New in Ableton Live 12: Performance Pack by Iftah - Game Changers
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
- Four incredible Max for Live devices are included in the Performance Pack by Iftah, which is part of the Ableton Live 12 Suite. All of them are intended to make using Live for live performance simpler, more intuitive, and hands-free. In this tutorial, we will examine Performer, Variations, Prearranger, and Arrangement Looper in detail.
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00:00 Intro
00:32 Performer
06:13 Variations
11:57 Prearranger
15:52 Arrangement Looper
17:42 Outro
Oh snap! These are some cool new features!! Thanks for this awesome video, as always!
My pleasure!
Wow. Das ist einfach großartig. DANKE vielmals fürs Vorstellen.
Habe schon 100 Ideen meine Livesets neu zu gestalten.
Das freut mich. Hab auch total Lust, lieber Variations in mein Live Set einzubauen als zu arbeiten... Weihnachten hab ich endlich viel Zeit.😅
Powerful stuff. Great overview thanks.
Variations looks great! Im looking forward to try it out when Live 12 is released.
Thanks for all the continued Live 12 videos Madeleine, they are really fantastic!
Thank you. My pleasure!
Thanks so much for this video! These features are all super exciting to me, more so than the ones that are getting all the attention. Thanks for focusing on them! I am *so stoked* for both Performer and Variations. 😁
My pleasure. I feel the same about what gets most of the attention vs. what excites me.
I agree with you that Variation is very useful, #1 for me is to set a snapshot of the beginning of my live set, so that even after I have played and changed all the device settings during soundcheck, I can get a clean start to the set when the show starts - to avoid my common mistake of leaving the Auto Filter or Gain all the way down and everything is silent!
Yes, I've been having something like this for over a decade now in my live sets. I call it 'total recall'. First done with Kapture, then with ClyphX (Pro). With Variations, it's going to be easier to set up though than with Clyph X. I do a lot of live looping and having something that can change settings (arm tracks, set volume levels etc.) makes things less cumbersome. It's too many things to remember otherwise to be truly in the performance to be enjoyed by the audience and me.
Finally! Being a Clyphx user since the beginning just can't live without it. Btw Stray the founder and developer of NativeKontrol (the primordials of Clyphx) went working for Ableton a couple years ago so i was kind of expecting something like this @@sonicbloomtuts
Oh wow, this didn't get lot of coverage but this is next level! Thanks for going over this
Glad you enjoyed it!
thank you great info!
My pleasure!
I was curious about these,, thanks for showing. I was thinking / hoping the looper was something like Frippertronics, but it is interesting like this as well. :-)
Yes, I'd hoped it'd be a bit more as well. Variations fully make up for it though for me.
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I missed something like the ZenAudio ALK2 defunct DAW but the PreArranger seems to sovle that, very nice! Can't wait to try Live 12.
Question about the pre-arranger: if you set multiple record clips in the same track, can you play one of the first recordings instead of always the last recording? Is it somethnig like the clip names tells the tool which record clip is associated with which "playing" clip?
Yes, it's clip name numbering plus the position in the Arrangement View.
@@sonicbloomtutsCool! Thanks for confirming!
excited for these. are they only for live 12?
Yes, and you will need Suite or Live 12 with Max for Live to use them. Not sure if Ableton will still offer Max for Live outside of Suite.
Great!!!! Got access to the beta today YEAH!!! So I can play with it and check these tools 😀
Have fun!
Any clue where to find the pack??? Can't find the download option. Or is it still available just for certain testers?@@sonicbloomtuts
how come I can't map a slider to the crossfader? Everytime I try nothing happens.
With the Performer you can build a fader that lowers or raises all line faders with the same level (Cubase)
Yes, and lots of other things, too. :)
Hi Madeleine, great presentation as always. I use ClyphX in session view from my Live set. From watching this video, it seems to suggest I could abandon much of the scripting for these tools. So many scripts to perform track selection with device arming, etc. I do a great deal of live looping with my guitar and preconfigure drum racks that are also looped. From what I'm seeing, it seems like I could move into arrangement view for the live set. And there are some advantages to that IMO - automation in general just gets easier (visually). Out of curiosity, how is this going to change your own Live set? Are you using Session or Arrangement view. I've always been in Session myself using ClyphX since Live 10.
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I will likely replace a lot of what I did with ClyphX with Variations. I don't think I will move into the Arrangement View though. Tbh, I haven't had much time to see how the devices from the Performance Pack could be implemented well. I will start doing this from early to mid March as I need to prepare for a concert in May. I'm the Variations device will feature quite heavily, perhaps Performer as well. The other two likely not.
I agree, Variations is incredible. I'll just have to try things out and see fits best. I'd love to see a video of your live setup once you have your updates in place. I find it incredibly useful to see how others use Ableton as a performance tool. With it being so modular, it's fascinating how unique the configuration can be performer to performer. I took Anthony's course at Seed to Stage and Daniel Mintseris class on his live show for St. Vincent. Both very eye opening. Plus, I really enjoy your work. Thanks for taking the time to reply.
Awesome Madeline. Do you happen to know if Variations will be visible and accessible in Push 3 Standalone? That would be so helpful
I don't know. I will have a Push 3 Standalone in a week or two though and can let you know then. Would love to have the answer to this myself.
Ah that’s great. Yes would love to know. It will be really make a difference
@@sonicbloomtuts Finally, what can it be controlled from the Push 3 Standalone? I hope the performer and the variations devices. Thanks.
Great videos ! thanks !
Variation seem to don't be able to control A/B crossfader, is it right ???
Tbh I haven't tested that, since I don't really use this feasture. Likely not.
amazing video!
One question - For Prearranger plugin it is possible to record more than one track at the same time ?
Yes, that's possible. Just create the tracks with the device. I haven't tested how well the arming works with multiple tracks, but it should work. If not, there's the possibility to make a clip with the command (all explained in the device itself), so you still don't have to take care of it when you want to record.
Thank you very much for your answer
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another question - Did you know if it is possible to recreate this plugin for ableton 11 or 10 ?
Can the mapping be saved in the perfrormer device as a preset or will it have to be manually mapped in every new project I want to use it?
You'd have to map anew with every new project since the Live Set might have very different tracks and devices etc. What works though is to create a Live Set and save it as a template. Then all the mappings are present, both from the controller to Performer as well as the MIDI mappings in Live itself.
wondering if this works for push 3 standalone? so excited!
It might, but I haven't tried it. I'm going to ask Matt, who commented here as well and who worked on the devices with Iftah.
these look very interesting! does Performer allow you to launch selected clip an armed track - so record a clip at selected position? I'm trying to get a midi footswitch to do this so I can record clips on guitar where I dont' have a hand free. I guess I'll have to wait until they let me into Beta so I can have a look
I think you mean Prearranger as Performer is for the controller layout. In Arrangement View, yes. Not in Session View if that's what you were asking. Although it does record a clip in SV as well.
@@sonicbloomtuts I mentioned Performer as i was wondering if I could make a controller layout that i could assign that function to. but yes, prearranger might be the way to go. thank you! I'll have a look once I get my hands on 12
@@spookydirt Ah, I see. Yes, you can map Performer controls to anything in Live that is MIDI mappable. So you could also combine these Max for Live devices. If you want to record in Session View, you could use Performer plus Variations linked to clips/scenes that arm a track and start recording in a clip slot.
@3:45 the drop down has a selector for MIDI note so I assume that the answer is "yes". I hope so, anyways! And maybe you can even chance the range of the knob so different knob ranges will trigger different notes. Could be very cool for a sidechained noise on a gate or whatever. I also wonder if the toggle buttons will trigger MIDI notes for basic clip launching but I assume they can.
@jasonzdora I don't think the different ranges for different MIDI notes will work. The toggle button could trigger MIDI notes, because you can just map it to anything you want.
Is this available for those on the Live 12 beta testing? I'm on it and I'd love to try them.
Yes, you should be able to get it in Centercode under Live 12 > Alpha Releases, unless you've got no access to that part.
@medenine4828 It's now under Beta Releases in Centercode.
Hi!! Thank you for the vidéo. I also have access to Live 12 beta but I do not find the Performance Pack. Didi you do something to make it appear?
I'm an Ableton Certified Trainer, so I got access to the alpha release already. You should see it under Live 12 Beta Releases in Centercode now though.
@@sonicbloomtuts thanks for the answer. I already looked here. may be only accessible for alpha release.
@@sonicbloomtuts For others, ableton just added it 4 hours ago in the page you said !!!
Hey M, you don’t need to use User Mode to control the Performer. There is a built in Push Bank editor and by default, when the device is in focus, the first 8 controls are mapped to the 8 knobs. User Mode might be helpful I guess if you want to “lock” 8 knobs to Performer but then you loose a lot of Push native functions
Ah, perfect. I either I overlooked it back then or maybe it was added later. Either way, thanks for adding this useful info. Btw, does the pack work on Push 3 Standalone?
Yep but you have to map on the computer@@sonicbloomtuts
Does variations go on the master bus?
I think this is where it fits best.
Performance Pack is now available to Live 12 Beta users.
Thanks for letting me know. Have fun with it!
Performance pack is not available in my Ableton account. How to get it ? (I am beta testing Live 12)
Have you checked under Beta Releases in Centercode? That's where it should be.
Does the variations seem buggy at all?
Especially when setting them up in session view then trying to record to arrangement view I found sometimes that the variations wouldn't trigger. It would often turn a lot of mixer settings on that I didn't want to change even when I specified not too.
It seemed a bit to risky to use in a live set but maybe I've set it up wrong. It's amazing idea.has anyone else had any issues with it at all?
I haven't had any issues. I haven't tried them in a while though, and both the pack and Live have been updated several times, so I couldn't say.
@@sonicbloomtuts great thanks will try again, I'm sure it's user error. Woukd be great if you could do a video on it explaining how you would use it in a live set up. Love yours vids :-)
@@sonicbloomtuts I'm working on getting a live set together and will post something soon. Using a some of the new performance pack features and push 3 standalone.
Too bad with Performer renaming the controller doesn't show on the Push2. It just keeps saying Control 01, Control 02, etc.
I'm not certain, but this could be a Max thing.
I love your accent
Thanks. 😄
Interpolation and/or slew between variations. Mira compatibility.
Is that your wish list?
Performance control looks like repurposed OSCiLLOT editor! Which is awesome
No Max for Cats involvement afaik.
@@sonicbloomtuts true! Maybe just some styling . I def want more max4cats and creative extensions stuff next year!
Googled "OSCiLLOT" and got a website with a cat trying to jump over a fence. I thought I was in the right place since Mel mentioned Max for Cats. Turns out its a fence company.
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nice tools. . . thx .. .
-Live device named Variation helps I full agry ... the ClyphX update to V12 can take very long.time to come out ....V11 is landed this spring...
p.s. cool the M4l devices overall , looks promising, looks like Live find time and devs. that goes deeper put more time & effort in
...bigger proposals enhanced features rich devices. . .love it....
p.p.s. a showcase of all the updates on the Suite Audio & Midi M4l devices would be cool...
thx.....thx.....
Yes, I know it took forever for ClyphX Pro. The original dev now works full time for Ableton and didn't have time, so others took over in their spare time. There's always been a branch off the old free ClyphX though that had been working. At least for the features I'd tried. I think Variations might actually replace it for me, but I'll have to dig deeper to see if it does everything I'd want.
I'll take your request under consideration, but these videos take a long time to make.
@@sonicbloomtutsif I’m not mistaken, live 11 involved an upgrade to python 3. Clyphx is written in python, but the python 3 runtime should mostly be backward-compatible to run python 2 source code.. so it shouldn’t have been a big deal, unless the Live model (the LOM) had a different API. I think that this was the cause for delays with clyphx in live 11.. 🤷😊
@@EannaButler Yes, Python 3 was added in Live 11. I'm not sure what the issue exactly was with ClyphX Pro. I asked, but didn't get a reply. I think mainly that the dev had zero time himself, so others had to jump in and that in their spare time. Here's the free ClyphX that was updated for Live 11 much, much faster: github.com/ldrolez/clyphx-live11
It offers less features than the Pro version, which had been rewritten from the ground up. Some commands are not the same because of this. Since I never had much time for live stuff once the Pro version came out, I actually feel more comfortable with the free one. Even though I have Pro as well.
Variations is more immediate if you need to make changes than ClyphX, which has always been a point of contention for me. You can sink in so much time sorting out a live performance setup. With Variations, when you realise you missed changing parameters, you make them, then resave the variation. Done.
what theme is this??
hmm. i realize it's twenty-four carat - what's the color palette you used for your tracks? it fits really nicely
it almost feels like film
@@charltonphan Yes, Twenty-Four Carat with 200% Brightness. I just choose track colours. I have the automatic track colour setting turned off and the default set to dark grey as I have synaesthesia (seeing colours for sounds). For my videos I generally choose colours that fit with the Sonic Bloom colour scheme.
I wish the midi mapping actually worked in performer.
It certainly works now. And it worked whenever I tried it. I guess that it must have been a bug in an update for a short time.
Didn't really get the usefulness of prearranger
It's more for people who want to do live recordings in the Arrangement View, either on stage or also in the studio, and be hands free. It's quite a specific use case not everyone will find helpful.