Sneakers VS Formal Footwear
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
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This video is about sneakers and sneaker culture and compares them to the recent rise in more formal footwear options
Other subjects include:
Nike, Dunks, sneaker reselling, Jordan Ones, Adidas, converse, Dr. Martens, new balance, Guidi, Margiela Tabis, shoes
To clarify, I used the term 'formal footwear' mainly from the perspective of streetwear or mainstream fashion where pretty much any more traditional/classic shoe or boot would be considered 'formal' compared to sneakers. Anyone who is properly into 'real' formal shoes would likely say that no Doc Martens are formal. Essentially I am referring to most shoes that are considered more formal or smarter than sneakers/trainers which are mainly leather shoes and boots but there are obviously some exceptions to that.
Your shoe videos are America and England focused. In Europe we have a different shoe culture you should try to cover us I think
You could have just said classic footwear
i agree. the reason why DMs and loafers got into street wear is its a casual shoe to begin with.
@daseapickleofjustice7231 Europe aka what a after thought would look like as a continent
@@takumifujiwara2951 thas crazy, your banger playlist is 2pac, thas craaaaazy
Thanks for talking about how Doc Martens are made novadays and pointing out Solovairs. The hype should be about quality and probably materials used, not about the sheer brand, and it seems there might be place for that change
I def agree, I’m so glad I did my research and bought Solovairs instead of Docs
docs really are the sneakerhead's boots in this regard. all brand hype and zero build quality. same for timbs.
@@lt3880 yes but quality is not everything (in fact, very little) for most people, looks, versatility, trendiness, and comfort are more important.
@@LeathanArtsame. i plan on keeping and wearing these boots for as long as i live so it’s way better that i bought solovairs instead. i like these more anyway because it doesn’t have the yellow stitching like on the docs.
@@lt3880paying 200+ dollars for subpar quality “work” boots that aren’t even comfortable to wear is crazy. u can get way better higher quality boots for that much.
I’m appreciative of channels like Rose Anvil because they actually dig into the materials making up a shoe. I just bought the Smugs and they’re some of the most solid shoes I’ve ever worn.
Rose Anvil is a shill though
Making fun of America while having many of your videos be extremely American culture focused is such a European move
They can’t stop sniffing our balls 🤷🏿♂️
😂
Why is bro talking about sneakers being consumeristic when fashion is the most consumeristic hobby ever
Idk but the American hate kinda Pissed me off and I love this channel
People 'into' fashion will either thrift or spend a lot of money on a small amount of pieces that are of high quality. Good ethics are generally encouraged in fashion, except when it comes to animal materials where people wear calf leather and such.
@@Whattaname16 American hate isn’t funny anymore the joke is overused
Time to get vintage Florsheim Imperials! Thrifting time!
@@Whattaname16You're soft
Travis Scott cosplaying as William Strobek LMAO
If sneaker culture wasn't mostly hype and more about the actual shoe people wouldn't be saying it's dead
I feel like there's a big group of sneakerheads that are only buying sneakers now to make a profit and don't care for the shoe at all
Well since the "flex culture" is kind of cringe from all the "dads" or kids with rich parents doing it. That's what killed it, most modern sneakerheads are cringe, and there is a ton of gatekeeping that gets annoying. Back in the day it was more welcoming, and it was cool when you encounter someone randomly wearing something cool that wasn't just the most hyped shoes.
Scalpers, they are in every industry
I kind of pity people who have to follow these radically changing trends on a yearly basis. It transcends expressing yourself and becomes just following, (what really are often just bad fashion) trends.
Americans go on vacation in America. Don't talk to me about geography unless you can place Wyoming on a map.
wearing black running shoes with plain clothes is going to be the peek of fasion in a year
then I’ll be a trendsetter
You know I ain't skating in formal shoes
personally the shorts + socks + loafers look is completely rancid to me, but that aside I think this is a positive move to get people out of sneakers and into real footwear.
I agree. Formal shoes tend to use better materials. Hopefully it makes more people care about quality of leather and such
I agree that look is so... ew, and it will be gone by 2026.
used to only wear sneakers, now I wear loafers, mocs, and field boots all made to order since there's a local master leatherworker near me
And these are uncomfortable. You can't compare any classic shoes to Ultraboost.
Ultraboost is like a shoe in the sneaker fan base. Hated by many but is actually one of the most comfortable and versatile shoes year on year.
@@ryuixyui A fully broken in, hand lasted boot made to your custom foot dimensions beats a pair of ultra boosts any day.
@@ieatpanadol1548 Wow, you actually know your shit and you are totally right Lol. Shoes that are lasted to your foot, with foot-forming veg tan leather really is unbeatable. Sneakers are fine but there are levels to this comfort game
@@ryuixyui Only if you wear cheap dress shoes from mall brands. Go for blake stitched or Goodyear welted shoes from the brands you've never heard of, like Allen Edmonds, Alden, Carmina, Red Wing, Grant Stone, etc. and you will see a world of difference.
I am very glad to hear more people talking about quality in fashion, rather than just hype and marketing.
This has GOT to be one of the best fashion YT channels
you're the goat. love your commentary on fashion and society
We can thank Tyler the creator for this trend of formal footwear
He had a bit of influence on it tho
Docs were ruined by greedy private equity. Save your money and get Solovairs instead.
i love the AE1 for it brought back beeing hyped for sneakers that are made by basketballers
Crazy how I saw the Adrian’s and I automatically loved the look of them whiteout knowing they’re popular
I urge formal footwear lovers to give leather soles a chance. Good quality leather shoes have leather soles that erode/shape to your walking pattern. They also have cork insoles which literally mold to the shape of your foot after a few wears. Cork also absorbs shock better than rubber does. You can get shoes that have this starting around $200.
Leather soles are awful when it rains.
@@KlausKokholmPetersen yes I don’t use them in rain.
Yes I was afraid to wear them, but now I love them! I have a collection of Beckett Simonon shoes.
Dawg, you are the goat
I think another thing that killed sneaker culture was the erosion of what originally birthed it: basketball shoes. All the casual/lifestyle sneakers that are popular now are basically all trying to mimic the look of 1980’s-90’s basketball shoes. Companies like Nike and Adidas moved away from using materials like leather to make their shoes to optimize performance. While this does make for lighter, better performing basketball shoes, it totally killed the appeal of wearing them for anything other than playing basketball. Nobody wears Lebrons off the court like Jordans, despite him being one of the famous players, if not people, in the world, because they just simply don’t look as good. Hopefully the hype around Anthony Edwards’ shoes and Devin Booker’s signature shoes being made to look nice on and off the court can help revive the culture.
Anthony Edwards shoes look like hardcore basketball/performance shoes. And the Book1 looks like knockoff AF1. No one is wearing them casually. But you definitely make a point, most athlete's shoes aren't shoes you can wear casually anymore, and that's had a big impact on the sneaker world. Especially since durability and all year versatility is a factory for parents buying their kids shoes. You cant be wearing fabric shoes in the winter.
People were absolutely wearing LeBrons off the court. Back in the 2010s basketball shoes were extremely popular. LeBrons, KDs and Kobes were huge. I still like that style and wish they would bring it back
@@symptomofsouls they have brought them back the expense colorways too. They were all over the Nike clearance sales. The new ones don't look like something you'd wear casually anymore.
@@gilbertoflores7397 the new ones are ugly is why. they could make them look good, they just choose not to
Been digging your channel, was big into archive fashion in the early 2010s, then got disenfranchised and sold most of my pieces. Would love to see a video on casual menswear vs streetwear.
Guidi makes a sneaker silhouette too now. Guidis, Rick Geobaskets and CCP drips are my holy trinity of lush leather fashion sneakers. Cost a small fortune, but ultimately money well spent.
Just got some Guidi 995’s the horse leather is unreal. Need to try cordovan cont. one day
As a puma speedcats (especially those from the 2000s) and ASICS (also onitsuka tiger) endorser, I agree abt the path sneakers are going. I just love how many of these shoes could either be simple, or extremely extra or weird, but they are always unique and very expressive. That “kinda worn out” factor also adds personalization to the sneakers and that’s pretty cool imo
Man this kinda reminds me of workewear almost or retro outfits 50s,60s era clothes having a slight comeback. Don't even get started on heritage boots as that whole scene is insane
interesting video.. all stuff im into.. from Bill Strobeck to Rose Anvil lol.. I was never a 'sneaker head' had my share of Nike's.. always wore skate shoes growing up in the early 2000s..
but last year I decided to finally get some Docs.. i had always wanted to try them.. one thing lead to another.., and after watching alot of Rose Anvil videos,, I got very invested in boots..
now I'm hooked on PNW boots and service boots.. brands like White's, Wesco, Viberg, Frank's, Nick's, JK, Alden, John Lofgren, Oak Street, etc.. learning alot about the history, the Americana, the strong construction, handmade process, all the different leather and tanneries around the world.. its very interesting to me.. and i was never someone who got all that deep with clothes and all..
I've been dabbling with the selvedge denim look as well.. i really like the vintage look to all this stuff and the layers of history behind it
Agree. Crazy I bought my formal shoes handcrafted 7 years ago, and to this day it is in good condition and haven't bought shoes ever since. If the sole or leather breaks I can always take them back to the artisans to fix them. The saying is truth: "You do get what you pay for."
I turned my back on sneakers because of durability. They just don´t last long enough.
In the end: if you're like me and you want comfy shoes, you're still gonna buy sneakers.
"Dr martens are affordable" boy i am poor poor then skdhsksj i saved for ages to get some docs, got them in white to be different from my normal boots. They were ASS. i never managed to break them in bc the stitching over the top of the foot was always hurting me, and i sized up! The white part started peeling off. PEELING OFF. When i manage to spend three figures on shoes again i'll try solovair fr
0:40 I want the state capitals on my desk asap
Another plus of formal footwear is that there surely are a lot of no name or national brands that still make pure leather high quality shoes for way cheaper, like 50$ or less
TLDR you can wear formal shoes with casual outfits but you can't wear casual shoes with formal wear. This therefore proves that overpriced plastic Jordans are an inferior purchase as opposed to equally priced made-to-measure shoes that will last you several resoles and potentially up to a decade or more. Go figure.
Functionally fancy > fashionably disposable.
Depends on the shoes and the outfit. Jordan 1’s can last you decades as well, one of the only Jordans that are built so simple that they can last. But the only good Jordan 1’s are the original 1985 colors, those are timeless - not the endless milking of the new colors.
But you’re right you can’t wear sneakers with formal wear-like a tuxedo or dinner jacket. But you can wear sneakers business casually/a little dressed up-depending on the sneaker. Anyway, this is coming from someone who wears loafers, derbys and sneakers- and used to be a designer shoe salesperson at a high end department store.
But the only sneakers I wear are Chicago 1s, Air Max 90 and Black Cement 3s. My formal shoes vary from Ferragamo, Allen Edmonds, Gucci, hell ALD too. So glad sneaker hype is dying though, too many people hopped on who just want to make a buck or fit in. Variety is the spice of life!
"can't wear casual shoes with formal wear" says who? i'll wear my new rock boots with whatever i want. all my clothes are black anyway
@@HYPERxSONICxFANx2012says him and most other rational people. You “can” wear or do whatever you want, but everyone else will think less of you because you’re consciously deciding to make poor outfits as a fashion statement. You “can” wear sneakers with a suit, but you will look like an idiot.
Formal shoes are dead. They are very uncomfortable. There is a reason why they are practically extinct. There is even a study that links bad footwear to leg injuries and pains. No formal shoe except for Doc Martens give you shock protection so whenever you jump or run, all that impact goes directly to your legs. Add the fact that these formal formals are badly designed to the point that it leaves your feet in a shape that enhances any pressure or impact to your feet.
What's the point of being functionally fancy when your feet are in pain? Move on. Let formal shoes die. There's a reason why everyone uses sneakers.
Made to measure shoes are hot garbage. There's no way it is better performing than a sweatshop formal shoes 😂. In fact sneakers are cheaper and often better. The reason they break is because people actually wear them down to pieces. I still got an OG Ultraboost 1 and it is still comfortable, obviously not as comfortable as the newest ultraboost but still far better than leather shoes.
@@taiteyard3567That's literally what most fashionistas are doing. Most of these fashion icons look stupid.
naah this channel is underrated asf
Yay! Your video on my birthday is the best gift possible!
SUPER SMASH BROTHERS MELEE OUTRO!
i told yall that the replica market was gonna crash reseller wallets, after taking my 4th L on an app and paying hundreds of dollars to 12 year olds for shoes i jumped on the rep wagon and i have no regrets, we've reached a point where replica manufacturers want the shoe to be so accurate that often times they look better than the real pair, nike's qc has been on the decline for years and reps exploited that on top of that i only wear sb's and i buy them to skate them, ain't no way in hell im paying more than 120 dollars to destroy them hoes at the skate park in 2 days
this man doesn't miss
nice combos
sneaker> formal footwear> designer
another banger as always, wrong trousers
Another banger as always
of course you're a netplay falco 💀
No offline practice, no warm-up just straight queuing in unranked and SDing in most matches 😎
I kind of like that loafers are in trend, and I have a few pairs myself so yeah...but I still prefer sneakers overall
The pic at 21:11 is from my school lmfao
Legit was just looking to see if you uploaded a new video
Does this mean the leather shoes i've been FEANIN for will get cheaper?
because people grow up. They are not in their teenage years. They have to go work and settle down. No employer nor girls want their boyfriend/partner look like a boy :)
I believe in oxford, combat boot and derby supremacy.🗣
jordans will always be my holy grail
I love a good loafer
melee🔥
Solovair is by far better quality than Docs. It's quite a bit more in cost but they'll last a very long time. Not even the made in england docs compare to solovairs
This a good well written video good job
I find formal footwear ugly and will continue to hate them.
Thanks for sharing bro
i find them boring
Good on you. You don’t have to follow trends. Just wear what you think is cool and you’ll look like you
@@HYPERxSONICxFANx2012 they are.
Dr.Marten’s were killing my feet
Very easy to style and dress up or down in; For every day comfortability or walking I just couldn’t justify the pain
Can’t hate the nice bounce thoe
another banger video
Keep up the content
I ❤ leather shoes, you will have to pry the red wings off my feet or wait till they fall off.
There is no such thing as formal street wear wtf
Guys look! Dad is back with the milk 🙏
Great video
Wait, Paraboot is mainstream now?
look up fiorentini baker
gemmy
well made
Use chinese boi sound effect please
smarter shoes🤓🔥
he said adidas right😭🔥
Nice video
you fools I wear Doctor Martens Newton's
AHDEEDAHS😂😂
it was airship in bred colorway which were banned
Wrong Trousers dropped.
FHTV dropped.
Life good.
freaky ahh thumbnail
ILY wrong trousers😻😊😝😘
Can confirm, solovairs are much better.
Solovair >>>>> Docs
2:49 if you know the real story the shoe wasn't really banned and micael jordan was rocking a different shoe too
wtf is that hat in the into
12th comment
Face reveal bro😎
Good video but you gotta change the background music you use. Sounds like some weird machine whistling noise, it sucks bad.
No ❤️
I think you might not have the full picture on real leather good. Leather, and top grain leather is fairly affordable, "Handmade in Italy" is kind of a scam, they're usually mass manufactured in Italy if you're lucky, Portugal makes pretty good leather footwear, same goes with mexico. And plent of cobblers/leather workers could likely make you the best quality leather footwear for a few hundred dollars. So you paying over 1000 is paying for the brand name more than the actual quality like any regular sneaker brand. Going bespoke would probably best the best route to take, find a good company that does customs, i know a workboot company that takes multiple measurements of your feet before making you boots.
Wrong, Italy is still the best footwear manufacturer and you pay for craftsmanship, heritage and attention to detail. Get a Guidi or CCP and your red wings will look like a childs toy
early with it
Sports legend endorsement giga brand deal: good and high key story telling. Rapper endorsement giga brand deal: bad and poor story telling. i think you've been sipping too hard on the drew joinery koolaid. Dont act like people saw through the veil Nike and Travis put up immediately and just stopped consuming there and then. People ate that shit up hard and it wasnt till 4 years later that people stopped and were like "i'm boooored give me a new micro trend to latch on to funny black men don't do it for me anymore!". It's nothing more than saturation. Celebrity endorsements have almost never killed a trend.
With Nike being a sports trainer brand at the bare minimum, it is expected that they make basketball shoes and therefore sports endorsements are inevitable. The banned campaign was good storytelling as it creatively flipped an obstacle into an advantage for the marketing which fed into the coolness factor for consumers. What value did the Travis Scott shoes provide other than potential resell value? Literally nothing. At best, he appropriated skate culture to line his pockets. You may like the look of the shoes or Travis Scott which is fine but it takes very little critical thinking to see that all Travis cares about is money and hype around his name. I did not say this collab singlehandedly killed sneakerculture, that was due to people getting bored of paying silly resell prices as stated in the video. This collab is the best example that illustrates how sneaker culture cannibalised itself and became all about the reseller market. It was the pinnacle of souless money grab sneaker releases and the fact that it existed foreshadowed the fall of that form of sneaker culture but was by no means the cause. In future, you should pay attention to videos before attempting to critique them.
Cringe video
Sam Hyde meme is appreciated haha
1st :)))))))
Always the dig at Americans 😢
Docs were always tough to break in...its not cuz they are made in china. Stop with the random sinophobia especially considering you were trying to stay away from those "artsis" a moment ago. Wear any actual full grain leather footwear and itll hurt during the break in process kiddo. If anything people try to say the new ones are easier to break in and thats why they are low quality now...
It is common within online fashion discourse to find people complaining about the ongoing pain caused by docs and the lack of quality or durability. On top of that, my girlfriend has worn the same pair of docs nearly every day for over a year and a half and still gets blisters regularly. Hence, it's very clearly a widespread issue that goes past just breaking the shoes in which the brand itself is also aware of considering their recent marketing push for their new softer upper alternatives.
It is commonly known that the quality went down when the manufacturing was moved abroad, but that's not to say all manufacturing in China is bad which is a point that I've addressed on this channel in a previous video. However, in the case of Doc Martens, the quality went down which again the brand is aware of. Why would they promote their 'made in England' as a premium product? Are they sinophobic too?
If you were lucky enough to have received a pair of modern docs that don't constantly hurt your feet and haven't fallen apart after a few years then great, you're very lucky but you need to accept that is not the case for many people. having a tantrum and throwing out silly accusations of sinophobia is a very childish reaction to coming across an opinion you don't agree with 'Kiddo'.
Despite your assumption, I actually own 2 pairs of full-grain leather shoes (boots and derbys) and neither of them has given me a single blister or any pain for that matter. Maybe I am just lucky, but still, Guidi has a reputation for this while the pleather used by Docs does not.
Again, accusing me of sinophobia and then comparing me to naz*s is an incredibly immature way of disagreeing with someone. I do not believe all manufacturing in China is bad. Off the top of my head, Hamcus is one example of a Chinese brand with incredible manufacturing (they own the factories that produce the clothes) which is evident enough scrolling through their website but I am also fortunate enough to own a jacket from them which is by far the most unique and complicated outerwear garment I own which obviously took some incredible craftsmanship to make.
Despite your biases, it is very clear that modern docs are not good quality and Solovair is clearly the superior alternative. Just scroll through the comments for confirmation of that as research and critical thinking are clearly not strengths of yours.
@wrong_trousers no but their creation of made in England line was in response to people's complaints about docs made in asia and china specifically and people been inconsistent with their complaints about them almost as if just the place of manufacture is the issue. Considering the political climate I have every right to be sensitive to sinophobia and perceptions of chinese anything because it's always used a shield for a deeper racism towards asian people. If that's not your intent just be mindful of what you say. And I would say you are lucky if you have never experienced pain in breaking in full leather footwear.
@wrong_trousers to add, the made in England line is actually more painful to break in as the quillon leather is harder and more unforgiving for most people but that's not seen as a sign of poor quality is it? You think people would have the have the same opinion if they were made in china using the same lasts and leather?
No full grain leather is not meant to hurt your feet, that is not a feature its a flaw of poor quality leather with a heavy topcoat, I doubt it even has any grain. Real full grain leather moves with your foot and folds naturally from day 1. China has little to no cobbling history while Italy for example has hundreds of years of cobbling knowledge, making better boots. Join poor leather and poor construction and you get an acceptable but clearly mass produced boot.
11:20 - @mishoamoli
I dont think sneakers as whole will ever go out of style, just the styles of sneakers will change. Currently it seems that people just prefer more "minimal" or whatever type of shoes instead of big bulky basketball shoes
They just like what their originals wear
i like big chunky platform boots
I still wear the big bulky basketball/skate shoes because I hate when my shoes are lightweight like that. Plus low top shoes are uncomfortable
@@symptomofsouls my platforms are pretty heavy. one pair weighs a total of 7 pounds
@@HYPERxSONICxFANx2012 I would look stupid in those tho as a 6'3" white guy. So I stick with the basketball shoes
Your shoe videos are America and England focused. In Europe we have a different shoe culture you should try to cover us I think
@@daseapickleofjustice7231 NO
If the Paraboot and Guidi are interesting to people i could mention few brands worth checking out as im collecting this stuff for years.
J M Weston, Clinch, Viberg, Edward Green, Tricker’s, Fracap, Haferl, GEA, Sandmann, Meermin, Carmina, Grant Stone, Red Wing, Alden, Wesco, White’s, Nick’s, Franck’s, Sagara, Briselblack, Flame Panda, Iron boots
This are just some, main thing is to figure out sizing because all of them are serious boots and shoes that could break your feet if sized extremely wrong but will last you a lifetime with resole and care in case they fit. Hopefully it helps someone to know what to google
glad to know i'm not the only melee player left in the comments section
The lengths people go so their shoes don't look creased fascinates me. Dudes do all this stupid shit as if they want people to think they just bought a fresh pair any time they go out. Why try to convince people that you have that money if don't ? So silly
here i am letting my platforms get a scratch or two here and there
I have a lot of shoes and I stopped caring about creases, most shoes look better a little beat anyways
This whole formal footwear trend reminds me of the mark mcnairy run with derby and vibram soles in the early 2010s i.e. I thought he was influential with the pairing of streetwear fits with formal footwear.