly that option never appeared for me even though I romanced someone.

    • @galaxychar
      @galaxychar 9 месяцев назад +1

      If you kill Isobel then you don’t get the lover kill scene, so nobody confronts you to this extent except for Jaheria as included in the clip. Nobody even cares when I go around murdering randos for the Bhaal rp of it all.

    • @shadowcastyt
      @shadowcastyt 2 месяца назад +1

      ⁠@@galaxychar if you kill Isobel pre gauntlet of Shar you won’t get the lover kill scene, you can spare Isobel the first time you meet her at last light, progress the game up until the Nightsong which should give you the lover scene during a rest between meeting Isobel and freeing Nightsong, after you free Nightsong you can immediately head back to last light and kill Isobel which will give you all the resist scenes, allow you to save most of last light, mostly avoid pissing off your party and give you the Slayer all in one go, with virtually no downsides to boot

  • @soldierbreed
    @soldierbreed 10 месяцев назад +30

    Astarion just got major points in my book.

  • @evelynjolly9375
    @evelynjolly9375 8 месяцев назад +2

    Companion are like we judging but we can't really judge after you save my life.

  • @tobyhardcastle6830
    @tobyhardcastle6830 4 месяца назад +1

    Wyll truly is the healthiest origin character. Bless him

  • @fetchcohen3385
    @fetchcohen3385 7 месяцев назад +2

    I really enjoy seeing peoples custom characters.

  • @coenenozzy
    @coenenozzy 6 месяцев назад +2

    I did everything as evil as I could with my Durge playthrough and I made shadowheart kill the nightsong and become Shar's chosen, and I'm not sure if it was here but she said something along the lines of "guess we both accepted our gods then"

  • @mofylover
    @mofylover 10 месяцев назад +24

    161023 that is why Astarion has my the MOST respect among everyone, he is truly loyal to his people which I find very very beautiful

  • @jeremyjealousy
    @jeremyjealousy 6 месяцев назад +1

    Seriously. the voice actors for Shadowheart and Astarion did THE BEST job!

  • @NormalCardBoardBoxes
    @NormalCardBoardBoxes 17 дней назад

    I love how Astarion basically went “Square the fuck up thots!” as he’s ready to go fight by your side! XD

  • @soggyfoot8045
    @soggyfoot8045 3 месяца назад +2

    Love how the Durge for Astarion looks eerily similar to Sebastian..

  • @oroontheheels
    @oroontheheels 5 месяцев назад +2

    In a game with such strong theme about cycle of abuse, it’s sad to see Gale, SH, Karlach and Astarion still clutching to evil!Durgre.
    (At least Astarion is preparing himself to leave as soon as Durgre looses their mind.)

  • @mikewaterfield3599
    @mikewaterfield3599 10 месяцев назад +119

    They make Bhaal too much of a madman. Chaotic Evil does not mean no rational thought. He is actually quite calculating. His worshippers are assassins. The ritual mutilation would not be his stYle. Systematic hunting and killing yes. Murdering a kid he would see as beneath him. (Not out of the question mind you) just beneath.

    • @TheGryfonclaw
      @TheGryfonclaw 10 месяцев назад +85

      That's why Orin was considered lesser that your Dark Urge, she looked for beauty in her kills when Bhaal doesn't value that.

    • @maninthemailbox6094
      @maninthemailbox6094 10 месяцев назад +53

      @@TheGryfonclaw Yep, even Saravok will say that you are the greatest of all the spawn because you just cause death no matter if its considered beautiful or not as death no matter what kind is all Bhaal really cares for

    • @AB-xe9nk
      @AB-xe9nk 10 месяцев назад +58

      It’s only presented that way because of Orin, who is by everyone’s account a pretty shit strategist and only got to where she is by stabbing Dark Urge in the back.
      The Absolute plot cooked up by Durge and Gortash was genius and would have succeeded if Orin hadn’t thrown a tantrum and gave Bhaal’s greatest creation amnesia.

    • @mikewaterfield3599
      @mikewaterfield3599 10 месяцев назад +11

      @@TheGryfonclaw she killed her mother as a child and somehow became a shapeshifter. I never did understand the doppelgänger connection to Bhaal. It was all through the first game. I wish they had kept bastard swords in fifth ed. Balduran is canonically said to have carried a bastard sword not a long blade or a great sword. In BG1 its a gold bastard sword specifically good for lycanthropes. Red Dragons are chaotic evil by nature yet incredibly calculating. Another thing i hated in fifth ed. the bias, on good vers evil. They used to be dead even. Good aligned characters and organizations used to rely on cooperation to win.
      Eh nothings perfect, Larian did far more justice to D&D than WOKE on the Coke has for the last decade.

    • @mikewaterfield3599
      @mikewaterfield3599 10 месяцев назад +6

      @@AB-xe9nk yes the absolute would totally be Banes style. He is a lord tyrant not a lord of darkness hence Zentyl Keep. That said Withers does point out that rendering many people soulless is counter productive for a god trying to regain their former power. Canonically the dead three are less than half their pre “time of troubles” power. They are on par with Finder now for crying out loud. A freaking bard with like 2 priests and six petitioners.

  • @swaggg4330
    @swaggg4330 7 месяцев назад +2

    Damn, honestly if I was playing a full evil playthrough, Karlachs speech would talk be over. 😢 almost made me shed a tear

  • @Akanint
    @Akanint Месяц назад

    Day by day, Shadowheart gets a little bit closer to becoming Sailor Iron Mouse

  • @Abimin100
    @Abimin100 10 месяцев назад +2

    and this is whyJaheira ''retires'' during the Moonrise Tower assault in my Durge runs.

  • @CreativeUsernxme
    @CreativeUsernxme 5 месяцев назад +1

    Karlach, Lae’zel and Astarion are such ride or dies

  • @Kittyintheraiyn
    @Kittyintheraiyn 5 месяцев назад +1

    Damn but all your Durges are so heckin pretty

  • @RottenHeretic
    @RottenHeretic 16 дней назад

    Everyone: "You. You. You"
    Astarion: "We :3"

  • @Maximum7077
    @Maximum7077 5 месяцев назад +1

    Gale " i can fix her " . This damn simp XD

  • @matthewbrunner3454
    @matthewbrunner3454 10 месяцев назад +4

    She didn't even try convincing my party, she just attacked with her Harpers, good thing I never leveled Jaheria past level 1, she was 1 shot lol.

    • @Oznerock
      @Oznerock 2 месяца назад

      Which is hilarious because lore-wise she's meant to be... you know like level 25 or so. Meant to just cast tsunami on our ass and be done with it.

  • @user-kv7by1vt7z
    @user-kv7by1vt7z 10 месяцев назад +48

    Astarion is the best ❤

  • @lanzer22
    @lanzer22 10 месяцев назад +1

    This is as good a fashion showcase as the dialogs. :)

  • @ladyalicent705
    @ladyalicent705 8 месяцев назад +10

    Everyone else: You broke my heart, but I know that the person I once knew is still in there!
    Astarion: Leave you? As if! Do you even have the slightest idea how much dom mom potential there is in a Bhaalspawn murder mommy? 🥺🥺🥺

  • @Noelle-qt1di
    @Noelle-qt1di 2 месяца назад

    Karlach and Gale had me in tears. They sound so hopeful yet so sad.

  • @lisdexik5484
    @lisdexik5484 7 месяцев назад +1

    I'm sorry, but in the thumbnail for this video, it looks like Wyll is trying to hide behind Lae'Zel, clutching onto her shoulders for dear life, haha.

  • @h3ll0gudbye
    @h3ll0gudbye 19 дней назад

    I accidentally accepted the gift by picking an option that was a question, thinking i could refuse it later. I was so confused when Jahiera and Minsc did this coz I had been good all through the game until that point.
    Good thing I saved before talking to pops. Who wants to inherit a shitty estate in the sewers.

  • @HeyThisIsBrian
    @HeyThisIsBrian 6 месяцев назад +1

    "Bhaal's grip"

  • @catscanhavelittleasalami
    @catscanhavelittleasalami 10 месяцев назад +1

    "I'm with you my dear" 😳😳😳

  • @Astartes-6969
    @Astartes-6969 6 месяцев назад

    I like playing Dark Urge cuz it plays into the Theme of BG3 that we are more then our past.
    I notice there's a bug theme in the Characters of this game.
    That some of them have done unspeakable things or bad things or stupid things for someone they cared about in the past or thought they cared about.
    That we can be more then the sum of our parts.

  • @annaqura3360
    @annaqura3360 9 месяцев назад +5

    YOU DID NOT DO AN ASTARION ROMANCE RUN WITH A TAV THAT LOOKS 100% LIKE SEBASTIAN!!! MY HEART! HOW COULD YOU?! TToTT I AM SHAKEN

  • @gunnamarta9096
    @gunnamarta9096 7 месяцев назад +1

    God Wyll and Karlach I'm so sorry.

  • @M0JIMA
    @M0JIMA 4 месяца назад

    everyone else: i thought you were better than this, buddy… 😢
    astarion: another day, another victory for the og 😜

  • @breakingqueengrace
    @breakingqueengrace 4 месяца назад +1

    I'd like to point out that if you pay attention to DUrge's expressions, they seem to be moved the most by Shadowheart and Karlach. Karlach's appeal especially seems to make the DUrge show genuine pained regret on her face, like she so badly wants to change her mind and resist.

  • @drakearvidsson6936
    @drakearvidsson6936 3 месяца назад

    Companions:I know there’s still good in you
    Me:Yup that’s why i’m going with bhaal i’ve been to nice for to long

  • @xlenaqz
    @xlenaqz 10 месяцев назад +2

    Oh I made them all evil before going to Orin's quest and Gale, Astarion and Shadowheart agreed with what I did. Lae'zel was dead :')

  • @yauma1098
    @yauma1098 10 месяцев назад +14

    I understand that this was due to gameplay reasons for you not to lose your party, but I cannot see Will, Karlach and Gale joining you as much as it hurts them. Asterion would join you, and Laezel and SH if you help them against their gods I believe too, but still

    • @luminozero
      @luminozero 10 месяцев назад +4

      Part of what I feel the game did worse than BG2. Not only would you have your companions leave your party if they disagreed with you, there were multiple combinations of companions that would try to kill each other if in the party together!

    • @Barricader4697
      @Barricader4697 10 месяцев назад

      I played Dark Urge and did most of the urge decisions but I did kill Jaheira, is this the dialogue if Jaheira joins you but you decide to follow Bhaal?

    • @asusaki6207
      @asusaki6207 9 месяцев назад +2

      Wyll will actually leave you, as for Karlach and Gale it's definitely sad they stick around, but considering their past and the RS you must have with them at this point it makes sense that they would try their best to fix you, somehow, refusing to give up hope.

    • @galaxychar
      @galaxychar 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@Barricader4697I did every durge complusion except for killing Minthara, and yep. Basically you have to convince her you didn’t kill Isobel if you do, recruit her and then no matter what she confronts you after the temple when you agree to be sworn to Bhaal. From my understanding if Minsc is also recruited he is there aswell.

  • @Cornberry
    @Cornberry 10 месяцев назад

    Pans to the least Dark Urge looking Dark Urge I've ever seen LOL

  • @michasokoowski6651
    @michasokoowski6651 10 месяцев назад +20

    What if you have low affinity with them?

    • @SirLordSpam
      @SirLordSpam 4 месяца назад

      pretty sure this just doesn’t happen, on my run, no one gave a shit lol

  • @zeroethics3082
    @zeroethics3082 2 месяца назад +1

    I just want to know what Rapier Wyll was using. Looks dope!

  • @danielholth
    @danielholth 9 месяцев назад +1

    Much respect for Karlach

  • @LazorJunkieninja
    @LazorJunkieninja 10 месяцев назад +5

    Mithara too busy thinking about getting those durge Bhaals

  • @rafy1111
    @rafy1111 8 дней назад

    Gale: I can fix her

  • @dajolie1
    @dajolie1 7 месяцев назад +1

    I love Gale so much. Yet in this case Astarion is goals.

  • @linuskammer3497
    @linuskammer3497 4 месяца назад

    i absolutely loved karlach from this line on, because minc, jaheira and her were my only compamions. When she and minsc left me that really hurt (they tried to kill me later). Karlach later also left me before the final battle aftwr killing gortash (but that was relatable), so i stood alone with the mindflayer also as a mindflayer and killed the elderbrain just to become a mindless bahlspuppy and kill everyone a bit later

  • @AaronQ64
    @AaronQ64 9 месяцев назад +1

    Funny I played a durge was evil as hell accepted bhaal into my heart etc.. and i didnt get any response from Wyll, LaeZel or astarion it was another day at the office for them. No clue on anyone else they all died lol

  • @gabrielbueno9806
    @gabrielbueno9806 10 месяцев назад +5

    Brother, how many Dark Urgers playthroughs have you done ?

  • @gamerdweebentertainment1616
    @gamerdweebentertainment1616 10 месяцев назад +2

    probably only happens with high relationship status... I feel like there are some effects.

  • @tharedmoon
    @tharedmoon 9 месяцев назад

    What i like about this, even if you are going the evil durge route, you didn't give shadowbae to shar. I selute you fellow gamer.