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  • @Callum2302
    @Callum2302 2 года назад +165

    Friendship ended with "Gwen is Immune", now "Olaf is Immune" is my best friend.

  • @drkrn
    @drkrn 2 года назад +199

    Swain's changes: Aigh kinda cool, the ult looks op but you take away from the passive and q so I guess it's fine.
    Olaf changes: ODIN HAS CALLED, TIME TO RAID THEM SAXONS MIN VEN

    • @brosephstinson1297
      @brosephstinson1297 2 года назад +7

      Lonely darius toplane: "Huh, why do I hear Sabaton music?"
      Olaf axe hitting darius out of a brush as he ults and annihilates him: "AS THE FIRE INSIDE, IS INGNITED BY BLOODSHED, IN BERSERKERS FROM NOOOOOOOORTH"

  • @TheGeneralMod
    @TheGeneralMod 2 года назад +349

    Swain is 1 of the more unique and cool human character model in League....Thank God his going back into solo lane.

    • @core4090
      @core4090 2 года назад +16

      i guess u arent a swain main, and havent noticed what happens when u spam taunt

    • @tomwanders6022
      @tomwanders6022 2 года назад +1

      @@core4090 he used to be in my top 5 what does happen?

    • @TheGRAclan
      @TheGRAclan 2 года назад +3

      Guarantee he'll be a top 5 botlaner

    • @joshgant3921
      @joshgant3921 2 года назад

      @@tomwanders6022 …

    • @leosippola5874
      @leosippola5874 2 года назад

      @@core4090 have u seen what swain does when u spam ctrl + 3 ;)

  • @austinfoote1919
    @austinfoote1919 2 года назад +361

    As a season 10-11 Olaf main as soon as I saw the Q changes (especially mana) I knew top Olaf would be better. Since his LvL 1 attack speed is nerfed and he heals now from them his clear won’t be anywhere near effective. However what is any tank supposed to do when he hits Bork presses R perma slows you shreds 30% armor and you can’t CC him because once he’s on top of you his ult is indefinite. Olaf is turbo broken

    • @pandalubben415
      @pandalubben415 2 года назад +1

      @qeuarfbhq3iwushbq did it not last for 3 sec( How long does zhonyas last)

    • @gianfrancomartinelli9111
      @gianfrancomartinelli9111 2 года назад +11

      You're forgetting that now his q completely resets as soon as you pick it up. That's going to make his clear insane, and there's no mana problems in the jungle.

    • @firelaf1284
      @firelaf1284 2 года назад +2

      You're missing the part where he get's his q refunded instead of reduced. If you have blue buff you can clear even faster now because before you had to wait at least like a second before you could throw it again. Now you can just spam it if you angle yourself correctly.

    • @SUCUBUS074
      @SUCUBUS074 2 года назад +1

      @qeuarfbhq3iwushbq yea, but you can just attack something else if in proximity, because it doesn't state it works only on champs. I feel like fimbulwinter can become a thing on Olaf, because you can spam Q with huge manapool and W shield scales with missing hp. Wouldn't be surprised to see something like -> Shieldbow, Navori, Fimbulwinter + zeal item and then like botrk. You can probably get W CD to 6s and with navori reduction, you can probably use it consistently every 3 secs, which will be honestly pretty strong. 250 base + 25% of missing HP (let's assume you have 3k max and you're at 1k) = +500, so that will be 750 shield every 3 secs + shield from fimbul + shieldbow. And you car run flash ghost in top, so you stick to people. Idk, seems crazy in my head.

    • @vaibhavbhasker2579
      @vaibhavbhasker2579 2 года назад +2

      Just gonna perma ban him, till riot nerfs him after releasing a skin or two BASED

  • @revenantmuffin4730
    @revenantmuffin4730 2 года назад +337

    Joe giving us all the angles and every perspective while LS does the same. Excellent! Also, I love how people ragged on Olaf for such a long time in pro play and now he is being giga buffed. Renekton and Morde turbo buffs when?

    • @bkapps19
      @bkapps19 2 года назад +3

      Lol I dont think a buff will be enough for Morde

    • @Geheimnis-c2e
      @Geheimnis-c2e 2 года назад +1

      Olaf is just a REALLY fast clearer though. With an enabler, it's almost cheating.

    • @Tynine
      @Tynine 2 года назад

      Man I already cant fight Morde after 6,
      how do you go against him to mention a buff?

    • @Dethsoul
      @Dethsoul 2 года назад

      @@Tynine invest in QSS

    • @Starshotmayhem
      @Starshotmayhem 2 года назад +1

      @@Tynine If you're not using champions that have interactions, you're probably not giving yourself a winning chance vs many laners anyway. Darius, Jax, and especially picks that do not attempt to run into Morde's spells (i.e. Riven) will do extremely well into him. Fiora negates his R or negates the benefit of his R by outdamaging him in realm too. There's too much counterplay on the champ and it relies on knowing how to win lane, something most people should already be doing. Last resort, play Vayne top and learn how to kite. He literally can't play the game.

  • @AgentFX
    @AgentFX 2 года назад +185

    I actually rly like the second camera angle bottom right. Gives me something to look at since nothing else is really changing on the screen, and I like the zooms on chat when they're spamming noted again.

    • @NameUnknownz
      @NameUnknownz 2 года назад +11

      Nah

    • @akaliotp6766
      @akaliotp6766 2 года назад +5

      Why can’t you just be mesmerized by the hunk of a man that ls is

    • @bacegla666
      @bacegla666 2 года назад

      Truuu

    • @YourFavouriteDraugr
      @YourFavouriteDraugr 2 года назад +13

      Literally the most pointless thing I've ever seen.

    • @AgentFX
      @AgentFX 2 года назад +1

      @@YourFavouriteDraugr I know its pointless, but theres nothing else to look at on the screen that isnt there for at least 5 minutes. And if I were to just listen to the video and do something on the side Id probably miss something.

  • @Nick.L.
    @Nick.L. 2 года назад +111

    Swain got changed around, basically they took away his damage and gave him healing. On the other hand, they literally buffed every single thing that Olaf does. If they keep those numbers, Olaf will probably be an ultra broken top/jg champ

    • @theteamxxx3142
      @theteamxxx3142 2 года назад +6

      On the long run swain will suffer the same problems as before they have to just change his W into something useful like his old CC ability pre rework

    • @jsmth99
      @jsmth99 2 года назад +2

      Blabber is sweating bullets rn :D

    • @louisedelavalliere171
      @louisedelavalliere171 2 года назад +1

      I think more healing less base damage is good ? they all build burn items , and hardly stay alive.

    • @adonisorellana22
      @adonisorellana22 2 года назад +1

      @@theteamxxx3142 oh man the old Q W E R combo with the old swain was so satisfying.

    • @ObiWanShinobi917
      @ObiWanShinobi917 2 года назад

      I'm ready to see some Closer/Blaber/Santorin Olaf spam in LCS

  • @tsui1024
    @tsui1024 2 года назад +176

    Olaf is going to be good top now. He is already oppressive early but his lane sustain is going to be alright now and he will stat check top laners. (also a good flex into jungle)

    • @dazeen9591
      @dazeen9591 2 года назад +5

      yeah I play the (current) Olaf top lane and it's really bad, Olaf is really really weak currently, super happy to see these new buffs, especially the shield and the R not losing the passive stats.

    • @levkrainov
      @levkrainov 2 года назад +4

      @@dazeen9591 They can just remove that reset on his R or at least remove immunity reset on his R and it'll still be a huge buff. This is just broken. As per usual they're going to release his skin, maybe he'll be in arcane. Then he'll be OP for couple months and finally they will nerf it.

    • @dazeen9591
      @dazeen9591 2 года назад +2

      @@levkrainov yeah i think the immunity reset is too op should just be a 1 time cleanse but still keep movement speed up if u keep autoing

    • @Geheimnis-c2e
      @Geheimnis-c2e 2 года назад

      His level 1 is arguably up there, so he's NOT really bad. He's just incredibly cheesy. Your level 2 all-in, assuming you can hit axes, is good vs everything.

    • @dazeen9591
      @dazeen9591 2 года назад

      @@Geheimnis-c2e Unless your opponent is a complete moron, they won't fight you early. And there is more cheesy level 1 stuff that beat Olaf really hard. Like Warwick level 1 and Lethal Tempo Trundle

  • @jackhurds6157
    @jackhurds6157 2 года назад +23

    This is a compensation buff. They knew if they released this while LS was coaching, Blaber would be unstoppable. Given that he lost some of his power, they're pumping him back up

  • @d1pstick
    @d1pstick 2 года назад +174

    no way this Olaf makes it to live servers

    • @FafliXx
      @FafliXx 2 года назад +19

      Yeah, the direction will stay, but these numbers are not fine

    • @Gradeient
      @Gradeient 2 года назад +6

      no way PepeLaugh

    • @gameguru42392
      @gameguru42392 2 года назад +6

      Yone exists

    • @davidd406
      @davidd406 2 года назад +31

      rework akali made it to live servers and this still isnt as close to that level so why not?

    • @aominetaiga343
      @aominetaiga343 2 года назад +20

      @@gameguru42392 Yone cant even compete with this shit, Olaf now basically has an immortal shieldbow passive in his w, like what the fk is this. At this stage of the game when items like Goredrinker combined with death dance is already broken. I don't see any reason why this kind of buff can go to the live server. If this kind of buff exists in PBE is not for a purpose of testing and remains unchanged on live servers, Riot's balance team should be dismissed.

  • @petit_ecureuil_malin
    @petit_ecureuil_malin 2 года назад +18

    the new swain's E allows to pull ALL ennemies hit, where before you could only pull 1 either on ally cc or your E then it was going on CD. Seems way better to be able to grab a pack of 2/3 or more ennemies with a good E in term of playmaking and even for team synergy since while pulling out of ally's cc you would make them miss their followup 99% of the time, so its also making it easier to read for teammates. for the ult the dmg look pretty freaking high cant wait to see it in action and as you said if he will be able to hold his position while only realying on sustain and since liandry is so good on him no riftmaker heal, runepage switch for conq maybe? itemisation seems weird because go liandry hourglass = nice dmg but 0 hp, he also needs a lot of mana so maybe going archangel for the passiv healing scaling on AP (+ hp and AP stats), and going for riftmaker to get hp and sustain while not losing as much from not having mana as if you would go fimbul wich shield scale on mana (archangel only cdr scales on mana),so: Riftmaker archangel spirit visage thornmail and gargoyle with defensive boots and i guess you are pretty much a beast? could switch a slot for demonic if need more dmg

    • @asmicdragon
      @asmicdragon 2 года назад +2

      also you can pull someone without vision now, thats a huge buff as before I had to ward or use my W to be able to pull. That means more mana in your mana pool ;) and 1 more ward to be placed where it actually needs to be placed.

  • @ryanforgo3500
    @ryanforgo3500 2 года назад +31

    I don't see this olaf buff going though tbh, he is gaining steraks shield on a 5 second cooldown.
    But also a 3 second immunity to cc with force of nature and or deadman's plate. Then you end up perma reseting that ulti cd. And with thay attack speed and build ip tankiness even titanic hydra will be broken.

    • @YourFavouriteDraugr
      @YourFavouriteDraugr 2 года назад +3

      First time?

    • @ryanforgo3500
      @ryanforgo3500 2 года назад

      @@YourFavouriteDraugr what ?

    • @z3sleeper588
      @z3sleeper588 2 года назад +5

      Remember, this is the same company that made release state Yuumi. The buff is going through.

    • @zenixvampirchik652
      @zenixvampirchik652 2 года назад +1

      @@z3sleeper588 nah yuumi isn't the worst example. Mage galio with legal 100% max hp damage tho...

    • @zenixvampirchik652
      @zenixvampirchik652 2 года назад

      move speed buff doesn't resets tho... But yeah it reminds me of how rito talked about ideas for mundo to go wherever he pleases, or ideas for volibear unstopable move speed buff

  • @stormdragon2529
    @stormdragon2529 2 года назад +74

    imagine if riot Gives renekton the Olaf treatment. he'll be the best champ in the game. literally

    • @Keurgui1
      @Keurgui1 2 года назад

      Boomwaddupsolorenektontopherebackatitagainwithsomemoteleaguepflegendsacciooooon

    • @samuilvalchev3803
      @samuilvalchev3803 2 года назад +21

      imagine they allow him to cancel his abilities like riven lmao

    • @DaveBuikema
      @DaveBuikema 2 года назад +7

      @@samuilvalchev3803 I wish there was a champ that could fake abilities. When I used to play For Honor online it was absolutely INSANE to mind game and get mind gamed with fake abilities into real abilities

    • @samuilvalchev3803
      @samuilvalchev3803 2 года назад +2

      @@DaveBuikema Yeah my abuse of Warden was insane as well in For Honor

    • @tomwanders6022
      @tomwanders6022 2 года назад

      I don’t think there is mich they can give renekton theme wise though, maybe just another infinite ultimate?

  • @gneoz7238
    @gneoz7238 2 года назад +2

    3:20 Mr. camera man watcha doing

  • @Viridian084
    @Viridian084 2 года назад +37

    Riot's s12 gimmick seems to be infinite ultimate durations. So cool

    • @aguysaid5457
      @aguysaid5457 2 года назад +1

      They added that to rammus w .... Now to olaf R

    • @Chromodar
      @Chromodar 2 года назад +5

      Riot balance team be like "Hey once Zeri is ramped up she can just keep going until there are no enemies nearby to fight. That seems like a really cool concept, let's instantly spread it to more champions". I wonder what they're trying to achieve. The logical response to a Zeri or Olaf or Swain being fully ramped is to try and disengage so the BS ends. I guess that's the gameplay they're trying to promote.

    • @aguysaid5457
      @aguysaid5457 2 года назад +1

      @@Chromodar I mean overloaded kits are the norm now.... As long as winrates are reasonable..... It stays

    • @Awesomeficationify
      @Awesomeficationify 2 года назад +1

      @@aguysaid5457 Rammus W is not even close to infinite.

    • @Spellbook
      @Spellbook 2 года назад +1

      For swain, 12 seconds vs 5 secs to infinite. has no difference

  • @IMasters10I
    @IMasters10I 2 года назад +57

    Hey, master mid swain guy here. I'll try and keep it short. All i wanted was for E to detonate on way out, because thats his most pressing issue when dealing with people jumping on you. As for this rework:
    -Q changes are great.
    -W, it's his only overpowered ability if used correctly, dont change it please. It's what gives him unique map agency.
    -E, how many times will you pull multiple? does it really make a difference if you just pull the one enemy that matters. for botlane: how will elec proc without E-passive-auto or E-passive-W?
    -R, I feel like it nerfed the damage. R2 change will take time to get used to. What's the difference between 12 seconds and infinite? It seems like they took out the hp stacking passive doubling when ult is up so in truth you get +2hp per stack in exchange for your flat bonus... i hope im wrong. Best buff was the cd, it's massive dont think it'll ever hit live.
    -Passive: no longer pulling is a nerf for sure, although sometimes you end up screwing your teammate with it since it has no prior indicator to happenning. as for the hp, please look previous paragraph.
    -Base ms still 325.
    As for itemization: I'm already building rylais 2nd into stoneplate since i think zhonya's is overrated with how much mobility there is.
    In conclusion Swain has 3 major problems: E is lacking for self peeling compared to other mages (try and hit a leblanc or katarina with it. Top lane Swain will stay dead in my eyes). There's no real go to rune on swain, I dont like elec since there are better champions if what you want is burst, Conq is my choice but mostly for pom and tenacity. Second tree there's a few choices, i usually take resolve, and i think i'll go with it even more now. Him being mana hungry means you opt for 3 choices: lyandri's and have damage but no hp or survivability, everfrost and it's the other way around and you'll find yourself eventually lacking damage later. Third would be to meme it and build tear into seraphs second, or crown lol.
    (and i said i'd try and keep it short haha) Would love yo hear your thoughts aswell, hope i helped.

    • @Liam-fd4uh
      @Liam-fd4uh 2 года назад +8

      Thanks, this is a great analysis of the changes. I didn’t realize swain ult was already 12 seconds before the change .

    • @psych0806
      @psych0806 2 года назад

      Even though swains pull deals no damage it will still count towards electrocute like anivias wall, so his trading patern wont really be changed

    • @etheris4140
      @etheris4140 2 года назад +1

      I just played a game of swain bot in the carry role with conquerer, despite fullstacking conq really easily, the amount of healing from conq was

    • @therealbigfloppa5512
      @therealbigfloppa5512 2 года назад

      Have you ever thought of going Grasp? Might not be half bad if you go overgrowth/unflinching, conditioning and then POM with tenacity.

    • @IMasters10I
      @IMasters10I 2 года назад

      I was under the impression that the pull will be shifted into E so it wouldnt count as a seperate ability. There's not much use arguing over this since time will tell.

  • @SteeleVicinity
    @SteeleVicinity 2 года назад +7

    “Sure you can stream today, just make sure to include your little brother”

  • @Xyltin
    @Xyltin 2 года назад +30

    Rioter said that MAYBE they have to adjust numbers after the release, so they plan on releasing this version and aren't even sure if he would be OP or even UP with that version.

    • @Dingdong2730
      @Dingdong2730 2 года назад +6

      They for sure have to nerf Olaf’s numbers. The missing hp shield adds a whole new dimension to Olaf, given he is at his strongest when low hp.
      Considering nothing else in his kit was nerfed to compensate, if anything rest of his kit got buffed, he is gonna be even more broken than Tahm Kench when he got reworked.

    • @Number9Robotic
      @Number9Robotic 2 года назад +1

      Isn't that literally the case with anything in the game? Nobody ever gets it right on the first go lol

    • @hehexd5317
      @hehexd5317 2 года назад

      @@Number9Robotic "nobody ever gets it right on the first go LOL" bro, this is glaringly broken, wym "nobody gets it right the first time", it's not just "oh the numbers were a bit too high" it's an overtuned kit now

    • @0Rasetz0
      @0Rasetz0 2 года назад

      they dont even test the changes themselves nowadays haha

  • @iLoveVisionZ
    @iLoveVisionZ 2 года назад +12

    Maybe Bwipo is up for an "Interview" with you about the Swain Changes for Top Lane!

  • @Gecko_Papa
    @Gecko_Papa 2 года назад +10

    ngl I miss old swain. Was way more satisfying to spam dps abilities than the current kit

  • @rebabuhin
    @rebabuhin 2 года назад +17

    Hi, im a master swain otp. I peaked GM when i was building him as burst mage, ludens+liandries (pre mythic changes) and am the only one who does it.
    Atm, he has no real rune. The best probably is conq primarily because of PoM.
    I play him exclusively top which is a horror vs bruisers, you cant lane at all. And top of that, he lacks waveclear, high cd and mana cost and that ridiculus 325 ms. Thank god frozen heart is rather op i barely hit masters.
    This changes looks great esp the R. Tho the numbers i feel are ridiculously high. I wish i live in NA so i can test the changes myself.
    Sucks that u cant pull off ally cc anymore, but trading it for an aoe pull is worth imo.

    • @RedProdductionsInc
      @RedProdductionsInc 2 года назад +2

      335 ms. Whatever we have to give to get it. Oh god please.

    • @Lohith_lol
      @Lohith_lol 2 года назад

      are you the kr swain top who played grasp vs thebausffs sion and you got like 200 passive stacks at 20min.

    • @rebabuhin
      @rebabuhin 2 года назад +1

      @@Lohith_lol Havent seen that game yet, but no, thats not me. Im not korean.
      That might be 스크래치 (scratch). He plays top with ghost-flash and builds rocketbelt-liandrys. Sometimes he plays spellbook and grasp, that could be him i think.

    • @asmicdragon
      @asmicdragon 2 года назад +1

      You can now pull without vision aswell, as you only need to reactivate E. pulling on allied CC did more bad than good in late game since your allies will not account for your pull. I think this is a much healthier version of swain.
      I am otp swain top aswell

  • @Jinkuzu
    @Jinkuzu 2 года назад +10

    The fact Olaf can extend his ult while it also being heavily buffed is so damn scary.

    • @zenixvampirchik652
      @zenixvampirchik652 2 года назад

      huuuuh... Ulti was really awkward to use at late stages - as yes it gives cleanse and short unstoppable status, but you lost so much def stats for it... And now you will be like - yeah i have big def... But also immune to cc... But also get damage, attack speed, vamp and shield... So what? executes would be must have... Like Garen's true damage execute with percentage scaling from missing hp...

  • @casthor64
    @casthor64 2 года назад +37

    If they want to make Swain a tanky boy with his r just give him Mr and armor while he has his r cause healing is massively reduce so better to have some Mr and armor imo

    • @anthonyy1790
      @anthonyy1790 2 года назад +1

      Yep yep

    • @Spellbook
      @Spellbook 2 года назад +4

      Ithink it might not matter. I can see Swain just going straight tank with demonic, the base damage buff is kinda good.

    • @bradleybass9280
      @bradleybass9280 2 года назад +3

      oh please lmao grev wounds almost feels completly useless late game vs some champs, im a fiora main and still heal for a quarter of my health every vital.

    • @Geheimnis-c2e
      @Geheimnis-c2e 2 года назад +1

      @@bradleybass9280 Wow who would've thought killing the targerts who have Grev Wounds is good esp when you're a Fiora.
      Imagine if Aatrox can kill targets just as fast.

    • @zenixvampirchik652
      @zenixvampirchik652 2 года назад

      @@Geheimnis-c2e oh Aatrox... So many deaths from 70% hp to 0 in second/third Q cast - and not even being able to finish it... Sometimes even from 100%... And that's without falling behind. Altough didn't played him for a long time now so maybe it is better now...

  • @simplekillzz390
    @simplekillzz390 2 года назад +7

    LS looking at olaf's new ult is like the meme of the guy blinking

  • @definitelynotvj
    @definitelynotvj 2 года назад +5

    LS aka Left Side Camera popping off

  • @A.Carroll16
    @A.Carroll16 2 года назад +2

    New Olaf in One for All throwing axes at each other's locations:
    -Ping +Pong -Ping +Pong...

  • @Wardism
    @Wardism 2 года назад +2

    it should be noted that Swain's "hook" where it no longer procs off of all cc it does now pull every enemy hit.

  • @cjnwangwu6897
    @cjnwangwu6897 2 года назад +8

    So it seems like Riot has utilized Zeri's Ult mechanic as a design philosophy going forward, which I kind of like within reason to be honest.
    For any existing ults that give massive steroids to a champion, they are making it such that so long as the player manages to stay in combat, it can stay up indefinitely until they exit combat. It plays well into the manner in which they want to play. Darius for example has a similar design philosophy for his passive. Regardless, since the sort of champions that would be utilizing this tend to be focused on sustain damage oriented (things like battle mages, juggernauts, etc), it plays into the existing manner in which they tend to operate, since these kinds of champions should want enemies to run into them, and due to their stat-checking, can fight their way out so long as they manage the damage they are taking.
    I'm assuming this tend started with more champions (mainly carry champions) getting resets off of kills either increasing duration or straight up resetting the ability(e.g. Vayne's updated Ult)
    So I'd imagine that for any underperforming champion subclasses with champions that have this issue of a time-gated steroid that is only situationally useful due to the way they play, they might add a similar mechanic.
    -Like imagine a change like this on Nasus where everytime he hits an enemy champion with Q or they are affected by Spirit Fire, his Ult get's extended
    -or when Warwick ults, he get's the maximum buff of Blood Trail's Attack Speed and Eternal Thirst's Onhit + Life Steal, and it will only stay up for every auto-attack or Q he does on champions currently giving off a blood trail (So he could cast W initially to start the chain effect, but if he chooses incorrectly it won't last very long)
    -or something like every tick of Shyvana's Burnout that hits an enemy champion extends the duration of her dragon form.
    I don't imagine that this design philosophy is going anywhere. Any new juggernaut to be released going forward will probably have something akin to this, as well as any champion with an ult steroid who, by nature should be wanting fights to be extended. Any currently underperforming champions with mechanics somewhat similar to this will probably get this treatment
    Like at the end of the day, you're still weak to the same things, but are a more meaningful threat to what you SHOULD BE GOOD AT ANSWERING (Hence why I love changes like this). You get railed by any amount of meaningful disengage and/or mobility that can control the pace of the fight without having to ever commit 100% like say Janna or Karma with poke champions. However, stat-checkers who do their due diligence in choosing their fights get rewarded for doing so, making it easier to balance since all you'd need to do is tweak the difficulty of keeping the steroid going whilst making minor adjustments to the steroids power where needed rather than needing to completely rework a champion to the degree of updates like Aatrox or Mordekaiser (Both of whom, I feel at least, seem a bit underwhelming).
    Not bad Riot...not bad at all.

  • @manvuquang3761
    @manvuquang3761 2 года назад +11

    Don't know if it matter but it's worth to point out that since olaf's heal is now his passive you won't be able to intentionally get low on him to get the most use out of his passive. This may affect his jungle clear speed.

    • @xyhgn
      @xyhgn 2 года назад +3

      but he has 0 cd on q if he picks it up

  • @lowceyn2875
    @lowceyn2875 2 года назад +1

    I have so many question about the second cam, i don't even know where to begin with

  • @zer0_cool
    @zer0_cool 2 года назад

    I really needed that closeup on the side of LS's face while he talks about the upcoming patch.

  • @Gabriel64468
    @Gabriel64468 2 года назад +4

    LS missed why they removed the bonus health on his ultimate: it is actually compensated.
    Ultimate doubles bonuses from Soul Fragments and the health he gains from soul Fragments is buffed. So he is double dipping into the Soul Fragment health whenever his ult is going (and his ult should be going for a larger portion of the game now).
    He'd need 18 Soul Fragments to be better off in a Rank 1 ult and 40 to be better off in a Rank 3 ult. Depending on whether the new pull on E also provides a Soul Fragment or whether that part of the kit is lost I think those are numbers that can be hit.
    You probably have less health right at level 6, but at level 10 you should be better off, with a break even point somewhere in the middle. And then the same powercurve-smoothing happens between lvl 11 and 15.
    If his E reactivation doesn't give Soul Fragments I think his Passive will feel rather lackluster and you are probably not gonna hit the numbers necessary to be as tanky as before.

    • @simone8172
      @simone8172 2 года назад

      I really hope it still doubles. If so I totally agree with you, but if you look at the PBE description it no longer says it doubles health from Soul Fragments. Without the doubling, you still have a TINY increase in hp from 1the 5 > 12 buff, but that's mostly mitigated (or perhaps even entirely but I doubt it) by the greatly lessened number of Soul Fragments you'll end up receiving when losing the ability to pull a soul off ally CC. Your E pull does explicitly say it still gives soul fragments, but that's only for the enemies you hit with E.

  • @jasonoakton7379
    @jasonoakton7379 2 года назад +3

    im more excited for the swain changes i think his ult slow with ryli will be very interesting aswell as q buffs

  • @ericborczuk135
    @ericborczuk135 2 года назад +1

    Not only is shielding better than healing for Olaf w - it also unlocks taking shield bash as a rune which could be REALLY efficient
    navori olaf here I come

    • @Mani_Katti
      @Mani_Katti 2 года назад

      Shield Bash isn't that good though....

  • @isaac15752
    @isaac15752 2 года назад +2

    His new ult finally fits the lore, Olaf cannot die as he fights, he becomes imortal so he can fight for ever, the new ult fits that perfectly, as long as he fights he’s ulted

    • @hehexd5317
      @hehexd5317 2 года назад

      shoulda just given him an extendable trynd ult, you know, lore n shiet

    • @zenixvampirchik652
      @zenixvampirchik652 2 года назад

      @@hehexd5317 nah, olaf lives for the fight, while he still fighting. And trynd is to angry to die.

  • @de1vidas521
    @de1vidas521 2 года назад +4

    Buddy has a fking drone in his room OMEGALUL

  • @mikkelmoller972
    @mikkelmoller972 2 года назад

    what camara man doing at 3:20 ???

  • @tctrickshot
    @tctrickshot 2 года назад +1

    1:54 THE CHAT LMAO

  • @dennisdias5828
    @dennisdias5828 2 года назад +1

    The additional camera gives such a different feel

  • @sanjaanamsan2522
    @sanjaanamsan2522 2 года назад +3

    Why tf u have a moving 2nd cam

  • @zaidelaymat797
    @zaidelaymat797 2 года назад +1

    12:12 lmao that actually had me dying xD

  • @jonathanreece4151
    @jonathanreece4151 2 года назад +5

    With the changes to R, it looks like Olaf can only go in, not out.

  • @Niichiro
    @Niichiro 2 года назад

    So basically R now has the duration of old R but you need to keep succing enemy champs for it to be that way. Not to mention he now has a built in Rylai?? or was that only on R2?

  • @Tendenciess
    @Tendenciess 2 года назад +1

    You can see LS emotion a lot more on the alternate camera angle

  • @AceuKun
    @AceuKun 2 года назад

    can you go into audacity and remove the layer with the static ty

  • @maxrollefson2631
    @maxrollefson2631 2 года назад

    I thought liandry’s torment was the mythic of choice for swain, am I wrong?

  • @KazzGuy09
    @KazzGuy09 2 года назад

    Also glad they're reverting swain slightly to the old version, miss the death fires grasp q, but he used to have unlimited ult as long as he had mana.. this brings him back to mid range duelers like ryze and cassio

  • @takumifujiwara300
    @takumifujiwara300 2 года назад +2

    Cloud Soul is the Swain wet dream.
    ULT CDR + MOVEMENT SPEED DAMN

    • @Rhyolite-hyena
      @Rhyolite-hyena 2 года назад

      Fkin hell now I'm just too excited to sleep now. I need to stay away from lol news for a long time before this hits live. This seems to be too much fun. Alternately get mountain soul, go 3 tank items against other drain tanks like Olaf and just watch the fight go on for a minute before some antifun open fire. Just like the old school Maokai Nasus fight.
      Who am I kidding, he'll get burst down even by a tank like any other tanks anyway.

  • @YourFavouriteDraugr
    @YourFavouriteDraugr 2 года назад

    What's the point of the other camera?

  • @TheNewblade1
    @TheNewblade1 2 года назад

    Is he filming a docu series?

  • @ayserg
    @ayserg 2 года назад

    What’s up with the other side camera lol

  • @GreenEmperor
    @GreenEmperor 2 года назад +3

    Wtf was that 2nd camera? xD

  • @zMajicz2
    @zMajicz2 2 года назад

    Doesn't Ghost refresh while you auto champs or is it only when you get kills? Ghost Olaf top :(

  • @AbdaSamio
    @AbdaSamio 2 года назад

    So if he can keep attacking does it extend his ult duration indefinitely?

  • @AzraelGuideMe
    @AzraelGuideMe 2 года назад

    I expect Swain to itemize as such
    Everfrost > Merc/Ninja/CDR boots > Rylais > Demonic embrace (I think, the little shogun dude icon) > maybe get a tear earlier stack fimbul? Or go spirit Visage
    It looks like they're gearing him to be a good answer to assassins and other all in types of mages, where he just keeps sustaining, even through grievous wounds. If you hit that ult In 3 to 5 man fight around dragon, you're gonna be so damn unstoppable, especially since it'll keep going if you keep stacking it in the fight.

  • @A11ucard
    @A11ucard 2 года назад

    whats the other camera for lol?

  • @KazzGuy09
    @KazzGuy09 2 года назад +10

    The thing with olafs ult is they nerfed it from 6s to 3s I think maybe to stop him from ulting and running away lol

  • @Azuralet
    @Azuralet 2 года назад +2

    That Olaf change is INSANE

  • @zaidelaymat797
    @zaidelaymat797 2 года назад +2

    The Olaf buffs are legit the most insane thing I've seen in the history of this game

    • @adamnagel7436
      @adamnagel7436 2 года назад

      You haven't played very long

    • @zaidelaymat797
      @zaidelaymat797 2 года назад

      @@adamnagel7436 I've played since season 1 lol
      You seem to have no idea how insane those buffs are, they aren't just a simple thing that helps the champion, this is a completely different thing from old Olaf

    • @whyareyoureadingthis1947
      @whyareyoureadingthis1947 2 года назад +1

      These people who said Olaf isn't going to be broken has no idea how stupid Olaf with enchanter actually is. One of the counter player to Olaf was to 1 shot him if he's underfed. Now he's much more tanky than before and with enchanter next to him especially someone with high speed boost (Karma, Lulu, Yuumi) make him a HUGE 1v9 threat. Imagine a champ that has 3k hp in mid game with 60 built in resist with 700 ms that can 1 anything mid / adc in few secs and CAN'T BE CC. If Olaf player is good there's no counterplay to that.

  • @Flare3500
    @Flare3500 2 года назад

    Whats up with the 2nd weird camera lol

  • @evanlawrence6796
    @evanlawrence6796 2 года назад

    Would u ever think building abyssal mask would be good for this new swain??? Or is the item so bad and situational that its not worth buying?

  • @ammarelhaddad1694
    @ammarelhaddad1694 2 года назад +1

    i gotta say, LS looks really good in that camera

  • @mistyless7431
    @mistyless7431 2 года назад

    Wtf is this side camera zooming into the bags under his eyes and the fire of the candle beside him???

  • @JustGoUpTheySay
    @JustGoUpTheySay 2 года назад

    How long can you accumulate on olaf ult.

  • @bnto8788
    @bnto8788 2 года назад

    i noticed theres a minor audio hissing on this video, not sure what it is but its def there

  • @PRIM-r9l
    @PRIM-r9l 2 года назад +5

    Imagine Olaf and Lulu mid with Yuumi support that's an 15 minutes ff 🤣

  • @christiansvenjimmiekarlsso1876
    @christiansvenjimmiekarlsso1876 2 года назад +1

    swain finally returning to more like he was earlier with most of his gameplay in his ult

  • @kacperromlg5
    @kacperromlg5 2 года назад

    What is that 2nd Camera xD

  • @sageging2771
    @sageging2771 2 года назад

    the look at the end about drafting olaf and soraka was gold

  • @nolane3972
    @nolane3972 2 года назад

    what keyboard is that?

  • @christianerickson2660
    @christianerickson2660 2 года назад

    Can Olaf go any forbidden idol items now?

  • @compactreview
    @compactreview 2 года назад

    The "behind the scenes" camera is SO cool 😎

  • @fluid3007
    @fluid3007 2 года назад

    Hey man big fan but I'm not sure about the random camera angles on the other screen

  • @strategist973
    @strategist973 2 года назад

    The issue with Swain before was he had high mana cost and his passive refunding mana per soul was to compensate. Without it, Swain can run out of mana after 2 rotations and was reliant on Presence of Mind and Mana flow band to off set it. The reduce mana cost alone for Q and W are enough to help but now with more health per soul and his E pulling every champion, his scaling is more consistent and his own CC is more reliable.

  • @DeadestMoon
    @DeadestMoon 2 года назад

    Does this mean that Serpent's Fang will be a staple against Olaf comps?

  • @GunzaBlazinJr
    @GunzaBlazinJr 2 года назад +1

    Ive been thinking about the relation between Renata and Olaf recently. Think about the Bailout on top of Ragnarok Olaf. Then add a supp mid = op as fuck.

  • @emilefrancis2579
    @emilefrancis2579 2 года назад

    I love these Swain changes. It finally fits his itemization and role.

  • @74URS74
    @74URS74 2 года назад +1

    imagine if LS was a coach on c9 with these olaf changes while having blabber as jg and fudge willing to play enchanters

    • @simone8172
      @simone8172 2 года назад

      EZ Worlds dub... before this turbo broken Olaff inevitably gets nerfed

  • @Derploop
    @Derploop 2 года назад

    I wonder if Swain might be the first non-mythic going champ after this rework. He gets so much from so many legendary items that skipping mythic might not be troll. Demonic, Abyssal, Rylai's, Seraphs basically doubling his ult's effectiveness, Cosmic Drive and frozen heart for the seraph's synergy + insane scaling with his passive hp all seem really, really good on Swain, to the point that I wonder if a mythic will even be better than any one of them. Like, your core is probably Rylai's and Demonic, and at that point, is Riftmaker ever doing any more than any of those other items? I suppose time and swain's damage will tell.

    • @kklap3219
      @kklap3219 2 года назад

      How does seraph double ult effectiveness?

    • @Derploop
      @Derploop 2 года назад

      @@kklap3219 the healing it gives per second from a channel is a bit more than swain ult gives, IIRC.

    • @kklap3219
      @kklap3219 2 года назад

      @@Derploop its on mana spent. Swain R spends mana once, ur probably thinking of old swain R.

    • @Derploop
      @Derploop 2 года назад +1

      @@kklap3219 oh ooooof, I didn't consider the whole demon power interaction. That sucks, but it does simplify the build options a bit, which is nice.

  • @wanyaisneed3972
    @wanyaisneed3972 2 года назад +1

    What he didn't mention was its now significantly harder to gain soul fragments. Following up on cc was where most swain soul fragments come from so its probably more net negative than ls thinks

    • @Purpliz
      @Purpliz 2 года назад

      The stacking of Swain passive's isn't as important as Sion one for example

    • @wanyaisneed3972
      @wanyaisneed3972 2 года назад

      @@Purpliz right but combined with the removal of bonus health on his ult, the removal of probably 500-600 gold of real stats for theoretical power is a bad trade for a champ that has to make himself felt by mid game

    • @Purpliz
      @Purpliz 2 года назад

      @@wanyaisneed3972 yes but ig having the perma healing on his ult makes him way more durable, like Swain rn is pretty heavy to kill without anti heal if he's in his ult so I don't think the passive lost will be an hard lost

    • @wanyaisneed3972
      @wanyaisneed3972 2 года назад

      @@Purpliz right but I don't think the change in how much he's healing would outweigh the flat health he would have had in most situations. If anything I think the changes only really make him slightly better in situations he's already good in but worse in all other scenarios.

  • @Zwijger
    @Zwijger 2 года назад +4

    The attack speed is level gated now, and q damage down early level, so he is not as weighted to early game.
    The W shield seems completely broken though.

    • @lucasalarcon3230
      @lucasalarcon3230 2 года назад

      The q spam is still strong early game most, keeping the mr and armor after R is huge plus he also have a huge shield is broken

  • @MS-uj3ds
    @MS-uj3ds 2 года назад

    13:16 Dramatic zoom at it's finest

  • @skeeprbrit1673
    @skeeprbrit1673 2 года назад +17

    As the 31st best olaf in EUW, I'm devastated, can never play this champ again cause he's getting perm banned for this next 2 months at least

    • @Trashplayaer
      @Trashplayaer 2 года назад

      31st? With the current olaf? Damm

    • @madaofan7378
      @madaofan7378 2 года назад +4

      31st best Olaf out of the only 31 people that still plays him OMEGALUL

    • @kklap3219
      @kklap3219 2 года назад

      XD i hope u are aware of how innacurate that stat is. In reality ur probably not even top 500 olaf.

    • @skeeprbrit1673
      @skeeprbrit1673 2 года назад

      @@kklap3219 of course I'm aware but that doesn't sound as cool as 31st best olaf euw

    • @kklap3219
      @kklap3219 2 года назад

      @@skeeprbrit1673 true

  • @christianfigueroa3120
    @christianfigueroa3120 2 года назад

    I think Blaber from C9 pulled some strings or something with those Olaf buffs.

  • @YacubCubby13579ZR
    @YacubCubby13579ZR 2 года назад

    Supposedly the Q has 125 more range on Olaf as well, I think?

    • @kklap3219
      @kklap3219 2 года назад

      Nope , u are simply forced to throw it further away

  • @yudoball
    @yudoball 2 года назад

    whos the one filming on the right hand side xD

  • @EARTHM4N
    @EARTHM4N 2 года назад

    As a swain main, I do think the main problem why drain tank swain is unpopular is swain basically relies on Liandry's, which gives zero HP, forcing swain to build Zhonya's for second item, which also gives 0 HP. Besides the drain rate is somehow too low as everyone ca reduce your healing. To me I actually think some of the drain rate on R should be transformed to movement speed (because of his demon wings) or some armour

  • @lanceasuncion5022
    @lanceasuncion5022 2 года назад +1

    As a resolve tree support swain player, the changes are a bit favorable on how i build him

  • @spartusvng
    @spartusvng 2 года назад

    As it is right now, Swain has no waveclear, his q costs too much mana for not enough damage, and he can only be played support effectively if you want an early kill lane lvl 2 or if your topside can carry and then you as swain are just a cc/slow with w and e in teamfights and in choke points

    • @kklap3219
      @kklap3219 2 года назад

      Swain has insane wave clear? Its just mana intensive.

  • @DonRaynor
    @DonRaynor 2 года назад

    Joe, if the lights permit. LS's complexion would benefit from warmer tone of light

  • @andrewkelley9405
    @andrewkelley9405 2 года назад

    Wait idk what is the new camera but I like it. Also didn’t know LS was a fellow candle enjoyed.

  • @countingcards1208
    @countingcards1208 2 года назад

    Speaking as a Quinn main the Olaf top matchup would be a lot like the Mundo matchup, if he hits you with q and then uses R he can just run you down and kill you over and over.

  • @jorgep8032
    @jorgep8032 2 года назад

    It’s interesting that limiting his immunity to 3 seconds but keeping the armor and MR part, I think it will be an amazing split pusher top with the self sustain plus shield plus armor pen, they buff 4 out of 5 oh his abilities, Swain got a big health gain per passive proc, but now it’s quite difficult to use it, you need to hit your w or e to get a soul and teammates can no longer help, definitely they don’t want it as support, but depending on the ultimate power level, I don’t think he will be a good solo laner either

    • @hehexd5317
      @hehexd5317 2 года назад

      did you miss the part where the R extends if he's hitting some1, if he manages to get on some1, he's gonna stick on them untill some1 dies

  • @insignificantdamage3446
    @insignificantdamage3446 2 года назад

    I don't know if this is a Adam buff or nerf considering Olaf might just be permabanned against BDS.

  • @MagierJo
    @MagierJo 2 года назад

    I think LS didn't quite see that his early attack speed (and thus his early clear, if played correctly) is massively being hit. Before he could get almost 100 % attack speed at early levels and now its capped at 40%, also he can't decide when he heals and when he doesn't, which also affects experienced players. Can't quite tell yet how big of a deal this all is tho, gotta admit the later payoff might be worth it. Still the one thing why Olaf was still picked in pro now and then (recently hasn't tho afaik) was mostly his insane early clear speed.

  • @mlemmage8449
    @mlemmage8449 2 года назад

    Removing the pull from Swain's passive hurts him higher elo perhaps since its hard to root with the E as is. Maybe he'll just become an ult bot. But because he can't pull off of ally CC he might end up getting less souls

  • @kairos227
    @kairos227 2 года назад +1

    olaf is 9:05 guys ♥

  • @jorgebleyer8108
    @jorgebleyer8108 2 года назад +14

    Olaf not lossing the passive resists on ragnarok has to be a mistake, I can't see how a 120 resists 2,5k health 250 ad unCCable running at ppl and be balanced

    • @profawnsor
      @profawnsor 2 года назад +1

      Its a very healthy change for Olaf players. Being able to Ult in every fight is a good feeling instead of the 'Cant be CC'd but lose armor and MR' tradeoff.

  • @arisufizu5698
    @arisufizu5698 2 года назад

    whoever thought of the camera zooms while ls is semi malding is a genius

  • @sevenofquills
    @sevenofquills 2 года назад +1

    As a support Swain main, not sure how to feel about this yet. First impression I'm thinking this makes him more viable in mid lane, and less in bot lane. Not pleased with pull only working off his own E. Not pleased with losing HP gain on ult. Don't quite understand the ping thing for W. Don't really understand the numbers for ult drain heal. Kind of feel like I might have to switch to a tanky mythic item. For now I've stopped playing him so if all these changes go through, I won't mourn the champ I was most attuned to.

    • @Purpliz
      @Purpliz 2 года назад +1

      W ping is just so your teammates know if you're in range to put a slow or help

    • @sevenofquills
      @sevenofquills 2 года назад

      @@Purpliz AHhh nice thank you that makes so much sense. Great quality of life adjustment!

    • @Purpliz
      @Purpliz 2 года назад

      @@sevenofquills well pretty usefull, other than that yeah I think swain supp is getting killed but I always felt bad that a commander, that is describe as a Leader is just a bland support, being on a solo lane feels nice