It's funny, because Sonic actually DID love chili dogs in the Saturday morning show, too. IIRC, it came about because ABC executives saw Adventures, saw how cheap it was, and told them to go back to the drawing board. But so much work had already been done on it, they just decided to run it in syndication alongside the more high-quality show.
Your information seems to be similar to what I found about, but with some differences. On Wikipedia, it states that the SatAM cartoon was originally meant to be the only one made by DiC, but the studio's vision of the series conflicted with ABC's. They told DiC that they would not let them make a Sonic cartoon for weekday syndication unless if they were to produce another series to air on those circumstances, while the Sonic cartoon already in development would remain to air on Saturday mornings for ABC. The syndicated show would of course be Adventures. Apparently, the SatAM series was originally meant to be more light-hearted, but its tone changed to becoming darker so to avoid confusion with Adventures. Here's the article: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_the_Hedgehog_(TV_series) I'm not totally sure if this correct, but the whole thing is backed by references, so it probably is. Do you remember where you found your information Geek Critique? You probably know better places to search than I do (I've seen your videos plenty of times before so I know you're a big Sonic guy, whereas I'm mostly familiar with the Genesis era and the Sonic Adventure games, as well as the early 90s cartoons). If anybody else can prove any of this stuff, that would also be greatly appreciated.
I was the only kid in my school that had a Sega Genesis and a GameGear. It was like this for me in the afternoons. Classmates: Check it out man, I got Mortal Kombat on Gameboy! Me: I've got that game on game gear. Classmate: whats so great about that? Me: Its in color! then it was: Classmate: Yea! I've got the new gameboy pocket me: Still not in color! then finally: Classmate: check it out! I've got the gameboy color! me: and I'm stuck with this six battery brick that only last 20 minutes! FUCK! MOM!! WILL YOU BUY ME A GAMEBOY COLOR? Mom: you've already got a gamegear Me: But mom they havent made a new game since 1993! MOM: so? me: FUUUCK! next month: Mom: here son. Me: Whats this? Mom Its a Tiger Electronic's Bart vs the Space Mutants ME:FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!
+darkservantofheaven I had a gamegear, no regrets. No battery issues either, I just plugged it in, and in the car I had a car adapter that plugged into the cigarette lighter port. Still today prefer that style of handheld, with the PSP and Vita.
It's been a year... do you now know the difference between "then" and "than", which you had misused? ...It's OK - better to have misspelled it *then* and learned the correct spelling by NOW *than* to keep being in the dark and making the same mistake over agian. ;P
1) The only reason for the laundromat message was because at the time a child did climb in one and died. It was all over the news. 2) AOSTH actualy had some really heat felt episodes and some actually tense episodes as well. They are just few and far between. AOSTH also did one thing no other Sonic show has done. It showed Sonic and Tails as brothers to each other, not just friends.
***** Indeed. I would never say AOSTH is great by any stretch, but it did have it's hidden gem episodes. If you ever get the desire. Look up the episode Tails New Home, it's actually quite heartfelt. For a zany 90's show meant to emulate Looony Toons that is.
shadowspider9 Actually the new Sonic Boom cartoon also touches upon the bromance between Sonic and Tails as well. Like in the first episode, The Sidekick, where Sonic finds a new sidekick to protect Tails after being severely injured at a battle.
Soni TH Sad thing is AOSTH did that episode, and did it better. Delving more on the idea of Sonic considering Tails his younger brother and the two being family. That's actually why I didn't bother watching Boom. I saw the first episode and realized, wow, AOSTH did this idea better 20 years ago.
I think The Flinstones deserves its spot as a classic. Although, I thought The Jetsons was a better show. It had better visuals, animation, funnier characters, and a brighter, more vibrant color palette.
***** Hay Flintstones just kept coming back, it never really stopped.... Yet amazingly no one ever done a Jetson's reboot...... I mean it a sci-fi sitcom.... and they have been proven sucessful, but also in short supply. So seems weird.
Well & with "Space Jam" they complained Lola Bunny had no personality. In the Sat a.m. one you got that half mechanical girl Bunny that DEFINITELY had a personality & a Damn Good One
The only other time I can think of when a Dark & Edgy show and a Light & Soft show of the same franchise run at the same time is Transformers with Prime (Dark & Edgy) and Rescue Bots (Light & Soft).
I never saw the Saturday morning cartoon as a kid, but I remember very well seeing the weekday show all the time. Other than Robotnik, my favorite character was his mom who actually appeared in a couple of episodes, especially the one where she's fighting off a female bounty hunter who wants to get married to her son.
@marcusporter9319 No, that was Adventures of Sonic of Hedgehog with Catella and Momma Robotnik and the catfight of century. ruclips.net/video/925aWc7wHso/видео.html
*SPOILER ALERT* The guy at the end was Ixis Naugus. He was supposed to be the new bad guy in season 3. Snively was supposed to join the Freedom Fighters in earnest effort to defeat Naugus.
kevin willems the man behind the original satam wanted to continue the series about 3 times and every time he was shot down by sega. Snivley was suppised to be an even more bigger thrrat than robotnik and naugus was going to betray him to the point where he had to joing the freedom fighters to stop him.
Cosmic Cosmo I certainly would like to have seen that. How DARE those assholes persistently deny him the right to continue the series! (With that said, though, I still think the series ended on a fairly solid note, that cliffhanger aside.) Also, there are a lot of spelling errors in your reply.
I was right in the right age range when the cartoons came out and by far I preferred the AM show. I mean sure the sonic games were colorful and on the surface light hearted but I would always remember every single robot I destroyed with a small baby animal jumping out means that Robotnik took all these poor baby animals and stuffed them into these robotic death dealers. Plus once you get to the final level of all those games it was pretty dark so to me the AM show was more accepting of the dark reality that Robotnik has taken over and Sonic must overcome an army of robots in order to save the world. But I get it Sega wanted a cartoon show for each of their demographics, the really young kids who only pay attention to how cute tails is and the older kids who are more into the darker aspects of what was insinuated in the game.
I enjoy The Adventures of Sonic The Hedgehog more than SatAM. AoSTH is enjoyably cheesy and fun, along with having a hilariously over the top villain, while SatAM is a little too serious for my tastes.
***** Yeah, right on! I actually enjoyed that show as well. I mean, sure it was enjoyably cheesy and silly, but that's what we loved about the show from our childhood and even now, we're still gonna keep loving it for nostalgia.
***** Yeah, and AOSTH didn't pretend to be more than it was, Doug tends to forget SATAM had ALOT of goofy moments in it too, and I don't agree them downplaying Tails was a good idea. That's like downplaying Luigi, or another sidekick character to the point they're barely in it.
Greatsaiyakirby Doug didn't forget, if you watch this video he verbally acknowledges that it had its goofy moments. He even admits that Avatar had its goofy moments. But SatAM want trying to be something it wasn't. It was actually closer to the video games stories and world than SatAM ever was.
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To be honest, the only Hanna-Barbara cartoon I really like is Tom and Jerry (the original run until the Gene Deitch era) though Scooby Doo is pretty entertaining too (before Scrappy was introduced anyway.) Although I admire Chuck Jones's work for Looney Tunes, I hate is run with Tom and Jerry.
As cool as Robotnik's voice was in SatAM, I can't get past the way he looks. It's just so silly and weird. His head looks like squash, his outfit looks like cheesy 80s sci-fi, and what's up with the gaping black holes with red dots for his eyes? It doesn't even look scary (to me, at least), just weird. The AoStH version of Robotnik isn't any better either. I prefer the game designs for Eggman. Sure they're kinda silly too, but in a fun way, not an ugly or unpleasant way.
What's even stranger is that they made the SatAM cartoon and the Adventures cartoon into on show here in germany, and every few episodes was a SatAm episode, the rest was Adventures. Back then it mast have been really confusing to watch as a kid...
I would REALLY like you guys to do a review on the show Reboot. It was massively popular. One of THE most cleverly written shows for its time. It had great characters that were incredibly memorable, great voice acting, great story...setting. In my opinion..it had it all. It has one of the biggest fan bases, so much so, that it is now on its way to making a comeback by demand (it just took forever and a day for it to happen). A new Reboot show is currently in the making as we speak by Rainmaker Entertainment.
The Alien movies are more down to Earth than Metroid ever was. Also the only Metroid games they could probably make a movie out of is Prime 3 or Other M, because every other game has a blatant lack of other characters.
In regards to the comic, I can tell you now NEITHER of you will like it. Sega kinda ignored the comics for a while, and the art as well as the quality of the story went real down hill when a dude named Ken Penders made the comics extremely fanfic tier. They recently did a soft-reboot of the comics, after Penders left the company because they demoted him for a bit cause they realized his work was shit, and claimed legal rights on some people. Though before the reboot the current writer did bring the quality up a ton, I honestly forget issue numbers though.
Mamaspeeder Well for the issue Ian Flynn first wrote, it's 160 but when it comes to after the Worlds Collide crossover, 252. As you can see I'm a pretty good fan of the comic but that's probably because of Ian.
Soni TH Yeah, I kinda hate we didn't get to see where Ian was going with the old universe but what can you do when a bad comic artist can't handle his publisher noticed how shit he was.
Good thing Ian is working on a book called Lost Hedgehog Tales about prior ideas on what he was going to do with the old universe before the Pendering. Ian did do a lot better than Penders despite having to clean up all the mess Penders created. The new universe is something I do prefer since it wasn't as busy as the old one but not saying the old universe was bad, I would prefer the comic to atleast put a unique enough but still have a similarity to the games.
THANK YOU he praises Jim that man is a serious bad ass with his voice acting that man has it look at this and Mega Duck that man has such a bone chilling way of pulling off badass and dark dark dark
To me the SatAMshow still continues to be the best of all the Sonic the Hedgehog cartoons. I mean we had Sonic Underground, which the biggest mistakes were changing Robotnik's voice actor and making Sonic and his siblings sing terrible 80's styled songs. then we got 4kids and their Horrendous dubbing of Sonic X, they just took out many of the jokes that would have been funny (if you've seen the Japanese dub the pain of seeing Chris Thorndyke into a whiny brat is real.) Then we got the current Show on TV called Sonic Boom, which it does alright though we could use a bit more original of a plot point other than Eggman tricks Sonic and Co. Only to have his plot foiled as soon as he reveals it.
TurboThunderbolt I never quite got what was bad about the dubbing. The voice work ranged from fine to amazing, so was it just the script? Because I can see that.
TurboThunderbolt I actually enjoyed the songs in Sonic Underground. As for Sonic X, I've seen both the dub and the Japanese version, and... I prefer the dub. This is mainly because the first episode of the dub was funnier, especially when Sonic was on top of the car. I'll take "Don't use Formula One race cars to catch a hedgehog" over "Don't stand on moving cars"
***** I see. I actually feel that the humor meshed quite well with the action of the show. The way I see it, sometimes the humor was needed to add some levity to the darkness that was throughout the series. But I do respect your opinion, and I see where you're coming from. Out of curiosity, which of the sonic shows is your favorite?
***** I actually feel the same way about Sonic X that you do. It's also the first of the Sonic shows that I watched, and I had seen that, and the other 3 shows that had come out prior to it, before I had played any of the actual games. Even better: Before I saw Sonic X, I didn't even know that much about Sonic at all. I knew some of the names of the characters, but that's about it. Now, I'm more of a Sonic fan than I am of a Mario fan, even though I still haven't played that many games in either franchise.
Am I the only one who wants to see Doug play Sonic 06? I know game reviews ain't his thing but you have to admit it'd be so funny to watch him get mad at every loading screen and glitch, he'd probably break a few remotes!
Does anyone remember the 4 part chaos emerald AoSTH special? That was pretty dark for that version of the show, Robotnik actually nearly won. Also Tails In Charge where Scratch and Grounder turn sonic to stone and Tails has to save him was a great episode and really dark too
I think the comparison between 60s Adam West Batman and AoStH is pretty spot on. I could never call it a cheap show, though. The only stuff that was phoned in was maybe Sonic and Tails' character, but all of the stuff between Robotnik, Scratch and Grounder... that's just pure, whole-hearted, wacky cartoon insanity that puts Looney Toons to shame.
I've watched a bit of it on your guys' recommendation, it reminds me of all the old, non-Disney, cartoon movies that I used to watch on VHS as a kid, the ones like Land Before Time that told a dramatic story of an epic adventure and weren't afraid to go dark with their stories, and I really like that about it
4:38 am I the only who noticed how often they do that? How often they say "UM" at the exact same time? Besides that bit of weird trivia, yeah they pretty much covered both Sonic cartoons exactly.... WHY CLIFFHANGER, WHY!!!?
Scooby Doo cheats, tho'. They show you the culprit for like two seconds, or barely reference them, then spend the rest of the show finding motives for every other character, then finally bring back the culprit with some unexplored motive right at the very end. It's always a blindside. 'cept that one episode where it was Velma the whole time. Now *that* was a trip.
I grew up watching Sonic Underground in the late 90s and remember loving the show and especially the closing credit's theme song which was epic! Then years later Sonic X came along, I was no fan of anime and never will be, so I hated it right through. Tried to enjoy it but eh... just didn't work for me.
And then here I am, introduced to Sonic by Sonic X, LOVED the anime to death, was ok with Underground (I just loved Sleet and Dingo so much to hate it...but that singing, man), loving Sonic Boom to death...but never giving a darn over SatAM and Adventures. Adventures because, meh. I just didn't like it, while SatAM reminds me to much of the comics, which I really don't like...at all.
+12:50 actually, there WAS at least one SATAM episode where the chili dog thing came up... can't remember all the details, but sonic and sally go back in time somehow to before robotnik took over the kingdom, and meet their younger selves, and OF COURSE sonic gets into a pissing contest with himself that ends with them both scarfing a chili dog at the same time and then burping while both sally's just look on while saying something derogatory about boys....
Hey, guys! You probably won't see this. Doesn't matter. I watched Sonic SatAM recently because of your review and it was amazing. Thanks for recommending it!
I'm surprised Doug never understood the cartoon- it reminds me a lot of looney tunes- like a fusion of the bugs bunny and road runner/wily coyote cartoons.
Actually, chili dogs do play a role in the serious Sonic cartoon. He had an uncle whose chili dog restaurant was destroyed. The difference is that this show merely references that motive whereas the other one turned it into a recurring joke. For some reason chili dogs have always been Sonics favourite food, don't ask me who came up with that idea in the first place.
Sandro Algra Barradas Well, the restaurant chain named SONIC - which was promoting using the hedgehog for a time - made chili dogs its STAPLE food. Plus, each character has their favorite food. Sonic has chili dogs, Mario has mushrooms and pasta, etc.
They even made it Canon as of black knight and on cause in said game he's eating two in the opening and if you get one in game the description sez it's his fav food
personally, I always saw the afternoon show as having more of a looney tunes vibe...the giveaway is the ending animation, which was basically a blatant ripoff of the wile e. coyote/road runner formula. just my two bits, though.
Yeah, the mystery eyes in that final episode belonged to Ixis Naugus, who was in a previous episode the same season. In regards to the comics, I actually liked the comics. It carried on the same basic story, and the story that started in the SatAM series ultimately concluded with a four part story called End Game (Issues #47-50), where basically they tried to kill off Princess Sally, and Sonic was blamed for her murder. That's the darkest I've seen the Sonic stories get, and it was even darker than the series finale, but MUCH more satisfying, as we see a much more serious and mature Sonic that displayed emotions about Sally. If you could find End Game and read it, I think you'd be quite satisfied with it.
This whole review genuinely hurts me inside, because I LOVED the NC review of The Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog. It was hilarious, and I think his anger and hatred of the show, for the most part, is well justified. So them saying that there’s nothing to really get upset about and that it’s just a goofy show for five-year-olds really seems to spoil everything for me. I personally cannot stand almost ANY show that’s supposed to just be mindless entertainment for kids and toddlers, and while I certainly don’t think this show is the worst of all, I think kids (and adults, for that matter) deserve MUCH better than campy cartoon nonsense. I guess I just like the darker, grittier shows more, and if they’re able to balance out some goofy cartoon humor (and if the humor itself is good), that’s great. You get the best of both worlds that way.
Best of both worlds in what sense? Both AoStH and SatAM aimed for completely tones and styles, fusing them together would make a contradictory and confused mess that suffers an identity crises and makes no one happy. Not everything needs to be deep or sophisticated, junk food exists.
Rob: I guess you can make a Dark version of Sonic but that would unrealised Me: there’s already a Dark version of Sonic and his name is Shadow (also if anyone watch Sonic X Cartoon Sonic technically got a second form that’s when Sonic get angry after see his friends getting hurt by a villain Sonic’s blue quills turn dark and his eyes just becomes white and he become Dark Sonic and he’s dangerous in that form because when he’s that form he won’t stop beating the snot out of you)
You should do a review of beast wars! IMO best transformers show ( haven't seen the new ones). But the way the writers took jabs at Hasbro for making them upgrade their characters to match the new toy lines was genius. Also cool how it tied into the franchise.
The Real Ghostbusters, Darkwing Duck, and Bonkers are three shows that come to mine that had a weekday afternoon showing and a weekend network version. (Not counting repeats.)
In 1981 two animated Spider-Man shows ran at exactly the same time on the same day. They both had the same music, sound effects and animation style, however they had different voice actors
Totally unrelated, and don't know if Doug or Rob ever read these YT comments, but I gotta ask... Why has there never been a Nostalgia Critic done on Kevin Smith's Clerks? Or Mallrats? Or Chasing Amy? Or Dogma? I kinda want to see that. ((Also, this may or may not have been brought about from an all-night Movie Bob binge.))
shows from games sonic-wise AOSTH - sonic 1-2 SAT AM - kind of unleashed underground - uhhhhhhh... Sonic X - Sonic adventure and sonic adventure 2 OVA/movie - Sonic CD sonic boom - sonic heroes
You mention The Super Mario Brothers Super Show, and that always seem to be the Mario-themed show people remember. But do you remember that there also was a "Super Mario Brothers 3"-cartoon (with the Koopa kids in it) and a "Super Mario World"-cartoon (with Yoshi in it)? Maybe the Nostalgic Critic could look at them and reflect if they still hold up?
Jonas Bjerregaard Here in Finland one company started selling 'Super Mario Bros.' cartoon DVD box and I thought that it was really great that we finally had a DVD box of those cartoons from Super Mario Bros Super Show. I bought that box and was very disappointed because it was the 'Super Mario Bros. 3' cartoon. I only have one VHS tape of Super Mario Bros Super Show and the Mario cartoons in it were much better than 'Super Mario Bros. 3' cartoon. (And I really want the DVD box with the Finnish dub because it was legendary.)
Jonas Bjerregaard Personally, I think that a new Mario show in this day and age should go something like this: Start with a story that tells the "Bowser kidnaps Peach" story, (Probably along the lines of Super Mario Adventures), then base the following seasons on the first two Mario and Luigi games starting with Superstar Saga as season 2; it would be balls to the wall fantastic. Maybe work Sunshine in, or possibly the Galaxy 1/2 in a single season, then 3D world as the late ones. It would end or begin a new arc with Mario and Luigi Dream Team or Bowser's Inside Story. If not as a show, than maybe archie could pick that up seeing as how Smash exists.
Why 2 shows at the same time? Adventures was supposed to get the Saturday morning spot, but abc hated the show, rejected it outright, and commissioned a new show, which became SatAm. The Adventures show was then sold into syndication to recoup the cost of making the show.
There actually has been one other time when a dark, grim animated adaptation of something aired alongside a bright, cheerful, kid friendly one with little to no effort put in to it: Transformers Prime (dark, violent, incredibly awesome) and Transformers Rescue Bots (intended for toddlers).
I would interested in seeing your real thoughts on Water World. I remember during the NC review you said it was not a bad movie, just average. I would like to hear your expanded thoughts on the averageness of it.
I love sonic the hedgehog in my fandom I say the adventures of sonic the hedgehog and sonic Satam go together and the games also I mean sonic was voiced by Jaleel white in both so I say they go together that he's just younger which is why is lighter I mean yes of course sonic satam is better but adventures of sonic the hedgehog is good also I mean if U like looney tunes u should like it I love the adventures of sonic the hedgehog and sonic satam it's my favorite series if u combined the two its 92 episodes I love sonic
1983 had two James Bond movies come out the same year with Roger Moore in the officially-in-canon Octopussy while Sean Connery played Bond in the not-in-canon Never Say Never Again. That's probably the closest thing to a franchise spawning two different movies and/or shows in the same year.
simpsonsfan89NSNA came about because long story short a the author "stole" some plot points from some guy for the book Thunderball and he sued when they made the movie so he got the write to remake a new one after 10 years, so they made NSNA. But he had the write to make it over and over again and in the late 1990s he going to reremake thunderball as Warhead2000. jamesbond.wikia.com/wiki/Warhead_2000
MattTheReaper I have every one up to when they crossover with Mega-Man. All I can tell you is that it's basically Sonic flipflopping between girls and then back. The latest one had him with Amy (from the ones I'm reading). What I hate is that they just dumped Mina and gave her a relationship with her manager Ash. The girl got shot for Sonic and they just pair her up with someone else. Oddly enough I was okay when she was paired with Tails in the Future arc (where he's married to Sally).
I'd actually like to know Doug and Rob's opinions of the first pokemon movie now. I mean they didn't watch the show and they never grew up with it or the games and more games and pokemon are out now. Did their opinions change at all? I don't think i't's likely but still, it could be interesting just hearing what went through their minds about it. I grew up with the Movie and I love the games, even the modern ones, but I know the movie and TV show isn't very good, or at least wasn't very good. They should sit down and talk about that one if they have anything they want to say. It doesn't even have to be long, I'd just like to see what they think.
I can personally testify that you're not the only one who combined two things when you were a kid. I used to combine terminator and DBZ for some reason, basically were xray drawings where one half was the dbz character and the other half was a mechanical exoskeleton.
When they brought up that there weren't any dark cartoons in the Disney afternoon with an ongoing villain and plot, am I the only one who wanted to say; "What about Gargoyles?"
10:39 Is this a generation thing? Cos I'm nearly the same age as Doug and I remember doing mashups of my favourite cartoon characters and superheroes all the time! Especially the Wombles - I had them as the X-Men, the Justice League, even the Power Rangers!
I wouldn't say it's generational per say, I'm 13 and I like to combine my favorite 80s and 90s shows in custom comics. I did a mini series about ninja turtles and mighty morphin power rangers with cameos by wolverine, Papa smurf, Scrooge McDuck, and others.
Is he really asking how you get a pumpkin from a hand in a Cartoon show???? Really??? Cartoon logic.... there is none. Since when do cartoon's have to make sense? Even the dumb ones.
i would admit i would love a prequel series or even a mini series to Avatar, we got a little bit with Roku's back story but what if we got a show of a younger Roku, we get to watch the falling out Between Roku and the fire lord in more detail. start off with things looking good and end it on the rise of the Fire Nation. or a story of Iroh before he lost his son
Sonic Boom is lighthearted like Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog but a lot less silly. It's also very funny. The first 25 episodes are on Dailymotion. It's a decent show, better than a lot of people thought it would be. Just throwing that out there.
You should do a nostalgia critic on the Hanna Barbara cartoons, the same way you did the Disney Afternoon where you covered all of them. The only issue, would be that the cartoons are really old, though a lot of them were playing in our childhood.
I actually remember reading the Archie comics. There's tons of issues and tons of side-comics (about Knuckles and some of the others). I remember enjoying it quite a bit. The beginning (maybe first 10-20 issues) were a bit too light-hearted (like, somewhere between AotStH and SatAM), but then it picked up more and more seriousness, grittiness and drama. At the end though it became too convoluted, too reliant on side-stories and I dropped it. I also found out a year ago that it got cancelled about a year after I stopped reading.
Screwed by the Network: Despite pulling in solid ratings against Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers and being connected to a mega-popular video game series, the show got cancelled for two reasons: one, Disney had just bought ABC and decided to clean house concerning their Saturday lineup (which would lead to One Saturday Morning emerging a couple years later), and many of ABC's stations tended to delay the lineup or preempt it entirely to air local news. As a result, some people didn't see the show until USA Network put it on as part of their Action Extreme Team block.
The formula of beginning a story where the antagonist has already won or is already in power is actually extremely common in sagas. Hell, almost every great RPG starts that way. Even the not great ones. The story of the good guy rebels taking on the evil establishment is classic.
frozenaorta it's the underdog story basically. Which was proven by the first rocky is pretty much a solid baseline to start from. everyone feels that way at some point (oppressed by parents, government, "the man", etc) and stories where a character rises up against those challenges makes the viewer feel good even if they can't relate to the exact situation.
The Sonic comic book is actually still going to this day. It's had its ups and downs like any long-running series, but on average it's quite good (especially since Ian Flynn started writing). By the way, there was actually a third Sonic show in the 90s called Sonic Underground. I didn't see it, but from what I've heard it combined the darkness of the SatAM show with the stupidity of the afternoon show. And now there's a new Sonic show running called Sonic Boom. It's similar in tone to the afternoon show.
TheomanZero Its on the verge of being cancelled(Sega of Japan is planning on pulling the plug on it by pulling its license before the end of the year). The Sonic fanbase is currently tainted and Sega wants to re-organize it.
They *DID* make Sonic "darker". And they called him "Shadow". Oh and there's also Dark Super Sonic and the Fleetway Super Sonic, but those are probably best left forgotten.
Hey derps the rebel story appeals to kids especially teens because it reflects the rebellion we tend to feel at those ages. you come up in a world ruled by your oppressor while you fight for independence against your parents rules.How did all of you guys miss this.
It's funny, because Sonic actually DID love chili dogs in the Saturday morning show, too.
IIRC, it came about because ABC executives saw Adventures, saw how cheap it was, and told them to go back to the drawing board. But so much work had already been done on it, they just decided to run it in syndication alongside the more high-quality show.
Your information seems to be similar to what I found about, but with some differences. On Wikipedia, it states that the SatAM cartoon was originally meant to be the only one made by DiC, but the studio's vision of the series conflicted with ABC's. They told DiC that they would not let them make a Sonic cartoon for weekday syndication unless if they were to produce another series to air on those circumstances, while the Sonic cartoon already in development would remain to air on Saturday mornings for ABC. The syndicated show would of course be Adventures. Apparently, the SatAM series was originally meant to be more light-hearted, but its tone changed to becoming darker so to avoid confusion with Adventures.
Here's the article: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_the_Hedgehog_(TV_series)
I'm not totally sure if this correct, but the whole thing is backed by references, so it probably is. Do you remember where you found your information Geek Critique? You probably know better places to search than I do (I've seen your videos plenty of times before so I know you're a big Sonic guy, whereas I'm mostly familiar with the Genesis era and the Sonic Adventure games, as well as the early 90s cartoons). If anybody else can prove any of this stuff, that would also be greatly appreciated.
I was the only kid in my school that had a Sega Genesis and a GameGear. It was like this for me in the afternoons.
Classmates: Check it out man, I got Mortal Kombat on Gameboy!
Me: I've got that game on game gear.
Classmate: whats so great about that?
Me: Its in color!
then it was:
Classmate: Yea! I've got the new gameboy pocket
me: Still not in color!
then finally:
Classmate: check it out! I've got the gameboy color!
me: and I'm stuck with this six battery brick that only last 20 minutes! FUCK! MOM!! WILL YOU BUY ME A GAMEBOY COLOR?
Mom: you've already got a gamegear
Me: But mom they havent made a new game since 1993!
MOM: so?
me: FUUUCK!
next month:
Mom: here son.
Me: Whats this?
Mom Its a Tiger Electronic's Bart vs the Space Mutants
ME:FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!
darkservantofheaven I'm sorry for your loss
darkservantofheaven I had a GameGear and never got a GameBoy and I loved it... but then the DS attacked...
+darkservantofheaven I had a gamegear, no regrets. No battery issues either, I just plugged it in, and in the car I had a car adapter that plugged into the cigarette lighter port. Still today prefer that style of handheld, with the PSP and Vita.
+darkservantofheaven Me currently: 'Hmm, console looks promising..' (downloads the respective emulator and hits up EmuParadise for ROMs/ISOs)
It's been a year... do you now know the difference between "then" and "than", which you had misused? ...It's OK - better to have misspelled it *then* and learned the correct spelling by NOW *than* to keep being in the dark and making the same mistake over agian. ;P
"You can't make Sonic look darker. You can't make him unrecognizable." Oh, Rob. You naive fool. You know not of what you speak...
SuperSonic68 Are you referencing one of the games? I don't get it.
funcoolfunfun
Good. It's probably best you keep it that way.
funcoolfunfun In the year of two thousand s(Takes a bullet to the head)
misterbin00 I still don't get it.
funcoolfunfun Sonic 2006 is probably what they're talking about.
1) The only reason for the laundromat message was because at the time a child did climb in one and died. It was all over the news.
2) AOSTH actualy had some really heat felt episodes and some actually tense episodes as well. They are just few and far between. AOSTH also did one thing no other Sonic show has done. It showed Sonic and Tails as brothers to each other, not just friends.
Those are really good points.
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Indeed. I would never say AOSTH is great by any stretch, but it did have it's hidden gem episodes.
If you ever get the desire. Look up the episode Tails New Home, it's actually quite heartfelt. For a zany 90's show meant to emulate Looony Toons that is.
shadowspider9 Actually the new Sonic Boom cartoon also touches upon the bromance between Sonic and Tails as well. Like in the first episode, The Sidekick, where Sonic finds a new sidekick to protect Tails after being severely injured at a battle.
Soni TH
Sad thing is AOSTH did that episode, and did it better. Delving more on the idea of Sonic considering Tails his younger brother and the two being family.
That's actually why I didn't bother watching Boom. I saw the first episode and realized, wow, AOSTH did this idea better 20 years ago.
Well, I'm pretty sure AoStH was like 20 minutes long while Boom was about 11 minutes so you can only go so much into detail in a quarter-hour episode.
4:38 Synchronized umm-ness. You're brothers alright.
Yup.
If Doug hates The Flintstones so much, I really want to know what he thinks of The Jetsons. XD
Mathieu Leader Yes, but it´s not a very good show
I think The Flinstones deserves its spot as a classic. Although, I thought The Jetsons was a better show. It had better visuals, animation, funnier characters, and a brighter, more vibrant color palette.
***** Hmm.....I wonder.
***** Hay Flintstones just kept coming back, it never really stopped.... Yet amazingly no one ever done a Jetson's reboot...... I mean it a sci-fi sitcom.... and they have been proven sucessful, but also in short supply. So seems weird.
apex2000 Yeah, that is weird.
Why is there nothing covering Sonic Underground with the Nostalgia Critic or Real Thoughts? The idea behind Sonic Underground was interesting.
Well & with "Space Jam" they complained Lola Bunny had no personality. In the Sat a.m. one you got that half mechanical girl Bunny that DEFINITELY had a personality & a Damn Good One
I like how the Archie comics add to the SatAM series having dark moments but still light enough to remain Sonic
Chica chica you really let yourself go...
Blake the radical Gamer O//O; *goes and gets some comfort pizza* TwT
Chica sry
Blake the radical Gamer ...it's ok... *gives you a hug, signaling Foxy not to kill you* ^w^
Chica sry again went to bed was so tired thx chica btw my favorite pizza is dominos
The only other time I can think of when a Dark & Edgy show and a Light & Soft show of the same franchise run at the same time is Transformers with Prime (Dark & Edgy) and Rescue Bots (Light & Soft).
I never saw the Saturday morning cartoon as a kid, but I remember very well seeing the weekday show all the time. Other than Robotnik, my favorite character was his mom who actually appeared in a couple of episodes, especially the one where she's fighting off a female bounty hunter who wants to get married to her son.
@marcusporter9319 No, that was Adventures of Sonic of Hedgehog with Catella and Momma Robotnik and the catfight of century.
ruclips.net/video/925aWc7wHso/видео.html
*SPOILER ALERT*
The guy at the end was Ixis Naugus. He was supposed to be the new bad guy in season 3. Snively was supposed to join the Freedom Fighters in earnest effort to defeat Naugus.
kevin willems the man behind the original satam wanted to continue the series about 3 times and every time he was shot down by sega. Snivley was suppised to be an even more bigger thrrat than robotnik and naugus was going to betray him to the point where he had to joing the freedom fighters to stop him.
Cosmic Cosmo I certainly would like to have seen that. How DARE those assholes persistently deny him the right to continue the series! (With that said, though, I still think the series ended on a fairly solid note, that cliffhanger aside.) Also, there are a lot of spelling errors in your reply.
Just a note: The SatAM one did also like Chili Dogs. It comes up a couple of times.
Yes, but from what I saw, they downplayed it more in that show, thankfully.
I was right in the right age range when the cartoons came out and by far I preferred the AM show. I mean sure the sonic games were colorful and on the surface light hearted but I would always remember every single robot I destroyed with a small baby animal jumping out means that Robotnik took all these poor baby animals and stuffed them into these robotic death dealers. Plus once you get to the final level of all those games it was pretty dark so to me the AM show was more accepting of the dark reality that Robotnik has taken over and Sonic must overcome an army of robots in order to save the world. But I get it Sega wanted a cartoon show for each of their demographics, the really young kids who only pay attention to how cute tails is and the older kids who are more into the darker aspects of what was insinuated in the game.
The comics are based on SatAM, to some extent, but they are by no means a continuation. The comics are the best continuity in my opinion.
I'd say that the Satam sea3on webcomic is the best in terms of writing quality and as a true continuation of the show.
The ending to Sonic the Hedgehog?
One word...
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Rosebud
I thought the one word was Pingas
I haven't heard the word pingas since kitty0706 died. I miss him... that shit was funny :(
DISAPPOINTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FreddyPingus No one was there to hear him say that.
I thank Sonic Mega Collections for introducing me to the Sonic Archie comics!
SAME!!!
SAME
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I enjoy The Adventures of Sonic The Hedgehog more than SatAM. AoSTH is enjoyably cheesy and fun, along with having a hilariously over the top villain, while SatAM is a little too serious for my tastes.
***** Yeah, right on! I actually enjoyed that show as well. I mean, sure it was enjoyably cheesy and silly, but that's what we loved about the show from our childhood and even now, we're still gonna keep loving it for nostalgia.
***** Yeah, and AOSTH didn't pretend to be more than it was, Doug tends to forget SATAM had ALOT of goofy moments in it too, and I don't agree them downplaying Tails was a good idea. That's like downplaying Luigi, or another sidekick character to the point they're barely in it.
That's cool bro. :) to each their own.
Greatsaiyakirby Doug didn't forget, if you watch this video he verbally acknowledges that it had its goofy moments. He even admits that Avatar had its goofy moments. But SatAM want trying to be something it wasn't. It was actually closer to the video games stories and world than SatAM ever was.
I'd say he glosses them over for the most part, it just sounds like he gives SATAM more praise than it deserves.
My condolences to the friends , brothers and the Walker family for Sandy Walker ( if it is true ) passing , may she rest in peace and Heaven protected by Angels ... God bless ... Amen ... Amin ...
Kinda watching this after my mother’s passing six years later.
To be honest, the only Hanna-Barbara cartoon I really like is Tom and Jerry (the original run until the Gene Deitch era) though Scooby Doo is pretty entertaining too (before Scrappy was introduced anyway.) Although I admire Chuck Jones's work for Looney Tunes, I hate is run with Tom and Jerry.
As cool as Robotnik's voice was in SatAM, I can't get past the way he looks. It's just so silly and weird. His head looks like squash, his outfit looks like cheesy 80s sci-fi, and what's up with the gaping black holes with red dots for his eyes? It doesn't even look scary (to me, at least), just weird. The AoStH version of Robotnik isn't any better either.
I prefer the game designs for Eggman. Sure they're kinda silly too, but in a fun way, not an ugly or unpleasant way.
Yup, Jim Cummings is probably my all time favorite voice actor! He is the best and most threatening Robotnic!
What's even stranger is that they made the SatAM cartoon and the Adventures cartoon into on show here in germany, and every few episodes was a SatAm episode, the rest was Adventures. Back then it mast have been really confusing to watch as a kid...
I don't care what anyone says but I love AoStH's Robotnik! :D
PROMOTION!
ShyGuyXXL or PINGUS!
sat am Robotnik is the best
I would REALLY like you guys to do a review on the show Reboot. It was massively popular. One of THE most cleverly written shows for its time. It had great characters that were incredibly memorable, great voice acting, great story...setting. In my opinion..it had it all. It has one of the biggest fan bases, so much so, that it is now on its way to making a comeback by demand (it just took forever and a day for it to happen). A new Reboot show is currently in the making as we speak by Rainmaker Entertainment.
18:35 Metroid would make a really cool movie now that you've mentioned it.
maxtheaxeiswax Definitely the Prime Trilogy or Original/2/Super/Fusion. Or just go by their order in the timeline
Mio the Male
Samus's back story is pretty vague in the games, so there's tons of room for creative freedom.
It exists. It's called Alien.
The Alien movies are more down to Earth than Metroid ever was. Also the only Metroid games they could probably make a movie out of is Prime 3 or Other M, because every other game has a blatant lack of other characters.
In regards to the comic, I can tell you now NEITHER of you will like it. Sega kinda ignored the comics for a while, and the art as well as the quality of the story went real down hill when a dude named Ken Penders made the comics extremely fanfic tier. They recently did a soft-reboot of the comics, after Penders left the company because they demoted him for a bit cause they realized his work was shit, and claimed legal rights on some people. Though before the reboot the current writer did bring the quality up a ton, I honestly forget issue numbers though.
Mamaspeeder Well for the issue Ian Flynn first wrote, it's 160 but when it comes to after the Worlds Collide crossover, 252. As you can see I'm a pretty good fan of the comic but that's probably because of Ian.
Mamaspeeder Issue 252 is the best place to start because it's the start of Nu Archie Sonic.
Soni TH Yeah, I kinda hate we didn't get to see where Ian was going with the old universe but what can you do when a bad comic artist can't handle his publisher noticed how shit he was.
Soni TH To be fair, Ian Flynn was already alot better from the start but he had to clean up the mess Ken Penders made.
Good thing Ian is working on a book called Lost Hedgehog Tales about prior ideas on what he was going to do with the old universe before the Pendering.
Ian did do a lot better than Penders despite having to clean up all the mess Penders created. The new universe is something I do prefer since it wasn't as busy as the old one but not saying the old universe was bad, I would prefer the comic to atleast put a unique enough but still have a similarity to the games.
THANK YOU he praises Jim that man is a serious bad ass with his voice acting that man has it look at this and Mega Duck that man has such a bone chilling way of pulling off badass and dark dark dark
I want them to talk about Gargoyles sometime. That's was always my favorite show.
To me the SatAMshow still continues to be the best of all the Sonic the Hedgehog cartoons. I mean we had Sonic Underground, which the biggest mistakes were changing Robotnik's voice actor and making Sonic and his siblings sing terrible 80's styled songs.
then we got 4kids and their Horrendous dubbing of Sonic X, they just took out many of the jokes that would have been funny (if you've seen the Japanese dub the pain of seeing Chris Thorndyke into a whiny brat is real.)
Then we got the current Show on TV called Sonic Boom, which it does alright though we could use a bit more original of a plot point other than Eggman tricks Sonic and Co. Only to have his plot foiled as soon as he reveals it.
TurboThunderbolt I never quite got what was bad about the dubbing.
The voice work ranged from fine to amazing, so was it just the script? Because I can see that.
TurboThunderbolt I actually enjoyed the songs in Sonic Underground.
As for Sonic X, I've seen both the dub and the Japanese version, and... I prefer the dub.
This is mainly because the first episode of the dub was funnier, especially when Sonic was on top of the car.
I'll take "Don't use Formula One race cars to catch a hedgehog"
over "Don't stand on moving cars"
***** Why do you dislike the SaatAM version?
***** I see.
I actually feel that the humor meshed quite well with the action of the show. The way I see it, sometimes the humor was needed to add some levity to the darkness that was throughout the series.
But I do respect your opinion, and I see where you're coming from.
Out of curiosity, which of the sonic shows is your favorite?
***** I actually feel the same way about Sonic X that you do.
It's also the first of the Sonic shows that I watched, and I had seen that, and the other 3 shows that had come out prior to it, before I had played any of the actual games.
Even better: Before I saw Sonic X, I didn't even know that much about Sonic at all. I knew some of the names of the characters, but that's about it.
Now, I'm more of a Sonic fan than I am of a Mario fan, even though I still haven't played that many games in either franchise.
Am I the only one who wants to see Doug play Sonic 06? I know game reviews ain't his thing but you have to admit it'd be so funny to watch him get mad at every loading screen and glitch, he'd probably break a few remotes!
5:54 And that's why we have Shadow.
Does anyone remember the 4 part chaos emerald AoSTH special? That was pretty dark for that version of the show, Robotnik actually nearly won.
Also Tails In Charge where Scratch and Grounder turn sonic to stone and Tails has to save him was a great episode and really dark too
It'd be interesting to see what the Nostalgia Critic would think of the Sonic OVA.
I think the comparison between 60s Adam West Batman and AoStH is pretty spot on. I could never call it a cheap show, though. The only stuff that was phoned in was maybe Sonic and Tails' character, but all of the stuff between Robotnik, Scratch and Grounder... that's just pure, whole-hearted, wacky cartoon insanity that puts Looney Toons to shame.
Yeah, Long John Baldry's performance as Robotnik is unparalleled
Pretty sure my favorite shows getting canceled early or ended in a rushed/terrible way is why I'm such an innately bitter person today.
I've watched a bit of it on your guys' recommendation, it reminds me of all the old, non-Disney, cartoon movies that I used to watch on VHS as a kid, the ones like Land Before Time that told a dramatic story of an epic adventure and weren't afraid to go dark with their stories, and I really like that about it
Sonic did have chilli dogs in a few SatAM episodes.
OddBall64 in sonic warp
4:38 am I the only who noticed how often they do that? How often they say "UM" at the exact same time?
Besides that bit of weird trivia, yeah they pretty much covered both Sonic cartoons exactly.... WHY CLIFFHANGER, WHY!!!?
The best Sonic SatAM moment is Snively torturing Antoine by not making escargot properly.
Actually, he DOES eat chili dogs in SatAM.
he never in the video games.
I thought chili dogs was a fiction food
He even does in the games since a few years.
mr. Wldasoldmysoul4pussyasateen I’m from Australia. You can customise them here. Yellow mustard, chilli onions, whatever you like
Is it just me, or is Doug going for a "casual Luigi" look?
Scooby Doo cheats, tho'. They show you the culprit for like two seconds, or barely reference them, then spend the rest of the show finding motives for every other character, then finally bring back the culprit with some unexplored motive right at the very end. It's always a blindside. 'cept that one episode where it was Velma the whole time. Now *that* was a trip.
There was an episode where it was Velma the whole time?!?
Eddie Price I remember that movie
I grew up watching Sonic Underground in the late 90s and remember loving the show and especially the closing credit's theme song which was epic! Then years later Sonic X came along, I was no fan of anime and never will be, so I hated it right through. Tried to enjoy it but eh... just didn't work for me.
“You can’t goof up sonic, he’s gunna look like sonic the hedgehog no matter what”.
Sonic movie: hold my beer!
And then here I am, introduced to Sonic by Sonic X, LOVED the anime to death, was ok with Underground (I just loved Sleet and Dingo so much to hate it...but that singing, man), loving Sonic Boom to death...but never giving a darn over SatAM and Adventures. Adventures because, meh. I just didn't like it, while SatAM reminds me to much of the comics, which I really don't like...at all.
+12:50 actually, there WAS at least one SATAM episode where the chili dog thing came up... can't remember all the details, but sonic and sally go back in time somehow to before robotnik took over the kingdom, and meet their younger selves, and OF COURSE sonic gets into a pissing contest with himself that ends with them both scarfing a chili dog at the same time and then burping while both sally's just look on while saying something derogatory about boys....
*** *** they used the time stones
Hey, guys! You probably won't see this. Doesn't matter.
I watched Sonic SatAM recently because of your review and it was amazing. Thanks for recommending it!
I'm surprised Doug never understood the cartoon- it reminds me a lot of looney tunes- like a fusion of the bugs bunny and road runner/wily coyote cartoons.
Actually, chili dogs do play a role in the serious Sonic cartoon. He had an uncle whose chili dog restaurant was destroyed. The difference is that this show merely references that motive whereas the other one turned it into a recurring joke.
For some reason chili dogs have always been Sonics favourite food, don't ask me who came up with that idea in the first place.
Sandro Algra Barradas Well, the restaurant chain named SONIC - which was promoting using the hedgehog for a time - made chili dogs its STAPLE food. Plus, each character has their favorite food. Sonic has chili dogs, Mario has mushrooms and pasta, etc.
They even made it Canon as of black knight and on cause in said game he's eating two in the opening and if you get one in game the description sez it's his fav food
Hey guys I'm over there!
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You are a needy person
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Where? I cant see you.
Review Sonic Undeground, it's alot like SatAM but a different storyline.
"I don't wanna talk about Ewoks."
"Ohh..."
Rob is me, Doug is everyone who ever talks to me.
personally, I always saw the afternoon show as having more of a looney tunes vibe...the giveaway is the ending animation, which was basically a blatant ripoff of the wile e. coyote/road runner formula.
just my two bits, though.
Yeah, the mystery eyes in that final episode belonged to Ixis Naugus, who was in a previous episode the same season. In regards to the comics, I actually liked the comics. It carried on the same basic story, and the story that started in the SatAM series ultimately concluded with a four part story called End Game (Issues #47-50), where basically they tried to kill off Princess Sally, and Sonic was blamed for her murder. That's the darkest I've seen the Sonic stories get, and it was even darker than the series finale, but MUCH more satisfying, as we see a much more serious and mature Sonic that displayed emotions about Sally. If you could find End Game and read it, I think you'd be quite satisfied with it.
This whole review genuinely hurts me inside, because I LOVED the NC review of The Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog. It was hilarious, and I think his anger and hatred of the show, for the most part, is well justified. So them saying that there’s nothing to really get upset about and that it’s just a goofy show for five-year-olds really seems to spoil everything for me.
I personally cannot stand almost ANY show that’s supposed to just be mindless entertainment for kids and toddlers, and while I certainly don’t think this show is the worst of all, I think kids (and adults, for that matter) deserve MUCH better than campy cartoon nonsense.
I guess I just like the darker, grittier shows more, and if they’re able to balance out some goofy cartoon humor (and if the humor itself is good), that’s great. You get the best of both worlds that way.
Best of both worlds in what sense? Both AoStH and SatAM aimed for completely tones and styles, fusing them together would make a contradictory and confused mess that suffers an identity crises and makes no one happy. Not everything needs to be deep or sophisticated, junk food exists.
Rob: I guess you can make a Dark version of Sonic but that would unrealised
Me: there’s already a Dark version of Sonic and his name is Shadow (also if anyone watch Sonic X Cartoon Sonic technically got a second form that’s when Sonic get angry after see his friends getting hurt by a villain Sonic’s blue quills turn dark and his eyes just becomes white and he become Dark Sonic and he’s dangerous in that form because when he’s that form he won’t stop beating the snot out of you)
You should do a review of beast wars! IMO best transformers show ( haven't seen the new ones). But the way the writers took jabs at Hasbro for making them upgrade their characters to match the new toy lines was genius. Also cool how it tied into the franchise.
I would love to hear there thoughts on Sonic Boom.
The Real Ghostbusters, Darkwing Duck, and Bonkers are three shows that come to mine that had a weekday afternoon showing and a weekend network version. (Not counting repeats.)
In 1981 two animated Spider-Man shows ran at exactly the same time on the same day. They both had the same music, sound effects and animation style, however they had different voice actors
The comic based on the SATAM show is STILL the longest running franchise based comic book in history. Not bad for cartoon animals from a video game!
sonic133 I'd like to! Actually ideally it would be nice to come up with something for real if I can...
Totally unrelated, and don't know if Doug or Rob ever read these YT comments, but I gotta ask... Why has there never been a Nostalgia Critic done on Kevin Smith's Clerks? Or Mallrats? Or Chasing Amy? Or Dogma? I kinda want to see that. ((Also, this may or may not have been brought about from an all-night Movie Bob binge.))
What about Sonic Underground?
shows from games sonic-wise
AOSTH - sonic 1-2
SAT AM - kind of unleashed
underground - uhhhhhhh...
Sonic X - Sonic adventure and sonic adventure 2
OVA/movie - Sonic CD
sonic boom - sonic heroes
The Sonic SatAM show sealed me as a Sonic fan for life. Especially since the Archie comics took what that show was and expanded on it.
You mention The Super Mario Brothers Super Show, and that always seem to be the Mario-themed show people remember. But do you remember that there also was a "Super Mario Brothers 3"-cartoon (with the Koopa kids in it) and a "Super Mario World"-cartoon (with Yoshi in it)?
Maybe the Nostalgic Critic could look at them and reflect if they still hold up?
There's a japanese Mario show but dies that count?
***** Actually, it was a movie, and there was actually four of them.
Jonas Bjerregaard Doug said that he'll never review the other Mario shows because they're basically the same.
Jonas Bjerregaard Here in Finland one company started selling 'Super Mario Bros.' cartoon DVD box and I thought that it was really great that we finally had a DVD box of those cartoons from Super Mario Bros Super Show. I bought that box and was very disappointed because it was the 'Super Mario Bros. 3' cartoon. I only have one VHS tape of Super Mario Bros Super Show and the Mario cartoons in it were much better than 'Super Mario Bros. 3' cartoon. (And I really want the DVD box with the Finnish dub because it was legendary.)
Jonas Bjerregaard Personally, I think that a new Mario show in this day and age should go something like this: Start with a story that tells the "Bowser kidnaps Peach" story, (Probably along the lines of Super Mario Adventures), then base the following seasons on the first two Mario and Luigi games starting with Superstar Saga as season 2; it would be balls to the wall fantastic. Maybe work Sunshine in, or possibly the Galaxy 1/2 in a single season, then 3D world as the late ones. It would end or begin a new arc with Mario and Luigi Dream Team or Bowser's Inside Story. If not as a show, than maybe archie could pick that up seeing as how Smash exists.
Why 2 shows at the same time? Adventures was supposed to get the Saturday morning spot, but abc hated the show, rejected it outright, and commissioned a new show, which became SatAm. The Adventures show was then sold into syndication to recoup the cost of making the show.
There actually has been one other time when a dark, grim animated adaptation of something aired alongside a bright, cheerful, kid friendly one with little to no effort put in to it: Transformers Prime (dark, violent, incredibly awesome) and Transformers Rescue Bots (intended for toddlers).
I would interested in seeing your real thoughts on Water World. I remember during the NC review you said it was not a bad movie, just average. I would like to hear your expanded thoughts on the averageness of it.
What joke are they talking about in the laundromat?
Real thoughts on other sonic shows like sonic underground sonic x and sonic boom
Sonic Underground < Sonic the Hedgehog < Sonic SatAM
I think in terms of Jokes in the Sonic series Jonathan Gray's work on Archie Sonic is some of the best.
I love sonic the hedgehog in my fandom I say the adventures of sonic the hedgehog and sonic Satam go together and the games also I mean sonic was voiced by Jaleel white in both so I say they go together that he's just younger which is why is lighter I mean yes of course sonic satam is better but adventures of sonic the hedgehog is good also I mean if U like looney tunes u should like it I love the adventures of sonic the hedgehog and sonic satam it's my favorite series if u combined the two its 92 episodes I love sonic
you have to see sonic underground and sonic x (it is an anime).
1983 had two James Bond movies come out the same year with Roger Moore in the officially-in-canon Octopussy while Sean Connery played Bond in the not-in-canon Never Say Never Again. That's probably the closest thing to a franchise spawning two different movies and/or shows in the same year.
simpsonsfan89NSNA came about because long story short a the author "stole" some plot points from some guy for the book Thunderball and he sued when they made the movie so he got the write to remake a new one after 10 years, so they made NSNA. But he had the write to make it over and over again and in the late 1990s he going to reremake thunderball as Warhead2000. jamesbond.wikia.com/wiki/Warhead_2000
I'd love to go and read the Archie Sonic comics, but so much has happened that I can't fathom starting from the beginning.
RisenHellFire Not EVERYTHING, just everything that had to do with Ken Penders' characters and story arcs.
MattTheReaper Nope, everything. The entire continuity was rebooted, though they do have memories of the old reality for a while.
The news ones have been really good so far. C:
Yeah I agree
MattTheReaper I have every one up to when they crossover with Mega-Man. All I can tell you is that it's basically Sonic flipflopping between girls and then back. The latest one had him with Amy (from the ones I'm reading). What I hate is that they just dumped Mina and gave her a relationship with her manager Ash. The girl got shot for Sonic and they just pair her up with someone else. Oddly enough I was okay when she was paired with Tails in the Future arc (where he's married to Sally).
I'd actually like to know Doug and Rob's opinions of the first pokemon movie now. I mean they didn't watch the show and they never grew up with it or the games and more games and pokemon are out now. Did their opinions change at all? I don't think i't's likely but still, it could be interesting just hearing what went through their minds about it. I grew up with the Movie and I love the games, even the modern ones, but I know the movie and TV show isn't very good, or at least wasn't very good. They should sit down and talk about that one if they have anything they want to say. It doesn't even have to be long, I'd just like to see what they think.
I can personally testify that you're not the only one who combined two things when you were a kid. I used to combine terminator and DBZ for some reason, basically were xray drawings where one half was the dbz character and the other half was a mechanical exoskeleton.
When they brought up that there weren't any dark cartoons in the Disney afternoon with an ongoing villain and plot, am I the only one who wanted to say; "What about Gargoyles?"
10:39 Is this a generation thing? Cos I'm nearly the same age as Doug and I remember doing mashups of my favourite cartoon characters and superheroes all the time! Especially the Wombles - I had them as the X-Men, the Justice League, even the Power Rangers!
I wouldn't say it's generational per say, I'm 13 and I like to combine my favorite 80s and 90s shows in custom comics. I did a mini series about ninja turtles and mighty morphin power rangers with cameos by wolverine, Papa smurf, Scrooge McDuck, and others.
Is he really asking how you get a pumpkin from a hand in a Cartoon show???? Really??? Cartoon logic.... there is none. Since when do cartoon's have to make sense? Even the dumb ones.
What's weird is that I used to watch Sonic Sat AM, but I never heard it referred to as "Sat AM" until the NC review.
i would admit i would love a prequel series or even a mini series to Avatar, we got a little bit with Roku's back story but what if we got a show of a younger Roku, we get to watch the falling out Between Roku and the fire lord in more detail. start off with things looking good and end it on the rise of the Fire Nation. or a story of Iroh before he lost his son
Kids climbing into tumble dryers is really a thing.
Sonic Boom is lighthearted like Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog but a lot less silly. It's also very funny. The first 25 episodes are on Dailymotion. It's a decent show, better than a lot of people thought it would be. Just throwing that out there.
You should do a nostalgia critic on the Hanna Barbara cartoons, the same way you did the Disney Afternoon where you covered all of them. The only issue, would be that the cartoons are really old, though a lot of them were playing in our childhood.
“You can goof up Batman, you can’t goof up sonic, like he’s gonna look like sonic the hedgehog no matter what”
Movie sonic: hold my chili dog
I actually remember reading the Archie comics. There's tons of issues and tons of side-comics (about Knuckles and some of the others). I remember enjoying it quite a bit. The beginning (maybe first 10-20 issues) were a bit too light-hearted (like, somewhere between AotStH and SatAM), but then it picked up more and more seriousness, grittiness and drama. At the end though it became too convoluted, too reliant on side-stories and I dropped it.
I also found out a year ago that it got cancelled about a year after I stopped reading.
The comic started off too silly for it's own good, and lost it's mind later on.
I know it's in the past but I'll point out....chilli dogs get mentioned in Satam too ;)
Screwed by the Network: Despite pulling in solid ratings against Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers and being connected to a mega-popular video game series, the show got cancelled for two reasons: one, Disney had just bought ABC and decided to clean house concerning their Saturday lineup (which would lead to One Saturday Morning emerging a couple years later), and many of ABC's stations tended to delay the lineup or preempt it entirely to air local news. As a result, some people didn't see the show until USA Network put it on as part of their Action Extreme Team block.
I would totally watch "Chili-Dog Mysteries" written and directed by Rob Walker, if he were to do something like that. JESUS! XD
Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog (the daily syndicated show) ran from September 6, 1993 to December 3, 1993.
The formula of beginning a story where the antagonist has already won or is already in power is actually extremely common in sagas. Hell, almost every great RPG starts that way. Even the not great ones. The story of the good guy rebels taking on the evil establishment is classic.
frozenaorta it's the underdog story basically. Which was proven by the first rocky is pretty much a solid baseline to start from. everyone feels that way at some point (oppressed by parents, government, "the man", etc) and stories where a character rises up against those challenges makes the viewer feel good even if they can't relate to the exact situation.
The Sonic comic book is actually still going to this day. It's had its ups and downs like any long-running series, but on average it's quite good (especially since Ian Flynn started writing).
By the way, there was actually a third Sonic show in the 90s called Sonic Underground. I didn't see it, but from what I've heard it combined the darkness of the SatAM show with the stupidity of the afternoon show.
And now there's a new Sonic show running called Sonic Boom. It's similar in tone to the afternoon show.
TheomanZero Its on the verge of being cancelled(Sega of Japan is planning on pulling the plug on it by pulling its license before the end of the year). The Sonic fanbase is currently tainted and Sega wants to re-organize it.
Tornado1994 Source?
I hope you do a Real Thoughts on Sailor Moon and tell us what you think of the new dub, is it worst than the old dub, or the same?
They *DID* make Sonic "darker". And they called him "Shadow".
Oh and there's also Dark Super Sonic and the Fleetway Super Sonic, but those are probably best left forgotten.
Hey derps the rebel story appeals to kids especially teens because it reflects the rebellion we tend to feel at those ages. you come up in a world ruled by your oppressor while you fight for independence against your parents rules.How did all of you guys miss this.
12:10 JESUS