Your funny 😂...it's amazing how hard people try to mask the truth. So who paid you? Are you part of the alphabet groups? Or part of " the intellectual" that are hell bent on proving MAN is responsible for things they didn't even have to tools to do. Everyone should look at this video as comedy
What kills me about all these "ancient aliens"/"ancient civilization" people step over a hundred pieces of data to pick up five or six random bits, then weave a narrative whole cloth that ignores 99% of the actual evidence, but fits comfortably into whatever vague nonsense they're selling.
That’s basically how the mainstream opinions were also formed. That’s really how it goes when you’re trying to assemble a cohesive picture of the ancient past. It’s all more of an interpretation which is why archaeology isn’t really a science. It’s competing belief systems where very few people are ever truly objective. Most theories in both the mainstream and alternative sides get some things right but likely miss a large portion. In the future we may view our current understanding as ass backwards. Hard to tell since it potentially only takes one turn of the spade to make us question everything. I feel like they present pretty cohesive arguments. Both sides do. Doesn’t make them correct and neither has to be 100% right or wrong.
@@thatsmyassbrostop Your statement that science fact presented by qualified scientists is a "belief system" highlights why unqualified people think it's totally fine to believe in crazy conspiracies ! The Dunning Kruger effect in action.... SIGH
@@edwardfletcher7790 are you unaware of how often “qualified” scientists have been wrong about something, often for quite a long time, because they assumed or took things for granted? We forget about when they where wrong after the fact but the majority of scientific history is being wrong. Science shouldn’t be about belief in any theories but unfortunately science is done by humans, who have things such as ego, pride and greed. I’m also not so sure that you know what a conspiracy theory is. Lol. Having a different opinion about history is not a conspiracy theory. It’s a regular theory, just like the mainstream interpretation. They’re all just theories. You call it a “conspiracy theory” as an ad hom so that you can feel better about outright dismissing it. It’s an overcompensation. You mention the dunning-Kruger effect however you’re the one speaking from arrogance here. It’s ok to say that you don’t know, which is what most alternative history people suppose.
And that boob of a human, is on AA 1/3 of the time, as a respective authority. He only has a HS diploma, and I'm not joking. He writes books entitled, "How Bigfoot COULD have shot JFK, and got away with it, with the help of Aliens."
Forrester may not get everything right but he points out many things that contradict the official story of ancient history and the 25 books he has written sell well.
When they Romans needed to build a mountain (ramp) to siege Masada (1,500 feet), it only took them between 4-7 months. About half a year to make a small mountain and attack it with battering rams. So of course they could build Ba'albek.
Yes , of course as we are ignorants its pretty easy to say "yuo cant move this" cuase its very dificult to us , but in fact with simple techiques yuo can do it. Ther many know examples about that
@Joe -- Masada? Brian Foerster has single-handedly uncovered "proof" that an advanced Megalithic civilization travelled in time to Roman Judea, built the siege fortifications at Masada, then returned to their own time. Foerster will present this truth, but only to those who buy into his next trip to the "sacred sites".
Dr Miano once again provides a highly informative refutation of Foerster's wild assertions. "World of Antiquity" is very educative in that you learn a great deal sound history in the process of watching the refutation of these conjectures that are relentlessly presented by Brien Foerster as proper research. Thank you Dr Miano.
What is conjecture is exactly what the guides say if you visit such sites. They don't have aclue themselves. Although you probably need more imagination to think slaves / stone age workers built amazing structures
those who doubt human ability to move large objects with simple techniques should look up the well documented 'Thunder Stone" moved to St. Petersburg in the 1700's - or how the City of Chicago, including massive buildings, was raised several feet in the 1800's using little more than the simple ancient technology of screw jacks.
You better look deeper into the thunderstone story. There are a lot of weird things, many people mentioned the statue before it was supposedly erected and the stone was mentioned too. There are books, paintings and notes by a variety of people. The dates dont add up and if you look closely to the inscriptions they have also been changed. The statue might actually be of alexander the great. Dont take my word for it, look it up.
Also he wasn’t talking about all the granite pillars he was implying the few stones that are insanely huge , if you are from the Middle East you know a lot of the Roman and Greeks actually built over these places that already existed and claimed it as if they built it . Certain things they did build but others hey didn’t
The stones you mention weigh 200,000 tons each and the video guy thinks the obelisks were the hardest thing to carry. They were because they didn't lay the 200,000 ton stones, someone else did much earlier.
I personally have used stones larger than cars in constructing retaining walls. So, am I a megalithic craftsman or builder? (tbh, I guess I almost am... it is that pesky "happened a decade or so ago" part that prevents it from being actually true, given that the term is properly applied to things from the distant past, not-so-much stuff from just a few years ago.) Working with stone of that size really made me appreciate just how skilled people in the past were. It is almost trivial today (almost, because safety is a concern) with the power equipment like the excavators we had. I never really get how people go from "damn, I am impressed that they could do this all those thousands of years ago." to "no way in hell they did this." I mean, it is obvious that it was done, as you can see these all over, someone had to do it and adding in some "other" that did the work with no evidence of this "other" existing, or existing in that area, is one hell of a leap. addendum: We would joke about creating megaliths when we did work like that. And to be fair the word in itself only means giant motherf---er of a stone. And I guess that in the eyes of someone 3k years from now, maybe we did create some megaliths. edit: I don't have a problem with people who, due to lack of knowledge, say things like "I find it hard to believe that _____ built this." That is healthy skepticism. I draw a line when people outright refuse to believe that people could build these things when shown evidence that they did in fact build them. There is no "change my mind" philosophy behind such statements, while that is very much a part of a scientific mindset.
Brien watched the History channel late at night once and decided that's enough education to be an archaeologist. He asks questions that have been answered almost definitively, invents an uneducated answer and acts amazed because he's clueless.
I watched a video of him giving a tour through Egypt (back when I was into this stuff) and someone asks him what the historians say the “lightbulb” glyph really is. And he says “Now that, I don’t know…” and then he goes on to say that it’s very clear the image looks like a lightbulb. He literally didn’t even bother to google what the room was before he accepted people’s money and led a tour in there. One google search turns up: the room in the Hathor temple at Dendera “depicts the Egyptian creation myth.” There was another video where he’s touring people through South America and he didn’t know the name of the site. He just called it the megalithic site, but couldn’t remember what its actual name was. Just absolutely lazy. Even when I was a fan of lost ancient high tech, I couldn’t stand him.
Thank you for taking the time to make this detailed video. It's shocking how many people believe that Santa Claus built anything that they are too lazy to do the science on. Guess what? People can move mountains when they are motivated.
@@e7ebr0w from personal experience, after talking with plenty of "believers". They display the same tought patterns, cognitive dissonance and most important of all, a very arogant Dunning-Krueger effect. Also people who have no arguments, yet throw insults, like our friend above... I'm not denying that the status quo can get to rigid/cult like sometimes and I think we all agree that cultism is bad and should be avoided from all parts.
@@MrAchile13 obviously so. the funniest thing I've come across would have to be a channel called sgd sacred geometry decided... or something similar. it's the craziest thing watching someone argue with narratives such as uncharted x and Brien by using even crazier arguments sometimes. I just wonder why people are worried about disrupting that "side of the fence" anyway. we all get taught the history in school, those people afterward just chose to wonder.... don't understand the strongly felt need to bring them back so to speak
@@MrAchile13 but as a point, in today's world, even ideas that aren't completely fringe, yet border on opposition to the current "narrative" are ridiculed so fervently, most people choose not to think out of the box. To me, it's always been insane to me that people today are so high and proud of themselves that they truly believe they understand how ancient man did anything.... so many years separate our times, and every day we discover new clues that argue with the current history. to think anything is impossible in the 100000 years humans have existed is crazy to me. the inhabitants of north sentinel island have been secluded there for 60000 years, and I get that it's an island, but they've done not much as far as monuments. Easter island for what I understand is pretty small, yet the Rapanui constructed the Moi (don't know how to spell it). One one hand it's absurd to think we know everything, but on the other, it's absurd that archaeology is the only science that makes conclusions from absence of evidence
@@e7ebr0w The problem is that people like uncharted x and forester are frauds. They literally lie on camera, cherry pick data and use logical fallacies, in order to make money form the gullible. And I'm not talking only about you tube and patreon, but about their insanely over priced tours. If you point out their lies, they will ban you from their channels. All the talk about machine precision/high tech tool and lost global highly advanced civilizations is nonsense and I can explain in detail why, if you're interested. Archaeology is backed up by evidence, for the most part, the ones making conclusion from nothing are the the ones like uncharted and forester. Forester is such a fraud that he literally called pick axe marks "mysterious claw marks". The Moai are simple statues, all you need is skill, people, wood, rope and stone hammers.
I love how you're debunking these claims - in a calm and polite way (unlike some other channels out there) Out of interest, would you have any vids on the marks and holes in Egyptian granite, some are claiming were created using circular saws and tube drills?
roman origin,,i laugh.. we can not today, hewn out granite, 600t blocks, transport over mountains.500 miles... you are a joke.. you are mainstream bs.. i hope your paid well to lie, for a living..@@WorldofAntiquity
Imagine thinking that one of the MOST capable ancient peoples, the roman empire, was not able to move these stones. I can understand someone thinking that it is hard for hunter gathers to get together and erect monuments but...the roman empire? Ever been to rome?
"Ahhh, another giant rock, ancient high technology spotted!" These guys are crazy. Generalizing everything, undermining the intelligence and ingenuity of these ancient civilizations.
When me and my two brothers were children we went to a living history stone age theme park, there was a boulder about the size of a small car on logs with ropes attached on it to try it out we got it to move it without effort, these people are either idiots, liars or extremely weak themselves.
@@tilleryinnovations592 That big blocks of rock can be moved with enough manpower with ease. Proving the floaty pseudohistorians who think it could not be done back then wrong.
Ummm.. that more people could move larger stones further? It's not difficult to surmise. "Think for yourself". If you make a recipe by grams instead of volume, you can multiply or divide up to a very large point. As Recipe, so Stone moving.
engineers have looked at hypothetically moving the trilithon stones, most say it cant be done as the rock would crumble under its own weight once lifted. Some say it could be lifted and maybe moved a short distance but it would take the largest most capable machines we have to do it and even then, theyd barely make it.
27:30 He IS just eyeballing it. Notice how the pictures are always at an angle. They never show the straight edge actually close up touching the stone. Also, any tradesman worth a damn would use a longer straight edge on such a large surface.
I have seen Lyin' Brien Fraudster and David Hatcehtjob-Childish make these claims when you could see light shining through the huge gap between their set square and the stone. {:-:-:}
It's lovely to read comments like yours. I think yours shows a humility we can all aspire to. Isn't it fascinating learning how this stuff was really achieved in antiquity, though?! :)
Hobby researchers are good with asking clever questions. The problem is their attempt to give answers. They ignore the huge amount of knowledge that exist within ”mainstream academics”, while they base their own (exotic) theories on empty words like ”obviously” or ”unquestionably”. Mainstream academia may not be perfect, but we do have the ability to persevere with a problem until it is solved and then carefully document it.
@@dougcard5241 Research within history, linguistics, religion, archeology and other fields add up to quite a comprehensive knowledge about what life was like. Surely there are still many gaps to be filled but anyone who presents highly controversial theories needs to present extraordinary proofs, if they want to be taken seriously.
@@holmavik6756 Tell us a story based on any facts about what Sumerians were doing and when they learned to make marks on stone prior to 5000 years ago. Extra credit for anything you can tell me about the 'creatures' who built Gobekli Tepe. When did humans start worshiping gods? When they met any advanced including aliens. Prove that wrong or get lost. And stop thinking someone is an expert on what was up with Homo Sapiens since over 500kya. Why would I need to know whether the split from Neanderthals was 800 or 400kya? Feel free to explain why it took over 200k years to figure out how to quarry stones? Why were GIZA pyramids all built in 150 years out of 150k years?
Great video! Why are we taught that ancient people were ignorant brutes? Their lives were very simple compared to ours. They had a lot of time to master stone working!
WHO ever taught you the ancients were ignorant brutes??? I'm a geezer, and a well-educated one at that, INCLUDING a History degree, among others. In NONE of my history courses was that claim ever made. Instead, my professors always maraveled at what the ancients did, with the tools and concepts they had at hand.
@@jelink22 Its relatively common in, well lets call it standard education, like in most middle and high schools where all of pre industrial history is done in 2 years
@@spokenclawm.4121 They like to never speak about using softer compounds against much harder surfaces, to precision. No duplications have been done either.
I would like to ask the builders did you save time cutting & moving huge stones vs: cutting up smaller stones making the moving less difficult? Or did you incorporate huge stones for earthquakes?
*_"did you save time cutting & moving huge stones vs: cutting up smaller stones making the moving less difficult?"_* That would make it _more_ difficult. It was easier for them to cut one 100 ton block than 100 one tonne blocks, and easier and quicker to move it, too. Think of the extra time cutting and the extra surface area that needed to be shaped. {:-:-:}
I think what the alternate history fans have to answer is why is it that Rome happened to be founded in a field of random Egyptian obelisks, that didn't influence Roman culture, and weren't even mentioned until they had to make up stories on how they were moved there. Really the late antiquity emperors were quite lucky no one had mentioned some of the largest obelisks until they came to power. And if these alternate history fans can admit that these giant objects were moved by the Romans, why is it that other objects couldn't have been moved by the Romans?
I built a limestone shed I used really big blocks on the bottom and smaller blocks as I went up the wall ...it was easier than lifting the big blocks Groundbreaking facts Also you can't achieve curves and arches with massive blocks up top
Wait. If you have large blocks on the bottom and smaller blocks on top, then it is evidence that a lost civilization built the bottom and you just came later and built on top and now take all the credit.
@norbertdjihnson if there was a civilization more advanced than ours, please, do tell, where is the material evidence? Yall love to talk about high technology... but where is it? Let's see one shred... thats all it would take... one single USB port, 1 miniscule insulated copper wire, 1 single fiber of synthetic fabric or materials... but alas.. there is none. If the ancients were so technologically advanced, why did they only build in stone? Why no glass and steel sky scrapers? Where's all the old broken computers and evidence of manufacturing plants, power plants (no the pyramids were not power plants... good lord) .... anything? Where is it? Ohhhh.... right... it doesn't exist. Because it never did.
Funny thing about Brien is that his books and lectures are pretty much the same things, almost word for word. If you heard a lecture, you might as well have read his book. Apparently he’s teaming up with Jimmy Atlantis, which is a huge step backwards if you ask me.
That is funny and clever of you, and while I agree with your sentiment, a guy who regularly gets over 300,000 views on his videos would not struggle to fill a 30 person room.
@@eky I agree that it’s entirely possible, but he has drawn a lot of crowds at a lot of events for a lot of years. There’s no actual reason to assume that’s the case in any given video with him appearing to be on stage.
@@Yeoldelole yea i guess you convinced me, i can see it might be simply badly produced (acam's razor applies not just to lost high tech lol). You convinced me, in that case i imagine the point of the original commenter was that the guy was cooky enough do such a thing. Or maybe to bring to mind tiktokers that film fake podcast clips
An interesting point about the columns on the Pantheon: these columns (their origins are correctly stated) were not made for the Pantheon; archaeological work unearthed the original plan of that building on the ground right before it (probably as a builder's aid). The original plan was for taller columns, but the columns made for it sank in a storm during transport in the Mediterranean. The Pantheon was to be completed by a very important religious/political festival, so the existing columns were "robbed" off of another, smaller temple. The Pantheon, essentially a large sphere with a rectangular box attached, had to have an extra raised box added to it, which can be seen when looking at the front elevation. The extra box had to be added to balance the proportions, because the columns used were too short. Interestingly, an analogous example exists in Colonial Williamsburg, (Williamsburg, Virginia) which was the British capital of the American colonies before the Revolution. The pediment extending over the porch of the Court House simply hangs in the air with no columns beneath it (that wooden pediment is actually cantilevered from the main structure and columns are not structural requirements). The Brits had made and shipped stone columns for the Court House, but they sank into the Atlantic during a storm while on their way. So the pediment simply hovers over the porch to this day.
I really enjoyed this commentary on Brian foresters work. I've been watching his videos (and others like him) for a couple of years now. And haven't been able to find anyone to refute what they are saying. Until now. Instead of just calling him a nut job. You used a lot of facts to back up your position and refute his. You channel is exactly what I've been looking for, thank you very much for this informative presentation. I look forward to hearing the response that he (Brian forester) might have for you. If he responds.
@@polycarp1334 You shouldn’t need others to debunk this. These claims are obviously false on their face. If you are vulnerable to these claims, you are no doubt susceptible to others. I recommend studying epistemology. It’s the basis of all knowledge and the most important skill to have in life.
What about the perfectly shaped caves in granite in India? There are quite a few artifacts and examples which cannot be explained with "many people simple tools" theories. Look at the granite boxes in serpeum for instance. No way they are made with simple chisels. I support critical debate and this is a good contribution, but it definitely do not debunk "extinct high civilisation" theories.
Yes you are looking at an extinct high civilisation, but you seem unsatisfied with that explanation. I don't understand you guys - ancient peoples made all this shit to tell us who they were and people like you piss all over it with this "aliens" or "ancient Apple Corporation" shit. Here's the secret - they fucking used their brains and backs to make these things. You know how we find out about ancient advanced machinery (aka simple cranes)? By fucking actually looking for tools and not spacecraft debris.
“No way they were made with simple tools”? How do you know? Seriously… Are you an expert? If somebody spends their entire life working at a certain job they’re going to be expert at it, there’s no TV… There’s barely any other distractions people are working 10 hours a day… And that’s all they’ve got to focus on, and you don’t think they can make something that looks perfect?
@@aronato9524 We can’t recreate some of the old megalith stone work and structures today with our modern tools. Still you think that ancient man did all this with simple copper chisels ? Open your mind and eyes !
@@archie6962 That’s not an argument. We don’t have a civilization devoted to making such megalithic (to use this term correctly) structures. Ancient civilizations made all kinds of structures with stone and were far more acquainted with the techniques for working it than we are. Our advanced technologies are devoted towards other purposes since it’s just not as necessary to make such structures. It’s just not cost effective for us and isn’t worth putting the resources into compared to building a space telescope. The “we can’t do it now” argument is no argument. These ancient civilizations were masters at working with stone and obviously developed techniques that we haven’t thought of. If we started devoting our time and energy to building such structures, we would no doubt quickly rediscover such techniques. You’re essentially engaging in a form of chauvinism regarding modern civilization and how it views past peoples.
Excellent work again. The way he definitively makes statements about what Romans could and could not do shows he has zero interest in truth. It is about preserving the business model. For all the things that might be argued that he doesn't know basic facts on stone work, and makes a business of talking about stone, shows either total laziness in the issues he pretends to be passionate about, or shows he does know the basics but peddles falsehoods to preserve his profit margin.
Thank you Dr. Miano for another enlightening video...The part about turning stone at 12:00 is very interesting since even a basic search, Mr. Forster even at a "high school" level research effort would inform him of granite lathes that handled columns 1.8 m in diameter by 20 m long designed and used at the end of the 19century…
You should visit the temples in south India. It will blow your mind when you see chains made out of granite and a whole temple carved out of a a hill & also the pillars at the Warangal Temple and the extremely precise ceiling carvings. I would really love your explanation on that. Also explain how Angkor wat temple was made.
That will kicked him in the head. Or maybe he will have an explanation of how those granite chains hanging from the ends of those Temples were made and also hung up.
An obelisk taken to Constantinople was set upon a base that is carved with a scene of it being raised with ropes and pullies. Also, it's set on lead blocks, which apparently act as shock absorbers during earthquakes.
How is this guy not laughed out of giving lectures talking about his crazy ideas and theories for history? He really does have a low opinion of ancient human builders. The ancients are way more capable and intelligent than we give them credit for.
Ancient builders yes but most certainly not done by old Kingdom Egyptians. They simply inherited these objects. The super high grade precision could never been achieved with copper tools and sticks. There was an older civilisation with superior technology who did this. So yes you are fooling yourselves here on this channel, but be aware that history books will be rewritten cause new evidence is found every day in every corner of the world.
Foerster in the future seeing ruins of Burj Khalifa: "Ancient high technology culture from 30,000 years ago!! Can't be the people from that time 2000 years ago, 'cause they are dumb, stupid and primitive!"
Brian forester is actually highly accurate most the time, I don't think I heard him say he was an expert just that he has a theory that makes more sense the mess that is antiquity theory. I'd say you both have good points. Why don't you all actually collaborate so the Aliens can finally land.
All based on racist ideas from the 1800's. "Only white Europeans could have built the pyramids. The Egyptians are to stupid for it". The stupid racist conspiracy is already 200 years old!
I used to lay tile, usually it was natural stone. Cutting stone is all about abrasion not any unbelievable technology. Straight lines are easily created by a taught string (laser straight). The massive workforce available to the Romans have the potential for massive amounts of work/time reduction. It is not so mysterious. These guys are selling mystery. It sparks the imagination and their claims are exciting but simply absurd.
Your cutting 3/8-1/4”!thick stone and even then if your using a tile cutter ( no large circular at saw and hose available) you can have something break wrong. Imagine these barbaric size stones and no tech. The number of people makes no difference in the cutting technique only in the transportation etc
@@TherealVinnie the number of people doing anything increases productivity You can have multiple teams cutting stone at different locations to increase productivity ... 2 people work three times faster than 1
@@oftin_wong Or you can have multiple teams working on one massive stone, with one team cutting while the other teams rest, repair broken equipment, fetch supplies, etc. We’re so used to super-efficient modern means of production that we forget how many problems used to be solved by throwing more time and people at it. Copper saws would dull too rapidly? Assign guys to swap out and sharpen saws. Cutting through a massive stone would take “too long”? Lengthen the project timeline. These buildings weren’t ordinary shops and houses put up by people who had to finish quickly so they could get back to their regular work. These were palatial buildings funded by fabulously rich people who could afford to pay a full-time workforce. (And grunt labor was cheap.) Overcoming obstacles by adding workers wasn’t a hardship, it was how things were done.
Foerster was one of the first getting me curious and asking questions, but I agree that some of his theories can be a bit tedious. Especially when he walks around Egypt and talks about everything having heat damage from some cataclysmic event.
Forester tells the truth, the real story, but the stupid man in this video deceives us, ask him who built alora caves or anghor wat or serapuem tombs, of course it was built by lost technology that completely disappeared
@@remember_Pat_Tillman Depends on the lens you look through. There is a preponderance amount of evidence that points to ionic winds and plasma discharges creating many of the "geological" features we observe. "Shock quartz', spheracles, scalloped ridges, triangle buttresses, crater chains, and terraced blisters are all common, and predicted by plasma discharge. Technically, its probable our geography was sculpted by plasma discharge in preexisting epochs.
Isn't it funny, that Brien reads his entire presentation, and can never once bring his eyes to the audience while he is speaking? This is very clear body language which says "I'm lying to you all but can't look you in the eye while I'm doing it." Either that or, "Despite saying the exact same stuff for many years, I still can't remember a single sentence of my presentation."
I look at it like this, the ancent people could do the same stonework as us, it just took longer, required more people, and was harder work, but they still got it done cause they really, really wanted too.
I'm no archaeologist but i like history you make a great point about the smaller work beneath the monoliths and when I seen one of their other videos before yours I saw in south America smaller work like the top of monoliths underneath and always wondered how they came to these conclusions but anyway thanks professor!!!
Him claiming that the surface of the bottom of one(?) of the column(s) is 'almost laser-flat' - when seeing him 'measuring' and concluding that statement with nothing more than a standard 25cm (or 10 inches) long 90-degrees tool (sorry-don't know the name of the tool in English, but I'm sure you know what I mean) is just ludicrous....that he didn't at least use a 'ruler' (again-don't know what the name of that tool is: the one with water and an airbubble in it?) as long as the column's diameter, at the very least. Well, as someone who's used to work with wood - it really does surprise me, to say the least. How on earth are you supposed to judge, even with your eyes, how 'flat' something is without having at least some kind of tool that's as long as the diameter (and of course-accurately 'flat')? We have, historically at least, for a long time kept underestimating the capabilities of our forefathers.....but - after a couple of centuries of countless finds such as these ones (even totally buried ones), and also written records as well as other strong indicators that strongly suggest that this or that empire or people did in fact erect these impressive monuments themselves (be it preserved on paper, papyrus or clay, etc.) - you'ld think that era would be over by now...? BUT - apparently not, I guess. Sure - these monuments, all over the world are immensely impressive. Without a doubt. Especially when considering that they had to do everything, at every step purely by hand. BUT, again - we mustn't forget that practically EVERYTHING had to be done by hand in those days, which of course means that ALL artifacts, as well as all kinds of artisans in those days were well versed in making everything by hand. Every single 'step' of it...And since there wasn't even a though given to any alternative, since there were none: people probably started to 'work on their skills' from early childhood - not like today, where we have the choice of using modern machinery. Which of course ultimately means that ALL and every artisan, regardless which material used were very well-versed in making all things - from start to finish - entirely by hand! AND - that there must have been a lot more of these artisans. That's at least what my reasoning and logic is telling me. Also - isn't the fact that these guys not only are selling books and making a living out of their 'special theories' a bit suspicious? Especially while they also 'offer' tours where they will "reveal the real truth" about these 'megalithic structures' - for a handsome fee...to me at least it sounds almost a bit 'cultish'!!! *ALARMBELLS!* Sorry, got a little 'worked up' I guess. Great video, as always Mr. Miano. Subscribed as soon as I saw your channel, since I'm a bit of a 'history-nerd' - and you and your content are so great! (If it wasn't for the fact that I'm simply not in a position where I'm financially able to - I'ld support your channel in a heartbeat!). Cheers from Sweden!
Stones were recycled from an earlier time. Does he mention the megaliths that were unfinished? They had "scoop marks" at the bedrock that look like ice-cream scoop marks, but they were made in granite. How was that done?
They aren’t scoops. They are not uniform. It’s the pattern you get when using stone on stone with the quarrying method of leaving a middle section to break and it’s found in many Stone Age quarries around the world. We still quarry in some instances in the same way and they did it this way all through the Stone Age, Iron Age, and now.
@@Eye_of_Horus How do you explain the polygonal stone walls in Cusco, Peru where you cannot fit a business card between the cracks? Yet, you cannot find any examples of "scoop marks" in quarries in Peru. There were advanced civilizations long before the "Stone Age" restart.
@@beameup64 I used to be very into the alternative like you seem to be. The cuzco walls are impressive. But let’s assume they were hard to explain. Is there anything else, anything else at all that points to a Stone Age civilization with high tech? Keep in mind we have countless archaeological data from all over the globe during the entire Stone Age. And not just stone. There are also some finds of organic material such as baskets, clay pottery, etc. why don’t we find anything in these eras that lends to the idea of an ancient high tech society Anywhere on the earth? With that out of the way, this channel has a video dedicated especially to the polygonal works of Peru. Why we know when and how they were built. It isn’t as much of a mystery as people like foerster try to make it. They are firmly dated to the Inca, and the Spanish even chronicle that they had the Inca build some of these polygonal works FOR them in cuzco for their own buildings.
@@jamisojo Unless you have poor eyesight, you can look the world over for the obvious remains of very ancient advanced civilizations literally "etched in (very large) stones". These "monuments" cannot be replicated by today's civilization.
@@WorldofAntiquity No. Brien has made elongated skull videos as recently as 1/27/21 (Paracas Wildlife Refuge And Ancient Child Mummy In Peru) and 1/13/21 (Intriguing Ancient Artifacts AT The Penn Museum In Philadelphia). Brien has always maintained that elongated skulls are a separate species and not the result of head-binding techniques.
Foester is a great man! You do not understand Ancient High tech because you have not read the texts, have not appreciated the engineering techniques required. And yet you comment about your betters? SAD!
@@WorldofAntiquity Thats right, He openly admits the Hieroglyphics don't interest him that much because they are NOT Predynastic like the Megaliths are. He *is* an Engineer, Brien is interested in why and how this was done, What makes him great? DNA Testing the Starchild skull to the Black Sea was pretty staggeringly great! Even before THAT Realisation, He was one of those 'Lone Figures' showing us ALL The anomalies, You should show more respect 👍Making a video headlined like that? And he doesn't say its Impossible for Humans to have done certain things like shift the stone of the south, he says that based on what we are led to believe, our education tells us it was impossible when it clearly was not! But again, How and why? Check out the squatter-man project for some of the answers. 👍
They were not only smart but also far better experts at working stone than what we are today (with manual tools) and Foerster is an arrogant fool who thinks back then they were kind of retarded. So far from the truth.
The 330ton Vatican obelisk was moved from Egypt to Rome, it stood for 1500 years until it was relocated in 1585 to it's current position. It took 900men and 140 horses to erect the 330ton obelisk. Sketches can be seen of that moving event. If they could ship and erect a 330ton stone from Egypt, couldn't they also move ('only' side) a 1000ton stone over 900 meters in Baalbek? Likely so. The 1900 year old Trajan's Column has a 53.3 ton capital block that was lifted and placed on 34meter height. Don't underestimate what the Romans were capable of.
no one has even attempted this still if it's a snap surely somebody would do it .a group of Archaeologists accompanied by engineers tried to build a pyramid a sixth the size of one at giza for many a summer and eventually had to abandon their attempts after failing comically.
@@bernardsimsic9334 Did you look up the sketches? Search for "moving the obelisk 1585" on Google images. You said: "if it's a snap surely somebody would do it" Who would have the budget to do something like that? It's far from being 'just a snap', we are talking about cutting down hundreds of big old trees just to replicate the moving of a giant 800-1000 ton stone. That's not justifiable in the current age. Actually the Romans caused a lot of deforestation in the Mediterranean, for construction, heating blacksmiths ovens as wel as cooking and heating homes.
@@bernardsimsic9334 Amazing that someone can read 900 men and 140 horses and interpret that as it "being done in a snap" Maybe this VIDEO of a walking Moa statue will open your eyes a bit to how human could move large things with only ropes in this case. ruclips.net/video/7j08gxUcBgc/видео.html
@@bernardsimsic9334 Their first mistake was using engineers and archaeologists. Lol. Some decent stone masons would have done it quite quickly I'd bet.
There's something about having grown up so close to a Deep Hole Granite Quarry semi-famous for a multitude of reasons (including the quality of the stone etc) that makes people's inability to believe that you don't need diamond tools to mine or work stone completely insane to me. the Quarry I grew up near does tours of some of their Quarry holes and shows the old equipment used to mine stones, so I've been aware for ages that iron and steel was good enough for facing, and polish has always been a matter of grit and rubbing. Hell, I've taken stone carving classes, and Granite is one of those stones that is very amenable to carving and finishing (though is also a major risk for silicosis) we didn't use any diamond tools in that carving class either!
That's the fun of it, since there's no positive evidence you can shove just about anything in the gaps. This guy keeps things vague, but the history channel dudes say Baalbek was a landing pad for spaceships. Built out of cut rock, no advanced materials.
Well,.. the Romans used to refer to chickens to tell the future The Egyptians thought the sun died every night to be born again in the morning ...highly advanced
@@theradgegadgie6352 exactly ...some pinnacle, best not to imagine that they were highly advanced ... Where do you think the term .." you can't take it with you".. Came from? .... Just ask a pharaoh
@@oftin_wong Well, he'd probably disagree with it. Odd thing about these civilisations: they reached the pinnacle of their development after a century or two, and then did bugger-all innovative for two thousand years. No more inventions, nothing. That's the big different between them and us. Even fifty years produces radical differences in our world.
I can barely express how delighted I am that this video has nearly 2,000 views rn, but I'm still bummed that his video has over 300,000. So many people would rather believe fairy tales and nonsense rather than be fascinated by the REAL scholarly, informed research done on these sites. We need to make debunking nonsense as popular as the nonsense. SUPPORT THIS CHANNEL ON PATREON!!
Its more fun to believe in advanced civilization that are lost. I think deep down inside many people believe the truth, but choose to follow pseudoscience for the serotonin boost lol
@@mariolongtin8271 but the realities, the things we can verify and comprehend, are SO much cooler than the nonsense! And all the MORE fascinating because they're true! 🤷♂️
Whats more impressive than the monuments themselves is people two thousand years later refuse to believe people made them. That's how you know you where working with artisans not just simple masons.
Your videos are exactly what I wanted to see in history documentaries. It never ceases to amaze me how many incorrect or outright useless videos are out there, all at the top of the search page, luring in all the itchy ears. They sure go out of their way to create a mystic where science and information have already tread and retread. Thanks for giving us the facts.
This is an excellent and interesting video, but it is rather tragic that people like Foerster make this debunking necessary. I wish people would attain some minimal level of competence before spreading their "wisdom" to the world.
Brien Foerster, Hancock and Randall Carlson in Archeology and HIstory are basically the same type of guy like Frank Dux or George Dillman in Martial Art.
Holy Shit! The comments on this video?! I’m so sorry so many people cannot appreciate your scientific spirit. I loved your video and am really thankful for the work that went into it!
I would love to know how the Egyptians cut those boxes out of the one piece of stone and cut angles to within a thousandth of an inch. Today's technology can't do this. There has been plenty of attempts at recreating thongs like those boxes or even pyramids on a smaller scale and they always fail. Let's face it, a lot of these historians were pist off at gobeklitepi lol, they didn't know what to say..lol.....What was it they ended up saying? Yeah, hunter gatherers did it lol one day...lol
Scientific spirit requires some demonstration of capability. Saying, "It was done with primitive tools and methods" means nothing without at least some demonstration of those methods. "It's silly to think that any advanced civilization existed before ours" is not a scientific approach. Look at Sacsayhuaman and demonstrate a method of making and fitting even the smaller wall stones with that precision with pounding stones and rope.
@@leonardmead1425 omg. Can you even hear yourself? Angles are measured in degrees, not thousands of inches. And they didn't hold tolerances to 1000ths of inches. Just because some doofus on a video told you everything is "precise" doesn't mean that it actually is. None of that is true. Furthermore, we most certainly can hold those tolerances today. And not to the thousandth of an inch... But to the 10th of a thousandths of an inch. You are repeating what some fool said. Try not to be so gullible in the future.
One of the things that really get me. When someone is looking at something made in past. One of the first thing to come out of their mouth, is they did not have the tools or technology to make some thing like this back then. If they did not have the tools and technology to make it, it then it would be around for them to find it. Then there is the Giza Pyramids. They clam we could build them to day. We could could build them, we have the technology. What we don't have is those that would want to build them. The time and cost to do it, is not worth it to them is the truth of it. This is why we do not have people living on the Moon or Mars right now. It's about coast to do it. and no profit to do it. If there was profit to do it. We would have found a way to do it by now.
Exactly. And I think that the way we look at their stone creations is how they would look at microchips and stuff we make. We have no idea how and why they made these things because each society has their priorities. Sorry if that didn’t make any sense lol.
I love these theories. It’s the tv show timeline on Netflix. You know it’s crap, but it’s somewhat entertaining. You have no ideas how many hours I’ve wasted with friends and colleagues watching documentaries like that. In the end, we would try to proof it, but always failed. LOL
I work at a lab where we research sonar and lidar. One day I talked to my engineers about the megalithic period. They laughed at the word. But when I told them the theory, they said, if you think the ancient world is fun, you should see the stuff we've found underwater. They send submersibles to look for planes, ships, and other lost military what not. Occasionally they find ruins and check to see if its on their map. Not sure who they use, but they've been to Alexandria and had pictures of the underwater stuff that their lidar revealed. Sad that so much got lost to an earthquake. Anyhow, my point was that their team and the other 5 in our lab have discovered so many ancient shipwrecks, ruins, and weird stuff that they had to stop mapping it. Some areas were full of red pins. They both believe that humanity was building things way earlier than academia would believe just from all the old stuff that's sitting around where it shouldn't be.
@@WorldofAntiquity well if they’re underwater you can measure the last time that area was exposed and start from there, but it’s already been done. Mainstream even states that sea levels all over the world rose on average 400 ft 10,000 years ago. That’s enough proof right there🤦🏻🤦🏻 just do more research kid
Hmmm, a guy who reads from google, or a man who goes directly to the site and shows us exactly what he’s talking about? Yeah, I’ll listen to him, not you.
@@WorldofAntiquity really? Again, you are a random, whose probably never been to any of these sites, and you’re trying to make a video to discredit a man who not only films on location because he goes there himself, but he also slides money to guides to be taken places people normally aren’t allowed, AND has an entire tour where he takes you right to these places so you can see for yourself. You claim there’s no evidence for a lost civilization? Why would there be, other than stone? You realize a comet guy and incinerated everything, don’t you and then about 12,000 years passed. The evidence is actually pretty strong. According to you and your ilk, they didn’t even have the wheel, yet there’s circular saw marks and tube drill holes. A clear contradiction. We do however have Plato telling us of such a civilization. The Bible blames the flood on said civilization. No wheel, but they moved 1,000 ton blocks and put them together better than we can? I mean, these people weren’t far removed from having animal skin genital flaps for an outfit. Yet, without the wheel, built Baalbek/the great pyramid etc.... nope. Your about as qualified to slander this man’s research and character as I am to tell Tom Brady how to be a quarterback.
@@brandonox6927 All of the information I share is straight from the archaeologists who have worked for years on the site, and on all the other sites I mention. They have done far more work than just going and looking around, taking photos, and holding a ruler up to a stone. When did I say the Romans never had the wheel???
Would there not be evidence on the end of the column if they were shaped on giant lathes? Secondly, columns are used to withstand compression. I'm wondering what sort of forces would be affecting a long block of stone suspended by its ends on a lathe. I'm not good with physics and would love to know if such a machine even existed, would it be possible to turn a huge column on a lathe. Thanks for the video. ps How much do the Illumunati pay for masking the truth. I feel like it's time for a change in my career. Since THEY control the world, the money must be really good. (Sorry, after seeing the pinned comment, it had to be asked! lol)
I actually laughed out loud when Brian said those columns were turned on a lathe. People have used lathes for stone work (mostly for art projects and the like). But you'd need such a massive lathe to turn those columns it no sane person would try it.
@@johnsturm9344 I've had time to re think my position on this question, John. You see the aliens used anti gravity to lift the huge pillars of stone, and place it in a magnetic field to hold steady. It's basically a tractor beam on the space craft, which is why we've never found a lathe. The magnetics are arranged such that when poles change rapidly, the stone starts to spin and the aliens laser blaster are set to "masonry". It all makes so much sense now. Whatever happened to Occam's Razor? lol
@@pencilpauli9442 Lol! Don't give them new ideas! I don't think most of these guy's understand what Occam's Razor is.... or basic common sense for that matter.
If it was necessary, and I don't believe that they needed lathes, but there is such a thing as a vertical lathe and that would work at slow spinning speed if there was a live cutter like a modern machine. It's highly unlikely and unnecessary to use a conventional horizontal lathe. They could carve in place and grinding with precision curved laps.
@@richtomlinson7090 Right, and I guess the bit was raised and lowered by floating drones? Maybe a crane? Maybe with lasers and a UFO? I'd rather carve the thing with Occam's Razor tbh
I'm just guessing here but when he says "Megalithic Age", maybe he's implying the period of time that Stonehenge was constructed, because you know, MYSTERIOUS CONSTRUCTIONS
It is kind of strange that the Roman's could do that awesome granite work but thought the Egyptians obelisk where so amazing they would spend money and risk lives to move them all the way to rome
Exactly ,why did the Romans not build these kind of things in Rome? This dude is being is being paid to try and ridicule people who are asking obvious questions wich academie don't want asked.
YOU ARE VERY IGNORANT OF THE PAST AND THE OBVIOUS HIGH-TECH ANCIENT MEGALITHIC STRUCTURES OF OUR PAST. WHY IS IT THAT THE INCAS IN PERU COULD MAKE THESE AMAZING STONE WALLS (WALLS WHICH WE CAN'T DUPLICATE WITH TODAY'S TECHNOLOGY) AND YET COULD ONLY COBBLE TOGETHER SMALL ROCKS FOR THEIR KINGS? WHY IS IT THAT NOBODY, NOBODY CAN EXPLAIN HOW THE MEGALITHIC STONE STRUCTURES WERE BUILT. THE ESTABLISHMENT THINKS THEY WERE WHITTLED AWAY CHIP BY CHIP TO PRODUCVE A SUPER-HUMAN FIT WHERE A HUMAN HAIR CANNOT FIT IN THE JOINTS. STUDY UP ON THIS BEFORE YOU COMMENT.
@@davidhathaway3369 Why are you shouting? LOL. Watch this channel's other videos- he conclusively debunks the "nobody can explain how these were built" trope, while providing credible sources to back up his assertions.
@@jamesboyle7163 SHOW ME PROOF OF A DUPLICATED INCA WALL, NOBODY CAN EXPLAIN HOW THESE STONES WERE FITTED TOGETHER, I WANT TO SEE HIM REPRODUCE THE INCA WALLS, hAHAHahha
@@jamesboyle7163 OK IF IT IS SO OBVIOUS AND NO MYSTERY TO IT THEN WHY IS THERE LITERALLY HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE STUDYING HOW THESE MEGALITHIC SITES WERE BUILT??? WHY IS IT STILL A MYSTERY. IF HE IS SO SMART THEN WHY DOESN'T HE RE-PRODUCE THE INCA WALLS?
The Egyptians were polishing granite blocks and granite statues with curves thousands of years before this. Any good stone mason can tell you how to do it without diamonds or a lathe (which was never a thing in stone work). Sure, the old way takes longer, but it often produces better results. Anyone who tells you some stone work is "so good" it could only be done with machines is nuts.
Yes. Egyptian craftsmen were "salary workers" who were provided their basic needs as their pay. Accordingly they could focus upon their work and perfecting their skills. They benefited by the fact that the Egyptian civilization existed for 3 millennia. Thus whereas other cultures came in the course of a few centuries and went their persisted and as such knowledge could be passed along more easily and technologies improved upon with time. So "time" was there for them as they were being paid to do the work. Undoubtedly it was difficult - BUT - they likely enjoyed a standard of living above the average Egyptian toiling in the fields. The "alternative" schtick tries to infer what we see was either owing to some mystical "lost" technologies - and/or that the Egyptians were "primitives". What we see however was not a result of some rando working in a mud brick hut somewhere. It rather represents work of castes not unlike modern guilds of craftsmen. Final thought to illustrate this point. In the west valley of the Valley of the Kings recent excavations have been ongoing looking for lost tombs. Old maps of the valley created long ago depicted what was believed to be an area of a few worker huts. Upon excavation however those few huts turned out to be a much larger area where fragments of precious stones were found indicating = a manufactory. So the Egyptian built a large workshop which could accommodate numerous individuals there where burial items were being fabricated. Not "randos" = organized groups of craftsmen performing a job. Not exactly "primitive" after all. 🤨
@@varyolla435 In ancient Egypt, quality was money, while today only time is money. We think our machines make better quality work, but really they only make the work faster so we end up with sloppy work, and wonder at the ancient's craftmanship.
@@kimwelch4652 Today our economy is built upon = "consumption". Ergo there is no economic value in creating items which can last a long time as you want people to have to replace them. There still exists "niche markets" of course which pander to quality - at a considerable price which few can afford - but most things are simply not made to last. Ancient Egypt however many things were created as alluded to by individuals who were working based upon what their "patron" wanted to expend to create something. Thus you got what you paid for. Still - later one one sees items being made for commercial purposes. Here is an example. Egyptologists have unearthed underground caches of mummified animals for burial items and as votive offerings = literally millions of them. Further there is considerable "disparity of outcome" in quality of what is seen. Some mummified animals reflect high quality mummification with the item being the actual depiction - meaning a mummified cat is actually a cat. Other items however have shown to be "knock-offs" of lower quality with the item not reflecting itself. So a supposed "cat" upon being x-rayed might simply be a bundle of sticks wrapped up in the shape of the cat. The plausible conclusion is the temples who ran the mummification sites were generating items for both people of means and tourists with you getting what you paid for. Because in their minds a depiction of a cat is still a cat in their afterlife the fact that it is merely a facsimile apparently did not matter.
Excellent. I was slowly starting to get sucked in by the 'Alternate History' mob. I needed a reality check and this was it. I have subscribed and am working my way through your posts. Thank you.
Same, it can be fun to imagine "what if" but I hadn't realised just how persuasive - and even deceptive - many of that crowd are. At the very least, they engage in heavy cherry picking and "personal incredulity" type reasoning, while discounting anything that doesn't fit with their narrative. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and the evidence just isn't in their favour. I also find it pretty insulting that people like Brian don't believe ancient groups of people could have built such amazing things. Just because we live different lives today, and have different technology levels, doesn't mean they didn't have artisans, architects and stone workers who spent their lives honing their craft! It's fascinating to learn about the actual history, it blows my mind, I actually prefer it to wild speculation these days as this actually happened! It's phenomenal and so interesting :)
13:40 Since granite is harder and marble is softer, the density is also slightly higher. This does not mean that marble is heavier. Maybe in some cases it is. But the difference is small. the differences are so small that it's not really worth mentioning
Call me gullible but I believed a lot of Briens info a couple of years back, thank you for exposing his misinformation, another great video keep it up mate.
I’m interested in knowing is there another example of Romans building with similar sized megalith stones such as those at Baalbek? I’ve not seen that in any other Roman buildings I can think of. I think quite often with people like Brian foerster an initial anomaly or unexplained idea is often embellished with layers of additional hypotheses that simply aren’t true. Thanks for the great videos it’s interesting to see someone taking the time to explain.
Luke there are no other buildings like these in Rome itself . Why would they not have?, is a question this guy never asked. This guy,I believe is being paid to try and ridicule people who are asking question's that the academic have no reasonable answer to. What about the boxes in Egypt that were built out of the one stone and the angles were within a thousand of an inch? Today's technology cannot do this. They said they could make a Box like it but would have to use 4 separate bits of stone.
@@lukerobinson3983 Herod the Great was client King imposed by the Roman Senate after Judea was conquered and annexed to the Roman Empire (strictly, initially to the Roman Republic of course). Herod was very pro-Roman and opposed by a significant portion of the population, many of whom didn't believe he was Jewish. His building programme used Roman techniques and technology, it was a style of Classical architecture that can be placed firmly in the Roman world.
I work on cnc processing of granite and marble ...You have no idea how difficult it is to work even today with such accuracy and dimensions ...I don't know who created Baalbeck but the story is definitely different .If you do not believe it, learn CNC machining yourself and show us how you process such columns and how long it will take you ....Your problem is theory and lack of practice ...
@@WorldofAntiquity Let Them make a short movie for you, block processing for a column (or or something similar ) with similar dimensions ,polished ... tell tThem to say it's for Your channel on the yt :) .... You have no idea how long it takes and what machines you need to process! Cost cutters ! You're lying because you don't know anyone ehhehe . One more ...I am talking about modern times (CNC) but this temple was created a long time ago without modern machines ,primitive tools were used :D ....Do an experiment and build a small version of the temple using the old methods, tools , stone and you can end the speculation how it was done . Baalbek is not a great construction , In India I have seen buildings much more precise and magnificent .I cannot even imagine how people did it ! Even today it is a challenge for modern technology (I have been working on modern cnc machines for 16 years )
That aswan granite was transported by Rome. However they found it already cut into huge 100 ton plus pieces. Pre flood cities. Which they cut to and plundered for their use. Destroying huge monuments and buildings now lost to time.
It'a fascinating having more mental-food to digest into trying to figure out how the megalithic work was done and how the huge stones were moved and put in place with absolute precision. Thank you for an accademic perspective.
@@alexverdugo7535 Foerster ends up by concluding that the really large stones and columns were made and moved by: ● ancient beings other than humans ● by aliens with "advanced" tech ● by an ancient race of Giants ● that HE really doesn't know either So *who* is really spreading all the bullsh*t?
@@lifes40123 GGGGGGGGreat to hear from you. There are so many known unknowns that it's good to know some things. Concrete was used all those millenia ago. But they knew a lot more. This is my research on The Great Pyramid of Giza. 1. It is 3/60th of a single degree of true north 2. It weighs 6 million tons 3. Its footprint is 13 acres 4. It is more than 755.9 feet along each side 5. It is 146.75 meters high 6. It has more than 2.3 million individual blocks of stone 7. It is locked into the Cardinal dimensions of our planet; The dimensions of the Earth are incorporated into its dimensions. 8. If you take the height and multiply it by 43,200 you get the polar radius of the Earth 9. If you measure the base perimeter of the pyramid accurately and multiply that measurement by 43,200 you get the equatorial circumference of the Earth 10. The scale is not random, the number 43,200 is derived from a key motion of the Earth, which is called the precession of the Earth’s axis 11. The Earth wobbles on its axis very slowly at the rate of 1 degree every 72 years; 43,200 is a multiple of 72; 600 X 72 12. So; they’ve given us the dimensions of the planet in The Great Pyramid of Giza on a scale defined by the planet itself 13. There are several 70-ton blocks of stone raised 300 feet above the ground 14. It has eight sides, and at the spring equinox and the autumn equinox one side of the pyramid is in the shade in the morning and again in the late afternoon and can only be seen from the air-as far as my research has shown. 15. It is a calendar 16. It has expansion joints 17. It is located at the exact intersection of the longest line of latitude and the longest line of longitude of the Earth, in other words The Great Pyramid is located at the precise center of the Earth’s land mass. 18. The builders possessed highly sophisticated knowledge of mathematics and geometry 19. The builders had knowledge of the true dimensions of the Earth to extreme precision 20. The builders possessed exceptionally advanced technical instrumentation to site The Great Pyramid 21. Pi = C over D Phi = Divided by 5 + 1 over 2. Archimedes discovered Pi about 250 BC, but Egyptians knew of it 2,250 years earlier 22. The Great Pyramid is 146.75 m high, its height X a million equals the distance from the Earth to the sun 23. If you subtract the inner circle from the outer circle of the circumference of The Great Pyramid, you get the speed of light in meters to four decimal points: 299,792,458 meters per second 24. The weight of The Great Pyramid is 5,273, 000 tons and that multiplied by a billion is the weight of the Earth 25. If you divide the perimeter of The Great Pyramid by ½ its height, the result is 3.14 = Pi 26. The three inner rooms; the king’s chamber, the queen’s chamber and the unfinished chamber under the pyramid are proportional to the distances between Mercury, Venus and the Earth. 27. The distance from The Great Pyramid to the North Pole is the same as the distance from The Great Pyramid to the center of the Earth. 28. The height of The Great Pyramid 146.75 m X 1 million = the distance from the Earth to the sun. 29. The weight of The Great Pyramid 5,273, 000 tons X 1 billion = the weight of the Earth. 30. If you divide the perimeter of the pyramid by 1/2 its height the result is 3.14 pi h/2 = pi These are of course mere coincidences that happen by chance... 31. The base side length is 364.242 which is exactly the time in days it takes for the earth to orbit the sun. 32. The high chamber is built on a double square, which leads us to the gplden ratio geometry 33. Pyramids in China, Mexico and Egypt align with the Orion star system...
It's funny how instead of being awed by feats of the Romans, Forrester goes immediately to his pet cause. This philosophy, when it isn't just racism, is just about underestimating premodern technology and premodern effort. We don't do this kind of thing not because we can't, but because we've found easier ways. Does he dismiss castles? Canals? Aqueducts? Bridges? why can't the same people who built the Pantheon and Colosseum also drag giant columns across the Mediterranean? Medieval peasants built hundreds of Cathedrals and mosques and temples and the Great Wall of China with wooden cranes and ropes. What does he think premodern people were capable of doing? Are wattle and daub houses the limits of his understanding?
With the utmost respect @David: I value your deductive criticism on Brien’s inductive perspective, but could you please shed some light and offer some insights as to why modern production processes fail to replicate ancient production processes? For example in the transportation of large granite and marble pieces, what was their infrastructure like? What is their estimated capital requirement, workman skill level, and the combined workhours needed to complete the transport? What type of mechanical technology were they dealing with? Why can’t a lathe be possible? Looking at megalithic Egyptians I think they were likely experts in the use of wheels and turning lathes, they probably just trade protected it within military confines.
When you say, "modern production processes fail to replicate ancient production processes," I don't know what you mean. The ancient processes have been replicated. The reason why we reject the lathe idea is not because it isn't possible, but because we have ancient descriptions of the process, and we have examination of the objects, which show how it was done. As for your other questions, these are something only an expert on the subject can answer, and I am not one. I'm sure I could dig and find out, but I don't know off the top of my head.
@@WorldofAntiquity my deepest appreciation and gratitude for the reply; I believe the whole point of contention lays with “The ancient processes have been replicated...we have ancient descriptions of the process, and we have examination of the objects, which show how it was done”, this point of contention is much more than about the marble pillars but relate to all megalithic and rock cut structures from the near east to the far east and Eurasia all the way around south america; and the most troubling is that, scientific engineering communities are split on this issue, one cannot discount the shear number of engineers who believes the ancient ruins are orders of magnitude beyond our present capabilities even with the most advanced technologies available; moreover a disconnect between the ruins and mismatched cultural heritages left behind cannot be accounted; in short, we have difficulty recreating the simplest of the ruins, like symmetrical rock faces or vitrified rock dugouts, then there are the mountain tops, caves and underground chamber structures thereby even more ‘impossible’. With all due respect the burden should be on the archeologists to offer publicly accepted expert opinions on the nuts on bolts which back up the veracity of suspect ancient descriptions, until there’s a general consensus, all idea should be explored with an open mind. I believe a few research papers in applied sciences over the last 2 decades give us a glimpse of how ancients may have mastered biological and biochemical processes that us modern humans are only beginning to try to understand. Again thanks for the opportunity to exchange ideas; look forward to becoming one of your patrons.
@@mcigmcig I have noticed that many independent researchers keep repeating many of the claims you just have. But the fact is, expert opinions have been published, and there is a general consensus too (for each theory). It seems independent researchers are not fully informed. There may be an odd culture here or there where there are still unanswered questions, but each one needs to be judged on an individual basis. You speak of the great number of engineers who disagree, but I don't think there are as many as you think there are.
@ChrisShortyAllen When it comes to Foerester there is no need to bother being intellectual. But hey, you searched back 2 years to try to have a comment...lol
I just love how certain people are riding around the fact that your channel has less views than Foerster's. I mean, what does this have to do with the actual topic? 😆 One wants to desperately facepalm...
What's even more facepalm is that this guy here makes rookie mistakes such as pretending that iron tools would do anything to granite. Only diamond would work on granite. Rookie mistake and shameful.
I mean... fair is fair... Brien may get one thing wrong sometimes (supposedly) and yet mainstream archaeologist fans screech that it means he's wrong about everything. Mainstream archaeology was created to control the narrative.
“Nuked from orbit” but I found you prior Baalbek vid utterly compelling and I never had a problem with Iron Age romans working granite and fabulously so at that. I found your note regarding the Greeks not favoring it interesting and look forward to more discussion of copper age cultures working harder materials (granite, andesite, quartzite, basalt, dolerite) Did the Egyptians, South Americans or Indians have such fancy lifting contraptions? I assume they never woulda started the 1100 ton obelisk in Aswan if they couldn’t have transported and lifted it into place.
Look up the " Scientists Against Myths" channel. they have posted many experiments with copper and more primitive stone tools on granite, Inspired by them I filmed and posted many how to videos on cutting, drilling and polishing granite with primtive tools and materials. Tools seen in the archaeological record. Not only is it possible but even in a short time of a couple of hours, or even less depending on the operation. you can do the things the lost high technologists describe as impossible or taking an inconceivably long time.
@@SacredGeometryDecoded I’ll check it out! I have been *extremely* disappointed in the mainstream work/experiments I have seen on this topic in the past.
To me this is constructive criticism that needed to happen. It's almost like a evolution vs creation debate. I too was initially somewhat intrigued by this alternate historian so to speak. To be fair he is not without knowledge on history especially regarding Peru sites. I began though to see problems in the claims being made, most notably the repetitive claim that bronze age technology could not possibly have done this stonework in Peru. I was not seeing any demonstrations of metal work failing or that metal work was even part of the process. Nothing! The correlations only continued as I watched this video. I had then had no doubt that the scientific method is not satisfactory for some people and probably won't be changed. Thankyou Dr. David Miano!
The fact that things are still “obviously laser smooth and precise” after thousands of years of weathering and wear raises a few red flags towards its validity for me
Your funny 😂...it's amazing how hard people try to mask the truth. So who paid you? Are you part of the alphabet groups? Or part of " the intellectual" that are hell bent on proving MAN is responsible for things they didn't even have to tools to do. Everyone should look at this video as comedy
You are good example of the madness of the internet. I would bet you voted for Trump, buy Q-Anon books, and are also a flat earther but ok 👍
*_"it's amazing how hard people try to mask the truth."_*
You absolute arse.
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Intresting, isn't it, that all Conspiritards seem to have poor education and dreadful grammar, spelling and punctuation?
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What kills me about all these "ancient aliens"/"ancient civilization" people step over a hundred pieces of data to pick up five or six random bits, then weave a narrative whole cloth that ignores 99% of the actual evidence, but fits comfortably into whatever vague nonsense they're selling.
Exactly ! They never present a cohesive argument, just their cherry picked convenient facts...
That’s basically how the mainstream opinions were also formed. That’s really how it goes when you’re trying to assemble a cohesive picture of the ancient past. It’s all more of an interpretation which is why archaeology isn’t really a science. It’s competing belief systems where very few people are ever truly objective.
Most theories in both the mainstream and alternative sides get some things right but likely miss a large portion. In the future we may view our current understanding as ass backwards. Hard to tell since it potentially only takes one turn of the spade to make us question everything.
I feel like they present pretty cohesive arguments. Both sides do. Doesn’t make them correct and neither has to be 100% right or wrong.
@@thatsmyassbrostop Your statement that science fact presented by qualified scientists is a "belief system" highlights why unqualified people think it's totally fine to believe in crazy conspiracies !
The Dunning Kruger effect in action.... SIGH
@@edwardfletcher7790 are you unaware of how often “qualified” scientists have been wrong about something, often for quite a long time, because they assumed or took things for granted?
We forget about when they where wrong after the fact but the majority of scientific history is being wrong.
Science shouldn’t be about belief in any theories but unfortunately science is done by humans, who have things such as ego, pride and greed.
I’m also not so sure that you know what a conspiracy theory is. Lol. Having a different opinion about history is not a conspiracy theory. It’s a regular theory, just like the mainstream interpretation. They’re all just theories. You call it a “conspiracy theory” as an ad hom so that you can feel better about outright dismissing it. It’s an overcompensation.
You mention the dunning-Kruger effect however you’re the one speaking from arrogance here. It’s ok to say that you don’t know, which is what most alternative history people suppose.
@@thatsmyassbrostop I guess I should have expected a rant instead of meaningful discourse.... SIGH
You could write an entire encyclopedia library on the things that Brian Forrester gets wrong
Isn't that just called "history, engineering and architecture"?
@@Ugly_German_Truths not according to Graham Hancock
And that boob of a human, is on AA 1/3 of the time, as a respective authority. He only has a HS diploma, and I'm not joking. He writes books entitled, "How Bigfoot COULD have shot JFK, and got away with it, with the help of Aliens."
@@waltherforstmann3659 this form of anti intellectual sells and sadly it harm's the progress of us all
Forrester may not get everything right but he points out many things that contradict the official story of ancient history and the 25 books he has written sell well.
The megaliths of Baalbek are definitely Pre-Inca.
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Yes by the killke culture
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When they Romans needed to build a mountain (ramp) to siege Masada (1,500 feet), it only took them between 4-7 months. About half a year to make a small mountain and attack it with battering rams. So of course they could build Ba'albek.
Yes , of course as we are ignorants its pretty easy to say "yuo cant move this" cuase its very dificult to us , but in fact with simple techiques yuo can do it.
Ther many know examples about that
@@noway8233 Yes. Thank You :)
@Joe -- Masada? Brian Foerster has single-handedly uncovered "proof" that an advanced Megalithic civilization travelled in time to Roman Judea, built the siege fortifications at Masada, then returned to their own time.
Foerster will present this truth, but only to those who buy into his next trip to the "sacred sites".
The Romans worked in much lighter weights. Piling up rubble that weighs 150 tons and moving a 150 ton piece of granite are widely different projects.
@@DOOMGROOM yeah a worrior nation they conquered cities.. don't recall building them.
Dr Miano once again provides a highly informative refutation of Foerster's wild assertions. "World of Antiquity" is very educative in that you learn a great deal sound history in the process of watching the refutation of these conjectures that are relentlessly presented by Brien Foerster as proper research. Thank you Dr Miano.
What is conjecture is exactly what the guides say if you visit such sites. They don't have aclue themselves. Although you probably need more imagination to think slaves / stone age workers built amazing structures
Lol this Brennan is a joke.
@@MrDOB1000 Stone age builders built all kinds of cool stuff.
And bronze age people built the pyramids.
Ancient Greeks called a lot of this Cyclopean Masonry and said non humans built them. There are a lot of unanswered questions about these structures.
those who doubt human ability to move large objects with simple techniques should look up the well documented 'Thunder Stone" moved to St. Petersburg in the 1700's - or how the City of Chicago, including massive buildings, was raised several feet in the 1800's using little more than the simple ancient technology of screw jacks.
@@haaggus ruclips.net/video/j9w-i5oZqaQ/видео.html
@@haaggus the fact that those Obelix were transported from Egypt and erected in Rome is a prove that people could move large objects.
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Yeah, that raising of Chicago is unreal.
You better look deeper into the thunderstone story. There are a lot of weird things, many people mentioned the statue before it was supposedly erected and the stone was mentioned too. There are books, paintings and notes by a variety of people. The dates dont add up and if you look closely to the inscriptions they have also been changed. The statue might actually be of alexander the great. Dont take my word for it, look it up.
Perfectly laser round. Perfectly laser smooth. Perfectly laser straight. Perfectly laser flat. I wish the Roman masons were here to hear that.
They would be proud, for sure.
*_"Perfectly laser round. Perfectly laser smooth. Perfectly laser straight. Perfectly laser flat."_*
But none of those artifacts actually exhibit those properties.
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They would ask “what’s a laser?”
Back patting is loud here.
Once someone explained to them what a laser are they would probably laugh.
Also he wasn’t talking about all the granite pillars he was implying the few stones that are insanely huge , if you are from the Middle East you know a lot of the Roman and Greeks actually built over these places that already existed and claimed it as if they built it . Certain things they did build but others hey didn’t
The stones you mention weigh 200,000 tons each and the video guy thinks the obelisks were the hardest thing to carry. They were because they didn't lay the 200,000 ton stones, someone else did much earlier.
@@markfelix8737 what do you mean by 200,000 the biggest one there is around 1200 tons
This guy has an agenda. A fake scholar.
@@markfelix8737 caçula te the volume of 200000 tons and you’ll quickly see that your perception is way off
@@anibaldamiao 200,000 tons × 2,000 = 400,000,000 lbs. Is that more clear?
The Romans hauled off huge obelisks from Egypt back to Rome. So they could bring some rocks from anywhere they wanted. It's called history.
These stones are way bigger then a stupid obelisk and you know it
I personally have used stones larger than cars in constructing retaining walls. So, am I a megalithic craftsman or builder?
(tbh, I guess I almost am... it is that pesky "happened a decade or so ago" part that prevents it from being actually true, given that the term is properly applied to things from the distant past, not-so-much stuff from just a few years ago.)
Working with stone of that size really made me appreciate just how skilled people in the past were. It is almost trivial today (almost, because safety is a concern) with the power equipment like the excavators we had. I never really get how people go from "damn, I am impressed that they could do this all those thousands of years ago." to "no way in hell they did this." I mean, it is obvious that it was done, as you can see these all over, someone had to do it and adding in some "other" that did the work with no evidence of this "other" existing, or existing in that area, is one hell of a leap.
addendum: We would joke about creating megaliths when we did work like that. And to be fair the word in itself only means giant motherf---er of a stone. And I guess that in the eyes of someone 3k years from now, maybe we did create some megaliths.
edit: I don't have a problem with people who, due to lack of knowledge, say things like "I find it hard to believe that _____ built this." That is healthy skepticism. I draw a line when people outright refuse to believe that people could build these things when shown evidence that they did in fact build them. There is no "change my mind" philosophy behind such statements, while that is very much a part of a scientific mindset.
The trouble lays in how they did it not if they did it
Brien watched the History channel late at night once and decided that's enough education to be an archaeologist. He asks questions that have been answered almost definitively, invents an uneducated answer and acts amazed because he's clueless.
I watched a video of him giving a tour through Egypt (back when I was into this stuff) and someone asks him what the historians say the “lightbulb” glyph really is. And he says “Now that, I don’t know…” and then he goes on to say that it’s very clear the image looks like a lightbulb.
He literally didn’t even bother to google what the room was before he accepted people’s money and led a tour in there. One google search turns up: the room in the Hathor temple at Dendera “depicts the Egyptian creation myth.”
There was another video where he’s touring people through South America and he didn’t know the name of the site. He just called it the megalithic site, but couldn’t remember what its actual name was. Just absolutely lazy. Even when I was a fan of lost ancient high tech, I couldn’t stand him.
Thank you for taking the time to make this detailed video. It's shocking how many people believe that Santa Claus built anything that they are too lazy to do the science on. Guess what? People can move mountains when they are motivated.
The frustration of Forester's cult followers in this comment section is truly astonishing.
why does everyone call it a cult? I've received more cult like behavior from the mainstream folk than I have from any "cult" members
@@e7ebr0w from personal experience, after talking with plenty of "believers". They display the same tought patterns, cognitive dissonance and most important of all, a very arogant Dunning-Krueger effect.
Also people who have no arguments, yet throw insults, like our friend above...
I'm not denying that the status quo can get to rigid/cult like sometimes and I think we all agree that cultism is bad and should be avoided from all parts.
@@MrAchile13 obviously so. the funniest thing I've come across would have to be a channel called sgd sacred geometry decided... or something similar. it's the craziest thing watching someone argue with narratives such as uncharted x and Brien by using even crazier arguments sometimes. I just wonder why people are worried about disrupting that "side of the fence" anyway. we all get taught the history in school, those people afterward just chose to wonder.... don't understand the strongly felt need to bring them back so to speak
@@MrAchile13 but as a point, in today's world, even ideas that aren't completely fringe, yet border on opposition to the current "narrative" are ridiculed so fervently, most people choose not to think out of the box. To me, it's always been insane to me that people today are so high and proud of themselves that they truly believe they understand how ancient man did anything.... so many years separate our times, and every day we discover new clues that argue with the current history. to think anything is impossible in the 100000 years humans have existed is crazy to me. the inhabitants of north sentinel island have been secluded there for 60000 years, and I get that it's an island, but they've done not much as far as monuments. Easter island for what I understand is pretty small, yet the Rapanui constructed the Moi (don't know how to spell it). One one hand it's absurd to think we know everything, but on the other, it's absurd that archaeology is the only science that makes conclusions from absence of evidence
@@e7ebr0w The problem is that people like uncharted x and forester are frauds. They literally lie on camera, cherry pick data and use logical fallacies, in order to make money form the gullible. And I'm not talking only about you tube and patreon, but about their insanely over priced tours. If you point out their lies, they will ban you from their channels.
All the talk about machine precision/high tech tool and lost global highly advanced civilizations is nonsense and I can explain in detail why, if you're interested. Archaeology is backed up by evidence, for the most part, the ones making conclusion from nothing are the the ones like uncharted and forester. Forester is such a fraud that he literally called pick axe marks "mysterious claw marks".
The Moai are simple statues, all you need is skill, people, wood, rope and stone hammers.
I love how you're debunking these claims - in a calm and polite way (unlike some other channels out there) Out of interest, would you have any vids on the marks and holes in Egyptian granite, some are claiming were created using circular saws and tube drills?
There is a section in my Historian Reacts video about it. ruclips.net/video/n_NguZUDku4/видео.html
roman origin,,i laugh.. we can not today, hewn out granite, 600t blocks, transport over mountains.500 miles... you are a joke.. you are mainstream bs.. i hope your paid well to lie, for a living..@@WorldofAntiquity
NOt debunking sh!t
@@dougcard5241facts, he cant explain how it was built
@@dougcard5241 Completely debunked if you have a brain and live in reality.
Beautiful debunk. You are a gift to proper research and LOGIC.
Imagine thinking that one of the MOST capable ancient peoples, the roman empire, was not able to move these stones. I can understand someone thinking that it is hard for hunter gathers to get together and erect monuments but...the roman empire? Ever been to rome?
@@Donsdoom yeah but how they move and lift 1000 ton stone?
"Ahhh, another giant rock, ancient high technology spotted!"
These guys are crazy. Generalizing everything, undermining the intelligence and ingenuity of these ancient civilizations.
When me and my two brothers were children we went to a living history stone age theme park, there was a boulder about the size of a small car on logs with ropes attached on it to try it out we got it to move it without effort, these people are either idiots, liars or extremely weak themselves.
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That big blocks of rock can be moved with enough manpower with ease. Proving the floaty pseudohistorians who think it could not be done back then wrong.
Ummm.. that more people could move larger stones further? It's not difficult to surmise. "Think for yourself". If you make a recipe by grams instead of volume, you can multiply or divide up to a very large point. As Recipe, so Stone moving.
engineers have looked at hypothetically moving the trilithon stones, most say it cant be done as the rock would crumble under its own weight once lifted. Some say it could be lifted and maybe moved a short distance but it would take the largest most capable machines we have to do it and even then, theyd barely make it.
@@dgafbrapman688 But which "engineers"?
27:30 He IS just eyeballing it. Notice how the pictures are always at an angle. They never show the straight edge actually close up touching the stone. Also, any tradesman worth a damn would use a longer straight edge on such a large surface.
I have seen Lyin' Brien Fraudster and David Hatcehtjob-Childish make these claims when you could see light shining through the huge gap between their set square and the stone.
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NOt a single angle he is mentioning is NOT a perfect cut. Why are you lying?
Dang I feel silly, I fell for this nonsense. I'm glad I found your channel!
It's lovely to read comments like yours. I think yours shows a humility we can all aspire to. Isn't it fascinating learning how this stuff was really achieved in antiquity, though?! :)
Hobby researchers are good with asking clever questions. The problem is their attempt to give answers. They ignore the huge amount of knowledge that exist within ”mainstream academics”, while they base their own (exotic) theories on empty words like ”obviously” or ”unquestionably”.
Mainstream academia may not be perfect, but we do have the ability to persevere with a problem until it is solved and then carefully document it.
Huge amount about what happened more than 5000 years ago? lol
@@dougcard5241 Research within history, linguistics, religion, archeology and other fields add up to quite a comprehensive knowledge about what life was like. Surely there are still many gaps to be filled but anyone who presents highly controversial theories needs to present extraordinary proofs, if they want to be taken seriously.
@@holmavik6756 Tell us a story based on any facts about what Sumerians were doing and when they learned to make marks on stone prior to 5000 years ago. Extra credit for anything you can tell me about the 'creatures' who built Gobekli Tepe. When did humans start worshiping gods? When they met any advanced including aliens. Prove that wrong or get lost. And stop thinking someone is an expert on what was up with Homo Sapiens since over 500kya. Why would I need to know whether the split from Neanderthals was 800 or 400kya? Feel free to explain why it took over 200k years to figure out how to quarry stones? Why were GIZA pyramids all built in 150 years out of 150k years?
Great video! Why are we taught that ancient people were ignorant brutes? Their lives were very simple compared to ours. They had a lot of time to master stone working!
WHO ever taught you the ancients were ignorant brutes??? I'm a geezer, and a well-educated one at that, INCLUDING a History degree, among others. In NONE of my history courses was that claim ever made. Instead, my professors always maraveled at what the ancients did, with the tools and concepts they had at hand.
Mastered stonework with copper tools that today's geniuses can't figure out. They also mastered the stars and advanced mathematics.
@@jelink22 Its relatively common in, well lets call it standard education, like in most middle and high schools where all of pre industrial history is done in 2 years
You are 100pc right
@@spokenclawm.4121 They like to never speak about using softer compounds against much harder surfaces, to precision. No duplications have been done either.
I would like to ask the builders did you save time cutting & moving huge stones vs: cutting up smaller stones making the moving less difficult? Or did you incorporate huge stones for earthquakes?
That's a great question, thank you so much!
@@matveyshishov Thank you, that comment made my day! ❤️
The quarries were usually quite some distance.. Why make 10000 trips when you can just make one?
@@olivervision Why aren't all Roman temples megalithic then?
*_"did you save time cutting & moving huge stones vs: cutting up smaller stones making the moving less difficult?"_*
That would make it _more_ difficult. It was easier for them to cut one 100 ton block than 100 one tonne blocks, and easier and quicker to move it, too. Think of the extra time cutting and the extra surface area that needed to be shaped.
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I think what the alternate history fans have to answer is why is it that Rome happened to be founded in a field of random Egyptian obelisks, that didn't influence Roman culture, and weren't even mentioned until they had to make up stories on how they were moved there. Really the late antiquity emperors were quite lucky no one had mentioned some of the largest obelisks until they came to power. And if these alternate history fans can admit that these giant objects were moved by the Romans, why is it that other objects couldn't have been moved by the Romans?
I’m SO GLAD you expose these grifters Dr Miano.
I built a limestone shed
I used really big blocks on the bottom and smaller blocks as I went up the wall ...it was easier than lifting the big blocks
Groundbreaking facts
Also you can't achieve curves and arches with massive blocks up top
Wait. If you have large blocks on the bottom and smaller blocks on top, then it is evidence that a lost civilization built the bottom and you just came later and built on top and now take all the credit.
@@Eyes_Open yes it's evidence that there was a high technology that was bigger than the low technology ...and I guess I must be megalithic ...
@norbertdjihnson if there was a civilization more advanced than ours, please, do tell, where is the material evidence? Yall love to talk about high technology... but where is it? Let's see one shred... thats all it would take... one single USB port, 1 miniscule insulated copper wire, 1 single fiber of synthetic fabric or materials... but alas.. there is none. If the ancients were so technologically advanced, why did they only build in stone? Why no glass and steel sky scrapers? Where's all the old broken computers and evidence of manufacturing plants, power plants (no the pyramids were not power plants... good lord) .... anything? Where is it?
Ohhhh.... right... it doesn't exist. Because it never did.
Shed?! you can't fool me, you're a martian from Atlantis.
@@Eyes_Open megalithic shed :)
Funny thing about Brien is that his books and lectures are pretty much the same things, almost word for word. If you heard a lecture, you might as well have read his book. Apparently he’s teaming up with Jimmy Atlantis, which is a huge step backwards if you ask me.
“Did you really say ‘hitherto unknown’?”
“Are you really leaning on the Cauldron of the Cosmos?”
*SMACK
Jimmy Atlantis, hahahahah. you won the internet for today with that one.
I keep posting links on Jimmy's no so Bright videos...instant delete. He's either monitoring or paying someone, i guess the grift does pay.
Jimmy is a douche and Brien needs a new hat.
Yes most of his videos he just repeats the same thing just different sites lol never anything new to say.
That guy is absolutely pretending to give a talk to a room, but when he looks up he only ever looks at the camera
That is funny and clever of you, and while I agree with your sentiment, a guy who regularly gets over 300,000 views on his videos would not struggle to fill a 30 person room.
@@Yeoldelole it's entirely possible for a guy who's enlightened to the existence of ancient alien technology to film a fake ted talk
@@eky I agree that it’s entirely possible, but he has drawn a lot of crowds at a lot of events for a lot of years. There’s no actual reason to assume that’s the case in any given video with him appearing to be on stage.
@@Yeoldelole yea i guess you convinced me, i can see it might be simply badly produced (acam's razor applies not just to lost high tech lol). You convinced me, in that case i imagine the point of the original commenter was that the guy was cooky enough do such a thing. Or maybe to bring to mind tiktokers that film fake podcast clips
@@eky oh he’s definitely nuts
An interesting point about the columns on the Pantheon: these columns (their origins are correctly stated) were not made for the Pantheon; archaeological work unearthed the original plan of that building on the ground right before it (probably as a builder's aid). The original plan was for taller columns, but the columns made for it sank in a storm during transport in the Mediterranean. The Pantheon was to be completed by a very important religious/political festival, so the existing columns were "robbed" off of another, smaller temple. The Pantheon, essentially a large sphere with a rectangular box attached, had to have an extra raised box added to it, which can be seen when looking at the front elevation. The extra box had to be added to balance the proportions, because the columns used were too short. Interestingly, an analogous example exists in Colonial Williamsburg, (Williamsburg, Virginia) which was the British capital of the American colonies before the Revolution. The pediment extending over the porch of the Court House simply hangs in the air with no columns beneath it (that wooden pediment is actually cantilevered from the main structure and columns are not structural requirements). The Brits had made and shipped stone columns for the Court House, but they sank into the Atlantic during a storm while on their way. So the pediment simply hovers over the porch to this day.
I really enjoyed this commentary on Brian foresters work. I've been watching his videos (and others like him) for a couple of years now. And haven't been able to find anyone to refute what they are saying. Until now. Instead of just calling him a nut job. You used a lot of facts to back up your position and refute his. You channel is exactly what I've been looking for, thank you very much for this informative presentation.
I look forward to hearing the response that he (Brian forester) might have for you. If he responds.
@@polycarp1334 You shouldn’t need others to debunk this. These claims are obviously false on their face. If you are vulnerable to these claims, you are no doubt susceptible to others. I recommend studying epistemology. It’s the basis of all knowledge and the most important skill to have in life.
What about the perfectly shaped caves in granite in India? There are quite a few artifacts and examples which cannot be explained with "many people simple tools" theories. Look at the granite boxes in serpeum for instance. No way they are made with simple chisels. I support critical debate and this is a good contribution, but it definitely do not debunk "extinct high civilisation" theories.
Yes you are looking at an extinct high civilisation, but you seem unsatisfied with that explanation. I don't understand you guys - ancient peoples made all this shit to tell us who they were and people like you piss all over it with this "aliens" or "ancient Apple Corporation" shit. Here's the secret - they fucking used their brains and backs to make these things. You know how we find out about ancient advanced machinery (aka simple cranes)? By fucking actually looking for tools and not spacecraft debris.
“No way they were made with simple tools”? How do you know? Seriously… Are you an expert? If somebody spends their entire life working at a certain job they’re going to be expert at it, there’s no TV… There’s barely any other distractions people are working 10 hours a day… And that’s all they’ve got to focus on, and you don’t think they can make something that looks perfect?
@@aronato9524 We can’t recreate some of the old megalith stone work and structures today with our modern tools. Still you think that ancient man did all this with simple copper chisels ? Open your mind and eyes !
What about the caves... this videos on heliopolis Baalbek isn't it?
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That’s not an argument. We don’t have a civilization devoted to making such megalithic (to use this term correctly) structures. Ancient civilizations made all kinds of structures with stone and were far more acquainted with the techniques for working it than we are. Our advanced technologies are devoted towards other purposes since it’s just not as necessary to make such structures. It’s just not cost effective for us and isn’t worth putting the resources into compared to building a space telescope. The “we can’t do it now” argument is no argument. These ancient civilizations were masters at working with stone and obviously developed techniques that we haven’t thought of. If we started devoting our time and energy to building such structures, we would no doubt quickly rediscover such techniques. You’re essentially engaging in a form of chauvinism regarding modern civilization and how it views past peoples.
Excellent work again.
The way he definitively makes statements about what Romans could and could not do shows he has zero interest in truth. It is about preserving the business model. For all the things that might be argued that he doesn't know basic facts on stone work, and makes a business of talking about stone, shows either total laziness in the issues he pretends to be passionate about, or shows he does know the basics but peddles falsehoods to preserve his profit margin.
Thank you Dr. Miano for another enlightening video...The part about turning stone at 12:00 is very interesting since even a basic search, Mr. Forster even at a "high school" level research effort would inform him of granite lathes that handled columns 1.8 m in diameter by 20 m long designed and used at the end of the 19century…
You should visit the temples in south India. It will blow your mind when you see chains made out of granite and a whole temple carved out of a a hill & also the pillars at the Warangal Temple and the extremely precise ceiling carvings. I would really love your explanation on that. Also explain how Angkor wat temple was made.
You cant even get your head around how complicated and impossible that is!
Very carefully
What's your explanation? Aliens, Demons, Gods?
@@Bulg329 men with extended hands in the form of chisels
That will kicked him in the head. Or maybe he will have an explanation of how those granite chains hanging from the ends of those Temples were made and also hung up.
An obelisk taken to Constantinople was set upon a base that is carved with a scene of it being raised with ropes and pullies. Also, it's set on lead blocks, which apparently act as shock absorbers during earthquakes.
How is this guy not laughed out of giving lectures talking about his crazy ideas and theories for history? He really does have a low opinion of ancient human builders. The ancients are way more capable and intelligent than we give them credit for.
I know, right?
Ancient builders yes but most certainly not done by old Kingdom Egyptians. They simply inherited these objects. The super high grade precision could never been achieved with copper tools and sticks. There was an older civilisation with superior technology who did this. So yes you are fooling yourselves here on this channel, but be aware that history books will be rewritten cause new evidence is found every day in every corner of the world.
@@WorldofAntiquity point is you do not know lmao so arrogant stating that you know 🙄
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Foerster in the future seeing ruins of Burj Khalifa:
"Ancient high technology culture from 30,000 years ago!! Can't be the people from that time 2000 years ago, 'cause they are dumb, stupid and primitive!"
Also notice he said "Moved the stones UP the Nile" when they would he moved DOWN the Nile because it flows from South to North.
This channel is a breath of fresh air. Actually trying to explain it instead of saying. "Ancient alien theorists believe"
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Brian forester is actually highly accurate most the time, I don't think I heard him say he was an expert just that he has a theory that makes more sense the mess that is antiquity theory. I'd say you both have good points. Why don't you all actually collaborate so the Aliens can finally land.
"Dude, there's no way that ancient people could've made these!"
"So here's a passage from back then detailing how they made these..."
All based on racist ideas from the 1800's. "Only white Europeans could have built the pyramids. The Egyptians are to stupid for it". The stupid racist conspiracy is already 200 years old!
I used to lay tile, usually it was natural stone. Cutting stone is all about abrasion not any unbelievable technology. Straight lines are easily created by a taught string (laser straight). The massive workforce available to the Romans have the potential for massive amounts of work/time reduction. It is not so mysterious.
These guys are selling mystery. It sparks the imagination and their claims are exciting but simply absurd.
Your cutting 3/8-1/4”!thick stone and even then if your using a tile cutter ( no large circular at saw and hose available) you can have something break wrong. Imagine these barbaric size stones and no tech. The number of people makes no difference in the cutting technique only in the transportation etc
@Anno Kitsune
I don’t think OP is a king who can command huge numbers of people to do the work.
Kenneth More. Well said. Foerster suffers from self delusion, as do quite a few other commentators.
@@TherealVinnie the number of people doing anything increases productivity
You can have multiple teams cutting stone at different locations to increase productivity ... 2 people work three times faster than 1
@@oftin_wong Or you can have multiple teams working on one massive stone, with one team cutting while the other teams rest, repair broken equipment, fetch supplies, etc.
We’re so used to super-efficient modern means of production that we forget how many problems used to be solved by throwing more time and people at it. Copper saws would dull too rapidly? Assign guys to swap out and sharpen saws. Cutting through a massive stone would take “too long”? Lengthen the project timeline. These buildings weren’t ordinary shops and houses put up by people who had to finish quickly so they could get back to their regular work. These were palatial buildings funded by fabulously rich people who could afford to pay a full-time workforce. (And grunt labor was cheap.) Overcoming obstacles by adding workers wasn’t a hardship, it was how things were done.
Foerster was one of the first getting me curious and asking questions, but I agree that some of his theories can be a bit tedious.
Especially when he walks around Egypt and talks about everything having heat damage from some cataclysmic event.
Forester tells the truth, the real story, but the stupid man in this video deceives us, ask him who built alora caves or anghor wat or serapuem tombs, of course it was built by lost technology that completely disappeared
I don't understand how his anomalies are all " cataclysmic events.
Actually there is evidence of this heat damage everywhere you look on earth. A cataclysm definitely happened in that era.
@@mikec4196 not "everywhere" only on select spots
@@remember_Pat_Tillman Depends on the lens you look through. There is a preponderance amount of evidence that points to ionic winds and plasma discharges creating many of the "geological" features we observe.
"Shock quartz', spheracles, scalloped ridges, triangle buttresses, crater chains, and terraced blisters are all common, and predicted by plasma discharge.
Technically, its probable our geography was sculpted by plasma discharge in preexisting epochs.
Isn't it funny, that Brien reads his entire presentation, and can never once bring his eyes to the audience while he is speaking? This is very clear body language which says "I'm lying to you all but can't look you in the eye while I'm doing it."
Either that or, "Despite saying the exact same stuff for many years, I still can't remember a single sentence of my presentation."
@@Chris.Davies or he has some adhd or low autism I don't look at people in the eyes it makes me uncomfortable
I look at it like this, the ancent people could do the same stonework as us, it just took longer, required more people, and was harder work, but they still got it done cause they really, really wanted too.
I'm no archaeologist but i like history you make a great point about the smaller work beneath the monoliths and when I seen one of their other videos before yours I saw in south America smaller work like the top of monoliths underneath and always wondered how they came to these conclusions but anyway thanks professor!!!
There should be a Nobel price for fact checking.
Him claiming that the surface of the bottom of one(?) of the column(s) is 'almost laser-flat' - when seeing him 'measuring' and concluding that statement with nothing more than a standard 25cm (or 10 inches) long 90-degrees tool (sorry-don't know the name of the tool in English, but I'm sure you know what I mean) is just ludicrous....that he didn't at least use a 'ruler' (again-don't know what the name of that tool is: the one with water and an airbubble in it?) as long as the column's diameter, at the very least. Well, as someone who's used to work with wood - it really does surprise me, to say the least. How on earth are you supposed to judge, even with your eyes, how 'flat' something is without having at least some kind of tool that's as long as the diameter (and of course-accurately 'flat')?
We have, historically at least, for a long time kept underestimating the capabilities of our forefathers.....but - after a couple of centuries of countless finds such as these ones (even totally buried ones), and also written records as well as other strong indicators that strongly suggest that this or that empire or people did in fact erect these impressive monuments themselves (be it preserved on paper, papyrus or clay, etc.) - you'ld think that era would be over by now...? BUT - apparently not, I guess.
Sure - these monuments, all over the world are immensely impressive. Without a doubt. Especially when considering that they had to do everything, at every step purely by hand.
BUT, again - we mustn't forget that practically EVERYTHING had to be done by hand in those days, which of course means that ALL artifacts, as well as all kinds of artisans in those days were well versed in making everything by hand. Every single 'step' of it...And since there wasn't even a though given to any alternative, since there were none: people probably started to 'work on their skills' from early childhood - not like today, where we have the choice of using modern machinery. Which of course ultimately means that ALL and every artisan, regardless which material used were very well-versed in making all things - from start to finish - entirely by hand! AND - that there must have been a lot more of these artisans. That's at least what my reasoning and logic is telling me.
Also - isn't the fact that these guys not only are selling books and making a living out of their 'special theories' a bit suspicious? Especially while they also 'offer' tours where they will "reveal the real truth" about these 'megalithic structures' - for a handsome fee...to me at least it sounds almost a bit 'cultish'!!! *ALARMBELLS!*
Sorry, got a little 'worked up' I guess.
Great video, as always Mr. Miano. Subscribed as soon as I saw your channel, since I'm a bit of a 'history-nerd' - and you and your content are so great! (If it wasn't for the fact that I'm simply not in a position where I'm financially able to - I'ld support your channel in a heartbeat!).
Cheers from Sweden!
Stones were recycled from an earlier time. Does he mention the megaliths that were unfinished? They had "scoop marks" at the bedrock that look like ice-cream scoop marks, but they were made in granite. How was that done?
They aren’t scoops. They are not uniform. It’s the pattern you get when using stone on stone with the quarrying method of leaving a middle section to break and it’s found in many Stone Age quarries around the world. We still quarry in some instances in the same way and they did it this way all through the Stone Age, Iron Age, and now.
@@Eye_of_Horus How do you explain the polygonal stone walls in Cusco, Peru where you cannot fit a business card between the cracks? Yet, you cannot find any examples of "scoop marks" in quarries in Peru. There were advanced civilizations long before the "Stone Age" restart.
@@beameup64 I used to be very into the alternative like you seem to be. The cuzco walls are impressive. But let’s assume they were hard to explain. Is there anything else, anything else at all that points to a Stone Age civilization with high tech? Keep in mind we have countless archaeological data from all over the globe during the entire Stone Age. And not just stone. There are also some finds of organic material such as baskets, clay pottery, etc. why don’t we find anything in these eras that lends to the idea of an ancient high tech society Anywhere on the earth?
With that out of the way, this channel has a video dedicated especially to the polygonal works of Peru. Why we know when and how they were built. It isn’t as much of a mystery as people like foerster try to make it. They are firmly dated to the Inca, and the Spanish even chronicle that they had the Inca build some of these polygonal works FOR them in cuzco for their own buildings.
@@beameup64 none of what you said is true.
@@jamisojo Unless you have poor eyesight, you can look the world over for the obvious remains of very ancient advanced civilizations literally "etched in (very large) stones". These "monuments" cannot be replicated by today's civilization.
What I find more bizarre is where you find the patience to deal with these things. Who are you, The Buddha?
I dare you to do a video about Brien Forester being wrong about his signature issue... elongated skulls.
I'm going to hazzard a guess and say "It was Aliens".
I think he changed his mind on that, didn't he?
@@WorldofAntiquity No. Brien has made elongated skull videos as recently as 1/27/21 (Paracas Wildlife Refuge And Ancient Child Mummy In Peru) and 1/13/21 (Intriguing Ancient Artifacts AT The Penn Museum In Philadelphia). Brien has always maintained that elongated skulls are a separate species and not the result of head-binding techniques.
@@WorldofAntiquity if you look at his instagram page he still most definitely proposes the elongated alien skull theory
So there were aliens and the only proof are their slightly different skulls and sweet granite columns. lol, what
My frustration is media gives these people equal/any voice.
More than equal. TV is almost nothing but alt history and psuedo archaeologist these days
Foester is a great man! You do not understand Ancient High tech because you have not read the texts, have not appreciated the engineering techniques required. And yet you comment about your betters? SAD!
Brien is a Legend, opening many eyes, a great explorer and Inspiration! 🍻⚡
@@TheLostHistoryChannelTKTC Yeah! The best, he is really the best, 20 books, unbelievable!
@@TheTimeDetective42 🔱⚡🔱
What, in your opinion, makes him great? He most certainly doesn't "read the texts," nor is he an engineer.
@@WorldofAntiquity Thats right, He openly admits the Hieroglyphics don't interest him that much because they are NOT Predynastic like the Megaliths are. He *is* an Engineer, Brien is interested in why and how this was done, What makes him great? DNA Testing the Starchild skull to the Black Sea was pretty staggeringly great! Even before THAT Realisation, He was one of those 'Lone Figures' showing us ALL The anomalies, You should show more respect 👍Making a video headlined like that? And he doesn't say its Impossible for Humans to have done certain things like shift the stone of the south, he says that based on what we are led to believe, our education tells us it was impossible when it clearly was not! But again, How and why? Check out the squatter-man project for some of the answers. 👍
Great video. Ancient humans were a lot smarter than we think they were.
Like Obelix the Gaul ?
They were smarter because they sanely accepted such extraordinary challenges on every megalithic project they involved?
They were not only smart but also far better experts at working stone than what we are today (with manual tools) and Foerster is an arrogant fool who thinks back then they were kind of retarded. So far from the truth.
@@littledan6994, the contrary to be honest.
The 330ton Vatican obelisk was moved from Egypt to Rome, it stood for 1500 years until it was relocated in 1585 to it's current position. It took 900men and 140 horses to erect the 330ton obelisk. Sketches can be seen of that moving event. If they could ship and erect a 330ton stone from Egypt, couldn't they also move ('only' side) a 1000ton stone over 900 meters in Baalbek? Likely so. The 1900 year old Trajan's Column has a 53.3 ton capital block that was lifted and placed on 34meter height. Don't underestimate what the Romans were capable of.
no one has even attempted this still if it's a snap surely somebody would do it .a group of Archaeologists accompanied by engineers tried to build a pyramid a sixth the size of one at giza for many a summer and eventually had to abandon their attempts after failing comically.
@@bernardsimsic9334 Did you look up the sketches? Search for "moving the obelisk 1585" on Google images. You said: "if it's a snap surely somebody would do it" Who would have the budget to do something like that? It's far from being 'just a snap', we are talking about cutting down hundreds of big old trees just to replicate the moving of a giant 800-1000 ton stone. That's not justifiable in the current age. Actually the Romans caused a lot of deforestation in the Mediterranean, for construction, heating blacksmiths ovens as wel as cooking and heating homes.
@@bernardsimsic9334 Amazing that someone can read 900 men and 140 horses and interpret that as it "being done in a snap"
Maybe this VIDEO of a walking Moa statue will open your eyes a bit to how human could move large things with only ropes in this case. ruclips.net/video/7j08gxUcBgc/видео.html
Balbeek stone weights 1,700ton.
@@bernardsimsic9334 Their first mistake was using engineers and archaeologists. Lol. Some decent stone masons would have done it quite quickly I'd bet.
There's something about having grown up so close to a Deep Hole Granite Quarry semi-famous for a multitude of reasons (including the quality of the stone etc) that makes people's inability to believe that you don't need diamond tools to mine or work stone completely insane to me. the Quarry I grew up near does tours of some of their Quarry holes and shows the old equipment used to mine stones, so I've been aware for ages that iron and steel was good enough for facing, and polish has always been a matter of grit and rubbing.
Hell, I've taken stone carving classes, and Granite is one of those stones that is very amenable to carving and finishing (though is also a major risk for silicosis) we didn't use any diamond tools in that carving class either!
Looking forward to the "giant lathe" and megalithic rock transporter slide shows by Brian.
I'm always curious to know exactly how advanced these ancient advanced civilisations are supposed to be.
That's the fun of it, since there's no positive evidence you can shove just about anything in the gaps. This guy keeps things vague, but the history channel dudes say Baalbek was a landing pad for spaceships. Built out of cut rock, no advanced materials.
Well,.. the Romans used to refer to chickens to tell the future
The Egyptians thought the sun died every night to be born again in the morning ...highly advanced
@@oftin_wong That didn't stop them being pinnacles of civilisation in lots of other areas.
@@theradgegadgie6352
exactly
...some pinnacle, best not to imagine that they were highly advanced ...
Where do you think the term
.." you can't take it with you"..
Came from?
.... Just ask a pharaoh
@@oftin_wong Well, he'd probably disagree with it.
Odd thing about these civilisations: they reached the pinnacle of their development after a century or two, and then did bugger-all innovative for two thousand years. No more inventions, nothing. That's the big different between them and us. Even fifty years produces radical differences in our world.
I can barely express how delighted I am that this video has nearly 2,000 views rn, but I'm still bummed that his video has over 300,000.
So many people would rather believe fairy tales and nonsense rather than be fascinated by the REAL scholarly, informed research done on these sites.
We need to make debunking nonsense as popular as the nonsense.
SUPPORT THIS CHANNEL ON PATREON!!
Its more fun to believe in advanced civilization that are lost. I think deep down inside many people believe the truth, but choose to follow pseudoscience for the serotonin boost lol
@@mariolongtin8271 but the realities, the things we can verify and comprehend, are SO much cooler than the nonsense! And all the MORE fascinating because they're true! 🤷♂️
@@tkgsingsct I agree!
Fantasy sells more... Unfortunately.
Whats more impressive than the monuments themselves is people two thousand years later refuse to believe people made them. That's how you know you where working with artisans not just simple masons.
Show me a precision granite statue carved in the last century. Doh! Not a thing
@@dougcard5241 The statue of David, its marble, a far more fragile stone than granite, and far superior to any Egyptian statue
@@PyroChimp75 I can carve marble with my eyes closed. David only looks perfect. His schlong is way too big.
Thank you for the meaningful information you spread all over this video. Just respect your lecture. Nothing less!
Hey, at least this time it’s the Romans who couldn’t have done something. A fresh new idea I’d say.
Your videos are exactly what I wanted to see in history documentaries. It never ceases to amaze me how many incorrect or outright useless videos are out there, all at the top of the search page, luring in all the itchy ears. They sure go out of their way to create a mystic where science and information have already tread and retread. Thanks for giving us the facts.
This is an excellent and interesting video, but it is rather tragic that people like Foerster make this debunking necessary. I wish people would attain some minimal level of competence before spreading their "wisdom" to the world.
Brien Foerster, Hancock and Randall Carlson in Archeology and HIstory are basically the same type of guy like Frank Dux or George Dillman in Martial Art.
Dux would probably tell you that he built a pyramid.
Holy Shit! The comments on this video?! I’m so sorry so many people cannot appreciate your scientific spirit. I loved your video and am really thankful for the work that went into it!
it's because people refuse to be sheep, atleast most of us. unlike you
Stop making Blabla and work for a Year on building sites. If you done we talk again.
I would love to know how the Egyptians cut those boxes out of the one piece of stone and cut angles to within a thousandth of an inch. Today's technology can't do this. There has been plenty of attempts at recreating thongs like those boxes or even pyramids on a smaller scale and they always fail. Let's face it, a lot of these historians were pist off at gobeklitepi lol, they didn't know what to say..lol.....What was it they ended up saying? Yeah, hunter gatherers did it lol one day...lol
Scientific spirit requires some demonstration of capability. Saying, "It was done with primitive tools and methods" means nothing without at least some demonstration of those methods. "It's silly to think that any advanced civilization existed before ours" is not a scientific approach. Look at Sacsayhuaman and demonstrate a method of making and fitting even the smaller wall stones with that precision with pounding stones and rope.
@@leonardmead1425 omg. Can you even hear yourself?
Angles are measured in degrees, not thousands of inches.
And they didn't hold tolerances to 1000ths of inches.
Just because some doofus on a video told you everything is "precise" doesn't mean that it actually is.
None of that is true.
Furthermore, we most certainly can hold those tolerances today. And not to the thousandth of an inch... But to the 10th of a thousandths of an inch.
You are repeating what some fool said. Try not to be so gullible in the future.
One of the things that really get me. When someone is looking at something made in past. One of the first thing to come out of their mouth, is they did not have the tools or technology to make some thing like this back then. If they did not have the tools and technology to make it, it then it would be around for them to find it. Then there is the Giza Pyramids. They clam we could build them to day. We could could build them, we have the technology. What we don't have is those that would want to build them. The time and cost to do it, is not worth it to them is the truth of it. This is why we do not have people living on the Moon or Mars right now. It's about coast to do it. and no profit to do it. If there was profit to do it. We would have found a way to do it by now.
no ruclips.net/video/O9ZRXC95qMs/видео.html
Exactly. And I think that the way we look at their stone creations is how they would look at microchips and stuff we make. We have no idea how and why they made these things because each society has their priorities. Sorry if that didn’t make any sense lol.
I love these theories. It’s the tv show timeline on Netflix. You know it’s crap, but it’s somewhat entertaining. You have no ideas how many hours I’ve wasted with friends and colleagues watching documentaries like that. In the end, we would try to proof it, but always failed. LOL
Brien: Roman Engineering did not exist.
David: Hold my beer ...
Show me where Foerster said that.
@@dougcard5241 10:05
@@L.Pondera Choose your time and its still baloney. Graham doesn't care what this flea says and I definitely don't look for any facts here.
@@dougcard5241 keep moving the goalpost, you'll get to brain blasting atlanteans one day buddy, once you have proof we'll believe you.
I work at a lab where we research sonar and lidar. One day I talked to my engineers about the megalithic period. They laughed at the word. But when I told them the theory, they said, if you think the ancient world is fun, you should see the stuff we've found underwater. They send submersibles to look for planes, ships, and other lost military what not. Occasionally they find ruins and check to see if its on their map. Not sure who they use, but they've been to Alexandria and had pictures of the underwater stuff that their lidar revealed. Sad that so much got lost to an earthquake. Anyhow, my point was that their team and the other 5 in our lab have discovered so many ancient shipwrecks, ruins, and weird stuff that they had to stop mapping it. Some areas were full of red pins. They both believe that humanity was building things way earlier than academia would believe just from all the old stuff that's sitting around where it shouldn't be.
Very interesting! I expect they have no idea how old these objects are. But I do hope everything is on record.
@@WorldofAntiquity well if they’re underwater you can measure the last time that area was exposed and start from there, but it’s already been done. Mainstream even states that sea levels all over the world rose on average 400 ft 10,000 years ago. That’s enough proof right there🤦🏻🤦🏻 just do more research kid
@@manbearpig710 No, mainstream science does not say that.
@@WorldofAntiquity some of the underwater cities found are almost 100m down.
@@WorldofAntiquity 11,000 years, yes. It was at the end of the younger dryas.
Hmmm, a guy who reads from google, or a man who goes directly to the site and shows us exactly what he’s talking about? Yeah, I’ll listen to him, not you.
I'm getting my information from people who went directly to the sites and who are a lot more than just tourists. They actually did research.
@@WorldofAntiquity you mean like, brien forester?
@@brandonox6927 No, he does the least research of anyone I have ever seen doing videos on these topics.
@@WorldofAntiquity really? Again, you are a random, whose probably never been to any of these sites, and you’re trying to make a video to discredit a man who not only films on location because he goes there himself, but he also slides money to guides to be taken places people normally aren’t allowed, AND has an entire tour where he takes you right to these places so you can see for yourself. You claim there’s no evidence for a lost civilization? Why would there be, other than stone? You realize a comet guy and incinerated everything, don’t you and then about 12,000 years passed. The evidence is actually pretty strong. According to you and your ilk, they didn’t even have the wheel, yet there’s circular saw marks and tube drill holes. A clear contradiction. We do however have Plato telling us of such a civilization. The Bible blames the flood on said civilization. No wheel, but they moved 1,000 ton blocks and put them together better than we can? I mean, these people weren’t far removed from having animal skin genital flaps for an outfit. Yet, without the wheel, built Baalbek/the great pyramid etc.... nope. Your about as qualified to slander this man’s research and character as I am to tell Tom Brady how to be a quarterback.
@@brandonox6927 All of the information I share is straight from the archaeologists who have worked for years on the site, and on all the other sites I mention. They have done far more work than just going and looking around, taking photos, and holding a ruler up to a stone.
When did I say the Romans never had the wheel???
Would there not be evidence on the end of the column if they were shaped on giant lathes?
Secondly, columns are used to withstand compression. I'm wondering what sort of forces would be affecting a long block of stone suspended by its ends on a lathe. I'm not good with physics and would love to know if such a machine even existed, would it be possible to turn a huge column on a lathe.
Thanks for the video.
ps How much do the Illumunati pay for masking the truth.
I feel like it's time for a change in my career. Since THEY control the world, the money must be really good.
(Sorry, after seeing the pinned comment, it had to be asked! lol)
I actually laughed out loud when Brian said those columns were turned on a lathe. People have used lathes for stone work (mostly for art projects and the like). But you'd need such a massive lathe to turn those columns it no sane person would try it.
@@johnsturm9344
I've had time to re think my position on this question, John.
You see the aliens used anti gravity to lift the huge pillars of stone, and place it in a magnetic field to hold steady.
It's basically a tractor beam on the space craft, which is why we've never found a lathe.
The magnetics are arranged such that when poles change rapidly, the stone starts to spin and the aliens laser blaster are set to "masonry".
It all makes so much sense now.
Whatever happened to Occam's Razor? lol
@@pencilpauli9442 Lol! Don't give them new ideas!
I don't think most of these guy's understand what Occam's Razor is.... or basic common sense for that matter.
If it was necessary, and I don't believe that they needed lathes, but there is such a thing as a vertical lathe and that would work at slow spinning speed if there was a live cutter like a modern machine.
It's highly unlikely and unnecessary to use a conventional horizontal lathe.
They could carve in place and grinding with precision curved laps.
@@richtomlinson7090
Right, and I guess the bit was raised and lowered by floating drones?
Maybe a crane?
Maybe with lasers and a UFO?
I'd rather carve the thing with Occam's Razor tbh
A Victorian industrialist build a time machine-barge and delivered the columns to pre-antiquity Phoencia . . obviously.
I've watched this before but enjoyed it again. Thank you.
I'm just guessing here but when he says "Megalithic Age", maybe he's implying the period of time that Stonehenge was constructed, because you know, MYSTERIOUS CONSTRUCTIONS
It is kind of strange that the Roman's could do that awesome granite work but thought the Egyptians obelisk where so amazing they would spend money and risk lives to move them all the way to rome
Spoils of war.
Exactly ,why did the Romans not build these kind of things in Rome? This dude is being is being paid to try and ridicule people who are asking obvious questions wich academie don't want asked.
@@leonardmead1425 bud you completely missed the point
@@carlwheezer1030 what point? that they were spoils of war?
@@leonardmead1425 thank you
I'd love to see the Venn diagram of "Ancient Lost Civilization" believers and the QAnon suckers. I'd bet there's a significant overlap.
Add the Joe Rogan audience
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YOU ARE VERY IGNORANT OF THE PAST AND THE OBVIOUS HIGH-TECH ANCIENT MEGALITHIC STRUCTURES OF OUR PAST.
WHY IS IT THAT THE INCAS IN PERU COULD MAKE THESE AMAZING STONE WALLS (WALLS WHICH WE CAN'T DUPLICATE WITH TODAY'S TECHNOLOGY) AND YET COULD ONLY COBBLE TOGETHER SMALL ROCKS FOR THEIR KINGS?
WHY IS IT THAT NOBODY, NOBODY CAN EXPLAIN HOW THE MEGALITHIC STONE STRUCTURES WERE BUILT.
THE ESTABLISHMENT THINKS THEY WERE WHITTLED AWAY CHIP BY CHIP TO PRODUCVE A SUPER-HUMAN FIT WHERE A HUMAN HAIR CANNOT FIT IN THE JOINTS. STUDY UP ON THIS BEFORE YOU COMMENT.
@@davidhathaway3369 Why are you shouting? LOL. Watch this channel's other videos- he conclusively debunks the "nobody can explain how these were built" trope, while providing credible sources to back up his assertions.
@@jamesboyle7163 SHOW ME PROOF OF A DUPLICATED INCA WALL, NOBODY CAN EXPLAIN HOW THESE STONES WERE FITTED TOGETHER, I WANT TO SEE HIM REPRODUCE THE INCA WALLS, hAHAHahha
@@jamesboyle7163 OK IF IT IS SO OBVIOUS AND NO MYSTERY TO IT THEN WHY IS THERE LITERALLY HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE STUDYING HOW THESE MEGALITHIC SITES WERE BUILT??? WHY IS IT STILL A MYSTERY. IF HE IS SO SMART THEN WHY DOESN'T HE RE-PRODUCE THE INCA WALLS?
The Egyptians were polishing granite blocks and granite statues with curves thousands of years before this. Any good stone mason can tell you how to do it without diamonds or a lathe (which was never a thing in stone work). Sure, the old way takes longer, but it often produces better results. Anyone who tells you some stone work is "so good" it could only be done with machines is nuts.
Yes. Egyptian craftsmen were "salary workers" who were provided their basic needs as their pay. Accordingly they could focus upon their work and perfecting their skills. They benefited by the fact that the Egyptian civilization existed for 3 millennia. Thus whereas other cultures came in the course of a few centuries and went their persisted and as such knowledge could be passed along more easily and technologies improved upon with time.
So "time" was there for them as they were being paid to do the work. Undoubtedly it was difficult - BUT - they likely enjoyed a standard of living above the average Egyptian toiling in the fields. The "alternative" schtick tries to infer what we see was either owing to some mystical "lost" technologies - and/or that the Egyptians were "primitives". What we see however was not a result of some rando working in a mud brick hut somewhere. It rather represents work of castes not unlike modern guilds of craftsmen.
Final thought to illustrate this point. In the west valley of the Valley of the Kings recent excavations have been ongoing looking for lost tombs. Old maps of the valley created long ago depicted what was believed to be an area of a few worker huts. Upon excavation however those few huts turned out to be a much larger area where fragments of precious stones were found indicating = a manufactory. So the Egyptian built a large workshop which could accommodate numerous individuals there where burial items were being fabricated. Not "randos" = organized groups of craftsmen performing a job. Not exactly "primitive" after all. 🤨
@@varyolla435 In ancient Egypt, quality was money, while today only time is money. We think our machines make better quality work, but really they only make the work faster so we end up with sloppy work, and wonder at the ancient's craftmanship.
@@kimwelch4652 Today our economy is built upon = "consumption". Ergo there is no economic value in creating items which can last a long time as you want people to have to replace them. There still exists "niche markets" of course which pander to quality - at a considerable price which few can afford - but most things are simply not made to last.
Ancient Egypt however many things were created as alluded to by individuals who were working based upon what their "patron" wanted to expend to create something. Thus you got what you paid for.
Still - later one one sees items being made for commercial purposes. Here is an example. Egyptologists have unearthed underground caches of mummified animals for burial items and as votive offerings = literally millions of them.
Further there is considerable "disparity of outcome" in quality of what is seen. Some mummified animals reflect high quality mummification with the item being the actual depiction - meaning a mummified cat is actually a cat. Other items however have shown to be "knock-offs" of lower quality with the item not reflecting itself. So a supposed "cat" upon being x-rayed might simply be a bundle of sticks wrapped up in the shape of the cat.
The plausible conclusion is the temples who ran the mummification sites were generating items for both people of means and tourists with you getting what you paid for. Because in their minds a depiction of a cat is still a cat in their afterlife the fact that it is merely a facsimile apparently did not matter.
Excellent. I was slowly starting to get sucked in by the 'Alternate History' mob. I needed a reality check and this was it. I have subscribed and am working my way through your posts. Thank you.
Same, it can be fun to imagine "what if" but I hadn't realised just how persuasive - and even deceptive - many of that crowd are.
At the very least, they engage in heavy cherry picking and "personal incredulity" type reasoning, while discounting anything that doesn't fit with their narrative.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and the evidence just isn't in their favour.
I also find it pretty insulting that people like Brian don't believe ancient groups of people could have built such amazing things. Just because we live different lives today, and have different technology levels, doesn't mean they didn't have artisans, architects and stone workers who spent their lives honing their craft! It's fascinating to learn about the actual history, it blows my mind, I actually prefer it to wild speculation these days as this actually happened! It's phenomenal and so interesting :)
Strange is your reality...
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Since granite is harder and marble is softer, the density is also slightly higher. This does not mean that marble is heavier. Maybe in some cases it is. But the difference is small. the differences are so small that it's not really worth mentioning
The Romans did indeed put them both in the same category of hardness.
Call me gullible but I believed a lot of Briens info a couple of years back, thank you for exposing his misinformation, another great video keep it up mate.
Their role is not primarily to educate people, they are mostly salesmen and sales come first, like Graham Hancock does.
I’m interested in knowing is there another example of Romans building with similar sized megalith stones such as those at Baalbek? I’ve not seen that in any other Roman buildings I can think of. I think quite often with people like Brian foerster an initial anomaly or unexplained idea is often embellished with layers of additional hypotheses that simply aren’t true. Thanks for the great videos it’s interesting to see someone taking the time to explain.
Luke there are no other buildings like these in Rome itself . Why would they not have?, is a question this guy never asked. This guy,I believe is being paid to try and ridicule people who are asking question's that the academic have no reasonable answer to. What about the boxes in Egypt that were built out of the one stone and the angles were within a thousand of an inch? Today's technology cannot do this. They said they could make a Box like it but would have to use 4 separate bits of stone.
Yes, the most famous probably being in the remains of Herod's temple in Jerusalem.
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@@andrewwigglesworth3030 Herod wasn’t Roman though was he?
@@lukerobinson3983 Herod the Great was client King imposed by the Roman Senate after Judea was conquered and annexed to the Roman Empire (strictly, initially to the Roman Republic of course). Herod was very pro-Roman and opposed by a significant portion of the population, many of whom didn't believe he was Jewish.
His building programme used Roman techniques and technology, it was a style of Classical architecture that can be placed firmly in the Roman world.
The Romans couldn't build that far from Rome? He'd be blown away by what they did in Mérida, Spain.
I work on cnc processing of granite and marble ...You have no idea how difficult it is to work even today with such accuracy and dimensions ...I don't know who created Baalbeck but the story is definitely different .If you do not believe it, learn CNC machining yourself and show us how you process such columns and how long it will take you ....Your problem is theory and lack of practice ...
I have other people who work with granite and marble telling me the opposite.
@@WorldofAntiquity Let Them make a short movie for you, block processing for a column (or or something similar ) with similar dimensions ,polished ... tell tThem to say it's for Your channel on the yt :) .... You have no idea how long it takes and what machines you need to process! Cost cutters ! You're lying because you don't know anyone ehhehe . One more ...I am talking about modern times (CNC) but this temple was created a long time ago without modern machines ,primitive tools were used :D ....Do an experiment and build a small version of the temple using the old methods, tools , stone and you can end the speculation how it was done . Baalbek is not a great construction , In India I have seen buildings much more precise and magnificent .I cannot even imagine how people did it ! Even today it is a challenge for modern technology (I have been working on modern cnc machines for 16 years )
@@cyklop1977 You throw your ancient predecessors under the bus so easily. Stand up for your craft!
@@WorldofAntiquity wow what a great argument..
You work with modern equipment in a modern shop under modern assumptions. If you had sufficient time,and didn’t worry about cost, you could do a lot.
Hi, I certainly enjoyed this video,
I always assumed Foerster’s “lectures” were just ads for his travel agency.
That aswan granite was transported by Rome. However they found it already cut into huge 100 ton plus pieces. Pre flood cities. Which they cut to and plundered for their use. Destroying huge monuments and buildings now lost to time.
Source?
@@wfcoaker1398 Rome. Records. Augusta's
@@jeffglenn7609 Who is Augusta? Yeah, your credibility is a tad shaky there, my dude. Lol
@@wfcoaker1398 Augustas
@@wfcoaker1398 ceaser
It'a fascinating having more mental-food to digest into trying to figure out how the megalithic work was done and how the huge stones were moved and put in place with absolute precision. Thank you for an accademic perspective.
Academic perspective? Or complete bullshit.
When you say ‘academic’ you mean lies passed from one fake scientist to another fake scientist.
@@alexverdugo7535 Foerster ends up by concluding that the really large stones and columns were made and moved by:
● ancient beings other than humans
● by aliens with "advanced" tech
● by an ancient race of Giants
● that HE really doesn't know either
So *who* is really spreading all the bullsh*t?
The Romans had cement/concrete. You don't need to move a stone when you can pour it in place
@@lifes40123 GGGGGGGGreat to hear from you. There are so many known unknowns that it's good to know some things. Concrete was used all those millenia ago. But they knew a lot more. This is my research on The Great Pyramid of Giza. 1. It is 3/60th of a single degree of true north
2. It weighs 6 million tons
3. Its footprint is 13 acres
4. It is more than 755.9 feet along each side
5. It is 146.75 meters high
6. It has more than 2.3 million individual blocks of stone
7. It is locked into the Cardinal dimensions of our planet; The dimensions of the Earth are incorporated into its dimensions. 8. If you take the height and multiply it by 43,200 you get the polar radius of the Earth
9. If you measure the base perimeter of the pyramid accurately and multiply that measurement by 43,200 you get the equatorial circumference of the Earth
10. The scale is not random, the number 43,200 is derived from a key motion of the Earth, which is called the precession of the Earth’s axis
11. The Earth wobbles on its axis very slowly at the rate of 1 degree every 72 years; 43,200 is a multiple of 72; 600 X 72
12. So; they’ve given us the dimensions of the planet in The Great Pyramid of Giza on a scale defined by the planet itself
13. There are several 70-ton blocks of stone raised 300 feet above the ground
14. It has eight sides, and at the spring equinox and the autumn equinox one side of the pyramid is in the shade in the morning and again in the late afternoon and can only be seen from the air-as far as my research has shown.
15. It is a calendar
16. It has expansion joints
17. It is located at the exact intersection of the longest line of latitude and the longest line of longitude of the Earth, in other words The Great Pyramid is located at the precise center of the Earth’s land mass.
18. The builders possessed highly sophisticated knowledge of mathematics and geometry
19. The builders had knowledge of the true dimensions of the Earth to extreme precision
20. The builders possessed exceptionally advanced technical instrumentation to site The Great Pyramid
21. Pi = C over D Phi = Divided by 5 + 1 over 2. Archimedes discovered Pi about 250 BC, but Egyptians knew of it 2,250 years earlier
22. The Great Pyramid is 146.75 m high, its height X a million equals the distance from the Earth to the sun
23. If you subtract the inner circle from the outer circle of the circumference of The Great Pyramid, you get the speed of light in meters to four decimal points: 299,792,458 meters per second
24. The weight of The Great Pyramid is 5,273, 000 tons and that multiplied by a billion is the weight of the Earth
25. If you divide the perimeter of The Great Pyramid by ½ its height, the result is 3.14 = Pi
26. The three inner rooms; the king’s chamber, the queen’s chamber and the unfinished chamber under the pyramid are proportional to the distances between Mercury, Venus and the Earth. 27. The distance from The Great Pyramid to the North Pole is the same as the distance from The Great Pyramid to the center of the Earth. 28. The height of The Great Pyramid 146.75 m X 1 million = the distance from the Earth to the sun. 29. The weight of The Great Pyramid 5,273, 000 tons X 1 billion = the weight of the Earth. 30. If you divide the perimeter of the pyramid by 1/2 its height the result is 3.14 pi h/2 = pi These are of course mere coincidences that happen by chance... 31. The base side length is 364.242 which is exactly the time in days it takes for the earth to orbit the sun. 32. The high chamber is built on a double square, which leads us to the gplden ratio geometry 33. Pyramids in China, Mexico and Egypt align with the Orion star system...
It's funny how instead of being awed by feats of the Romans, Forrester goes immediately to his pet cause. This philosophy, when it isn't just racism, is just about underestimating premodern technology and premodern effort. We don't do this kind of thing not because we can't, but because we've found easier ways. Does he dismiss castles? Canals? Aqueducts? Bridges? why can't the same people who built the Pantheon and Colosseum also drag giant columns across the Mediterranean? Medieval peasants built hundreds of Cathedrals and mosques and temples and the Great Wall of China with wooden cranes and ropes. What does he think premodern people were capable of doing? Are wattle and daub houses the limits of his understanding?
He says the granite was taken "up the Nile" instead of down the Nile. lol
With the utmost respect @David:
I value your deductive criticism on Brien’s inductive perspective, but could you please shed some light and offer some insights as to why modern production processes fail to replicate ancient production processes? For example in the transportation of large granite and marble pieces, what was their infrastructure like? What is their estimated capital requirement, workman skill level, and the combined workhours needed to complete the transport? What type of mechanical technology were they dealing with? Why can’t a lathe be possible? Looking at megalithic Egyptians I think they were likely experts in the use of wheels and turning lathes, they probably just trade protected it within military confines.
When you say, "modern production processes fail to replicate ancient production processes," I don't know what you mean. The ancient processes have been replicated. The reason why we reject the lathe idea is not because it isn't possible, but because we have ancient descriptions of the process, and we have examination of the objects, which show how it was done. As for your other questions, these are something only an expert on the subject can answer, and I am not one. I'm sure I could dig and find out, but I don't know off the top of my head.
@@WorldofAntiquity my deepest appreciation and gratitude for the reply; I believe the whole point of contention lays with “The ancient processes have been replicated...we have ancient descriptions of the process, and we have examination of the objects, which show how it was done”, this point of contention is much more than about the marble pillars but relate to all megalithic and rock cut structures from the near east to the far east and Eurasia all the way around south america; and the most troubling is that, scientific engineering communities are split on this issue, one cannot discount the shear number of engineers who believes the ancient ruins are orders of magnitude beyond our present capabilities even with the most advanced technologies available; moreover a disconnect between the ruins and mismatched cultural heritages left behind cannot be accounted; in short, we have difficulty recreating the simplest of the ruins, like symmetrical rock faces or vitrified rock dugouts, then there are the mountain tops, caves and underground chamber structures thereby even more ‘impossible’. With all due respect the burden should be on the archeologists to offer publicly accepted expert opinions on the nuts on bolts which back up the veracity of suspect ancient descriptions, until there’s a general consensus, all idea should be explored with an open mind. I believe a few research papers in applied sciences over the last 2 decades give us a glimpse of how ancients may have mastered biological and biochemical processes that us modern humans are only beginning to try to understand. Again thanks for the opportunity to exchange ideas; look forward to becoming one of your patrons.
@@mcigmcig I have noticed that many independent researchers keep repeating many of the claims you just have. But the fact is, expert opinions have been published, and there is a general consensus too (for each theory). It seems independent researchers are not fully informed. There may be an odd culture here or there where there are still unanswered questions, but each one needs to be judged on an individual basis. You speak of the great number of engineers who disagree, but I don't think there are as many as you think there are.
@@WorldofAntiquity i am curious to know who built the boxes in the Serapeum? And when? And how?
@@krankenstyn I discuss that in my Precision video: ruclips.net/video/RX6Kmo0taVw/видео.html
Ancient Aliens Debunked is a great video, too.
“A lecture that he made. I’m not sure where”😂
This is the problem with mainline science. They will only go as far as the edge of the desk. If you don't reach you don't grow. You stagnant.
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Mr. Foerster only goes to the edge of his nose.
Why Brien Foerster is WRONG about BAALBEK..Because he is Brien Foerster and he is wrong about everything.
He is not wrong about making a good living though! Not that I care. It's great entertainment and he has a nice voice and talking style.
That's not vaguely intellectual.
@ChrisShortyAllen When it comes to Foerester there is no need to bother being intellectual.
But hey, you searched back 2 years to try to have a comment...lol
This is the only way to accurately watch brien. Thank you for making my brain hurt less.
It is kind of sad... Foerster and Hancock... how they ingore the tsunami of evidence against their hypothesis
I just love how certain people are riding around the fact that your channel has less views than Foerster's. I mean, what does this have to do with the actual topic? 😆 One wants to desperately facepalm...
What's even more facepalm is that this guy here makes rookie mistakes such as pretending that iron tools would do anything to granite. Only diamond would work on granite. Rookie mistake and shameful.
It's because the majority of those who even remember who Foerster is when they read his name in the title are those who bought his crap.
@Galadriel Woods false. Iron tools can easily cut granite.
ah this is called the popularity fallacie and pseudos love it
I mean... fair is fair... Brien may get one thing wrong sometimes (supposedly) and yet mainstream archaeologist fans screech that it means he's wrong about everything. Mainstream archaeology was created to control the narrative.
“Nuked from orbit” but I found you prior Baalbek vid utterly compelling and I never had a problem with Iron Age romans working granite and fabulously so at that. I found your note regarding the Greeks not favoring it interesting and look forward to more discussion of copper age cultures working harder materials (granite, andesite, quartzite, basalt, dolerite)
Did the Egyptians, South Americans or Indians have such fancy lifting contraptions? I assume they never woulda started the 1100 ton obelisk in Aswan if they couldn’t have transported and lifted it into place.
I will tackle that subject sometime soon!
The natives in the America's were too busy with psychedelics to care about 1100 ton rocks. 🤭
Look up the " Scientists Against Myths" channel. they have posted many experiments with copper and more primitive stone tools on granite, Inspired by them I filmed and posted many how to videos on cutting, drilling and polishing granite with primtive tools and materials. Tools seen in the archaeological record. Not only is it possible but even in a short time of a couple of hours, or even less depending on the operation. you can do the things the lost high technologists describe as impossible or taking an inconceivably long time.
@@SacredGeometryDecoded love that channel. So simple and yet so informative.
@@SacredGeometryDecoded I’ll check it out! I have been *extremely* disappointed in the mainstream work/experiments I have seen on this topic in the past.
To me this is constructive criticism that needed to happen. It's almost like a evolution vs creation debate. I too was initially somewhat intrigued by this alternate historian so to speak. To be fair he is not without knowledge on history especially regarding Peru sites. I began though to see problems in the claims being made, most notably the repetitive claim that bronze age technology could not possibly have done this stonework in Peru. I was not seeing any demonstrations of metal work failing or that metal work was even part of the process. Nothing!
The correlations only continued as I watched this video. I had then had no doubt that the scientific method is not satisfactory for some people and probably won't be changed.
Thankyou Dr. David Miano!
The fact that things are still “obviously laser smooth and precise” after thousands of years of weathering and wear raises a few red flags towards its validity for me
Ancient people could never have used plumb lines and straight edges! This is obviously the work of lasers.