WOW. This completely knocks ALL the others out of the water. I've been wanting to put my 79 F100 351C on H2O for ages, but the systems have been so bulky. This design is the best I've seen so far. Excellent work Steve. Can't wait to see this available in a kit for vehicles. Cheers from Australia :-)
One liter a minute is not enough gas to heat a 1000 square foot house with, I don't know how much I need but I really don't think that's enough even after it is scaled up. How can I calculate how much I need to heat my house? I was thinking if I run it on demand as needed and mix the oxygen back in I should not need as much hydrogen because it will burn hotter. Hey, did you do the video of the guy in Germany or Austria who was heating his house on HHO or did you just repost someone elses video? Thanks man
Ah, the fossil fuel mess ! Fossil fuels have created more wealth and progress than any other single thing, except maybe, capitalism. It has lifted more people out of poverty than any other thing. Again except for capitalism. Everything you own and travel in , uses fossil fuels. The plastics in your cellphone, the rubber in your tires. Even your much vaunted electric cars, use massive amounts of oil in their manufacture and in their makeup. Without fossil fuel/ oil, you wouldn't have any of the modern conveniences you enjoy. Including the device with which you posted this comment. The electricity that powers that device more than likely came from fossil fuel. Unless you're using a solar panel for power. No offense intended, I just get so tired of the hypocrisy. Yea everything I use is powered or made from oil, but I'm anti oil. Okay.
how does the hydrogen move through the Ti? holes in the plate? wouldn't Ti be susceptible to embrittlement? why is the polymer platinum doped, wouldn't it be non reactive inside a polymer and could use something more conductive? why is this more efficient, I thought polymers are less conductive over water?
Hi Steve, I love this new seperator cell. Please upload the compression video quickly. I can't wait to see it. The new cell is shown begining with 02:30
Have you done any pressure tests on this particular cell yet to see what it's capable of holding. The more pressure you can get in that cell the less power it's going to consume to compress the gas using a compressor. For instance if the cell could go up to 200 PSI then that would pretty much take out a couple of stages in a multi-stage high compression compressor so it would be more efficient. Since it's a non permeable membrane you should be able to pressurize the cell much higher than the previous design. You can get a reasonably priced high pressure compressor that is used for refilling cartridges on paintball guns. You probably already thought of that.
I didn't think about paintball compressors. Thanks for the idea! The cell has been tested up to 60 psi but I don't want to blow out a membrane. They are so expensive! I'll use a compressor to get to higher pressure. I hope all is well with you Tyson.
Una maravilla realmente my friend esos nuevos generadores con electrolitos de polimeros solidos. Dios te siga dando sabiduría en tus trabajos. Muchisimas gracias por compartir. Me podrias decir como van colocadas esas placas ? Comenzando del esterior Es decir comienza con negativos o positivos,? Y al parecer no lleva placas neutrales. Es asi ? My friend
In theory, could you increase output my creating a larger surface area? Is the size you built motivated by existing plate templates for your tube electrolyzer or membrane supply size?
I saw a tube going from your hydrogen separator back to your water tank. How does that work? Is it clamped off and you have to let water drain back into the storage tank once in a while? If you just left it open, wouldn't you have trouble keeping your gases separated because of pressure differences? I'm really curious how you're doing that because I'm building something similar. I HATE how, with PEM cells, water migrates through the membrane along with protons and goes out the H2 output.
@@Hydrogen4Health I found a Chinese company selling those separators with a floater inside that seals it until the water level rises. I totally understand them now. Instead of ordering one (shipping costs about as much as the unit itself!), I decided to just run a line to a valve back to the tank. As long as I have pressure on the hydrogen side, I can transfer water back to the tank by slightly opening that valve every now and then. I usually have some pressure on the H2 side because I often fill balloons. Ehhhh, good enough for now!
Legend of the Stormlord I’m going to tell you how we did it with permeable membrane. Put a middle valve on the oxygen side for adjustment of oxygen release. Use an electrical water level float on the oxygen side to open the middle valve to let out some oxygen pressure when needed. You can build a lot of pressure and never breach the membrane using this method.
when you see the vacumn go to zero when you turn off the pump, you know that air is leaking back into the vessel. you should use air conditioning hoses that have a valve at the end and then purge using pressurized nitrogen. standard air conditioning practice.
Have you ever attempted to run this system on reverse osmosis water rather than distilled? I'm curious if that is viable, as it would be much easier to keep the system supplied with water than distillation.
Are you using fabric (Teflon) reinforced membranes in your cells? I'm curious what max theoretical pressure this can operate under (reinforced or non) without costly rupture?
@@Hydrogen4Health hi Steve very nice job can you make like a carbon cleaner machine but only hydrogen with 10 liters per minutes will be great maybe can run a 1.6 cc engine or charge an hydrogen car with that technical way. Greetings from paraguay south america
Nice new dry cell. Was wondering if gas coming off of dry cell is 99.999% pure hydrogen why do you need all of the bubblers? I get the water trap and the dyers but not the bubblers unless its just to be able to visualize the gas moving through the system. Probably a stupid question but didn’t know the answer. Thanks for the videos
What if you needed a constant rate of 3.4 lpm? Could you make a larger drycell to accommodate that? Also if you wanted to make it portable say to power your car, would you be able to use the on board alternator as a sufficient source of power? Also, can you safely compress an auxiliary amount of hydrogen for the initial start of the engine?
Hi Delvis, you've made a fantastic membrane cell, hat off! May you be interested in raising the hydrogen production of your brand new cell (1.5/2 LPM in place of the current 0.9/1.1 LPM) lowering, at the same time the power consumption to a 1/10? Say 15 Watts instead of the current 150 Watts...
Please draw a drawing for the hydrogen production because it is not clear to explain, or if it is possible to open one of the hydrogen production units and talk about it
Because there is only 4 plates with 2 gaps. It needs 2 volts per gap. I use a 5v PSU but if you put 3 of these in series it could be run off a 12v PSU.
@@Hydrogen4Health Hi, can you explain me how to convert 150 watts in 1 min = 1 liter to kwh/m3 ? This is to calculate efficiency with respect hhv or lhv Because I am confuse in the use of power which it would be watts per second over 1 min and convert that to energy by m3 My math give me that it is 2.5kwh/Nm3 which is impossible because that is lower than the hhv of h2 which is 3.54kwh/Nm3, it would be like a 142% of efficiency which is impossible.
@@Hydrogen4Health Great, I'd like to buy 1. How can I place an order? Can you provide me with the component list and directions to build a functional unit with my purchase? or is this video enough? Are there any safety concerns I need to be aware of using this for breathing and the operation in general?
This is not called a compressor. This is an accumulator that relies on the principle of electrostatic charges and electrochemical reactions. However, there are risks and inefficient. I believe that it can be used to collect certain gases but not compress them.
@@Hydrogen4Health I need a recommendation from you, I have 1 l/min flow rate from hydrogen after the PEM electrolyser and I can't find any suitable water separators or even water dryers. Could you please tell me or show me which dryer is suitable
Hey I was studing about PEM systems and I have some questions. Can you help me? Thats only one plate with positive and negative entrys of energy? The oxigen will be generated in the middle container and of course the hidrogen in the sides ones. But at the positive way have another plate between the hidrogen exit. Did I understand correctly? Do I need isolate completely the plates of the water or just seal the sides? Please if you could answer-me I will really appreciate. I'm really excited about build my own one. Ass: Mateus
@@Hydrogen4Health thanks to answer-me. I have another question: Do the membrane have rolls? Im really trying to understand this, but is really complicated. Can you show into the cell? Just a few pictures will help a lot. Sorry for my English Im from Brazil and Im not completely fluently.
so damm good project im trying starting some research on this types of separators, you produce Oxigen on the -side and hydrogen on the +side but you are make + - + - pattern and suposoly you producing H on one side and O on the other side can you explain ?
Thanks for these videos! Something doesnt add up when I do the numbers myself. You power your system with 5V*30A=150W. You make 1L/min, that's circa 0.07kg. With a Lower Heating Value of 120 MJ/kg, you would get 180W of heating power from the hydrogen you produce, while only spending 150W on producing it. How did you break that loop ;) ?
That's because his flow meter is wrong. That PEM electrolyzer he showed in this video is only two electrolytic cells in series. I think he raised the voltage a little at the end and I thought I saw the multimeter at 35 or 36 amps. Even at that amount of current, 1 LPM of H2 isn't possible. Faraday's constant is 96485 coulombs, so x2 = 192970 amp seconds for one mole. At room temp, the ideal gas is about 24L / mol (22.4 at 0C). So 192970 / 24 = 8040 amp seconds per litre. Divide that by 60 and you need 134 amps to get 1 LPM. But that is for one cell. For two cells (in his case), divide by 2 and you get 67 amps. It is IMPOSSIBLE to get 1LPM from two cells at under 67 amps. It's an exact science. In fact, you can use the reading from a built-in ammeter to determine LPM rather than using a flow meter.
@@ChristmasEve777 how much H2 you estimate an average small car would need to run on 100% H2? Here in Brazil we have cars using GNV (basically methane CH4) and the consuption is around 18M3 per hour.
The system has to run for 1 minute to produce 1 liter, so 2.5Wh = 9000J are invested. The resulting 1 liter hydrogen weights 89.6mg = about 1000J. So about 11% efficient.
Steve I'd like to buy your new machine & fill multiple tanks of gas for the winter season. My questions are will this be safe enough to store in multiple large tanks for long periods of time? & if so can I store the tanks in an underground vault during the winter season without the cold weather effecting the tanks full of gas? & would it be just as safe as heating my house from these hho tanks just as propain or natural gas does? Thanks buddy!
Can someone explain me how to convert 150 watts over 1 min = 1 liter to kwh/m3 ? This is to calculate efficiency with respect hhv or lhv Because I am confuse in the use of power which it would be watts per second over 1 min and convert that to energy by m3. My math give me that it is 2.5kwh/Nm3 which is impossible because that is lower than the hhv of h2 which is 3.54kwh/Nm3, it would be like a 142% of efficiency.
the plates are small and close together. not having potassium hydroxide in solution means its clean and allows you to ramp up the power to the cell to get more output.
You need to make sure that the hydrogen & oxygen chambers are completely encased in fortified, very dense metal or possibly centrated hemp plastics ( which can be made much stronger than steel), so that the H & O chambers are very, very hard to break or puncture in the event of direct high pressure collisions. So they don’t ever mix & explode. The cells should always be placed at the center of usage to minimize impact access, and the amount of explosive liquids made per minute should be limited to more than what is needed to run an engine non stop as in a car, truck, train, plane or possibly levitation sky vehicles. If the oxygen is not needed it should be released as exhaust.
YOU DO NOT SHOW THIS ON YOUR SITE FOR SALE?? STAINLESS HAS BEEN FOUND TO CORRODE. ONE SITE SUGGESTED GRAPHITE PLATES CHEAPER LIGHTER AND DO NOT DECAY. THE SITE WAS AN ENGLISH DUDE IN HIS SHOP CREATING SAME WITH A SCISSORS.
@@Hydrogen4Health Ohh, I fogot that you dont need electrolyte in water. I will try to make generator for pure hydrogen with elecrtolyte in water. What type of membrane you recommend?
Oh please a diagram is requered by all friends . I dont know is separed . I think exist a hole in the boton of stailes sheet .. please say to us in a easy diagram .... Thanks
WOW. This completely knocks ALL the others out of the water. I've been wanting to put my 79 F100 351C on H2O for ages, but the systems have been so bulky. This design is the best I've seen so far. Excellent work Steve. Can't wait to see this available in a kit for vehicles.
Cheers from Australia :-)
This guy has mission to impact the world. I can clearly see him succeeding.
One liter a minute is not enough gas to heat a 1000 square foot house with, I don't know how much I need but I really don't think that's enough even after it is scaled up. How can I calculate how much I need to heat my house? I was thinking if I run it on demand as needed and mix the oxygen back in I should not need as much hydrogen because it will burn hotter.
Hey, did you do the video of the guy in Germany or Austria who was heating his house on HHO or did you just repost someone elses video? Thanks man
I just love this guy....... This kind of attitude can really change this fossil fuel mess
batterys are two expensive. if you could store h2 all year for the winter you could heat your house. try doing that with batteries.
Joseph DuPont I did, they burn quite nicely. I’m just a little bit concerned about the waste and toxic fumes... you really think this was a good idea?
Ah, the fossil fuel mess ! Fossil fuels have created more wealth and progress than any other single thing, except maybe, capitalism. It has lifted more people out of poverty than any other thing. Again except for capitalism. Everything you own and travel in , uses fossil fuels. The plastics in your cellphone, the rubber in your tires. Even your much vaunted electric cars, use massive amounts of oil in their manufacture and in their makeup. Without fossil fuel/ oil, you wouldn't have any of the modern conveniences you enjoy. Including the device with which you posted this comment. The electricity that powers that device more than likely came from fossil fuel. Unless you're using a solar panel for power. No offense intended, I just get so tired of the hypocrisy. Yea everything I use is powered or made from oil, but I'm anti oil. Okay.
Awesome, much smaller and safer in the same package, and more efficient to boot.
how does the hydrogen move through the Ti? holes in the plate? wouldn't Ti be susceptible to embrittlement? why is the polymer platinum doped, wouldn't it be non reactive inside a polymer and could use something more conductive? why is this more efficient, I thought polymers are less conductive over water?
Hi Steve, I love this new seperator cell. Please upload the compression video quickly. I can't wait to see it. The new cell is shown begining with 02:30
Have you done any pressure tests on this particular cell yet to see what it's capable of holding. The more pressure you can get in that cell the less power it's going to consume to compress the gas using a compressor. For instance if the cell could go up to 200 PSI then that would pretty much take out a couple of stages in a multi-stage high compression compressor so it would be more efficient. Since it's a non permeable membrane you should be able to pressurize the cell much higher than the previous design.
You can get a reasonably priced high pressure compressor that is used for refilling cartridges on paintball guns. You probably already thought of that.
I didn't think about paintball compressors. Thanks for the idea! The cell has been tested up to 60 psi but I don't want to blow out a membrane. They are so expensive! I'll use a compressor to get to higher pressure. I hope all is well with you Tyson.
Great job! is the Alicat calibrated for hydrogen gas? I suppose you're not going to share details about membrane etc. Are you using Nafion?
Yes it's Nafion 117 and yes the Alicat is setup for hydrogen
@@Hydrogen4Health have you looked at any of the Nafion alternatives?
Hey Steve on that power supply do you know if they could make one that's 2 volts DC?
I think the smallest is 3v but it might be able to turn down to 2v. Checkout Meanwell supplies.
Pls tell cost of this PEM membrane & do you supply in India as well?
this is for revard! you made excelent work
Una maravilla realmente my friend esos nuevos generadores con electrolitos de polimeros solidos.
Dios te siga dando sabiduría en tus trabajos.
Muchisimas gracias por compartir.
Me podrias decir como van colocadas esas placas ?
Comenzando del esterior
Es decir comienza con negativos o positivos,?
Y al parecer no lleva placas neutrales. Es asi ?
My friend
I don't get the idea of the second bubbler. And why aren't you catching and compressing the o2? The system seems way overcomplicated to me.
In theory, could you increase output my creating a larger surface area?
Is the size you built motivated by existing plate templates for your tube electrolyzer or membrane supply size?
How many kilograms is the one liter that device creates? When you buy hydrogen, you buy it in mass, not volume.
I saw a tube going from your hydrogen separator back to your water tank. How does that work? Is it clamped off and you have to let water drain back into the storage tank once in a while? If you just left it open, wouldn't you have trouble keeping your gases separated because of pressure differences? I'm really curious how you're doing that because I'm building something similar. I HATE how, with PEM cells, water migrates through the membrane along with protons and goes out the H2 output.
The membrane is non permeable so the gasses can never commingle. Water does not go through the membrane, it is created on the anode side.
@@Hydrogen4Health I found a Chinese company selling those separators with a floater inside that seals it until the water level rises. I totally understand them now. Instead of ordering one (shipping costs about as much as the unit itself!), I decided to just run a line to a valve back to the tank. As long as I have pressure on the hydrogen side, I can transfer water back to the tank by slightly opening that valve every now and then. I usually have some pressure on the H2 side because I often fill balloons. Ehhhh, good enough for now!
Legend of the Stormlord I’m going to tell you how we did it with permeable membrane.
Put a middle valve on the oxygen side for adjustment of oxygen release. Use an electrical water level float on the oxygen side to open the middle valve to let out some oxygen pressure when needed.
You can build a lot of pressure and never breach the membrane using this method.
when you see the vacumn go to zero when you turn off the pump, you know that air is leaking back into the vessel. you should use air conditioning hoses that have a valve at the end and then purge using pressurized nitrogen. standard air conditioning practice.
Have you ever attempted to run this system on reverse osmosis water rather than distilled? I'm curious if that is viable, as it would be much easier to keep the system supplied with water than distillation.
Everything looks neat, what is yield?
How quickly do the plates oxidize?
Nice work Steve! All that hard work does pay off. Where can I find the solid elite membrane?
Will this work as a fuel cell also ?
Specifically, If you pump Hydrogen into one side and Oxygen in the other will it make electricity?
It will but not very well. It's not designed as a fuel cell.
hi
what's the size of the membranes and how much do they cost to replace ? and how long can this cell be on for continuously?
Bob Lazar looked like his system would be the best to go with
Are you using fabric (Teflon) reinforced membranes in your cells? I'm curious what max theoretical pressure this can operate under (reinforced or non) without costly rupture?
These membranes are not reinforced. It is sandwiched between 2 titanium disks for strength.
@@Hydrogen4Health hi Steve very nice job can you make like a carbon cleaner machine but only hydrogen with 10 liters per minutes will be great maybe can run a 1.6 cc engine or charge an hydrogen car with that technical way. Greetings from paraguay south america
You built the pem cell by yourself ?
Great setup! Could you post a blueprint/exploded diagram of the generator. Thanks
How to obtain this? Isn't available on the website.
Nice new dry cell. Was wondering if gas coming off of dry cell is 99.999% pure hydrogen why do you need all of the bubblers? I get the water trap and the dyers but not the bubblers unless its just to be able to visualize the gas moving through the system. Probably a stupid question but didn’t know the answer. Thanks for the videos
Michael Foster yes it’s for the video so people can see the gas.
Is the compressor empty for oxygen? And how often do you have to add water and electrolyte in the hydro tube to keep the production going?
Can this cell be modified for use in Vanadium Redox Flow Battery setup?
Excellent work! I would love to build one of these. What is the membrane made from?
Pem
Have you made other improvements since?
will you be including the cell into a complete unit or just be selling the cell only?
The goal in the near future is to have the cell available and at the completion of this series to have a full system available.
@@Hydrogen4Health my friend
Como va el trabajo ? Lo has finalizado? Si es asi a como van a salir un generador como el q muestras?
Please
What if you needed a constant rate of 3.4 lpm?
Could you make a larger drycell to accommodate that?
Also if you wanted to make it portable say to power your car, would you be able to use the on board alternator as a sufficient source of power?
Also, can you safely compress an auxiliary amount of hydrogen for the initial start of the engine?
Yes you could use hydrogen to power a car but NO you can't get a bunch of alternators to power the cells. That's perpetual motion.
carry an extra battery or two.
Where did you buy the PEM layer from?
Hi Delvis, you've made a fantastic membrane cell, hat off! May you be interested in raising the hydrogen production of your brand new cell (1.5/2 LPM in place of the current 0.9/1.1 LPM) lowering, at the same time the power consumption to a 1/10? Say 15 Watts instead of the current 150 Watts...
really interested in the build of the cell, the seperator material. Been experimenting myself, and following you for 5 years.
Ive used nylon sheets for sepeator also 3dprint a seperator but have not seennor heard of this membrane can you leave a spec link for the membrane plz
@@doc_ineeda_win5834 its dupont and platinum impregnated.. only one product such as that I believe.
@@jreamer0 PEM
Platnumbbbb
Thanks for showing that nano bubble nozzle man! Where did you buy from? And how much did you pay for it?
Please draw a drawing for the hydrogen production because it is not clear to explain, or if it is possible to open one of the hydrogen production units and talk about it
I am very interested!!! I want to buy one. Nice job! Just a thought, why not run it on 12 volts? Cut the amps in half..?
Because there is only 4 plates with 2 gaps. It needs 2 volts per gap. I use a 5v PSU but if you put 3 of these in series it could be run off a 12v PSU.
@@Hydrogen4Health Hi, can you explain me how to convert 150 watts in 1 min = 1 liter to kwh/m3 ?
This is to calculate efficiency with respect hhv or lhv
Because I am confuse in the use of power which it would be watts per second over 1 min and convert that to energy by m3
My math give me that it is 2.5kwh/Nm3 which is impossible because that is lower than the hhv of h2 which is 3.54kwh/Nm3, it would be like a 142% of efficiency which is impossible.
@@AngelLestat2 interesante opinion,
Did you have try to use this shell in oposite direction? (FEED H2 and AIR to take electricity and water)
I haven't tried that yet but it would be a good experiment.
@@Hydrogen4Health Happy New Year!Thank you for your time!
Do you sell these PEM cells or have instructions on how to make them please?
Did you get a source for the cell
Looks fantastic! Is this gas suitable for breathing? What is the concentration of hydrogen coming out of this unit? How close is it to being released?
Hello and yes you can use it for breathing. The purity is 99.99%. It is available now by request while our site is still being built. Price is $950.
@@Hydrogen4Health Great, I'd like to buy 1. How can I place an order? Can you provide me with the component list and directions to build a functional unit with my purchase? or is this video enough?
Are there any safety concerns I need to be aware of using this for breathing and the operation in general?
Please contact me at info@hydrogen4health.com I'd be glad to help you.
@@Hydrogen4Health OK good. How can I get an order going for one?
@@scottmoncrieff6049 contact me at info@hydrogen4health.com I'll send you a link to order one after you email me.
Have you tried storing hydrogen in chicken feather carbon or other types of carbon?
No Have not tried that or even heard of it.
Telat..saya baru tahu sebulan yang lalu tentang PEM?? Anda sdah membuat videonya 3 tahun yang lalu..
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This is not called a compressor. This is an accumulator that relies on the principle of electrostatic charges and electrochemical reactions. However, there are risks and inefficient. I believe that it can be used to collect certain gases but not compress them.
Brother it's all awesome, but how dose the separation work on the inside can you show the details of the inner working separation
What makes these cell modules last only 5 years? What goes out on them?
Molto interessante..però con 5 volt & 30 amp la cella scalda molto ??
Be careful about pressure differenzes at kathode an anode side. Also reservoir should be never goes empty.
Liked and subbed, magic stuff mate. Really interesting to see what you use your gas for. Thanks.
Is there a ready-made condensor that can be connected to dry the hydrogen? (rather than running it through the granules, as in another video)
How long can it function?
looks perfect...what kind of membrane is in it?
have a question about the dryer, have you used a dryer for the hydrogen. I need to set up a facility and the HYDROGEN PURITY MUST be 99,999
Yes you must use a dryer to get .999 purity.
@@Hydrogen4Health I need a recommendation from you, I have 1 l/min flow rate from hydrogen after the PEM electrolyser and I can't find any suitable water separators or even water dryers. Could you please tell me or show me which dryer is suitable
Hey
I was studing about PEM systems and I have some questions. Can you help me?
Thats only one plate with positive and negative entrys of energy? The oxigen will be generated in the middle container and of course the hidrogen in the sides ones. But at the positive way have another plate between the hidrogen exit. Did I understand correctly? Do I need isolate completely the plates of the water or just seal the sides?
Please if you could answer-me I will really appreciate. I'm really excited about build my own one.
Ass: Mateus
I don't completely understand your question but I think that yes you need to isolate the hydrogen sides so that no oxygen can get into it.
@@Hydrogen4Health thanks to answer-me. I have another question: Do the membrane have rolls? Im really trying to understand this, but is really complicated. Can you show into the cell? Just a few pictures will help a lot.
Sorry for my English Im from Brazil and Im not completely fluently.
@@lore1786 Sorry I can't show you anything.
there is a way to condition the water to have a more hho production you have to know a special procese
how do you measure current with clamp on meter with out being in line is the voltage ac or dc
thank captain, your a hero... am going to build power and food setup.
so damm good project im trying starting some research on this types of separators, you produce Oxigen on the -side and hydrogen on the +side but you are make + - + - pattern and suposoly you producing H on one side and O on the other side can you explain ?
No the Oxygen is made on the plates closest to the center of the cell. The hydrogen is made on the outside plate. It's wired +-+-
Hello, may you use pt coated titanium porous material in pem fuel cell?
Are these available for vehicles and if so are they on your site? thank you
No not for awhile.
Thanks for these videos! Something doesnt add up when I do the numbers myself. You power your system with 5V*30A=150W. You make 1L/min, that's circa 0.07kg. With a Lower Heating Value of 120 MJ/kg, you would get 180W of heating power from the hydrogen you produce, while only spending 150W on producing it. How did you break that loop ;) ?
The man pretty much invented free energy xD.
That's because his flow meter is wrong. That PEM electrolyzer he showed in this video is only two electrolytic cells in series. I think he raised the voltage a little at the end and I thought I saw the multimeter at 35 or 36 amps. Even at that amount of current, 1 LPM of H2 isn't possible. Faraday's constant is 96485 coulombs, so x2 = 192970 amp seconds for one mole. At room temp, the ideal gas is about 24L / mol (22.4 at 0C). So 192970 / 24 = 8040 amp seconds per litre. Divide that by 60 and you need 134 amps to get 1 LPM. But that is for one cell. For two cells (in his case), divide by 2 and you get 67 amps. It is IMPOSSIBLE to get 1LPM from two cells at under 67 amps. It's an exact science. In fact, you can use the reading from a built-in ammeter to determine LPM rather than using a flow meter.
@@ChristmasEve777 how much H2 you estimate an average small car would need to run on 100% H2? Here in Brazil we have cars using GNV (basically methane CH4) and the consuption is around 18M3 per hour.
The system has to run for 1 minute to produce 1 liter, so 2.5Wh = 9000J are invested. The resulting 1 liter hydrogen weights 89.6mg = about 1000J. So about 11% efficient.
congratulations
That's awesome! Nice job!
what does this unit cost including stages of production.
what's with the background noise?
I think it's nice of compressor..
can't wait to buy one.
cool tools.
Good job! Persistence:)
Steve I'd like to buy your new machine & fill multiple tanks of gas for the winter season.
My questions are will this be safe enough to store in multiple large tanks for long periods of time? & if so can I store the tanks in an underground vault during the winter season without the cold weather effecting the tanks full of gas? & would it be just as safe as heating my house from these hho tanks just as propain or natural gas does? Thanks buddy!
Also how much electricity electricityis used to produce that .5 to 1liter/minute?
Sure it should be safe to use. Hydrogen will leak out the pores through steel. The tanks must be vacuumed out before you fill. Oxygen is deadly.
200 watts
Thank you man & yes I saw your other videos. I apreciate your work!
Can someone explain me how to convert 150 watts over 1 min = 1 liter to kwh/m3 ?
This is to calculate efficiency with respect hhv or lhv
Because I am confuse in the use of power which it would be watts per second over 1 min and convert that to energy by m3.
My math give me that it is 2.5kwh/Nm3 which is impossible because that is lower than the hhv of h2 which is 3.54kwh/Nm3, it would be like a 142% of efficiency.
the plates are small and close together. not having potassium hydroxide in solution means its clean and allows you to ramp up the power to the cell to get more output.
27A is big current 🤔 big current require to run the cell
and type of hydrogen generator uses pure water ?
Delvis can you tell me who makes the silver box controller voltage controller interested in getting one
Meanwell
thank you
Please provide a procurement list with recommended suppliers and a set of sketches to build the unit
not possible.
So how do get to use setup on my drone to give me 2kwatt of power
Good work
so if you run the gas back through does it create a voltage (plus water)?
how are you getting current to flow thru distilled water?
Platinum catalyst on the membrane.
You need to make sure that the hydrogen & oxygen chambers are completely encased in fortified, very dense metal or possibly centrated hemp plastics ( which can be made much stronger than steel), so that the H & O chambers are very, very hard to break or puncture in the event of direct high pressure collisions. So they don’t ever mix & explode. The cells should always be placed at the center of usage to minimize impact access, and the amount of explosive liquids made per minute should be limited to more than what is needed to run an engine non stop as in a car, truck, train, plane or possibly levitation sky vehicles. If the oxygen is not needed it should be released as exhaust.
I have absolutely no idea what your just said...but thanks for the comment.
i want to purchase. are you selling ...?
Me too let us help each other... thank you
You can buy them here. www.greenfuelh2o.com/product/pem-h2-generator-99-95-pure/
If out of stock we can have one ready for you within 2 weeks.
how much cost for one of you new cells ? put in my truck .
Is there any possibility to see it’s guts? I would want a way bigger cell. Is it powered with 12v or 2?
YOU DO NOT SHOW THIS ON YOUR SITE FOR SALE?? STAINLESS HAS BEEN FOUND TO CORRODE. ONE SITE SUGGESTED GRAPHITE PLATES CHEAPER LIGHTER AND DO NOT DECAY. THE SITE WAS AN ENGLISH DUDE IN HIS SHOP CREATING SAME WITH A SCISSORS.
What do you concider a good photon exchange membrane??
DuPont 117
@@Hydrogen4Health Thank you very much 😉👍
My name is actually Frederick.
Thanks again.👍
Can it be run in reverse as a fuel cell?
That has not been tried but I'll do a video on it.
Is now ready for sale?
What's the cost for something like this???
They are available here: www.greenfuelh2o.com/product/pem-h2-generator-99-95-pure/
Great videos,subscribes afret 3 min. Can you tel me why you connect negative plates with bolt?
The bolt is used to connect the plates so all have power.
@@Hydrogen4Health Ohh, I fogot that you dont need electrolyte in water.
I will try to make generator for pure hydrogen with elecrtolyte in water. What type of membrane you recommend?
Oh please a diagram is requered by all friends . I dont know is separed . I think exist a hole in the boton of stailes sheet .. please say to us in a easy diagram .... Thanks
So what is this all about?
where can I purchase that water separator and hydrogen dryer?
www.greenfuelh2o.com
talk more about the membrane
Question. Is that perfluorosulfonoc acid solid polymer film?
how much for each cell?
Did you get a price...from where to buy the cell manager@pecojo.com
Thank you SIR
How long does the new HHO Generator last?
%+ years
@@Hydrogen4Health Did you say 5 years?
@@kentharris7427 Lol yeah it's 5+ years.
Could u show a little on the build of the cell?