The Shocking Truth About How the Bible Was Twisted for Slavery...
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Personally I would have Dr.Nehemia Gordon ( the scroll man) on the show to explain how his research on this subject was conducted.After all he is the guy who made these things known and everyone is now claiming “they know” .after the fact)
I like that Mike Jones fellow. A very nice young man.
@@ModernDayDebate he’s like pushing 40 wdym?😭
We like you MDD ❤
Lavital law made it obvious that slavery was for paying off debts, was temporary, and if you CHOSE to stay as a slave you were to be treated well and with the utmost respect as a fellow Israelite. The new testament was so against it because Roman slavery was nothing like biblical slavery. It makes sence that the abolition of slavery was promoted by Christians.
But we don’t have any verses in the Bible condemning slavery. So Christian’s are condemning in-spite of the Bible not because of it.
@@omnikevlar2338Galatians 3:28 Jesus clearly states “there is neither slave nor free”
Except for non Israelites. But there were rules regarding treatment
For Israelite males that is.
@@omnikevlar2338 The verses which caused Christians to condemn slavery aren't always ones which have the word 'slave' in them, which is one reason why people sometimes miss them. One of the most important ones is in Genesis where ALL humans are made in God's image, putting us all on equal footing right from the start.
Also, Paul includes slave trading among some of his lists of sins, which indicates that forcing another human being into a live of opression is wrong by God's standards. So I get how only reading verses with the word 'slave' in them could lead you to the conclusion that the Bible is more for than against slavery, but it's not like anti-slavery sentiment is totally absent.
"Tom Holland, not the Spiderman Actor".
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Props to the pope for freeing slaves. Let's not gloss over that.
and hit like, saints!
Inspiring Philosophy killed it 💯
Inspiring Philosophy lied about. That, apparently, "kills it" for Christians. But this is the internet, not your church.
@@cygnusustus Where is his lie?
@@Daniel-f9p8e
I already exposed it in one of my posts:
"What was kept (in the slave Bible)? Verses that justified slavery."
Nope. You're lying. Exodus 21 justifies slavery. It is not in the slave Bible. Leviticus 25 justifies slavery. It is not in the slave bible. Numbers 31 justifies slavery. It is not in the slave Bible. Deuteronomy 20 justifies slavery. It is not in the slave Bible.
If you have to lie to defend your beliefs, it is time to get new beliefs!
Blessings to you and the family.
Ruslan and Michael Jones thank you for both of your work, may God bless you. I'm a Zimbabwean and we Africans don't blame christ or Christians or real Christianity for slavery, just the trickery, deceit, pride, cruelty, ambition and greed of Early European settlers
Fun fact, not sure what denomination you practice but there was Sublimus Deus, a papal bull from 1527 which says, "the said Indians and all other people who may later be discovered by Christians, are by no means to be deprived of their liberty or the possession of their property, even though they be outside the faith of Jesus Christ; and that they may and should, freely and legitimately, enjoy their liberty and the possession of their property; nor should they be in any way enslaved; should the contrary happen, it shall be null and have no effect."
@@perennem_equitem_57 OK that's a good one, thanks
@VeronicaMusariri-e8p no problem my friend, may god bless you❤️
@perennem_equitem_57 likewise, if we don't meet on earth my God (the father, word and the Holy spirit) introduce us to each other in heaven if we're graced
I am not trying to be a jerk or be rude but wasn't it the Africans themselves that enslaved their very own people and sold them to the European settlers?
unbelievable video ruslan love the encouragement and information for better evangelism
Great video Ruslan!
Nat Turner is a perfect example of knowing what the Bible is.
Turner credited his Christian faith with rebelling against the slave master. He knew how to read when other slaves didn't. He saw himself as Moses.
Thank you for explaining that because I try to tell my family all the time that Christianity is not a “white” man’s religion. We are all made in the image of God and we all have sinned and fallen short to the glory of God
Great video brother
Even in the ancient world when nobody could grasp the idea of a society functioning without slaves, Christians made efforts to free people from slavery, despite not expecting to abolish the industry. They'd go to slave markets, buy as many slaves as possible, and give them their freedom. Augustine and his church raided slave ships numerous times.
Another fun detail which wasn't explicitly mentioned in this video is that as after anti-slavery sentiments in the early church matured into abolitionist propositions, the Catholic empire actually managed to basically eradicate slavery for a while in the Middle Ages before the conquest of the Americas, when it started up again because human beings are jerks.
And fun fact, the papacy denounced American slavery too. This is from Sublimus Deus, "the said Indians and all other people who may later be discovered by Christians, are by no means to be deprived of their liberty or the possession of their property, even though they be outside the faith of Jesus Christ; and that they may and should, freely and legitimately, enjoy their liberty and the possession of their property; nor should they be in any way enslaved; should the contrary happen, it shall be null and have no effect."
@@perennem_equitem_57 history differs resistance and law stopped it
@@JIMMY_JZ yeah because after the middle ages the papacy lost most of it political power, which is good in some cases and bad in others. And my claim was simply the papacy rebuked slavery long before anyone else. This document is from 1527.
Ecclesiastes is my favorite book
The recent(ish) guest who was angry about "surprised" claimed the Bible encouraged or allowed that practice yesterday me with that. One of the key things God told the Children of Israel immediately after leaving Egypt in the book of Exodus said was, "You shall not oppress a sojourner. You know the heart of a sojourner, for you were sojourners in the land of Egypt." (Exodus 23:9, ESV).
Anyone who says this encouraged or allowed that practice is uninformed or trying to present a skewed message.
10:53 that’s exactly what Christians did to invent the concept of the Trinity
"Mike Jones went on TimCast and did an amazing job!"
Yes, Christians always win the discussion when there is nobody presenting the opposite viewpoint.
you ever heard of Nat Turner?
@@coltonstevens4339
What about him, child?
@@cygnusustus his dive into his Chrsitian faith let him realize he had a right to rebel against his slave owners.
Have you ever read 1 Timothy 1:10, where Paul says Roman slavery, (not the bondservant type found in the Old Testament) is in contrast to "sound doctrine"?
@@coltonstevens4339
Nat Turner's ignorance of his own faith does not change the fact that the Bible condones chattel slavery.
Have you ever read Leviticus 25 where chattel slavery (not simply bond servitude) is explicitly condoned and promoted?
Got anything else?
@@cygnusustusLeviticus 25:44?
Congratulations
The verse picking attitude is one of the most frustrating thing outside, AND inside the church family. None of it does any good, and as you said, topics need to be taken to macro level to see the overarching pattern, and theme that goes on. Otherwise we can't see the forest for the trees.
The verse denying attitude is one of the most frustrating things inside the church family.
Good take on the slave Bible that omitted so much of the Scriptures!
Nope. He lied about the Slave Bible.
The Slave Bible did not "take-out" anything. It was never intended to be a Bible in the first place. It was a selection of readings (compiled by abolitionists) intended to promote literacy among the slaves in a way that would be acceptable to Christian slave masters. As such, it excluded selections regarding slavery, either pro or con.
@ sooooo it was a Bible with “excluded selections regarding slavery”… or just specific selections of the Bible but others omitted. How is that different than what he said??
@@cygnusustus that's not true at all, who made the slave bible is pure speculation at this point. However it is true they removed verses related to equality and hope. The slave bible does not contain the exodus story or revelations, two very important books of the bible. It also removed galatians 3:28 but kept Ephesians 6:5. And in total the slave bible has less than 300 chapters, the regular KJV has almost 1200. In order to promote slavery in the bible they had to remove 75% of the content in the bible.
@@Be_Divine_Waters
He said it excluded sections which condemned slavery. And in fact, he falsely claimed that it left in sections that justified slavery.
@@perennem_equitem_57
Child, we know that the concept for the slave Bible was originally put forth and championed by an abolitionist.
"In order to promote slavery in the bible they had to remove 75% of the content in the bible."
Promoting slavery was not their goal, child, or they would have left in Exodus 21, Leviticus 25, and Deuteronomy 20.
protestants are good in editing
If by key passages you mean they took the KJV (protestants this one is on you) and removed over 75% of the book yes. They removed the exodus, arguably the most important book of the Old testament and removed revelation, one of the most important books of the new testament. The standard kjv has about 1200 chapters in it, the slave bible has under 300. If you have to remove that much of the book to be pro-slavery, id say the book overall does not aupport slavery.
Yes. It has to be noted that Christians early on did understand that chattel slavery was not compatible with the Christian life (although in the mid-1000s the money in slavery got good enough to make them forget it for a while). To date, Christianity is the only religion that has developed explicit anti-slavery doctrine.
I think the question he was pointing at was, how can people use the bible against it's word and get away with this misappropriation
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Yes, when people claim that same Bible supported the north ans south ans slavery, no.
A highly edited Bible supported slavery
Side nit inly the Christian westerner said no to slavery
And fought to end it
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"This idea the Christianity was responsible for slavery is nonsense."
Oh, hello there Mr. Strawman!
IP is the goat!
What version of Leviticus are you reading? Chapter 25 verses 44 through 56 make it very clear “As for the male and female slaves whom you may have, it is from the nations around you that you may acquire male and female slaves. You may also acquire them from among the aliens residing with you and from their families who are with you who have been born in your land; they may be your property. You may keep them as a possession for your children after you, for them to inherit as property. These you may treat as slaves, but as for your fellow Israelites, no one shall rule over the other with harshness.” There’s also a long history of Christians promoting slavery and owning slaves. Sure you can use parts of the Bible to argue for either side, but that’s more of a problem for Biblical consistency than for the people pointing out it’s issues.
slavery in the ancient Jewish context was letting people work to pay off debt. Paul was against Roman slavery and wrote in one of his letters to Timothy that it "contrary to sound doctrine" (1 Timothy 1:10).
@@coltonstevens4339why don't you call them your workers
@ that's what it means in the original Hebrew.
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I think Buddha said to his followers not to indulge in slavery if i remember correctly.
where's the video for the full debate with Dan McClellan?
On my bless God studios channel
@@RuslanKD ty, I had to type it in the search bar as it's not linked in the 'intro' blurb box thing - the bless God Studios I mean, not the video
And what type of Christians were removing those verses from the Bible?
It would be interesting to contrast slavery in the New World under the Spanish as opposed to the English and the mitigating influence of the Catholic Church.
Plenty have engaged with this argument. Dr. Josh Bowen has written an entire book on this as well as done hours of online podcasts explaining why the argument isn’t as strong as many believe it to be. Alex had him on his show. Dan also has talked at length about this addressing arguments along the lines of what IP has put forth. Same with Dr. Kipp, etc… There are myriad valid responses available online.
Yep. These people are easily outgunned
Dr Ortlund & Trent Horn have addressed Dr Josh Bowen’s arguments in a debate they did with him…
@@sjappiyah4071
....and lost.
Gregory of Nyssa W
End of the day, it was said that slavery over certain peoples were ok! It’s was also allowed for people to beat their slaves as long as it wasn’t to death or severe! Just don’t try and twist it because some Christians didn’t like slavery that the bible wasn’t for it or cool with it
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Mike Jones is the man
Tom Holland is a believer.. You should have him on
9:00 - 9:05 it probably won’t be there too much longer…
Right! They'll call it "DEI" and get it taken off the display.
Why does an all powerful god need to take time?
@JackStraw-d8b He doesn't, but because he didn't make us robots, he doesn't enforce his sovereignty in all aspects at all time. With a gentle and guiding hand, he is waiting on humanity to grow. 2 Peter 3:9 "The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance
He doesn't, but because he didn't make us robots, he doesn't enforce his sovereignty in all aspects at all time. With a gentle and guiding hand, he is waiting on humanity to grow. 2 Peter 3:9 "The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance
God clearly told us what to do and we don’t listen!
Wonder how many books (minus one) the slave Bible has?
Hey Atheists,what's wrong with slavery?
Well according to the Bible. Nothing.
@@Alien1375did you not watch the whole video?
Simple human empathy clearly makes it immoral. I can’t even believe you need this explained to you.
@@pwillis1589why does empathy make it immoral?
@@pwillis1589if you were born in India and slavery was beyond acceptable, what happened to your human morality? Is it just not there?
GOATed Gregory of Nyssa. Wonder what his religion was!
6:08 neither Jews nor Christians are the southern kingdom YahuaDah and the Yahuadeem elect.....
Paul sometimes don't explain the Christian context, but only tells Jesus died and rose 3 days later.
Basically that's the most important point of Christianity.
In the Chinese web, there are people commented even on Jew goes to war😳........(Expecting God people must be "saint" though out history or else it's "evil"... ).....image who don't in those barbarian era?
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Could’ve god just said don’t own salves instead of around about way you just said. Lol
To be fair, he’d have to actually exist in order to do that lol
"Christianity was like a depth charge."
Nope. Humanism was like a depth charge. Chattel slavery was perpetuated for more than a thousand years by Christians. It was only after the advent of Humanism the slavery was abolished, and Christians had to borrow from Humanism in order to oppose slavery.
😂 William Wilberforce (1759-1833) was an evangelical Christian who campaigned for social reform and the ab- olition of the slave trade
Would you like more
@@nataliamundell6266
Therefore what, child?
@@cygnusustuscalling someone a child doesn’t help your argument it only makes you look insecure about your position
@@GrantFellers-n7w
It wasn't meant to, child. It was a suggestion that they up your game a bit and start actually defending their beliefs like an adult.
@@cygnusustus you got me dad. I guess you destroyed me with facts and logic. But in all seriousness he did you just ignored it and called him a child. Like I said before they doesn’t make you look good it ironically makes you seem like the child
Slavery existed and God says...ALL SLAVERY ENDS AFTER 6 SIX YEARS.
Example of humanity 6000 years typology.
Ya my 1 hour video Debunks Alex O'Connor on slavery 🎉
@@S33THEFUTURE also Deuteronomy 23:15-16 gives the out for all slaves. They could leave their masters with impunity. So if anyone remained a slave during that time, they chose to stay.
@DreltheLayGirl yep. Jesus was pierced for his bride also being the door 🚪 Exodus 21 6
I love Mike's work and subscribe to his channel, however I strongly disagree with his belief in Theistic Evolution.
Now i'm starting to get what appologists are 😂😂
Hired by the church they defend
Folks who read the entire Bible and not just the convenient parts?
@DreltheLayGirl yup and then when the awful parts come up.... They give 101 excuses to explain it instead of admitting it was written by simple minded men of that time.
@@rickvade why ask Christians what they believe about their own book if you don’t actually care about the answer?
@@DreltheLayGirl when did i ask something ?
Honestly believe that one of the worse things that happened to the Bible was the addition of verses!
One thing I dont understand is, that why we are trying as christians defend God, we should defend our faith and know why we belive. And yes our God flood, burn, send nation agains nation, send nations to slavery, but he ia just God, so I belive in his jugment. So lets send moralist as O Connor or anybody else where they belong as those ppl have zero standing in morals. Our God dont need for us to defend his action, we just should understand it.
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How much more clear can it get? There is no commandment that says “Thou shalt not own another human being as property”. Owning a slave is not a sin. Exodus 21 tells you where to buy slaves, how long you can keep them for, how you can treat them, etc. Anybody who tries to twist the meaning of this knows it is immoral to own slaves and wants to falsely defend the Bible. For example, there is absolutely no mention of the words “indentured servitude” in the Bible, but apologist will swear that is what it means. In any case, that is STILL owning another human being as property. It doesn’t matter if they were treated nice or were let go after some years…slavery is slavery no matter how much you try to sugarcoat it. The laws governing non-Hebrew slaves were more harsh than those governing Hebrew slaves: non-Hebrew slaves could be owned permanently, and bequeathed to the owner's children, whereas Hebrew slaves were treated as servants, and were released after six years of service or the occurrence of a jubilee year. If slavery were ever re-instituted and you yourself were likely to to be enslaved, would you then consider slavery wrong? If the answer is yes, then slavery is wrong. There are some moral absolutes that transcend religion.
Kind of funny that those who get outraged like this don't truly understand how actually evil the ancient world was. Not only this, but the same people who don't understand the evils of the ancient world also don't understand the difference in types of laws given in the Old Testament meaning, most of the laws in the Old Testament were case laws and ceremonial laws, not actual commands for the Isrealites to implement. There's a difference in giving laws that govern current behavior and laws that are meant to change behavior.
@ Any more excuses or are you finished now?
You realize there's been a whole other testament since then, right?
@@kirkdarling4120 In Ephesians 6:5-8, Paul states "Slaves, be obedient to your human masters with fear and trembling, in sincerity of heart, as to Christ." Similar statements regarding obedient slaves can be found in Colossians 3:22-24, 1 Timothy 6:1-2, and Titus 2:9-10
Yes, I’m very well aware of the New Testament
@@Bugsy0333 You have the wrong edition.
"Not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but as the servants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart"
-Ephesians 6
It seems the idol Jahweh cares more about not eating pork and not mixing textiles then abolishing slavery. 😅
Ignorance is bliss!
Hypocrat
They didn't need to twist it. They just needed to keep the verses thar actually mention slavery and all condone/ allow/ regulate it. With few exceptions/ improvements for Hebrews themselves.
"It's always 'Christians' don't have a position on slalvery'."
Uh.....nope. That is not the position. The position is that the Bible condones slavery.
Are you no paying attention?
I think if Paul had said slavery is a sin. Or that the ideal for the church is to abolish slavery. I think you’d guys would have a point.
But instead I see this all as making the Bible say what you want it to say. I definitely think the NT doesn’t condemn slavery but regulates it.
Why would you advocate that statement? Not good for your own safety if you accept a Christian can enslave an atheist.
@@omnikevlar2338 read Philemon again. Paul said specifically that right now, slavery has to be there, but it won't last forever. Paul may be thinking of heaven, but what if he is teavhing something else?
I went and found the verse I was talking about in replying to your other comment elsewhere in this section. 1 Timothy 1:8-11 Paul is talking about how God's law is intended to condemn people who rebel against God, and he launches into a list of examples of such people, one of which is slave traders. My interpretation is that that's Paul listing slavery as a sin.
In 1 Corinthians 7:17-24 while Paul is making a point that your Earthly status doesn't affect your status in the Kingdom of God and most people should retain their existing culture or social status, he throws in an aside that slaves should gain their freedom if they can. In other words, even though being enslaved doesn't diminish their value in God's eyes, it's certainly not a state Paul wants them to stay in.
There are also arguments that Philemon is basically Paul nullifying a slave contract.
Also I'm not sure if this point came across in the video, but I think the reason why the NT writers never called the church to abolish slavery was because they lived in a society where ordinary citizens didn't have that kind of social reforming power. I think buying and freeing slaves from markets in large numbers and raiding slave ships were the best they could do at the time (which they did). The call to politically abolish the institution on a large scale only came up once Christianity started to have political power.
Valid point ☝️
Factually incorrect. Some Greek philosophers hundreds of years BCE questioned the morality of slavery.
Sources please
@antonioperez4091 Diogenes Laertius, Dio Chrysostom, and In "The Republic" Plato makes an argument that slavery is unjust. My contention isn't that slavery hasn't always existed as it still does, but that only secular laws have made it illegal and that while for thousands of years it was accepted, it was accepted on very dubious excuses and justified so people could feel OK about themselves. Just as Christian apologists do today to justify the clearly immoral teachings and instructions of their god.
@@pwillis1589that was only against having Greek slaves and your claims about the Christian God are quite simply fallacious.
Define immoral. Don't tell me immorality is based on your own opinion regardless of your sense of grandeur or mental gymnastics.
@ No the christian bible clearly advocates for and in fact encourages slavery, it says so explicitly in Exodus, Leviticus, and Deuteronomy.
"What was kept (in the slave Bible)? Verses that justified slavery."
Nope. You're lying. Exodus 21 justifies slavery. It is not in the slave Bible. Leviticus 25 justifies slavery. It is not in the slave bible. Numbers 31 justifies slavery. It is not in the slave Bible. Deuteronomy 20 justifies slavery. It is not in the slave Bible.
If you have to lie to defend your beliefs, it is time to get new beliefs!